Put your Hashimoto s into remission with Cold Exposure
00:00what if there was one tool that maybe what if there was one tool that maybe you haven't heard of or haven't tried you haven't heard of or haven't tried you haven't heard of or haven't tried yet to help reduce your Hashi symptoms yet to help reduce your Hashi symptoms yet to help reduce your Hashi symptoms and possibly even put your Hashimoto's and possibly even put your Hashimoto's and possibly even put your Hashimoto's into remission today on thyroid strong into remission today on thyroid strong into remission today on thyroid strong podcast I have on Adrian jezik she began podcast I have on Adrian jezik she began podcast I have on Adrian jezik she began her practice of deliberate cold exposure her practice of deliberate cold exposure her practice of deliberate cold exposure for healing in October 2017. in 2013 she for healing in October 2017. in 2013 she for healing in October 2017. in 2013 she was diagnosed with three that's right was diagnosed with three that's right was diagnosed with three that's right ladies three autoimmune conditions ladies three autoimmune conditions ladies three autoimmune conditions that is when she began her Quest For that is when she began her Quest For that is when she began her Quest For Greater health and just feeling like Greater health and just feeling like Greater health and just feeling like herself again herself again herself again she developed a regular deliberate cold she developed a regular deliberate cold she developed a regular deliberate cold exposure regimen and she reversed all exposure regimen and she reversed all exposure regimen and she reversed all traces of her autoimmune conditions and traces of her autoimmune conditions and traces of her autoimmune conditions and now guides others to do the same now guides others to do the same now guides others to do the same she created the Morosco method a sensory she created the Morosco method a sensory she created the Morosco method a sensory immersion meditation technique for immersion meditation technique for immersion meditation technique for deliberate cold exposure and host deliberate cold exposure and host deliberate cold exposure and host workshops to certified other guides and workshops to certified other guides and workshops to certified other guides and she is the co-owner and co-founder of
01:00she is the co-owner and co-founder of she is the co-owner and co-founder of the Morosco Forge the world's first ice the Morosco Forge the world's first ice the Morosco Forge the world's first ice bath she's also the creator of the bath she's also the creator of the bath she's also the creator of the Morosco method podcast she shares her Morosco method podcast she shares her Morosco method podcast she shares her story in how she gave up her medication story in how she gave up her medication story in how she gave up her medication her supplements her vitamins and uses her supplements her vitamins and uses her supplements her vitamins and uses cold exposure to help reverse all the cold exposure to help reverse all the cold exposure to help reverse all the symptoms of her three autoimmune symptoms of her three autoimmune symptoms of her three autoimmune conditions listen in ladies this is a conditions listen in ladies this is a conditions listen in ladies this is a good one Adrian jezek welcome to thyroid good one Adrian jezek welcome to thyroid good one Adrian jezek welcome to thyroid strong podcast I'm super excited to have strong podcast I'm super excited to have strong podcast I'm super excited to have you here to talk about a very you here to talk about a very you here to talk about a very Hot Topic but maybe not a lot of women Hot Topic but maybe not a lot of women Hot Topic but maybe not a lot of women with autoimmune conditions know about with autoimmune conditions know about with autoimmune conditions know about this Hot Topic so welcome to that this Hot Topic so welcome to that this Hot Topic so welcome to that restaurant podcast restaurant podcast restaurant podcast thank you for having me Emily I'm very thank you for having me Emily I'm very thank you for having me Emily I'm very happy to be here yeah so you were happy to be here yeah so you were happy to be here yeah so you were diagnosed with three autoimmune diagnosed with three autoimmune diagnosed with three autoimmune conditions at one point in your life conditions at one point in your life conditions at one point in your life yeah yeah can you share with what they yeah yeah can you share with what they yeah yeah can you share with what they were so at about 32 years old I got were so at about 32 years old I got were so at about 32 years old I got really sick I'm 42 now I'll give you the really sick I'm 42 now I'll give you the really sick I'm 42 now I'll give you the timeline 32 years old I got really sick timeline 32 years old I got really sick timeline 32 years old I got really sick and the first diagnosis I received was
02:00and the first diagnosis I received was and the first diagnosis I received was Hashimoto's thyroiditis Hashimoto's thyroiditis Hashimoto's thyroiditis from there I was put on medications from there I was put on medications from there I was put on medications medications came with side effects I medications came with side effects I medications came with side effects I experienced a lot of gastric distress experienced a lot of gastric distress experienced a lot of gastric distress and continued to see Specialists for and continued to see Specialists for and continued to see Specialists for this and as a result within that first this and as a result within that first this and as a result within that first year of getting diagnosed I was also year of getting diagnosed I was also year of getting diagnosed I was also diagnosed with eosinabilic esophagitis diagnosed with eosinabilic esophagitis diagnosed with eosinabilic esophagitis which is where hives present in the which is where hives present in the which is where hives present in the esophagus to things you're allergic to esophagus to things you're allergic to esophagus to things you're allergic to whether that's environmental or food or whether that's environmental or food or whether that's environmental or food or whatever that looks like and it causes a whatever that looks like and it causes a whatever that looks like and it causes a lot of gastric distress in addition I lot of gastric distress in addition I lot of gastric distress in addition I was also diagnosed with urticaria and was also diagnosed with urticaria and was also diagnosed with urticaria and that's where the outside of my body was that's where the outside of my body was that's where the outside of my body was basically turning into a hive for basically turning into a hive for basically turning into a hive for anything that I was experiencing the anything that I was experiencing the anything that I was experiencing the allergic reaction to so three diagnoses allergic reaction to so three diagnoses allergic reaction to so three diagnoses all within the first like one to two all within the first like one to two all within the first like one to two years and no matter not many medications years and no matter not many medications years and no matter not many medications I was put on or what I tried to do I was put on or what I tried to do I was put on or what I tried to do natural or unnatural or whatever it was natural or unnatural or whatever it was natural or unnatural or whatever it was I did not receive relief I did not receive relief I did not receive relief interesting so it's not like you're
03:00interesting so it's not like you're interesting so it's not like you're having like a internal and external having like a internal and external having like a internal and external histamine response histamine response histamine response like an objective immune system yes and like an objective immune system yes and like an objective immune system yes and it was like that it was like all of a it was like that it was like all of a it was like that it was like all of a sudden my body perceived anything as a sudden my body perceived anything as a sudden my body perceived anything as a threat my body was just under the threat my body was just under the threat my body was just under the impression that it was under constant impression that it was under constant impression that it was under constant attack and this doesn't really surprise attack and this doesn't really surprise attack and this doesn't really surprise me you know I've got a lot of theories me you know I've got a lot of theories me you know I've got a lot of theories about why we get sick and all our about why we get sick and all our about why we get sick and all our theories about what led to my illness theories about what led to my illness theories about what led to my illness and I've been living my entire life up and I've been living my entire life up and I've been living my entire life up to that point in a state of fight or to that point in a state of fight or to that point in a state of fight or flight so think about it if I'm in this flight so think about it if I'm in this flight so think about it if I'm in this elevated State constantly just elevated State constantly just elevated State constantly just constantly feeling like I have to be on constantly feeling like I have to be on constantly feeling like I have to be on the defensive and everything and the defensive and everything and the defensive and everything and everyone is out to get me and I'm of everyone is out to get me and I'm of everyone is out to get me and I'm of this victim mindset well then yeah I'm this victim mindset well then yeah I'm this victim mindset well then yeah I'm training my body to respond to any training my body to respond to any training my body to respond to any outside influence as an offender yeah outside influence as an offender yeah outside influence as an offender yeah what what led to that feeling of what what led to that feeling of what what led to that feeling of constantly being attacked constantly being attacked constantly being attacked oh my gosh childhood trauma uh you know oh my gosh childhood trauma uh you know oh my gosh childhood trauma uh you know we I grew up very poor uh my father
04:00we I grew up very poor uh my father we I grew up very poor uh my father raised me did the best he could but he raised me did the best he could but he raised me did the best he could but he was undiagnosed bipolar schizophrenic was undiagnosed bipolar schizophrenic was undiagnosed bipolar schizophrenic till his mid-40s and so a lot of my till his mid-40s and so a lot of my till his mid-40s and so a lot of my coping mechanisms mimic that of a coping mechanisms mimic that of a coping mechanisms mimic that of a bipolar schizophrenic and I think that I bipolar schizophrenic and I think that I bipolar schizophrenic and I think that I just didn't know how to cope or deal just didn't know how to cope or deal just didn't know how to cope or deal with stress or outside influence I mean with stress or outside influence I mean with stress or outside influence I mean I just very much felt you know from this I just very much felt you know from this I just very much felt you know from this time of a small child like the world was time of a small child like the world was time of a small child like the world was out to get me it was it was completely out to get me it was it was completely out to get me it was it was completely that victim mindset obviously you didn't that victim mindset obviously you didn't that victim mindset obviously you didn't stand that victim mindset right no but stand that victim mindset right no but stand that victim mindset right no but no not the gold came in yeah a lot of no not the gold came in yeah a lot of no not the gold came in yeah a lot of people when they are diagnosed with an people when they are diagnosed with an people when they are diagnosed with an autoimmune condition they're doing the autoimmune condition they're doing the autoimmune condition they're doing the medication they're doing supplement medication they're doing supplement medication they're doing supplement protocols they're trying to kind of get protocols they're trying to kind of get protocols they're trying to kind of get to root causes different triggers to root causes different triggers to root causes different triggers and it sounds like you did all that and it sounds like you did all that and it sounds like you did all that yeah I mean it definitely didn't start yeah I mean it definitely didn't start yeah I mean it definitely didn't start there you know it started with me there you know it started with me there you know it started with me believing that everything I was being believing that everything I was being believing that everything I was being told about my body was true told about my body was true told about my body was true believing that there was nothing I did believing that there was nothing I did believing that there was nothing I did to get this illness and there was
05:00to get this illness and there was to get this illness and there was nothing I was going to do to get rid of nothing I was going to do to get rid of nothing I was going to do to get rid of it it it and believing everything that the and believing everything that the and believing everything that the doctors were telling me like I needed doctors were telling me like I needed doctors were telling me like I needed these medications in order to live and these medications in order to live and these medications in order to live and survive and that this was just my lot in survive and that this was just my lot in survive and that this was just my lot in life and at the height of it I was life and at the height of it I was life and at the height of it I was taking almost 20 vitamins supplements taking almost 20 vitamins supplements taking almost 20 vitamins supplements and prescription medication pills per and prescription medication pills per and prescription medication pills per day I was also getting two live antibody day I was also getting two live antibody day I was also getting two live antibody shots for my allergists each month and I shots for my allergists each month and I shots for my allergists each month and I wasn't feeling symptom relief so here I wasn't feeling symptom relief so here I wasn't feeling symptom relief so here I am 50 pounds overweight am 50 pounds overweight am 50 pounds overweight constantly in gastric distress not constantly in gastric distress not constantly in gastric distress not receiving any relief of symptoms from receiving any relief of symptoms from receiving any relief of symptoms from any of the medications or supplements any of the medications or supplements any of the medications or supplements that I was on and I had to pare it down that I was on and I had to pare it down that I was on and I had to pare it down I had to say like what responsibility do I had to say like what responsibility do I had to say like what responsibility do I have in this what control do I have in I have in this what control do I have in I have in this what control do I have in this so I was reading everything this so I was reading everything this so I was reading everything one book that completely changed my life one book that completely changed my life one book that completely changed my life was the walls protocol by Dr Terry walls was the walls protocol by Dr Terry walls was the walls protocol by Dr Terry walls yeah he developed that low inflammation yeah he developed that low inflammation yeah he developed that low inflammation food regimen for people with multiple food regimen for people with multiple food regimen for people with multiple sclerosis but I thought if if my body's
06:00sclerosis but I thought if if my body's sclerosis but I thought if if my body's in this constant state of feeling under in this constant state of feeling under in this constant state of feeling under attack and in this constant histamine attack and in this constant histamine attack and in this constant histamine reaction then I'm also dealing with reaction then I'm also dealing with reaction then I'm also dealing with inflammation so if I can eat a low inflammation so if I can eat a low inflammation so if I can eat a low inflammation food regimen helping with inflammation food regimen helping with inflammation food regimen helping with that gastric distress and that that gastric distress and that that gastric distress and that inflammation that's a start inflammation that's a start inflammation that's a start and so I did that a couple of years and so I did that a couple of years and so I did that a couple of years before I discovered deliberate cold before I discovered deliberate cold before I discovered deliberate cold exposure as a healing practice exposure as a healing practice exposure as a healing practice but I love it the way that I eat and I but I love it the way that I eat and I but I love it the way that I eat and I didn't lose any weight and there weren't didn't lose any weight and there weren't didn't lose any weight and there weren't any major changes in my life any major changes in my life any major changes in my life um I had a little bit more energy um I had a little bit more energy um I had a little bit more energy um I would say that was the biggest uh um I would say that was the biggest uh um I would say that was the biggest uh in changing my eating habits it was a in changing my eating habits it was a in changing my eating habits it was a little more energy but it didn't really little more energy but it didn't really little more energy but it didn't really change didn't move the needle and my change didn't move the needle and my change didn't move the needle and my illness it didn't actually make any you illness it didn't actually make any you illness it didn't actually make any you know deep independent or lasting change know deep independent or lasting change know deep independent or lasting change in my body yeah in my body yeah in my body yeah um it was in November of 2017 so I'd um it was in November of 2017 so I'd um it was in November of 2017 so I'd been still reading still reading you been still reading still reading you been still reading still reading you know non-fiction and fiction books alike know non-fiction and fiction books alike know non-fiction and fiction books alike Aubry Marcus's own the day was a big Aubry Marcus's own the day was a big Aubry Marcus's own the day was a big Catalyst for me he talks about
07:00Catalyst for me he talks about Catalyst for me he talks about deliberate cold exposure Naseem talab deliberate cold exposure Naseem talab deliberate cold exposure Naseem talab anti-fragile same thing talks about the anti-fragile same thing talks about the anti-fragile same thing talks about the discomfort but the growth from discomfort but the growth from discomfort but the growth from deliberate cold exposure and Ernest deliberate cold exposure and Ernest deliberate cold exposure and Ernest Hemingway would talk about Hemingway would talk about Hemingway would talk about um I read a biography or an um I read a biography or an um I read a biography or an autobiography I think it was a biography autobiography I think it was a biography autobiography I think it was a biography about Ernest Hemingway and when he was a about Ernest Hemingway and when he was a about Ernest Hemingway and when he was a writer in Paris writer in Paris writer in Paris he was poor he was really poor and there he was poor he was really poor and there he was poor he was really poor and there were days that he would intentionally were days that he would intentionally were days that he would intentionally not light the coals in his flat because not light the coals in his flat because not light the coals in his flat because he knew if it was a little bit cold he he knew if it was a little bit cold he he knew if it was a little bit cold he would be more focused and write better would be more focused and write better would be more focused and write better and so it was really important for him and so it was really important for him and so it was really important for him to recognize that temperature difference to recognize that temperature difference to recognize that temperature difference and how it affected him and how it affected him and how it affected him he would also do extended fasting not he would also do extended fasting not he would also do extended fasting not necessarily on purpose but because he necessarily on purpose but because he necessarily on purpose but because he believed it was better to eat one good believed it was better to eat one good believed it was better to eat one good quality restaurant meal every two to quality restaurant meal every two to quality restaurant meal every two to three days then just live on beans for three days then just live on beans for three days then just live on beans for three solid days three solid days three solid days so he said I'd rather get one really so he said I'd rather get one really so he said I'd rather get one really good quality meal than just feed my body good quality meal than just feed my body good quality meal than just feed my body these little bits of things that are not
08:00these little bits of things that are not these little bits of things that are not ever going to do anything for it and I ever going to do anything for it and I ever going to do anything for it and I thought that that was really fascinating thought that that was really fascinating thought that that was really fascinating too that he just kind of he also noticed too that he just kind of he also noticed too that he just kind of he also noticed that on that day two or that day three that on that day two or that day three that on that day two or that day three at best he was more focused he wrote at best he was more focused he wrote at best he was more focused he wrote better he was less easy to interrupt and better he was less easy to interrupt and better he was less easy to interrupt and he had better quality work as a result he had better quality work as a result he had better quality work as a result of it so it was reading these fiction of it so it was reading these fiction of it so it was reading these fiction books and these non-fiction books and oh books and these non-fiction books and oh books and these non-fiction books and oh well people were treating their bodies well people were treating their bodies well people were treating their bodies in these extremes how people were in these extremes how people were in these extremes how people were treating their treating their treating their um how they were introducing these out um how they were introducing these out um how they were introducing these out external circumstances to create more external circumstances to create more external circumstances to create more physical mental and emotional resilience physical mental and emotional resilience physical mental and emotional resilience and so that's what got me you know and and so that's what got me you know and and so that's what got me you know and it still wasn't right away I still it still wasn't right away I still it still wasn't right away I still wasn't like oh yeah definitely I want to wasn't like oh yeah definitely I want to wasn't like oh yeah definitely I want to try the coal no try the coal no try the coal no I'm with Florida girl I lived in Hawaii I'm with Florida girl I lived in Hawaii I'm with Florida girl I lived in Hawaii Phoenix Summers 20 years still my Phoenix Summers 20 years still my Phoenix Summers 20 years still my favorite time of year is summertime in favorite time of year is summertime in favorite time of year is summertime in Phoenix I don't care in 15 degrees it Phoenix I don't care in 15 degrees it Phoenix I don't care in 15 degrees it feels like a warm hug and I love it so
09:00feels like a warm hug and I love it so feels like a warm hug and I love it so I'm still even five years into the I'm still even five years into the I'm still even five years into the practice of delivering cold exposure I practice of delivering cold exposure I practice of delivering cold exposure I prefer the Heat and a lot of Hashi prefer the Heat and a lot of Hashi prefer the Heat and a lot of Hashi ladies have cold intolerance right they ladies have cold intolerance right they ladies have cold intolerance right they feel like they're cold all the time I feel like they're cold all the time I feel like they're cold all the time I remember when I was diagnosed I would remember when I was diagnosed I would remember when I was diagnosed I would wear a scarf all the time year round and wear a scarf all the time year round and wear a scarf all the time year round and my husband's like it's like 90 degrees my husband's like it's like 90 degrees my husband's like it's like 90 degrees and humid as you know all hell out there and humid as you know all hell out there and humid as you know all hell out there and you're wearing a scarf what's going and you're wearing a scarf what's going and you're wearing a scarf what's going on and I was like I don't know I just on and I was like I don't know I just on and I was like I don't know I just feel like I need to like keep this part feel like I need to like keep this part feel like I need to like keep this part of my body warm I love Terry walls she's of my body warm I love Terry walls she's of my body warm I love Terry walls she's been on the podcast I love her approach been on the podcast I love her approach been on the podcast I love her approach you're you're you're on meds you're doing the wells protocol on meds you're doing the wells protocol on meds you're doing the wells protocol these little doses of exposure to these little doses of exposure to these little doses of exposure to different literature talking about cold different literature talking about cold different literature talking about cold exposure exposure exposure what kind of made you make the leap what kind of made you make the leap what kind of made you make the leap like I'm gonna do this because I don't like I'm gonna do this because I don't like I'm gonna do this because I don't think I've have yet to meet a woman with think I've have yet to meet a woman with think I've have yet to meet a woman with Hashimoto's it's like I'm gonna do cold Hashimoto's it's like I'm gonna do cold Hashimoto's it's like I'm gonna do cold exposure to help my symptoms no and in exposure to help my symptoms no and in exposure to help my symptoms no and in fact fact fact um at the time I told my partner I was um at the time I told my partner I was um at the time I told my partner I was like I can't do this I have a literal like I can't do this I have a literal like I can't do this I have a literal autoimmune disease that keeps my body autoimmune disease that keeps my body autoimmune disease that keeps my body from regulating against outside
10:00from regulating against outside from regulating against outside temperature properly so I have an temperature properly so I have an temperature properly so I have an illness that flat out says I shouldn't illness that flat out says I shouldn't illness that flat out says I shouldn't be doing this because my body doesn't be doing this because my body doesn't be doing this because my body doesn't know how to react to it know how to react to it know how to react to it and and and I still tried it because I was at my I still tried it because I was at my I still tried it because I was at my width end I was completely fed up my width end I was completely fed up my width end I was completely fed up my relationships around me were relationships around me were relationships around me were deteriorating I was struggling to keep deteriorating I was struggling to keep deteriorating I was struggling to keep um keep up at work I couldn't do um keep up at work I couldn't do um keep up at work I couldn't do anything with my kids like I was losing anything with my kids like I was losing anything with my kids like I was losing my social life because I just had my social life because I just had my social life because I just had nothing in me it was like you wake up in nothing in me it was like you wake up in nothing in me it was like you wake up in the morning my spoons were gone by the the morning my spoons were gone by the the morning my spoons were gone by the time I brushed my teeth I had nothing time I brushed my teeth I had nothing time I brushed my teeth I had nothing left to give and so everything in my left to give and so everything in my left to give and so everything in my life was falling apart including me so I life was falling apart including me so I life was falling apart including me so I was at my wit end I would have at that was at my wit end I would have at that was at my wit end I would have at that point I would have tried anything you point I would have tried anything you point I would have tried anything you said you know swimming in a pool of said you know swimming in a pool of said you know swimming in a pool of leeches doing that three times a day for leeches doing that three times a day for leeches doing that three times a day for a week would help me I probably would a week would help me I probably would a week would help me I probably would have done it at that point so when I'd have done it at that point so when I'd have done it at that point so when I'd say it was at my complete wits end and say it was at my complete wits end and say it was at my complete wits end and willing to try anything willing to try anything willing to try anything just know that the cold would have been just know that the cold would have been just know that the cold would have been the last thing that I would have chosen the last thing that I would have chosen the last thing that I would have chosen to try to try to try and it wasn't even like I still chose to
11:00and it wasn't even like I still chose to and it wasn't even like I still chose to try it my partner said all right you try it my partner said all right you try it my partner said all right you don't have to do it but I'm gonna do it don't have to do it but I'm gonna do it don't have to do it but I'm gonna do it and he says I'm gonna set it up in our and he says I'm gonna set it up in our and he says I'm gonna set it up in our backyard I'm going to invite our friends backyard I'm going to invite our friends backyard I'm going to invite our friends we're all going to do it you're invited we're all going to do it you're invited we're all going to do it you're invited as well but you don't have to join us as well but you don't have to join us as well but you don't have to join us and so here it is the Sunday morning in and so here it is the Sunday morning in and so here it is the Sunday morning in November 2017 and I'm like well November 2017 and I'm like well November 2017 and I'm like well everybody else is doing it like I'm everybody else is doing it like I'm everybody else is doing it like I'm gonna do it I'm very competitive so at gonna do it I'm very competitive so at gonna do it I'm very competitive so at least I had that going for me which is least I had that going for me which is least I had that going for me which is nice and uh we did we set it up in the nice and uh we did we set it up in the nice and uh we did we set it up in the backyard we did some breath work backyard we did some breath work backyard we did some breath work and then it was time to plunge and then it was time to plunge and then it was time to plunge and I had no idea what I was doing even and I had no idea what I was doing even and I had no idea what I was doing even the breath work the breath work is the breath work the breath work is the breath work the breath work is designed to you know oxygenate the blood designed to you know oxygenate the blood designed to you know oxygenate the blood and do all these things but it doesn't and do all these things but it doesn't and do all these things but it doesn't really prepare you to say all right now really prepare you to say all right now really prepare you to say all right now here's what you do when you get cold and here's what you do when you get cold and here's what you do when you get cold and so I this video is on YouTube by the way so I this video is on YouTube by the way so I this video is on YouTube by the way if you go to moronsco forge and look for if you go to moronsco forge and look for if you go to moronsco forge and look for Adrian's first ice bath it is hilarious Adrian's first ice bath it is hilarious Adrian's first ice bath it is hilarious I put one foot on each side of the tub I I put one foot on each side of the tub I I put one foot on each side of the tub I put one hand on each side of the tub I put one hand on each side of the tub I put one hand on each side of the tub I dropped myself in violently I held my
12:00dropped myself in violently I held my dropped myself in violently I held my brow turns out that lasted about nine brow turns out that lasted about nine brow turns out that lasted about nine seconds I let doubt I freaked out and seconds I let doubt I freaked out and seconds I let doubt I freaked out and there were two things that happened there were two things that happened there were two things that happened right away after that nine second I right away after that nine second I right away after that nine second I thought that led to this practice thought that led to this practice thought that led to this practice changing the entire course of my life changing the entire course of my life changing the entire course of my life for one The Chronic pain that I had in for one The Chronic pain that I had in for one The Chronic pain that I had in my legs every day for several years that my legs every day for several years that my legs every day for several years that even pain pills acupuncture anything I even pain pills acupuncture anything I even pain pills acupuncture anything I do nothing would touch it do nothing would touch it do nothing would touch it after nine seconds in a nice bath that after nine seconds in a nice bath that after nine seconds in a nice bath that chronic pain was gone chronic pain was gone chronic pain was gone so any of you out there who lives with so any of you out there who lives with so any of you out there who lives with chronic pain who understands that chronic pain who understands that chronic pain who understands that there's no such thing as relief from there's no such thing as relief from there's no such thing as relief from chronic pain if you can't even imagine chronic pain if you can't even imagine chronic pain if you can't even imagine in your mind what it feels like to get in your mind what it feels like to get in your mind what it feels like to get complete relief for the first time after complete relief for the first time after complete relief for the first time after years of being inflicted with this years of being inflicted with this years of being inflicted with this chronic pain I was I was elated I sobbed chronic pain I was I was elated I sobbed chronic pain I was I was elated I sobbed I was so I was so I was so grateful grateful grateful for the relief of that pain in my legs for the relief of that pain in my legs for the relief of that pain in my legs the other thing that happened was this
13:00the other thing that happened was this the other thing that happened was this sense and feeling of empowerment sense and feeling of empowerment sense and feeling of empowerment so the first time really for the first so the first time really for the first so the first time really for the first time in my life I felt confident and time in my life I felt confident and time in my life I felt confident and empowered and realized that every minute empowered and realized that every minute empowered and realized that every minute up into that point I'd been living in a up into that point I'd been living in a up into that point I'd been living in a false bravado this I've got it I can do false bravado this I've got it I can do false bravado this I've got it I can do anything I am the badass this that and anything I am the badass this that and anything I am the badass this that and the other and all of a sudden I was the other and all of a sudden I was the other and all of a sudden I was humbled in a way that empowered me I was humbled in a way that empowered me I was humbled in a way that empowered me I was shown truly what empowerment and shown truly what empowerment and shown truly what empowerment and confidence feels like confidence feels like confidence feels like though I knew right away I was going to though I knew right away I was going to though I knew right away I was going to do it again not that day one nine do it again not that day one nine do it again not that day one nine seconds on my person I stopped was seconds on my person I stopped was seconds on my person I stopped was enough but it was definitely something I enough but it was definitely something I enough but it was definitely something I wanted to do again and then started to wanted to do again and then started to wanted to do again and then started to do regularly about once a week from that do regularly about once a week from that do regularly about once a week from that point point point and how did your and how did your and how did your Labs change right because getting Labs change right because getting Labs change right because getting diagnosed with three autoimmune diagnosed with three autoimmune conditions is is a lot and usually after conditions is is a lot and usually after conditions is is a lot and usually after we get diagnosed with one the likelihood we get diagnosed with one the likelihood we get diagnosed with one the likelihood of getting diagnosed with the second or of getting diagnosed with the second or of getting diagnosed with the second or third is much higher you found a change third is much higher you found a change third is much higher you found a change in your Labs not only your symptoms but in your Labs not only your symptoms but in your Labs not only your symptoms but also your lab work
14:00also your lab work also your lab work well that didn't come right away yeah so well that didn't come right away yeah so well that didn't come right away yeah so it took almost two years and I wasn't it took almost two years and I wasn't it took almost two years and I wasn't working with my doctors on this the most working with my doctors on this the most working with my doctors on this the most frustrating part to me is that I would frustrating part to me is that I would frustrating part to me is that I would see four Specialists a year I'd see see four Specialists a year I'd see see four Specialists a year I'd see Amanda my endocrinologist twice a year Amanda my endocrinologist twice a year Amanda my endocrinologist twice a year to read my labs and to get the to read my labs and to get the to read my labs and to get the information make sure I'm on the right information make sure I'm on the right information make sure I'm on the right track and no one was interested in this track and no one was interested in this track and no one was interested in this practice other than my allergist my practice other than my allergist my practice other than my allergist my allergist was the one that was like wow allergist was the one that was like wow allergist was the one that was like wow you're you're doing cold you're taking you're you're doing cold you're taking you're you're doing cold you're taking ice baths that sounds amazing I'm gonna ice baths that sounds amazing I'm gonna ice baths that sounds amazing I'm gonna talk to people about this like I'm gonna talk to people about this like I'm gonna talk to people about this like I'm gonna get some information about this he was get some information about this he was get some information about this he was the first he was the first that was just the first he was the first that was just the first he was the first that was just like this is rad I'm putting this in like this is rad I'm putting this in like this is rad I'm putting this in your file your file your file well as I was going through this process well as I was going through this process well as I was going through this process it wasn't right away even that I it wasn't right away even that I it wasn't right away even that I realized it was affecting my health the realized it was affecting my health the realized it was affecting my health the first thing that had changed was my mind first thing that had changed was my mind first thing that had changed was my mind the first thing that had an impact was the first thing that had an impact was the first thing that had an impact was the way that I was thinking about what I the way that I was thinking about what I the way that I was thinking about what I was going through so I was shifting this was going through so I was shifting this was going through so I was shifting this mindset of feeling like a victim into mindset of feeling like a victim into mindset of feeling like a victim into this mindset of empowerment like you this mindset of empowerment like you this mindset of empowerment like you know what this is what I can do know what this is what I can do know what this is what I can do I can eat well I can make sure I get
15:00I can eat well I can make sure I get I can eat well I can make sure I get eight hours of sleep a night I can sit eight hours of sleep a night I can sit eight hours of sleep a night I can sit in front of a red light I can do in front of a red light I can do in front of a red light I can do deliberate cold exposure and I knew deliberate cold exposure and I knew deliberate cold exposure and I knew every time I took an ice bath I felt every time I took an ice bath I felt every time I took an ice bath I felt better and I would feel better for hours better and I would feel better for hours better and I would feel better for hours sometimes days and especially when I sometimes days and especially when I sometimes days and especially when I introduced it as a regular practice once introduced it as a regular practice once introduced it as a regular practice once we invented the machine and I got we invented the machine and I got we invented the machine and I got regular access I not only had something regular access I not only had something regular access I not only had something to practice daily that was going to help to practice daily that was going to help to practice daily that was going to help me feel good but if I experienced a me feel good but if I experienced a me feel good but if I experienced a histamine reaction I'd go straight into histamine reaction I'd go straight into histamine reaction I'd go straight into the ice the ice the ice so if I had an offending experience I so if I had an offending experience I so if I had an offending experience I had a tool now to go right in and had a tool now to go right in and had a tool now to go right in and completely stop that histamine reaction completely stop that histamine reaction completely stop that histamine reaction and it was working and it was working and it was working so over the first year it was more just so over the first year it was more just so over the first year it was more just about leaning in like really diving into about leaning in like really diving into about leaning in like really diving into the practice and feeling good and the practice and feeling good and the practice and feeling good and finding out how do I get myself to stay finding out how do I get myself to stay finding out how do I get myself to stay in because that's the other part you in because that's the other part you in because that's the other part you know for my first few I stopped they know for my first few I stopped they know for my first few I stopped they were only a few seconds long because were only a few seconds long because were only a few seconds long because that fight or flight would come in I that fight or flight would come in I that fight or flight would come in I wouldn't know how to deal with it I wouldn't know how to deal with it I wouldn't know how to deal with it I wasn't versed at the time on how to wasn't versed at the time on how to wasn't versed at the time on how to respond when my body was in fight or respond when my body was in fight or respond when my body was in fight or flight and I would just get out
16:00flight and I would just get out flight and I would just get out so sign bar that's a whole other so sign bar that's a whole other so sign bar that's a whole other conversation on how I developed the conversation on how I developed the conversation on how I developed the merozco method a sensory immersive merozco method a sensory immersive merozco method a sensory immersive mindful meditation for moving through mindful meditation for moving through mindful meditation for moving through that stress response with calm that stress response with calm that stress response with calm that first year was really just focused that first year was really just focused that first year was really just focused on how do I do this more often how do I on how do I do this more often how do I on how do I do this more often how do I use this when I'm having you know use this when I'm having you know use this when I'm having you know flare-ups or an experience and it was flare-ups or an experience and it was flare-ups or an experience and it was the second year that I started to feel the second year that I started to feel the second year that I started to feel confident enough to remove some of these confident enough to remove some of these confident enough to remove some of these things that I was relying on on a daily things that I was relying on on a daily things that I was relying on on a daily basis so the first thing to go the basis so the first thing to go the basis so the first thing to go the vitamins and supplements I knew I vitamins and supplements I knew I vitamins and supplements I knew I technically didn't need them to stay technically didn't need them to stay technically didn't need them to stay alive even though I believed in vitamins alive even though I believed in vitamins alive even though I believed in vitamins and supplements like I just knew I and supplements like I just knew I and supplements like I just knew I didn't need them to stay alive so I had didn't need them to stay alive so I had didn't need them to stay alive so I had to eliminate them and so you know these to eliminate them and so you know these to eliminate them and so you know these pill bottles just growing on the dresser pill bottles just growing on the dresser pill bottles just growing on the dresser at any given time is now starting to at any given time is now starting to at any given time is now starting to shift and reduce shift and reduce shift and reduce and so first thing to go pills and and so first thing to go pills and and so first thing to go pills and vitamin supplements vitamin supplements vitamin supplements Brown Nair it was important for me to Brown Nair it was important for me to Brown Nair it was important for me to wean myself off slowly of all of these wean myself off slowly of all of these wean myself off slowly of all of these other medications and that's what I did
17:00other medications and that's what I did other medications and that's what I did I spent that second year I printed out I spent that second year I printed out I spent that second year I printed out calendar pages I said I'm going to take calendar pages I said I'm going to take calendar pages I said I'm going to take these pills on this days I'm going to these pills on this days I'm going to these pills on this days I'm going to reduce this one by one day a week here reduce this one by one day a week here reduce this one by one day a week here two days a week here and it was a two days a week here and it was a two days a week here and it was a year-long process of removing myself year-long process of removing myself year-long process of removing myself from all prescription medications from all prescription medications from all prescription medications the hardest one to quit the hardest one to quit the hardest one to quit of everything of everything of everything was Zyrtec was Zyrtec was Zyrtec was that daily allergy pill that numbs was that daily allergy pill that numbs was that daily allergy pill that numbs your histamine response but then when it your histamine response but then when it your histamine response but then when it starts to leave your system everything starts to leave your system everything starts to leave your system everything is attacking you're feeling everything is attacking you're feeling everything is attacking you're feeling everything even if you're weaning yourself off of even if you're weaning yourself off of even if you're weaning yourself off of it it can feel like your entire body is it it can feel like your entire body is it it can feel like your entire body is itching and convulsing and sweating and itching and convulsing and sweating and itching and convulsing and sweating and reacting and as slow as I tapered off of reacting and as slow as I tapered off of reacting and as slow as I tapered off of that one I still had such an extreme that one I still had such an extreme that one I still had such an extreme reaction from removing that from my reaction from removing that from my reaction from removing that from my system all of the while finding out that system all of the while finding out that system all of the while finding out that that's not a pill that you're supposed that's not a pill that you're supposed that's not a pill that you're supposed to be on for life to be on for life to be on for life Zyrtec Claritin those daily allergy Zyrtec Claritin those daily allergy Zyrtec Claritin those daily allergy pills 30 days max pills 30 days max pills 30 days max five to seven dates if you can help it
18:00five to seven dates if you can help it five to seven dates if you can help it but when you're on these for years your but when you're on these for years your but when you're on these for years your body stops understanding how it's body stops understanding how it's body stops understanding how it's probably supposed to react probably supposed to react probably supposed to react so I spent that second year weaning off so I spent that second year weaning off so I spent that second year weaning off every medication so that by the time I every medication so that by the time I every medication so that by the time I went into my endocrinologist in 2019 went into my endocrinologist in 2019 went into my endocrinologist in 2019 I didn't tell her I didn't tell her I didn't tell her I didn't tell her that I was four months I didn't tell her that I was four months I didn't tell her that I was four months medication free medication free medication free what she noticed right away was that I what she noticed right away was that I what she noticed right away was that I lost 50 pounds and no one else that she lost 50 pounds and no one else that she lost 50 pounds and no one else that she knows with Hashimoto's has ever lost any knows with Hashimoto's has ever lost any knows with Hashimoto's has ever lost any weight wow what are you doing and so I weight wow what are you doing and so I weight wow what are you doing and so I told her I said I'm doing deliberate told her I said I'm doing deliberate told her I said I'm doing deliberate cold exposure I'm doing intermittent and cold exposure I'm doing intermittent and cold exposure I'm doing intermittent and extended fasting and I'm doing low extended fasting and I'm doing low extended fasting and I'm doing low inflammation food map inflammation food map inflammation food map and she's like great this is great so and she's like great this is great so and she's like great this is great so she reads my labs everything was in she reads my labs everything was in she reads my labs everything was in range and she says well I want you to range and she says well I want you to range and she says well I want you to keep doing what you're doing because keep doing what you're doing because keep doing what you're doing because everything's within range and I said everything's within range and I said everything's within range and I said well that's good because I'm not doing well that's good because I'm not doing well that's good because I'm not doing anything I'm not taking any pills and anything I'm not taking any pills and anything I'm not taking any pills and she didn't believe me at first she was she didn't believe me at first she was she didn't believe me at first she was like what like what like what do you like what like what like what do you like what like what like what do you mean you're not taking your pills you mean you're not taking your pills you mean you're not taking your pills you need them no I don't she's like well need them no I don't she's like well need them no I don't she's like well that's that's great so you're within that's that's great so you're within that's that's great so you're within range you're not on your medications
19:00range you're not on your medications range you're not on your medications you're feeling great you lost the weight you're feeling great you lost the weight you're feeling great you lost the weight I hope I never have to see you again I hope I never have to see you again I hope I never have to see you again and I'm thinking yeah you know I look and I'm thinking yeah you know I look and I'm thinking yeah you know I look see you're a typical and then I walk out see you're a typical and then I walk out see you're a typical and then I walk out of her office of her office of her office and I walk through the waiting room and and I walk through the waiting room and and I walk through the waiting room and there are a dozen other women there are a dozen other women there are a dozen other women overweight overweight overweight unhappy over medicated and not unhappy over medicated and not unhappy over medicated and not experiencing symptom relief experiencing symptom relief experiencing symptom relief and I thought this doctor is not going and I thought this doctor is not going and I thought this doctor is not going to go shopless from the rooftop she's to go shopless from the rooftop she's to go shopless from the rooftop she's not going to tell these women in this not going to tell these women in this not going to tell these women in this waiting room they're alternatives to waiting room they're alternatives to waiting room they're alternatives to their healing so at that moment I took their healing so at that moment I took their healing so at that moment I took it upon myself it upon myself it upon myself to shout the healing benefits of the to shout the healing benefits of the to shout the healing benefits of the cold from the rooftops to let people cold from the rooftops to let people cold from the rooftops to let people know that whether we are diagnosed with know that whether we are diagnosed with know that whether we are diagnosed with autoimmune chronic illness metabolic autoimmune chronic illness metabolic autoimmune chronic illness metabolic disease whatever it is we are superhuman disease whatever it is we are superhuman disease whatever it is we are superhuman we have the ability to heal our bodies we have the ability to heal our bodies we have the ability to heal our bodies but it starts here but it starts here but it starts here yeah because it Minds leave it can yeah because it Minds leave it can yeah because it Minds leave it can happen it's not going to happen happen it's not going to happen happen it's not going to happen but if I believe it can happen that's but if I believe it can happen that's but if I believe it can happen that's half the battle right there yeah so half the battle right there yeah so half the battle right there yeah so let's give the women a visual right so
20:00let's give the women a visual right so let's give the women a visual right so you are the co-owner and co-founder of you are the co-owner and co-founder of you are the co-owner and co-founder of Morosco Forge world's first ice bath and Morosco Forge world's first ice bath and Morosco Forge world's first ice bath and I know over maybe it's like the last two I know over maybe it's like the last two I know over maybe it's like the last two years maybe since the pandemic cold years maybe since the pandemic cold years maybe since the pandemic cold immersion has become very popular but immersion has become very popular but immersion has become very popular but some people still haven't heard of it so some people still haven't heard of it so some people still haven't heard of it so can you give people a visual of Morrow's can you give people a visual of Morrow's can you give people a visual of Morrow's co-forge and then we'll talk about the co-forge and then we'll talk about the co-forge and then we'll talk about the method method method yeah so you know when we got into this yeah so you know when we got into this yeah so you know when we got into this practice noticing right away these practice noticing right away these practice noticing right away these effects like I'm like when I say instant effects like I'm like when I say instant effects like I'm like when I say instant it's instant we think of taking ice it's instant we think of taking ice it's instant we think of taking ice baths as being this big aggressive I baths as being this big aggressive I baths as being this big aggressive I need to like select myself out for it need to like select myself out for it need to like select myself out for it and it's passive therapy you show up you and it's passive therapy you show up you and it's passive therapy you show up you sit down you breathe you have an instant sit down you breathe you have an instant sit down you breathe you have an instant instant gratification instant change and instant gratification instant change and instant gratification instant change and this is what I like to stress more than this is what I like to stress more than this is what I like to stress more than anything because nothing we do gives us anything because nothing we do gives us anything because nothing we do gives us such a powerful effect in such a short such a powerful effect in such a short such a powerful effect in such a short amount of time there's literally nothing amount of time there's literally nothing amount of time there's literally nothing so when we're discovering this when so when we're discovering this when so when we're discovering this when Jason and I first started taking ice
21:00Jason and I first started taking ice Jason and I first started taking ice baths in the backyard we realized like baths in the backyard we realized like baths in the backyard we realized like once a week's not enough especially once a week's not enough especially once a week's not enough especially because I was moving through autoimmune because I was moving through autoimmune because I was moving through autoimmune and wanted to have something that I and wanted to have something that I and wanted to have something that I could go to when I had a low spoon day could go to when I had a low spoon day could go to when I had a low spoon day or I had a day with low energy or I had or I had a day with low energy or I had or I had a day with low energy or I had a day with a histamine Rancher I had a a day with a histamine Rancher I had a a day with a histamine Rancher I had a day where my symptoms were flaring in day where my symptoms were flaring in day where my symptoms were flaring in and so you know there were the DIY and so you know there were the DIY and so you know there were the DIY options out there we were making our own options out there we were making our own options out there we were making our own ice for a while but you'd spend one to ice for a while but you'd spend one to ice for a while but you'd spend one to two hours every week night to hopefully two hours every week night to hopefully two hours every week night to hopefully get one eye stop on a Sunday we tried get one eye stop on a Sunday we tried get one eye stop on a Sunday we tried the DIY chest freezer route that they're the DIY chest freezer route that they're the DIY chest freezer route that they're not really meant to hold that water not really meant to hold that water not really meant to hold that water they're certainly not meant to hold your they're certainly not meant to hold your they're certainly not meant to hold your body stepping in and out of it so there body stepping in and out of it so there body stepping in and out of it so there was constant leaks there was a risk of was constant leaks there was a risk of was constant leaks there was a risk of electric shock there were all kinds of electric shock there were all kinds of electric shock there were all kinds of things that were you know it wasn't things that were you know it wasn't things that were you know it wasn't clean which was also an issue you know clean which was also an issue you know clean which was also an issue you know like I couldn't be exposed to algaes or like I couldn't be exposed to algaes or like I couldn't be exposed to algaes or yeah well we'll do this it was really yeah well we'll do this it was really yeah well we'll do this it was really important that if I was submerging my important that if I was submerging my important that if I was submerging my whole body it was in clean water whole body it was in clean water whole body it was in clean water and uh we love it we looked for you know and uh we love it we looked for you know and uh we love it we looked for you know what can we do as a home user and there what can we do as a home user and there what can we do as a home user and there just wasn't anything on the market there
22:00just wasn't anything on the market there just wasn't anything on the market there was nothing there was the cold tub which was nothing there was the cold tub which was nothing there was the cold tub which gets down to about 45 degrees meant for gets down to about 45 degrees meant for gets down to about 45 degrees meant for commercial facilities and at the time it commercial facilities and at the time it commercial facilities and at the time it was over 25 000 we're like you know I was over 25 000 we're like you know I was over 25 000 we're like you know I want to heal my my body's important to want to heal my my body's important to want to heal my my body's important to me my life's important to me but I don't me my life's important to me but I don't me my life's important to me but I don't have that kind of coin and so Jason have that kind of coin and so Jason have that kind of coin and so Jason being an engineer being an engineer being an engineer so I'm gonna figure this out I'm gonna so I'm gonna figure this out I'm gonna so I'm gonna figure this out I'm gonna figure out where cold comes from and so figure out where cold comes from and so figure out where cold comes from and so he starts tearing apart dorm fridges in he starts tearing apart dorm fridges in he starts tearing apart dorm fridges in our backyard like just trying to find our backyard like just trying to find our backyard like just trying to find out where coal comes from I'm convinced out where coal comes from I'm convinced out where coal comes from I'm convinced he's gonna blow up the house because I'm he's gonna blow up the house because I'm he's gonna blow up the house because I'm like you're ripping apart this machine like you're ripping apart this machine like you're ripping apart this machine like what's in it you don't even know like what's in it you don't even know like what's in it you don't even know and he explained to me he's like that's and he explained to me he's like that's and he explained to me he's like that's not how thermodynamics work but I'll not how thermodynamics work but I'll not how thermodynamics work but I'll teach you that at a later date and so teach you that at a later date and so teach you that at a later date and so once he figured out where coal came from once he figured out where coal came from once he figured out where coal came from we were able to develop our first ugly we were able to develop our first ugly we were able to develop our first ugly prototype which was just a prop sitting prototype which was just a prop sitting prototype which was just a prop sitting on a bed of sand encased in plywood and on a bed of sand encased in plywood and on a bed of sand encased in plywood and spray foam with these two devices spray foam with these two devices spray foam with these two devices hanging over the sides making ice hanging over the sides making ice hanging over the sides making ice but the good news was I now have 24 7 but the good news was I now have 24 7 but the good news was I now have 24 7 access to the cold so anytime I needed access to the cold so anytime I needed access to the cold so anytime I needed it I had it and as we're going through
23:00it I had it and as we're going through it I had it and as we're going through this practice we're realizing we're not this practice we're realizing we're not this practice we're realizing we're not just solving our own problems there are just solving our own problems there are just solving our own problems there are all kinds of people out there that are all kinds of people out there that are all kinds of people out there that are trying to get 24 Summit access to ice in trying to get 24 Summit access to ice in trying to get 24 Summit access to ice in their homes their homes their homes and so we invented the first marowska and so we invented the first marowska and so we invented the first marowska porg ice bath and we were quickly porg ice bath and we were quickly porg ice bath and we were quickly challenged to uh create a device that challenged to uh create a device that challenged to uh create a device that also had filtration and so that's when also had filtration and so that's when also had filtration and so that's when filtration came in and it was important filtration came in and it was important filtration came in and it was important to us that we weren't using harsh to us that we weren't using harsh to us that we weren't using harsh chemicals we didn't want to sit in a tub chemicals we didn't want to sit in a tub chemicals we didn't want to sit in a tub of chlorine algaecide these scumbers or of chlorine algaecide these scumbers or of chlorine algaecide these scumbers or anything like that so we use the Micron anything like that so we use the Micron anything like that so we use the Micron filtration with ozone disinfection that filtration with ozone disinfection that filtration with ozone disinfection that keeps the water crystal clear 24 7 365 keeps the water crystal clear 24 7 365 keeps the water crystal clear 24 7 365 makes its own ice makes its own ice makes its own ice and doesn't require any harsh chemicals and doesn't require any harsh chemicals and doesn't require any harsh chemicals the most that I put in my ice bath is the most that I put in my ice bath is the most that I put in my ice bath is Epsom salts which is really great Epsom salts which is really great Epsom salts which is really great because magnesium because magnesium because magnesium and So within that within 2018 we did and So within that within 2018 we did and So within that within 2018 we did all of our research and development all of our research and development all of our research and development January 2019 we sold our very first unit January 2019 we sold our very first unit January 2019 we sold our very first unit we did not intend to become the Ferrari we did not intend to become the Ferrari we did not intend to become the Ferrari of ice bath we didn't intend to become
24:00of ice bath we didn't intend to become of ice bath we didn't intend to become the luxury model we just knew that there the luxury model we just knew that there the luxury model we just knew that there were two things that were the most were two things that were the most were two things that were the most important to us number one we needed it important to us number one we needed it important to us number one we needed it to be as close to freezing as possible to be as close to freezing as possible to be as close to freezing as possible number two we wanted no Hersh chemicals number two we wanted no Hersh chemicals number two we wanted no Hersh chemicals we accomplished those two things we're we accomplished those two things we're we accomplished those two things we're also handcrafted in Phoenix Arizona so also handcrafted in Phoenix Arizona so also handcrafted in Phoenix Arizona so it costs us a lot more to build these it costs us a lot more to build these it costs us a lot more to build these machines we're creating jobs during the machines we're creating jobs during the machines we're creating jobs during the pandemic we created jobs so we grew and pandemic we created jobs so we grew and pandemic we created jobs so we grew and we also helped grow our community and we also helped grow our community and we also helped grow our community and our team members in this practice and our team members in this practice and our team members in this practice and through our company yeah tremendous through our company yeah tremendous through our company yeah tremendous let's talk about because I'm sure the let's talk about because I'm sure the let's talk about because I'm sure the women listening are like okay so what's women listening are like okay so what's women listening are like okay so what's the ideal is there an ideal temperature the ideal is there an ideal temperature the ideal is there an ideal temperature dosing timing dosing timing dosing timing well I'll first start by saying any well I'll first start by saying any well I'll first start by saying any amount of cold is a good amount of cold amount of cold is a good amount of cold amount of cold is a good amount of cold if you are uncomfortable you're doing if you are uncomfortable you're doing if you are uncomfortable you're doing the work I hate cold showers I've the work I hate cold showers I've the work I hate cold showers I've wrinkles sit calmly at 33 to boil water wrinkles sit calmly at 33 to boil water wrinkles sit calmly at 33 to boil water in a bath and be locally pelted with 60 in a bath and be locally pelted with 60 in a bath and be locally pelted with 60 or 70 degree water but if that's all you or 70 degree water but if that's all you or 70 degree water but if that's all you have that's all you have so number one have that's all you have so number one have that's all you have so number one the biggest challenge is going to be
25:00the biggest challenge is going to be the biggest challenge is going to be access what do you have access to can access what do you have access to can access what do you have access to can you go to a facility that provides cold you go to a facility that provides cold you go to a facility that provides cold as a service do you have the ability to as a service do you have the ability to as a service do you have the ability to purchase your own ice bath are you just purchase your own ice bath are you just purchase your own ice bath are you just inviting friends bringing a bunch of ice inviting friends bringing a bunch of ice inviting friends bringing a bunch of ice and doing it that way you can do a cold and doing it that way you can do a cold and doing it that way you can do a cold shower if you live in a climate that shower if you live in a climate that shower if you live in a climate that allows that but here in Phoenix Arizona allows that but here in Phoenix Arizona allows that but here in Phoenix Arizona even the winter time we can't get cold even the winter time we can't get cold even the winter time we can't get cold showers so that's a challenge you can showers so that's a challenge you can showers so that's a challenge you can also feel a large bowl with ice then add also feel a large bowl with ice then add also feel a large bowl with ice then add water dunk your face three to five times water dunk your face three to five times water dunk your face three to five times dunk your hands three to five times dunk your hands three to five times dunk your hands three to five times stunt your feet three to five times I do stunt your feet three to five times I do stunt your feet three to five times I do recommend it in that order because you recommend it in that order because you recommend it in that order because you know put water on the face but some know put water on the face but some know put water on the face but some number one challenge is access number one challenge is access number one challenge is access number two challenge is how cold does it number two challenge is how cold does it number two challenge is how cold does it need to be and how long do I have to need to be and how long do I have to need to be and how long do I have to stay in I'm not a doctor but I stay in I'm not a doctor but I stay in I'm not a doctor but I personally believe that if you're trying personally believe that if you're trying personally believe that if you're trying to create metabolic change it's got to to create metabolic change it's got to to create metabolic change it's got to be below 35 degrees and here's why you be below 35 degrees and here's why you be below 35 degrees and here's why you want to activate fight or flight but why want to activate fight or flight but why want to activate fight or flight but why why do I want to scare the crap out of why do I want to scare the crap out of why do I want to scare the crap out of my my my few different reasons for one when I
26:00few different reasons for one when I few different reasons for one when I activate fight or flight all of the activate fight or flight all of the activate fight or flight all of the systems all the systems in my body have systems all the systems in my body have systems all the systems in my body have to come online and work at Optimum to come online and work at Optimum to come online and work at Optimum efficiency to keep me alive efficiency to keep me alive efficiency to keep me alive if my body thinks it's dying this is if my body thinks it's dying this is if my body thinks it's dying this is like the defibrillator in the system like the defibrillator in the system like the defibrillator in the system that shocks it and makes wakes it up and that shocks it and makes wakes it up and that shocks it and makes wakes it up and says hey I have to work my butt off to says hey I have to work my butt off to says hey I have to work my butt off to make sure you surround right now I don't make sure you surround right now I don't make sure you surround right now I don't know why you keep doing this to me but know why you keep doing this to me but know why you keep doing this to me but we're all going to work together so that we're all going to work together so that we're all going to work together so that we keep you alive when you're doing that we keep you alive when you're doing that we keep you alive when you're doing that repeatedly you're basically retraining repeatedly you're basically retraining repeatedly you're basically retraining your brain right so autoimmune my body your brain right so autoimmune my body your brain right so autoimmune my body is attacking itself it's the dog without is attacking itself it's the dog without is attacking itself it's the dog without a job I start to introduce freezing a job I start to introduce freezing a job I start to introduce freezing deliberate cold exposure these freezing deliberate cold exposure these freezing deliberate cold exposure these freezing temperatures that cause fight or flight temperatures that cause fight or flight temperatures that cause fight or flight reaction all of a sudden my dog has a reaction all of a sudden my dog has a reaction all of a sudden my dog has a job my body has an external something to job my body has an external something to job my body has an external something to work against in order to build that work against in order to build that work against in order to build that resilience because I'm doing it resilience because I'm doing it resilience because I'm doing it regularly my body's like I don't know regularly my body's like I don't know regularly my body's like I don't know when she's gonna try and kill us again when she's gonna try and kill us again when she's gonna try and kill us again so we better stay on point so we better stay on point so we better stay on point so it's like shocking my system each so it's like shocking my system each so it's like shocking my system each time that I'm going in but if it's 55 time that I'm going in but if it's 55 time that I'm going in but if it's 55 degrees which is really where the degrees which is really where the degrees which is really where the benefits begin if it's 55 degrees I
27:00benefits begin if it's 55 degrees I benefits begin if it's 55 degrees I might not activate fight or flight might not activate fight or flight might not activate fight or flight especially me being more practiced now especially me being more practiced now especially me being more practiced now if it's not below 37 degrees I'm not if it's not below 37 degrees I'm not if it's not below 37 degrees I'm not putting bathing suit on yeah keeping in putting bathing suit on yeah keeping in putting bathing suit on yeah keeping in mind you know sometimes we want to start mind you know sometimes we want to start mind you know sometimes we want to start at that 55 degrees and then work our way at that 55 degrees and then work our way at that 55 degrees and then work our way up up up start at 33. what are you waiting for start at 33. what are you waiting for start at 33. what are you waiting for what what's the hesitation it's two what what's the hesitation it's two what what's the hesitation it's two minutes minutes minutes two minutes submerged to the neck and two minutes submerged to the neck and two minutes submerged to the neck and freezing water yes it's uncomfortable freezing water yes it's uncomfortable freezing water yes it's uncomfortable and it's like cold concentrate you get and it's like cold concentrate you get and it's like cold concentrate you get that one two punch you get that that one two punch you get that that one two punch you get that immediate gratification of feeling immediate gratification of feeling immediate gratification of feeling better you get a 520 increase in better you get a 520 increase in better you get a 520 increase in norepinephrine and dopamine those norepinephrine and dopamine those norepinephrine and dopamine those effects last for hours sometimes days effects last for hours sometimes days effects last for hours sometimes days so why would I mess around at 55 degrees so why would I mess around at 55 degrees so why would I mess around at 55 degrees for 10 to 15 minutes I want that cold for 10 to 15 minutes I want that cold for 10 to 15 minutes I want that cold concentrating concentrating concentrating so I believe that if you're trying to so I believe that if you're trying to so I believe that if you're trying to reverse metabolic disease if you're reverse metabolic disease if you're reverse metabolic disease if you're trying to you're the incurable trying to you're the incurable trying to you're the incurable even if that's not uh chronic illness even if that's not uh chronic illness even if that's not uh chronic illness even if that's not chronic pain maybe even if that's not chronic pain maybe even if that's not chronic pain maybe it's PTSD maybe it's anxiety and
28:00it's PTSD maybe it's anxiety and it's PTSD maybe it's anxiety and depression if I want that cold depression if I want that cold depression if I want that cold concentrate that one two punch for a concentrate that one two punch for a concentrate that one two punch for a drastic impact every time I want that drastic impact every time I want that drastic impact every time I want that water to be as close to freezing as water to be as close to freezing as water to be as close to freezing as possible possible possible sometimes as women and maybe just as a sometimes as women and maybe just as a sometimes as women and maybe just as a human species we think more is better human species we think more is better human species we think more is better right so you mentioned two minutes if I right so you mentioned two minutes if I right so you mentioned two minutes if I do three minutes or four minutes do three minutes or four minutes do three minutes or four minutes something something different will something something different will something something different will happen or I'll get a better effect or is happen or I'll get a better effect or is happen or I'll get a better effect or is is that the mindset is like more is is that the mindset is like more is is that the mindset is like more is better in this instance oh that's better in this instance oh that's better in this instance oh that's definitely our mindset it's not accurate definitely our mindset it's not accurate definitely our mindset it's not accurate so it's just that minimum effective dose so it's just that minimum effective dose so it's just that minimum effective dose practice right we're so people we're so practice right we're so people we're so practice right we're so people we're so people eat we're like if I do two people eat we're like if I do two people eat we're like if I do two minutes and I feel this great if I do 10 minutes and I feel this great if I do 10 minutes and I feel this great if I do 10 minutes I'm gonna feel like Superman and minutes I'm gonna feel like Superman and minutes I'm gonna feel like Superman and that's just not true there are that's just not true there are that's just not true there are diminishing return if you are pushing diminishing return if you are pushing diminishing return if you are pushing yourself too far too fast or if you're yourself too far too fast or if you're yourself too far too fast or if you're just pushing yourself too far with this just pushing yourself too far with this just pushing yourself too far with this practice there comes a point where your practice there comes a point where your practice there comes a point where your body's just like no yeah look two body's just like no yeah look two body's just like no yeah look two minutes submerged up to the next so you minutes submerged up to the next so you minutes submerged up to the next so you want to make sure that you're submerged
29:00want to make sure that you're submerged want to make sure that you're submerged here because this is where your vagus here because this is where your vagus here because this is where your vagus nerve is and that's what we want to nerve is and that's what we want to nerve is and that's what we want to activate we want to reduce this core activate we want to reduce this core activate we want to reduce this core temperature we want to activate the temperature we want to activate the temperature we want to activate the vagus nerve so we want to make sure vagus nerve so we want to make sure vagus nerve so we want to make sure we're submerged we want our hands and we're submerged we want our hands and we're submerged we want our hands and feet in do they hurt are they feet in do they hurt are they feet in do they hurt are they uncomfortable yeah they're uncomfortable uncomfortable yeah they're uncomfortable uncomfortable yeah they're uncomfortable they're also the greatest away from our they're also the greatest away from our they're also the greatest away from our heart so what you're feeling is that heart so what you're feeling is that heart so what you're feeling is that constriction and dilation of the constriction and dilation of the constriction and dilation of the vascular system which the more you do it vascular system which the more you do it vascular system which the more you do it the easier it gets so people are just the easier it gets so people are just the easier it gets so people are just like my hands hurt yes they do but if like my hands hurt yes they do but if like my hands hurt yes they do but if you practice that will stop you practice that will stop you practice that will stop so we need that full submersion but we so we need that full submersion but we so we need that full submersion but we don't have to push this practice if you don't have to push this practice if you don't have to push this practice if you feel incredible two minutes feel incredible two minutes feel incredible two minutes stop stop stop yeah and when you mean full submersion yeah and when you mean full submersion yeah and when you mean full submersion for the people who are listening and not for the people who are listening and not for the people who are listening and not looking at the video you're seeing like looking at the video you're seeing like looking at the video you're seeing like literally up to your chin like neck in literally up to your chin like neck in literally up to your chin like neck in the back of the base of your skull the back of the base of your skull the back of the base of your skull submerged is there any extra benefit to submerged is there any extra benefit to submerged is there any extra benefit to because you'll see on online on because you'll see on online on because you'll see on online on Instagram people um dunking their head Instagram people um dunking their head Instagram people um dunking their head or dunking their head multiple times is or dunking their head multiple times is or dunking their head multiple times is there any additional benefit to that there any additional benefit to that
30:00there any additional benefit to that versus not dunking versus not dunking versus not dunking there can be so this I don't it binds there can be so this I don't it binds there can be so this I don't it binds head dunking unless you're a little head dunking unless you're a little head dunking unless you're a little further into the practice I've seen further into the practice I've seen further into the practice I've seen people do it on their very first I fap people do it on their very first I fap people do it on their very first I fap and they love it and that's okay but if and they love it and that's okay but if and they love it and that's okay but if you're new to the practice I say give you're new to the practice I say give you're new to the practice I say give yourself something to work toward right yourself something to work toward right yourself something to work toward right and a couple of things about head and a couple of things about head and a couple of things about head dunking number one we do not want to go dunking number one we do not want to go dunking number one we do not want to go face first especially if we're new in face first especially if we're new in face first especially if we're new in this practice if we go face first we can this practice if we go face first we can this practice if we go face first we can over stimulate the body's mammalian dive over stimulate the body's mammalian dive over stimulate the body's mammalian dive response and we can faint so if you're response and we can faint so if you're response and we can faint so if you're going to head down I recommend you lean going to head down I recommend you lean going to head down I recommend you lean backwards to go in backwards so you want backwards to go in backwards so you want backwards to go in backwards so you want the back of your head to get wet before the back of your head to get wet before the back of your head to get wet before your face was so you're leaning your face was so you're leaning your face was so you're leaning backwards to head done backwards to head done backwards to head done some people will head dunk immediately some people will head dunk immediately some people will head dunk immediately upon entering because it really drives upon entering because it really drives upon entering because it really drives home that fight-or-plate response and home that fight-or-plate response and home that fight-or-plate response and activates them some people like me I activates them some people like me I activates them some people like me I like to end my eye stock with a head like to end my eye stock with a head like to end my eye stock with a head dunk and I'll be honest it's only going dunk and I'll be honest it's only going dunk and I'll be honest it's only going to be on a hair wash day I'm not going to be on a hair wash day I'm not going to be on a hair wash day I'm not going to do this every time always to do with to do this every time always to do with to do this every time always to do with the hair but if I had dunk it's going to the hair but if I had dunk it's going to the hair but if I had dunk it's going to be at the end of my practice I just
31:00be at the end of my practice I just be at the end of my practice I just clogged my nose I lean back I stay under clogged my nose I lean back I stay under clogged my nose I lean back I stay under for as long as I feel called when I get for as long as I feel called when I get for as long as I feel called when I get out out out a couple of things to remember about a couple of things to remember about a couple of things to remember about this you want to keep your eyes closed this you want to keep your eyes closed this you want to keep your eyes closed if that water is 32 to 33 degrees you if that water is 32 to 33 degrees you if that water is 32 to 33 degrees you don't want to freeze your eyeballs so don't want to freeze your eyeballs so don't want to freeze your eyeballs so keep your eyes closed number two keep your eyes closed number two keep your eyes closed number two um trust your body um trust your body um trust your body check in what do you need I love a head check in what do you need I love a head check in what do you need I love a head dunk because I feel so balanced like it dunk because I feel so balanced like it dunk because I feel so balanced like it just feels like the icing on the cake just feels like the icing on the cake just feels like the icing on the cake for me I I was so scared of it for the for me I I was so scared of it for the for me I I was so scared of it for the first few years that I was Ice bathing first few years that I was Ice bathing first few years that I was Ice bathing but once I did it I was like oh my God but once I did it I was like oh my God but once I did it I was like oh my God not only is that no big deal but holy not only is that no big deal but holy not only is that no big deal but holy cow feels amazing cow feels amazing cow feels amazing keeping in mind now people are really keeping in mind now people are really keeping in mind now people are really excited about using a snorkel and excited about using a snorkel and excited about using a snorkel and keeping their head underneath for like keeping their head underneath for like keeping their head underneath for like at a time I've seen this again I will at a time I've seen this again I will at a time I've seen this again I will say build up to that you don't have to say build up to that you don't have to say build up to that you don't have to come out of the gate swinging build up come out of the gate swinging build up come out of the gate swinging build up to that and build up slowly to that so to that and build up slowly to that so to that and build up slowly to that so when we submerged or had underwater and
32:00when we submerged or had underwater and when we submerged or had underwater and it's freezing water and we're breathing it's freezing water and we're breathing it's freezing water and we're breathing you know through our snorkel or a little you know through our snorkel or a little you know through our snorkel or a little straw or whatever it is we have you can straw or whatever it is we have you can straw or whatever it is we have you can activate DMT within the brain which can activate DMT within the brain which can activate DMT within the brain which can feel really amazing but you know what be feel really amazing but you know what be feel really amazing but you know what be careful yeah if the such thing as too careful yeah if the such thing as too careful yeah if the such thing as too much of a good thing and this is a much of a good thing and this is a much of a good thing and this is a minimum effective dose practice get in minimum effective dose practice get in minimum effective dose practice get in get what you need and get out yeah is get what you need and get out yeah is get what you need and get out yeah is this two minutes daily or is it taking this two minutes daily or is it taking this two minutes daily or is it taking days off I know huberman put out days off I know huberman put out days off I know huberman put out something like 11 minutes per week is something like 11 minutes per week is something like 11 minutes per week is kind of the minimum effective dose what kind of the minimum effective dose what kind of the minimum effective dose what are your thoughts this is such an individual practice Yeah this is such an individual practice Yeah no two practices are going to look no two practices are going to look no two practices are going to look exactly alike in each person's practice exactly alike in each person's practice exactly alike in each person's practice can change from one day one week one can change from one day one week one can change from one day one week one month to the next and so one thing I month to the next and so one thing I month to the next and so one thing I love about the practice of deliberate love about the practice of deliberate love about the practice of deliberate cold exposures I believe that it cold exposures I believe that it cold exposures I believe that it reignites that conversation between the reignites that conversation between the reignites that conversation between the brain and the body instead of our monkey brain and the body instead of our monkey brain and the body instead of our monkey mind going like I don't want to work out mind going like I don't want to work out mind going like I don't want to work out and I don't want to deliver close to it and I don't want to deliver close to it and I don't want to deliver close to it I don't want to do all these things all
33:00I don't want to do all these things all I don't want to do all these things all of a sudden we're listening to the of a sudden we're listening to the of a sudden we're listening to the thoughts of the brain in connection with thoughts of the brain in connection with thoughts of the brain in connection with the body like what do I need today the body like what do I need today the body like what do I need today and so I really recommend first checking and so I really recommend first checking and so I really recommend first checking in with yourself head to toe asking what in with yourself head to toe asking what in with yourself head to toe asking what do I need today do I need it today I do do I need today do I need it today I do do I need today do I need it today I do not believe in these multi-day not believe in these multi-day not believe in these multi-day challenges I am not a fan of I'm going challenges I am not a fan of I'm going challenges I am not a fan of I'm going to do an ice bath every day for seven to do an ice bath every day for seven to do an ice bath every day for seven days 30 days 90 days or whatever it is days 30 days 90 days or whatever it is days 30 days 90 days or whatever it is the only thing we need to do every the only thing we need to do every the only thing we need to do every single day is breathe single day is breathe single day is breathe so if I put myself in a position where I so if I put myself in a position where I so if I put myself in a position where I say I'm going to ice bath every single say I'm going to ice bath every single say I'm going to ice bath every single day after the next 7 15 30 whatever days day after the next 7 15 30 whatever days day after the next 7 15 30 whatever days that I'm not listening to what my body that I'm not listening to what my body that I'm not listening to what my body needs I'm just competing with my needs I'm just competing with my needs I'm just competing with my challenges challenges challenges so I think that the best thing that you so I think that the best thing that you so I think that the best thing that you can do is check in with your body and can do is check in with your body and can do is check in with your body and say what do I need say what do I need say what do I need when I was first using this to reverse when I was first using this to reverse when I was first using this to reverse autoimmune it was important for me to autoimmune it was important for me to autoimmune it was important for me to have daily access but it didn't mean I have daily access but it didn't mean I have daily access but it didn't mean I would ask math every day would ask math every day would ask math every day not being sad There were some days I not being sad There were some days I not being sad There were some days I would ice that three four or five times would ice that three four or five times would ice that three four or five times a day if I was going through a b p a day if I was going through a b p a day if I was going through a b p histamine reaction or having a deep histamine reaction or having a deep histamine reaction or having a deep emotional experience because let's be
34:00emotional experience because let's be emotional experience because let's be honest chronic illness we go through so honest chronic illness we go through so honest chronic illness we go through so much mentally and emotionally I knew much mentally and emotionally I knew much mentally and emotionally I knew that the ice back was the answer so if I that the ice back was the answer so if I that the ice back was the answer so if I was in an emotionally dysregulated State was in an emotionally dysregulated State was in an emotionally dysregulated State I couldn't calm down right couldn't drag I couldn't calm down right couldn't drag I couldn't calm down right couldn't drag my stuff out of bed because up here and my stuff out of bed because up here and my stuff out of bed because up here and in my heart it was just too much the ice in my heart it was just too much the ice in my heart it was just too much the ice bath was the answer yeah if I'm working bath was the answer yeah if I'm working bath was the answer yeah if I'm working a metabolic disease more frequent is a metabolic disease more frequent is a metabolic disease more frequent is beneficial but if I only do one ice bath beneficial but if I only do one ice bath beneficial but if I only do one ice bath for my entire life I'm still a changed for my entire life I'm still a changed for my entire life I'm still a changed person person person so think of it as what is your access so think of it as what is your access so think of it as what is your access what is your ability your ability and what is your ability your ability and what is your ability your ability and how can you do it where you're still how can you do it where you're still how can you do it where you're still operating in minimum effective dose yeah operating in minimum effective dose yeah operating in minimum effective dose yeah I love that one piece is physically I love that one piece is physically I love that one piece is physically getting in the ice bath but then there's getting in the ice bath but then there's getting in the ice bath but then there's this other piece of everything that this other piece of everything that this other piece of everything that happens before you get in the ice bath happens before you get in the ice bath happens before you get in the ice bath right this breath work I think maybe the right this breath work I think maybe the right this breath work I think maybe the most common that I've seen at least on most common that I've seen at least on most common that I've seen at least on social media is like a Wim Hof breathing social media is like a Wim Hof breathing social media is like a Wim Hof breathing style but obviously along with moroseco style but obviously along with moroseco style but obviously along with moroseco Forge is the morozco method of what
35:00Forge is the morozco method of what Forge is the morozco method of what happens before you physically immerse happens before you physically immerse happens before you physically immerse yourself yourself yourself I think of it this way when I got I think of it this way when I got I think of it this way when I got started and deliver cold exposure like I started and deliver cold exposure like I started and deliver cold exposure like I said I was on my Woods End I was the said I was on my Woods End I was the said I was on my Woods End I was the sick has started or been sick has started or been sick has started or been and I was doing the wimp wrap work prior and I was doing the wimp wrap work prior and I was doing the wimp wrap work prior to the ice and there were a few things to the ice and there were a few things to the ice and there were a few things that I noticed number one that I noticed number one that I noticed number one it's very active it's very active it's very active holotropic hyperventilator holotropic hyperventilator holotropic hyperventilator and so when I was my sickest sometimes I and so when I was my sickest sometimes I and so when I was my sickest sometimes I just did not have the energy to put into just did not have the energy to put into just did not have the energy to put into a Wim Hoff session yeah also when I was a Wim Hoff session yeah also when I was a Wim Hoff session yeah also when I was at my sickest when I would do a Wim Hof at my sickest when I would do a Wim Hof at my sickest when I would do a Wim Hof session by the time I stood in front of session by the time I stood in front of session by the time I stood in front of the ice bath I was spent I was anxious I the ice bath I was spent I was anxious I the ice bath I was spent I was anxious I was elevated was elevated was elevated and I was looking at the eyes as if it and I was looking at the eyes as if it and I was looking at the eyes as if it was something I needed to compete was something I needed to compete was something I needed to compete against like I've got this I'm getting against like I've got this I'm getting against like I've got this I'm getting this I I can do this and I'm gonna make this I I can do this and I'm gonna make this I I can do this and I'm gonna make this ice my I hope I can cuss here I'm this ice my I hope I can cuss here I'm this ice my I hope I can cuss here I'm gonna make this I slap my gonna make this I slap my gonna make this I slap my that's not how the ice works and that's not how the ice works and that's not how the ice works and especially when I was so sick and I
36:00especially when I was so sick and I especially when I was so sick and I didn't have so much to give I realized didn't have so much to give I realized didn't have so much to give I realized that there were benefits to the Wim hog that there were benefits to the Wim hog that there were benefits to the Wim hog prep work there's so many great benefits prep work there's so many great benefits prep work there's so many great benefits to the Wim hop prep work but it didn't to the Wim hop prep work but it didn't to the Wim hop prep work but it didn't suit the situation that I was in suit the situation that I was in suit the situation that I was in because there's just two steps I didn't because there's just two steps I didn't because there's just two steps I didn't have what it took to really give it my have what it took to really give it my have what it took to really give it my all all all so as I was standing in front of the tub so as I was standing in front of the tub so as I was standing in front of the tub and this is only like my third or fourth and this is only like my third or fourth and this is only like my third or fourth eye style with this like anxiety about eye style with this like anxiety about eye style with this like anxiety about getting into the ice this elevated getting into the ice this elevated getting into the ice this elevated feeling because I just did this wild feeling because I just did this wild feeling because I just did this wild wreck where I was like how am I gonna do wreck where I was like how am I gonna do wreck where I was like how am I gonna do this how am I I can't I'm I'm so this how am I I can't I'm I'm so this how am I I can't I'm I'm so elevated I'm so already there how am I elevated I'm so already there how am I elevated I'm so already there how am I gonna get to the calm to sit in for two gonna get to the calm to sit in for two gonna get to the calm to sit in for two whole minutes whole minutes whole minutes and as I'm standing there staring at the and as I'm standing there staring at the and as I'm standing there staring at the water I'm hearing in my head some water I'm hearing in my head some water I'm hearing in my head some previous practices so like dialectical previous practices so like dialectical previous practices so like dialectical behavioral therapy if you're in an behavioral therapy if you're in an behavioral therapy if you're in an anxious head space you can bring anxious head space you can bring anxious head space you can bring yourself into your body and out of your yourself into your body and out of your yourself into your body and out of your head by engaging your five senses so you head by engaging your five senses so you head by engaging your five senses so you look around you say what can I see look around you say what can I see look around you say what can I see kind of here where can I smell what Can kind of here where can I smell what Can kind of here where can I smell what Can I taste what can I touch and you can I taste what can I touch and you can I taste what can I touch and you can expand on that you can do five things I
37:00expand on that you can do five things I expand on that you can do five things I can see four things I can hear three can see four things I can hear three can see four things I can hear three things I can smell two things I can things I can smell two things I can things I can smell two things I can touch one thing I can taste touch one thing I can taste touch one thing I can taste so we can enhance on that and I'm so we can enhance on that and I'm so we can enhance on that and I'm thinking of that I'm thinking I'm in thinking of that I'm thinking I'm in thinking of that I'm thinking I'm in this anxious state I'm all elevated how this anxious state I'm all elevated how this anxious state I'm all elevated how do I get into the answer and stay in do I get into the answer and stay in do I get into the answer and stay in and that's when I started engaging my and that's when I started engaging my and that's when I started engaging my senses senses senses and I said you know I can't meet this and I said you know I can't meet this and I said you know I can't meet this this is this is when it started to dawn this is this is when it started to dawn this is this is when it started to dawn on me that I'd been living in my life in on me that I'd been living in my life in on me that I'd been living in my life in this like victim mindset always always this like victim mindset always always this like victim mindset always always on the defense always fighting I was on the defense always fighting I was on the defense always fighting I was like I have to lay down the sword like I have to lay down the sword like I have to lay down the sword I have to find a way to surrender to I have to find a way to surrender to I have to find a way to surrender to that fight or flight response that that fight or flight response that that fight or flight response that hyperventilative experience again every hyperventilative experience again every hyperventilative experience again every time I sit in a cold I have to find a time I sit in a cold I have to find a time I sit in a cold I have to find a way to surrender way to surrender way to surrender and if I'm going to surrender how am I and if I'm going to surrender how am I and if I'm going to surrender how am I going to do that well for one I'm going going to do that well for one I'm going going to do that well for one I'm going to get out of my monkey mind I'm going to get out of my monkey mind I'm going to get out of my monkey mind I'm going to bring myself out of my head and into to bring myself out of my head and into to bring myself out of my head and into my body by engaging my senses for two my body by engaging my senses for two my body by engaging my senses for two I'm going to choose deliberate cold I'm going to choose deliberate cold I'm going to choose deliberate cold exposure I am going to put both feet in exposure I am going to put both feet in exposure I am going to put both feet in this top I'm going to sit down I'm going this top I'm going to sit down I'm going this top I'm going to sit down I'm going to breathe
38:00to breathe to breathe and as I started making this my practice and as I started making this my practice and as I started making this my practice and realizing the art of deliberate cold and realizing the art of deliberate cold and realizing the art of deliberate cold exposure was more about the surrender exposure was more about the surrender exposure was more about the surrender and the nurture I realized I didn't need and the nurture I realized I didn't need and the nurture I realized I didn't need this 30 minutes of hyperventilated this 30 minutes of hyperventilated this 30 minutes of hyperventilated polotropic breath work when I needed was polotropic breath work when I needed was polotropic breath work when I needed was mindful present mindful present mindful present so as I was going through this so as I was going through this so as I was going through this experience realizing that you know I was experience realizing that you know I was experience realizing that you know I was having such a great impact on my health having such a great impact on my health having such a great impact on my health it was changing the way that I thought it was changing the way that I thought it was changing the way that I thought it was changing the way that I it was changing the way that I it was changing the way that I interacted with people it was changing interacted with people it was changing interacted with people it was changing me as a person I'm telling anyone who me as a person I'm telling anyone who me as a person I'm telling anyone who will listen about my experience a nice will listen about my experience a nice will listen about my experience a nice fast and people are intrigued so I'm fast and people are intrigued so I'm fast and people are intrigued so I'm like come over I'll walk you through it like come over I'll walk you through it like come over I'll walk you through it I'll use the technique that I use and I'll use the technique that I use and I'll use the technique that I use and I'll walk you through it I'll walk you through it I'll walk you through it August of 2019 we brought a nice bath to August of 2019 we brought a nice bath to August of 2019 we brought a nice bath to burning man I coached hundreds of people burning man I coached hundreds of people burning man I coached hundreds of people across like 12 or 14 days it was a across like 12 or 14 days it was a across like 12 or 14 days it was a really long time and it was several really long time and it was several really long time and it was several hours a day and it was hundreds of hours a day and it was hundreds of hours a day and it was hundreds of people people people not only am I showing people how to meet not only am I showing people how to meet not only am I showing people how to meet this extreme experience with a calm this extreme experience with a calm
39:00this extreme experience with a calm meditative mindset but I can't be the meditative mindset but I can't be the meditative mindset but I can't be the only one doing this I can't guide only one doing this I can't guide only one doing this I can't guide everyone in the world's first ice that everyone in the world's first ice that everyone in the world's first ice that so I had to turn this into a training so I had to turn this into a training so I had to turn this into a training program so that I could certify other program so that I could certify other program so that I could certify other people to use this method people to use this method people to use this method to help guide and introduce people to to help guide and introduce people to to help guide and introduce people to the cold the cold the cold so the morozco method is a sensory so the morozco method is a sensory so the morozco method is a sensory immersive mindful meditation used to immersive mindful meditation used to immersive mindful meditation used to move through the fight-or-flight move through the fight-or-flight move through the fight-or-flight response with calm mindset response with calm mindset response with calm mindset beauty of the merozco method is that you beauty of the merozco method is that you beauty of the merozco method is that you can use an inviter flight while you're can use an inviter flight while you're can use an inviter flight while you're sitting in an ice bath but you can also sitting in an ice bath but you can also sitting in an ice bath but you can also use it when freaking out in traffic you use it when freaking out in traffic you use it when freaking out in traffic you can also use it if you're sitting in a can also use it if you're sitting in a can also use it if you're sitting in a board room about to give a big board room about to give a big board room about to give a big presentation you can use it if you're presentation you can use it if you're presentation you can use it if you're standing on stage standing on stage standing on stage and you're nervous about speaking to and you're nervous about speaking to and you're nervous about speaking to thousands of people you can use this in thousands of people you can use this in thousands of people you can use this in the middle of a difficult romantic the middle of a difficult romantic the middle of a difficult romantic conversation you can use this when conversation you can use this when conversation you can use this when dealing with a teenager or a toddler dealing with a teenager or a toddler dealing with a teenager or a toddler you can use this Murrells go method you can use this Murrells go method you can use this Murrells go method guided meditation to bring yourself to a guided meditation to bring yourself to a guided meditation to bring yourself to a point of calm set calm centered point of calm set calm centered point of calm set calm centered surrender surrender surrender at any time and my favorite tools are
40:00at any time and my favorite tools are at any time and my favorite tools are the ones that you can take with you the ones that you can take with you the ones that you can take with you anywhere you can go and don't cost a anywhere you can go and don't cost a anywhere you can go and don't cost a thing thing thing so using mindset to get through so using mindset to get through so using mindset to get through was essential for me and I love I love was essential for me and I love I love was essential for me and I love I love everything he does I call him the Yang I everything he does I call him the Yang I everything he does I call him the Yang I call me the yin he's the dad I'm the mom call me the yin he's the dad I'm the mom call me the yin he's the dad I'm the mom that man energy I got the feminine that man energy I got the feminine that man energy I got the feminine energy yeah can you share because I'm energy yeah can you share because I'm energy yeah can you share because I'm sure women are like what is it tell me sure women are like what is it tell me sure women are like what is it tell me what it is can you share just a little what it is can you share just a little what it is can you share just a little Glimpse or maybe one of the tools that Glimpse or maybe one of the tools that Glimpse or maybe one of the tools that you teach in the morozco method yeah so you teach in the morozco method yeah so you teach in the morozco method yeah so the number one goal the number one goal the number one goal is the way that we meet the cult we want is the way that we meet the cult we want is the way that we meet the cult we want to meet the cold with a calm mindset and to meet the cold with a calm mindset and to meet the cold with a calm mindset and action so if we're going in we're action so if we're going in we're action so if we're going in we're getting out we're going calm there's no getting out we're going calm there's no getting out we're going calm there's no there's no there's no there's no um freaking out there's no jumping out um freaking out there's no jumping out um freaking out there's no jumping out or jumping in it's all very calm and or jumping in it's all very calm and or jumping in it's all very calm and intentional we start with setting an intentional we start with setting an intentional we start with setting an intention intention intention what is my intention my intention comes what is my intention my intention comes what is my intention my intention comes from a place that says I already am so
41:00from a place that says I already am so from a place that says I already am so if I send intention I want to say I am if I send intention I want to say I am if I send intention I want to say I am healing not I want to heal or I'm going healing not I want to heal or I'm going healing not I want to heal or I'm going to heal I'm not going to send an to heal I'm not going to send an to heal I'm not going to send an intention that says I'm going to heal so intention that says I'm going to heal so intention that says I'm going to heal so that I'm there for my friends and my that I'm there for my friends and my that I'm there for my friends and my family and I'm like no make this about family and I'm like no make this about family and I'm like no make this about you you you I am healing that's my favorite one I I am healing that's my favorite one I I am healing that's my favorite one I use it almost every time I am healing so use it almost every time I am healing so use it almost every time I am healing so we set Our intention we speak it out we set Our intention we speak it out we set Our intention we speak it out loud at least three times I want my loud at least three times I want my loud at least three times I want my subconscious to hear this in my voice I subconscious to hear this in my voice I subconscious to hear this in my voice I am healing am healing am healing I am I am I am healing healing healing by the third time I say that I'm really by the third time I say that I'm really by the third time I say that I'm really driving at home and as I'm standing next driving at home and as I'm standing next driving at home and as I'm standing next to the top I'm getting in touch with my to the top I'm getting in touch with my to the top I'm getting in touch with my brat brat brat I want to make sure I'm breathing into I want to make sure I'm breathing into I want to make sure I'm breathing into my belly not my chest my belly not my chest my belly not my chest and I'll put my hand on my chest I'll and I'll put my hand on my chest I'll and I'll put my hand on my chest I'll put my hand on my belly to make sure put my hand on my belly to make sure put my hand on my belly to make sure what's expanding as I inhale what's expanding as I inhale what's expanding as I inhale how can I focus on that inhale because how can I focus on that inhale because how can I focus on that inhale because when I'm in the tub and I'm when I'm in the tub and I'm when I'm in the tub and I'm hyperventilating which after a while hyperventilating which after a while hyperventilating which after a while goes away but if I'm in the tub and I'm goes away but if I'm in the tub and I'm goes away but if I'm in the tub and I'm hyperventilating I'm focused on that hyperventilating I'm focused on that hyperventilating I'm focused on that exhale I'm
42:00exhale I'm exhale I'm and so what I'm practicing before I get and so what I'm practicing before I get and so what I'm practicing before I get in is how to deep inhale into the belly in is how to deep inhale into the belly in is how to deep inhale into the belly and have an easy exhale and have an easy exhale and have an easy exhale when I step in I step in with full when I step in I step in with full when I step in I step in with full mindful intention when I sit down I do mindful intention when I sit down I do mindful intention when I sit down I do it without hesitation I lean back I drop it without hesitation I lean back I drop it without hesitation I lean back I drop my arms I still breathe my arms I still breathe my arms I still breathe now the merozco method is intended to be now the merozco method is intended to be now the merozco method is intended to be used for the guide but I have certified used for the guide but I have certified used for the guide but I have certified guides throughout the world you may not guides throughout the world you may not guides throughout the world you may not have access to one but you do have have access to one but you do have have access to one but you do have access to my meditation videos If you go access to my meditation videos If you go access to my meditation videos If you go to YouTube or else go porch meditation to YouTube or else go porch meditation to YouTube or else go porch meditation playlist you can just press play playlist you can just press play playlist you can just press play whether you want a two minute three whether you want a two minute three whether you want a two minute three minute four minute or five minute ice minute four minute or five minute ice minute four minute or five minute ice bath or if you want something focused on bath or if you want something focused on bath or if you want something focused on healing or letting go just press play healing or letting go just press play healing or letting go just press play set your intention set your scene set your intention set your scene set your intention set your scene create a scene of ceremony turn this create a scene of ceremony turn this create a scene of ceremony turn this into another Journey that you get to into another Journey that you get to into another Journey that you get to experience in life where you surround it experience in life where you surround it experience in life where you surround it with ceremony with ceremony with ceremony give yourself the lighting the sounds give yourself the lighting the sounds give yourself the lighting the sounds the smells that are all going to ignite the smells that are all going to ignite the smells that are all going to ignite the brain to say okay it's time to the brain to say okay it's time to the brain to say okay it's time to prepare prepare prepare I recognize that smell because every
43:00I recognize that smell because every I recognize that smell because every time I smell that smell Adrian steps in time I smell that smell Adrian steps in time I smell that smell Adrian steps in the ice the ice so we're creating a scene that is also so we're creating a scene that is also so we're creating a scene that is also preparing us for before we ever even get preparing us for before we ever even get preparing us for before we ever even get in in in when we do decide to step out we don't when we do decide to step out we don't when we do decide to step out we don't reach for the towel we don't curl into reach for the towel we don't curl into reach for the towel we don't curl into ourselves say I can't do this I can't ourselves say I can't do this I can't ourselves say I can't do this I can't stand up We Stand Tall in a power pose stand up We Stand Tall in a power pose stand up We Stand Tall in a power pose so our feet are wider than hips or hands so our feet are wider than hips or hands so our feet are wider than hips or hands or in fists on our hips with our thumbs or in fists on our hips with our thumbs or in fists on our hips with our thumbs pointing behind us pointing behind us pointing behind us chest is out shoulders are back chin is chest is out shoulders are back chin is chest is out shoulders are back chin is up up and you breathe that way after you get and you breathe that way after you get and you breathe that way after you get out of the ice bath you breathe in power out of the ice bath you breathe in power out of the ice bath you breathe in power pose until everything is calm again pose until everything is calm again pose until everything is calm again you're allowing your body's cold shock you're allowing your body's cold shock you're allowing your body's cold shock protein to do the work your vascular protein to do the work your vascular protein to do the work your vascular system to do the work to warm you back system to do the work to warm you back system to do the work to warm you back up up so we say that if you meet the cold with so we say that if you meet the cold with so we say that if you meet the cold with stoicism and Grace it will bestow great stoicism and Grace it will bestow great stoicism and Grace it will bestow great gifts upon you gifts upon you gifts upon you if I meet the cold with this deliberate if I meet the cold with this deliberate if I meet the cold with this deliberate intention in this mindset intention in this mindset intention in this mindset it will bestow great gifts upon me it will bestow great gifts upon me it will bestow great gifts upon me but if you need a little help you can but if you need a little help you can but if you need a little help you can use those online meditations I will be
44:00use those online meditations I will be use those online meditations I will be releasing some brand new ones soon I've releasing some brand new ones soon I've releasing some brand new ones soon I've got a little over 10 new meditations got a little over 10 new meditations got a little over 10 new meditations coming out very soon so keep an eye out coming out very soon so keep an eye out coming out very soon so keep an eye out for that I looked at a few of the videos for that I looked at a few of the videos for that I looked at a few of the videos yesterday they're turning out really yesterday they're turning out really yesterday they're turning out really well so I'm excited and in these new well so I'm excited and in these new well so I'm excited and in these new meditations meditations meditations it'll be a series it'll be a series it'll be a series you can start at the top and work your you can start at the top and work your you can start at the top and work your way all the way through the series in way all the way through the series in way all the way through the series in order to move through grief order to move through grief order to move through grief trauma processing trauma processing trauma processing any type of healing any type of healing any type of healing or just a little bit of help to get you or just a little bit of help to get you or just a little bit of help to get you through that vital reply response in the through that vital reply response in the through that vital reply response in the cold cold cold I love it I can't wait to turn one of I love it I can't wait to turn one of I love it I can't wait to turn one of those on the next time I get in I I got those on the next time I get in I I got those on the next time I get in I I got a a a very inexpensive new recover it it fell very inexpensive new recover it it fell very inexpensive new recover it it fell apart after the first week but we apart after the first week but we apart after the first week but we patched it up just to see if this was patched it up just to see if this was patched it up just to see if this was something that I wanted to bring into my something that I wanted to bring into my something that I wanted to bring into my life before making an investment I have life before making an investment I have life before making an investment I have a quick question a quick question a quick question bringing the moroseco forge to birdie bringing the moroseco forge to birdie bringing the moroseco forge to birdie man was that the ultimate test of like
45:00man was that the ultimate test of like man was that the ultimate test of like okay do our water filters really hold up okay do our water filters really hold up okay do our water filters really hold up and is this ozonator the bomb a hundred and is this ozonator the bomb a hundred and is this ozonator the bomb a hundred percent I'll tell you we were the only percent I'll tell you we were the only percent I'll tell you we were the only ones drinking ice cold champagne on uh ones drinking ice cold champagne on uh ones drinking ice cold champagne on uh the last day of the burn because we just the last day of the burn because we just the last day of the burn because we just started putting the champagne in the in started putting the champagne in the in started putting the champagne in the in the ice bath but also on alkaline dust the ice bath but also on alkaline dust the ice bath but also on alkaline dust out at the Black Rock uh the dust out of out at the Black Rock uh the dust out of out at the Black Rock uh the dust out of the Black Rock Desert is alkaline and so the Black Rock Desert is alkaline and so the Black Rock Desert is alkaline and so when we're real sweaty we're acidic when we're real sweaty we're acidic when we're real sweaty we're acidic those two things mixed together created those two things mixed together created those two things mixed together created perfect 7 pH the entire time now that perfect 7 pH the entire time now that perfect 7 pH the entire time now that dust is also powder fine so those dust is also powder fine so those dust is also powder fine so those particular it's never fully go through particular it's never fully go through particular it's never fully go through our system so the water could look a our system so the water could look a our system so the water could look a little gray or cloudy but that's just little gray or cloudy but that's just little gray or cloudy but that's just the dust floating it was still a the dust floating it was still a the dust floating it was still a perfectly uh filtered we've done it perfectly uh filtered we've done it perfectly uh filtered we've done it three times now bringing Ice Fast to three times now bringing Ice Fast to three times now bringing Ice Fast to Burning Man three years Burning Man three years Burning Man three years um and yeah that filtration system kicks um and yeah that filtration system kicks um and yeah that filtration system kicks that's amazing that's amazing that's amazing I dropped something on Instagram and had I dropped something on Instagram and had I dropped something on Instagram and had people ask some questions and one of the people ask some questions and one of the people ask some questions and one of the questions that came in was after I do a questions that came in was after I do a questions that came in was after I do a cold exposure I get really sleepy and I
46:00cold exposure I get really sleepy and I cold exposure I get really sleepy and I need to take a three hour nap need to take a three hour nap need to take a three hour nap which I think is an interesting response which I think is an interesting response which I think is an interesting response what what would be your thoughts around what what would be your thoughts around what what would be your thoughts around that that that yeah so when we first started this yeah so when we first started this yeah so when we first started this practice or really any time we're going practice or really any time we're going practice or really any time we're going through this practice when you take an through this practice when you take an through this practice when you take an ice bath your lymphatic system will do a ice bath your lymphatic system will do a ice bath your lymphatic system will do a full flush full flush full flush this is more effective more powerful this is more effective more powerful this is more effective more powerful than a lymphatic massage you're doing a than a lymphatic massage you're doing a than a lymphatic massage you're doing a complete flush of your lymphatic system complete flush of your lymphatic system complete flush of your lymphatic system keeping in mind that our lymphatic keeping in mind that our lymphatic keeping in mind that our lymphatic system stores every medication we've system stores every medication we've system stores every medication we've ever taken every disease we've ever ever taken every disease we've ever ever taken every disease we've ever experienced and all of the toxicity in experienced and all of the toxicity in experienced and all of the toxicity in our system so when we start this our system so when we start this our system so when we start this practice and we're going through this practice and we're going through this practice and we're going through this practice and it makes us really tired practice and it makes us really tired practice and it makes us really tired that's a detoxification process you can that's a detoxification process you can that's a detoxification process you can also feel those kind of Keto flu-like also feel those kind of Keto flu-like also feel those kind of Keto flu-like symptoms when you're new to this symptoms when you're new to this symptoms when you're new to this practice because of the detoxification practice because of the detoxification practice because of the detoxification so the best advice I can give you if so the best advice I can give you if so the best advice I can give you if that's what you're experiencing drink that's what you're experiencing drink that's what you're experiencing drink lots of water lots of water lots of water so much water I'm not a fan of so much water I'm not a fan of so much water I'm not a fan of electrolyte supplements lmnt is about electrolyte supplements lmnt is about electrolyte supplements lmnt is about the only one that I'll go for because I
47:00the only one that I'll go for because I the only one that I'll go for because I know every ingredient that goes in it know every ingredient that goes in it know every ingredient that goes in it but more often than not I add Himalayan but more often than not I add Himalayan but more often than not I add Himalayan salt and lemon to my water this helps salt and lemon to my water this helps salt and lemon to my water this helps with that detoxification process if you with that detoxification process if you with that detoxification process if you can drink room temperature water in the can drink room temperature water in the can drink room temperature water in the morning with half a lemon squeezed in it morning with half a lemon squeezed in it morning with half a lemon squeezed in it and a Sprinkle of Himalayan salt you are and a Sprinkle of Himalayan salt you are and a Sprinkle of Himalayan salt you are setting your body up for success for the setting your body up for success for the setting your body up for success for the day day day if you're doing that on an empty stomach if you're doing that on an empty stomach if you're doing that on an empty stomach person in the morning so if cold is person in the morning so if cold is person in the morning so if cold is making you tired give yourself Grace making you tired give yourself Grace making you tired give yourself Grace hydrate hydrate hydrate and look at hydrate hydrate hydrate and look at hydrate hydrate hydrate and look at maybe getting some blood work done to maybe getting some blood work done to maybe getting some blood work done to see if there are any supplements that see if there are any supplements that see if there are any supplements that may benefit this detoxification process may benefit this detoxification process may benefit this detoxification process in your system or may benefit some of in your system or may benefit some of in your system or may benefit some of that supplement support that you might that supplement support that you might that supplement support that you might need so need so need so um there's there's all kinds of ways to um there's there's all kinds of ways to um there's there's all kinds of ways to do this but it's it's a good idea to do this but it's it's a good idea to do this but it's it's a good idea to know exactly what supplements your body know exactly what supplements your body know exactly what supplements your body is asking for yeah that's an interesting is asking for yeah that's an interesting is asking for yeah that's an interesting perspective because my first thought perspective because my first thought perspective because my first thought process was like oh maybe she's kind of process was like oh maybe she's kind of process was like oh maybe she's kind of just getting into the ice bath and not just getting into the ice bath and not just getting into the ice bath and not bringing her nervous system into a calm bringing her nervous system into a calm bringing her nervous system into a calm State maybe she's kind of getting too
48:00State maybe she's kind of getting too State maybe she's kind of getting too much fight or flight activation and then much fight or flight activation and then much fight or flight activation and then crashing afterwards crashing afterwards crashing afterwards um but so I love that that lymphatic um but so I love that that lymphatic um but so I love that that lymphatic perspective perspective perspective yeah but it is definitely energetic and yeah but it is definitely energetic and yeah but it is definitely energetic and that can take a lot out of us especially that can take a lot out of us especially that can take a lot out of us especially as an emotional process you know if we as an emotional process you know if we as an emotional process you know if we go through we had that grief experience go through we had that grief experience go through we had that grief experience or you know this is not surprising but or you know this is not surprising but or you know this is not surprising but you take an ice bath and sometimes it you take an ice bath and sometimes it you take an ice bath and sometimes it brings things up and we're kind of brings things up and we're kind of brings things up and we're kind of cleaning house more than just an oral cleaning house more than just an oral cleaning house more than just an oral lymphatic system but like in our heart lymphatic system but like in our heart lymphatic system but like in our heart system yeah you know well that makes system yeah you know well that makes system yeah you know well that makes sense but typically I think sense but typically I think sense but typically I think detoxification yeah can you share what detoxification yeah can you share what detoxification yeah can you share what you would do after so you shared a you would do after so you shared a you would do after so you shared a little bit right like this power pose little bit right like this power pose little bit right like this power pose when I was first doing when I was first doing when I was first doing um ice baths I would get out and I run um ice baths I would get out and I run um ice baths I would get out and I run and go take a hot shower and I was like and go take a hot shower and I was like and go take a hot shower and I was like this is probably not what I'm supposed this is probably not what I'm supposed this is probably not what I'm supposed to be doing what would you recommend are to be doing what would you recommend are to be doing what would you recommend are you supposed to like shiver it out you supposed to like shiver it out you supposed to like shiver it out should you you know what do you should you you know what do you should you you know what do you recommend so I want my body to do the recommend so I want my body to do the recommend so I want my body to do the work yeah even when I'm contrasting I work yeah even when I'm contrasting I work yeah even when I'm contrasting I love a good contrast session where it's love a good contrast session where it's love a good contrast session where it's ice and sauna and ice and sauna couple ice and sauna and ice and sauna couple ice and sauna and ice and sauna couple of things you want to remember if you're of things you want to remember if you're of things you want to remember if you're going from cold water to hot water both
49:00going from cold water to hot water both going from cold water to hot water both of those are vasoconstriction of those are vasoconstriction of those are vasoconstriction so both of those are going to squeeze so both of those are going to squeeze so both of those are going to squeeze and constrict your vascular system and constrict your vascular system and constrict your vascular system I mean we're going from cold water to I mean we're going from cold water to I mean we're going from cold water to hot sauna we're getting a constriction hot sauna we're getting a constriction hot sauna we're getting a constriction and a dilation so that's going to give and a dilation so that's going to give and a dilation so that's going to give you the full push-up workout for your you the full push-up workout for your you the full push-up workout for your vascular system so it's important first vascular system so it's important first vascular system so it's important first of all to think what method am I using of all to think what method am I using of all to think what method am I using now there's nothing wrong with this but now there's nothing wrong with this but now there's nothing wrong with this but you could feel light headed a little you could feel light headed a little you could feel light headed a little sooner if you're going from cold to if sooner if you're going from cold to if sooner if you're going from cold to if you're going water to water you could you're going water to water you could you're going water to water you could feel a little more light-headed it could feel a little more light-headed it could feel a little more light-headed it could be a little more depleting because we're be a little more depleting because we're be a little more depleting because we're still just pushing all the toxins out of still just pushing all the toxins out of still just pushing all the toxins out of the system we're not getting that full the system we're not getting that full the system we're not getting that full push-up push-up push-up on but I am a big fan of letting your on but I am a big fan of letting your on but I am a big fan of letting your body do the work so I'm not going to body do the work so I'm not going to body do the work so I'm not going to rely on Asana or a shower or a hot tub rely on Asana or a shower or a hot tub rely on Asana or a shower or a hot tub or a bath to warm me up I want to give or a bath to warm me up I want to give or a bath to warm me up I want to give myself at least three to five minutes myself at least three to five minutes myself at least three to five minutes for my body to activate those cold chalk for my body to activate those cold chalk for my body to activate those cold chalk proteins from my vascular system to do proteins from my vascular system to do proteins from my vascular system to do its job for my body to warm itself up
50:00its job for my body to warm itself up its job for my body to warm itself up so I don't want to rely on a hot shower so I don't want to rely on a hot shower so I don't want to rely on a hot shower or hot tub or hot sauna to stop that or hot tub or hot sauna to stop that or hot tub or hot sauna to stop that cold process cold process cold process and if I am doing Bowl ideally I'm and if I am doing Bowl ideally I'm and if I am doing Bowl ideally I'm starting on cold and I'm ending on cold starting on cold and I'm ending on cold starting on cold and I'm ending on cold that's how powerful it is that's how powerful it is that's how powerful it is yeah and so same with the heat I don't yeah and so same with the heat I don't yeah and so same with the heat I don't want to come out of a hot tub or a Sonic want to come out of a hot tub or a Sonic want to come out of a hot tub or a Sonic and rely on the cold to cool me off I and rely on the cold to cool me off I and rely on the cold to cool me off I want to give myself three to five want to give myself three to five want to give myself three to five minutes in between those practices to minutes in between those practices to minutes in between those practices to let my body do the work because this is let my body do the work because this is let my body do the work because this is the work our bodies are missing the work our bodies are missing the work our bodies are missing so the work our bodies are craving but so the work our bodies are craving but so the work our bodies are craving but they're not getting because we don't put they're not getting because we don't put they're not getting because we don't put ourselves in these extremes back and ourselves in these extremes back and ourselves in these extremes back and forth like this yeah with it all yeah forth like this yeah with it all yeah forth like this yeah with it all yeah one last question I love this idea of one last question I love this idea of one last question I love this idea of resilience and I resilience and I resilience and I share this message with the Hashi ladies share this message with the Hashi ladies share this message with the Hashi ladies because I think oftentimes we can feel because I think oftentimes we can feel because I think oftentimes we can feel defeated overwhelmed defeated overwhelmed defeated overwhelmed not in a abundance growth mindset almost not in a abundance growth mindset almost not in a abundance growth mindset almost sometimes like a poor me because every
51:00sometimes like a poor me because every sometimes like a poor me because every day feels like such a struggle day feels like such a struggle day feels like such a struggle especially with the fatigue and just especially with the fatigue and just especially with the fatigue and just chronic pain if someone is hesitant chronic pain if someone is hesitant chronic pain if someone is hesitant you're like okay I know this is going to you're like okay I know this is going to you're like okay I know this is going to build this resilience mentally build this resilience mentally build this resilience mentally physically emotionally spiritually but physically emotionally spiritually but physically emotionally spiritually but you know there's always this hesitance you know there's always this hesitance you know there's always this hesitance like the hardest part of starting to get like the hardest part of starting to get like the hardest part of starting to get into the cold plunge is the thought of into the cold plunge is the thought of into the cold plunge is the thought of doing it right and then sometimes I find doing it right and then sometimes I find doing it right and then sometimes I find myself like delaying through the damn myself like delaying through the damn myself like delaying through the damn like oh yeah I'll do it after the kids like oh yeah I'll do it after the kids like oh yeah I'll do it after the kids come home before the kids come home come home before the kids come home come home before the kids come home around lunch how do you get people over around lunch how do you get people over around lunch how do you get people over that hump that hump that hump well we start by accepting it well we start by accepting it well we start by accepting it we start by accepting this is we start by accepting this is we start by accepting this is uncomfortable uncomfortable uncomfortable this is going to cause likely this is going to cause likely this is going to cause likely hyperventilation hyperventilation hyperventilation I don't practice deliberate cold I don't practice deliberate cold I don't practice deliberate cold exposure because I love it I practice exposure because I love it I practice exposure because I love it I practice because my life depends on it because my life depends on it because my life depends on it and if I'm looking for that instant and if I'm looking for that instant and if I'm looking for that instant reset that two minutes reset that two minutes reset that two minutes it's two minutes it's not a workout it's two minutes it's not a workout it's two minutes it's not a workout it's not a yoga class I'm not going I'm
52:00it's not a yoga class I'm not going I'm it's not a yoga class I'm not going I'm not going anywhere it's just right there not going anywhere it's just right there not going anywhere it's just right there it's two minutes it's two minutes it's two minutes if on the other side of that two minutes if on the other side of that two minutes if on the other side of that two minutes you decide oh it's not for me I don't you decide oh it's not for me I don't you decide oh it's not for me I don't ever need to do this again fine don't do ever need to do this again fine don't do ever need to do this again fine don't do it again it again it again but try it once and we all get that but try it once and we all get that but try it once and we all get that mindset I host a monthly women's call mindset I host a monthly women's call mindset I host a monthly women's call for women in ice just yesterday we were for women in ice just yesterday we were for women in ice just yesterday we were talking about it I'm five years into talking about it I'm five years into talking about it I'm five years into this practice I still stand in front of this practice I still stand in front of this practice I still stand in front of that ice spot and question my entire that ice spot and question my entire that ice spot and question my entire existence existence existence but I don't let that stop me from but I don't let that stop me from but I don't let that stop me from getting to the healing on the other side getting to the healing on the other side getting to the healing on the other side I accept it's uncomfortable I don't want I accept it's uncomfortable I don't want I accept it's uncomfortable I don't want to do it and I know what's good for me to do it and I know what's good for me to do it and I know what's good for me so I'm going to do it so I'm going to do it so I'm going to do it we don't we don't build muscle without we don't we don't build muscle without we don't we don't build muscle without first ripping and tearing the tissue first ripping and tearing the tissue first ripping and tearing the tissue growth comes from discomfort growth comes from discomfort growth comes from discomfort discomfort has to be part of the process discomfort has to be part of the process discomfort has to be part of the process when we have chronic illness like when we have chronic illness like when we have chronic illness like Hashimoto's we're inundated with so much Hashimoto's we're inundated with so much Hashimoto's we're inundated with so much discomfort we think I cannot add one discomfort we think I cannot add one discomfort we think I cannot add one more spoon or one more layer of more spoon or one more layer of more spoon or one more layer of discomfort discomfort discomfort I've had my fill
53:00I've had my fill I've had my fill well when you've had your fill the ice well when you've had your fill the ice well when you've had your fill the ice is the answer when you've had your fill is the answer when you've had your fill is the answer when you've had your fill and you're ready to be done with chronic and you're ready to be done with chronic and you're ready to be done with chronic pain chronic illness fatigue all of it pain chronic illness fatigue all of it pain chronic illness fatigue all of it there's the answer there's the answer there's the answer and if you try and it doesn't work for and if you try and it doesn't work for and if you try and it doesn't work for you okay tell me about that reach out to you okay tell me about that reach out to you okay tell me about that reach out to me individually I'd love to know I've me individually I'd love to know I've me individually I'd love to know I've guided thousands of ice bounce at this guided thousands of ice bounce at this guided thousands of ice bounce at this point only two times has anyone ever point only two times has anyone ever point only two times has anyone ever said to me you know what I'm not going said to me you know what I'm not going said to me you know what I'm not going to do that again to do that again to do that again and they both still had a positive and they both still had a positive and they both still had a positive experience they just crossed off their experience they just crossed off their experience they just crossed off their bucket list and decide if that was bucket list and decide if that was bucket list and decide if that was enough enough enough so the power is in accepting that it's so the power is in accepting that it's so the power is in accepting that it's uncomfortable accepting that we don't uncomfortable accepting that we don't uncomfortable accepting that we don't want to do it or we don't like it or we want to do it or we don't like it or we want to do it or we don't like it or we are afraid of it and then doing it are afraid of it and then doing it are afraid of it and then doing it anyway anyway anyway love it Adrian when where can people love it Adrian when where can people love it Adrian when where can people find you find you find you ah all over the place you guys uh you ah all over the place you guys uh you ah all over the place you guys uh you can go to our website can go to our website can go to our website www.maroteskopforge.com you can reach us
54:00www.maroteskopforge.com you can reach us www.maroteskopforge.com you can reach us by email info morencoforge.com and I by email info morencoforge.com and I by email info morencoforge.com and I encourage questions you guys have encourage questions you guys have encourage questions you guys have questions about your process about where questions about your process about where questions about your process about where you are you want advice you want to talk you are you want advice you want to talk you are you want advice you want to talk about it email I want to talk to you about it email I want to talk to you about it email I want to talk to you uh you can read to me on uh you can read to me on uh you can read to me on instagramforge or at Adrian underscore instagramforge or at Adrian underscore instagramforge or at Adrian underscore jessic I also host two monthly calls one jessic I also host two monthly calls one jessic I also host two monthly calls one strictly for women and deliberate cold strictly for women and deliberate cold strictly for women and deliberate cold Exposure One strictly for anyone who is Exposure One strictly for anyone who is Exposure One strictly for anyone who is interested in delivering cold exposure interested in delivering cold exposure interested in delivering cold exposure as a practice I'm interested in Billing as a practice I'm interested in Billing as a practice I'm interested in Billing these communities across the world these communities across the world these communities across the world because we're still the feud we're still because we're still the feud we're still because we're still the feud we're still the few and it is my mission in life to the few and it is my mission in life to the few and it is my mission in life to shout the healing benefits of the cold shout the healing benefits of the cold shout the healing benefits of the cold from the rooftop so Emily thank you for from the rooftop so Emily thank you for from the rooftop so Emily thank you for having me here today you're helping my having me here today you're helping my having me here today you're helping my dreams come true dreams come true dreams come true and I just encourage you DM me on and I just encourage you DM me on and I just encourage you DM me on Instagram shoot me an email I don't care Instagram shoot me an email I don't care Instagram shoot me an email I don't care reach out let's talk about it reach out let's talk about it reach out let's talk about it we gotta talk about this stuff we gotta talk about this stuff we gotta talk about this stuff Adrian thank you so much such a powerful Adrian thank you so much such a powerful Adrian thank you so much such a powerful transformation that I'm gonna say
55:00transformation that I'm gonna say transformation that I'm gonna say probably the majority of women with an probably the majority of women with an probably the majority of women with an autoimmune disease haven't tried but autoimmune disease haven't tried but autoimmune disease haven't tried but such a hopeful bright light like oh such a hopeful bright light like oh such a hopeful bright light like oh there's this thing that I can try that there's this thing that I can try that there's this thing that I can try that can literally change my life so thank can literally change my life so thank can literally change my life so thank you for sharing yeah and we're not the you for sharing yeah and we're not the you for sharing yeah and we're not the only ones I have a couple of the roadsco only ones I have a couple of the roadsco only ones I have a couple of the roadsco method podcast I have a couple of method podcast I have a couple of method podcast I have a couple of interviews coming out with women who interviews coming out with women who interviews coming out with women who have also reversed Hashimoto's through have also reversed Hashimoto's through have also reversed Hashimoto's through this practice two women one in Texas one this practice two women one in Texas one this practice two women one in Texas one in Florida and they have both reversed in Florida and they have both reversed in Florida and they have both reversed Hashimoto's through this practice so Hashimoto's through this practice so Hashimoto's through this practice so keep an eye out for those new episodes keep an eye out for those new episodes keep an eye out for those new episodes too tremendous and I'll drop all those too tremendous and I'll drop all those too tremendous and I'll drop all those links into the show notes Adrian thank links into the show notes Adrian thank links into the show notes Adrian thank you you're welcome thank you