00:00[Music] so hello this is John Richter with the so hello this is John Richter with the chest freezer full plunge group and chest freezer full plunge group and chest freezer full plunge group and that's my website and my passion has that's my website and my passion has that's my website and my passion has been helping people build chest freezer been helping people build chest freezer been helping people build chest freezer cold plunges because it helps them cold plunges because it helps them cold plunges because it helps them improve their health in an amazing improve their health in an amazing improve their health in an amazing number of ways and I recently had the number of ways and I recently had the number of ways and I recently had the just the great joy and delight of just the great joy and delight of just the great joy and delight of meeting Jessie Coomer who joined our meeting Jessie Coomer who joined our meeting Jessie Coomer who joined our Facebook group a few months ago and I Facebook group a few months ago and I Facebook group a few months ago and I just wanted to chat with Jessie and just wanted to chat with Jessie and just wanted to chat with Jessie and record this video and share it with you record this video and share it with you record this video and share it with you guys because I think Jessie's a pretty guys because I think Jessie's a pretty guys because I think Jessie's a pretty amazing guy and I think would be helpful amazing guy and I think would be helpful amazing guy and I think would be helpful just to get to know a little bit more just to get to know a little bit more just to get to know a little bit more about him and what he's doing about him and what he's doing about him and what he's doing Jessie's been practicing the wim HOF Jessie's been practicing the wim HOF Jessie's been practicing the wim HOF method for the last five years and three method for the last five years and three method for the last five years and three years ago he was in the very first years ago he was in the very first years ago he was in the very first graduating class of the official wim HOF graduating class of the official wim HOF graduating class of the official wim HOF instructor program which is pretty instructor program which is pretty instructor program which is pretty exciting he also practices breathwork exciting he also practices breathwork exciting he also practices breathwork and he's been practicing meditation and
01:00and he's been practicing meditation and and he's been practicing meditation and he has created something called the Mid he has created something called the Mid he has created something called the Mid Western method and he's also the author Western method and he's also the author Western method and he's also the author of the practical guide to cold training of the practical guide to cold training of the practical guide to cold training and I just recently read his book and and I just recently read his book and and I just recently read his book and I'll tell you it's something that I wish I'll tell you it's something that I wish I'll tell you it's something that I wish I would have had when I started this you I would have had when I started this you I would have had when I started this you know I did the wim HOF method with women know I did the wim HOF method with women know I did the wim HOF method with women Austin about five years ago and after Austin about five years ago and after Austin about five years ago and after that I was kind of on my own I stumbled that I was kind of on my own I stumbled that I was kind of on my own I stumbled through it and there were a lot of ups through it and there were a lot of ups through it and there were a lot of ups and a lot of downs I was fortunate and a lot of downs I was fortunate and a lot of downs I was fortunate enough not to have any disastrous or enough not to have any disastrous or enough not to have any disastrous or dangerous missteps but I know that I dangerous missteps but I know that I dangerous missteps but I know that I would certainly be further along with my would certainly be further along with my would certainly be further along with my Cole training and certainly could have Cole training and certainly could have Cole training and certainly could have avoided a lot of really just you know avoided a lot of really just you know avoided a lot of really just you know mistakes and things periods of long mistakes and things periods of long mistakes and things periods of long nothing if I had had your book you know nothing if I had had your book you know nothing if I had had your book you know back then when I started so anyway just back then when I started so anyway just back then when I started so anyway just welcome Jesse I'm glad you could share welcome Jesse I'm glad you could share welcome Jesse I'm glad you could share this time with me yeah thanks so much this time with me yeah thanks so much this time with me yeah thanks so much for having me and it's been a real for having me and it's been a real for having me and it's been a real pleasure reading your book actually I pleasure reading your book actually I pleasure reading your book actually I have had the pleasure of paging through have had the pleasure of paging through have had the pleasure of paging through I've almost finished your book your book I've almost finished your book your book I've almost finished your book your book is a little longer than mine John I but
02:00is a little longer than mine John I but is a little longer than mine John I but I have to say I'm a fan and one of the I have to say I'm a fan and one of the I have to say I'm a fan and one of the things that I keep kept on going through things that I keep kept on going through things that I keep kept on going through this book and I was like yeah I made this book and I was like yeah I made this book and I was like yeah I made this mistake I made this mistake you this mistake I made this mistake you this mistake I made this mistake you know all of these things as I'm reading know all of these things as I'm reading know all of these things as I'm reading through your book you're like I learned through your book you're like I learned through your book you're like I learned this I learned that and so I got to say this I learned that and so I got to say this I learned that and so I got to say my my cold plunge would be my my cold plunge would be my my cold plunge would be maybe the Cadillac of cold plunges had I maybe the Cadillac of cold plunges had I maybe the Cadillac of cold plunges had I had your book so it's it's really been a had your book so it's it's really been a had your book so it's it's really been a great opportunity to exchange knowledge great opportunity to exchange knowledge great opportunity to exchange knowledge getting to know you better getting to know you better getting to know you better yeah likewise well I can also I want to yeah likewise well I can also I want to yeah likewise well I can also I want to acknowledge you too because you've had acknowledge you too because you've had acknowledge you too because you've had your cold plunge up and running for your cold plunge up and running for your cold plunge up and running for about three years now is that right about three years now is that right about three years now is that right right yeah so whenever I knew that I was right yeah so whenever I knew that I was right yeah so whenever I knew that I was going to go out and train with wim and going to go out and train with wim and going to go out and train with wim and it was we were in the first class of it was we were in the first class of it was we were in the first class of women HOF method instructors I didn't women HOF method instructors I didn't women HOF method instructors I didn't know what he was going to have us do you know what he was going to have us do you know what he was going to have us do you know as a week with wim and we had to know as a week with wim and we had to know as a week with wim and we had to prove ourselves that we had mastered prove ourselves that we had mastered prove ourselves that we had mastered these techniques and that we were legit these techniques and that we were legit these techniques and that we were legit and it was especially important to prove and it was especially important to prove and it was especially important to prove ourselves because we were going to be
03:00ourselves because we were going to be ourselves because we were going to be the first group of people certified to the first group of people certified to the first group of people certified to teach wim HOF method so I I was I'm teach wim HOF method so I I was I'm teach wim HOF method so I I was I'm still been around on the the Internet still been around on the the Internet still been around on the the Internet and actually on the wim HOF method and actually on the wim HOF method and actually on the wim HOF method Facebook group and this was back in Facebook group and this was back in Facebook group and this was back in 2014-2015 there was a guy who he all he 2014-2015 there was a guy who he all he 2014-2015 there was a guy who he all he did was he filled up a chest freezer did was he filled up a chest freezer did was he filled up a chest freezer with water turned it on and then got in with water turned it on and then got in with water turned it on and then got in 24 hours later and you know hopefully 24 hours later and you know hopefully 24 hours later and you know hopefully the listeners and the viewers understand the listeners and the viewers understand the listeners and the viewers understand it first of all there's a lot of red it first of all there's a lot of red it first of all there's a lot of red flags just me saying that right right flags just me saying that right right flags just me saying that right right John I'm sure you cringed with with this John I'm sure you cringed with with this John I'm sure you cringed with with this with all of those things but you know with all of those things but you know with all of those things but you know there's a part in your book actually there's a part in your book actually there's a part in your book actually that that discusses how it you know you that that discusses how it you know you that that discusses how it you know you you're blown away at how many people say you're blown away at how many people say you're blown away at how many people say they just fill up a cold you know chest they just fill up a cold you know chest they just fill up a cold you know chest freezer and then it's just hey it works freezer and then it's just hey it works freezer and then it's just hey it works great you know and they don't do great you know and they don't do great you know and they don't do anything to it well right so I I had to anything to it well right so I I had to anything to it well right so I I had to kind of figure this out because I was kind of figure this out because I was kind of figure this out because I was getting all itchy when I tried to do it
04:00getting all itchy when I tried to do it getting all itchy when I tried to do it of course III had fortunately I had the of course III had fortunately I had the of course III had fortunately I had the good sense to unplug the thing whenever good sense to unplug the thing whenever good sense to unplug the thing whenever I got into it because I would like to I got into it because I would like to I got into it because I would like to live you know to see my wim HOF method live you know to see my wim HOF method live you know to see my wim HOF method training but but yeah I filled it up and training but but yeah I filled it up and training but but yeah I filled it up and I started using it for about for about I started using it for about for about I started using it for about for about six months before I trained with wim out six months before I trained with wim out six months before I trained with wim out in the Colorado mountains Inc and in the in the Colorado mountains Inc and in the in the Colorado mountains Inc and in the November of 2016 and and so it was November of 2016 and and so it was November of 2016 and and so it was invaluable because you know I needed to invaluable because you know I needed to invaluable because you know I needed to take that I wanted to take a ice bath take that I wanted to take a ice bath take that I wanted to take a ice bath every single day every single day every single day and the ice was just getting expensive and the ice was just getting expensive and the ice was just getting expensive right right yeah I think I calculated I right right yeah I think I calculated I right right yeah I think I calculated I don't know what your cost of ice is up don't know what your cost of ice is up don't know what your cost of ice is up there in the West down here in Texas it there in the West down here in Texas it there in the West down here in Texas it only takes about four months worth of only takes about four months worth of only takes about four months worth of daily ice to pay for an entire chest daily ice to pay for an entire chest daily ice to pay for an entire chest freezer setup oh yeah yeah I was paying freezer setup oh yeah yeah I was paying freezer setup oh yeah yeah I was paying $25 a day price so $25 per ice bath and $25 a day price so $25 per ice bath and $25 a day price so $25 per ice bath and you know that adds up really fast so you know that adds up really fast so you know that adds up really fast so right just a few weeks and well Jesse right just a few weeks and well Jesse right just a few weeks and well Jesse what inspired you originally to get into
05:00what inspired you originally to get into what inspired you originally to get into this Cole training what you know what this Cole training what you know what this Cole training what you know what originally was that catalyst that said originally was that catalyst that said originally was that catalyst that said hey I'm gonna take this wim HOF method hey I'm gonna take this wim HOF method hey I'm gonna take this wim HOF method and then actually later become an and then actually later become an and then actually later become an instructor what was it about that that instructor what was it about that that instructor what was it about that that drew you in the other day I was I was drew you in the other day I was I was drew you in the other day I was I was talking to my wife and she was saying talking to my wife and she was saying talking to my wife and she was saying you know if you went back in time to you know if you went back in time to you know if you went back in time to your you know ten years ago self and your you know ten years ago self and your you know ten years ago self and told him that you would eventually first told him that you would eventually first told him that you would eventually first of all that there was such a thing as of all that there was such a thing as of all that there was such a thing as breath work and that there was such a breath work and that there was such a breath work and that there was such a thing as cold training you know you have thing as cold training you know you have thing as cold training you know you have just rolled your eyes at yourself you just rolled your eyes at yourself you just rolled your eyes at yourself you know we just you know laughed and and know we just you know laughed and and know we just you know laughed and and it's true really these things were just it's true really these things were just it's true really these things were just not something that I were even they not something that I were even they not something that I were even they weren't even on my radar for the longest weren't even on my radar for the longest weren't even on my radar for the longest time and it wasn't until I think was time and it wasn't until I think was time and it wasn't until I think was like 2013 I started meditating and I like 2013 I started meditating and I like 2013 I started meditating and I wasn't very good at it and you know wasn't very good at it and you know wasn't very good at it and you know meditation I always talked about meditation I always talked about meditation I always talked about meditation being the easiest thing in meditation being the easiest thing in meditation being the easiest thing in the world all you have to do is sit the world all you have to do is sit the world all you have to do is sit there and then don't think about there and then don't think about there and then don't think about anything and which is of course I mean
06:00anything and which is of course I mean anything and which is of course I mean it's a joke because it's ridiculous that it's a joke because it's ridiculous that it's a joke because it's ridiculous that as soon as you try not to think about as soon as you try not to think about as soon as you try not to think about something look thoughts are gonna creep something look thoughts are gonna creep something look thoughts are gonna creep in and that's the challenge of in and that's the challenge of in and that's the challenge of meditation and so I was getting into meditation and so I was getting into meditation and so I was getting into certain different kinds of meditative certain different kinds of meditative certain different kinds of meditative practices I was practicing yoga and and practices I was practicing yoga and and practices I was practicing yoga and and there was some breathing associated with there was some breathing associated with there was some breathing associated with that but I was researching I was just that but I was researching I was just that but I was researching I was just kind of flipping through the internet kind of flipping through the internet kind of flipping through the internet one day and I saw an article about wim one day and I saw an article about wim one day and I saw an article about wim HOF and this crazy method and I started HOF and this crazy method and I started HOF and this crazy method and I started it and for the longest time I kind of it and for the longest time I kind of it and for the longest time I kind of kept it to myself because it was just kept it to myself because it was just kept it to myself because it was just this wheat I thought man I'm just this this wheat I thought man I'm just this this wheat I thought man I'm just this weirdo and you know my wife you know weirdo and you know my wife you know weirdo and you know my wife you know she's like are you joining like Internet she's like are you joining like Internet she's like are you joining like Internet cult or cult or cult or and so I but I noticed that I felt and so I but I noticed that I felt and so I but I noticed that I felt better I noticed that I was I was better I noticed that I was I was better I noticed that I was I was happier I had more energy and I didn't happier I had more energy and I didn't happier I had more energy and I didn't know why any of these things were know why any of these things were know why any of these things were happening but I just felt like this was happening but I just felt like this was happening but I just felt like this was really helping me psychologically with really helping me psychologically with really helping me psychologically with stress it was helping me physically and
07:00stress it was helping me physically and stress it was helping me physically and and then of course I think I told you and then of course I think I told you and then of course I think I told you one time that about eight months into it one time that about eight months into it one time that about eight months into it my lifelong seasonal allergies went away my lifelong seasonal allergies went away my lifelong seasonal allergies went away and I was just blown away I was like and I was just blown away I was like and I was just blown away I was like okay that's different and so the so I okay that's different and so the so I okay that's different and so the so I realized there was something to this and realized there was something to this and realized there was something to this and my sister and my brother-in-law at the my sister and my brother-in-law at the my sister and my brother-in-law at the time they were yoga instructors they had time they were yoga instructors they had time they were yoga instructors they had their own studio and they said you know their own studio and they said you know their own studio and they said you know you love this thing so much why don't you love this thing so much why don't you love this thing so much why don't you see if you can go be an instructor you see if you can go be an instructor you see if you can go be an instructor and I was like I don't think that's a and I was like I don't think that's a and I was like I don't think that's a thing you know I I think there's just thing you know I I think there's just thing you know I I think there's just one instructor in his wim HOF and you go one instructor in his wim HOF and you go one instructor in his wim HOF and you go out you know and so I remember he I was out you know and so I remember he I was out you know and so I remember he I was thinking about signing up for one of his thinking about signing up for one of his thinking about signing up for one of his expeditions to the Spanish Pyrenees and expeditions to the Spanish Pyrenees and expeditions to the Spanish Pyrenees and I asked the question hey would this I asked the question hey would this I asked the question hey would this allow me to teach wim HOF method and allow me to teach wim HOF method and allow me to teach wim HOF method and there happened to be a woman in in the
08:00there happened to be a woman in in the there happened to be a woman in in the European group and she was like hey no European group and she was like hey no European group and she was like hey no but this won't let you do that but they but this won't let you do that but they but this won't let you do that but they are they just opened up the very first are they just opened up the very first are they just opened up the very first ever class called the Academy and they ever class called the Academy and they ever class called the Academy and they if you sign up and she sent me a link if you sign up and she sent me a link if you sign up and she sent me a link that you can sign up to be one of the that you can sign up to be one of the that you can sign up to be one of the first ever went off method instructors first ever went off method instructors first ever went off method instructors so it was so I mean I made him I asked a so it was so I mean I made him I asked a so it was so I mean I made him I asked a question on a message board and I question on a message board and I question on a message board and I happened to get a response that led me happened to get a response that led me happened to get a response that led me to a whole new life that has been just to a whole new life that has been just to a whole new life that has been just amazing so I I did the course with wim amazing so I I did the course with wim amazing so I I did the course with wim you get it so it's kind of a was kind of you get it so it's kind of a was kind of you get it so it's kind of a was kind of a longer course right so what is that a longer course right so what is that a longer course right so what is that track to become a trainer track to become a trainer track to become a trainer yeah and now it was different for me yeah and now it was different for me yeah and now it was different for me than it would be for someone if they than it would be for someone if they than it would be for someone if they were to sign up today and I'll tell you were to sign up today and I'll tell you were to sign up today and I'll tell you what the differences are it's not a huge what the differences are it's not a huge what the differences are it's not a huge difference but but back then you know we difference but but back then you know we difference but but back then you know we started off I think was in May of 2016 started off I think was in May of 2016 started off I think was in May of 2016 we got together in los angeles whim took we got together in los angeles whim took we got together in los angeles whim took us through two days of kind of intensive
09:00us through two days of kind of intensive us through two days of kind of intensive training and there was also his actually training and there was also his actually training and there was also his actually who the the man who was a science who the the man who was a science who the the man who was a science teacher who also was just a mentor to me teacher who also was just a mentor to me teacher who also was just a mentor to me is a guy named cast Casper Vander Molen is a guy named cast Casper Vander Molen is a guy named cast Casper Vander Molen and he he explained the science behind and he he explained the science behind and he he explained the science behind the method and just overall the two of the method and just overall the two of the method and just overall the two of them kind of guided us through and gave them kind of guided us through and gave them kind of guided us through and gave us a track as far as okay these are the us a track as far as okay these are the us a track as far as okay these are the things you really need to work on this things you really need to work on this things you really need to work on this is approximately what you should be able is approximately what you should be able is approximately what you should be able to do whenever we meet up in Colorado in to do whenever we meet up in Colorado in to do whenever we meet up in Colorado in November and so you know I went home and November and so you know I went home and November and so you know I went home and I just couldn't believe first of all I I just couldn't believe first of all I I just couldn't believe first of all I couldn't believe I had finally gotten to couldn't believe I had finally gotten to couldn't believe I had finally gotten to meet you know wim HOF himself I never meet you know wim HOF himself I never meet you know wim HOF himself I never thought I would ever get to meet wim off thought I would ever get to meet wim off thought I would ever get to meet wim off right and you know I just got to hang right and you know I just got to hang right and you know I just got to hang out with him you know we played guitar out with him you know we played guitar out with him you know we played guitar and went to the beach and it is like man and went to the beach and it is like man and went to the beach and it is like man this is a dream come true you know and this is a dream come true you know and this is a dream come true you know and so I so we went out to Colorado later
10:00so I so we went out to Colorado later so I so we went out to Colorado later and for the master module and it was a and for the master module and it was a and for the master module and it was a week-long thing where we stayed with wim week-long thing where we stayed with wim week-long thing where we stayed with wim and Casper Evangeline was there with us and Casper Evangeline was there with us and Casper Evangeline was there with us and we had to basically on a daily basis and we had to basically on a daily basis and we had to basically on a daily basis we we learned more about the method more we we learned more about the method more we we learned more about the method more about the science and whatnot but most about the science and whatnot but most about the science and whatnot but most of it was experiencial most of it was of it was experiencial most of it was of it was experiencial most of it was here are your tasks these are the things here are your tasks these are the things here are your tasks these are the things there was always a challenge of the day there was always a challenge of the day there was always a challenge of the day there was a breathwork there was a breathwork there was a breathwork challenge there were all these different challenge there were all these different challenge there were all these different kinds of challenges and they really kinds of challenges and they really kinds of challenges and they really tested us to make sure that first of all tested us to make sure that first of all tested us to make sure that first of all we were competent of course in the we were competent of course in the we were competent of course in the method that we could actually relay this method that we could actually relay this method that we could actually relay this message to other people in a clear way message to other people in a clear way message to other people in a clear way and then also that we were capable and and then also that we were capable and and then also that we were capable and that we actually we weren't just you that we actually we weren't just you that we actually we weren't just you know there's there's the academic know there's there's the academic know there's there's the academic understanding of the method and then understanding of the method and then understanding of the method and then there's the actual do you do you really there's the actual do you do you really there's the actual do you do you really have you internalized it and can you have you internalized it and can you have you internalized it and can you practice it and so I'll never forget one practice it and so I'll never forget one practice it and so I'll never forget one of there are a lot of different things
11:00of there are a lot of different things of there are a lot of different things we did we climbed the mountain barefoot we did we climbed the mountain barefoot we did we climbed the mountain barefoot with wim it was freezing out and with wim it was freezing out and with wim it was freezing out and I mean we did all kinds of crazy stuff I mean we did all kinds of crazy stuff I mean we did all kinds of crazy stuff but though the hardest the craziest time but though the hardest the craziest time but though the hardest the craziest time and the time that I was so glad that I and the time that I was so glad that I and the time that I was so glad that I had been training in my chest freezer had been training in my chest freezer had been training in my chest freezer every day I did a ten-minute ice bath every day I did a ten-minute ice bath every day I did a ten-minute ice bath every single day getting up well I every single day getting up well I every single day getting up well I worked my way up today but really what worked my way up today but really what worked my way up today but really what temperature did you start with and what temperature did you start with and what temperature did you start with and what did you eventually work your way down to did you eventually work your way down to did you eventually work your way down to that's a great question so I started that's a great question so I started that's a great question so I started with and first of all I always started with and first of all I always started with and first of all I always started with I started with just a tub it was a with I started with just a tub it was a with I started with just a tub it was a hundred gallon tub and I would put a hundred gallon tub and I would put a hundred gallon tub and I would put a hundred and twenty gallon or 120 pounds hundred and twenty gallon or 120 pounds hundred and twenty gallon or 120 pounds of ice in it it would bring it down to of ice in it it would bring it down to of ice in it it would bring it down to about 40 degrees and I started with 90 about 40 degrees and I started with 90 about 40 degrees and I started with 90 seconds two minutes three minutes you seconds two minutes three minutes you seconds two minutes three minutes you know I worked my up my way up I worked know I worked my up my way up I worked know I worked my up my way up I worked my lip a little faster maybe then I my lip a little faster maybe then I my lip a little faster maybe then I would recommend the average person dudes would recommend the average person dudes would recommend the average person dudes you know and I was still learning really you know and I was still learning really you know and I was still learning really a lot of this is just I've had to figure a lot of this is just I've had to figure a lot of this is just I've had to figure it out but eventually I got to the point it out but eventually I got to the point it out but eventually I got to the point where I could do ten minutes in 45
12:00where I could do ten minutes in 45 where I could do ten minutes in 45 degrees and then I started working on degrees and then I started working on degrees and then I started working on getting a colder and about the time I getting a colder and about the time I getting a colder and about the time I could do 10 minutes and 45 degrees I could do 10 minutes and 45 degrees I could do 10 minutes and 45 degrees I switched over to the chest freezer now switched over to the chest freezer now switched over to the chest freezer now the nice thing about the chest freezer the nice thing about the chest freezer the nice thing about the chest freezer is that you're not constantly making a is that you're not constantly making a is that you're not constantly making a new ice bath so that's water new ice bath so that's water new ice bath so that's water you know whenever and if anyone with a you know whenever and if anyone with a you know whenever and if anyone with a chest freezer knows that you get that chest freezer knows that you get that chest freezer knows that you get that ice ring around the top that ice can I ice ring around the top that ice can I ice ring around the top that ice can I mean and that water just constantly gets mean and that water just constantly gets mean and that water just constantly gets colder I mean it just stays really cold colder I mean it just stays really cold colder I mean it just stays really cold in it it gets more uniform so if you go in it it gets more uniform so if you go in it it gets more uniform so if you go to a workshop with an ice bath it's to a workshop with an ice bath it's to a workshop with an ice bath it's weird I always kid because it's it's weird I always kid because it's it's weird I always kid because it's it's such a minor difference but the top is such a minor difference but the top is such a minor difference but the top is colder than the bottom in the regular colder than the bottom in the regular colder than the bottom in the regular ice bath because that's where all the ice bath because that's where all the ice bath because that's where all the ice is and we mix it up we try to make ice is and we mix it up we try to make ice is and we mix it up we try to make it as uniform as possible but one of it as uniform as possible but one of it as uniform as possible but one of those chest freezers really that was a those chest freezers really that was a those chest freezers really that was a nice aspect of it because it was far nice aspect of it because it was far nice aspect of it because it was far more uniform and he and so Casper took more uniform and he and so Casper took more uniform and he and so Casper took us out to a like a I mean it was Sub
13:00us out to a like a I mean it was Sub us out to a like a I mean it was Sub Zero I mean we're talking frosty frosty Zero I mean we're talking frosty frosty Zero I mean we're talking frosty frosty it was a 45-minute walk out to this it was a 45-minute walk out to this it was a 45-minute walk out to this frozen over Lake and and this is super frozen over Lake and and this is super frozen over Lake and and this is super cold water and he said get in and that's cold water and he said get in and that's cold water and he said get in and that's what he said he didn't say how long he what he said he didn't say how long he what he said he didn't say how long he didn't say didn't say didn't say you know he just said get it and so this you know he just said get it and so this you know he just said get it and so this was this was probably the most was this was probably the most was this was probably the most challenging part because we you know challenging part because we you know challenging part because we you know with a mountain you can kind of gauge with a mountain you can kind of gauge with a mountain you can kind of gauge where you are you can look at other where you are you can look at other where you are you can look at other people you can say you know how far we people you can say you know how far we people you can say you know how far we have to go how far we've come but with have to go how far we've come but with have to go how far we've come but with this we got in and it was seriously you this we got in and it was seriously you this we got in and it was seriously you had to draw on your training if you had to draw on your training if you had to draw on your training if you didn't train and if you didn't really if didn't train and if you didn't really if didn't train and if you didn't really if you didn't understand yours yourself and you didn't understand yours yourself and you didn't understand yours yourself and that inner voice that inner voice that that inner voice that inner voice that that inner voice that inner voice that is so important to understand then you is so important to understand then you is so important to understand then you just really didn't have any business just really didn't have any business just really didn't have any business being out there that day and we all go being out there that day and we all go being out there that day and we all go in and and you got to remember I'm with in and and you got to remember I'm with in and and you got to remember I'm with at the Tyler was like 21 other people
14:00at the Tyler was like 21 other people at the Tyler was like 21 other people there and I mean we're all just as there and I mean we're all just as there and I mean we're all just as motivated as we can be we've been motivated as we can be we've been motivated as we can be we've been training we've been working hard at this training we've been working hard at this training we've been working hard at this we get in there and he kept us in there we get in there and he kept us in there we get in there and he kept us in there for I think it was between seven or for I think it was between seven or for I think it was between seven or eight minutes but we didn't know and eight minutes but we didn't know and eight minutes but we didn't know and then we got to come out but that wasn't then we got to come out but that wasn't then we got to come out but that wasn't it we were in subs you know sub-freezing it we were in subs you know sub-freezing it we were in subs you know sub-freezing I don't remember exactly how cold it was I don't remember exactly how cold it was I don't remember exactly how cold it was but it was frost everywhere you could but it was frost everywhere you could but it was frost everywhere you could see your breath I mean we're talking see your breath I mean we're talking see your breath I mean we're talking very cold air and we went through a full very cold air and we went through a full very cold air and we went through a full meditation and you know with that that meditation and you know with that that meditation and you know with that that wind chill effect hitting us all of our wind chill effect hitting us all of our wind chill effect hitting us all of our extremities were screaming at us and you extremities were screaming at us and you extremities were screaming at us and you know we had to do we did what we call know we had to do we did what we call know we had to do we did what we call what's called the inner fire breathing what's called the inner fire breathing what's called the inner fire breathing technique and which we used to call it technique and which we used to call it technique and which we used to call it but and there's a lot of things that but and there's a lot of things that but and there's a lot of things that have changed in the past views but we have changed in the past views but we have changed in the past views but we used to call it the brown fat activation used to call it the brown fat activation used to call it the brown fat activation technique and if any of anybody watching technique and if any of anybody watching technique and if any of anybody watching has taken the original 10-week course has taken the original 10-week course has taken the original 10-week course there's a time whenever he says this is
15:00there's a time whenever he says this is there's a time whenever he says this is how we do brown fat activation you see how we do brown fat activation you see how we do brown fat activation you see him perform it he turns purple almost him perform it he turns purple almost him perform it he turns purple almost and you know and so I think I'm not and you know and so I think I'm not and you know and so I think I'm not really sure I keep forgetting if he does really sure I keep forgetting if he does really sure I keep forgetting if he does that in the fundamentals 10-week course that in the fundamentals 10-week course that in the fundamentals 10-week course I feel like there is a section about how I feel like there is a section about how I feel like there is a section about how to do brow fat or inner fire breathing to do brow fat or inner fire breathing to do brow fat or inner fire breathing but we did that for I would say about 10 but we did that for I would say about 10 but we did that for I would say about 10 minutes in freezing freezing cold air minutes in freezing freezing cold air minutes in freezing freezing cold air and then we got we got the privilege of and then we got we got the privilege of and then we got we got the privilege of being able to towel off put on our shoes being able to towel off put on our shoes being able to towel off put on our shoes and our clothes and walk 45 minutes back and our clothes and walk 45 minutes back and our clothes and walk 45 minutes back to the cabin and let me tell you after to the cabin and let me tell you after to the cabin and let me tell you after that there was no doubt in your mind that there was no doubt in your mind that there was no doubt in your mind after that yep I have this this is after that yep I have this this is after that yep I have this this is something you know and you you couldn't something you know and you you couldn't something you know and you you couldn't you you didn't have the luxury of you you didn't have the luxury of you you didn't have the luxury of doubting it was you know and it's it's doubting it was you know and it's it's doubting it was you know and it's it's and I think this is what we build every and I think this is what we build every and I think this is what we build every time we get into that ice water every time we get into that ice water every time we get into that ice water every time we go out into the cold is we build time we go out into the cold is we build time we go out into the cold is we build this capacity to focus instead of wonder
16:00this capacity to focus instead of wonder this capacity to focus instead of wonder to trust instead of doubt and that was to trust instead of doubt and that was to trust instead of doubt and that was what he was testing us to do that day what he was testing us to do that day what he was testing us to do that day yeah I've said I've said before if I yeah I've said I've said before if I yeah I've said I've said before if I just for my own experience you know I've just for my own experience you know I've just for my own experience you know I've done a lot of personal development type done a lot of personal development type done a lot of personal development type work before that the cold water is the work before that the cold water is the work before that the cold water is the most honest thing I've ever done because most honest thing I've ever done because most honest thing I've ever done because I love that perfect you can't fit it I love that perfect you can't fit it I love that perfect you can't fit it it's like you're either you're either in it's like you're either you're either in it's like you're either you're either in this or you're not and if you're if this or you're not and if you're if this or you're not and if you're if you're I mean you can't you can't cheat you're I mean you can't you can't cheat you're I mean you can't you can't cheat the cold water you can't cheat the cold the cold water you can't cheat the cold the cold water you can't cheat the cold air no no it's like it's like the air no no it's like it's like the air no no it's like it's like the feeling of gravity when you fall on the feeling of gravity when you fall on the feeling of gravity when you fall on the ground I mean there's like you said it ground I mean there's like you said it ground I mean there's like you said it is it is as honest of a a thing that as is it is as honest of a a thing that as is it is as honest of a a thing that as you can do when you're in it you're in you can do when you're in it you're in you can do when you're in it you're in it and you can't you know I remember it and you can't you know I remember it and you can't you know I remember people telling me you know think of a people telling me you know think of a people telling me you know think of a warm place or things like that and you warm place or things like that and you warm place or things like that and you know yeah I guess maybe that might help know yeah I guess maybe that might help know yeah I guess maybe that might help some people but you know it's just like some people but you know it's just like some people but you know it's just like when I'm always told us you know just when I'm always told us you know just when I'm always told us you know just focus on the cold focus on your focus on the cold focus on your focus on the cold focus on your breathing focus on the cold your body breathing focus on the cold your body breathing focus on the cold your body knows how to deal with it it's an knows how to deal with it it's an knows how to deal with it it's an introspective and talking about you know
17:00introspective and talking about you know introspective and talking about you know training up to that point and being training up to that point and being training up to that point and being prepared for that rigorous training that prepared for that rigorous training that prepared for that rigorous training that will put you guys through and so you will put you guys through and so you will put you guys through and so you could really have that foundation not could really have that foundation not could really have that foundation not only of just the the information the only of just the the information the only of just the the information the knowledge but you through your own knowledge but you through your own knowledge but you through your own experience and then further the ability experience and then further the ability experience and then further the ability to actually explain that to people in a to actually explain that to people in a to actually explain that to people in a way that they can get it and then just way that they can get it and then just way that they can get it and then just be able to safely guide them through be able to safely guide them through be able to safely guide them through that process that's it takes a a rare that process that's it takes a a rare that process that's it takes a a rare person to have all three of those pieces person to have all three of those pieces person to have all three of those pieces and to be able to do that and to be able to do that and to be able to do that what are your thank you you're you're what are your thank you you're you're what are your thank you you're you're welcome thank you welcome thank you welcome thank you so what are your thoughts about you know so what are your thoughts about you know so what are your thoughts about you know a lot of people see these these videos a lot of people see these these videos a lot of people see these these videos on YouTube or they'll get this on YouTube or they'll get this on YouTube or they'll get this little introduction about Oh Cole little introduction about Oh Cole little introduction about Oh Cole training or breathing or something and training or breathing or something and training or breathing or something and then they think hey I've got this thing then they think hey I've got this thing then they think hey I've got this thing down and they just go off and do it and down and they just go off and do it and down and they just go off and do it and I've seen the same thing with chest I've seen the same thing with chest I've seen the same thing with chest freezers well okay so first of all I freezers well okay so first of all I freezers well okay so first of all I want to just say I appreciate enthusiasm want to just say I appreciate enthusiasm want to just say I appreciate enthusiasm anywhere I see it and in life we get so anywhere I see it and in life we get so anywhere I see it and in life we get so much of the opposite of enthusiasm I'm much of the opposite of enthusiasm I'm much of the opposite of enthusiasm I'm always happy to see people enthusiastic
18:00always happy to see people enthusiastic always happy to see people enthusiastic having said that I once was that having said that I once was that having said that I once was that enthusiastic person and even though I enthusiastic person and even though I enthusiastic person and even though I had whim to teach me a lot I had I had had whim to teach me a lot I had I had had whim to teach me a lot I had I had to do a lot of learning on my own and to do a lot of learning on my own and to do a lot of learning on my own and and the thing is that one of the things and the thing is that one of the things and the thing is that one of the things that I often had a lot of people had the that I often had a lot of people had the that I often had a lot of people had the same kind of questions that I had you same kind of questions that I had you same kind of questions that I had you know how long how cold you know we we know how long how cold you know we we know how long how cold you know we we it's very there's a lot of guidance that it's very there's a lot of guidance that it's very there's a lot of guidance that you can get from them and actually you can get from them and actually you can get from them and actually there's a lot of other places on the there's a lot of other places on the there's a lot of other places on the internet that will give you some kind of internet that will give you some kind of internet that will give you some kind of guidance as far as you know how to do guidance as far as you know how to do guidance as far as you know how to do Coltrane but it's super ambiguous and Coltrane but it's super ambiguous and Coltrane but it's super ambiguous and normally it's it's it's not bad advice normally it's it's it's not bad advice normally it's it's it's not bad advice but it's kind of like basically they're but it's kind of like basically they're but it's kind of like basically they're saying okay you got to figure it out and saying okay you got to figure it out and saying okay you got to figure it out and listen to yourself and that's and so one listen to yourself and that's and so one listen to yourself and that's and so one of the things that I appreciated about of the things that I appreciated about of the things that I appreciated about reading your book is that you know when reading your book is that you know when reading your book is that you know when I now Wims trainings may have changed I now Wims trainings may have changed I now Wims trainings may have changed substantially since I did it about six substantially since I did it about six substantially since I did it about six years ago it was actually about six years ago it was actually about six years ago it was actually about six years ago this very month well I had years ago this very month well I had years ago this very month well I had women asked him and pretty much all you
19:00women asked him and pretty much all you women asked him and pretty much all you know heated breathing we did these these know heated breathing we did these these know heated breathing we did these these two yoga's you know there was there was two yoga's you know there was there was two yoga's you know there was there was a little bit of talking about it or a little bit of talking about it or a little bit of talking about it or there's no ego go and then we did the there's no ego go and then we did the there's no ego go and then we did the tights bass and the head dunk the second tights bass and the head dunk the second tights bass and the head dunk the second day and all that but there was never day and all that but there was never day and all that but there was never that there there was nothing that there there was nothing that there there was nothing prescriptive afterwards like here's your prescriptive afterwards like here's your prescriptive afterwards like here's your next step or here's how to continue and next step or here's how to continue and next step or here's how to continue and exact so we had this amazing experience exact so we had this amazing experience exact so we had this amazing experience but there was this question of like well but there was this question of like well but there was this question of like well what do I do and so I was trying a few what do I do and so I was trying a few what do I do and so I was trying a few people that we kind of you know traded people that we kind of you know traded people that we kind of you know traded phone numbers and we're like well phone numbers and we're like well phone numbers and we're like well there's it's cold in Austin right now there's it's cold in Austin right now there's it's cold in Austin right now which it rarely ever does get cold in which it rarely ever does get cold in which it rarely ever does get cold in Austin and we know there's just creeks Austin and we know there's just creeks Austin and we know there's just creeks out you know if we hiked down long out you know if we hiked down long out you know if we hiked down long enough and people like I don't know man enough and people like I don't know man enough and people like I don't know man that sounds really terrifying to go into that sounds really terrifying to go into that sounds really terrifying to go into a creek because we don't know anything a creek because we don't know anything a creek because we don't know anything weird you know weird you know weird you know so we write arif ID and just scared and so we write arif ID and just scared and so we write arif ID and just scared and we we didn't end up doing it and well we we didn't end up doing it and well we we didn't end up doing it and well everybody booked out at the last second everybody booked out at the last second everybody booked out at the last second you know it's probably a good thing but you know it's probably a good thing but you know it's probably a good thing but yeah I remember the first time I went yeah I remember the first time I went yeah I remember the first time I went creak and the thing is because you don't creak and the thing is because you don't creak and the thing is because you don't have we as normally we don't have access have we as normally we don't have access have we as normally we don't have access to these natural things or we don't have to these natural things or we don't have to these natural things or we don't have access to ice baths normally a lot of
20:00access to ice baths normally a lot of access to ice baths normally a lot of times that Oh a lot of times what we try times that Oh a lot of times what we try times that Oh a lot of times what we try to do is we try to cram a bunch of to do is we try to cram a bunch of to do is we try to cram a bunch of training into one way yes you know and training into one way yes you know and training into one way yes you know and we try to get the most out of it and I we try to get the most out of it and I we try to get the most out of it and I get that you know but we it is cold cold get that you know but we it is cold cold get that you know but we it is cold cold is something very very it is a lethal so is something very very it is a lethal so is something very very it is a lethal so much and there's that thin line between much and there's that thin line between much and there's that thin line between you know hey this is pushing versus hey you know hey this is pushing versus hey you know hey this is pushing versus hey this is unsafe and I can't push right this is unsafe and I can't push right this is unsafe and I can't push right you do we naturally want to do that but you do we naturally want to do that but you do we naturally want to do that but then we're like okay well what's too far then we're like okay well what's too far then we're like okay well what's too far and and normally I think the natural and and normally I think the natural and and normally I think the natural thing is well I guess I'll wait till I I thing is well I guess I'll wait till I I thing is well I guess I'll wait till I I just can't bear it anymore right that's just can't bear it anymore right that's just can't bear it anymore right that's that was my you right you made me think that was my you right you made me think that was my you right you made me think of my first experience in a Creek where of my first experience in a Creek where of my first experience in a Creek where I went down it was it was 40 I think it I went down it was it was 40 I think it I went down it was it was 40 I think it was like 45 degrees in this Creek and I was like 45 degrees in this Creek and I was like 45 degrees in this Creek and I hike to do it was about a 20 minute hike hike to do it was about a 20 minute hike hike to do it was about a 20 minute hike and it was running water was under this and it was running water was under this and it was running water was under this water they said I was the only prayer I water they said I was the only prayer I water they said I was the only prayer I was the only person on the water for was the only person on the water for was the only person on the water for sure there were other people out there sure there were other people out there sure there were other people out there hiking going who is this idiot in the hiking going who is this idiot in the hiking going who is this idiot in the water I remember trying to push you know
21:00water I remember trying to push you know water I remember trying to push you know I can do this I can do this I can do this I can do this I can do this I can do this but I felt like my entire body was being but I felt like my entire body was being but I felt like my entire body was being stabbed by thousands of needles and it stabbed by thousands of needles and it stabbed by thousands of needles and it was burning and when I got out I was was burning and when I got out I was was burning and when I got out I was fortunately it still bright red I didn't fortunately it still bright red I didn't fortunately it still bright red I didn't turn purple or blue right those are turn purple or blue right those are turn purple or blue right those are really bad colors but I didn't know it really bad colors but I didn't know it really bad colors but I didn't know it just I didn't know what I didn't know a just I didn't know what I didn't know a just I didn't know what I didn't know a creek was the worst after drop I've ever creek was the worst after drop I've ever creek was the worst after drop I've ever experienced Oh God really I yeah and so experienced Oh God really I yeah and so experienced Oh God really I yeah and so I can completely relate I I've I've I can completely relate I I've I've I can completely relate I I've I've experienced a lot of after drop and I experienced a lot of after drop and I experienced a lot of after drop and I think anybody one of the things I tried think anybody one of the things I tried think anybody one of the things I tried to do and this is what I put in my book to do and this is what I put in my book to do and this is what I put in my book I tried to experiment and hopefully save I tried to experiment and hopefully save I tried to experiment and hopefully save people a lot of grief because what people a lot of grief because what people a lot of grief because what happened is I a lot of creeks and happened is I a lot of creeks and happened is I a lot of creeks and hopefully hopefully maybe save a few hopefully hopefully maybe save a few hopefully hopefully maybe save a few lives out there I there are so many lives out there I there are so many lives out there I there are so many stories I hear of people practicing wim stories I hear of people practicing wim stories I hear of people practicing wim HOF method or simply practicing cold HOF method or simply practicing cold HOF method or simply practicing cold training because that's a thing to a lot training because that's a thing to a lot training because that's a thing to a lot of people think it's just swim HOF of people think it's just swim HOF of people think it's just swim HOF method but you you also can practice method but you you also can practice method but you you also can practice cold training independently you can cold training independently you can cold training independently you can practice it with hot and cold
22:00practice it with hot and cold practice it with hot and cold can practice it with other breathing can practice it with other breathing can practice it with other breathing techniques but anyway I see so many techniques but anyway I see so many techniques but anyway I see so many people online they'll and they'll have people online they'll and they'll have people online they'll and they'll have they'll they'll see these great these they'll they'll see these great these they'll they'll see these great these people who have practiced cold training people who have practiced cold training people who have practiced cold training for a long time and they're like well for a long time and they're like well for a long time and they're like well I'm gonna go out and do that - yes and I'm gonna go out and do that - yes and I'm gonna go out and do that - yes and they'll have frostbite they'll have frostbite they'll have frostbite there's these you know the case of there's these you know the case of there's these you know the case of recently there was a group of hikers who recently there was a group of hikers who recently there was a group of hikers who they were trying to do the wim HOF style they were trying to do the wim HOF style they were trying to do the wim HOF style hike and they didn't bring any coats hike and they didn't bring any coats hike and they didn't bring any coats they didn't have their emergency bag you they didn't have their emergency bag you they didn't have their emergency bag you know in my book I talk about all the know in my book I talk about all the know in my book I talk about all the things you need to bring with you if you things you need to bring with you if you things you need to bring with you if you do choose to go outdoors you know and do choose to go outdoors you know and do choose to go outdoors you know and one of my biggest principles is to one of my biggest principles is to one of my biggest principles is to always train in a controlled environment always train in a controlled environment always train in a controlled environment and the great outdoors I mean as I mean and the great outdoors I mean as I mean and the great outdoors I mean as I mean I mean just by definition is not I mean just by definition is not I mean just by definition is not controlled so we try to bring as much controlled so we try to bring as much controlled so we try to bring as much control with us as we can but getting control with us as we can but getting control with us as we can but getting back to the my my experience with the back to the my my experience with the back to the my my experience with the the creeks I went out to this Creek I
23:00the creeks I went out to this Creek I the creeks I went out to this Creek I was training hard and I should have was training hard and I should have was training hard and I should have stayed in the creek you know looking stayed in the creek you know looking stayed in the creek you know looking back maybe four or five minutes and then back maybe four or five minutes and then back maybe four or five minutes and then got out it was running water it was got out it was running water it was got out it was running water it was super cold out it was dead of winter but super cold out it was dead of winter but super cold out it was dead of winter but no of course I had to go ten minutes no of course I had to go ten minutes no of course I had to go ten minutes right I have my friend with the clock my right I have my friend with the clock my right I have my friend with the clock my inner inner voice was screaming what are inner inner voice was screaming what are inner inner voice was screaming what are you doing you know but I wouldn't listen you doing you know but I wouldn't listen you doing you know but I wouldn't listen because I needed to get that ten minutes because I needed to get that ten minutes because I needed to get that ten minutes and so I got out yeah I got out of the and so I got out yeah I got out of the and so I got out yeah I got out of the water you know I was like okay great water you know I was like okay great water you know I was like okay great and I started immediately feeling tired and I started immediately feeling tired and I started immediately feeling tired and then with every step I felt weaker and then with every step I felt weaker and then with every step I felt weaker and weaker and I was like uncontrollably and weaker and I was like uncontrollably and weaker and I was like uncontrollably shivering and here I was my friend I was shivering and here I was my friend I was shivering and here I was my friend I was trying not to look like an idiot in trying not to look like an idiot in trying not to look like an idiot in front of my friends so I was like god front of my friends so I was like god front of my friends so I was like god I'm fine I'm fine and so I was like I I'm fine I'm fine and so I was like I I'm fine I'm fine and so I was like I guess I'll Drive home now which is the guess I'll Drive home now which is the guess I'll Drive home now which is the dumbest thing you can ever do again I dumbest thing you can ever do again I dumbest thing you can ever do again I try to save people's lives you don't try to save people's lives you don't try to save people's lives you don't Coltrane and driver never told train to Coltrane and driver never told train to Coltrane and driver never told train to drive and if you do drive wait wait wait
24:00drive and if you do drive wait wait wait drive and if you do drive wait wait wait for the to make sure you're not going to for the to make sure you're not going to for the to make sure you're not going to get after yup so here I was suffering get after yup so here I was suffering get after yup so here I was suffering from after drop you know I've had warm from after drop you know I've had warm from after drop you know I've had warm clothes on I was bursting making the clothes on I was bursting making the clothes on I was bursting making the heater go which as we know now as I know heater go which as we know now as I know heater go which as we know now as I know now that's way that's a bad idea yes now that's way that's a bad idea yes now that's way that's a bad idea yes so what that does for our listeners that so what that does for our listeners that so what that does for our listeners that will tell your body to just let the will tell your body to just let the will tell your body to just let the floodgates loose and let all of this floodgates loose and let all of this floodgates loose and let all of this cold blood you know go through your body cold blood you know go through your body cold blood you know go through your body so it was hitting me harder I got home so it was hitting me harder I got home so it was hitting me harder I got home and I was the only one home my wife was and I was the only one home my wife was and I was the only one home my wife was I forget she was with her friends or I forget she was with her friends or I forget she was with her friends or something and I was like okay I am something and I was like okay I am something and I was like okay I am miserable I hate life everything sucks miserable I hate life everything sucks miserable I hate life everything sucks I feel terrible and and I was really I feel terrible and and I was really I feel terrible and and I was really starting to get worried and I really it starting to get worried and I really it starting to get worried and I really it was good that I was being worried was good that I was being worried was good that I was being worried because there does come a point whatever because there does come a point whatever because there does come a point whatever you have to go to the hospital and so I you have to go to the hospital and so I you have to go to the hospital and so I thought okay what can I do now the next thought okay what can I do now the next thought okay what can I do now the next thing I did actually was probably a good thing I did actually was probably a good thing I did actually was probably a good choice I at there and just tried to calm choice I at there and just tried to calm choice I at there and just tried to calm down but that wouldn't that I just down but that wouldn't that I just down but that wouldn't that I just couldn't do it I just was like I'm
25:00couldn't do it I just was like I'm couldn't do it I just was like I'm freaking out so I took a hot shower and freaking out so I took a hot shower and freaking out so I took a hot shower and I just shivered and shivered and I just shivered and shivered and I just shivered and shivered and shivered in that hot shower and the rest shivered in that hot shower and the rest shivered in that hot shower and the rest of the day I felt cold just felt awful I of the day I felt cold just felt awful I of the day I felt cold just felt awful I could have killed myself that's right could have killed myself that's right could have killed myself that's right that's the hard cold truth about cold that's the hard cold truth about cold that's the hard cold truth about cold training is that it is a lethal force training is that it is a lethal force training is that it is a lethal force and I'm so glad you can't let your ego and I'm so glad you can't let your ego and I'm so glad you can't let your ego you can't let like you just can't assume you can't let like you just can't assume you can't let like you just can't assume that because wim HOF can sit in an ice that because wim HOF can sit in an ice that because wim HOF can sit in an ice bath for two hours I I have people on my bath for two hours I I have people on my bath for two hours I I have people on my youtube channel sometimes comment that youtube channel sometimes comment that youtube channel sometimes comment that well wim HOF can do it for two hours well wim HOF can do it for two hours well wim HOF can do it for two hours anybody can but no so yeah just women anybody can but no so yeah just women anybody can but no so yeah just women would never went wim has said many times would never went wim has said many times would never went wim has said many times you know that was my sport that was the you know that was my sport that was the you know that was my sport that was the thing I did don't expect to do that and thing I did don't expect to do that and thing I did don't expect to do that and the point and like you know one of the the point and like you know one of the the point and like you know one of the things in your book you even you point things in your book you even you point things in your book you even you point out I think you have some great tips for out I think you have some great tips for out I think you have some great tips for staying safe in the cold as well and one staying safe in the cold as well and one staying safe in the cold as well and one of the things is that we're doing this of the things is that we're doing this of the things is that we're doing this for our health yeah and we're not doing
26:00for our health yeah and we're not doing for our health yeah and we're not doing it we're not doing it to brag right yeah it we're not doing it to brag right yeah it we're not doing it to brag right yeah I can relate to that because I the one I can relate to that because I the one I can relate to that because I the one time I actually hurt myself I was doing time I actually hurt myself I was doing time I actually hurt myself I was doing isolation training with my hands and isolation training with my hands and isolation training with my hands and this was before I got the chest freezer this was before I got the chest freezer this was before I got the chest freezer but I was doing ice buckets and I dumped but I was doing ice buckets and I dumped but I was doing ice buckets and I dumped a bunch of ice from the freezer in there a bunch of ice from the freezer in there a bunch of ice from the freezer in there and I was going for time uh-huh and and I was going for time uh-huh and and I was going for time uh-huh and basically it took and I don't remember basically it took and I don't remember basically it took and I don't remember what the time was even but I obviously what the time was even but I obviously what the time was even but I obviously wasn't worth it but it took four months wasn't worth it but it took four months wasn't worth it but it took four months for me to get feeling back into for me to get feeling back into for me to get feeling back into left thumb in my hand yeah I don't doubt left thumb in my hand yeah I don't doubt left thumb in my hand yeah I don't doubt it and the thing that we do when we do it and the thing that we do when we do it and the thing that we do when we do this for everybody watching this and this for everybody watching this and this for everybody watching this and listening the thing that we do when we listening the thing that we do when we listening the thing that we do when we overdo it we give ourselves this overdo it we give ourselves this overdo it we give ourselves this internal psychological scar that is very internal psychological scar that is very internal psychological scar that is very difficult to intellectually overcome and difficult to intellectually overcome and difficult to intellectually overcome and and it's it's this strange thing that and it's it's this strange thing that and it's it's this strange thing that it's like well I know okay I made the it's like well I know okay I made the it's like well I know okay I made the mistake I can get back into it but deep mistake I can get back into it but deep mistake I can get back into it but deep down you've proven to yourself that the down you've proven to yourself that the down you've proven to yourself that the coldest is scary and it's it's gonna get coldest is scary and it's it's gonna get coldest is scary and it's it's gonna get you and that's why like for instance
27:00you and that's why like for instance you and that's why like for instance it's important to have I think some it's important to have I think some it's important to have I think some scaffolding and so in my book what I do scaffolding and so in my book what I do scaffolding and so in my book what I do is at first when we talk about the inner is at first when we talk about the inner is at first when we talk about the inner voice you know John whenever you talk to voice you know John whenever you talk to voice you know John whenever you talk to somebody about hey listen to your voice somebody about hey listen to your voice somebody about hey listen to your voice you get the same look we all get the you get the same look we all get the you get the same look we all get the same look and we used to give the look same look and we used to give the look same look and we used to give the look right right it was like what the hell right right it was like what the hell right right it was like what the hell are you talking about are you talking about are you talking about inner voice right and so because it's inner voice right and so because it's inner voice right and so because it's hard to understand what that is until hard to understand what that is until hard to understand what that is until you've trained for a while you've trained for a while you've trained for a while so some got there's a real guideposts so some got there's a real guideposts so some got there's a real guideposts this is approximately how long the this is approximately how long the this is approximately how long the average person can handle this is how average person can handle this is how average person can handle this is how fast you should be able to progress this fast you should be able to progress this fast you should be able to progress this is how many days off you should be able is how many days off you should be able is how many days off you should be able to take you know that's a really helpful to take you know that's a really helpful to take you know that's a really helpful thing that like I like I wish I would thing that like I like I wish I would thing that like I like I wish I would have had the book whenever I started I have had the book whenever I started I have had the book whenever I started I wouldn't have gotten in that Creek so wouldn't have gotten in that Creek so wouldn't have gotten in that Creek so they both wrote the books that we wish they both wrote the books that we wish they both wrote the books that we wish we would have had is what we did because we would have had is what we did because we would have had is what we did because because I was like you know there this because I was like you know there this because I was like you know there this needs to get out there because I see so needs to get out there because I see so needs to get out there because I see so many people having the same questions many people having the same questions many people having the same questions and you know I could it's really
28:00and you know I could it's really and you know I could it's really difficult for me to train someone in New difficult for me to train someone in New difficult for me to train someone in New Zealand or in South America like my Zealand or in South America like my Zealand or in South America like my youtube channel we have an international youtube channel we have an international youtube channel we have an international audience and we have a lot of great audience and we have a lot of great audience and we have a lot of great people on this YouTube channel really people on this YouTube channel really people on this YouTube channel really great community and it's very difficult great community and it's very difficult great community and it's very difficult to sit with a person you know like like to sit with a person you know like like to sit with a person you know like like what we're doing right now and and say what we're doing right now and and say what we're doing right now and and say well okay now it's time for you to get well okay now it's time for you to get well okay now it's time for you to get out now if I'm sitting with a person I out now if I'm sitting with a person I out now if I'm sitting with a person I can usually watch their face I can see can usually watch their face I can see can usually watch their face I can see their body movements I can see the their body movements I can see the their body movements I can see the disposition and say okay now it's time disposition and say okay now it's time disposition and say okay now it's time for you get out so for instance if you for you get out so for instance if you for you get out so for instance if you come to a workshop I may tell a person come to a workshop I may tell a person come to a workshop I may tell a person to get out before the 2 minute challenge to get out before the 2 minute challenge to get out before the 2 minute challenge or the 90 second challenge or whatever or the 90 second challenge or whatever or the 90 second challenge or whatever is is is and it's not something to ever be and it's not something to ever be and it's not something to ever be discouraged by it literally is I'm just discouraged by it literally is I'm just discouraged by it literally is I'm just saying okay you know you've had a good saying okay you know you've had a good saying okay you know you've had a good dose you're your inner voice you're dose you're your inner voice you're dose you're your inner voice you're having a hard time hearing your inner having a hard time hearing your inner having a hard time hearing your inner voice right it's saying you need to get voice right it's saying you need to get voice right it's saying you need to get out I can see it just by looking at you out I can see it just by looking at you out I can see it just by looking at you I've seen enough people ice bathe now
29:00I've seen enough people ice bathe now I've seen enough people ice bathe now it's amazing how many people have seen a it's amazing how many people have seen a it's amazing how many people have seen a nice man hundreds of people I've made nice man hundreds of people I've made nice man hundreds of people I've made and so it's so it's one of those things and so it's so it's one of those things and so it's so it's one of those things where even with myself I have to watch where even with myself I have to watch where even with myself I have to watch that whenever I'm around people that are that whenever I'm around people that are that whenever I'm around people that are ice bathing or I'm when I'm like for ice bathing or I'm when I'm like for ice bathing or I'm when I'm like for instance in in January next month I'm instance in in January next month I'm instance in in January next month I'm going to be in Poland I have to watch to going to be in Poland I have to watch to going to be in Poland I have to watch to make sure that I'm listening to my voice make sure that I'm listening to my voice make sure that I'm listening to my voice and I'm not listening to my ego as well and I'm not listening to my ego as well and I'm not listening to my ego as well because just because I've been training because just because I've been training because just because I've been training for years and and I've really gotten a for years and and I've really gotten a for years and and I've really gotten a certain level of mastery over ice certain level of mastery over ice certain level of mastery over ice training it doesn't mean that my inner training it doesn't mean that my inner training it doesn't mean that my inner voice isn't going to say hey man you voice isn't going to say hey man you voice isn't going to say hey man you need to get out of there you know it's need to get out of there you know it's need to get out of there you know it's it's time to call it quits and maybe it's time to call it quits and maybe it's time to call it quits and maybe someone who's maybe a rookie or someone someone who's maybe a rookie or someone someone who's maybe a rookie or someone who's far less trained that day they can who's far less trained that day they can who's far less trained that day they can go longer than I can it's Jody is go longer than I can it's Jody is go longer than I can it's Jody is different and you just yeah present to different and you just yeah present to different and you just yeah present to that moment and I think that's why it's that moment and I think that's why it's that moment and I think that's why it's important to develop that inner voice important to develop that inner voice important to develop that inner voice I'm sorry for no no that's to say that's I'm sorry for no no that's to say that's I'm sorry for no no that's to say that's that's also that's where your your
30:00that's also that's where your your that's also that's where your your training with the breath work and the training with the breath work and the training with the breath work and the meditation that you bring also into this meditation that you bring also into this meditation that you bring also into this experience with people really helps to experience with people really helps to experience with people really helps to pay attention to your body in that pay attention to your body in that pay attention to your body in that moment and not compare it to all the moment and not compare it to all the moment and not compare it to all the things that I've done this in the past things that I've done this in the past things that I've done this in the past and yeah and that's so hard it's hard to and yeah and that's so hard it's hard to and yeah and that's so hard it's hard to get over that and with breath work get over that and with breath work get over that and with breath work especially and of course this breath especially and of course this breath especially and of course this breath working meditation go hand in hand it's working meditation go hand in hand it's working meditation go hand in hand it's learning to be in the present and being learning to be in the present and being learning to be in the present and being here now and not in you know what here now and not in you know what here now and not in you know what happened in the meeting earlier today or happened in the meeting earlier today or happened in the meeting earlier today or whatever it's going on tomorrow that I'm whatever it's going on tomorrow that I'm whatever it's going on tomorrow that I'm excited about right yeah and it's excited about right yeah and it's excited about right yeah and it's interesting that that that can take to interesting that that that can take to interesting that that that can take to pieces you know whether it's I can push pieces you know whether it's I can push pieces you know whether it's I can push and stay in longer or there's the other and stay in longer or there's the other and stay in longer or there's the other side which is no I need to get out now side which is no I need to get out now side which is no I need to get out now and right is also the ego whether that's and right is also the ego whether that's and right is also the ego whether that's allowing that embrace to happen and to allowing that embrace to happen and to allowing that embrace to happen and to really be fully present to what your really be fully present to what your really be fully present to what your body is capable of doing so you can body is capable of doing so you can body is capable of doing so you can cheat yourself or hurt yourself and cheat yourself or hurt yourself and cheat yourself or hurt yourself and there there there both ways yes yes yeah absolutely both ways yes yes yeah absolutely both ways yes yes yeah absolutely so absolutely yeah but both ways we can
31:00so absolutely yeah but both ways we can so absolutely yeah but both ways we can because because if you listen to the because because if you listen to the because because if you listen to the inner the the the first part of the inner the the the first part of the inner the the the first part of the inner voice is always going to be hey inner voice is always going to be hey inner voice is always going to be hey you know you're in a lethal situation you know you're in a lethal situation you know you're in a lethal situation right you know and you're like oh okay right you know and you're like oh okay right you know and you're like oh okay yeah but as long as and that's where yeah but as long as and that's where yeah but as long as and that's where experience practice regular practice experience practice regular practice experience practice regular practice gets that's why that's so important and gets that's why that's so important and gets that's why that's so important and one of the reasons and I want to one of the reasons and I want to one of the reasons and I want to interject too is the importance of interject too is the importance of interject too is the importance of having a trainer and a guy somebody having a trainer and a guy somebody having a trainer and a guy somebody who's experienced and guide you through who's experienced and guide you through who's experienced and guide you through this so I can't emphasize enough how the this so I can't emphasize enough how the this so I can't emphasize enough how the value of you know to anybody who's value of you know to anybody who's value of you know to anybody who's watching this to sign up for some watching this to sign up for some watching this to sign up for some training you know whether it's with training you know whether it's with training you know whether it's with Jesse or another one off instructor but Jesse or another one off instructor but Jesse or another one off instructor but you know get that training that training you know get that training that training you know get that training that training can make a world of difference not only can make a world of difference not only can make a world of difference not only just in your own safety but just in the just in your own safety but just in the just in your own safety but just in the experience and how quickly you're able experience and how quickly you're able experience and how quickly you're able to move forward and make progress you to move forward and make progress you to move forward and make progress you know there's nothing like buying at an know there's nothing like buying at an know there's nothing like buying at an experienced teacher or trainer or coach experienced teacher or trainer or coach experienced teacher or trainer or coach and to help you to guide you along that and to help you to guide you along that and to help you to guide you along that path what it's invaluable absolutely path what it's invaluable absolutely path what it's invaluable absolutely right so Jesse where do you where do you right so Jesse where do you where do you right so Jesse where do you where do you see all this going and you know is we see all this going and you know is we see all this going and you know is we you know we're learning some amazing
32:00you know we're learning some amazing you know we're learning some amazing things there's more science there's more things there's more science there's more things there's more science there's more research that's being published and this research that's being published and this research that's being published and this aura is being done right now that hasn't aura is being done right now that hasn't aura is being done right now that hasn't been published yet and there's there's been published yet and there's there's been published yet and there's there's there's some pretty amazing things that there's some pretty amazing things that there's some pretty amazing things that are coming out about what humans are are coming out about what humans are are coming out about what humans are capable of doing there's a bunch of capable of doing there's a bunch of capable of doing there's a bunch of amazing stories right now that about amazing stories right now that about amazing stories right now that about different health issues that people have different health issues that people have different health issues that people have been overcoming the symptoms of using been overcoming the symptoms of using been overcoming the symptoms of using these methods so where do you see all of these methods so where do you see all of these methods so where do you see all of this going in the next like maybe the this going in the next like maybe the this going in the next like maybe the next five to ten years I I see a next five to ten years I I see a next five to ten years I I see a possibility for a time when people can possibility for a time when people can possibility for a time when people can literally learn to know themselves in a literally learn to know themselves in a literally learn to know themselves in a way that modern humans have not been way that modern humans have not been way that modern humans have not been able to do we've we've been distracted able to do we've we've been distracted able to do we've we've been distracted we've we live in this culture of we've we live in this culture of we've we live in this culture of absolute distraction and persuasion from absolute distraction and persuasion from absolute distraction and persuasion from all kinds of outside influences and it's all kinds of outside influences and it's all kinds of outside influences and it's really led to existential dilemmas and really led to existential dilemmas and really led to existential dilemmas and crises for all of us and and I see a
33:00crises for all of us and and I see a crises for all of us and and I see a time where through breath work through time where through breath work through time where through breath work through its you know its you know its you know Bossier of heat and cold by by doing Bossier of heat and cold by by doing Bossier of heat and cold by by doing these things where we push ourselves out these things where we push ourselves out these things where we push ourselves out of the comfort zones where we have to of the comfort zones where we have to of the comfort zones where we have to get to know ourselves on when you're get to know ourselves on when you're get to know ourselves on when you're working with breath work you know that working with breath work you know that working with breath work you know that you can you get to know yourself on the you can you get to know yourself on the you can you get to know yourself on the level especially if you practice for level especially if you practice for level especially if you practice for long periods of time you you get you go long periods of time you you get you go long periods of time you you get you go deep into it you get to know yourself on deep into it you get to know yourself on deep into it you get to know yourself on a way that it's I didn't think I could a way that it's I didn't think I could a way that it's I didn't think I could know myself and I see these things know myself and I see these things know myself and I see these things working for a future that we're gonna working for a future that we're gonna working for a future that we're gonna have generations that can still go to a have generations that can still go to a have generations that can still go to a nine-to-five job they can still live in nine-to-five job they can still live in nine-to-five job they can still live in this modern world but they can get to this modern world but they can get to this modern world but they can get to know themselves in a way that we used to know themselves in a way that we used to know themselves in a way that we used to have to go you know live this ascetic have to go you know live this ascetic have to go you know live this ascetic lifestyle to figure out and I really see lifestyle to figure out and I really see lifestyle to figure out and I really see it as a way to bring those those those it as a way to bring those those those it as a way to bring those those those truths and about ourselves and and that truths and about ourselves and and that truths and about ourselves and and that comfort with ourselves into a life of comfort with ourselves into a life of comfort with ourselves into a life of the 21st century and that and that's
34:00the 21st century and that and that's the 21st century and that and that's that's invaluable because you know that's invaluable because you know that's invaluable because you know anybody they say the old joke is like anybody they say the old joke is like anybody they say the old joke is like anybody can be enlightened if you're up anybody can be enlightened if you're up anybody can be enlightened if you're up in a cave isolated from the rest of the in a cave isolated from the rest of the in a cave isolated from the rest of the world and that's easy it's one of those world and that's easy it's one of those world and that's easy it's one of those strange paradoxes right to actually live strange paradoxes right to actually live strange paradoxes right to actually live in the world and to be a productive in the world and to be a productive in the world and to be a productive member of society and hopefully to steer member of society and hopefully to steer member of society and hopefully to steer society in a good you know a positive society in a good you know a positive society in a good you know a positive way you have to know yourself you have way you have to know yourself you have way you have to know yourself you have to be strong you have to be healthy you to be strong you have to be healthy you to be strong you have to be healthy you have to you have to be able to have to you have to be able to have to you have to be able to understand yourself and be authentic understand yourself and be authentic understand yourself and be authentic with who you are and that's where with who you are and that's where with who you are and that's where breadth work that's where meditation breadth work that's where meditation breadth work that's where meditation cold exposure all of these things I cold exposure all of these things I cold exposure all of these things I think yes there's an enormous amount of think yes there's an enormous amount of think yes there's an enormous amount of other physical psychological all these other physical psychological all these other physical psychological all these other physiological benefits that we can other physiological benefits that we can other physiological benefits that we can get from all of these things and I think get from all of these things and I think get from all of these things and I think you and I are you know are s testament you and I are you know are s testament you and I are you know are s testament you know we were talking about how you you know we were talking about how you you know we were talking about how you know you're an insomniac and you know know you're an insomniac and you know know you're an insomniac and you know we've got all these other Testaments to we've got all these other Testaments to we've got all these other Testaments to the health benefits but I think in the
35:00the health benefits but I think in the the health benefits but I think in the West sometimes we we undervalue and I West sometimes we we undervalue and I West sometimes we we undervalue and I don't you're not doing that I know what don't you're not doing that I know what don't you're not doing that I know what I'm saying is though I think it's it's I'm saying is though I think it's it's I'm saying is though I think it's it's important to value the the the ability important to value the the the ability important to value the the the ability to be authentic even more you know and to be authentic even more you know and to be authentic even more you know and so we're being healthy we're being happy so we're being healthy we're being happy so we're being healthy we're being happy and strong but and strong but and strong but also we're learning about ourselves also we're learning about ourselves also we're learning about ourselves we're getting to know ourselves in a way we're getting to know ourselves in a way we're getting to know ourselves in a way that it doesn't take money I mean a that it doesn't take money I mean a that it doesn't take money I mean a chest freezer saves us money I mean I chest freezer saves us money I mean I chest freezer saves us money I mean I mean it's crazy how that might sound but mean it's crazy how that might sound but mean it's crazy how that might sound but I in your book I love all these I in your book I love all these I in your book I love all these different chest freezers that your your different chest freezers that your your different chest freezers that your your you know people in your community of you know people in your community of you know people in your community of sent in I mean some of them are just sent in I mean some of them are just sent in I mean some of them are just elaborate some of them are like elaborate some of them are like elaborate some of them are like Frankenstein's like mine is you know Frankenstein's like mine is you know Frankenstein's like mine is you know it's it doesn't matter you know and and it's it doesn't matter you know and and it's it doesn't matter you know and and the whole point is we're able to to tap the whole point is we're able to to tap the whole point is we're able to to tap into our real selves you really get to into our real selves you really get to into our real selves you really get to know who you are and you're also getting know who you are and you're also getting know who you are and you're also getting all these other benefits too so I see a all these other benefits too so I see a all these other benefits too so I see a very bright future if we if we as a
36:00very bright future if we if we as a very bright future if we if we as a people embrace it and I appreciate you people embrace it and I appreciate you people embrace it and I appreciate you so much for for what you've done to help so much for for what you've done to help so much for for what you've done to help this process continue you did a lot of this process continue you did a lot of this process continue you did a lot of homework John did a lot of work yeah I homework John did a lot of work yeah I homework John did a lot of work yeah I have it's been a little um out of work have it's been a little um out of work have it's been a little um out of work over the last several years but yeah and over the last several years but yeah and over the last several years but yeah and you as well I mean I thank you Jesse for you as well I mean I thank you Jesse for you as well I mean I thank you Jesse for just the work you're doing and all of just the work you're doing and all of just the work you're doing and all of the research that you've done to bring the research that you've done to bring the research that you've done to bring this together and to put your book this together and to put your book this together and to put your book together to make that a helpful and together to make that a helpful and together to make that a helpful and useful a practical guide for people who useful a practical guide for people who useful a practical guide for people who really want to take this to the next really want to take this to the next really want to take this to the next level and to do so safely and to get the level and to do so safely and to get the level and to do so safely and to get the most results out of it you know one of most results out of it you know one of most results out of it you know one of the things that I see that really gives the things that I see that really gives the things that I see that really gives me a lot of hope and this is part of me a lot of hope and this is part of me a lot of hope and this is part of what's just the experience of running what's just the experience of running what's just the experience of running this Facebook community for the last this Facebook community for the last this Facebook community for the last year and this is just for the chest year and this is just for the chest year and this is just for the chest freezer side of it and I knew in the in freezer side of it and I knew in the in freezer side of it and I knew in the in the wim HOF workshops you get a much the wim HOF workshops you get a much the wim HOF workshops you get a much more intimate amount of time with people more intimate amount of time with people more intimate amount of time with people over that that day or those two days over that that day or those two days over that that day or those two days where the workshop is being held so you where the workshop is being held so you where the workshop is being held so you probably have even more of a taste of probably have even more of a taste of probably have even more of a taste of this but what I what I absolutely love this but what I what I absolutely love this but what I what I absolutely love and what inspires me is that there is of
37:00and what inspires me is that there is of and what inspires me is that there is of right now is about I've only got about right now is about I've only got about right now is about I've only got about 1,800 people on this group but there's 1,800 people on this group but there's 1,800 people on this group but there's they're from about 75 different they're from about 75 different they're from about 75 different countries and what I see is that there's countries and what I see is that there's countries and what I see is that there's all these people that are coming all these people that are coming all these people that are coming together with diverse backgrounds together with diverse backgrounds together with diverse backgrounds diverse belief systems yeah cultures and diverse belief systems yeah cultures and diverse belief systems yeah cultures and we are all coming together for this one we are all coming together for this one we are all coming together for this one single focus of let's all be the best we single focus of let's all be the best we single focus of let's all be the best we can be yes let's all get healthier let's can be yes let's all get healthier let's can be yes let's all get healthier let's all get stronger and let's all be happy all get stronger and let's all be happy all get stronger and let's all be happy and we're all working together towards and we're all working together towards and we're all working together towards that end isn't that yeah I love that that end isn't that yeah I love that that end isn't that yeah I love that that is absolutely true yeah I see it in that is absolutely true yeah I see it in that is absolutely true yeah I see it in my workshops I see it in your group on my workshops I see it in your group on my workshops I see it in your group on Facebook you know like you said very Facebook you know like you said very Facebook you know like you said very different different types of people different different types of people different different types of people coming together and that that's very coming together and that that's very coming together and that that's very hopeful yeah that's awesome well Jesse I hopeful yeah that's awesome well Jesse I hopeful yeah that's awesome well Jesse I thank you so much for taking the time to thank you so much for taking the time to thank you so much for taking the time to have this conversation today I really have this conversation today I really have this conversation today I really appreciate you I love what you're doing appreciate you I love what you're doing appreciate you I love what you're doing keep doing it and I'm and I love your keep doing it and I'm and I love your keep doing it and I'm and I love your videos that you put out there videos that you put out there videos that you put out there I really appreciate not just your your I really appreciate not just your your I really appreciate not just your your knowledge but also your your enthusiasm knowledge but also your your enthusiasm knowledge but also your your enthusiasm and passion and as well as your level of and passion and as well as your level of and passion and as well as your level of playfulness that you bring to this whole playfulness that you bring to this whole playfulness that you bring to this whole process you know it's a it's a great
38:00process you know it's a it's a great process you know it's a it's a great reminder for me that you know sometimes reminder for me that you know sometimes reminder for me that you know sometimes at least I'll speak for myself I can get at least I'll speak for myself I can get at least I'll speak for myself I can get a little too serious and it's a it's a a little too serious and it's a it's a a little too serious and it's a it's a great reminder too to step into that great reminder too to step into that great reminder too to step into that playfulness and just bring the fun back playfulness and just bring the fun back playfulness and just bring the fun back into all of this so absolutely so for into all of this so absolutely so for into all of this so absolutely so for the folks who are watching this video the folks who are watching this video the folks who are watching this video that are not already part of your group that are not already part of your group that are not already part of your group where can they find you online now where where can they find you online now where where can they find you online now where is your YouTube channel and where can we is your YouTube channel and where can we is your YouTube channel and where can we send them yeah so let's take a look if send them yeah so let's take a look if send them yeah so let's take a look if you don't mind just put those in the you don't mind just put those in the you don't mind just put those in the description box as well but midwestern description box as well but midwestern description box as well but midwestern method is my youtube channel I also have method is my youtube channel I also have method is my youtube channel I also have a Facebook page its Midwestern method a Facebook page its Midwestern method a Facebook page its Midwestern method USA training my website is www.antakungfu.com it'll be right on the www.antakungfu.com it'll be right on the landing page I'm also on Instagram and landing page I'm also on Instagram and landing page I'm also on Instagram and all those other places to just look for all those other places to just look for all those other places to just look for Jessie Coomer awesome all right Jessie Jessie Coomer awesome all right Jessie Jessie Coomer awesome all right Jessie have an awesome day and I'll looking have an awesome day and I'll looking have an awesome day and I'll looking forward to talking with you again soon forward to talking with you again soon forward to talking with you again soon awesome thanks so much John bye