I tried supplements I tried therapy I I tried supplements I tried therapy I I tried supplements I tried therapy I tried everything I could think of and I tried everything I could think of and I tried everything I could think of and I think I was just in such a such a bad think I was just in such a such a bad think I was just in such a such a bad spot like nothing was helping cold spot like nothing was helping cold spot like nothing was helping cold therapy has been my stabilizer and my therapy has been my stabilizer and my therapy has been my stabilizer and my rock that I know I can kind of lean on rock that I know I can kind of lean on rock that I know I can kind of lean on and depend on when I was nine I was and depend on when I was nine I was and depend on when I was nine I was diagnosed with anxiety OCD and Tourette diagnosed with anxiety OCD and Tourette diagnosed with anxiety OCD and Tourette syndrome and those have been things that syndrome and those have been things that syndrome and those have been things that you know over the years I've I've always you know over the years I've I've always you know over the years I've I've always
that low quality of life they each found that low quality of life they each found cold plunge therapy I've invited them cold plunge therapy I've invited them cold plunge therapy I've invited them here to talk about those low periods and here to talk about those low periods and here to talk about those low periods and thank you for um being willing to share thank you for um being willing to share thank you for um being willing to share it what you did to get yourself out of it what you did to get yourself out of it what you did to get yourself out of there and how you're doing now if you there and how you're doing now if you there and how you're doing now if you wouldn't mind Matt you're on the end wouldn't mind Matt you're on the end wouldn't mind Matt you're on the end would you tell us your story and then would you tell us your story and then would you tell us your story and then we'll work right down sure um we'll work right down sure um we'll work right down sure um so try and simplify it I kind I've so try and simplify it I kind I've so try and simplify it I kind I've always kind of struggled with mental
anti-depressants um and the side effects anti-depressants um and the side effects from the anti-depressants were so bad I from the anti-depressants were so bad I from the anti-depressants were so bad I couldn't stay on them um I tried couldn't stay on them um I tried couldn't stay on them um I tried supplements I tried therapy um I tried supplements I tried therapy um I tried supplements I tried therapy um I tried everything I could think of um and I everything I could think of um and I everything I could think of um and I think I was just in such think I was just in such think I was just in such a such a bad spot like nothing was a such a bad spot like nothing was a such a bad spot like nothing was helping I couldn't I couldn't get my helping I couldn't I couldn't get my helping I couldn't I couldn't get my brain to reset um so then it been about brain to reset um so then it been about brain to reset um so then it been about seven months pretty much I'd have a good seven months pretty much I'd have a good seven months pretty much I'd have a good week here there but most of the time I
relapse like four or five months later relapse like four or five months later but I was able to kind of quickly but I was able to kind of quickly but I was able to kind of quickly correct myself within a week um you know correct myself within a week um you know correct myself within a week um you know it hasn't all been perfect the past five it hasn't all been perfect the past five it hasn't all been perfect the past five years but um this has kind of been cold years but um this has kind of been cold years but um this has kind of been cold therapy has been my stabilizer and my therapy has been my stabilizer and my therapy has been my stabilizer and my rock that I know I can kind of lean on rock that I know I can kind of lean on rock that I know I can kind of lean on and depend on to kind of at least help and depend on to kind of at least help and depend on to kind of at least help me if I'm going through hard times me if I'm going through hard times me if I'm going through hard times manage it and be be able to be manage it and be be able to be manage it and be be able to be functional but for the most part I mean
when we were smaller I got to have a lot when we were smaller I got to have a lot of one-on-one conversations with of one-on-one conversations with of one-on-one conversations with customers who kind of told me about customers who kind of told me about customers who kind of told me about their exp experience similar to mine um their exp experience similar to mine um their exp experience similar to mine um and it we've got to I've got to have and it we've got to I've got to have and it we've got to I've got to have some pretty cool conversations meet a some pretty cool conversations meet a some pretty cool conversations meet a lot of cool people make some good lot of cool people make some good lot of cool people make some good friends um but I mean I have my story on friends um but I mean I have my story on friends um but I mean I have my story on our website I'm not afraid to share it our website I'm not afraid to share it our website I'm not afraid to share it and I think that's one thing people and I think that's one thing people and I think that's one thing people really appreciate is like hey I saw your
early as Matt I started in 21 I moved up early as Matt I started in 21 I moved up to boisey Idaho in 2020 uh right out of to boisey Idaho in 2020 uh right out of to boisey Idaho in 2020 uh right out of grad school and I received a job offer grad school and I received a job offer grad school and I received a job offer up there and you know so moved up there up there and you know so moved up there up there and you know so moved up there didn't really know anybody and um taking didn't really know anybody and um taking didn't really know anybody and um taking a step back a step back a step back I I I was diagnosed really early on with I I I was diagnosed really early on with I I I was diagnosed really early on with all sorts of things I mean when I was all sorts of things I mean when I was all sorts of things I mean when I was nine I was diagnosed with anxiety OCD nine I was diagnosed with anxiety OCD nine I was diagnosed with anxiety OCD and teret syndrome and those have been and teret syndrome and those have been and teret syndrome and those have been things that you know over the years I've
Wim Hoff and we we had this conversation Wim Hoff and we we had this conversation about ice baths and um and so you know about ice baths and um and so you know about ice baths and um and so you know started it started it started it and it very immediately became something and it very immediately became something and it very immediately became something where it was wow in the two three four where it was wow in the two three four where it was wow in the two three four hours hours hours afterwards I feel just a complete afterwards I feel just a complete afterwards I feel just a complete central nervous system reset you know central nervous system reset you know central nervous system reset you know and I feel like I woke up from a really and I feel like I woke up from a really and I feel like I woke up from a really good nap uh and and it was something good nap uh and and it was something good nap uh and and it was something that was it was almost like a feeling
think of and all of the thoughts and the think of and all of the thoughts and the emotions and the things that were too emotions and the things that were too emotions and the things that were too difficult um went away because that difficult um went away because that difficult um went away because that cognitive function would drop right and cognitive function would drop right and cognitive function would drop right and then I could just sit there and I could then I could just sit there and I could then I could just sit there and I could just focus on survival and on breathing just focus on survival and on breathing just focus on survival and on breathing and on anything right in front of me and and on anything right in front of me and and on anything right in front of me and that was it that was the only option um that was it that was the only option um that was it that was the only option um and so then and so then and so then began a process of okay why know if I began a process of okay why know if I began a process of okay why know if I stay in here that long that maybe this
professional possibilities a new idea of professional possibilities a new idea of what your future is going to be like cuz what your future is going to be like cuz what your future is going to be like cuz at some point you said I'm going to post at some point you said I'm going to post at some point you said I'm going to post this on Instagram will you tell us what this on Instagram will you tell us what this on Instagram will you tell us what happened after that yeah so I a year happened after that yeah so I a year happened after that yeah so I a year after I started um the cold after I started um the cold after I started um the cold exposure I I just had some feeling you exposure I I just had some feeling you exposure I I just had some feeling you know I might have just been scrolling know I might have just been scrolling know I might have just been scrolling one day and um and most of the stuff I one day and um and most of the stuff I one day and um and most of the stuff I was seeing at the time this is June 2022 was seeing at the time this is June 2022 was seeing at the time this is June 2022 you know so kind of kind of ear a little
now right where it's I'm I'm interested now right where it's I'm I'm interested in um in discovering more products in in um in discovering more products in in um in discovering more products in the space and and in Sharing more about the space and and in Sharing more about the space and and in Sharing more about it to everybody and because I think it to everybody and because I think it to everybody and because I think that's where a huge value lies for that's where a huge value lies for that's where a huge value lies for people is let me go around and and and people is let me go around and and and people is let me go around and and and really start to experience more units really start to experience more units really start to experience more units more products and and see how I can more products and and see how I can more products and and see how I can share that with people um but yeah the share that with people um but yeah the share that with people um but yeah the there's been some of the brand stuff there's been some of the brand stuff there's been some of the brand stuff that has that has come my way and it's
that um but we're getting there right that um but we're getting there right and it's you know the whole process and and it's you know the whole process and and it's you know the whole process and something I'm sharing now is the process something I'm sharing now is the process something I'm sharing now is the process of coming off of all this medication of coming off of all this medication of coming off of all this medication which has been which has been very which has been which has been very which has been which has been very difficult and has been a challenge and difficult and has been a challenge and difficult and has been a challenge and um that's something that I see cold um that's something that I see cold um that's something that I see cold exposure as a as a very useful tool to exposure as a as a very useful tool to exposure as a as a very useful tool to help people learn how to make these help people learn how to make these help people learn how to make these changes right changes right changes right where you know change and structure and
feel better and it got to a point where feel better and it got to a point where the medication was the last one that I the medication was the last one that I the medication was the last one that I just I needed to change and so um I just I needed to change and so um I just I needed to change and so um I spent January until five weeks ago spent January until five weeks ago spent January until five weeks ago tapering off of the clopin which was tapering off of the clopin which was tapering off of the clopin which was which was hardest time of my life um and which was hardest time of my life um and which was hardest time of my life um and yeah 5 weeks free and clear now and yeah 5 weeks free and clear now and yeah 5 weeks free and clear now and still hard it's still anxiety is still still hard it's still anxiety is still still hard it's still anxiety is still here the lights are still uh you know here the lights are still uh you know here the lights are still uh you know causing my skin to buzz and and all causing my skin to buzz and and all causing my skin to buzz and and all sorts of things but that's not just you
manifest right and so you come off of a manifest right and so you come off of a medication and and your your chest gets medication and and your your chest gets medication and and your your chest gets tight your head starts racing your you tight your head starts racing your you tight your head starts racing your you know your pulses or your heart rate's know your pulses or your heart rate's know your pulses or your heart rate's out of control out of control out of control um um um those those could very well be with those those could very well be with those those could very well be with symptoms of just withdrawing off of symptoms of just withdrawing off of symptoms of just withdrawing off of medication and not relapse symptoms that medication and not relapse symptoms that medication and not relapse symptoms that are proof that you need the medication are proof that you need the medication are proof that you need the medication and I think that's very important for
and to um to contact like a compounding and to um to contact like a compounding pharmacy which is something that most pharmacy which is something that most pharmacy which is something that most people don't even know what it is right people don't even know what it is right people don't even know what it is right you think CVS Walgreens those are youres you think CVS Walgreens those are youres you think CVS Walgreens those are youres to get your medication but there are to get your medication but there are to get your medication but there are compounding pharmacies all over the compounding pharmacies all over the compounding pharmacies all over the place that can custom make doses at much place that can custom make doses at much place that can custom make doses at much much much smaller intervals so that it much much smaller intervals so that it much much smaller intervals so that it is easier for people to come off over is easier for people to come off over is easier for people to come off over time um and that's something yeah it's a time um and that's something yeah it's a time um and that's something yeah it's a little bit specific for pretty helpful
Hof meditating Transcendental Meditation Hof meditating Transcendental Meditation two times a day but I found myself uh two times a day but I found myself uh two times a day but I found myself uh this night on the floor and I'm texting this night on the floor and I'm texting this night on the floor and I'm texting my dad it's like I don't feel like my dad it's like I don't feel like my dad it's like I don't feel like living anymore of course I did that in living anymore of course I did that in living anymore of course I did that in Latin and he says like this is the crazy Latin and he says like this is the crazy Latin and he says like this is the crazy part there's so many coincidences in part there's so many coincidences in part there's so many coincidences in this like pathway is my dad never keeps this like pathway is my dad never keeps this like pathway is my dad never keeps his phone next to his bed just because his phone next to his bed just because his phone next to his bed just because that day he was repairing his bedroom that day he was repairing his bedroom that day he was repairing his bedroom with the mom he had accidentally left
imers my full body so me and my dad we imers my full body so me and my dad we started doing cold swims because we started doing cold swims because we started doing cold swims because we liveed next to the sea but also it gave liveed next to the sea but also it gave liveed next to the sea but also it gave some physical benefits in June but I some physical benefits in June but I some physical benefits in June but I didn't feel like I get that shock and so didn't feel like I get that shock and so didn't feel like I get that shock and so it comes to November I have this it comes to November I have this it comes to November I have this psychiatrist visit I'm completely down psychiatrist visit I'm completely down psychiatrist visit I'm completely down I'm like staring at the ground uh with I'm like staring at the ground uh with I'm like staring at the ground uh with my dad and my psychiatrist say it says my dad and my psychiatrist say it says my dad and my psychiatrist say it says this sentence it's like Edgar is doing this sentence it's like Edgar is doing this sentence it's like Edgar is doing everything perfectly right it's like
die and it feels like very clear to me die and it feels like very clear to me that I need to do that and he's uh so that I need to do that and he's uh so that I need to do that and he's uh so what he proceeds to do is like what no what he proceeds to do is like what no what he proceeds to do is like what no European or like lvan Dad ever does and European or like lvan Dad ever does and European or like lvan Dad ever does and he gives me this warm big hug I think he gives me this warm big hug I think he gives me this warm big hug I think might be the second one in my life might be the second one in my life might be the second one in my life from and that doesn't really like bring from and that doesn't really like bring from and that doesn't really like bring me back to life but it just like you me back to life but it just like you me back to life but it just like you know gave me like few minutes of like know gave me like few minutes of like know gave me like few minutes of like it's like okay maybe now I'm doubting it's like okay maybe now I'm doubting it's like okay maybe now I'm doubting but he says then he said something like
higher then actually showed and the higher then actually showed and the reading was for two minutes and so what reading was for two minutes and so what reading was for two minutes and so what happened is that we spent the whole week happened is that we spent the whole week happened is that we spent the whole week going at this 46 for 2 minutes without going at this 46 for 2 minutes without going at this 46 for 2 minutes without knowing that we're were doing some kind knowing that we're were doing some kind knowing that we're were doing some kind of protocol of our own and a week later of protocol of our own and a week later of protocol of our own and a week later was the first time in my life I felt so was the first time in my life I felt so was the first time in my life I felt so alive again and I even had some like I alive again and I even had some like I alive again and I even had some like I was a very fearful sh like I was like I was a very fearful sh like I was like I was a very fearful sh like I was like I like doing everything by order I like like doing everything by order I like like doing everything by order I like like okay follow a career path but I was
pieace into the space I'm talking to you pieace into the space I'm talking to you uh one year later after all of that put uh one year later after all of that put uh one year later after all of that put so many things that there's actually so many things that there's actually so many things that there's actually scientific like researchers here putting scientific like researchers here putting scientific like researchers here putting that into a scientific perspective that into a scientific perspective that into a scientific perspective finally so I really want to come from finally so I really want to come from finally so I really want to come from the user side and so we're working the user side and so we're working the user side and so we're working working on a ice bath timer connecting working on a ice bath timer connecting working on a ice bath timer connecting the phone help people find their the phone help people find their the phone help people find their protocols like we don't claim to like protocols like we don't claim to like protocols like we don't claim to like cure depression or help others that but
itself it's like uh running back in 70s itself it's like uh running back in 70s 80s people would scream at Runners like 80s people would scream at Runners like 80s people would scream at Runners like running on the street like what are you running on the street like what are you running on the street like what are you doing there it's like with skateboarding doing there it's like with skateboarding doing there it's like with skateboarding it's like why why are you like it's like why why are you like it's like why why are you like destroying public property I think it's destroying public property I think it's destroying public property I think it's same with Cults for me I start I same with Cults for me I start I same with Cults for me I start I been I want to um I mean thank you all been I want to um I mean thank you all been I want to um I mean thank you all for sharing I want to see if I can get for sharing I want to see if I can get for sharing I want to see if I can get out of the way a little bit and allow out of the way a little bit and allow out of the way a little bit and allow you to talk uh with each other uh like
Idaho if you're more adventurous come to Idaho if you're more adventurous come to public it's a wonderful time there every public it's a wonderful time there every public it's a wonderful time there every time but like you said I mean about your time but like you said I mean about your time but like you said I mean about your um your story being intuitive and it um your story being intuitive and it um your story being intuitive and it just just just like making sense for your body I mean like making sense for your body I mean like making sense for your body I mean isn't that isn't that what cold water isn't that isn't that what cold water isn't that isn't that what cold water like isn't that what's happened over I like isn't that what's happened over I like isn't that what's happened over I mean over who who who knows how long or mean over who who who knows how long or mean over who who who knows how long or like thousands of years right all of a like thousands of years right all of a like thousands of years right all of a sudden we're having a conversation here
routine like dayto day because you know routine like dayto day because you know as you as you as you know when you're tapering off the know when you're tapering off the know when you're tapering off the medication it's like every little thing medication it's like every little thing medication it's like every little thing you change it's it becomes hard to tell you change it's it becomes hard to tell you change it's it becomes hard to tell especially something like a Beno dipine especially something like a Beno dipine especially something like a Beno dipine it's like it becomes hard to tell what's it's like it becomes hard to tell what's it's like it becomes hard to tell what's real and and what's what's not real and real and and what's what's not real and real and and what's what's not real and what's what's due to withdrawal and so what's what's due to withdrawal and so what's what's due to withdrawal and so the cold all of a sudden just became one the cold all of a sudden just became one the cold all of a sudden just became one like Pinnacle piece of this routine
near when it comes to the cold exposure near when it comes to the cold exposure stuff you know so I mean how was that stuff you know so I mean how was that stuff you know so I mean how was that like what did you what have you noticed like what did you what have you noticed like what did you what have you noticed that's changed just in the space you that's changed just in the space you that's changed just in the space you know since you know since you know since you started uh man yeah you're right like in started uh man yeah you're right like in started uh man yeah you're right like in 2019 there was not a lot of people doing 2019 there was not a lot of people doing 2019 there was not a lot of people doing this I think you were around like real this I think you were around like real this I think you were around like real right around that time I was scared for right around that time I was scared for right around that time I was scared for my life in 2019 and it wasn't covid I my life in 2019 and it wasn't covid I my life in 2019 and it wasn't covid I thought I was going to die of prostate
the science that would support ice baths the science that would support ice baths I found out how powerful like doing ice I found out how powerful like doing ice I found out how powerful like doing ice baths was and there's no such thing as baths was and there's no such thing as baths was and there's no such thing as an ice bath company we need more an ice bath company we need more an ice bath company we need more reputable honest cold plunge equipment reputable honest cold plunge equipment reputable honest cold plunge equipment provider so that people can who don't provider so that people can who don't provider so that people can who don't live you know in Boise next to the river live you know in Boise next to the river live you know in Boise next to the river so that people can access this even if so that people can access this even if so that people can access this even if they live in they live in they live in Phoenix uh so my my story although I Phoenix uh so my my story although I Phoenix uh so my my story although I relate to travel anxiety uh I relate to
see yeah yeah for sure and I think you see yeah yeah for sure and I think you know the the economics like it's it's know the the economics like it's it's know the the economics like it's it's early it's almost like early early it's almost like early early it's almost like early adoption um so many players in the space adoption um so many players in the space adoption um so many players in the space right trying to compete um and so I right trying to compete um and so I right trying to compete um and so I think in that sense it's really exciting think in that sense it's really exciting think in that sense it's really exciting right now because there's there's all right now because there's there's all right now because there's there's all sorts of people trying to to play but I sorts of people trying to to play but I sorts of people trying to to play but I mean over over time right and that's mean over over time right and that's mean over over time right and that's just kind of how the economics works is just kind of how the economics works is just kind of how the economics works is I mean I
hit two years pretty soon I I think and um you know he's I think he's changed a um you know he's I think he's changed a um you know he's I think he's changed a lot of people's lives with the message lot of people's lives with the message lot of people's lives with the message that he shares on those Daily Posts that he shares on those Daily Posts that he shares on those Daily Posts right um but I think that that's caused right um but I think that that's caused right um but I think that that's caused a lot of these people to come out with a lot of these people to come out with a lot of these people to come out with with their oh they must be supporting with their oh they must be supporting with their oh they must be supporting this this daily this daily cold plunge this this daily this daily cold plunge this this daily this daily cold plunge that's so intense and everyone needs to that's so intense and everyone needs to that's so intense and everyone needs to do it but it it really is about do it but it it really is about do it but it it really is about learning your body and and I think learning your body and and I think
and the practitioners in place we got and the practitioners in place we got Jacob Perkins who's a chiropractor in Jacob Perkins who's a chiropractor in Jacob Perkins who's a chiropractor in Lehi Utah putting his patients in there Lehi Utah putting his patients in there Lehi Utah putting his patients in there and collecting a repository of and collecting a repository of and collecting a repository of experiences so that he can say to new experiences so that he can say to new experiences so that he can say to new patients I think you have these patients I think you have these patients I think you have these indications that might respond well to indications that might respond well to indications that might respond well to cold plunge therapy let's start you out cold plunge therapy let's start you out cold plunge therapy let's start you out like this and then we're going to adapt like this and then we're going to adapt like this and then we're going to adapt a protocall and see whether that works a protocall and see whether that works a protocall and see whether that works for you when when we get more of that