you can interrupt the physiology and the you can interrupt the physiology and the you can interrupt the physiology and the wellness of a system with cold heat wind wellness of a system with cold heat wind wellness of a system with cold heat wind damp and dry and they often have parties damp and dry and they often have parties damp and dry and they often have parties and intermingle with one another there and intermingle with one another there and intermingle with one another there are practitioners out there that are are practitioners out there that are are practitioners out there that are just blanketing and getting on to social just blanketing and getting on to social just blanketing and getting on to social saying do not get in cold this is not saying do not get in cold this is not saying do not get in cold this is not good especially for females I think that good especially for females I think that good especially for females I think that it's just important that in general it's just important that in general it's just important that in general we're assessing our level of Vitality we're assessing our level of Vitality we're assessing our level of Vitality
intentional cold exposure intentional cold exposure yeah yeah it's important there's um I yeah yeah it's important there's um I yeah yeah it's important there's um I know the charge we should say but first know the charge we should say but first know the charge we should say but first let's let's let's talk about that sort let's let's let's talk about that sort let's let's let's talk about that sort of landscape and the reason that we of landscape and the reason that we of landscape and the reason that we decided to have this podcast we want to decided to have this podcast we want to decided to have this podcast we want to dive a little bit deeper and also the dive a little bit deeper and also the dive a little bit deeper and also the fact that you and I as connected as we fact that you and I as connected as we fact that you and I as connected as we are as like-minded as we are in so many are as like-minded as we are in so many are as like-minded as we are in so many ways just that we wanted to give voice ways just that we wanted to give voice ways just that we wanted to give voice to all sides of the conversation around
is one of the causes of is one of the causes of disease you can interrupt the physiology and the can interrupt the physiology and the can interrupt the physiology and the wellness of a system with cold heat wind wellness of a system with cold heat wind wellness of a system with cold heat wind damp and dry and they often have parties damp and dry and they often have parties damp and dry and they often have parties and and and intermingle with one another in our intermingle with one another in our intermingle with one another in our system um you can also system um you can also system um you can also have these so it's Chi if the body you have these so it's Chi if the body you have these so it's Chi if the body you can have it externally imposed on to can have it externally imposed on to can have it externally imposed on to your body or it's something that can be your body or it's something that can be your body or it's something that can be
external cold that could cause disease external cold that could cause disease yeah which is so interesting and just to yeah which is so interesting and just to yeah which is so interesting and just to frame it up a bit for everyone else frame it up a bit for everyone else frame it up a bit for everyone else there's the quote unquote controversy there's the quote unquote controversy there's the quote unquote controversy which I don't even like to use that word which I don't even like to use that word which I don't even like to use that word but the conversation and the discourse but the conversation and the discourse but the conversation and the discourse around traditional Chinese medicine and around traditional Chinese medicine and around traditional Chinese medicine and cold therapy that could be ice bath wild cold therapy that could be ice bath wild cold therapy that could be ice bath wild swimming Cold Water Swimming walking in swimming Cold Water Swimming walking in swimming Cold Water Swimming walking in your booty shorts out in the winter any your booty shorts out in the winter any your booty shorts out in the winter any of it I I you and I have both seen quite
my third menstrual cycle and then ended my third menstrual cycle and then ended up with a Cascade of the next 15 17 up with a Cascade of the next 15 17 up with a Cascade of the next 15 17 years of my life dealing with disys years of my life dealing with disys years of my life dealing with disys manaria delayed Cycles clotting stabbing manaria delayed Cycles clotting stabbing manaria delayed Cycles clotting stabbing pain and then I'm in class in one of our pain and then I'm in class in one of our pain and then I'm in class in one of our uh fundamentals classes where we learn uh fundamentals classes where we learn uh fundamentals classes where we learn all of the theory of Chinese medicine all of the theory of Chinese medicine all of the theory of Chinese medicine and it very eloquently and in artistic and it very eloquently and in artistic and it very eloquently and in artistic language talks about cold entering the language talks about cold entering the language talks about cold entering the womb when the wom is made vacuous womb when the wom is made vacuous womb when the wom is made vacuous meaning we've gone through our menstrual
about that for the womb for a woman who about that for the womb for a woman who wants to plunge around her cycle or even wants to plunge around her cycle or even wants to plunge around her cycle or even on her cycle I was very injured I needed on her cycle I was very injured I needed on her cycle I was very injured I needed to get in the cold plunge to help bounce to get in the cold plunge to help bounce to get in the cold plunge to help bounce out of a spinal sprain I had my out of a spinal sprain I had my out of a spinal sprain I had my menstrual cycle I still went in the ice menstrual cycle I still went in the ice menstrual cycle I still went in the ice bath I just put a heat lamp over my bath I just put a heat lamp over my bath I just put a heat lamp over my uterus and I treated myself with moxa uterus and I treated myself with moxa uterus and I treated myself with moxa and I did not develop cold in the womb and I did not develop cold in the womb and I did not develop cold in the womb symptoms after that so it's symptoms after that so it's symptoms after that so it's understanding the context of the human
thing in Wellness is to jump in a cold thing in Wellness is to jump in a cold plunge and now your patients are saying plunge and now your patients are saying plunge and now your patients are saying to you but I thought cold was bad for me to you but I thought cold was bad for me to you but I thought cold was bad for me like oh wait wait wait which cold do I like oh wait wait wait which cold do I like oh wait wait wait which cold do I want you chugging a bunch of ice water want you chugging a bunch of ice water want you chugging a bunch of ice water when you eat no I don't because I mean when you eat no I don't because I mean when you eat no I don't because I mean from a a biomedicine perspective we look from a a biomedicine perspective we look from a a biomedicine perspective we look at the fact that drinking a bunch of at the fact that drinking a bunch of at the fact that drinking a bunch of fluids dilutes your hydrochloric acid in fluids dilutes your hydrochloric acid in fluids dilutes your hydrochloric acid in Chinese medicine you're literally Chinese medicine you're literally Chinese medicine you're literally putting out your digestive fire when you
some of athletes too like swimmers right some of athletes too like swimmers right in the triathlon circuit it's like in the triathlon circuit it's like in the triathlon circuit it's like they're working in that degree range they're working in that degree range they're working in that degree range because they want to be in a cold ocean because they want to be in a cold ocean because they want to be in a cold ocean and what they don't want to have happen and what they don't want to have happen and what they don't want to have happen is mamillion dive reflex and their heart is mamillion dive reflex and their heart is mamillion dive reflex and their heart rates close because they are racing and rates close because they are racing and rates close because they are racing and so that's what they're training for as so that's what they're training for as so that's what they're training for as well right which is such a different uh well right which is such a different uh well right which is such a different uh external layer or an additional layer of external layer or an additional layer of external layer or an additional layer of context onto the mix so so I think you
pores open wide like a pores open wide like a vacuum right all that sweat pours vacuum right all that sweat pours vacuum right all that sweat pours out all the young pours out with it and out all the young pours out with it and out all the young pours out with it and now I have a cold wind blowing on my now I have a cold wind blowing on my now I have a cold wind blowing on my face and it's actually the classic face and it's actually the classic face and it's actually the classic presentation of Belle's policy that presentation of Belle's policy that presentation of Belle's policy that somebody had a window open and they had somebody had a window open and they had somebody had a window open and they had cold winter air blowing on their face in cold winter air blowing on their face in cold winter air blowing on their face in the car or AC blowing on them or they'll the car or AC blowing on them or they'll the car or AC blowing on them or they'll complain of contracted shoulder because complain of contracted shoulder because complain of contracted shoulder because they were in a hotel tell and they
they get a great flesh of blood and then they get a great flesh of blood and then when you hop out it's like it's almost when you hop out it's like it's almost when you hop out it's like it's almost like I feel the heat of my body wafting like I feel the heat of my body wafting like I feel the heat of my body wafting or pushing the cold out and you end up or pushing the cold out and you end up or pushing the cold out and you end up with better circulation and better with better circulation and better with better circulation and better ability to warm your extremities and so ability to warm your extremities and so ability to warm your extremities and so because it is applied systemically I am because it is applied systemically I am because it is applied systemically I am having a whole system effect and then if having a whole system effect and then if having a whole system effect and then if I get that delicious shiver response at I get that delicious shiver response at I get that delicious shiver response at five minutes my metabolism is activated five minutes my metabolism is activated five minutes my metabolism is activated and I am breaking bonds to feed my
going to escape me but um I either it's going to escape me but um I either it's like I got a refer to Google um but yeah like I got a refer to Google um but yeah like I got a refer to Google um but yeah the the gentleman who came up with that the the gentleman who came up with that the the gentleman who came up with that theory right we at some point came out theory right we at some point came out theory right we at some point came out and said targeted ice spot treating ice and said targeted ice spot treating ice and said targeted ice spot treating ice is actually not the thing to do and so is actually not the thing to do and so is actually not the thing to do and so you know how do we shift that you know how do we shift that you know how do we shift that into reality like how do we sports teams into reality like how do we sports teams into reality like how do we sports teams are no longer doing that and and yes are no longer doing that and and yes are no longer doing that and and yes there are times when people will spot there are times when people will spot there are times when people will spot treat with ice and those times seem to
dive for people who are interested in dive for people who are interested in that and sports performance etc etc so that and sports performance etc etc so that and sports performance etc etc so sorry to interrupt but yes we got it we sorry to interrupt but yes we got it we sorry to interrupt but yes we got it we got it thank you thank you that was got it thank you thank you that was got it thank you thank you that was going to drive me nuts until the end of going to drive me nuts until the end of going to drive me nuts until the end of our conversation so patients and clients our conversation so patients and clients our conversation so patients and clients with depression and anxiety there is with depression and anxiety there is with depression and anxiety there is this beautiful sweetness that happens this beautiful sweetness that happens this beautiful sweetness that happens with especially being guided through the with especially being guided through the with especially being guided through the challenge challenge challenge of finding peace in a very uncomfortable
of that that emotional resilience of that that emotional resilience component I can help people Zen out all component I can help people Zen out all component I can help people Zen out all day long acupuncture treatments reset day long acupuncture treatments reset day long acupuncture treatments reset the nervous system downregulate the nervous system downregulate the nervous system downregulate sympathetic Drive uh help people get out sympathetic Drive uh help people get out sympathetic Drive uh help people get out of fatigue or um like on we or that what of fatigue or um like on we or that what of fatigue or um like on we or that what you might all almost look at as being you might all almost look at as being you might all almost look at as being like overly parasympathetic State you like overly parasympathetic State you like overly parasympathetic State you can balance people's nervous systems but can balance people's nervous systems but can balance people's nervous systems but that means that you are as a that means that you are as a that means that you are as a practitioner always showing up to do
everything yeah that one and minim it's everything yeah that one and minim it's a minimum effective dose thing and I a minimum effective dose thing and I a minimum effective dose thing and I also think it's it's the other piece of also think it's it's the other piece of also think it's it's the other piece of the conversation to have here with the conversation to have here with the conversation to have here with anyone who's listening about who's who anyone who's listening about who's who anyone who's listening about who's who either hasn't done cold is thinking either hasn't done cold is thinking either hasn't done cold is thinking about cold you know cold showers we about cold you know cold showers we about cold you know cold showers we always talk about as an okay start always talk about as an okay start always talk about as an okay start cryotherapy okay maybe those things are cryotherapy okay maybe those things are cryotherapy okay maybe those things are the way you start but that it's the way you start but that it's the way you start but that it's absolutely feasible for someone if they
so nervous to get in and so there's that so nervous to get in and so there's that other thing to navigate that I think other thing to navigate that I think other thing to navigate that I think sometimes clients in the health world sometimes clients in the health world sometimes clients in the health world show up to you and I and someone will show up to you and I and someone will show up to you and I and someone will say I just had this intuitive hit Carrie say I just had this intuitive hit Carrie say I just had this intuitive hit Carrie that I I needed to eat like the whole that I I needed to eat like the whole that I I needed to eat like the whole pizza and a pint of ice cream I just it pizza and a pint of ice cream I just it pizza and a pint of ice cream I just it was like a hell yes for me and it's like was like a hell yes for me and it's like was like a hell yes for me and it's like sort of okay I get it I get that it sort of okay I get it I get that it sort of okay I get it I get that it could be and at some points maybe you're could be and at some points maybe you're could be and at some points maybe you're celebrating with old College friends who
continue to share with people to make continue to share with people to make these decisions you know these decisions you know these decisions you know effectively and also Absolut is thinking effectively and also Absolut is thinking effectively and also Absolut is thinking I just want to say this at some point I just want to say this at some point I just want to say this at some point Dan Garner said to me you know if anyone Dan Garner said to me you know if anyone Dan Garner said to me you know if anyone comes to you with absolutist thinking comes to you with absolutist thinking comes to you with absolutist thinking stop working with them ditch the dogma stop working with them ditch the dogma stop working with them ditch the dogma and the polarization I and so for me I and the polarization I and so for me I and the polarization I and so for me I look at it I'm like wow if somebody if look at it I'm like wow if somebody if look at it I'm like wow if somebody if something is triggering you so hard that something is triggering you so hard that something is triggering you so hard that is some place like if you feel
living and thriving in nature and all of living and thriving in nature and all of the biorhythms of nature we wear filter the biorhythms of nature we wear filter the biorhythms of nature we wear filter glasses to make sure that we are not glasses to make sure that we are not glasses to make sure that we are not changing our bio rhythm because of the changing our bio rhythm because of the changing our bio rhythm because of the artificiality of light if we go into a artificiality of light if we go into a artificiality of light if we go into a sauna we are giving our body the sauna we are giving our body the sauna we are giving our body the stressor of a high hot summer and the stressor of a high hot summer and the stressor of a high hot summer and the adaptations and resilience that comes adaptations and resilience that comes adaptations and resilience that comes from being in the stressor of a high hot from being in the stressor of a high hot from being in the stressor of a high hot summer when we go into an ice bath we summer when we go into an ice bath we summer when we go into an ice bath we are reminding ourselves that we were
we did and so it's a very beautiful we did and so it's a very beautiful point to make around this this space and point to make around this this space and point to make around this this space and this place too there are breaths that this place too there are breaths that this place too there are breaths that are used to be able to warm yourself up are used to be able to warm yourself up are used to be able to warm yourself up you and I my journey to Lassa is my book you and I my journey to Lassa is my book you and I my journey to Lassa is my book recommendation for all it's the story of recommendation for all it's the story of recommendation for all it's the story of how ancient breath practices that taught how ancient breath practices that taught how ancient breath practices that taught your body how to warm up and melt the your body how to warm up and melt the your body how to warm up and melt the snow around you were brought into the snow around you were brought into the snow around you were brought into the modern world by a British opera singer I modern world by a British opera singer I modern world by a British opera singer I just got it I just got it I read like
medicine and it is the poison is in the medicine and it is the poison is in the dose and the style and whether you're dose and the style and whether you're dose and the style and whether you're drinking it or you're swimming in drinking it or you're swimming in drinking it or you're swimming in something for a long period of time but something for a long period of time but something for a long period of time but we are not blanketing the statement that we are not blanketing the statement that we are not blanketing the statement that TCM is very anti-cold plunging because TCM is very anti-cold plunging because TCM is very anti-cold plunging because there are many people who are still there are many people who are still there are many people who are still doing this yes I'm one of them and doing this yes I'm one of them and doing this yes I'm one of them and you're one of them yes amazing and that you're one of them yes amazing and that you're one of them yes amazing and that that there is a a an intuition and a that there is a a an intuition and a that there is a a an intuition and a time of the month for women that
uh that is used to um often used to uh that is used to um often used to treat uh menstrual conditions Aya um treat uh menstrual conditions Aya um treat uh menstrual conditions Aya um moxa is mug wart and it has a couple moxa is mug wart and it has a couple moxa is mug wart and it has a couple different forms um it can be loose uh different forms um it can be loose uh different forms um it can be loose uh looking like a loose herb and we'll use looking like a loose herb and we'll use looking like a loose herb and we'll use it and burn it um on the needles or it and burn it um on the needles or it and burn it um on the needles or there's scarring moxa where we actually there's scarring moxa where we actually there's scarring moxa where we actually purposely create little burns on the purposely create little burns on the purposely create little burns on the skin uh to create a stronger immune skin uh to create a stronger immune skin uh to create a stronger immune response at that point the most common response at that point the most common response at that point the most common type I do because I travel to my
together got back the feeling in her together got back the feeling in her feet after three or four treatments so feet after three or four treatments so feet after three or four treatments so it's a very powerful treatment on its it's a very powerful treatment on its it's a very powerful treatment on its own it's own it's own it's also what I use also what I use also what I use for warming myself up or like treating for warming myself up or like treating for warming myself up or like treating my digestion when I don't feel like my digestion when I don't feel like my digestion when I don't feel like giving myself a complete acupuncture giving myself a complete acupuncture giving myself a complete acupuncture treatment moxa is something that you can treatment moxa is something that you can treatment moxa is something that you can use on yourself at home however I highly use on yourself at home however I highly use on yourself at home however I highly encourage you to ask your acupuncturist
the the big Elation that happens after the the big Elation that happens after Paris sympathetic gound people are Paris sympathetic gound people are Paris sympathetic gound people are excited you know there's so much so much excited you know there's so much so much excited you know there's so much so much joy it doesn't have to feel so technical joy it doesn't have to feel so technical joy it doesn't have to feel so technical I mean I always like to remind people I mean I always like to remind people I mean I always like to remind people it's like fine to play in the cold and it's like fine to play in the cold and it's like fine to play in the cold and use these tools in so many different use these tools in so many different use these tools in so many different ways and do it in community of course ways and do it in community of course ways and do it in community of course and at the end of the day it starts to and at the end of the day it starts to and at the end of the day it starts to be like hey how can we do it's both and be like hey how can we do it's both and be like hey how can we do it's both and like just like big reincorporation from
cold new website launching soon Carrie cold new website launching soon Carrie bacon Wellness you can find me uh k- bacon Wellness you can find me uh k- bacon Wellness you can find me uh k- bacon on Instagram and then I've just bacon on Instagram and then I've just bacon on Instagram and then I've just launched the Caribbean cold club uh page launched the Caribbean cold club uh page launched the Caribbean cold club uh page on Instagram for all things breath cold on Instagram for all things breath cold on Instagram for all things breath cold collaboration down here in sunny Puerto collaboration down here in sunny Puerto collaboration down here in sunny Puerto Rico oh I love it I love it thank you so Rico oh I love it I love it thank you so Rico oh I love it I love it thank you so much for sharing your time and your much for sharing your time and your much for sharing your time and your knowledge it's always a pleasure we have knowledge it's always a pleasure we have knowledge it's always a pleasure we have had the the beautiful opportunity to had the the beautiful opportunity to had the the beautiful opportunity to have a couple conversations on this and