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INFRARED Sauna Float Tank and COLD PLUNGES with Dr Charles Tabone and Jeff Ono o

00:00sometimes we're just piggybacking off of sometimes we're just piggybacking off of what Nature has but if you're somebody what Nature has but if you're somebody what Nature has but if you're somebody who's deficient in sleep you're probably who's deficient in sleep you're probably who's deficient in sleep you're probably going to benefit from the flow if you're going to benefit from the flow if you're going to benefit from the flow if you're somebody who never spends time outside somebody who never spends time outside somebody who never spends time outside and your skin is is showing it you might and your skin is is showing it you might and your skin is is showing it you might benefit from being in the red light or benefit from being in the red light or benefit from being in the red light or the sauna if you're so like it might the sauna if you're so like it might the sauna if you're so like it might just be dependent on what you're just be dependent on what you're just be dependent on what you're deficient in then how can we repeat that deficient in then how can we repeat that deficient in then how can we repeat that hey everybody so my name is Jeff Ono I hey everybody so my name is Jeff Ono I hey everybody so my name is Jeff Ono I am the co-founder of pause Studios and am the co-founder of pause Studios and am the co-founder of pause Studios and today we're going to talk about what today we're going to talk about what today we're going to talk about what pause is pause is pause is why pause is more important today than why pause is more important today than why pause is more important today than ever before and what pause stands for as ever before and what pause stands for as ever before and what pause stands for as a brand a brand a brand and then I'm Dr Charles tabone on the and then I'm Dr Charles tabone on the and then I'm Dr Charles tabone on the naturopathic medical doctor with Paw naturopathic medical doctor with Paw naturopathic medical doctor with Paw Studios and uh and we also dive into a Studios and uh and we also dive into a Studios and uh and we also dive into a little the science behind some of the little the science behind some of the little the science behind some of the modalities that we have at pause and and modalities that we have at pause and and modalities that we have at pause and and why people would benefit from both a why people would benefit from both a why people would benefit from both a mental performance cognitive sort of mental performance cognitive sort of mental performance cognitive sort of level level level [Music] [Music] [Music] we're here well guys welcome we're here well guys welcome we're here well guys welcome um um um I want to first of all like just I want to first of all like just I want to first of all like just acknowledge the work that you all do and
01:00acknowledge the work that you all do and acknowledge the work that you all do and the services you provide because I know the services you provide because I know the services you provide because I know I've been talking about it on the I've been talking about it on the I've been talking about it on the podcast here for a long time but anybody podcast here for a long time but anybody podcast here for a long time but anybody who's been a part of my journey on any who's been a part of my journey on any who's been a part of my journey on any other platform in real life other platform in real life other platform in real life um the last um the last um the last four years almost four years modality four years almost four years modality four years almost four years modality such as IR sauna cold plunge and just such as IR sauna cold plunge and just such as IR sauna cold plunge and just the whole concept of intentional and the whole concept of intentional and the whole concept of intentional and consistent recovery has really really consistent recovery has really really consistent recovery has really really helped me in so many ways so to that I helped me in so many ways so to that I helped me in so many ways so to that I say thank you but I want to just crack say thank you but I want to just crack say thank you but I want to just crack it open more you know recovery I think it open more you know recovery I think it open more you know recovery I think has kind of become a trending thing but has kind of become a trending thing but has kind of become a trending thing but in my opinion a good Trend people are in my opinion a good Trend people are in my opinion a good Trend people are really seeing of all walks of life high really seeing of all walks of life high really seeing of all walks of life high performance athletes to stay-at-home performance athletes to stay-at-home performance athletes to stay-at-home dads and moms and teenagers and dads and moms and teenagers and dads and moms and teenagers and everything in between like consistent everything in between like consistent everything in between like consistent and intentional recovery is actually and intentional recovery is actually and intentional recovery is actually beneficial for the masses right 100 100 beneficial for the masses right 100 100 beneficial for the masses right 100 100 why is that why is that why is that because 21st century living is crazy you
02:00because 21st century living is crazy you because 21st century living is crazy you know we're constantly connected 24 7. know we're constantly connected 24 7. know we're constantly connected 24 7. we're working harder than ever before I we're working harder than ever before I we're working harder than ever before I think I just recently read an article think I just recently read an article think I just recently read an article that the United States over to Japan is that the United States over to Japan is that the United States over to Japan is the hardest working economy in the world the hardest working economy in the world the hardest working economy in the world really which is banana really yeah really which is banana really yeah really which is banana really yeah um it ain't in L.A um it ain't in L.A um it ain't in L.A well working smarter not hotter I don't well working smarter not hotter I don't well working smarter not hotter I don't know but know but know but um we work out harder in gyms ever than um we work out harder in gyms ever than um we work out harder in gyms ever than before hit training CrossFit Peloton before hit training CrossFit Peloton before hit training CrossFit Peloton we're basically you know beating beating we're basically you know beating beating we're basically you know beating beating ourselves up mentally and physically ourselves up mentally and physically ourselves up mentally and physically killing ourselves to stay alive every killing ourselves to stay alive every killing ourselves to stay alive every day day day um Mary the fact that we don't sleep um Mary the fact that we don't sleep um Mary the fact that we don't sleep well like lack of quality sleep is well like lack of quality sleep is well like lack of quality sleep is becoming an ear epidemic right sleep is becoming an ear epidemic right sleep is becoming an ear epidemic right sleep is foundational we need it foundational we need it foundational we need it um and I think that we're hitting the um and I think that we're hitting the um and I think that we're hitting the Tipping Point and I I have to say that I Tipping Point and I I have to say that I Tipping Point and I I have to say that I think covet helped get us to this think covet helped get us to this think covet helped get us to this Tipping Point where people are finally Tipping Point where people are finally Tipping Point where people are finally realizing that there's things that we realizing that there's things that we realizing that there's things that we can be doing that can really be couched can be doing that can really be couched can be doing that can really be couched as preventative health like this stuff as preventative health like this stuff as preventative health like this stuff is not a luxury anymore this is a is not a luxury anymore this is a is not a luxury anymore this is a necessity necessity necessity um um yeah so I completely agree and you're yeah so I completely agree and you're yeah so I completely agree and you're saying like it's become trendy which I saying like it's become trendy which I saying like it's become trendy which I suppose it is but like
03:00suppose it is but like suppose it is but like I think it's trendy because people are I think it's trendy because people are I think it's trendy because people are realizing it actually has utility and we realizing it actually has utility and we realizing it actually has utility and we probably did a lot more recovery a lot probably did a lot more recovery a lot probably did a lot more recovery a lot better sleep before and kind of life has better sleep before and kind of life has better sleep before and kind of life has caught up with us and it's gotten way caught up with us and it's gotten way caught up with us and it's gotten way worse of late and then covered worse of late and then covered worse of late and then covered potentially was that necessary breaks potentially was that necessary breaks potentially was that necessary breaks that people were told to to put on yeah that people were told to to put on yeah that people were told to to put on yeah you know when we talk about you know and you know when we talk about you know and you know when we talk about you know and Charles can speak to this is when we Charles can speak to this is when we Charles can speak to this is when we talk about infrared sauna when we talk talk about infrared sauna when we talk talk about infrared sauna when we talk about cold Plunge when we talk about the about cold Plunge when we talk about the about cold Plunge when we talk about the Solitude of flotation therapy Solitude of flotation therapy Solitude of flotation therapy these aren't new philosophies yeah right these aren't new philosophies yeah right these aren't new philosophies yeah right these are age-old these are age-old these are age-old um um philosophies to help but like people philosophies to help but like people philosophies to help but like people hundreds of years ago knew the benefits hundreds of years ago knew the benefits hundreds of years ago knew the benefits of the stuff of the stuff of the stuff doing it built their empire off of doing it built their empire off of doing it built their empire off of chilling or not Heaton uh in a you know chilling or not Heaton uh in a you know chilling or not Heaton uh in a you know a seam bath and in the bath just like a seam bath and in the bath just like a seam bath and in the bath just like for the body but also for the mind yeah for the body but also for the mind yeah for the body but also for the mind yeah you'd probably argue probably almost all you'd probably argue probably almost all you'd probably argue probably almost all cultures have some level of that right cultures have some level of that right cultures have some level of that right whether it's hot springs whether it's whether it's hot springs whether it's whether it's hot springs whether it's baths whether it's saunas in Finland baths whether it's saunas in Finland baths whether it's saunas in Finland like there's so much of that so yeah like there's so much of that so yeah like there's so much of that so yeah Jeff he's just trying to bring it to the Jeff he's just trying to bring it to the Jeff he's just trying to bring it to the masses right yeah it's like as much as
04:00masses right yeah it's like as much as masses right yeah it's like as much as Paws would like to be like we're this Paws would like to be like we're this Paws would like to be like we're this you know we've developed all these new you know we've developed all these new you know we've developed all these new techniques to make you feel better to techniques to make you feel better to techniques to make you feel better to you know to optimize your life well you know to optimize your life well you know to optimize your life well these have been around for centuries so these have been around for centuries so these have been around for centuries so we can't take credit for that yeah you we can't take credit for that yeah you we can't take credit for that yeah you know we're just bringing them together know we're just bringing them together know we're just bringing them together in a way in a way in a way that demystifies these modalities you that demystifies these modalities you that demystifies these modalities you know like a quick story you know I quit know like a quick story you know I quit know like a quick story you know I quit a corporate job a corporate job a corporate job my wife and I were trying to get my wife and I were trying to get my wife and I were trying to get pregnant we were not successful I was pregnant we were not successful I was pregnant we were not successful I was stressed out every day stressed out every day stressed out every day probably not being a very good person probably not being a very good person probably not being a very good person you know like realizing that I could be you know like realizing that I could be you know like realizing that I could be better a better partner a better husband better a better partner a better husband better a better partner a better husband a better friend a better friend a better friend and when did I floated and you know and when did I floated and you know and when did I floated and you know flotation therapies yeah floating I went flotation therapies yeah floating I went flotation therapies yeah floating I went to this disgusting place Chase I'm not to this disgusting place Chase I'm not to this disgusting place Chase I'm not going to name it yeah but it was gross I going to name it yeah but it was gross I going to name it yeah but it was gross I can imagine can imagine can imagine and I went late at night and I went late at night and I went late at night and the person working there said okay and the person working there said okay and the person working there said okay I'm going to put you in this get naked I'm going to put you in this get naked I'm going to put you in this get naked jump into this float tank and I'm Gonna jump into this float tank and I'm Gonna jump into this float tank and I'm Gonna Leave Leave Leave so lock yourself out so lock yourself out so lock yourself out you know lock the door on your way oh
05:00you know lock the door on your way oh you know lock the door on your way oh like literally leave literally left and like literally leave literally left and like literally leave literally left and I was like I was like I was like all right clearly I'm not as smart as I all right clearly I'm not as smart as I all right clearly I'm not as smart as I think I am because I'm getting naked I'm think I am because I'm getting naked I'm think I am because I'm getting naked I'm jumping in this body of water at 11 jumping in this body of water at 11 jumping in this body of water at 11 o'clock at night o'clock at night o'clock at night and I'm alone I'm sure it was in this and I'm alone I'm sure it was in this and I'm alone I'm sure it was in this sport environment sport environment sport environment even with all that when I got to that even with all that when I got to that even with all that when I got to that first float I felt transformed I felt first float I felt transformed I felt first float I felt transformed I felt like I was 20 years younger wow like I like I was 20 years younger wow like I like I was 20 years younger wow like I literally felt like I was 20 years like literally felt like I was 20 years like literally felt like I was 20 years like I remember what happened in there I laid I remember what happened in there I laid I remember what happened in there I laid in this water in this water in this water hopefully it was clean hopefully it was clean hopefully it was clean um and I dropped into you know my brain um and I dropped into you know my brain um and I dropped into you know my brain frequency shifted I dropped into a place frequency shifted I dropped into a place frequency shifted I dropped into a place where I was literally where I was literally where I was literally meditating like forced to meditate meditating like forced to meditate meditating like forced to meditate basically in and out of being conscious basically in and out of being conscious basically in and out of being conscious um and when in that state there's a lot um and when in that state there's a lot um and when in that state there's a lot of magical things that have you know of magical things that have you know of magical things that have you know that happen in terms of stress the that happen in terms of stress the that happen in terms of stress the stress hormone you know cortisol being stress hormone you know cortisol being stress hormone you know cortisol being stopped and natural endorphins lifting stopped and natural endorphins lifting stopped and natural endorphins lifting um but um but um but I felt so refreshed that I wanted to I felt so refreshed that I wanted to I felt so refreshed that I wanted to share that experience with everybody I
06:00share that experience with everybody I share that experience with everybody I know the problem was there was nowhere know the problem was there was nowhere know the problem was there was nowhere to do it nowhere to do it that was warm to do it nowhere to do it that was warm to do it nowhere to do it that was warm that was clean that was uh that you that was clean that was uh that you that was clean that was uh that you didn't have to run the operation to didn't have to run the operation to didn't have to run the operation to apparently exactly like you know I had apparently exactly like you know I had apparently exactly like you know I had to end up you know mopping the floor to end up you know mopping the floor to end up you know mopping the floor when I was I'm just kidding but but when I was I'm just kidding but but when I was I'm just kidding but but anyways so anyways so anyways so um these modalities you know we're um these modalities you know we're um these modalities you know we're bringing them together in a way that's bringing them together in a way that's bringing them together in a way that's curated there's an experience behind it curated there's an experience behind it curated there's an experience behind it and people feel comfortable people are and people feel comfortable people are and people feel comfortable people are trusting what they're doing at Paws and trusting what they're doing at Paws and trusting what they're doing at Paws and that's all by Design that's all by Design that's all by Design you know and all of them like there's you know and all of them like there's you know and all of them like there's nothing really gimmicky there everything nothing really gimmicky there everything nothing really gimmicky there everything is trying to and it's such a good shape is trying to and it's such a good shape is trying to and it's such a good shape it's like Empower your body to heal it's like Empower your body to heal it's like Empower your body to heal itself type of thing right yeah so but itself type of thing right yeah so but itself type of thing right yeah so but in the right environment the body that in the right environment the body that in the right environment the body that craves homeostasis yeah exactly exactly craves homeostasis yeah exactly exactly craves homeostasis yeah exactly exactly right and and then using these sometimes right and and then using these sometimes right and and then using these sometimes they're all like little small hermetic they're all like little small hermetic they're all like little small hermetic stresses but you're trying to get the stresses but you're trying to get the stresses but you're trying to get the body to then respond in kind and what I body to then respond in kind and what I body to then respond in kind and what I love about it like some of these love about it like some of these love about it like some of these modalities when I first heard about modalities when I first heard about modalities when I first heard about floats for instance it was all through floats for instance it was all through floats for instance it was all through the biohacking community but like the biohacking community but like the biohacking community but like sometimes biohacking is very whatever sometimes biohacking is very whatever sometimes biohacking is very whatever they do all sorts of stuff that is they do all sorts of stuff that is they do all sorts of stuff that is necessary they can be unique yeah yeah
07:00necessary they can be unique yeah yeah necessary they can be unique yeah yeah that crowd yeah but there are there are that crowd yeah but there are there are that crowd yeah but there are there are sometimes on the Forefront of something sometimes on the Forefront of something sometimes on the Forefront of something and this isn't this is all ancient and this isn't this is all ancient and this isn't this is all ancient practices but it's the idea that pause practices but it's the idea that pause practices but it's the idea that pause has selected these different modalities has selected these different modalities has selected these different modalities that actually work that aren't overly that actually work that aren't overly that actually work that aren't overly gimmicky and that support the body and gimmicky and that support the body and gimmicky and that support the body and healing itself so that's all amazing and healing itself so that's all amazing and healing itself so that's all amazing and amazing for Recovery amazing for so many amazing for Recovery amazing for so many amazing for Recovery amazing for so many different things right yeah yeah and um different things right yeah yeah and um different things right yeah yeah and um like you alluded to like you alluded to like you alluded to my 82 year old mom could benefit from my 82 year old mom could benefit from my 82 year old mom could benefit from services at paws services at paws services at paws my 18 year old niece who's like just a my 18 year old niece who's like just a my 18 year old niece who's like just a badass in Jiu Jitsu that beats herself badass in Jiu Jitsu that beats herself badass in Jiu Jitsu that beats herself up every day she can benefit from pause up every day she can benefit from pause up every day she can benefit from pause it's not specific towards a certain type it's not specific towards a certain type it's not specific towards a certain type of person like we're all kind of of person like we're all kind of of person like we're all kind of suffering from the same ailments right suffering from the same ailments right suffering from the same ailments right now and pause addresses a lot of those now and pause addresses a lot of those now and pause addresses a lot of those um so we are um so we are um so we are we're very inclusive we're very inclusive we're very inclusive um and it you spend one day sitting it um and it you spend one day sitting it um and it you spend one day sitting it in one of our comfortable sofas and paws in one of our comfortable sofas and paws in one of our comfortable sofas and paws and you'll see oh yeah I've been there and you'll see oh yeah I've been there and you'll see oh yeah I've been there all walks of life it's true all walks of all walks of life it's true all walks of all walks of life it's true all walks of life coming in there you know I'm
08:00life coming in there you know I'm life coming in there you know I'm curious when you went in curious when you went in curious when you went in um what was or did you have an intention um what was or did you have an intention um what was or did you have an intention going into the float tank it sounds like going into the float tank it sounds like going into the float tank it sounds like you were at a very stressful period of you were at a very stressful period of you were at a very stressful period of your life and was it just I just want to your life and was it just I just want to your life and was it just I just want to go somewhere where I don't have to think go somewhere where I don't have to think go somewhere where I don't have to think or are you going in like with an or are you going in like with an or are you going in like with an intention of meditation because I think intention of meditation because I think intention of meditation because I think my personal kind of takeaway is that my personal kind of takeaway is that my personal kind of takeaway is that with certain practices like a float tank with certain practices like a float tank with certain practices like a float tank or irsano or a lot of these are we still or irsano or a lot of these are we still or irsano or a lot of these are we still calling them alternative therapies I calling them alternative therapies I calling them alternative therapies I don't know a lot the perception is that don't know a lot the perception is that don't know a lot the perception is that their alternative is that I I have to be their alternative is that I I have to be their alternative is that I I have to be some kind of person first I have to be some kind of person first I have to be some kind of person first I have to be in some kind of physical or mental or in some kind of physical or mental or in some kind of physical or mental or even emotional state to even emotional state to even emotional state to believe it uh to go in to enjoy it and believe it uh to go in to enjoy it and believe it uh to go in to enjoy it and to get some kind of positive usually to get some kind of positive usually to get some kind of positive usually Health oriented outcome Health oriented outcome Health oriented outcome where were you on that Spectrum what was where were you on that Spectrum what was where were you on that Spectrum what was your intention going on did you have one your intention going on did you have one your intention going on did you have one and you know how can we paint this and you know how can we paint this and you know how can we paint this picture for the person maybe who wants picture for the person maybe who wants picture for the person maybe who wants to go in that doesn't happen for sure to go in that doesn't happen for sure to go in that doesn't happen for sure for sure so I didn't have a specific for sure so I didn't have a specific for sure so I didn't have a specific intent and you know except for the fact intent and you know except for the fact intent and you know except for the fact that I heard flotation therapy was great
09:00that I heard flotation therapy was great that I heard flotation therapy was great for relaxation like to just like you're for relaxation like to just like you're for relaxation like to just like you're like I just want to chill out I just like I just want to chill out I just like I just want to chill out I just want to chill out I just want to like want to chill out I just want to like want to chill out I just want to like shut off the outside world and do shut off the outside world and do shut off the outside world and do absolutely nothing when was the last absolutely nothing when was the last absolutely nothing when was the last time in my life I did absolutely nothing time in my life I did absolutely nothing time in my life I did absolutely nothing never you know so I went in with that never you know so I went in with that never you know so I went in with that kind of intent kind of intent kind of intent um um but I will say that but I will say that but I will say that you don't need to come in to do these you don't need to come in to do these you don't need to come in to do these Services I pause or anywhere else with Services I pause or anywhere else with Services I pause or anywhere else with intent like basically intent like basically intent like basically you going in like your body is already you going in like your body is already you going in like your body is already craving oh my God like the fruit of what craving oh my God like the fruit of what craving oh my God like the fruit of what you're gonna get from these services so you're gonna get from these services so you're gonna get from these services so you know mental intent or not you're you know mental intent or not you're you know mental intent or not you're gonna get it you know gonna get it you know gonna get it you know um and I definitely don't think these um and I definitely don't think these um and I definitely don't think these are alternative therapies I think we are alternative therapies I think we are alternative therapies I think we could drop off yeah yeah let's make that could drop off yeah yeah let's make that could drop off yeah yeah let's make that a thing now yeah let's get rid of that a thing now yeah let's get rid of that a thing now yeah let's get rid of that just like therapies yeah protocols yep just like therapies yeah protocols yep just like therapies yeah protocols yep yep yeah and I also like yep yeah and I also like yep yeah and I also like with float specifically you probably get with float specifically you probably get with float specifically you probably get what you need out of them so and really what you need out of them so and really what you need out of them so and really like we've had people come out of them like we've had people come out of them like we've had people come out of them and have to like Journal this Epiphany and have to like Journal this Epiphany and have to like Journal this Epiphany that they had whether that was this
10:00that they had whether that was this that they had whether that was this amazing breakthrough creatively or like amazing breakthrough creatively or like amazing breakthrough creatively or like coming out sobbing and crying because it coming out sobbing and crying because it coming out sobbing and crying because it has spent time finally processing has spent time finally processing has spent time finally processing something that I've been able to other something that I've been able to other something that I've been able to other people that are trying to get deeper people that are trying to get deeper people that are trying to get deeper into a meditation practice so they know into a meditation practice so they know into a meditation practice so they know how to sink into that but then not how to sink into that but then not how to sink into that but then not having the constant distractions which having the constant distractions which having the constant distractions which are part of life around that really did are part of life around that really did are part of life around that really did help them get that much further help them get that much further help them get that much further sometimes you just need to fall asleep sometimes you just need to fall asleep sometimes you just need to fall asleep and you just need a quiet place to do it and you just need a quiet place to do it and you just need a quiet place to do it and so it's nice and relaxing and then and so it's nice and relaxing and then and so it's nice and relaxing and then the downstream effects of actually the downstream effects of actually the downstream effects of actually getting true quality restful getting true quality restful getting true quality restful um recovery right my first full of tank um recovery right my first full of tank um recovery right my first full of tank experience I I went in just to like let experience I I went in just to like let experience I I went in just to like let me just check it out let me just see me just check it out let me just see me just check it out let me just see what it is I've been wanting to do it what it is I've been wanting to do it what it is I've been wanting to do it I've been hearing a lot of things about I've been hearing a lot of things about I've been hearing a lot of things about it I did it and I was like it I did it and I was like it I did it and I was like all right that's a thing all right that's a thing all right that's a thing um and then the second time I went in um and then the second time I went in um and then the second time I went in actually with an intention or kind of actually with an intention or kind of actually with an intention or kind of just maybe I think just having that just maybe I think just having that just maybe I think just having that experience my brain could actually experience my brain could actually experience my brain could actually relate to oh this is what we're quote relate to oh this is what we're quote relate to oh this is what we're quote maybe supposed to do or what we could maybe supposed to do or what we could maybe supposed to do or what we could experience in it experience in it experience in it um and after after that time I was like um and after after that time I was like um and after after that time I was like I get it yeah I get it I I and then I
11:00I get it yeah I get it I I and then I I get it yeah I get it I I and then I could reflect back on the first time and could reflect back on the first time and could reflect back on the first time and I think whether it's a float tank or I think whether it's a float tank or I think whether it's a float tank or anything maybe us as humans try to do to anything maybe us as humans try to do to anything maybe us as humans try to do to to chill to escape to relax to honor our to chill to escape to relax to honor our to chill to escape to relax to honor our minds and bodies minds and bodies minds and bodies it's what it's new for the first time it's what it's new for the first time it's what it's new for the first time right so we kind of have maybe a little right so we kind of have maybe a little right so we kind of have maybe a little bit of our walls are up some judgment bit of our walls are up some judgment bit of our walls are up some judgment some bias but also no relation there's some bias but also no relation there's some bias but also no relation there's no like I don't know what to think no like I don't know what to think no like I don't know what to think because I've never experienced it before because I've never experienced it before because I've never experienced it before but after that first time my second time but after that first time my second time but after that first time my second time my third time my fourth time and every my third time my fourth time and every my third time my fourth time and every time since then it's like I get it I time since then it's like I get it I time since then it's like I get it I know what I'm supposed to do I'm know what I'm supposed to do I'm know what I'm supposed to do I'm supposed to just be there and surrender supposed to just be there and surrender supposed to just be there and surrender and first of all it's incredible to just and first of all it's incredible to just and first of all it's incredible to just have time and space for 45 minutes to an have time and space for 45 minutes to an have time and space for 45 minutes to an hour to just do nothing to your point hour to just do nothing to your point hour to just do nothing to your point Jeff you know when's the last time we Jeff you know when's the last time we Jeff you know when's the last time we we've said that was that time we had we've said that was that time we had we've said that was that time we had that but then to go in all right now I that but then to go in all right now I that but then to go in all right now I know I have this container quite know I have this container quite know I have this container quite literally to do nothing what do I want literally to do nothing what do I want literally to do nothing what do I want to think about what do I want to to think about what do I want to to think about what do I want to accomplish or what do I what am I accomplish or what do I what am I accomplish or what do I what am I hopeful for it's like a great hopeful for it's like a great hopeful for it's like a great container I keep saying a word for that
12:00container I keep saying a word for that container I keep saying a word for that um but then what about the other stuff um but then what about the other stuff um but then what about the other stuff too uh so float tank has been incredible too uh so float tank has been incredible too uh so float tank has been incredible for a lot of different things but you for a lot of different things but you for a lot of different things but you know like IR sauna cold plunge and you know like IR sauna cold plunge and you know like IR sauna cold plunge and you know contrast therapy I think especially know contrast therapy I think especially know contrast therapy I think especially cold therapy right now is really really cold therapy right now is really really cold therapy right now is really really popular huge you know before we jump popular huge you know before we jump popular huge you know before we jump into that one more one more quick thing into that one more one more quick thing into that one more one more quick thing on floating is you know we're kind of on floating is you know we're kind of on floating is you know we're kind of we've talked a lot about the mental we've talked a lot about the mental we've talked a lot about the mental benefits of smoking and stress reduction benefits of smoking and stress reduction benefits of smoking and stress reduction and rest and rest and rest um but on the physical side um but on the physical side um but on the physical side if you're sore if you're sore if you're sore and you jump into a flow tank with the and you jump into a flow tank with the and you jump into a flow tank with the properties of what is happening during properties of what is happening during properties of what is happening during the float session you get out of that the float session you get out of that the float session you get out of that float tank you're not sore anymore every float tank you're not sore anymore every float tank you're not sore anymore every single NFL team has float tanks in their single NFL team has float tanks in their single NFL team has float tanks in their training centers now wow wow the Navy training centers now wow wow the Navy training centers now wow wow the Navy Seals float like so Seals float like so Seals float like so I know we're focusing a lot on floating I know we're focusing a lot on floating I know we're focusing a lot on floating right now but there's nothing else out right now but there's nothing else out right now but there's nothing else out there that I can think of that checks there that I can think of that checks there that I can think of that checks off mental and physical recovery as off mental and physical recovery as off mental and physical recovery as efficiently efficiently efficiently as flotation therapy wow yeah that's as flotation therapy wow yeah that's as flotation therapy wow yeah that's impressive completely and then I'll pick impressive completely and then I'll pick impressive completely and then I'll pick up on LSU yeah yeah I mean I would just
13:00up on LSU yeah yeah I mean I would just up on LSU yeah yeah I mean I would just say I mean who doesn't say I mean who doesn't say I mean who doesn't who most people what who doesn't want to who most people what who doesn't want to who most people what who doesn't want to be like a Navy SEAL who doesn't want to be like a Navy SEAL who doesn't want to be like a Navy SEAL who doesn't want to be like you know a high performance be like you know a high performance be like you know a high performance athlete I mean if we're after if I'm athlete I mean if we're after if I'm athlete I mean if we're after if I'm going to do something and if I know this going to do something and if I know this going to do something and if I know this person at this level is doing the same person at this level is doing the same person at this level is doing the same thing yep if I could just tap into a thing yep if I could just tap into a thing yep if I could just tap into a little bit of that that's little bit of that that's little bit of that that's me personally that's what I'm after me personally that's what I'm after me personally that's what I'm after absolutely absolutely absolutely and so that uh yeah yeah so like so I'm and so that uh yeah yeah so like so I'm and so that uh yeah yeah so like so I'm a naturopathic medical doctor in med a naturopathic medical doctor in med a naturopathic medical doctor in med school we learn about hydrotherapy we school we learn about hydrotherapy we school we learn about hydrotherapy we actually take courses on it we're like actually take courses on it we're like actually take courses on it we're like sitting in cold plunges and and we have sitting in cold plunges and and we have sitting in cold plunges and and we have to do training with like wrapping people to do training with like wrapping people to do training with like wrapping people in sheets to get them to get into these in sheets to get them to get into these in sheets to get them to get into these sweating sort of sweating sort of sweating sort of um episodes in order to try to elicit um episodes in order to try to elicit um episodes in order to try to elicit healing right so this is like part of healing right so this is like part of healing right so this is like part of ancient practice is it's something that ancient practice is it's something that ancient practice is it's something that we do in medicine and there's so much we do in medicine and there's so much we do in medicine and there's so much Downstream effect to again those little Downstream effect to again those little Downstream effect to again those little hermetic stresses that get your body to hermetic stresses that get your body to hermetic stresses that get your body to then elicit these um responses so then elicit these um responses so then elicit these um responses so whether you've got heat shock proteins whether you've got heat shock proteins whether you've got heat shock proteins from being in the sauna or cold shock from being in the sauna or cold shock from being in the sauna or cold shock proteins or the active shivering like I proteins or the active shivering like I proteins or the active shivering like I mean we can go into debt fund the mean we can go into debt fund the mean we can go into debt fund the benefit of all these things yeah there's benefit of all these things yeah there's benefit of all these things yeah there's so much benefit to it or even like the so much benefit to it or even like the so much benefit to it or even like the science like what what is like what is
14:00science like what what is like what is science like what what is like what is physiologically happening when we step physiologically happening when we step physiologically happening when we step foot into the coal plunge and the irsana foot into the coal plunge and the irsana foot into the coal plunge and the irsana for example yeah for example yeah for example yeah um yeah so I mean initially there's like um yeah so I mean initially there's like um yeah so I mean initially there's like the mental barrier to not wanting to get the mental barrier to not wanting to get the mental barrier to not wanting to get into the cold would be the very first into the cold would be the very first into the cold would be the very first thing right so then the fact that you thing right so then the fact that you thing right so then the fact that you overrode that to force yourself into it overrode that to force yourself into it overrode that to force yourself into it there's like you're exercising that there's like you're exercising that there's like you're exercising that muscle to do something hard I have a muscle to do something hard I have a muscle to do something hard I have a choice I have power I can do what I say choice I have power I can do what I say choice I have power I can do what I say I'm going to do right and do hard things I'm going to do right and do hard things I'm going to do right and do hard things yeah and I had a patient that was trying yeah and I had a patient that was trying yeah and I had a patient that was trying to quit smoking um this is a number of to quit smoking um this is a number of to quit smoking um this is a number of years ago and I wasn't working with years ago and I wasn't working with years ago and I wasn't working with pause at the time but uh but I ended up pause at the time but uh but I ended up pause at the time but uh but I ended up getting her to do cold showers in the getting her to do cold showers in the getting her to do cold showers in the morning as her thing to just like do morning as her thing to just like do morning as her thing to just like do something hard that you don't want to do something hard that you don't want to do something hard that you don't want to do and do it it gives you so like there's and do it it gives you so like there's and do it it gives you so like there's other things it gives you endorphins other things it gives you endorphins other things it gives you endorphins you'll get dopamine release and but also you'll get dopamine release and but also you'll get dopamine release and but also just the act of accomplishing a hard just the act of accomplishing a hard just the act of accomplishing a hard task then makes you be able to do other task then makes you be able to do other task then makes you be able to do other things and she quit smoking and things and she quit smoking and things and she quit smoking and attributed wow I should yeah like that's attributed wow I should yeah like that's attributed wow I should yeah like that's one of the things I really it was really one of the things I really it was really one of the things I really it was really just so anyways there's a lot of benefit just so anyways there's a lot of benefit just so anyways there's a lot of benefit to to cold and then when you actually to to cold and then when you actually to to cold and then when you actually get into the water then you're getting get into the water then you're getting get into the water then you're getting that vasoconstriction your blood's kind that vasoconstriction your blood's kind that vasoconstriction your blood's kind of shunting to your core so that is
15:00of shunting to your core so that is of shunting to your core so that is exercise to your vasculature and if exercise to your vasculature and if exercise to your vasculature and if you've paired that with being hot first you've paired that with being hot first you've paired that with being hot first you've dilated all your blood flows you've dilated all your blood flows you've dilated all your blood flows against periphery then you get that cold against periphery then you get that cold against periphery then you get that cold shock that is a great sort of exercise shock that is a great sort of exercise shock that is a great sort of exercise for the little capillaries and you'll for the little capillaries and you'll for the little capillaries and you'll end up increasing vascular flow vascular end up increasing vascular flow vascular end up increasing vascular flow vascular tone can help with blood flow so so many tone can help with blood flow so so many tone can help with blood flow so so many Downstream effects not to mention then Downstream effects not to mention then Downstream effects not to mention then you actually get cold start shivering you actually get cold start shivering you actually get cold start shivering that can increase your metabolic rate that can increase your metabolic rate that can increase your metabolic rate have brown fat green calories I mean I have brown fat green calories I mean I have brown fat green calories I mean I could go on and on and on and on about could go on and on and on and on about could go on and on and on and on about the science around how there's benefit the science around how there's benefit the science around how there's benefit to something like cold and then if you to something like cold and then if you to something like cold and then if you want to talk about IRS on it yeah kind want to talk about IRS on it yeah kind want to talk about IRS on it yeah kind of still on the cold aspect um contrast of still on the cold aspect um contrast of still on the cold aspect um contrast in particular because heat therapy and in particular because heat therapy and in particular because heat therapy and cold therapy I've been kind of in cold therapy I've been kind of in cold therapy I've been kind of in pursuit of for a while and it feels like pursuit of for a while and it feels like pursuit of for a while and it feels like I feel like that's been more abundant I feel like that's been more abundant I feel like that's been more abundant but now I kind of even see more of oh no but now I kind of even see more of oh no but now I kind of even see more of oh no no it's about contrast no it's about contrast no it's about contrast um they definitely both have their um they definitely both have their um they definitely both have their places right but you know is is it the places right but you know is is it the places right but you know is is it the contrast therapy of hot cold hot cold is contrast therapy of hot cold hot cold is contrast therapy of hot cold hot cold is that where we're really getting the most that where we're really getting the most that where we're really getting the most bang for a buck in terms of these bang for a buck in terms of these bang for a buck in terms of these recovery practices and overall Wellness recovery practices and overall Wellness recovery practices and overall Wellness yeah I think you'd probably benefit from
16:00yeah I think you'd probably benefit from yeah I think you'd probably benefit from doing just one or the other or both okay doing just one or the other or both okay doing just one or the other or both okay right yeah um so yeah but I think right yeah um so yeah but I think right yeah um so yeah but I think pairing it there is something unique pairing it there is something unique pairing it there is something unique that's going on so you're getting that that's going on so you're getting that that's going on so you're getting that the dilation and then constriction the dilation and then constriction the dilation and then constriction you're getting you're bringing blood you're getting you're bringing blood you're getting you're bringing blood flow to an area and then flushing it flow to an area and then flushing it flow to an area and then flushing it away then bringing new blooded area away then bringing new blooded area away then bringing new blooded area flushing it away that's going to be flushing it away that's going to be flushing it away that's going to be healing you're moving energy through healing you're moving energy through healing you're moving energy through that's something we don't normally do that's something we don't normally do that's something we don't normally do throughout the day right or yeah without throughout the day right or yeah without throughout the day right or yeah without without hardcore intentions such as without hardcore intentions such as without hardcore intentions such as maybe like rigorous exercise or maybe like rigorous exercise or maybe like rigorous exercise or something like that yeah in terms of the something like that yeah in terms of the something like that yeah in terms of the DraStic contrast so like sitting us on DraStic contrast so like sitting us on DraStic contrast so like sitting us on it is like an exercise it's like going it is like an exercise it's like going it is like an exercise it's like going for a jog essentially while you're for a jog essentially while you're for a jog essentially while you're sitting in there hear that everybody can sitting in there hear that everybody can sitting in there hear that everybody can do cardio sitting down it's great yeah do cardio sitting down it's great yeah do cardio sitting down it's great yeah you're still sweating but yeah yeah I you're still sweating but yeah yeah I you're still sweating but yeah yeah I give my cardio done seated yeah give my cardio done seated yeah give my cardio done seated yeah um yeah but yeah but there is something um yeah but yeah but there is something um yeah but yeah but there is something unique about the contrast and it helps unique about the contrast and it helps unique about the contrast and it helps you stay in the sauna sometimes for you stay in the sauna sometimes for you stay in the sauna sometimes for longer as well because you get longer as well because you get longer as well because you get bite-headed you feel sort of that you bite-headed you feel sort of that you bite-headed you feel sort of that you can't be in there and then getting that can't be in there and then getting that can't be in there and then getting that little bit of reprieve can be really little bit of reprieve can be really little bit of reprieve can be really beneficial to them let you prolong your beneficial to them let you prolong your beneficial to them let you prolong your sauna session so sauna session so sauna session so I uh I experienced the contrast for the I uh I experienced the contrast for the I uh I experienced the contrast for the first time actually in Apollo Studio not
17:00first time actually in Apollo Studio not first time actually in Apollo Studio not that long ago that long ago that long ago um and I found it actually to be um and I found it actually to be um and I found it actually to be more of a challenge more of a challenge more of a challenge um it was hot the irsana first and then um it was hot the irsana first and then um it was hot the irsana first and then the cold plunge I swear you all's coal the cold plunge I swear you all's coal the cold plunge I swear you all's coal plunges are the coldest I was like damn plunges are the coldest I was like damn plunges are the coldest I was like damn I've done cold lunch before this [ __ ] is I've done cold lunch before this [ __ ] is I've done cold lunch before this [ __ ] is cold cold cold um like I had to get out once I was like um like I had to get out once I was like um like I had to get out once I was like all right get back in all right get back in all right get back in um but the hot and then the cold the hot um but the hot and then the cold the hot um but the hot and then the cold the hot and then the cold I forget the exact and then the cold I forget the exact and then the cold I forget the exact protocol protocol protocol um I think it was like um I think it was like um I think it was like I think it was like 11 12 minutes sauna I think it was like 11 12 minutes sauna I think it was like 11 12 minutes sauna and then two or three minutes cold and then two or three minutes cold and then two or three minutes cold plunge and I did that I think for like plunge and I did that I think for like plunge and I did that I think for like 45 minutes to something 45 minutes to something 45 minutes to something um and it was way more challenging for um and it was way more challenging for um and it was way more challenging for me personally than just those individual me personally than just those individual me personally than just those individual modalities modalities modalities um so that's just like my my personal um so that's just like my my personal um so that's just like my my personal contribution to like yeah I think there contribution to like yeah I think there contribution to like yeah I think there is something to it is something to it is something to it um it's the contrast is we're talking um it's the contrast is we're talking um it's the contrast is we're talking hot we're talking really cold but to hot we're talking really cold but to hot we're talking really cold but to challenge yourself the mindset actually challenge yourself the mindset actually challenge yourself the mindset actually the choice to have to go in and out in the choice to have to go in and out in the choice to have to go in and out in and out you're making hard decisions and out you're making hard decisions and out you're making hard decisions physically and mentally you know in a
18:00physically and mentally you know in a physically and mentally you know in a very short period of time and so that's very short period of time and so that's very short period of time and so that's pretty cool that's pretty pretty pretty cool that's pretty pretty pretty cool that's pretty pretty powerful yeah yeah yeah I mean powerful yeah yeah yeah I mean powerful yeah yeah yeah I mean it's it's challenging but like on the it's it's challenging but like on the it's it's challenging but like on the other side of challenges change right other side of challenges change right other side of challenges change right like when you get out of that contrast like when you get out of that contrast like when you get out of that contrast therapy therapy therapy session I mean I feel like I can run session I mean I feel like I can run session I mean I feel like I can run through a wall I mean I'm not going to through a wall I mean I'm not going to through a wall I mean I'm not going to try it but like I feel like I could run try it but like I feel like I could run try it but like I feel like I could run I call it my Superman boothy you walk in I call it my Superman boothy you walk in I call it my Superman boothy you walk in Clark can't you walk out Superman yeah Clark can't you walk out Superman yeah Clark can't you walk out Superman yeah absolutely it's incredible absolutely absolutely it's incredible absolutely absolutely it's incredible absolutely but it is challenging yeah like anything but it is challenging yeah like anything but it is challenging yeah like anything worthwhile in life is challenging right worthwhile in life is challenging right worthwhile in life is challenging right like like like um um but I want to just kind of jump in on but I want to just kind of jump in on but I want to just kind of jump in on the infrared sauna yeah yeah so like the infrared sauna yeah yeah so like the infrared sauna yeah yeah so like even the inference on it by itself even the inference on it by itself even the inference on it by itself you know one of the one of the primary you know one of the one of the primary you know one of the one of the primary reasons why people come in for the reasons why people come in for the reasons why people come in for the infrared sauna sessions is because of infrared sauna sessions is because of infrared sauna sessions is because of immunity you know in the infrared sauna immunity you know in the infrared sauna immunity you know in the infrared sauna your core body temperature you know your core body temperature you know your core body temperature you know elevates so you kind of it's almost as elevates so you kind of it's almost as elevates so you kind of it's almost as if you're getting a fever and like the if you're getting a fever and like the if you're getting a fever and like the result of that is your body's producing result of that is your body's producing result of that is your body's producing you know white blood cells and such so you know white blood cells and such so you know white blood cells and such so it's kind of helping your immunity so it's kind of helping your immunity so it's kind of helping your immunity so every modality has its benefits you know
19:00every modality has its benefits you know every modality has its benefits you know so I don't know if you know contrast so I don't know if you know contrast so I don't know if you know contrast therapy is the best but it depends upon therapy is the best but it depends upon therapy is the best but it depends upon what it is that you're trying to get what it is that you're trying to get what it is that you're trying to get certainly right so yeah yeah and totally certainly right so yeah yeah and totally certainly right so yeah yeah and totally and then when you say like what was the and then when you say like what was the and then when you say like what was the protocol and that's why I wasn't protocol and that's why I wasn't protocol and that's why I wasn't necessarily nodding at on because I necessarily nodding at on because I necessarily nodding at on because I don't know what you did you weren't don't know what you did you weren't don't know what you did you weren't there yeah because like I sometimes will there yeah because like I sometimes will there yeah because like I sometimes will just spend an hour adjusting the sauna just spend an hour adjusting the sauna just spend an hour adjusting the sauna if I can and don't even touch the cold if I can and don't even touch the cold if I can and don't even touch the cold or I might just like put my hand in the or I might just like put my hand in the or I might just like put my hand in the cold to cool down my body temperature cold to cool down my body temperature cold to cool down my body temperature without cooling my entire core my without cooling my entire core my without cooling my entire core my muscles down so like really you can use muscles down so like really you can use muscles down so like really you can use these and pause is great for that you these and pause is great for that you these and pause is great for that you kind of it's a self-guided session kind of it's a self-guided session kind of it's a self-guided session you're in the room for yourself so what you're in the room for yourself so what you're in the room for yourself so what whatever you want to do with that half whatever you want to do with that half whatever you want to do with that half hour hour you're in there you're able to hour hour you're in there you're able to hour hour you're in there you're able to accomplish and sometimes it is it is accomplish and sometimes it is it is accomplish and sometimes it is it is totally but through what is beneficial totally but through what is beneficial totally but through what is beneficial to you so you can personalize it to to you so you can personalize it to to you so you can personalize it to exactly what you need or want right how exactly what you need or want right how exactly what you need or want right how can you guys help us kind of paint a can you guys help us kind of paint a can you guys help us kind of paint a picture for I I'm the person that I'm picture for I I'm the person that I'm picture for I I'm the person that I'm hearing about this stuff and I want to hearing about this stuff and I want to hearing about this stuff and I want to try it out but maybe I don't know which try it out but maybe I don't know which try it out but maybe I don't know which recovery technique is best for me or recovery technique is best for me or recovery technique is best for me or which one should I kind of go towards
20:00which one should I kind of go towards which one should I kind of go towards you know is float tank going to serve me you know is float tank going to serve me you know is float tank going to serve me more is IR sauna gonna serve me boys more is IR sauna gonna serve me boys more is IR sauna gonna serve me boys um red light therapy which we haven't um red light therapy which we haven't um red light therapy which we haven't gotten to but you know a lot of these gotten to but you know a lot of these gotten to but you know a lot of these things that you all I know have Under things that you all I know have Under things that you all I know have Under One Roof but just these modalities in One Roof but just these modalities in One Roof but just these modalities in general general general um is there one let's the collective um is there one let's the collective um is there one let's the collective human picture here uh human picture here uh human picture here uh this would be best served for someone this would be best served for someone this would be best served for someone like this you know or start here and like this you know or start here and like this you know or start here and then go to these kind of things you know then go to these kind of things you know then go to these kind of things you know and why and why and why yeah I mean I think it really does come yeah I mean I think it really does come yeah I mean I think it really does come down to intent like what what problem down to intent like what what problem down to intent like what what problem are you trying to solve you know for the are you trying to solve you know for the are you trying to solve you know for the most part yeah um yeah but I'll let you most part yeah um yeah but I'll let you most part yeah um yeah but I'll let you speak more towards you know yeah because speak more towards you know yeah because speak more towards you know yeah because it really is like what are you deficient it really is like what are you deficient it really is like what are you deficient in right and some sometimes this is just in right and some sometimes this is just in right and some sometimes this is just replacing like also tell people like replacing like also tell people like replacing like also tell people like don't even bother coming into pause like don't even bother coming into pause like don't even bother coming into pause like go hop in the ocean it's really cold go hop in the ocean it's really cold go hop in the ocean it's really cold right now like you don't necessarily on right now like you don't necessarily on right now like you don't necessarily on the west coast yeah right yeah like but the west coast yeah right yeah like but the west coast yeah right yeah like but sometimes it's really like the infrared sometimes it's really like the infrared sometimes it's really like the infrared sauna is amazing for your skin for sauna is amazing for your skin for sauna is amazing for your skin for activating your mitochondria but you're activating your mitochondria but you're activating your mitochondria but you're getting those that red light and the getting those that red light and the getting those that red light and the near infrared if you're out in the sun near infrared if you're out in the sun near infrared if you're out in the sun without getting burnt that's also a huge without getting burnt that's also a huge without getting burnt that's also a huge benefit so like sometimes we're just benefit so like sometimes we're just benefit so like sometimes we're just piggybacking off of what Nature has but
21:00piggybacking off of what Nature has but piggybacking off of what Nature has but if you're somebody who's deficient in if you're somebody who's deficient in if you're somebody who's deficient in sleep you're probably going to benefit sleep you're probably going to benefit sleep you're probably going to benefit from the float if you're somebody who from the float if you're somebody who from the float if you're somebody who never spends time outside and your skin never spends time outside and your skin never spends time outside and your skin is is showing it you might benefit from is is showing it you might benefit from is is showing it you might benefit from being in the red light or the sauna if being in the red light or the sauna if being in the red light or the sauna if you're so like it might just be you're so like it might just be you're so like it might just be depending on what you're deficient in depending on what you're deficient in depending on what you're deficient in then how can we repeat that you bring up then how can we repeat that you bring up then how can we repeat that you bring up an interesting point and I love talking an interesting point and I love talking an interesting point and I love talking about this stuff you know especially about this stuff you know especially about this stuff you know especially when we're talking like nutrition or when we're talking like nutrition or when we're talking like nutrition or supplementation or this hack or whatever supplementation or this hack or whatever supplementation or this hack or whatever um um talk me out of one of these therapies talk me out of one of these therapies talk me out of one of these therapies what can I do for free out in nature what can I do for free out in nature what can I do for free out in nature that I would even say we as a collective that I would even say we as a collective that I would even say we as a collective humans should start there to just you humans should start there to just you humans should start there to just you know build it into our lifestyle get a know build it into our lifestyle get a know build it into our lifestyle get a little bit of that positive feedback you little bit of that positive feedback you little bit of that positive feedback you know but then as we want to and choose know but then as we want to and choose know but then as we want to and choose to for specific reasons and intention to for specific reasons and intention to for specific reasons and intention come into a studio or come in and get come into a studio or come in and get come into a studio or come in and get something like that yeah totally so yeah something like that yeah totally so yeah something like that yeah totally so yeah so if you were just coming into just the so if you were just coming into just the so if you were just coming into just the sauna um and you're trying to get the sauna um and you're trying to get the sauna um and you're trying to get the benefit of infrared light then you can benefit of infrared light then you can benefit of infrared light then you can do that by getting it inside that's the do that by getting it inside that's the do that by getting it inside that's the main benefit of Iris on we're saying is main benefit of Iris on we're saying is main benefit of Iris on we're saying is I mean but like the heat as well so but
22:00I mean but like the heat as well so but I mean but like the heat as well so but but one of the benefits of it is you're but one of the benefits of it is you're but one of the benefits of it is you're getting heated up you're getting heated getting heated up you're getting heated getting heated up you're getting heated up a little deeper than you would in a up a little deeper than you would in a up a little deeper than you would in a traditional sort of like finish sauna traditional sort of like finish sauna traditional sort of like finish sauna where you're getting very hot on the where you're getting very hot on the where you're getting very hot on the outside it's not penetrating necessarily outside it's not penetrating necessarily outside it's not penetrating necessarily further into your body but but so you're further into your body but but so you're further into your body but but so you're getting the detoxification and all these getting the detoxification and all these getting the detoxification and all these things from heating yourself up and things from heating yourself up and things from heating yourself up and that's great benefit of sun and there's that's great benefit of sun and there's that's great benefit of sun and there's so much study around frequent sauna use so much study around frequent sauna use so much study around frequent sauna use for longevity so I don't want to for longevity so I don't want to for longevity so I don't want to Discount that but right yeah infrared Discount that but right yeah infrared Discount that but right yeah infrared are unique and near-infrared that are unique and near-infrared that are unique and near-infrared that Spectrum specifically is unique because Spectrum specifically is unique because Spectrum specifically is unique because it activates your mitochondria and helps it activates your mitochondria and helps it activates your mitochondria and helps them produce more ATP so you're getting them produce more ATP so you're getting them produce more ATP so you're getting that added benefit when you're going that added benefit when you're going that added benefit when you're going into the sauna and that's something that into the sauna and that's something that into the sauna and that's something that we're often like if you just support we're often like if you just support we're often like if you just support your mitochondria and if you if this is your mitochondria and if you if this is your mitochondria and if you if this is a biohacking podcast or everybody has a biohacking podcast or everybody has a biohacking podcast or everybody has heard the benefit of mitochondria like heard the benefit of mitochondria like heard the benefit of mitochondria like if you can turbocharge mitochondria if you can turbocharge mitochondria if you can turbocharge mitochondria you're you're going to work better on you're you're going to work better on you're you're going to work better on all facets of life so if we want to work all facets of life so if we want to work all facets of life so if we want to work better in all facets of Life uh here's better in all facets of Life uh here's better in all facets of Life uh here's an option for you which I think is an option for you which I think is an option for you which I think is everybody yeah everybody yeah everybody yeah um but you know I appreciate that and I um but you know I appreciate that and I um but you know I appreciate that and I love kind of highlighting things for
23:00love kind of highlighting things for love kind of highlighting things for free and also things that we should be free and also things that we should be free and also things that we should be incorporating or ideally incorporating incorporating or ideally incorporating incorporating or ideally incorporating into our lifestyle to just put a foot in into our lifestyle to just put a foot in into our lifestyle to just put a foot in to the human optimization experience and to the human optimization experience and to the human optimization experience and then if we feel like we need more we then if we feel like we need more we then if we feel like we need more we need less or want to make it a routine need less or want to make it a routine need less or want to make it a routine and I think there's a lot of power and and I think there's a lot of power and and I think there's a lot of power and carving out I'm gonna go here for this carving out I'm gonna go here for this carving out I'm gonna go here for this thing I'm gonna go to this place see thing I'm gonna go to this place see thing I'm gonna go to this place see this person for this reason there's a this person for this reason there's a this person for this reason there's a whole other level of healing there now whole other level of healing there now whole other level of healing there now we've kind of talked about it but we've kind of talked about it but we've kind of talked about it but um um maybe can we talk about what is going on maybe can we talk about what is going on maybe can we talk about what is going on with the power of intention behind it with the power of intention behind it with the power of intention behind it when we get our mind present our when we get our mind present our when we get our mind present our emotions our head and our heart with emotions our head and our heart with emotions our head and our heart with what we're doing physically is there what we're doing physically is there what we're doing physically is there another level of healing possible there another level of healing possible there another level of healing possible there you know what's what science got to say you know what's what science got to say you know what's what science got to say about that I would imagine but yeah yeah about that I would imagine but yeah yeah about that I would imagine but yeah yeah in terms of what scientists what do you in terms of what scientists what do you in terms of what scientists what do you personally believe is there is there personally believe is there is there personally believe is there is there power behind aligning and tension in The power behind aligning and tension in The power behind aligning and tension in The Head and the Heart To A recovery Head and the Heart To A recovery Head and the Heart To A recovery technique like this that technique like this that technique like this that can Elevate The Experience yeah I would can Elevate The Experience yeah I would can Elevate The Experience yeah I would say without question and like if you say without question and like if you say without question and like if you talk about what is Placebo and we still talk about what is Placebo and we still
24:00talk about what is Placebo and we still don't know what the placebo effect is don't know what the placebo effect is don't know what the placebo effect is but we know it is a huge thing and it's but we know it is a huge thing and it's but we know it is a huge thing and it's going to amplify the placebo effect going to amplify the placebo effect going to amplify the placebo effect you're going to get the best results in you're going to get the best results in you're going to get the best results in life right so by essentially empowering life right so by essentially empowering life right so by essentially empowering your body to heal itself if that is what your body to heal itself if that is what your body to heal itself if that is what Placebo is then like signing up Placebo is then like signing up Placebo is then like signing up everybody right so if you can align your everybody right so if you can align your everybody right so if you can align your practices around that or set an practices around that or set an practices around that or set an intention and try to intention and try to intention and try to um yeah then elicit change as a result um yeah then elicit change as a result um yeah then elicit change as a result of that I think that's a huge huge huge of that I think that's a huge huge huge of that I think that's a huge huge huge benefit so I'm not saying any of these benefit so I'm not saying any of these benefit so I'm not saying any of these modalities are amplifying Placebo but if modalities are amplifying Placebo but if modalities are amplifying Placebo but if you went in with that mentality you you went in with that mentality you you went in with that mentality you probably would have a better chance of probably would have a better chance of probably would have a better chance of of getting the response that you're of getting the response that you're of getting the response that you're hoping for yeah yeah I think we believe hoping for yeah yeah I think we believe hoping for yeah yeah I think we believe you know the mind has the ability to do you know the mind has the ability to do you know the mind has the ability to do many wonderful things we just don't many wonderful things we just don't many wonderful things we just don't really listen to it really listen to it really listen to it um right so like for example when you're um right so like for example when you're um right so like for example when you're in a float tank in a float tank in a float tank without the you know sensory input without the you know sensory input without the you know sensory input there's no you know visual stimulation there's no you know visual stimulation there's no you know visual stimulation there's no auditory stimulation there's there's no auditory stimulation there's there's no auditory stimulation there's no sensation of touch no sensation of touch no sensation of touch your mind literally stops like thinking your mind literally stops like thinking your mind literally stops like thinking and that's when your conscious mind is
25:00and that's when your conscious mind is and that's when your conscious mind is out and then your subconscious mind is out and then your subconscious mind is out and then your subconscious mind is able to actually take your brain power able to actually take your brain power able to actually take your brain power and do uh what it wants to with it yeah and do uh what it wants to with it yeah and do uh what it wants to with it yeah so intention is key like yeah if you so intention is key like yeah if you so intention is key like yeah if you have emotional have emotional have emotional um um you know an emotional block that you you know an emotional block that you you know an emotional block that you need to address when you drop into that need to address when you drop into that need to address when you drop into that place and your mind knows that's what place and your mind knows that's what place and your mind knows that's what you need when your conscious mind falls you need when your conscious mind falls you need when your conscious mind falls asleep asleep asleep then you can go ahead and take care of then you can go ahead and take care of then you can go ahead and take care of that if you have you know a torn that if you have you know a torn that if you have you know a torn Achilles right and your mind and body Achilles right and your mind and body Achilles right and your mind and body knows that you have to focus on that knows that you have to focus on that knows that you have to focus on that Achilles when you shut off all Achilles when you shut off all Achilles when you shut off all stimulation it's able to understand stimulation it's able to understand stimulation it's able to understand where the areas of need are and it's where the areas of need are and it's where the areas of need are and it's able to address those areas of need so able to address those areas of need so able to address those areas of need so true the mind is I I know what that true the mind is I I know what that true the mind is I I know what that statistic is but you know they say like statistic is but you know they say like statistic is but you know they say like we use like seven percent of them right we use like seven percent of them right we use like seven percent of them right you know seven percent of the capacity you know seven percent of the capacity you know seven percent of the capacity of our brain or something like that of our brain or something like that of our brain or something like that definitely more after uh floating I definitely more after uh floating I definitely more after uh floating I think I mean I'd say at least eight think I mean I'd say at least eight think I mean I'd say at least eight percent after you come to pause you know percent after you come to pause you know percent after you come to pause you know um but yeah the mind has the ability too um but yeah the mind has the ability too um but yeah the mind has the ability too um kind of one quick note is kind of um kind of one quick note is kind of um kind of one quick note is kind of Charles touch on it but
26:00Charles touch on it but Charles touch on it but you know one of the beautiful things you know one of the beautiful things you know one of the beautiful things about our brand and about our experience about our brand and about our experience about our brand and about our experience is that it is self-guided it's listen to is that it is self-guided it's listen to is that it is self-guided it's listen to your body you know there's no wrong way your body you know there's no wrong way your body you know there's no wrong way or right way to do a lot of these or right way to do a lot of these or right way to do a lot of these Services it's about listening to what Services it's about listening to what Services it's about listening to what you need and how you feel you know we're you need and how you feel you know we're you need and how you feel you know we're not standing over you telling you not standing over you telling you not standing over you telling you exactly how to do something we don't exactly how to do something we don't exactly how to do something we don't need that like there's enough of that need that like there's enough of that need that like there's enough of that like yeah it's not like a recovery you like yeah it's not like a recovery you like yeah it's not like a recovery you know personal trainer no it's just know personal trainer no it's just know personal trainer no it's just saying here's the space for these things saying here's the space for these things saying here's the space for these things go on about your business yeah I mean go on about your business yeah I mean go on about your business yeah I mean that's that's really it is like there's that's that's really it is like there's that's that's really it is like there's so many there's so much information out so many there's so much information out so many there's so much information out there right yeah some real some may be there right yeah some real some may be there right yeah some real some may be real some totally false you know but real some totally false you know but real some totally false you know but what's Real is how you feel how you feel what's Real is how you feel how you feel what's Real is how you feel how you feel as a human being how your mind feels and as a human being how your mind feels and as a human being how your mind feels and that's what we try to encourage people that's what we try to encourage people that's what we try to encourage people to do when they're in a session of pause to do when they're in a session of pause to do when they're in a session of pause yeah just listen to yourself I'm so glad yeah just listen to yourself I'm so glad yeah just listen to yourself I'm so glad you said that Jeff and it kind of you said that Jeff and it kind of you said that Jeff and it kind of reminds me it's kind of piggyback off of reminds me it's kind of piggyback off of reminds me it's kind of piggyback off of the placebo effect I mean first and the placebo effect I mean first and the placebo effect I mean first and foremost there is science and studies foremost there is science and studies foremost there is science and studies showing the placebo effect is a real
27:00showing the placebo effect is a real showing the placebo effect is a real thing what the Mind believes becomes our thing what the Mind believes becomes our thing what the Mind believes becomes our reality you know it might take one reality you know it might take one reality you know it might take one experience it might take a compounding experience it might take a compounding experience it might take a compounding effect of days weeks months years but effect of days weeks months years but effect of days weeks months years but whatever we experience up here whatever we experience up here whatever we experience up here translates to what we believe to be our translates to what we believe to be our translates to what we believe to be our truth and I think there's a truth and I think there's a truth and I think there's a I think there's another part of the I think there's another part of the I think there's another part of the market out there that believes that more market out there that believes that more market out there that believes that more about certain things like this oh like about certain things like this oh like about certain things like this oh like oh it's [ __ ] oh there's no science oh it's [ __ ] oh there's no science oh it's [ __ ] oh there's no science it's not real you're making it up but it's not real you're making it up but it's not real you're making it up but you know you're wasting your money you know you're wasting your money you know you're wasting your money but I'll tell you I a lot of these a lot but I'll tell you I a lot of these a lot but I'll tell you I a lot of these a lot of these modalities I used to kind of of these modalities I used to kind of of these modalities I used to kind of think that or I was just like I don't think that or I was just like I don't think that or I was just like I don't know it doesn't seem legit doesn't seem know it doesn't seem legit doesn't seem know it doesn't seem legit doesn't seem real but real but real but I make it real I make it real I make it real I go in and when I do whatever I'm doing I go in and when I do whatever I'm doing I go in and when I do whatever I'm doing first and foremost there's intention first and foremost there's intention first and foremost there's intention there's the time carved out I'm not there's the time carved out I'm not there's the time carved out I'm not doing anything else I can finally be doing anything else I can finally be doing anything else I can finally be present in my body I can let my head and present in my body I can let my head and present in my body I can let my head and my heart finally have a space to connect my heart finally have a space to connect my heart finally have a space to connect and I'm being challenged at the same and I'm being challenged at the same and I'm being challenged at the same time I'm being challenged through
28:00time I'm being challenged through time I'm being challenged through trying not to focus by I'm being trying not to focus by I'm being trying not to focus by I'm being challenged by floating in a deprivation challenged by floating in a deprivation challenged by floating in a deprivation tank and being challenged by freezing my tank and being challenged by freezing my tank and being challenged by freezing my ass off I'm being challenged by sweating ass off I'm being challenged by sweating ass off I'm being challenged by sweating my ass off or just being still for my ass off or just being still for my ass off or just being still for however long you know the the red light however long you know the the red light however long you know the the red light therapy is which I think there's so much therapy is which I think there's so much therapy is which I think there's so much that goes on in there that we can't that goes on in there that we can't that goes on in there that we can't maybe quite yet comprehend or give maybe quite yet comprehend or give maybe quite yet comprehend or give rationale to so outside looking in it rationale to so outside looking in it rationale to so outside looking in it seems like that's not real that's seems like that's not real that's seems like that's not real that's [ __ ] but when you're in there it is [ __ ] but when you're in there it is [ __ ] but when you're in there it is very real very real very real and so I think the realness is what we and so I think the realness is what we and so I think the realness is what we make it and then when we walk in with make it and then when we walk in with make it and then when we walk in with one belief we walk out maybe one time or one belief we walk out maybe one time or one belief we walk out maybe one time or many times like we're changing our many times like we're changing our many times like we're changing our belief system of what is possible maybe belief system of what is possible maybe belief system of what is possible maybe for human beings but for our own selves for human beings but for our own selves for human beings but for our own selves how powerful is that yeah how powerful how powerful is that yeah how powerful how powerful is that yeah how powerful is that is that is that absolutely um and I want to yeah speaking of um and I want to yeah speaking of healing you're a Healer uh uh doctor
29:00healing you're a Healer uh uh doctor healing you're a Healer uh uh doctor naturopathic physician and you're naturopathic physician and you're naturopathic physician and you're talking about kind of these different talking about kind of these different talking about kind of these different approaches you had in your training approaches you had in your training approaches you had in your training um to what we're talking about and um to what we're talking about and um to what we're talking about and can you just share a little bit of your can you just share a little bit of your can you just share a little bit of your experience with that because I think to experience with that because I think to experience with that because I think to someone listening it's like oh wow a someone listening it's like oh wow a someone listening it's like oh wow a doctor was actually trained in these doctor was actually trained in these doctor was actually trained in these things it's not just somebody you know things it's not just somebody you know things it's not just somebody you know talking about it because I know MD's not talking about it because I know MD's not talking about it because I know MD's not to kind of like cast a shadow but I mean to kind of like cast a shadow but I mean to kind of like cast a shadow but I mean especially in just Bare Bones and especially in just Bare Bones and especially in just Bare Bones and nutrition I mean I don't know if it's nutrition I mean I don't know if it's nutrition I mean I don't know if it's changed but I know a lot of MDS it's changed but I know a lot of MDS it's changed but I know a lot of MDS it's like nutrition even was just like an like nutrition even was just like an like nutrition even was just like an elective so it's like to get to True elective so it's like to get to True elective so it's like to get to True real healing that we're talking about real healing that we're talking about real healing that we're talking about here in my opinion here in my opinion here in my opinion um like you're actually getting trained um like you're actually getting trained um like you're actually getting trained there are a whole there's a whole other there are a whole there's a whole other there are a whole there's a whole other class of healers out there that are class of healers out there that are class of healers out there that are getting the training on this stuff so getting the training on this stuff so getting the training on this stuff so that I can then go learn from yeah I that I can then go learn from yeah I that I can then go learn from yeah I really like so as a naturopathic doctor really like so as a naturopathic doctor really like so as a naturopathic doctor we're trained in eastern and western we're trained in eastern and western we're trained in eastern and western medicine medicine medicine um you have to do undergraduate and then um you have to do undergraduate and then um you have to do undergraduate and then you also do four years of medical school you also do four years of medical school you also do four years of medical school and you can do residency afterwards if and you can do residency afterwards if and you can do residency afterwards if you wish and like so nutrition I think I you wish and like so nutrition I think I you wish and like so nutrition I think I had over 100 hours of wow and then plus
30:00had over 100 hours of wow and then plus had over 100 hours of wow and then plus my own like reading my own books and my own like reading my own books and my own like reading my own books and interest in my own podcast and my own interest in my own podcast and my own interest in my own podcast and my own exploration because I'm just interested exploration because I'm just interested exploration because I'm just interested in it right but like in it right but like in it right but like the whole idea is and it's the cliche I the whole idea is and it's the cliche I the whole idea is and it's the cliche I said but like how can we empower the said but like how can we empower the said but like how can we empower the body to heal itself and how can you just body to heal itself and how can you just body to heal itself and how can you just remove obstacles to heal and then make remove obstacles to heal and then make remove obstacles to heal and then make out for deficiencies remove excesses and out for deficiencies remove excesses and out for deficiencies remove excesses and and help support you on that Quest right and help support you on that Quest right and help support you on that Quest right so and I break it down to Five Pillars so and I break it down to Five Pillars so and I break it down to Five Pillars but like Diet is one of them sleep and but like Diet is one of them sleep and but like Diet is one of them sleep and rest is one of them movement exercise it rest is one of them movement exercise it rest is one of them movement exercise it would be one of them social and would be one of them social and would be one of them social and connection would be another thing nature connection would be another thing nature connection would be another thing nature is another thing so like these are all is another thing so like these are all is another thing so like these are all very important in medical school we very important in medical school we very important in medical school we learn all of these things both the learn all of these things both the learn all of these things both the science around why something like Asana science around why something like Asana science around why something like Asana would be beneficial to you for would be beneficial to you for would be beneficial to you for liquefying the gel Matrix inside of your liquefying the gel Matrix inside of your liquefying the gel Matrix inside of your cells to try to push out something that cells to try to push out something that cells to try to push out something that might be a toxin within it right like might be a toxin within it right like might be a toxin within it right like that's and I can get very nuancy in that's and I can get very nuancy in that's and I can get very nuancy in science around something that sounds science around something that sounds science around something that sounds woolly but like there's a lot of woolly but like there's a lot of woolly but like there's a lot of um logic in a lot of these modalities um logic in a lot of these modalities um logic in a lot of these modalities and we touch on all that from the and we touch on all that from the and we touch on all that from the science but then also through the science but then also through the science but then also through the traditional sort of and Eastern traditional sort of and Eastern traditional sort of and Eastern philosophy as to how would Chinese
31:00philosophy as to how would Chinese philosophy as to how would Chinese medicine speak to the movement of energy medicine speak to the movement of energy medicine speak to the movement of energy and Qi and and through the body right so and Qi and and through the body right so and Qi and and through the body right so that's all something we learn in school that's all something we learn in school that's all something we learn in school um touch on is why I was excited by um touch on is why I was excited by um touch on is why I was excited by pause and the modalities here because pause and the modalities here because pause and the modalities here because it's all something I believe in and I it's all something I believe in and I it's all something I believe in and I know has actual science to back up as know has actual science to back up as know has actual science to back up as well as ancient practice which in itself well as ancient practice which in itself well as ancient practice which in itself is science through experience right do is science through experience right do is science through experience right do you think are you seeing a maybe a like you think are you seeing a maybe a like you think are you seeing a maybe a like a paradigm shift in people's um demand a paradigm shift in people's um demand a paradigm shift in people's um demand for this type of medical care you know for this type of medical care you know for this type of medical care you know aside from these we're not calling them aside from these we're not calling them aside from these we're not calling them alternative therapies anymore from alternative therapies anymore from alternative therapies anymore from Museum of therapies but you know Museum of therapies but you know Museum of therapies but you know traditional Medical Care are you seeing traditional Medical Care are you seeing traditional Medical Care are you seeing a paradigm shift on your end totally and a paradigm shift on your end totally and a paradigm shift on your end totally and I think also when you go and spend time I think also when you go and spend time I think also when you go and spend time speaking with medical doctors which I do speaking with medical doctors which I do speaking with medical doctors which I do they also see the Gap in their knowledge they also see the Gap in their knowledge they also see the Gap in their knowledge sometimes and the need for this and they sometimes and the need for this and they sometimes and the need for this and they wish they had an hour to speak to a wish they had an hour to speak to a wish they had an hour to speak to a patient and really try to help them patient and really try to help them patient and really try to help them through diet because that's probably through diet because that's probably through diet because that's probably what they need and they wish they had what they need and they wish they had what they need and they wish they had their own education to help them truly their own education to help them truly their own education to help them truly on diet versus what the food pyramid on diet versus what the food pyramid on diet versus what the food pyramid says which is a whole other conversation says which is a whole other conversation says which is a whole other conversation is this little thing apparently I think
32:00is this little thing apparently I think is this little thing apparently I think it's a plate now and that's also it's a plate now and that's also it's a plate now and that's also probably just as bad but anyways probably just as bad but anyways probably just as bad but anyways um yeah so so I think we it's not like um yeah so so I think we it's not like um yeah so so I think we it's not like it's not East versus West anymore and I it's not East versus West anymore and I it's not East versus West anymore and I think a lot of Western trading doctors think a lot of Western trading doctors think a lot of Western trading doctors also understand the benefit of a lot of also understand the benefit of a lot of also understand the benefit of a lot of these ancient practices and there these ancient practices and there these ancient practices and there probably was more of like a a war or probably was more of like a a war or probably was more of like a a war or trying to discredit people and I don't trying to discredit people and I don't trying to discredit people and I don't know what happened 100 years ago in know what happened 100 years ago in know what happened 100 years ago in terms of this dichotomy between terms of this dichotomy between terms of this dichotomy between allopathic medicine and sort of Western allopathic medicine and sort of Western allopathic medicine and sort of Western modalities but it seems like it maybe modalities but it seems like it maybe modalities but it seems like it maybe it's all social media maybe it's just it's all social media maybe it's just it's all social media maybe it's just the free flow of information that people the free flow of information that people the free flow of information that people have now gravitated back to these things have now gravitated back to these things have now gravitated back to these things that we know truly work and I think all that we know truly work and I think all that we know truly work and I think all walks of life are seeing it and research walks of life are seeing it and research walks of life are seeing it and research is now proving stuff we've known forever is now proving stuff we've known forever is now proving stuff we've known forever anyways so anyways so um shift gears a little bit Jeff I'm um shift gears a little bit Jeff I'm um shift gears a little bit Jeff I'm gonna you know we've got a lot of people gonna you know we've got a lot of people gonna you know we've got a lot of people in the audience that are well health in the audience that are well health in the audience that are well health Wellness oriented Wellness oriented Wellness oriented um you know living a life ever for it I um you know living a life ever for it I um you know living a life ever for it I say is kind of bringing attention and say is kind of bringing attention and say is kind of bringing attention and awareness to a lot of different aspects awareness to a lot of different aspects awareness to a lot of different aspects and modalities of life so that we can and modalities of life so that we can and modalities of life so that we can pinpoint one work on it add it to our pinpoint one work on it add it to our pinpoint one work on it add it to our toolbox and you know move on
33:00toolbox and you know move on toolbox and you know move on um and in that and in the audience there um and in that and in the audience there um and in that and in the audience there are a lot of people that are like all are a lot of people that are like all are a lot of people that are like all right I want to add this my toolbox I right I want to add this my toolbox I right I want to add this my toolbox I want to grow a business I want to you want to grow a business I want to you want to grow a business I want to you know make this a thing other than just know make this a thing other than just know make this a thing other than just what I'm doing for my own what I'm doing for my own what I'm doing for my own performance and cognition and wellness performance and cognition and wellness performance and cognition and wellness um what value does something like pause um what value does something like pause um what value does something like pause and you know these recovery techniques and you know these recovery techniques and you know these recovery techniques hold for a business owner you know is hold for a business owner you know is hold for a business owner you know is this the next big booming thing what are this the next big booming thing what are this the next big booming thing what are you seeing on kind of the business side you seeing on kind of the business side you seeing on kind of the business side of recovery I mean I think that of recovery I mean I think that of recovery I mean I think that yes I think it's I think this is a big yes I think it's I think this is a big yes I think it's I think this is a big thing you know and I think it's thing you know and I think it's thing you know and I think it's happening now but it's a big thing happening now but it's a big thing happening now but it's a big thing because there's people like us that are because there's people like us that are because there's people like us that are out there that are passionate about out there that are passionate about out there that are passionate about living better you know it's simple like living better you know it's simple like living better you know it's simple like everybody that I that I know has a everybody that I that I know has a everybody that I that I know has a desire to live better desire to live better desire to live better so you know from a business perspective so you know from a business perspective so you know from a business perspective when you can align with something and when you can align with something and when you can align with something and really be passionate about delivering really be passionate about delivering really be passionate about delivering that that that yeah it's it's the most incredible yeah it's it's the most incredible yeah it's it's the most incredible feeling in the world it's the most feeling in the world it's the most feeling in the world it's the most incredible feeling in the world I was a
34:00incredible feeling in the world I was a incredible feeling in the world I was a corporate guy for 15 plus years and you corporate guy for 15 plus years and you corporate guy for 15 plus years and you know it was fulfilling but it clearly know it was fulfilling but it clearly know it was fulfilling but it clearly took its toll it took a toll on me took its toll it took a toll on me took its toll it took a toll on me um and discovering these modalities and um and discovering these modalities and um and discovering these modalities and then driving towards designing and then driving towards designing and then driving towards designing and offering and inviting people from all offering and inviting people from all offering and inviting people from all walks of life to do these modalities is walks of life to do these modalities is walks of life to do these modalities is there's there's no there's no reward there's there's no there's no reward there's there's no there's no reward greater right it's like you know from a greater right it's like you know from a greater right it's like you know from a business perspective as we grow and we business perspective as we grow and we business perspective as we grow and we take on additional partners and you know take on additional partners and you know take on additional partners and you know franchisees and such franchisees and such franchisees and such it's a great business it's a booming it's a great business it's a booming it's a great business it's a booming business you're helping people you're business you're helping people you're business you're helping people you're helping yourself it's fun because you're helping yourself it's fun because you're helping yourself it's fun because you're interacting with all sorts of different interacting with all sorts of different interacting with all sorts of different types of people I mean it's it's types of people I mean it's it's types of people I mean it's it's everything it's everything everything it's everything everything it's everything we're um you know coming with your we're um you know coming with your we're um you know coming with your corporate background corporate background corporate background where do you see that type of person where do you see that type of person where do you see that type of person being served most by these recovery being served most by these recovery being served most by these recovery techniques uh are we on the cusp of you
35:00techniques uh are we on the cusp of you techniques uh are we on the cusp of you know in the boardroom there's also Asana know in the boardroom there's also Asana know in the boardroom there's also Asana or a coal plunge you know is it being or a coal plunge you know is it being or a coal plunge you know is it being brought into the corporate world just brought into the corporate world just brought into the corporate world just yet yet yet I you know I don't think it's happening I you know I don't think it's happening I you know I don't think it's happening quite yet I think we're you know quite yet I think we're you know quite yet I think we're you know probably at the tip of the iceberg here probably at the tip of the iceberg here probably at the tip of the iceberg here I mean I think I mean I think I mean I think there are conversations being had in the there are conversations being had in the there are conversations being had in the marketplace about things like that but marketplace about things like that but marketplace about things like that but but for now I think the availability of but for now I think the availability of but for now I think the availability of Studios like paws is probably where the Studios like paws is probably where the Studios like paws is probably where the focus is going to be you know right now focus is going to be you know right now focus is going to be you know right now um um you know like Starbucks there should be you know like Starbucks there should be you know like Starbucks there should be a Recovery Center on every block of you a Recovery Center on every block of you a Recovery Center on every block of you know in this country I'm here for it and know in this country I'm here for it and know in this country I'm here for it and I think that's where it is more so than I think that's where it is more so than I think that's where it is more so than um you know going into a a specific um you know going into a a specific um you know going into a a specific place like I would probably compare it place like I would probably compare it place like I would probably compare it more towards a gym okay you know whether more towards a gym okay you know whether more towards a gym okay you know whether it be an equinox or an orange theory or it be an equinox or an orange theory or it be an equinox or an orange theory or an f44 or whatever it is you know I see an f44 or whatever it is you know I see an f44 or whatever it is you know I see and I wouldn't and I wouldn't and I wouldn't call ourselves a gym but recovery as call ourselves a gym but recovery as call ourselves a gym but recovery as kind of kind of kind of the gym model in terms of availability I the gym model in terms of availability I the gym model in terms of availability I think that's what's I think that's where
36:00think that's what's I think that's where think that's what's I think that's where we're headed we're headed we're headed do you see it kind of going more like do you see it kind of going more like do you see it kind of going more like that route of one-off locations or does that route of one-off locations or does that route of one-off locations or does there like I'm assuming here we're after there like I'm assuming here we're after there like I'm assuming here we're after the ultimate good and that's helping the ultimate good and that's helping the ultimate good and that's helping people physically mentally emotionally people physically mentally emotionally people physically mentally emotionally spiritually you know can we have all spiritually you know can we have all spiritually you know can we have all that Under One Roof can we have the gym that Under One Roof can we have the gym that Under One Roof can we have the gym can we have this on it can we have you can we have this on it can we have you can we have this on it can we have you know is there a place for all that to know is there a place for all that to know is there a place for all that to kind of live together you know from a kind of live together you know from a kind of live together you know from a business model perspective absolutely so business model perspective absolutely so business model perspective absolutely so right there isn't right now but right there isn't right now but right there isn't right now but certainly that makes that makes a lot of certainly that makes that makes a lot of certainly that makes that makes a lot of sense you know combining it all sense you know combining it all sense you know combining it all combining it all combining it all combining it all um um you know and maybe it's not combined you know and maybe it's not combined you know and maybe it's not combined with Fitness but rather combined with with Fitness but rather combined with with Fitness but rather combined with you know acupuncture or Med or you know acupuncture or Med or you know acupuncture or Med or meditation Studio or you know there's so meditation Studio or you know there's so meditation Studio or you know there's so many different ways that we can piece many different ways that we can piece many different ways that we can piece this together this together this together um but yeah I think a combo play is is um but yeah I think a combo play is is um but yeah I think a combo play is is is also coming yeah yeah and everybody is also coming yeah yeah and everybody is also coming yeah yeah and everybody would benefit but what's I think unique would benefit but what's I think unique would benefit but what's I think unique or special right now about pause is that or special right now about pause is that or special right now about pause is that is like truly is a place to go and pause is like truly is a place to go and pause is like truly is a place to go and pause like take a break from that right so if like take a break from that right so if like take a break from that right so if you were going in and people are working you were going in and people are working you were going in and people are working out and people are also then trying to
37:00out and people are also then trying to out and people are also then trying to sit us on them okay that's different sit us on them okay that's different sit us on them okay that's different than the idea that you need to yeah than the idea that you need to yeah than the idea that you need to yeah absolutely really like recover and absolutely really like recover and absolutely really like recover and recreate right that's the whole recreate right that's the whole recreate right that's the whole intention behind it absolutely yeah yeah intention behind it absolutely yeah yeah intention behind it absolutely yeah yeah I mean the name pause basically is you I mean the name pause basically is you I mean the name pause basically is you know we understand life's challenges know we understand life's challenges know we understand life's challenges again and we're not saying that again and we're not saying that again and we're not saying that stop right right we're just saying take stop right right we're just saying take stop right right we're just saying take a moment take it take a moment it's not a moment take it take a moment it's not a moment take it take a moment it's not realistic at all take a momentary break realistic at all take a momentary break realistic at all take a momentary break right to focus on yourself right and right to focus on yourself right and right to focus on yourself right and then jump back out there then jump back out there then jump back out there feeling better and being better you know feeling better and being better you know feeling better and being better you know than before like pause that's it than before like pause that's it than before like pause that's it when I hear about when I hear about when I hear about new things or things becoming more new things or things becoming more new things or things becoming more popular whether that's a food uh popular whether that's a food uh popular whether that's a food uh Gadget a hack whatever Gadget a hack whatever Gadget a hack whatever um Another Part Of Me always thinks um Another Part Of Me always thinks um Another Part Of Me always thinks about access you know with my clinical about access you know with my clinical about access you know with my clinical background I'm always background I'm always background I'm always I always kind of thought about access to I always kind of thought about access to I always kind of thought about access to care you know there are certain people care you know there are certain people care you know there are certain people and I worked in concierge medicine so I and I worked in concierge medicine so I and I worked in concierge medicine so I mean it's a totally different story but
38:00mean it's a totally different story but mean it's a totally different story but it made me more aware of the concept of it made me more aware of the concept of it made me more aware of the concept of access to care there are people that access to care there are people that access to care there are people that you've got extra money you've got a you've got extra money you've got a you've got extra money you've got a couple extra 100 bucks a month a couple couple extra 100 bucks a month a couple couple extra 100 bucks a month a couple thousand bucks a year whatever maybe thousand bucks a year whatever maybe thousand bucks a year whatever maybe even a couple thousand dollars a month even a couple thousand dollars a month even a couple thousand dollars a month to to pour into yourself really but to to to pour into yourself really but to to to pour into yourself really but to you know pay for extra services to go to you know pay for extra services to go to you know pay for extra services to go to these places to have somebody maybe come these places to have somebody maybe come these places to have somebody maybe come to you to customize a workout customize to you to customize a workout customize to you to customize a workout customize a meal plan customize a business plan a meal plan customize a business plan a meal plan customize a business plan whatever whatever whatever um um where where can we mitigate the access where where can we mitigate the access where where can we mitigate the access here where where because the people that here where where because the people that here where where because the people that benefit the most well I think every benefit the most well I think every benefit the most well I think every human being can benefit from this but human being can benefit from this but human being can benefit from this but like how can we get this to people that like how can we get this to people that like how can we get this to people that maybe don't have the extra money or maybe don't have the extra money or maybe don't have the extra money or extra time even you know how how does extra time even you know how how does extra time even you know how how does recovery play a role in Access or access recovery play a role in Access or access recovery play a role in Access or access and Recovery I should say sure sure and Recovery I should say sure sure and Recovery I should say sure sure um well it's that's a much larger um well it's that's a much larger um well it's that's a much larger conversation but certainly you know at conversation but certainly you know at conversation but certainly you know at pause you can come into a session at pause you can come into a session at pause you can come into a session at pause for you know less than forty pause for you know less than forty pause for you know less than forty dollars you know we're not dollars you know we're not dollars you know we're not we're not by expensive you know by any we're not by expensive you know by any we're not by expensive you know by any stretch of the imagination you know that
39:00stretch of the imagination you know that stretch of the imagination you know that being said like any industry as it being said like any industry as it being said like any industry as it starts to grow starts to grow starts to grow it becomes more accessible on the high it becomes more accessible on the high it becomes more accessible on the high end on the low end you know it's coming end on the low end you know it's coming end on the low end you know it's coming it's happening now are there ways that it's happening now are there ways that it's happening now are there ways that we can brainstorm to make it even more we can brainstorm to make it even more we can brainstorm to make it even more available I.E available I.E available I.E well that even looks like Boys and Girls well that even looks like Boys and Girls well that even looks like Boys and Girls Clubs or you know you know you know Clubs or you know you know you know Clubs or you know you know you know whether it's modalities showcased within whether it's modalities showcased within whether it's modalities showcased within the four walls of a youth center for the four walls of a youth center for the four walls of a youth center for example or special Partnerships you know example or special Partnerships you know example or special Partnerships you know with these youth centers so they can with these youth centers so they can with these youth centers so they can come into a brand like pause like come into a brand like pause like come into a brand like pause like there's ways to do it there's ways to do it there's ways to do it um um but it really is going to take you know but it really is going to take you know but it really is going to take you know larger actually you know what from this larger actually you know what from this larger actually you know what from this one question I think that's going to be one question I think that's going to be one question I think that's going to be a big you know personal kind of kpi for a big you know personal kind of kpi for a big you know personal kind of kpi for me is thinking about how we can you know me is thinking about how we can you know me is thinking about how we can you know expose this to even more yeah um we expose this to even more yeah um we expose this to even more yeah um we pride ourselves on being accessible pride ourselves on being accessible pride ourselves on being accessible but maybe we need to think about being but maybe we need to think about being but maybe we need to think about being even more accessible I mean you're even more accessible I mean you're even more accessible I mean you're saying that I'm just imagining a flatbed saying that I'm just imagining a flatbed saying that I'm just imagining a flatbed or a tractor trailer of uh you know like or a tractor trailer of uh you know like or a tractor trailer of uh you know like two IR sauna boxes and just some giant
40:00two IR sauna boxes and just some giant two IR sauna boxes and just some giant Rubbermaid tubs you know for coal Rubbermaid tubs you know for coal Rubbermaid tubs you know for coal plunges and just wheeling up to a random plunges and just wheeling up to a random plunges and just wheeling up to a random location or somewhere that you know location or somewhere that you know location or somewhere that you know maybe there isn't a pause or isn't yeah maybe there isn't a pause or isn't yeah maybe there isn't a pause or isn't yeah there are these other modalities for there are these other modalities for there are these other modalities for people people people um that's that's really cool I I think um that's that's really cool I I think um that's that's really cool I I think that's you know when we look at the that's you know when we look at the that's you know when we look at the people that probably need certain types people that probably need certain types people that probably need certain types of help and Recovery techniques and of help and Recovery techniques and of help and Recovery techniques and nutrition and just help in general nutrition and just help in general nutrition and just help in general um we got to go to them right we got to um we got to go to them right we got to um we got to go to them right we got to go to them or else we're going to miss go to them or else we're going to miss go to them or else we're going to miss the Mark the Mark the Mark um on the bigger picture yep yep but um on the bigger picture yep yep but um on the bigger picture yep yep but then something like get outside hop in then something like get outside hop in then something like get outside hop in the ocean or if you live in the east the ocean or if you live in the east the ocean or if you live in the east coast just turn on your cold shower and coast just turn on your cold shower and coast just turn on your cold shower and really like you can get access to some really like you can get access to some really like you can get access to some of the stuff too but then if you were of the stuff too but then if you were of the stuff too but then if you were trying to get into a flow because it's a trying to get into a flow because it's a trying to get into a flow because it's a completely otherworldly experience or completely otherworldly experience or completely otherworldly experience or get the benefit of Asana or red light or get the benefit of Asana or red light or get the benefit of Asana or red light or cry or whatever is going on pause and cry or whatever is going on pause and cry or whatever is going on pause and Jeff are like they're trying to bring it Jeff are like they're trying to bring it Jeff are like they're trying to bring it to the masses and made it accessible and to the masses and made it accessible and to the masses and made it accessible and hopefully expanding Across the Nation hopefully expanding Across the Nation hopefully expanding Across the Nation where you actually get to hit some of where you actually get to hit some of where you actually get to hit some of these demographics that aren't don't these demographics that aren't don't these demographics that aren't don't have access and then if you make have access and then if you make have access and then if you make thousands of dollars and you can have a thousands of dollars and you can have a thousands of dollars and you can have a float tank in your basement like high float tank in your basement like high float tank in your basement like high five man all the power to you but um or
41:00five man all the power to you but um or five man all the power to you but um or pull the stranger things and make one in pull the stranger things and make one in pull the stranger things and make one in the back of the piece of Studio the back of the piece of Studio the back of the piece of Studio yeah we all want to be 11 right what so yeah we all want to be 11 right what so yeah we all want to be 11 right what so what's what's next what's what's next what's what's next um I feel like with these recovery Tech um I feel like with these recovery Tech um I feel like with these recovery Tech techniques we've been talking about at techniques we've been talking about at techniques we've been talking about at least in what I've experienced those are least in what I've experienced those are least in what I've experienced those are all that are readily available all that are readily available all that are readily available red light therapy cold plunge IR sauna red light therapy cold plunge IR sauna red light therapy cold plunge IR sauna um we haven't really talked about you um we haven't really talked about you um we haven't really talked about you know things maybe like IV drip you know know things maybe like IV drip you know know things maybe like IV drip you know just being in a place that is meant to just being in a place that is meant to just being in a place that is meant to take a pause and then treat your body in take a pause and then treat your body in take a pause and then treat your body in a different modality a different modality a different modality um what's on the horizon what are some um what's on the horizon what are some um what's on the horizon what are some recovery techniques and tactics and recovery techniques and tactics and recovery techniques and tactics and hacks maybe that hacks maybe that hacks maybe that um we can talk about now or you know um we can talk about now or you know um we can talk about now or you know what what are you personally seeing what what what are you personally seeing what what what are you personally seeing what is the science show is the science show is the science show yeah I mean we're always I'm always yeah I mean we're always I'm always yeah I mean we're always I'm always looking for new stuff looking for new stuff looking for new stuff um one I'm particularly excited about um one I'm particularly excited about um one I'm particularly excited about that's been around for a while is pmf that's been around for a while is pmf that's been around for a while is pmf also electromagnetic frequency what's also electromagnetic frequency what's also electromagnetic frequency what's that that um it's basically you could probably um it's basically you could probably um it's basically you could probably explain it better than I yeah I don't explain it better than I yeah I don't explain it better than I yeah I don't know it's you need like a Quantum know it's you need like a Quantum know it's you need like a Quantum Physics degree yeah Physics degree yeah Physics degree yeah it basically it it you lay on a bed and
42:00it basically it it you lay on a bed and it basically it it you lay on a bed and there's these different pads that there's these different pads that there's these different pads that basically are able to pulse basically are able to pulse basically are able to pulse electromagnic frequency through your electromagnic frequency through your electromagnic frequency through your body and it's able to literally identify body and it's able to literally identify body and it's able to literally identify areas of your body that need attention areas of your body that need attention areas of your body that need attention and like your body starts to Twitch as and like your body starts to Twitch as and like your body starts to Twitch as it's starting to kind of address some of it's starting to kind of address some of it's starting to kind of address some of the issues that are happening with it I the issues that are happening with it I the issues that are happening with it I love it so it's kind of like a total love it so it's kind of like a total love it so it's kind of like a total body TENS unit kind of thing depends I body TENS unit kind of thing depends I body TENS unit kind of thing depends I don't know yeah like a it's like Electro don't know yeah like a it's like Electro don't know yeah like a it's like Electro stimulation a little pad a lot of people stimulation a little pad a lot of people stimulation a little pad a lot of people put them on like low back pain exactly put them on like low back pain exactly put them on like low back pain exactly because that's more like trying to because that's more like trying to because that's more like trying to distract the nervous system whereas this distract the nervous system whereas this distract the nervous system whereas this is trying to is trying to is trying to um like speak to the cells essentially um like speak to the cells essentially um like speak to the cells essentially so it's more at a cellular level versus so it's more at a cellular level versus so it's more at a cellular level versus like a distraction technique interesting like a distraction technique interesting like a distraction technique interesting yeah I haven't heard of that one yeah yeah I haven't heard of that one yeah yeah I haven't heard of that one yeah yeah it's not as readily available but yeah it's not as readily available but yeah it's not as readily available but it's a stream we're looking got it you it's a stream we're looking got it you it's a stream we're looking got it you know we got to vet everything you know know we got to vet everything you know know we got to vet everything you know um you know hyperbaric oxygen Chambers um you know hyperbaric oxygen Chambers um you know hyperbaric oxygen Chambers or you know it's possible and then does or you know it's possible and then does or you know it's possible and then does that does that fit within the pause that does that fit within the pause that does that fit within the pause model too and like maybe it does too but model too and like maybe it does too but model too and like maybe it does too but it's like you could probably you can it's like you could probably you can it's like you could probably you can jump on every new trend as well but it's jump on every new trend as well but it's jump on every new trend as well but it's like also maybe you just hear the tried like also maybe you just hear the tried like also maybe you just hear the tried and true things that people really truly
43:00and true things that people really truly and true things that people really truly need and this is it's not gimmicky it's need and this is it's not gimmicky it's need and this is it's not gimmicky it's like it's going to work and that's why like it's going to work and that's why like it's going to work and that's why we're currently using it right yeah I we're currently using it right yeah I we're currently using it right yeah I mean what part of the criteria for us in mean what part of the criteria for us in mean what part of the criteria for us in terms of you know selecting Services terms of you know selecting Services terms of you know selecting Services yeah I was going to ask what is kind of yeah I was going to ask what is kind of yeah I was going to ask what is kind of the vetting process they've got to be the vetting process they've got to be the vetting process they've got to be science-backed they've got to be proven science-backed they've got to be proven science-backed they've got to be proven out by a different a multitude different out by a different a multitude different out by a different a multitude different people that we reach out to they have to people that we reach out to they have to people that we reach out to they have to stack stack stack right our our modalities have to live right our our modalities have to live right our our modalities have to live together like together like together like theoretically anybody could come to a theoretically anybody could come to a theoretically anybody could come to a pause and try all you know pair all of pause and try all you know pair all of pause and try all you know pair all of our services and they would simply our services and they would simply our services and they would simply amplify the benefit of why you would amplify the benefit of why you would amplify the benefit of why you would come to pause and so that's very come to pause and so that's very come to pause and so that's very critical benefit in one but also there's critical benefit in one but also there's critical benefit in one but also there's like a compound effect to them all like a compound effect to them all like a compound effect to them all totally right okay totally totally right okay totally totally right okay totally what are you personally doing I have to what are you personally doing I have to what are you personally doing I have to imagine someone who's uh living it imagine someone who's uh living it imagine someone who's uh living it eating it breathing it working it eating it breathing it working it eating it breathing it working it um using the things we talked about but um using the things we talked about but um using the things we talked about but you know is there something else that's you know is there something else that's you know is there something else that's unique to your mind body practice that unique to your mind body practice that unique to your mind body practice that uh you can't quite get in a studio uh you can't quite get in a studio uh you can't quite get in a studio anywhere yet what are you finding value anywhere yet what are you finding value anywhere yet what are you finding value in for your Wellness I mean in for your Wellness I mean in for your Wellness I mean don't roll your eyes but you know don't roll your eyes but you know don't roll your eyes but you know laughter you know like I've got I've got
44:00laughter you know like I've got I've got laughter you know like I've got I've got two I've got two eight-year-old twins at two I've got two eight-year-old twins at two I've got two eight-year-old twins at home joy and like coaching their home joy and like coaching their home joy and like coaching their basketball team basketball team basketball team even though we literally lost last even though we literally lost last even though we literally lost last weekend 60 to zero and I'm not even weekend 60 to zero and I'm not even weekend 60 to zero and I'm not even making that up we've literally lost 60 making that up we've literally lost 60 making that up we've literally lost 60 to zero um I don't know I don't know if to zero um I don't know I don't know if to zero um I don't know I don't know if we'll get it next time but hopefully we we'll get it next time but hopefully we we'll get it next time but hopefully we can score a bucket next time but like can score a bucket next time but like can score a bucket next time but like you know you know you know being or being present like and that you being or being present like and that you being or being present like and that you know that also goes with pause is that I know that also goes with pause is that I know that also goes with pause is that I I needed to become present you know I needed to become present you know I needed to become present you know every second of my life and I wasn't every second of my life and I wasn't every second of my life and I wasn't prior I was always thinking about what prior I was always thinking about what prior I was always thinking about what was next I was always thinking about was next I was always thinking about was next I was always thinking about what my next move was going to be on the what my next move was going to be on the what my next move was going to be on the corporate ladder what a carryover effect corporate ladder what a carryover effect corporate ladder what a carryover effect um so part of pause was like be in the um so part of pause was like be in the um so part of pause was like be in the moment so now for me being with my moment so now for me being with my moment so now for me being with my family with my kids laughing getting our family with my kids laughing getting our family with my kids laughing getting our asses kicked on a basketball court you asses kicked on a basketball court you asses kicked on a basketball court you know a saga starts this weekend can't know a saga starts this weekend can't know a saga starts this weekend can't wait for that you know that stuff to me wait for that you know that stuff to me wait for that you know that stuff to me is that's you know it's is that's you know it's is that's you know it's it uh it's beyond words yeah you know it uh it's beyond words yeah you know it uh it's beyond words yeah you know beyond words it's like how does this beyond words it's like how does this beyond words it's like how does this make sense yeah like it doesn't seem make sense yeah like it doesn't seem make sense yeah like it doesn't seem like anything right right I'm just I'm
45:00like anything right right I'm just I'm like anything right right I'm just I'm literally doing nothing I'm just literally doing nothing I'm just literally doing nothing I'm just chilling hanging with family right chilling hanging with family right chilling hanging with family right having a good time sharing a laugh right having a good time sharing a laugh right having a good time sharing a laugh right like the ripple effect is like the ripple effect is like the ripple effect is it's like wow I didn't know this was it's like wow I didn't know this was it's like wow I didn't know this was possible yeah you know the feeling the possible yeah you know the feeling the possible yeah you know the feeling the aftermath like the endorphin rush of aftermath like the endorphin rush of aftermath like the endorphin rush of that of being with them doing something that of being with them doing something that of being with them doing something extraordinary it feels somewhat similar extraordinary it feels somewhat similar extraordinary it feels somewhat similar when I'm you know getting out of a when I'm you know getting out of a when I'm you know getting out of a floating or getting out of cryo and that floating or getting out of cryo and that floating or getting out of cryo and that same sort of you know endorphin dopamine same sort of you know endorphin dopamine same sort of you know endorphin dopamine Rush yeah you know so yeah Rush yeah you know so yeah Rush yeah you know so yeah I think it's a beautiful answer and my I think it's a beautiful answer and my I think it's a beautiful answer and my mind went somewhere completely different mind went somewhere completely different mind went somewhere completely different than how I wish it went there for yeah than how I wish it went there for yeah than how I wish it went there for yeah we got more variety absolutely because I we got more variety absolutely because I we got more variety absolutely because I was initially like oh like Blood Flow was initially like oh like Blood Flow was initially like oh like Blood Flow Restriction bands I think are great yeah Restriction bands I think are great yeah Restriction bands I think are great yeah during Kobe when gyms were closed it was during Kobe when gyms were closed it was during Kobe when gyms were closed it was something that I got into and then like something that I got into and then like something that I got into and then like the last number of months I've been very the last number of months I've been very the last number of months I've been very busy but it's a way to like kind of busy but it's a way to like kind of busy but it's a way to like kind of still get a workout in without having to still get a workout in without having to still get a workout in without having to truly but anyways that's but now now I truly but anyways that's but now now I truly but anyways that's but now now I wanna now I want to piggyback off of wanna now I want to piggyback off of wanna now I want to piggyback off of that I just had my first child that I just had my first child that I just had my first child um oh congratulations yeah so so just um oh congratulations yeah so so just um oh congratulations yeah so so just and he's like there's been a little bit and he's like there's been a little bit and he's like there's been a little bit of a journey in the hospital but just of a journey in the hospital but just of a journey in the hospital but just spending time with him has been really spending time with him has been really spending time with him has been really rewarding so I wish I went there first
46:00rewarding so I wish I went there first rewarding so I wish I went there first but maybe that's just I'll learn I'll but maybe that's just I'll learn I'll but maybe that's just I'll learn I'll learn again learn again learn again [Laughter] [Laughter] [Laughter] um what I just heard you both kind of um what I just heard you both kind of um what I just heard you both kind of share it you know thank you for sharing share it you know thank you for sharing share it you know thank you for sharing that um is that um is that um is um really cool to hear because it's a um really cool to hear because it's a um really cool to hear because it's a good reminder of like how something as good reminder of like how something as good reminder of like how something as simple as just taking a pause and simple as just taking a pause and simple as just taking a pause and spending quality time with ourselves and spending quality time with ourselves and spending quality time with ourselves and with our loved ones makes us feel like with our loved ones makes us feel like with our loved ones makes us feel like there's there's immense power to that there's there's immense power to that there's there's immense power to that um a quick little backstory actually I'm um a quick little backstory actually I'm um a quick little backstory actually I'm a big data guy you know I got my whoop I a big data guy you know I got my whoop I a big data guy you know I got my whoop I got my Apple watch smart bad I track a got my Apple watch smart bad I track a got my Apple watch smart bad I track a lot of things but you know I've also lot of things but you know I've also lot of things but you know I've also learned to really lean into the learned to really lean into the learned to really lean into the qualitative aspect of how my feeling qualitative aspect of how my feeling qualitative aspect of how my feeling what is my body telling me what am I what is my body telling me what am I what is my body telling me what am I ignoring ignoring ignoring and about this time last year and about this time last year and about this time last year um earlier last year I was kind of going um earlier last year I was kind of going um earlier last year I was kind of going through a real bad bout of burnout like through a real bad bout of burnout like through a real bad bout of burnout like nothing made sense you know I'm doing nothing made sense you know I'm doing nothing made sense you know I'm doing all these things all these things all these things irsana coal plunge sleep all this other irsana coal plunge sleep all this other irsana coal plunge sleep all this other all these other things are supposed to all these other things are supposed to all these other things are supposed to be helping me but nothing was really be helping me but nothing was really be helping me but nothing was really connecting connecting connecting um and I was missing quality time I was um and I was missing quality time I was um and I was missing quality time I was missing just down time literally just
47:00missing just down time literally just missing just down time literally just making time to do nothing or to just making time to do nothing or to just making time to do nothing or to just step away from the big machine and I step away from the big machine and I step away from the big machine and I would even track it and now I can would even track it and now I can would even track it and now I can basically like guarantee now when I go basically like guarantee now when I go basically like guarantee now when I go into a weekend event or even just a into a weekend event or even just a into a weekend event or even just a couple hours with friends and my wife or couple hours with friends and my wife or couple hours with friends and my wife or doing nothing on the beach it's like I doing nothing on the beach it's like I doing nothing on the beach it's like I I'll it's kind of like it makes no sense I'll it's kind of like it makes no sense I'll it's kind of like it makes no sense I'll track nothing I'll track nothing I'll track nothing I'll track nothing I'll track nothing I'll track nothing but it always yields a positive result but it always yields a positive result but it always yields a positive result in terms of my Total Recovery score my in terms of my Total Recovery score my in terms of my Total Recovery score my HRV and also just how I feel so it's HRV and also just how I feel so it's HRV and also just how I feel so it's like we don't think these things we like we don't think these things we like we don't think these things we don't think doing nothing does something don't think doing nothing does something don't think doing nothing does something right but it does yeah right but it does right but it does yeah right but it does right but it does yeah right but it does absolutely absolutely what would you want the person listening what would you want the person listening what would you want the person listening right now to walk away from and like right now to walk away from and like right now to walk away from and like really grab hold of the most so if like really grab hold of the most so if like really grab hold of the most so if like all right one of these things a concept all right one of these things a concept all right one of these things a concept uh you know a practice like what would uh you know a practice like what would uh you know a practice like what would you hope they you know pursue next um do you want to go first I was like it's do you want to go first I was like it's do you want to go first I was like it's bringing it back full circle to where we
48:00bringing it back full circle to where we bringing it back full circle to where we started but like recovery is key started but like recovery is key started but like recovery is key um even if you're working out a lot like um even if you're working out a lot like um even if you're working out a lot like you're saying when you do nothing all of you're saying when you do nothing all of you're saying when you do nothing all of a sudden you find your HRV goes up like a sudden you find your HRV goes up like a sudden you find your HRV goes up like when you work out you're not getting any when you work out you're not getting any when you work out you're not getting any benefits from the workout or like but benefits from the workout or like but benefits from the workout or like but it's eliciting the benefits you get one it's eliciting the benefits you get one it's eliciting the benefits you get one you're recovering afterwards nothing is you're recovering afterwards nothing is you're recovering afterwards nothing is something absolutely nothing is recovery something absolutely nothing is recovery something absolutely nothing is recovery yeah so really just like you can take yeah so really just like you can take yeah so really just like you can take one thing away it's whatever ends up one thing away it's whatever ends up one thing away it's whatever ends up being whether you come into a pause and being whether you come into a pause and being whether you come into a pause and you sit in a flow or whether you just go you sit in a flow or whether you just go you sit in a flow or whether you just go outside and sit under a tree and listen outside and sit under a tree and listen outside and sit under a tree and listen to the wind blow like it's you need to to the wind blow like it's you need to to the wind blow like it's you need to spend time zooming in and helping your spend time zooming in and helping your spend time zooming in and helping your body just deal with the whatever body just deal with the whatever body just deal with the whatever stresses of life and you're going to be stresses of life and you're going to be stresses of life and you're going to be better for it better for it better for it yeah I would say you know similar you yeah I would say you know similar you yeah I would say you know similar you know I would say that when there's when know I would say that when there's when know I would say that when there's when you're not feeling right when there's you're not feeling right when there's you're not feeling right when there's burnout when you're just not when you're burnout when you're just not when you're burnout when you're just not when you're just not feeling just not feeling just not feeling um the way that you'd like to feel um the way that you'd like to feel um the way that you'd like to feel you know there are tools out there just you know there are tools out there just you know there are tools out there just you got to be real with yourself you got you got to be real with yourself you got you got to be real with yourself you got to really kind of dig down deep and to really kind of dig down deep and to really kind of dig down deep and really it's important you got to address really it's important you got to address really it's important you got to address these things you got to figure it out these things you got to figure it out these things you got to figure it out whether it means speaking to somebody
49:00whether it means speaking to somebody whether it means speaking to somebody whether it means coming into pause whether it means coming into pause whether it means coming into pause whether it means spending more time in whether it means spending more time in whether it means spending more time in nature like nature like nature like you're just admitting that you deserve you're just admitting that you deserve you're just admitting that you deserve to feel better you deserve to live to feel better you deserve to live to feel better you deserve to live better right like you get one chance to better right like you get one chance to better right like you get one chance to you know to ride this crazy you know you know to ride this crazy you know you know to ride this crazy you know ride called life right so we owe it to ride called life right so we owe it to ride called life right so we owe it to it's incumbent upon ourselves it's incumbent upon ourselves it's incumbent upon ourselves if we're not feeling right if we're not feeling right if we're not feeling right spend the time to figure it out it might spend the time to figure it out it might spend the time to figure it out it might be difficult but figure it out and then be difficult but figure it out and then be difficult but figure it out and then there's a place like pause that can help there's a place like pause that can help there's a place like pause that can help yeah you know but I'm just being much yeah you know but I'm just being much yeah you know but I'm just being much bigger here you know like just live bigger here you know like just live bigger here you know like just live better better better I really do agree with that I really do agree with that I really do agree with that um we deserve to feel better and I think um we deserve to feel better and I think um we deserve to feel better and I think I definitely have struggled with that in I definitely have struggled with that in I definitely have struggled with that in the past of the past of the past of I can't like I I shouldn't I don't I can't like I I shouldn't I don't I can't like I I shouldn't I don't deserve to take the time off to do this deserve to take the time off to do this deserve to take the time off to do this stuff when I have so much other work to stuff when I have so much other work to stuff when I have so much other work to do do do um or I um or I um or I I I'm gonna feel bad about choosing to I I'm gonna feel bad about choosing to I I'm gonna feel bad about choosing to do nothing or go to the do nothing or go to the do nothing or go to the the spa The Recovery Center you know and
50:00the spa The Recovery Center you know and the spa The Recovery Center you know and it looks like you know you're just like it looks like you know you're just like it looks like you know you're just like living this lavish life of just doing living this lavish life of just doing living this lavish life of just doing nothing but it's like it's intentional nothing but it's like it's intentional nothing but it's like it's intentional it's like I'm doing these things so that it's like I'm doing these things so that it's like I'm doing these things so that I can show up better for all the other I can show up better for all the other I can show up better for all the other things that are you know super important things that are you know super important things that are you know super important in my life that I have to get done that in my life that I have to get done that in my life that I have to get done that I want to get done to show my best I want to get done to show my best I want to get done to show my best version for myself and my family my version for myself and my family my version for myself and my family my community community community um so many things that I do to like lead um so many things that I do to like lead um so many things that I do to like lead up to try to be the best podcaster and up to try to be the best podcaster and up to try to be the best podcaster and host and content creator that I can be host and content creator that I can be host and content creator that I can be it all takes these little things to feed it all takes these little things to feed it all takes these little things to feed into that that big picture and it's I into that that big picture and it's I into that that big picture and it's I think first and foremost it's the think first and foremost it's the think first and foremost it's the mindset and it's also the acceptance of mindset and it's also the acceptance of mindset and it's also the acceptance of like no I deserve I deserve to do like no I deserve I deserve to do like no I deserve I deserve to do nothing I deserve to recover I deserve nothing I deserve to recover I deserve nothing I deserve to recover I deserve to feel or put myself on the path to to feel or put myself on the path to to feel or put myself on the path to feeling my absolute best I don't even I feeling my absolute best I don't even I feeling my absolute best I don't even I feel pretty damn good and it's come a feel pretty damn good and it's come a feel pretty damn good and it's come a long way but you know I I think I can long way but you know I I think I can long way but you know I I think I can feel better yep um but if I don't first feel better yep um but if I don't first feel better yep um but if I don't first choose myself choose myself choose myself how will I ever know yep choice is hard how will I ever know yep choice is hard how will I ever know yep choice is hard for people absolutely choice is hard for people absolutely choice is hard for people absolutely choice is hard saying that out loud like I deserve to saying that out loud like I deserve to saying that out loud like I deserve to feel my best that's that's pretty wild feel my best that's that's pretty wild feel my best that's that's pretty wild yep yeah I wonder if anybody's in the
51:00yep yeah I wonder if anybody's in the yep yeah I wonder if anybody's in the car doing that right now car doing that right now car doing that right now um well this has been great thank you um well this has been great thank you um well this has been great thank you guys so much for coming in and sharing guys so much for coming in and sharing guys so much for coming in and sharing um your personal experiences with um your personal experiences with um your personal experiences with recovery techniques and what pause has recovery techniques and what pause has recovery techniques and what pause has to offer and just these different to offer and just these different to offer and just these different modalities in general like I said modalities in general like I said modalities in general like I said earlier it's been great for me to kind earlier it's been great for me to kind earlier it's been great for me to kind of explore this stuff in my personal of explore this stuff in my personal of explore this stuff in my personal wellness and then get to crack open in wellness and then get to crack open in wellness and then get to crack open in Long format with you know the experts uh Long format with you know the experts uh Long format with you know the experts uh and people that are offering it for and people that are offering it for and people that are offering it for other people so for that I say thank you other people so for that I say thank you other people so for that I say thank you yeah thank you this has been great yeah thank you this has been great yeah thank you this has been great um where y'all going next with pause you um where y'all going next with pause you um where y'all going next with pause you know I know we talked about you're know I know we talked about you're know I know we talked about you're getting new with franchising you know getting new with franchising you know getting new with franchising you know kind of opening up more locations I see kind of opening up more locations I see kind of opening up more locations I see them opening up a lot more at least here them opening up a lot more at least here them opening up a lot more at least here in LA but uh what's like the next future in LA but uh what's like the next future in LA but uh what's like the next future step for for policy here yeah so we're step for for policy here yeah so we're step for for policy here yeah so we're opening a couple of more locations here opening a couple of more locations here opening a couple of more locations here in Los Angeles we're going to be opening in Los Angeles we're going to be opening in Los Angeles we're going to be opening in brotman in Studio City shortly but in brotman in Studio City shortly but in brotman in Studio City shortly but you know franchise you know the way the you know franchise you know the way the you know franchise you know the way the way this it's a way to get this out way this it's a way to get this out way this it's a way to get this out there yeah is a via franchise so we are there yeah is a via franchise so we are there yeah is a via franchise so we are launched we've launched franchise right launched we've launched franchise right launched we've launched franchise right now so we're going to be selling now so we're going to be selling now so we're going to be selling pause you know units Nationwide
52:00pause you know units Nationwide pause you know units Nationwide um I think the soonest um I think the soonest um I think the soonest we can get something open it's probably we can get something open it's probably we can get something open it's probably going to be about a year from now but going to be about a year from now but going to be about a year from now but we're talking to people in Florida in we're talking to people in Florida in we're talking to people in Florida in Arizona and New Jersey and Chicago and Arizona and New Jersey and Chicago and Arizona and New Jersey and Chicago and Colorado and Texas and all my homes all Colorado and Texas and all my homes all Colorado and Texas and all my homes all of that right now all that right now so of that right now all that right now so of that right now all that right now so yeah we're um we're coming like we're yeah we're um we're coming like we're yeah we're um we're coming like we're gonna we're gonna be everywhere you know gonna we're gonna be everywhere you know gonna we're gonna be everywhere you know in other brands like pause which it's in other brands like pause which it's in other brands like pause which it's all you know all you know all you know it benefits all yeah you know what's it benefits all yeah you know what's it benefits all yeah you know what's that expression the higher tide rising that expression the higher tide rising that expression the higher tide rising tide yeah there it is there it is you tide yeah there it is there it is you tide yeah there it is there it is you know and uh you know we had pause we know and uh you know we had pause we know and uh you know we had pause we definitely believe that definitely believe that definitely believe that very cool uh well I gotta ask you my very cool uh well I gotta ask you my very cool uh well I gotta ask you my final question now final question now final question now um so let me start let me start with you um so let me start let me start with you um so let me start let me start with you first sure ever forward first sure ever forward first sure ever forward um the theme of the show I was kind of um the theme of the show I was kind of um the theme of the show I was kind of highlighting it earlier but what does it highlighting it earlier but what does it highlighting it earlier but what does it mean to you how do you live a life mean to you how do you live a life mean to you how do you live a life hoverboard hoverboard hoverboard I think ever Ford is to me I think ever Ford is to me I think ever Ford is to me it means it means it means like always always striving to be better like always always striving to be better like always always striving to be better always striving to live better like it's always striving to live better like it's always striving to live better like it's you know deserving to live about you know deserving to live about you know deserving to live about deserving to live better it's like ever
53:00deserving to live better it's like ever deserving to live better it's like ever and forward are two great freaking words and forward are two great freaking words and forward are two great freaking words you know and you put those together and you know and you put those together and you know and you put those together and it makes me think of like just being it makes me think of like just being it makes me think of like just being better you know with every day yeah follow up yeah I I view it as like yeah follow up yeah I I view it as like there's no point in dwelling in the past there's no point in dwelling in the past there's no point in dwelling in the past and like we are at least as far as we and like we are at least as far as we and like we are at least as far as we know on like a time is know on like a time is know on like a time is it like to me like theory is going to be it like to me like theory is going to be it like to me like theory is going to be a tomorrow a tomorrow a tomorrow um and hopefully you have a better day um and hopefully you have a better day um and hopefully you have a better day tomorrow than you did yesterday but it's tomorrow than you did yesterday but it's tomorrow than you did yesterday but it's the idea that you're just constantly the idea that you're just constantly the idea that you're just constantly you're one foot in front of the other you're one foot in front of the other you're one foot in front of the other and you might as well try to make and you might as well try to make and you might as well try to make yourself a better version along that way yourself a better version along that way yourself a better version along that way but in spite of getting better or worse but in spite of getting better or worse but in spite of getting better or worse like you are forever just moving forward like you are forever just moving forward like you are forever just moving forward so Embrace that and then this probably so Embrace that and then this probably so Embrace that and then this probably you'll you'll hopefully point in a you'll you'll hopefully point in a you'll you'll hopefully point in a better Direction as a result better Direction as a result better Direction as a result yeah I mean what what you all do and how yeah I mean what what you all do and how yeah I mean what what you all do and how you do it quite literally the name has you do it quite literally the name has you do it quite literally the name has been a huge imprint on me and my own been a huge imprint on me and my own been a huge imprint on me and my own interpretation of my own message interpretation of my own message interpretation of my own message um you know I think when we're in um you know I think when we're in um you know I think when we're in pursuit of living a better life we're
54:00pursuit of living a better life we're pursuit of living a better life we're trying to achieve more accomplish more trying to achieve more accomplish more trying to achieve more accomplish more do more be more do more be more do more be more um it's it's um it's it's um it's it's the more aspect I think we get caught up the more aspect I think we get caught up the more aspect I think we get caught up on or at least I did but I found immense on or at least I did but I found immense on or at least I did but I found immense value and literally taking a pause and value and literally taking a pause and value and literally taking a pause and sometimes for me to move forward in life sometimes for me to move forward in life sometimes for me to move forward in life means taking pause right now to do means taking pause right now to do means taking pause right now to do nothing right now but it's really we're nothing right now but it's really we're nothing right now but it's really we're never really doing nothing right we never really doing nothing right we never really doing nothing right we might physically be chilling might be might physically be chilling might be might physically be chilling might be doing nothing but the brain The Head and doing nothing but the brain The Head and doing nothing but the brain The Head and the Heart are always kind of running and the Heart are always kind of running and the Heart are always kind of running and so there's an opportunity to to move so there's an opportunity to to move so there's an opportunity to to move forward with those areas forward with those areas forward with those areas um forward doesn't have to quite um forward doesn't have to quite um forward doesn't have to quite literally be moving forward you know we literally be moving forward you know we literally be moving forward you know we can achieve that you know by being still can achieve that you know by being still can achieve that you know by being still by being present and quite literally by being present and quite literally by being present and quite literally taking a pause so for me lately to move taking a pause so for me lately to move taking a pause so for me lately to move ever forward in my life has meant to ever forward in my life has meant to ever forward in my life has meant to take pauses more often nice yeah take pauses more often nice yeah take pauses more often nice yeah uh well thank you guys so much uh well thank you guys so much uh well thank you guys so much um I've experienced pause myself and I um I've experienced pause myself and I um I've experienced pause myself and I love it it's beautiful it's incredible love it it's beautiful it's incredible love it it's beautiful it's incredible it has immense value to my Wellness it has immense value to my Wellness it has immense value to my Wellness routine so um you know personal
55:00routine so um you know personal routine so um you know personal experience I can say you know I love it experience I can say you know I love it experience I can say you know I love it I love it great day great to hear yeah I love it great day great to hear yeah I love it great day great to hear yeah thank you so much we're gonna have all thank you so much we're gonna have all thank you so much we're gonna have all of you guys information down in the show of you guys information down in the show of you guys information down in the show notes and video notes for everybody but notes and video notes for everybody but notes and video notes for everybody but if they want to go somewhere right now if they want to go somewhere right now if they want to go somewhere right now to connect with you or learn more about to connect with you or learn more about to connect with you or learn more about these modalities or pause in general these modalities or pause in general these modalities or pause in general where's the best place to go uh pause where's the best place to go uh pause where's the best place to go uh pause studio.com go to our website um there's studio.com go to our website um there's studio.com go to our website um there's a form there I I see every form that a form there I I see every form that a form there I I see every form that comes through so if you have questions comes through so if you have questions comes through so if you have questions plug them in plug them in let me know plug them in plug them in let me know plug them in plug them in let me know all right cool all right cool all right cool [Music] foreign