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Episode 247 Finding Strength in Discomfort The Story Behind Kiin Sauna

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01:00Don't forget to tell them you're a friend of Davees over at the Nosteuse friend of Davees over at the Nosteuse friend of Davees over at the Nosteuse podcast. Whitaker Doris, you won't podcast. Whitaker Doris, you won't podcast. Whitaker Doris, you won't regret it. Now, back to the epi. [music] [music] Adversity, bring it. The struggle, I Adversity, bring it. The struggle, I Adversity, bring it. The struggle, I welcome it. Snooze on life, never. welcome it. Snooze on life, never. welcome it. Snooze on life, never. I am Dave Regina and this is the No I am Dave Regina and this is the No I am Dave Regina and this is the No Podcast. Come on. >> [music] >> Welcome back. No news podcast episode >> Welcome back. No news podcast episode 247. 247. 247. As always, I'm in the booth. We have a As always, I'm in the booth. We have a As always, I'm in the booth. We have a wonderful three today. We have Clauddio wonderful three today. We have Clauddio wonderful three today. We have Clauddio the voice Valenzuela, the voice Valenzuela, the voice Valenzuela, Ginger the sauna queen Richardson Ginger the sauna queen Richardson Ginger the sauna queen Richardson [laughter] [laughter] [laughter] and I am Dave the body Regina.
02:00and I am Dave the body Regina. and I am Dave the body Regina. Ginger Richardson is the founder of Kin Ginger Richardson is the founder of Kin Ginger Richardson is the founder of Kin Sauna a mobile wood burning sauna and Sauna a mobile wood burning sauna and Sauna a mobile wood burning sauna and cold plunge experience based in cold plunge experience based in cold plunge experience based in Fairfield, Connecticut. Born in Canada Fairfield, Connecticut. Born in Canada Fairfield, Connecticut. Born in Canada and shaped by her time living across the and shaped by her time living across the and shaped by her time living across the US and Asia, Ginger brings a global US and Asia, Ginger brings a global US and Asia, Ginger brings a global perspective to wellness, blending perspective to wellness, blending perspective to wellness, blending cultural insight with ancient sauna cultural insight with ancient sauna cultural insight with ancient sauna traditions. A divorced single mom, she traditions. A divorced single mom, she traditions. A divorced single mom, she turned her own story of hardship and turned her own story of hardship and turned her own story of hardship and reinvention into a mission to help reinvention into a mission to help reinvention into a mission to help others find strength through discomfort. others find strength through discomfort. others find strength through discomfort. Through her guided hot and cold contrast Through her guided hot and cold contrast Through her guided hot and cold contrast sessions, Ginger leads people to sessions, Ginger leads people to sessions, Ginger leads people to clarity, courage, and community. With clarity, courage, and community. With clarity, courage, and community. With roots in health coaching and interior roots in health coaching and interior roots in health coaching and interior design, she built kin to reflect design, she built kin to reflect design, she built kin to reflect simplicity and purpose. A space where simplicity and purpose. A space where simplicity and purpose. A space where people reconnect with themselves and people reconnect with themselves and people reconnect with themselves and each other through ancient rituals made each other through ancient rituals made each other through ancient rituals made modern. modern. modern. >> That sounds really good. Ginger, >> That sounds really good. Ginger, >> That sounds really good. Ginger, [laughter] [laughter] welcome to the podcast. welcome to the podcast. welcome to the podcast. >> Thank you so much. I'm so happy to be >> Thank you so much. I'm so happy to be >> Thank you so much. I'm so happy to be here. Thrilled to be here, actually.
03:00here. Thrilled to be here, actually. here. Thrilled to be here, actually. Listen, I think I'm still out of breath Listen, I think I'm still out of breath Listen, I think I'm still out of breath from the staircase coming up here and from the staircase coming up here and from the staircase coming up here and now the coffee got me going, but it is a now the coffee got me going, but it is a now the coffee got me going, but it is a pleasure to have you here. Thank you pleasure to have you here. Thank you pleasure to have you here. Thank you again. Just to recap everything, how did again. Just to recap everything, how did again. Just to recap everything, how did we originally connect? Who was the we originally connect? Who was the we originally connect? Who was the connect? Was it Melissa? connect? Was it Melissa? connect? Was it Melissa? >> Uh, no. It was actually Jean. Jean the >> Uh, no. It was actually Jean. Jean the >> Uh, no. It was actually Jean. Jean the woke widow. woke widow. woke widow. >> Gutierrez. That's right. >> Gutierrez. That's right. >> Gutierrez. That's right. >> I had a coffee with her and she was >> I had a coffee with her and she was >> I had a coffee with her and she was telling me that she went to your summit telling me that she went to your summit telling me that she went to your summit >> and did her sound bath, I believe, a >> and did her sound bath, I believe, a >> and did her sound bath, I believe, a couple of years ago. Right. couple of years ago. Right. couple of years ago. Right. >> And she was like, "You have to connect >> And she was like, "You have to connect >> And she was like, "You have to connect with them because I think there would be with them because I think there would be with them because I think there would be synergy there with your summits and synergy there with your summits and synergy there with your summits and other things that you're doing in the other things that you're doing in the other things that you're doing in the community." And as soon as I realized community." And as soon as I realized community." And as soon as I realized who who you guys were and I got who who you guys were and I got who who you guys were and I got connected with Sean, we had a great connected with Sean, we had a great connected with Sean, we had a great conversation. I was like, "Oh my gosh, conversation. I was like, "Oh my gosh, conversation. I was like, "Oh my gosh, these guys are I think we talked on the these guys are I think we talked on the these guys are I think we talked on the phone. Sean and I spoke for like half an phone. Sean and I spoke for like half an phone. Sean and I spoke for like half an hour. Our first conversation about all hour. Our first conversation about all hour. Our first conversation about all of these things that we're all so of these things that we're all so of these things that we're all so passionate about. There's so much passionate about. There's so much passionate about. There's so much overlap with, you know, what you're overlap with, you know, what you're overlap with, you know, what you're doing and my community building and it doing and my community building and it doing and my community building and it just felt like good synergy." And then I just felt like good synergy." And then I just felt like good synergy." And then I got to come to your summit which was got to come to your summit which was got to come to your summit which was well actually that's not true. I first well actually that's not true. I first well actually that's not true. I first did your sale house day and then the did your sale house day and then the did your sale house day and then the summit which I mean amazing like I can't
04:00summit which I mean amazing like I can't summit which I mean amazing like I can't even that day was even that day was even that day was >> first of all I've never had so many men >> first of all I've never had so many men >> first of all I've never had so many men in my sauna [laughter] at one time. in my sauna [laughter] at one time. in my sauna [laughter] at one time. >> And the amount of sweat that I had to >> And the amount of sweat that I had to >> And the amount of sweat that I had to clean up at the end I was like whoa this clean up at the end I was like whoa this clean up at the end I was like whoa this is like a whole whole other level. is like a whole whole other level. is like a whole whole other level. >> Um there's technical reasons why men >> Um there's technical reasons why men >> Um there's technical reasons why men sweat more. I don't know if you know sweat more. I don't know if you know sweat more. I don't know if you know that but it's been a fascinating journey that but it's been a fascinating journey that but it's been a fascinating journey like having men and women in there and like having men and women in there and like having men and women in there and seeing how different it is. But yes seeing how different it is. But yes seeing how different it is. But yes that's how we got connected. Yes. Yeah. that's how we got connected. Yes. Yeah. that's how we got connected. Yes. Yeah. Uh so shout out to Jean and uh you know Uh so shout out to Jean and uh you know Uh so shout out to Jean and uh you know my business partner Sean Dn the best. my business partner Sean Dn the best. my business partner Sean Dn the best. >> Uh but yeah, bringing you on board was >> Uh but yeah, bringing you on board was >> Uh but yeah, bringing you on board was >> was a great addition to specifically the >> was a great addition to specifically the >> was a great addition to specifically the summit. I mean the workout was awesome summit. I mean the workout was awesome summit. I mean the workout was awesome anyway. anyway. anyway. >> Um and having you there is great, but >> Um and having you there is great, but >> Um and having you there is great, but the summit was like a real like intimate the summit was like a real like intimate the summit was like a real like intimate experience, you know, with the sauna and experience, you know, with the sauna and experience, you know, with the sauna and the coal plunging and you run a the coal plunging and you run a the coal plunging and you run a tremendous operation. Thank you. tremendous operation. Thank you. tremendous operation. Thank you. >> I I just want to say that and I want to >> I I just want to say that and I want to >> I I just want to say that and I want to encourage everybody as you guys hear the encourage everybody as you guys hear the encourage everybody as you guys hear the story and you guys um become familiar story and you guys um become familiar story and you guys um become familiar with what Ginger is doing. If you have with what Ginger is doing. If you have with what Ginger is doing. If you have private events or anything like that, private events or anything like that, private events or anything like that, her bringing this sauna is a her bringing this sauna is a her bringing this sauna is a one-ofa-kind experience. I mean, one-ofa-kind experience. I mean, one-ofa-kind experience. I mean, everything from the wood burning smell,
05:00everything from the wood burning smell, everything from the wood burning smell, uh the ambiance, the um the oils that uh the ambiance, the um the oils that uh the ambiance, the um the oils that you're putting into the sauna to make it you're putting into the sauna to make it you're putting into the sauna to make it smell like that, uh the coal plunge is smell like that, uh the coal plunge is smell like that, uh the coal plunge is so clean. Just I I can't say enough so clean. Just I I can't say enough so clean. Just I I can't say enough about it. So, I just want to thank you. about it. So, I just want to thank you. about it. So, I just want to thank you. Oh my gosh. Oh my gosh. Oh my gosh. >> But it's it is a u it's it's amazing >> But it's it is a u it's it's amazing >> But it's it is a u it's it's amazing because I actually sauna every day because I actually sauna every day because I actually sauna every day myself. myself. myself. >> Um but you know just being there that >> Um but you know just being there that >> Um but you know just being there that 200° felt a lot hotter than uh typically 200° felt a lot hotter than uh typically 200° felt a lot hotter than uh typically what I'm feeling. what I'm feeling. what I'm feeling. >> Mhm. What temperature do you normally >> Mhm. What temperature do you normally >> Mhm. What temperature do you normally have yourself? have yourself? have yourself? >> It says it it says it's at 190 to 200 >> It says it it says it's at 190 to 200 >> It says it it says it's at 190 to 200 but it's a 24-hour fitness. I don't know but it's a 24-hour fitness. I don't know but it's a 24-hour fitness. I don't know if it's you know what I mean. Yeah. if it's you know what I mean. Yeah. if it's you know what I mean. Yeah. >> I don't know if it's that. But >> I don't know if it's that. But >> I don't know if it's that. But [laughter] um [laughter] um [laughter] um >> I think the wood burning I think the gym >> I think the wood burning I think the gym >> I think the wood burning I think the gym obviously is like electric. It's like obviously is like electric. It's like obviously is like electric. It's like stones and stuff, right? So, I think stones and stuff, right? So, I think stones and stuff, right? So, I think it's like a different a different feel. it's like a different a different feel. it's like a different a different feel. >> Says don't pour water in. I'm the guy >> Says don't pour water in. I'm the guy >> Says don't pour water in. I'm the guy that that that >> it's such a pain in the like I don't >> it's such a pain in the like I don't >> it's such a pain in the like I don't know. I know they they have liability know. I know they they have liability know. I know they they have liability issues and all of that, but that's why I issues and all of that, but that's why I issues and all of that, but that's why I chose the wood burning because I wanted chose the wood burning because I wanted chose the wood burning because I wanted it to be it to be it to be >> really like a really grounded >> really like a really grounded >> really like a really grounded experience. And I was [clears throat] experience. And I was [clears throat] experience. And I was [clears throat] reading a study saying that um
06:00reading a study saying that um reading a study saying that um ancestrally when we look at fire um I ancestrally when we look at fire um I ancestrally when we look at fire um I don't know if I shared it that day in don't know if I shared it that day in don't know if I shared it that day in the sauna with all of you guys, but when the sauna with all of you guys, but when the sauna with all of you guys, but when we look at fire, we have like a we look at fire, we have like a we look at fire, we have like a biological physiological response. Um, biological physiological response. Um, biological physiological response. Um, our ancestors obviously were building our ancestors obviously were building our ancestors obviously were building fires. Um, and there's like a safety and fires. Um, and there's like a safety and fires. Um, and there's like a safety and security feel that we get when we look security feel that we get when we look security feel that we get when we look and we gaze, especially gazing down at and we gaze, especially gazing down at and we gaze, especially gazing down at fire. So whether that's in a fire pit or fire. So whether that's in a fire pit or fire. So whether that's in a fire pit or whether that's in the sauna stove, whether that's in the sauna stove, whether that's in the sauna stove, there's like a physiological response there's like a physiological response there's like a physiological response that we have that sort of calms the that we have that sort of calms the that we have that sort of calms the central nervous system. central nervous system. central nervous system. >> Um, I guess you know being warm and >> Um, I guess you know being warm and >> Um, I guess you know being warm and being able to cook food are two things being able to cook food are two things being able to cook food are two things that are um, safety associated. So, you that are um, safety associated. So, you that are um, safety associated. So, you know, my sauna and thank you so much for know, my sauna and thank you so much for know, my sauna and thank you so much for the comments on the experience. U for the comments on the experience. U for the comments on the experience. U for me, it's super important for that entire me, it's super important for that entire me, it's super important for that entire situation. You know, whether it's the situation. You know, whether it's the situation. You know, whether it's the vibes of the fire in the sauna stove or vibes of the fire in the sauna stove or vibes of the fire in the sauna stove or whether it's the scent of the organic whether it's the scent of the organic whether it's the scent of the organic clean essential oils or it's all cedar, clean essential oils or it's all cedar, clean essential oils or it's all cedar, my entire situation is non-toxic. my entire situation is non-toxic. my entire situation is non-toxic. There's no microplastics in there. you
07:00There's no microplastics in there. you There's no microplastics in there. you know, when you're when you're sweating know, when you're when you're sweating know, when you're when you're sweating and you're open opening your pores, the and you're open opening your pores, the and you're open opening your pores, the last thing you want to be doing is last thing you want to be doing is last thing you want to be doing is having a lot of toxic toxins get into having a lot of toxic toxins get into having a lot of toxic toxins get into the system. So, I am very very the system. So, I am very very the system. So, I am very very intentional about what goes on in the intentional about what goes on in the intentional about what goes on in the sauna, right down to the fact that the sauna, right down to the fact that the sauna, right down to the fact that the towels are cotton, towels are cotton, towels are cotton, >> um the water is filtered, that you're in >> um the water is filtered, that you're in >> um the water is filtered, that you're in the cold punch tub, um in the shower. I the cold punch tub, um in the shower. I the cold punch tub, um in the shower. I mean, all of those things are super mean, all of those things are super mean, all of those things are super important, but the grounded experience important, but the grounded experience important, but the grounded experience of being in there, whether it's the fire of being in there, whether it's the fire of being in there, whether it's the fire or the smell or, you know, but the or the smell or, you know, but the or the smell or, you know, but the connection to the people in the sauna. I connection to the people in the sauna. I connection to the people in the sauna. I mean, I loved when you guys were all in mean, I loved when you guys were all in mean, I loved when you guys were all in there that it was, there that it was, there that it was, >> you know, it's very intimate. You're all >> you know, it's very intimate. You're all >> you know, it's very intimate. You're all sitting up against each other, sitting up against each other, sitting up against each other, >> sweating, you're doing something hard. >> sweating, you're doing something hard. >> sweating, you're doing something hard. And I love that it was at the end of And I love that it was at the end of And I love that it was at the end of your weekend because I feel it was like your weekend because I feel it was like your weekend because I feel it was like a bit of a ceiling, a bit of a ceiling, a bit of a ceiling, >> you know, ceremony, especially after you >> you know, ceremony, especially after you >> you know, ceremony, especially after you guys were up in the woods guys were up in the woods guys were up in the woods >> smacking that wood was like crazy to be >> smacking that wood was like crazy to be >> smacking that wood was like crazy to be down there listening to everyone. It was down there listening to everyone. It was down there listening to everyone. It was so good. I was like, "What? The sun's
08:00so good. I was like, "What? The sun's so good. I was like, "What? The sun's like coming up and the fire's going and like coming up and the fire's going and like coming up and the fire's going and I can hear you guys in the background." I can hear you guys in the background." I can hear you guys in the background." It was it was amazing. It was it was amazing. It was it was amazing. >> You know, it's crazy. Yeah, just to give >> You know, it's crazy. Yeah, just to give >> You know, it's crazy. Yeah, just to give some context um to what Jinger is some context um to what Jinger is some context um to what Jinger is talking about. So, we had her there on talking about. So, we had her there on talking about. So, we had her there on the third day of our uh Ace Summit 3, the third day of our uh Ace Summit 3, the third day of our uh Ace Summit 3, which was the third one that we ever did which was the third one that we ever did which was the third one that we ever did in the Catskill Mountains. And we had in the Catskill Mountains. And we had in the Catskill Mountains. And we had you come on recovery Sunday, and these you come on recovery Sunday, and these you come on recovery Sunday, and these guys go through a journey. You know, guys go through a journey. You know, guys go through a journey. You know, they they get there Friday night and we they they get there Friday night and we they they get there Friday night and we we do intention setting. Um and then we do intention setting. Um and then we do intention setting. Um and then Saturday is all about like, you know, Saturday is all about like, you know, Saturday is all about like, you know, >> it's a long day and it's a lot of hard >> it's a long day and it's a lot of hard >> it's a long day and it's a lot of hard physical work, a lot of hard mental physical work, a lot of hard mental physical work, a lot of hard mental work. And then Sunday morning, we work. And then Sunday morning, we work. And then Sunday morning, we probably have our hardest physical day probably have our hardest physical day probably have our hardest physical day on purpose. Uh because we want to show on purpose. Uh because we want to show on purpose. Uh because we want to show them that like after that final physical them that like after that final physical them that like after that final physical battle, like it's time to come down, battle, like it's time to come down, battle, like it's time to come down, time to rest, and time to recover. So time to rest, and time to recover. So time to rest, and time to recover. So Jinger was able to witness the um the Jinger was able to witness the um the Jinger was able to witness the um the savagery that was going on at the top of savagery that was going on at the top of savagery that was going on at the top of the hill. I remember I came down, I gave the hill. I remember I came down, I gave the hill. I remember I came down, I gave you a hug. I was like, "Did you hear all you a hug. I was like, "Did you hear all you a hug. I was like, "Did you hear all that?" You were like, "Oh yes, I did." that?" You were like, "Oh yes, I did." that?" You were like, "Oh yes, I did." [laughter] [laughter] I was like trying to be part of me like
09:00I was like trying to be part of me like I was like trying to be part of me like wanted to creep up there and like wanted to creep up there and like wanted to creep up there and like [laughter] take video and even when you [laughter] take video and even when you [laughter] take video and even when you guys were doing the sprints up the hill, guys were doing the sprints up the hill, guys were doing the sprints up the hill, but I felt like, you know, I'm the only but I felt like, you know, I'm the only but I felt like, you know, I'm the only woman. Also, I didn't I wanted to be woman. Also, I didn't I wanted to be woman. Also, I didn't I wanted to be very respectful of the container that very respectful of the container that very respectful of the container that you guys had created and not bring my you guys had created and not bring my you guys had created and not bring my energy and my vibe. So, I was like kind energy and my vibe. So, I was like kind energy and my vibe. So, I was like kind of hovering back. I did get a couple of hovering back. I did get a couple of hovering back. I did get a couple clips of the guys like sprinting up the clips of the guys like sprinting up the clips of the guys like sprinting up the hill, hill, hill, >> but no, I mean, what an amazing thing to >> but no, I mean, what an amazing thing to >> but no, I mean, what an amazing thing to provide your community. Like an an I provide your community. Like an an I provide your community. Like an an I want to do it. I mean, like I'm like, want to do it. I mean, like I'm like, want to do it. I mean, like I'm like, can we do a women's one? can we do a women's one? can we do a women's one? >> Women's one. >> Women's one. >> Women's one. >> I want to go chop down a tree. I mean, I >> I want to go chop down a tree. I mean, I >> I want to go chop down a tree. I mean, I don't think I'd be able to chop down a don't think I'd be able to chop down a don't think I'd be able to chop down a tree, but I mean, I do chop wood, you tree, but I mean, I do chop wood, you tree, but I mean, I do chop wood, you know? So, that that's amazing. I love know? So, that that's amazing. I love know? So, that that's amazing. I love that. And it did feel very like you had that. And it did feel very like you had that. And it did feel very like you had that peak moment and then everybody came that peak moment and then everybody came that peak moment and then everybody came and was able to like really chill. and was able to like really chill. and was able to like really chill. >> Yeah. You you put us in a great state. >> Yeah. You you put us in a great state. >> Yeah. You you put us in a great state. just a great state of mind and you set just a great state of mind and you set just a great state of mind and you set us up for for Shannon to come and do a us up for for Shannon to come and do a us up for for Shannon to come and do a uh uh uh >> mindful v a v visualization with us to >> mindful v a v visualization with us to >> mindful v a v visualization with us to cap it off but Sean and I the way we cap it off but Sean and I the way we cap it off but Sean and I the way we structured is very strategic with all structured is very strategic with all structured is very strategic with all this stuff and having you there um I I I
10:00this stuff and having you there um I I I this stuff and having you there um I I I know we'll be having you back so know we'll be having you back so know we'll be having you back so >> that's awesome. Yeah, it was a blessing >> that's awesome. Yeah, it was a blessing >> that's awesome. Yeah, it was a blessing to be able to to be able to to be able to >> um even connect with a few of the guys, >> um even connect with a few of the guys, >> um even connect with a few of the guys, you know, in a deeper way when they were you know, in a deeper way when they were you know, in a deeper way when they were sort of standing outside waiting for sort of standing outside waiting for sort of standing outside waiting for their turn to get into the sun. I think their turn to get into the sun. I think their turn to get into the sun. I think I had a conversation with one of them. I had a conversation with one of them. I had a conversation with one of them. He said to me, you know, we were talking He said to me, you know, we were talking He said to me, you know, we were talking about relationships and, you know, my about relationships and, you know, my about relationships and, you know, my girlfriend um asks, you know, is always girlfriend um asks, you know, is always girlfriend um asks, you know, is always like texting me with like this download like texting me with like this download like texting me with like this download of all of this stuff and she was like of all of this stuff and she was like of all of this stuff and she was like complaining about something that had complaining about something that had complaining about something that had happened to her and I didn't really happened to her and I didn't really happened to her and I didn't really agree with her perspective and what, you agree with her perspective and what, you agree with her perspective and what, you know, how would you respond? Like what know, how would you respond? Like what know, how would you respond? Like what would you recommend I respond? I was would you recommend I respond? I was would you recommend I respond? I was like, wow. like there was three or four like, wow. like there was three or four like, wow. like there was three or four of them sort of really intently and I of them sort of really intently and I of them sort of really intently and I think Clauddio had a I think I had a think Clauddio had a I think I had a think Clauddio had a I think I had a microphone on me at one point for that microphone on me at one point for that microphone on me at one point for that which I'd be really curious to hear which I'd be really curious to hear which I'd be really curious to hear because I actually forgot that he'd left because I actually forgot that he'd left because I actually forgot that he'd left that on me. So the entire session with that on me. So the entire session with that on me. So the entire session with you guys I was being recorded like you guys I was being recorded like you guys I was being recorded like talking to them about talking to them about talking to them about >> very deep things that they were in >> very deep things that they were in >> very deep things that they were in inquiring about and I love that. I had inquiring about and I love that. I had inquiring about and I love that. I had another conversation with I'm gonna another conversation with I'm gonna another conversation with I'm gonna forget his name and it probably doesn't forget his name and it probably doesn't forget his name and it probably doesn't matter but um about you know the brain
11:00matter but um about you know the brain matter but um about you know the brain and how the central nervous system and how the central nervous system and how the central nervous system responds to being in the sauna. Maybe responds to being in the sauna. Maybe responds to being in the sauna. Maybe Ian. Yes, it was Ian. Ian. Yes, it was Ian. Ian. Yes, it was Ian. >> Um talking about you know we were >> Um talking about you know we were >> Um talking about you know we were talking about placentas at one point talking about placentas at one point talking about placentas at one point like being vegan and how a vegan like being vegan and how a vegan like being vegan and how a vegan placenta looks. I mean, just the crazy placenta looks. I mean, just the crazy placenta looks. I mean, just the crazy conversations that I get to have with conversations that I get to have with conversations that I get to have with people that are, you know, really people that are, you know, really people that are, you know, really plugged in, really self-aware, plugged in, really self-aware, plugged in, really self-aware, um, really wanting to learn from me and um, really wanting to learn from me and um, really wanting to learn from me and I learn from them. And those sort of I learn from them. And those sort of I learn from them. And those sort of shared experiences are probably the best shared experiences are probably the best shared experiences are probably the best part of what I do. Like yes, I have a part of what I do. Like yes, I have a part of what I do. Like yes, I have a modality around, you know, doing modality around, you know, doing modality around, you know, doing something physiological for your body, something physiological for your body, something physiological for your body, but the connection piece, which is what but the connection piece, which is what but the connection piece, which is what it says in my bio, is is what makes when it says in my bio, is is what makes when it says in my bio, is is what makes when I leave, what makes me happy is the fact I leave, what makes me happy is the fact I leave, what makes me happy is the fact that I've been able to connect to people that I've been able to connect to people that I've been able to connect to people and learn from them and they're so happy and learn from them and they're so happy and learn from them and they're so happy and they feel good and they express and they feel good and they express and they feel good and they express that. I mean, it's like the best thing that. I mean, it's like the best thing that. I mean, it's like the best thing ever. I mean, that was my goal is to ever. I mean, that was my goal is to ever. I mean, that was my goal is to create a job for myself that I love and create a job for myself that I love and create a job for myself that I love and that I'm passionate about and I get paid
12:00that I'm passionate about and I get paid that I'm passionate about and I get paid to do it. You know, I think that's to do it. You know, I think that's to do it. You know, I think that's everybody's goal and I it's really hard everybody's goal and I it's really hard everybody's goal and I it's really hard to do, but um you know, yeah, doing hard to do, but um you know, yeah, doing hard to do, but um you know, yeah, doing hard things, right? things, right? things, right? >> You're doing a wonderful job. >> You're doing a wonderful job. >> You're doing a wonderful job. >> Thank you. >> Thank you. >> Thank you. >> Um so, I want to dive a little bit >> Um so, I want to dive a little bit >> Um so, I want to dive a little bit deeper. Um and I guess the first thing deeper. Um and I guess the first thing deeper. Um and I guess the first thing that really comes to mind is take us that really comes to mind is take us that really comes to mind is take us back and talk about the moment that back and talk about the moment that back and talk about the moment that really created Kin for you. Um, I guess really created Kin for you. Um, I guess really created Kin for you. Um, I guess what sparked the idea for for this what sparked the idea for for this what sparked the idea for for this business? business? business? >> Yeah. Okay. So, there's a couple of >> Yeah. Okay. So, there's a couple of >> Yeah. Okay. So, there's a couple of things. The first one, I've been a Sauna things. The first one, I've been a Sauna things. The first one, I've been a Sauna for about 16 years. Um, and I've been a for about 16 years. Um, and I've been a for about 16 years. Um, and I've been a health coach, so I was very aware of health coach, so I was very aware of health coach, so I was very aware of Wimhof. Um, he was not my vibe. I was Wimhof. Um, he was not my vibe. I was Wimhof. Um, he was not my vibe. I was just like, you know, it's too extreme. just like, you know, it's too extreme. just like, you know, it's too extreme. >> Breathing piece, >> Breathing piece, >> Breathing piece, >> just all of it. Like, you know, he's >> just all of it. Like, you know, he's >> just all of it. Like, you know, he's very male. His energy is very male. And very male. His energy is very male. And very male. His energy is very male. And I I guess I would say that I'm a little I I guess I would say that I'm a little I I guess I would say that I'm a little more nature focused, a little more more nature focused, a little more more nature focused, a little more grounded, a little more zen. It's sort grounded, a little more zen. It's sort grounded, a little more zen. It's sort of my my energy. Um, but I also just of my my energy. Um, but I also just of my my energy. Um, but I also just didn't like the cold. So, I was like, I didn't like the cold. So, I was like, I didn't like the cold. So, I was like, I am never doing that. I know I keep
13:00am never doing that. I know I keep am never doing that. I know I keep having all these people tell me how having all these people tell me how having all these people tell me how amazing it is for your body, but I was amazing it is for your body, but I was amazing it is for your body, but I was not interested. And a friend of mine not interested. And a friend of mine not interested. And a friend of mine three years ago this month um came to me three years ago this month um came to me three years ago this month um came to me and said, you know, I'm going to start a and said, you know, I'm going to start a and said, you know, I'm going to start a I'm going to start cold plunging the I'm going to start cold plunging the I'm going to start cold plunging the Long Island Sound with a few people. You Long Island Sound with a few people. You Long Island Sound with a few people. You got to come. And I was like, oh, fine. got to come. And I was like, oh, fine. got to come. And I was like, oh, fine. like the universe keeps pushing it to like the universe keeps pushing it to like the universe keeps pushing it to me, so I'll go. And I went, it was like me, so I'll go. And I went, it was like me, so I'll go. And I went, it was like October 15th or something. And I got out October 15th or something. And I got out October 15th or something. And I got out of that water after a minute. The water of that water after a minute. The water of that water after a minute. The water was probably like 56 degrees or was probably like 56 degrees or was probably like 56 degrees or something. It just has to be below 60 to something. It just has to be below 60 to something. It just has to be below 60 to have the benefits. I got out and I was have the benefits. I got out and I was have the benefits. I got out and I was like, this why have I waited so long to like, this why have I waited so long to like, this why have I waited so long to do this? I felt incredible. do this? I felt incredible. do this? I felt incredible. >> Um, but then I went home and I got in >> Um, but then I went home and I got in >> Um, but then I went home and I got in the sauna because I have a infrared at the sauna because I have a infrared at the sauna because I have a infrared at home in my in my house. And then the home in my in my house. And then the home in my in my house. And then the next week we went back. I told everyone next week we went back. I told everyone next week we went back. I told everyone like this was amazing. I love the like this was amazing. I love the like this was amazing. I love the community aspect. I love being outside. community aspect. I love being outside. community aspect. I love being outside. But I went home and got in the sauna and But I went home and got in the sauna and But I went home and got in the sauna and it felt amazing. And then I started to it felt amazing. And then I started to it felt amazing. And then I started to realize that there's this thing called realize that there's this thing called realize that there's this thing called contrast therapy that the Scandinavians contrast therapy that the Scandinavians contrast therapy that the Scandinavians do. And I think like week three I went
14:00do. And I think like week three I went do. And I think like week three I went back and said, I'm going to have a back and said, I'm going to have a back and said, I'm going to have a mobile sauna. I'm going to figure this mobile sauna. I'm going to figure this mobile sauna. I'm going to figure this out. I started researching and I found a out. I started researching and I found a out. I started researching and I found a woman in Maine that not really mobile, woman in Maine that not really mobile, woman in Maine that not really mobile, but she had built one that she pulled in but she had built one that she pulled in but she had built one that she pulled in on wheels to like a resort and she had a on wheels to like a resort and she had a on wheels to like a resort and she had a permanent location. And then I saw that permanent location. And then I saw that permanent location. And then I saw that in Scandinavia this is common that a lot in Scandinavia this is common that a lot in Scandinavia this is common that a lot of people have mobile saunas that they of people have mobile saunas that they of people have mobile saunas that they take up to their like weekend cottages take up to their like weekend cottages take up to their like weekend cottages and um so then I started just doing a and um so then I started just doing a and um so then I started just doing a deep dive into all of that and it deep dive into all of that and it deep dive into all of that and it really, you know, I thought, well, how really, you know, I thought, well, how really, you know, I thought, well, how can I do this? I'm a single mom. I don't can I do this? I'm a single mom. I don't can I do this? I'm a single mom. I don't just have an extra 50 to 100 grand just have an extra 50 to 100 grand just have an extra 50 to 100 grand sitting around to be to be able to sitting around to be to be able to sitting around to be to be able to invest it. So I started cold punch invest it. So I started cold punch invest it. So I started cold punch coaching. Um so I bought my coal punch coaching. Um so I bought my coal punch coaching. Um so I bought my coal punch tub and I started doing that in my home tub and I started doing that in my home tub and I started doing that in my home and popping up. And then I added a tent and popping up. And then I added a tent and popping up. And then I added a tent sauna. So that was also wood burning but sauna. So that was also wood burning but sauna. So that was also wood burning but I would be able to pick it up and take I would be able to pick it up and take I would be able to pick it up and take it to events and private inhome um it to events and private inhome um it to events and private inhome um events and things. And everyone just events and things. And everyone just events and things. And everyone just kept saying I want to do this all the kept saying I want to do this all the kept saying I want to do this all the time. And it I couldn't because if it time. And it I couldn't because if it time. And it I couldn't because if it was raining I couldn't do it. If it was was raining I couldn't do it. If it was was raining I couldn't do it. If it was windy, the tent would blow over. So, you
15:00windy, the tent would blow over. So, you windy, the tent would blow over. So, you know, trial and error over 18 months or know, trial and error over 18 months or know, trial and error over 18 months or so of doing that. I knew exactly from my so of doing that. I knew exactly from my so of doing that. I knew exactly from my design background what I wanted to do. design background what I wanted to do. design background what I wanted to do. But honestly, it wasn't just the But honestly, it wasn't just the But honestly, it wasn't just the finances. It was, you know, I just don't finances. It was, you know, I just don't finances. It was, you know, I just don't think I was ready. I don't think I was think I was ready. I don't think I was think I was ready. I don't think I was confident enough and um prepared for confident enough and um prepared for confident enough and um prepared for that sort of risk on on me taking the that sort of risk on on me taking the that sort of risk on on me taking the risk in myself. And um towards the end risk in myself. And um towards the end risk in myself. And um towards the end of last year, beginning of this year, of last year, beginning of this year, of last year, beginning of this year, January, I had my mother had a stroke January, I had my mother had a stroke January, I had my mother had a stroke last October, last October, last October, um my sister's taking care of her. um my sister's taking care of her. um my sister's taking care of her. January, I had a relationship end. Um my January, I had a relationship end. Um my January, I had a relationship end. Um my house I was living in that I was house I was living in that I was house I was living in that I was renting, I had sold my house the year renting, I had sold my house the year renting, I had sold my house the year before for financial re partly for before for financial re partly for before for financial re partly for financial reasons. And I didn't I just financial reasons. And I didn't I just financial reasons. And I didn't I just wanted to have some money in the bank wanted to have some money in the bank wanted to have some money in the bank and not worry. And um I had to move out and not worry. And um I had to move out and not worry. And um I had to move out of my rental home. They decided to sell of my rental home. They decided to sell of my rental home. They decided to sell the house. And I was like, what is the house. And I was like, what is the house. And I was like, what is happening? like what am I supposed to be happening? like what am I supposed to be happening? like what am I supposed to be taking from this? I had a business taking from this? I had a business taking from this? I had a business relationship end. Um, and I I don't want
16:00relationship end. Um, and I I don't want relationship end. Um, and I I don't want to use the word rock bottom because to use the word rock bottom because to use the word rock bottom because that's certainly a little dramatic, but that's certainly a little dramatic, but that's certainly a little dramatic, but I was in a place of like, what am I I was in a place of like, what am I I was in a place of like, what am I doing? Do I go get a job? Do I start my doing? Do I go get a job? Do I start my doing? Do I go get a job? Do I start my own brand? And I don't know, we had like own brand? And I don't know, we had like own brand? And I don't know, we had like the Lionsgate portal. I It's kind of the Lionsgate portal. I It's kind of the Lionsgate portal. I It's kind of woowoo happened like last March around woowoo happened like last March around woowoo happened like last March around the same time. And it was all about the same time. And it was all about the same time. And it was all about renewal and digging deep within renewal and digging deep within renewal and digging deep within yourself. And I don't know what yourself. And I don't know what yourself. And I don't know what happened. I moved. There was boxes happened. I moved. There was boxes happened. I moved. There was boxes everywhere. I had this new house, which everywhere. I had this new house, which everywhere. I had this new house, which has ended up being amazing, that I was has ended up being amazing, that I was has ended up being amazing, that I was kind of stressed out about, but I just kind of stressed out about, but I just kind of stressed out about, but I just decided I woke up one day and was like, decided I woke up one day and was like, decided I woke up one day and was like, I'm done. I'm done playing small. I'm I'm done. I'm done playing small. I'm I'm done. I'm done playing small. I'm done worrying about what other people done worrying about what other people done worrying about what other people need me to do. I just want to do this. need me to do. I just want to do this. need me to do. I just want to do this. And I designed the sauna. I went and And I designed the sauna. I went and And I designed the sauna. I went and found someone that was doing something found someone that was doing something found someone that was doing something similar. And we worked together to build similar. And we worked together to build similar. And we worked together to build exactly what I needed with my exactly what I needed with my exactly what I needed with my specifications. specifications. specifications. and I hired a branding company and I and I hired a branding company and I and I hired a branding company and I just was like, I'm doing it. If I'm just was like, I'm doing it. If I'm just was like, I'm doing it. If I'm gonna do it, I'm gonna do it right. And gonna do it, I'm gonna do it right. And gonna do it, I'm gonna do it right. And that's what I've been doing. So that that's what I've been doing. So that that's what I've been doing. So that started kicked off in May, designed the
17:00started kicked off in May, designed the started kicked off in May, designed the sauna in April. I took possession of the sauna in April. I took possession of the sauna in April. I took possession of the sauna in July, end of June, July this sauna in July, end of June, July this sauna in July, end of June, July this year. year. year. >> And so really, it's been four months, >> And so really, it's been four months, >> And so really, it's been four months, not even four months. not even four months. not even four months. >> And it has been easily the most amazing >> And it has been easily the most amazing >> And it has been easily the most amazing experience. If if if this never works experience. If if if this never works experience. If if if this never works out, it has been incredible. the people out, it has been incredible. the people out, it has been incredible. the people I've met, the places I get to go, I get I've met, the places I get to go, I get I've met, the places I get to go, I get to be outside like in the Catkills with to be outside like in the Catkills with to be outside like in the Catkills with you all. Um, I get to be in nature, my you all. Um, I get to be in nature, my you all. Um, I get to be in nature, my favorite place to be. Um, so that's it. favorite place to be. Um, so that's it. favorite place to be. Um, so that's it. And the and kin, you know, I agonized And the and kin, you know, I agonized And the and kin, you know, I agonized for three years trying to think of a for three years trying to think of a for three years trying to think of a name. What would I call my company? Um, name. What would I call my company? Um, name. What would I call my company? Um, and kin is a Celtic word for family, for and kin is a Celtic word for family, for and kin is a Celtic word for family, for community. So, you're my next of kin. community. So, you're my next of kin. community. So, you're my next of kin. You're my kin. Um, and I have a very You're my kin. Um, and I have a very You're my kin. Um, and I have a very good friend who's a marketing good friend who's a marketing good friend who's a marketing specialist, and he's like, "What about specialist, and he's like, "What about specialist, and he's like, "What about two eyes?" Because it's like two people two eyes?" Because it's like two people two eyes?" Because it's like two people inside of this safe space, inside of a inside of this safe space, inside of a inside of this safe space, inside of a container. Like the K and the N are container. Like the K and the N are container. Like the K and the N are walls of the sauna. And I just was like walls of the sauna. And I just was like walls of the sauna. And I just was like done. It took me 30 seconds to visualize
18:00done. It took me 30 seconds to visualize done. It took me 30 seconds to visualize it, and I was like, that's the best name it, and I was like, that's the best name it, and I was like, that's the best name ever. Um, so I'm I'm thrilled. That's ever. Um, so I'm I'm thrilled. That's ever. Um, so I'm I'm thrilled. That's the story. Um, trial and error, throwing the story. Um, trial and error, throwing the story. Um, trial and error, throwing spaghetti at the wall and something spaghetti at the wall and something spaghetti at the wall and something finally sticking. And I think as an finally sticking. And I think as an finally sticking. And I think as an entrepreneur, I'm sure you're going to entrepreneur, I'm sure you're going to entrepreneur, I'm sure you're going to relate is that you just try things. You relate is that you just try things. You relate is that you just try things. You know, I have a tallow face cream that I know, I have a tallow face cream that I know, I have a tallow face cream that I created and, you know, I'm revisiting created and, you know, I'm revisiting created and, you know, I'm revisiting that and I was a health coach and then I that and I was a health coach and then I that and I was a health coach and then I did the sauna and the coal plunge and did the sauna and the coal plunge and did the sauna and the coal plunge and it's like, you know, finally you see a it's like, you know, finally you see a it's like, you know, finally you see a path where people are like, I I love path where people are like, I I love path where people are like, I I love what you do when I'm with you. It's what you do when I'm with you. It's what you do when I'm with you. It's incredible. I want to experience this incredible. I want to experience this incredible. I want to experience this all the time. And it's like, oh, you go all the time. And it's like, oh, you go all the time. And it's like, oh, you go home and you think about that and and it home and you think about that and and it home and you think about that and and it was a calling for me to be able to was a calling for me to be able to was a calling for me to be able to connect with people, connect them to connect with people, connect them to connect with people, connect them to themselves, connect them to others, and themselves, connect them to others, and themselves, connect them to others, and connect them in nature. And that's where connect them in nature. And that's where connect them in nature. And that's where I've ended up. So I'm so grateful to the I've ended up. So I'm so grateful to the I've ended up. So I'm so grateful to the universe, God, the higher power, um that universe, God, the higher power, um that universe, God, the higher power, um that I have been able to see the gift that I I have been able to see the gift that I I have been able to see the gift that I have to bring to this world and um what
19:00have to bring to this world and um what have to bring to this world and um what the world then gives me as gifts in the world then gives me as gifts in the world then gives me as gifts in return because those connections are return because those connections are return because those connections are what keep me going and educate me in my what keep me going and educate me in my what keep me going and educate me in my life. So life. So life. So >> I mean I don't know about you CV, I >> I mean I don't know about you CV, I >> I mean I don't know about you CV, I think we can end the episode [laughter] think we can end the episode [laughter] think we can end the episode [laughter] here. U I mean no you did such here. U I mean no you did such here. U I mean no you did such >> I told you I like I told you I like to >> I told you I like I told you I like to >> I told you I like I told you I like to talk. No, but but honestly, you know, talk. No, but but honestly, you know, talk. No, but but honestly, you know, you you did a wonderful job um just you you did a wonderful job um just you you did a wonderful job um just telling the story, you know, and I'm telling the story, you know, and I'm telling the story, you know, and I'm sitting here like this because I'm I'm sitting here like this because I'm I'm sitting here like this because I'm I'm very intrigued in the story and very intrigued in the story and very intrigued in the story and obviously, you know, we've we've been obviously, you know, we've we've been obviously, you know, we've we've been able to develop a friendship over the able to develop a friendship over the able to develop a friendship over the just the past couple months, two months just the past couple months, two months just the past couple months, two months maybe. Uh but hearing the the depth of maybe. Uh but hearing the the depth of maybe. Uh but hearing the the depth of the story is what I love. It's why I the story is what I love. It's why I the story is what I love. It's why I love podcasting. Um and you just did a love podcasting. Um and you just did a love podcasting. Um and you just did a tremendous job of explaining it and tremendous job of explaining it and tremendous job of explaining it and everything like really makes sense everything like really makes sense everything like really makes sense >> and I can relate too. you know, there's >> and I can relate too. you know, there's >> and I can relate too. you know, there's so many people see me now, you know, so many people see me now, you know, so many people see me now, you know, with the podcast, with what we're doing with the podcast, with what we're doing with the podcast, with what we're doing with Action Cultivates Excellence, me in with Action Cultivates Excellence, me in with Action Cultivates Excellence, me in the town of Greenberg, and it looks the town of Greenberg, and it looks the town of Greenberg, and it looks really good, you know, really good, you know, really good, you know, >> but they fail to realize often. Um, the >> but they fail to realize often. Um, the >> but they fail to realize often. Um, the things that I don't talk about a lot, things that I don't talk about a lot, things that I don't talk about a lot, like my my failed uh hat company that I
20:00like my my failed uh hat company that I like my my failed uh hat company that I started, my my beard oil company that I started, my my beard oil company that I started, my my beard oil company that I started and failed. Ironically though, I started and failed. Ironically though, I started and failed. Ironically though, I was talking to one of uh my potential was talking to one of uh my potential was talking to one of uh my potential investors. He said, "You know what's investors. He said, "You know what's investors. He said, "You know what's funny? if you started those two funny? if you started those two funny? if you started those two companies right now, they would actually companies right now, they would actually companies right now, they would actually take off because I love hats. I love a take off because I love hats. I love a take off because I love hats. I love a good beard, you know what I mean? But I good beard, you know what I mean? But I good beard, you know what I mean? But I just wasn't I didn't believe in myself just wasn't I didn't believe in myself just wasn't I didn't believe in myself enough at that time. And enough at that time. And enough at that time. And >> and also, you [clears throat] just >> and also, you [clears throat] just >> and also, you [clears throat] just weren't at a place where maybe the weren't at a place where maybe the weren't at a place where maybe the market, your community wasn't ready to market, your community wasn't ready to market, your community wasn't ready to grab onto something like that. grab onto something like that. grab onto something like that. >> I mean, also, I was soft. Let's be >> I mean, also, I was soft. Let's be >> I mean, also, I was soft. Let's be honest, because I went into like five honest, because I went into like five honest, because I went into like five barber shops and I think maybe two of barber shops and I think maybe two of barber shops and I think maybe two of them told me no. And I got so them told me no. And I got so them told me no. And I got so discouraged and I was just like, that's discouraged and I was just like, that's discouraged and I was just like, that's that. Um, and then the hats I like that. Um, and then the hats I like that. Um, and then the hats I like remember I put maybe one or two posts up remember I put maybe one or two posts up remember I put maybe one or two posts up on Snapchat. Okay. didn't get any bites on Snapchat. Okay. didn't get any bites on Snapchat. Okay. didn't get any bites and I just quit like you know what I and I just quit like you know what I and I just quit like you know what I mean? Uh, but it was great, great mean? Uh, but it was great, great mean? Uh, but it was great, great lessons. But I love the fact that you lessons. But I love the fact that you lessons. But I love the fact that you had that calling on you of stop playing had that calling on you of stop playing had that calling on you of stop playing small and then also stop playing the small and then also stop playing the small and then also stop playing the victim, victim, victim, >> right? Like, and I could relate to that >> right? Like, and I could relate to that >> right? Like, and I could relate to that now because now because now because >> even with everything that I'm doing, >> even with everything that I'm doing, >> even with everything that I'm doing, last night I got home at 11:00 and, you last night I got home at 11:00 and, you last night I got home at 11:00 and, you know, woke up at at 5:00 a.m. in the
21:00know, woke up at at 5:00 a.m. in the know, woke up at at 5:00 a.m. in the gym, hit the sauna, had a coaching call, gym, hit the sauna, had a coaching call, gym, hit the sauna, had a coaching call, uh, doing the podcast, going to work uh, doing the podcast, going to work uh, doing the podcast, going to work full-time. Like, there's a lot going on, full-time. Like, there's a lot going on, full-time. Like, there's a lot going on, >> but it's a blessing to be here, >> but it's a blessing to be here, >> but it's a blessing to be here, >> right? 170,000 people did not wake up >> right? 170,000 people did not wake up >> right? 170,000 people did not wake up this morning, but you and I did. this morning, but you and I did. this morning, but you and I did. >> I know. I heard you say that the other >> I know. I heard you say that the other >> I know. I heard you say that the other day on one of your posts and I was like, day on one of your posts and I was like, day on one of your posts and I was like, "What?" "What?" "What?" >> It's unbelievable. It's a lot of people. >> It's unbelievable. It's a lot of people. >> It's unbelievable. It's a lot of people. And I would have some balls to be out And I would have some balls to be out And I would have some balls to be out here complaining off of the life that I here complaining off of the life that I here complaining off of the life that I chose to live. Right. So, business, it's chose to live. Right. So, business, it's chose to live. Right. So, business, it's spelled busyness for a reason. spelled busyness for a reason. spelled busyness for a reason. >> It's not laziness. >> It's not laziness. >> It's not laziness. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Right. Business is hard. um and what >> Right. Business is hard. um and what >> Right. Business is hard. um and what you're doing. I just want to continue to you're doing. I just want to continue to you're doing. I just want to continue to encourage you because you've only been encourage you because you've only been encourage you because you've only been in business the past four months and I'm in business the past four months and I'm in business the past four months and I'm sure there's going to be, you know, es sure there's going to be, you know, es sure there's going to be, you know, es and flows with this, but you have such a and flows with this, but you have such a and flows with this, but you have such a tremendous product that you're going to tremendous product that you're going to tremendous product that you're going to be able to scale. You're going to be be able to scale. You're going to be be able to scale. You're going to be able to get through this tough, able to get through this tough, able to get through this tough, challenging time with with all the challenging time with with all the challenging time with with all the finances. I'm sure it was very expensive finances. I'm sure it was very expensive finances. I'm sure it was very expensive to put together because the quality of to put together because the quality of to put together because the quality of your product is also what stands out to your product is also what stands out to your product is also what stands out to me. And it makes sense with the interior me. And it makes sense with the interior me. And it makes sense with the interior design. design. design. >> When I first read your bio, I was like, >> When I first read your bio, I was like, >> When I first read your bio, I was like, "What the heck is the interior design
22:00"What the heck is the interior design "What the heck is the interior design about?" You know what I mean? But about?" You know what I mean? But about?" You know what I mean? But >> connecting it all back when you see that >> connecting it all back when you see that >> connecting it all back when you see that sauna, the quality of what you've been sauna, the quality of what you've been sauna, the quality of what you've been able to build, uh the colors and able to build, uh the colors and able to build, uh the colors and everything in there, it's just fire. everything in there, it's just fire. everything in there, it's just fire. >> Thank you. >> Thank you. >> Yes. No pun intended with the fire. >> Yes. No pun intended with the fire. >> Yes. No pun intended with the fire. [laughter] You know what I mean? [laughter] You know what I mean? [laughter] You know what I mean? >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Um you traveled. I mean, you lived Well, >> Um you traveled. I mean, you lived Well, >> Um you traveled. I mean, you lived Well, you're from Canada. Yes. Right. And then you're from Canada. Yes. Right. And then you're from Canada. Yes. Right. And then you lived in Asia. you lived in Asia. you lived in Asia. >> I lived in Asia. >> I lived in Asia. >> I lived in Asia. >> Okay. So, how do those cultures now >> Okay. So, how do those cultures now >> Okay. So, how do those cultures now paired with the United States of paired with the United States of paired with the United States of America, I guess, shape your approach to America, I guess, shape your approach to America, I guess, shape your approach to just wellness and connection as a whole? just wellness and connection as a whole? just wellness and connection as a whole? Yeah, I guess the the connection piece Yeah, I guess the the connection piece Yeah, I guess the the connection piece with Asia or living overseas or living with Asia or living overseas or living with Asia or living overseas or living in a different country is really more in a different country is really more in a different country is really more about doing hard things. I feel like about doing hard things. I feel like about doing hard things. I feel like that is what it's taught me that is what it's taught me that is what it's taught me >> is that, you know, I put myself living >> is that, you know, I put myself living >> is that, you know, I put myself living in Hong Kong. That was the first place I in Hong Kong. That was the first place I in Hong Kong. That was the first place I went um with my now ex-husband. went um with my now ex-husband. went um with my now ex-husband. >> And I didn't know where I was. I had >> And I didn't know where I was. I had >> And I didn't know where I was. I had never been to Asia. I couldn't speak the never been to Asia. I couldn't speak the never been to Asia. I couldn't speak the language. I hadn't I started my job yet. language. I hadn't I started my job yet. language. I hadn't I started my job yet. I did have a job there, which is another I did have a job there, which is another I did have a job there, which is another crazy story. But um you know, I remember
23:00crazy story. But um you know, I remember crazy story. But um you know, I remember arriving at like 1:00 in the morning and arriving at like 1:00 in the morning and arriving at like 1:00 in the morning and being in the taxi going to um our home being in the taxi going to um our home being in the taxi going to um our home and like not see understanding any of and like not see understanding any of and like not see understanding any of the language on the signs and I was the language on the signs and I was the language on the signs and I was like, "What the hell have I done? Like like, "What the hell have I done? Like like, "What the hell have I done? Like what am I doing here? This is crazy." what am I doing here? This is crazy." what am I doing here? This is crazy." And that being uncomfortable for quite a And that being uncomfortable for quite a And that being uncomfortable for quite a long time, like not knowing where I was long time, like not knowing where I was long time, like not knowing where I was going, didn't know how to get a taxi, going, didn't know how to get a taxi, going, didn't know how to get a taxi, didn't know how to speak to the taxi didn't know how to speak to the taxi didn't know how to speak to the taxi driver, didn't know how to use the driver, didn't know how to use the driver, didn't know how to use the money, um was the best experience I've money, um was the best experience I've money, um was the best experience I've had in my life. It set me up to realize had in my life. It set me up to realize had in my life. It set me up to realize that how resilient we are. That also that how resilient we are. That also that how resilient we are. That also goes back to my parents' divorce, you goes back to my parents' divorce, you goes back to my parents' divorce, you know, um my parents divorce and I moved know, um my parents divorce and I moved know, um my parents divorce and I moved back to Canada. I was living in Texas at back to Canada. I was living in Texas at back to Canada. I was living in Texas at the time and I moved to Canada with a the time and I moved to Canada with a the time and I moved to Canada with a Texan accent and felt really like a fish Texan accent and felt really like a fish Texan accent and felt really like a fish out of water. And you know, I tell out of water. And you know, I tell out of water. And you know, I tell people all the time that, you know, your people all the time that, you know, your people all the time that, you know, your kids are so resilient and as hard as it kids are so resilient and as hard as it kids are so resilient and as hard as it is for them, and it is, and we all don't is for them, and it is, and we all don't is for them, and it is, and we all don't want to do that to our kids. We want to want to do that to our kids. We want to want to do that to our kids. We want to protect them from divorce. And of protect them from divorce. And of protect them from divorce. And of course, it's ideal to have a family unit course, it's ideal to have a family unit course, it's ideal to have a family unit and have everybody together. But, you
24:00and have everybody together. But, you and have everybody together. But, you know, the the hard things in my life I know, the the hard things in my life I know, the the hard things in my life I see now as complete gifts. And I see now as complete gifts. And I see now as complete gifts. And I actually am excited when I have a actually am excited when I have a actually am excited when I have a challenge now that feels really hard in challenge now that feels really hard in challenge now that feels really hard in a way that maybe a few years ago I a way that maybe a few years ago I a way that maybe a few years ago I wouldn't have felt um that victim wouldn't have felt um that victim wouldn't have felt um that victim mentality. I realized, you know, after mentality. I realized, you know, after mentality. I realized, you know, after getting divorced, I've been divorced for getting divorced, I've been divorced for getting divorced, I've been divorced for seven years, over seven years now. And seven years, over seven years now. And seven years, over seven years now. And boy, that's hard. I mean, I hadn't boy, that's hard. I mean, I hadn't boy, that's hard. I mean, I hadn't worked for 13 years. I was a worked for 13 years. I was a worked for 13 years. I was a stay-at-home mom. That was how I stay-at-home mom. That was how I stay-at-home mom. That was how I identified myself. And I always knew I identified myself. And I always knew I identified myself. And I always knew I would go back to work to do something, would go back to work to do something, would go back to work to do something, but I didn't know, you know, I didn't but I didn't know, you know, I didn't but I didn't know, you know, I didn't think I'd have to do it. And I felt a think I'd have to do it. And I felt a think I'd have to do it. And I felt a little resentful that my divorce ended little resentful that my divorce ended little resentful that my divorce ended in a way that um you know I was really in a way that um you know I was really in a way that um you know I was really angry about what happened and I did I angry about what happened and I did I angry about what happened and I did I think I really stayed in that um victim think I really stayed in that um victim think I really stayed in that um victim mentality. So back to Asia, my parents mentality. So back to Asia, my parents mentality. So back to Asia, my parents divorce, living in Asia, my divorce um divorce, living in Asia, my divorce um divorce, living in Asia, my divorce um it sort of brings a perspective of it sort of brings a perspective of it sort of brings a perspective of you're a lot smaller than you realize. you're a lot smaller than you realize. you're a lot smaller than you realize. Kind of getting back to that 170,000
25:00Kind of getting back to that 170,000 Kind of getting back to that 170,000 people that don't wake up. you know, people that don't wake up. you know, people that don't wake up. you know, you're very small and you have one life you're very small and you have one life you're very small and you have one life and you should do something with it. And and you should do something with it. And and you should do something with it. And if you have the ability to do something if you have the ability to do something if you have the ability to do something that you love and to change other that you love and to change other that you love and to change other people's lives and and and give people's lives and and and give people's lives and and and give something back to this world, why not do something back to this world, why not do something back to this world, why not do it? But sometimes it takes really doing it? But sometimes it takes really doing it? But sometimes it takes really doing hard things to be able to see that. And hard things to be able to see that. And hard things to be able to see that. And for me, Asia was, you know, all about for me, Asia was, you know, all about for me, Asia was, you know, all about that. all about understanding that you that. all about understanding that you that. all about understanding that you know you you learn from these things know you you learn from these things know you you learn from these things hopefully and um can find something good hopefully and um can find something good hopefully and um can find something good out of it. out of it. out of it. >> Well, you definitely did find something >> Well, you definitely did find something >> Well, you definitely did find something good out of it for sure. good out of it for sure. good out of it for sure. >> Took me a while. >> Took me a while. >> Took me a while. >> I mean [laughter] and obviously you know >> I mean [laughter] and obviously you know >> I mean [laughter] and obviously you know I can relate to the uh to divorce aspect I can relate to the uh to divorce aspect I can relate to the uh to divorce aspect which we'll definitely get get more which we'll definitely get get more which we'll definitely get get more into. Um but out of all the I guess ways into. Um but out of all the I guess ways into. Um but out of all the I guess ways to help people heal, why this modality to help people heal, why this modality to help people heal, why this modality of sauna, of sauna, of sauna, >> right? Was it strictly from like you you >> right? Was it strictly from like you you >> right? Was it strictly from like you you said you were a sauna goer for 16 years said you were a sauna goer for 16 years said you were a sauna goer for 16 years or something like that? or something like that? or something like that? >> Um but then seeing cuz Asia has I mean >> Um but then seeing cuz Asia has I mean >> Um but then seeing cuz Asia has I mean they have so many different like levels they have so many different like levels they have so many different like levels of healing too, right?
26:00of healing too, right? of healing too, right? >> U so why specifically the the sauna? Was >> U so why specifically the the sauna? Was >> U so why specifically the the sauna? Was it strictly off of like oh my god I love it strictly off of like oh my god I love it strictly off of like oh my god I love it to do it myself? Like what was it to do it myself? Like what was it to do it myself? Like what was >> Yeah. Well, I think it was just >> Yeah. Well, I think it was just >> Yeah. Well, I think it was just understanding like when I said I started understanding like when I said I started understanding like when I said I started doing cold plunging and realizing the doing cold plunging and realizing the doing cold plunging and realizing the two of them together feels so amazing. two of them together feels so amazing. two of them together feels so amazing. Like for me personally to be able to Like for me personally to be able to Like for me personally to be able to sauna cold plunge and get, you know, the sauna cold plunge and get, you know, the sauna cold plunge and get, you know, the endorphins and the the adrenaline and endorphins and the the adrenaline and endorphins and the the adrenaline and the dopamine and, you know, helping you the dopamine and, you know, helping you the dopamine and, you know, helping you focus. I mean, when you're in that cold focus. I mean, when you're in that cold focus. I mean, when you're in that cold plunge tub, you are not thinking about plunge tub, you are not thinking about plunge tub, you are not thinking about anything else but your body. I feel like anything else but your body. I feel like anything else but your body. I feel like it's the best meditation because you it's the best meditation because you it's the best meditation because you can't think about your grocery list or can't think about your grocery list or can't think about your grocery list or all the things that are going wrong in all the things that are going wrong in all the things that are going wrong in your life because you're really in that your life because you're really in that your life because you're really in that moment. And then being able to get in moment. And then being able to get in moment. And then being able to get in the sauna, you the sauna feels good. the sauna, you the sauna feels good. the sauna, you the sauna feels good. >> So, you know, the cold punch tub does >> So, you know, the cold punch tub does >> So, you know, the cold punch tub does not feel good. So, for me, sauna is the not feel good. So, for me, sauna is the not feel good. So, for me, sauna is the thing that people want to do. They thing that people want to do. They thing that people want to do. They associate the heat with something nice. associate the heat with something nice. associate the heat with something nice. Um, so I think it's like the gateway, Um, so I think it's like the gateway, Um, so I think it's like the gateway, the entry point of like doing the hard the entry point of like doing the hard the entry point of like doing the hard thing, but it feels good, the the hot
27:00thing, but it feels good, the the hot thing, but it feels good, the the hot part. part. part. >> Um, so to me that's the that's the core, >> Um, so to me that's the that's the core, >> Um, so to me that's the that's the core, the sauna is the core of bringing and the sauna is the core of bringing and the sauna is the core of bringing and also in the cold punch tub. I mean, also in the cold punch tub. I mean, also in the cold punch tub. I mean, there's a couple guys that got in there there's a couple guys that got in there there's a couple guys that got in there together during your event, but that's together during your event, but that's together during your event, but that's not normal. Usually it's one person. not normal. Usually it's one person. not normal. Usually it's one person. Something about being in the sauna Something about being in the sauna Something about being in the sauna together as a community. So that for me, together as a community. So that for me, together as a community. So that for me, the sauna, you're getting the the sauna, you're getting the the sauna, you're getting the physiological benefits, you're getting physiological benefits, you're getting physiological benefits, you're getting the mental benefits, you're also the mental benefits, you're also the mental benefits, you're also connecting with community. So for me, connecting with community. So for me, connecting with community. So for me, that container is the star. That's the that container is the star. That's the that container is the star. That's the star of the show. star of the show. star of the show. >> Stay on that piece right there with um >> Stay on that piece right there with um >> Stay on that piece right there with um >> the benefits of sauna, like you know, >> the benefits of sauna, like you know, >> the benefits of sauna, like you know, the longevity uh aspect, the healing the longevity uh aspect, the healing the longevity uh aspect, the healing with I guess soreness and give us some with I guess soreness and give us some with I guess soreness and give us some facts. So we'll we'll do a high level facts. So we'll we'll do a high level facts. So we'll we'll do a high level because I swear there's a separate because I swear there's a separate because I swear there's a separate podcast as you know just for sauna and podcast as you know just for sauna and podcast as you know just for sauna and or cold plunge and or contrast therapy. or cold plunge and or contrast therapy. or cold plunge and or contrast therapy. >> So sauna has so many amazing benefits. >> So sauna has so many amazing benefits. >> So sauna has so many amazing benefits. First of all, you're you're increasing First of all, you're you're increasing First of all, you're you're increasing your core temperature which is going to your core temperature which is going to your core temperature which is going to kill off viruses and bacteria. You're kill off viruses and bacteria. You're kill off viruses and bacteria. You're going to sweat which is going to get rid
28:00going to sweat which is going to get rid going to sweat which is going to get rid of toxins. So you're going to remove of toxins. So you're going to remove of toxins. So you're going to remove microplastics. You're going to remove microplastics. You're going to remove microplastics. You're going to remove heavy metals. Just day-to-day toxins are heavy metals. Just day-to-day toxins are heavy metals. Just day-to-day toxins are going to be excreted through the skin. going to be excreted through the skin. going to be excreted through the skin. Um you also going to get heat shock Um you also going to get heat shock Um you also going to get heat shock proteins which are different from cold proteins which are different from cold proteins which are different from cold shock proteins that you get in the cold shock proteins that you get in the cold shock proteins that you get in the cold punch tub. So those proteins basically punch tub. So those proteins basically punch tub. So those proteins basically go in very simplified description. You go in very simplified description. You go in very simplified description. You have cells the cells get damaged in the have cells the cells get damaged in the have cells the cells get damaged in the body. Um they break down they die and body. Um they break down they die and body. Um they break down they die and the heat shock proteins and cold shock the heat shock proteins and cold shock the heat shock proteins and cold shock proteins go in and clean those cells up proteins go in and clean those cells up proteins go in and clean those cells up so they can fix them and they can so they can fix them and they can so they can fix them and they can actually move out the dead cells. So actually move out the dead cells. So actually move out the dead cells. So that's where the longevity piece comes that's where the longevity piece comes that's where the longevity piece comes in because the the studies are showing in because the the studies are showing in because the the studies are showing 40% reduction in all cause mortality for 40% reduction in all cause mortality for 40% reduction in all cause mortality for two saunas per week at 11 minutes two saunas per week at 11 minutes two saunas per week at 11 minutes between 170 and 205 degrees reduce all between 170 and 205 degrees reduce all between 170 and 205 degrees reduce all cause mortality by 40%. So things like cause mortality by 40%. So things like cause mortality by 40%. So things like cardiovascular issues I mean it's cardiovascular issues I mean it's cardiovascular issues I mean it's incredible heart disease, heart attacks, incredible heart disease, heart attacks, incredible heart disease, heart attacks, the big killers that we know about. So
29:00the big killers that we know about. So the big killers that we know about. So that alone and then you have reduction that alone and then you have reduction that alone and then you have reduction 50% reduction in Alzheimer's and 50% reduction in Alzheimer's and 50% reduction in Alzheimer's and dementia which is I feel like every time dementia which is I feel like every time dementia which is I feel like every time I turn around is like a massive epidemic I turn around is like a massive epidemic I turn around is like a massive epidemic in our parents' generations. I know in our parents' generations. I know in our parents' generations. I know you're younger than me but um you know you're younger than me but um you know you're younger than me but um you know my father has Alzheimer's, my mother has my father has Alzheimer's, my mother has my father has Alzheimer's, my mother has a little bit of dementia. Um she had a a little bit of dementia. Um she had a a little bit of dementia. Um she had a stroke. You know I just think we really stroke. You know I just think we really stroke. You know I just think we really need to get ahead of this situation. Our need to get ahead of this situation. Our need to get ahead of this situation. Our environment is incredibly toxic. Um, you environment is incredibly toxic. Um, you environment is incredibly toxic. Um, you know, our air and our water, the um, know, our air and our water, the um, know, our air and our water, the um, body products we slather ourselves in body products we slather ourselves in body products we slather ourselves in all day. I can go down another rabbit all day. I can go down another rabbit all day. I can go down another rabbit hole where that's concerned. So, you hole where that's concerned. So, you hole where that's concerned. So, you know, the sauna, you know, has all of know, the sauna, you know, has all of know, the sauna, you know, has all of those benefits. And then you combine those benefits. And then you combine those benefits. And then you combine that with the cold plunge and it's even that with the cold plunge and it's even that with the cold plunge and it's even more. more. more. >> So, two >> So, two >> So, two sauna sessions a week, 11 minutes sauna sessions a week, 11 minutes sauna sessions a week, 11 minutes between 170 and 200°. That's it. And between 170 and 200°. That's it. And between 170 and 200°. That's it. And that's 40 that's 40 that's 40 >> 40% reduction >> 40% reduction >> 40% reduction >> of most things and then even up to 50%
30:00>> of most things and then even up to 50% >> of most things and then even up to 50% on some of the big hitters like on some of the big hitters like on some of the big hitters like Alzheimer's and dementia. Alzheimer's and dementia. Alzheimer's and dementia. >> Oh my god. >> Oh my god. >> Oh my god. >> I know. >> I know. >> I know. >> I mean I I do it every day for at least >> I mean I I do it every day for at least >> I mean I I do it every day for at least 15 to 20 minutes. 15 to 20 minutes. 15 to 20 minutes. >> Um >> Um >> Um >> so I I thought it was more for some >> so I I thought it was more for some >> so I I thought it was more for some reason. I thought I've read something reason. I thought I've read something reason. I thought I've read something like four sessions a week at no 20 like four sessions a week at no 20 like four sessions a week at no 20 minutes. minutes. minutes. >> Two to three times a week. I mean that's >> Two to three times a week. I mean that's >> Two to three times a week. I mean that's really good. that is not that hard to really good. that is not that hard to really good. that is not that hard to squeeze into your schedule and why squeeze into your schedule and why squeeze into your schedule and why someone would want to do that. someone would want to do that. someone would want to do that. >> And that's also why I like listen I love >> And that's also why I like listen I love >> And that's also why I like listen I love infrared too. I have an infrared sauna. infrared too. I have an infrared sauna. infrared too. I have an infrared sauna. So there there's always this like So there there's always this like So there there's always this like >> the pitting of the traditional sauna >> the pitting of the traditional sauna >> the pitting of the traditional sauna against the infrared. Like I don't think against the infrared. Like I don't think against the infrared. Like I don't think it's necessary. I think they both have it's necessary. I think they both have it's necessary. I think they both have benefits. They both, you know, infrared benefits. They both, you know, infrared benefits. They both, you know, infrared heats you from the inside out. heats you from the inside out. heats you from the inside out. >> The the wood burning or electric um >> The the wood burning or electric um >> The the wood burning or electric um sauna is going to heat you from the sauna is going to heat you from the sauna is going to heat you from the outside in. Okay. outside in. Okay. outside in. Okay. >> It's going to heat you faster. You're >> It's going to heat you faster. You're >> It's going to heat you faster. You're going to sweat more readily. So you going to sweat more readily. So you going to sweat more readily. So you don't have to spend as much time in the don't have to spend as much time in the don't have to spend as much time in the infrared. I can sit in there for 30 or infrared. I can sit in there for 30 or infrared. I can sit in there for 30 or 40 minutes 40 minutes 40 minutes >> in the infrared >> in the infrared >> in the infrared >> in the infrared. So, it takes longer. >> in the infrared. So, it takes longer. >> in the infrared. So, it takes longer. But then some people will say, "Well, But then some people will say, "Well, But then some people will say, "Well, you're detoxing from the inside out."
31:00you're detoxing from the inside out." you're detoxing from the inside out." So, there's, you know, there's different So, there's, you know, there's different So, there's, you know, there's different >> there's I don't think that they have to >> there's I don't think that they have to >> there's I don't think that they have to be one or the other. I think there's be one or the other. I think there's be one or the other. I think there's different reasons for for each of them. different reasons for for each of them. different reasons for for each of them. My infrared has red light panels in My infrared has red light panels in My infrared has red light panels in front, which I love because I get that front, which I love because I get that front, which I love because I get that extra boost in there, too. Um, and then extra boost in there, too. Um, and then extra boost in there, too. Um, and then never mind just like being a little, you never mind just like being a little, you never mind just like being a little, you know, being vain about your looks. The know, being vain about your looks. The know, being vain about your looks. The sauna, I mean, you're sweating. I mean, sauna, I mean, you're sweating. I mean, sauna, I mean, you're sweating. I mean, it's great for your skin. I mean, when it's great for your skin. I mean, when it's great for your skin. I mean, when you leave, I don't know if you feel like you leave, I don't know if you feel like you leave, I don't know if you feel like you get everything out, your skin feels you get everything out, your skin feels you get everything out, your skin feels like baby smooth. I mean, there's like baby smooth. I mean, there's like baby smooth. I mean, there's something to say about that. That's something to say about that. That's something to say about that. That's >> the only thing I'll disagree with. I >> the only thing I'll disagree with. I >> the only thing I'll disagree with. I have a problem getting out of the sauna have a problem getting out of the sauna have a problem getting out of the sauna and stop and stopping my sweat. I get and stop and stopping my sweat. I get and stop and stopping my sweat. I get into a cold shower, into a cold shower, into a cold shower, >> right? And I do it for like 2, three >> right? And I do it for like 2, three >> right? And I do it for like 2, three minutes. I literally stop timing it minutes. I literally stop timing it minutes. I literally stop timing it because I just do what I got to do and because I just do what I got to do and because I just do what I got to do and get out. get out. get out. >> But then I'm right into my work clothes >> But then I'm right into my work clothes >> But then I'm right into my work clothes and I cannot stop sweating. You're the and I cannot stop sweating. You're the and I cannot stop sweating. You're the second person to say that, second man to second person to say that, second man to second person to say that, second man to tell me this. So, I read something the tell me this. So, I read something the tell me this. So, I read something the other day which I did not understand. other day which I did not understand. other day which I did not understand. You know, I've been seeing why why do You know, I've been seeing why why do You know, I've been seeing why why do men get in the sauna and sweat so much men get in the sauna and sweat so much men get in the sauna and sweat so much more quickly than the women do?
32:00more quickly than the women do? more quickly than the women do? >> Well, I do it after workout, too. So, >> Well, I do it after workout, too. So, >> Well, I do it after workout, too. So, >> Well, that's true. So, you've already >> Well, that's true. So, you've already >> Well, that's true. So, you've already kicked it up. You're already, you know, kicked it up. You're already, you know, kicked it up. You're already, you know, you're already burning. Um, but I found you're already burning. Um, but I found you're already burning. Um, but I found out that women vasoddilate. So, out that women vasoddilate. So, out that women vasoddilate. So, basically, their veins um open up more basically, their veins um open up more basically, their veins um open up more quickly than men do. So the reason we quickly than men do. So the reason we quickly than men do. So the reason we don't sweat as quickly is because our don't sweat as quickly is because our don't sweat as quickly is because our body adapts more quickly to the heat. So body adapts more quickly to the heat. So body adapts more quickly to the heat. So our internal cooling system kicks on and our internal cooling system kicks on and our internal cooling system kicks on and therefore we don't sweat. Men do not. So therefore we don't sweat. Men do not. So therefore we don't sweat. Men do not. So your your vasoddilation comes after you your your vasoddilation comes after you your your vasoddilation comes after you sweat. So you start to sweat because the sweat. So you start to sweat because the sweat. So you start to sweat because the body's like what the hell? I'm so hot. I body's like what the hell? I'm so hot. I body's like what the hell? I'm so hot. I can't cool myself down. So you can't cool myself down. So you can't cool myself down. So you immediately start to sweat. Okay. So immediately start to sweat. Okay. So immediately start to sweat. Okay. So that's why men just like it's people get that's why men just like it's people get that's why men just like it's people get in the sauna and men I'm like okay I'm in the sauna and men I'm like okay I'm in the sauna and men I'm like okay I'm going to give you two towels because going to give you two towels because going to give you two towels because it's literally [laughter] like puddles it's literally [laughter] like puddles it's literally [laughter] like puddles underneath them whereas women can be in underneath them whereas women can be in underneath them whereas women can be in there for 20 minutes and they barely there for 20 minutes and they barely there for 20 minutes and they barely bake break a sweat and there is bake break a sweat and there is bake break a sweat and there is something to say about detox pathways something to say about detox pathways something to say about detox pathways too like people that don't sweat I do too like people that don't sweat I do too like people that don't sweat I do have a few male clients that don't sweat have a few male clients that don't sweat have a few male clients that don't sweat very readily and because now I know this
33:00very readily and because now I know this very readily and because now I know this about the vasoddilation I do worry about about the vasoddilation I do worry about about the vasoddilation I do worry about their detox pathways not being open okay their detox pathways not being open okay their detox pathways not being open okay so there's things that you can do for so there's things that you can do for so there's things that you can do for that so you know more saunas, you train that so you know more saunas, you train that so you know more saunas, you train your body to sweat. Dry brushing before your body to sweat. Dry brushing before your body to sweat. Dry brushing before you get in the sauna. If you think about you get in the sauna. If you think about you get in the sauna. If you think about it, your pores get blocked with dead it, your pores get blocked with dead it, your pores get blocked with dead skin cells, so you move that and that skin cells, so you move that and that skin cells, so you move that and that can help sweating as well. Exercise can help sweating as well. Exercise can help sweating as well. Exercise obviously is a way to sweat. Drinking a obviously is a way to sweat. Drinking a obviously is a way to sweat. Drinking a lot of water, you know, urinating, lot of water, you know, urinating, lot of water, you know, urinating, you've got to make sure that you're you've got to make sure that you're you've got to make sure that you're getting all of those pathways open getting all of those pathways open getting all of those pathways open because if you're not detoxing, all of because if you're not detoxing, all of because if you're not detoxing, all of these toxins that we're talking about in these toxins that we're talking about in these toxins that we're talking about in our environment are staying in the body. our environment are staying in the body. our environment are staying in the body. So that's why sauna is so important for, So that's why sauna is so important for, So that's why sauna is so important for, you know, just adapting to our toxic you know, just adapting to our toxic you know, just adapting to our toxic environment. You know, our our ancestors environment. You know, our our ancestors environment. You know, our our ancestors weren't having to deal with what we're weren't having to deal with what we're weren't having to deal with what we're dealing with. So the reason I think dealing with. So the reason I think dealing with. So the reason I think we're getting so sick mentally and we're getting so sick mentally and we're getting so sick mentally and physically is because we aren't detoxing physically is because we aren't detoxing physically is because we aren't detoxing enough and we're not being careful about enough and we're not being careful about enough and we're not being careful about what we're putting our bodies on our what we're putting our bodies on our what we're putting our bodies on our bodies and and what we're subjecting our bodies and and what we're subjecting our bodies and and what we're subjecting our bodies to.
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36:00was with her mother and then we, you was with her mother and then we, you know, separated, divorced, and I was know, separated, divorced, and I was know, separated, divorced, and I was always a very present father. However, I always a very present father. However, I always a very present father. However, I realized quickly that I, although I was realized quickly that I, although I was realized quickly that I, although I was waking up with her in the middle of the waking up with her in the middle of the waking up with her in the middle of the night, um I was spending as much time as night, um I was spending as much time as night, um I was spending as much time as possible, the possible, the possible, the heavy lifting for my daughter was really heavy lifting for my daughter was really heavy lifting for my daughter was really un un un my ex-wife, right? Like the bathing. my ex-wife, right? Like the bathing. my ex-wife, right? Like the bathing. Yeah. Uh brushing her hair, you know, Yeah. Uh brushing her hair, you know, Yeah. Uh brushing her hair, you know, cleaning her private parts, all of that cleaning her private parts, all of that cleaning her private parts, all of that stuff. So then when I have 5050 custody stuff. So then when I have 5050 custody stuff. So then when I have 5050 custody of my daughter and and my ex-wife and I of my daughter and and my ex-wife and I of my daughter and and my ex-wife and I have a very, you know, healthy have a very, you know, healthy have a very, you know, healthy co-parenting relationship, which I'm I'm co-parenting relationship, which I'm I'm co-parenting relationship, which I'm I'm very grateful for. very grateful for. very grateful for. >> Um that that was the hardest thing was >> Um that that was the hardest thing was >> Um that that was the hardest thing was learning how to really take care of a learning how to really take care of a learning how to really take care of a 2-year-old baby girl. Um while I'm 2-year-old baby girl. Um while I'm 2-year-old baby girl. Um while I'm trying to manage all of the business trying to manage all of the business trying to manage all of the business side of things. Um and it's still side of things. Um and it's still side of things. Um and it's still challenging to this day. you know, now challenging to this day. you know, now challenging to this day. you know, now I'm in a very healthy relationship. You I'm in a very healthy relationship. You I'm in a very healthy relationship. You know, Katie, um, you know, she she lives know, Katie, um, you know, she she lives know, Katie, um, you know, she she lives with us, so it's a it's a blessing. But with us, so it's a it's a blessing. But with us, so it's a it's a blessing. But >> that whole transition of divorce and and >> that whole transition of divorce and and >> that whole transition of divorce and and just heartbreak in general is very hard.
37:00just heartbreak in general is very hard. just heartbreak in general is very hard. >> Oh my gosh, there's so many layers. I >> Oh my gosh, there's so many layers. I >> Oh my gosh, there's so many layers. I don't know. I feel like we need to go don't know. I feel like we need to go don't know. I feel like we need to go and have a coffee and talk about it. Um, and have a coffee and talk about it. Um, and have a coffee and talk about it. Um, >> yeah. I mean, reasons why divorces end, >> yeah. I mean, reasons why divorces end, >> yeah. I mean, reasons why divorces end, like your marriages end. I mean, the like your marriages end. I mean, the like your marriages end. I mean, the divorce reasons are hard as well. you divorce reasons are hard as well. you divorce reasons are hard as well. you know, my um my relationship was not it know, my um my relationship was not it know, my um my relationship was not it was great in the beginning and then was great in the beginning and then was great in the beginning and then there was a lot of infidelity um not on there was a lot of infidelity um not on there was a lot of infidelity um not on my part. Um that was you know the sole my part. Um that was you know the sole my part. Um that was you know the sole reason I think for a lot of the reason I think for a lot of the reason I think for a lot of the insecurities that I still to this day insecurities that I still to this day insecurities that I still to this day deal with. Um you know kind of like you deal with. Um you know kind of like you deal with. Um you know kind of like you touching about you know businesses touching about you know businesses touching about you know businesses failing and things like everybody has failing and things like everybody has failing and things like everybody has their stuff. You know no one's perfect. their stuff. You know no one's perfect. their stuff. You know no one's perfect. It's it's a it's a journey. Um so It's it's a it's a journey. Um so It's it's a it's a journey. Um so getting over the pain and hurt um of the getting over the pain and hurt um of the getting over the pain and hurt um of the person that you love the most that you person that you love the most that you person that you love the most that you have decided to marry that is supposed have decided to marry that is supposed have decided to marry that is supposed to be taking care of you has hurt you. to be taking care of you has hurt you. to be taking care of you has hurt you. Um you know I deal with that every day. Um you know I deal with that every day. Um you know I deal with that every day. You know thank goodness for therapy. So
38:00You know thank goodness for therapy. So You know thank goodness for therapy. So I will say that um financially you know I will say that um financially you know I will say that um financially you know so different from you. I was the so different from you. I was the so different from you. I was the stay-at-home mom. So I taking care of stay-at-home mom. So I taking care of stay-at-home mom. So I taking care of the kid was easy for me. No brainer. the kid was easy for me. No brainer. the kid was easy for me. No brainer. That wasn't hard. stepping out and all That wasn't hard. stepping out and all That wasn't hard. stepping out and all of a sudden having to be like, "How do I of a sudden having to be like, "How do I of a sudden having to be like, "How do I make money? How what am I going to do make money? How what am I going to do make money? How what am I going to do when my alimony and child support ends? when my alimony and child support ends? when my alimony and child support ends? Um, how do I pay the bills? How do I Um, how do I pay the bills? How do I Um, how do I pay the bills? How do I have a budget?" I mean, that is have a budget?" I mean, that is have a budget?" I mean, that is definitely not my strong suit. I'm definitely not my strong suit. I'm definitely not my strong suit. I'm learning, still learning about, you learning, still learning about, you learning, still learning about, you know, now running a business, having a know, now running a business, having a know, now running a business, having a budget. I mean, hard. So hard. Um, so budget. I mean, hard. So hard. Um, so budget. I mean, hard. So hard. Um, so for me it was probably the confidence to for me it was probably the confidence to for me it was probably the confidence to just feel not insecure in how I move in just feel not insecure in how I move in just feel not insecure in how I move in the world. You know, dating again and the world. You know, dating again and the world. You know, dating again and what that looks like, you know, trying what that looks like, you know, trying what that looks like, you know, trying to think about moving on and not being to think about moving on and not being to think about moving on and not being scared of being alone. Um, you know, I scared of being alone. Um, you know, I scared of being alone. Um, you know, I think the the greatest gift my divorce think the the greatest gift my divorce think the the greatest gift my divorce has given me besides, you know, figuring has given me besides, you know, figuring has given me besides, you know, figuring that I can figuring out that I can take that I can figuring out that I can take that I can figuring out that I can take care of myself. I think as a woman we we care of myself. I think as a woman we we care of myself. I think as a woman we we rely on men and that's a normal thing to
39:00rely on men and that's a normal thing to rely on men and that's a normal thing to do. I I love that. I want to rely on a do. I I love that. I want to rely on a do. I I love that. I want to rely on a man. I want a very strong which is why man. I want a very strong which is why man. I want a very strong which is why what you guys are doing resonates for me what you guys are doing resonates for me what you guys are doing resonates for me so deeply because I want a masculine so deeply because I want a masculine so deeply because I want a masculine strong man. I have to be very masculine strong man. I have to be very masculine strong man. I have to be very masculine in my life because I have no choice. I'm in my life because I have no choice. I'm in my life because I have no choice. I'm a single mom. I have to earn money. That a single mom. I have to earn money. That a single mom. I have to earn money. That means I have to be strong. I have to go means I have to be strong. I have to go means I have to be strong. I have to go out there and take over and make out there and take over and make out there and take over and make decisions and push. And I want to be in decisions and push. And I want to be in decisions and push. And I want to be in my feminine so desperately. Um but I my feminine so desperately. Um but I my feminine so desperately. Um but I also want to be respected and I also also want to be respected and I also also want to be respected and I also wanted to be you know to be treated wanted to be you know to be treated wanted to be you know to be treated well. Um so that's really really well. Um so that's really really well. Um so that's really really difficult and the the the insecurities difficult and the the the insecurities difficult and the the the insecurities around being alone and not having around being alone and not having around being alone and not having someone as your partner or your someone as your partner or your someone as your partner or your caregiver um was really really hard for caregiver um was really really hard for caregiver um was really really hard for me. But it was a gift because I you know me. But it was a gift because I you know me. But it was a gift because I you know I I met someone right after my divorce I I met someone right after my divorce I I met someone right after my divorce um not intentionally wasn't looking for um not intentionally wasn't looking for um not intentionally wasn't looking for it. It happened. We dated for 18 months. it. It happened. We dated for 18 months. it. It happened. We dated for 18 months. COVID hit and that relationship ended. COVID hit and that relationship ended. COVID hit and that relationship ended. um was a very very tough time being
40:00um was a very very tough time being um was a very very tough time being alone during COVID. Um but I bought my alone during COVID. Um but I bought my alone during COVID. Um but I bought my home in that time that was enabled me to home in that time that was enabled me to home in that time that was enabled me to sell it and start my business. Um I took sell it and start my business. Um I took sell it and start my business. Um I took intentional time to be alone and really intentional time to be alone and really intentional time to be alone and really just focus on myself and my healing and just focus on myself and my healing and just focus on myself and my healing and stop distracting. I think this this stop distracting. I think this this stop distracting. I think this this world of distractions, whether it's world of distractions, whether it's world of distractions, whether it's dating apps, alcohol, drugs, um you dating apps, alcohol, drugs, um you dating apps, alcohol, drugs, um you know, you name it, we can find know, you name it, we can find know, you name it, we can find distractions for everything. And I distractions for everything. And I distractions for everything. And I intentionally took a year to not date intentionally took a year to not date intentionally took a year to not date and just be celibate. I didn't have sex. and just be celibate. I didn't have sex. and just be celibate. I didn't have sex. I didn't date. I didn't go on dating I didn't date. I didn't go on dating I didn't date. I didn't go on dating apps. Um I bought a home. I renovated a apps. Um I bought a home. I renovated a apps. Um I bought a home. I renovated a home. I focused on my healing myself, my home. I focused on my healing myself, my home. I focused on my healing myself, my kid. Um the greatest gift because now I kid. Um the greatest gift because now I kid. Um the greatest gift because now I see that I am actually a whole person see that I am actually a whole person see that I am actually a whole person and that we all have things to work on. and that we all have things to work on. and that we all have things to work on. So nobody's perfect. um relationship So nobody's perfect. um relationship So nobody's perfect. um relationship brings healing to you because there's a brings healing to you because there's a brings healing to you because there's a mirror that comes in and you get to see mirror that comes in and you get to see mirror that comes in and you get to see that and really understand, you know, that and really understand, you know, that and really understand, you know, your insecurities and what maybe you're
41:00your insecurities and what maybe you're your insecurities and what maybe you're not good at doing. Maybe you're not good not good at doing. Maybe you're not good not good at doing. Maybe you're not good at communication. Um so it's been a gift at communication. Um so it's been a gift at communication. Um so it's been a gift that I know that I am okay on my own. I that I know that I am okay on my own. I that I know that I am okay on my own. I love my life, my community means love my life, my community means love my life, my community means everything to me. My business community, everything to me. My business community, everything to me. My business community, but my friendships, I don't know what I but my friendships, I don't know what I but my friendships, I don't know what I would have done. I don't have any family would have done. I don't have any family would have done. I don't have any family locally. My family live in other parts locally. My family live in other parts locally. My family live in other parts of the country. Um, and without my of the country. Um, and without my of the country. Um, and without my community, which is, you know, my community, which is, you know, my community, which is, you know, my closest friends, I wouldn't I don't know closest friends, I wouldn't I don't know closest friends, I wouldn't I don't know how I would have gotten through the last how I would have gotten through the last how I would have gotten through the last seven years. But I realize how resilient seven years. But I realize how resilient seven years. But I realize how resilient I am and how strong I am. And I know I am and how strong I am. And I know I am and how strong I am. And I know that there's a person out there for me that there's a person out there for me that there's a person out there for me um that is going to meet me um and be um that is going to meet me um and be um that is going to meet me um and be interested in growth and doing the hard interested in growth and doing the hard interested in growth and doing the hard things in relationship and committing in things in relationship and committing in things in relationship and committing in that way so that we can both thrive um that way so that we can both thrive um that way so that we can both thrive um as a unit. and I'm incredibly excited as a unit. and I'm incredibly excited as a unit. and I'm incredibly excited about that. But I'm so excited about my about that. But I'm so excited about my about that. But I'm so excited about my life right now as a single mom and a life right now as a single mom and a life right now as a single mom and a business owner. Um I I'm I feel so business owner. Um I I'm I feel so business owner. Um I I'm I feel so expansive. I think that's the word that
42:00expansive. I think that's the word that expansive. I think that's the word that comes to mind. I am so excited about comes to mind. I am so excited about comes to mind. I am so excited about this business and doing things like this this business and doing things like this this business and doing things like this with you just makes me so happy. like with you just makes me so happy. like with you just makes me so happy. like waking up this morning and being like, I waking up this morning and being like, I waking up this morning and being like, I get to go and talk about what I love and get to go and talk about what I love and get to go and talk about what I love and my life in the hopes that it can inspire my life in the hopes that it can inspire my life in the hopes that it can inspire someone else uh to do something someone else uh to do something someone else uh to do something difficult and hard difficult and hard difficult and hard >> um and that you are strong and you do >> um and that you are strong and you do >> um and that you are strong and you do have it in you, but you have to find have it in you, but you have to find have it in you, but you have to find that community base to help support you. that community base to help support you. that community base to help support you. And I know you can relate to that with And I know you can relate to that with And I know you can relate to that with what you've been through. So, what you've been through. So, what you've been through. So, >> so yeah, divorce sucks. It does. Yeah, >> so yeah, divorce sucks. It does. Yeah, >> so yeah, divorce sucks. It does. Yeah, absolutely. But but I think it's it's absolutely. But but I think it's it's absolutely. But but I think it's it's it's brighter on the other side. It is, it's brighter on the other side. It is, it's brighter on the other side. It is, you know, as you're going through it, you know, as you're going through it, you know, as you're going through it, it's like anything in life, it it almost it's like anything in life, it it almost it's like anything in life, it it almost seems like it's the worst possible seems like it's the worst possible seems like it's the worst possible thing, thing, thing, >> but I I do believe that it's in >> but I I do believe that it's in >> but I I do believe that it's in preparation for for the next opportunity preparation for for the next opportunity preparation for for the next opportunity that's coming. So, that business that's coming. So, that business that's coming. So, that business failure, that relationship that ended failure, that relationship that ended failure, that relationship that ended >> u that person that you know passed away >> u that person that you know passed away >> u that person that you know passed away in your life, there's always more in your life, there's always more in your life, there's always more purpose to it if you choose that. You purpose to it if you choose that. You purpose to it if you choose that. You know what I mean? And you've done a know what I mean? And you've done a know what I mean? And you've done a tremendous job at rebuilding and tremendous job at rebuilding and tremendous job at rebuilding and >> Yeah. Not with not with you know I had
43:00>> Yeah. Not with not with you know I had >> Yeah. Not with not with you know I had my fair share of difficult days on the my fair share of difficult days on the my fair share of difficult days on the sofa not wanting to get up like how am I sofa not wanting to get up like how am I sofa not wanting to get up like how am I going to do this you know you have to going to do this you know you have to going to do this you know you have to call that friend and be like can you call that friend and be like can you call that friend and be like can you please come and please come and please come and >> talk to me like I'm not feeling like >> talk to me like I'm not feeling like >> talk to me like I'm not feeling like getting out the door today like what do getting out the door today like what do getting out the door today like what do I do with this I do with this I do with this >> and that's you know >> and that's you know >> and that's you know >> you either choose to you know I have a >> you either choose to you know I have a >> you either choose to you know I have a child and I think like we were he's um child and I think like we were he's um child and I think like we were he's um 15 almost 16 okay 15 almost 16 okay 15 almost 16 okay >> and you know I think that children one >> and you know I think that children one >> and you know I think that children one >> children really like keep you focused on >> children really like keep you focused on >> children really like keep you focused on what's important. Like I can't sit on what's important. Like I can't sit on what's important. Like I can't sit on the sofa and fall into depression the sofa and fall into depression the sofa and fall into depression because I have a child to take care of because I have a child to take care of because I have a child to take care of and that kept me going. That kept me and that kept me going. That kept me and that kept me going. That kept me like I have to figure this out. But like I have to figure this out. But like I have to figure this out. But there's many days that you don't want to there's many days that you don't want to there's many days that you don't want to figure it out, you know. So yeah, but I figure it out, you know. So yeah, but I figure it out, you know. So yeah, but I am a much happier person. I am a much happier person. I am a much happier person. I >> every day wake up, you know, I used to >> every day wake up, you know, I used to >> every day wake up, you know, I used to cry in the shower most days. Um was not cry in the shower most days. Um was not cry in the shower most days. Um was not a good existence for a really long time. a good existence for a really long time. a good existence for a really long time. And now, you know, I love my showers, And now, you know, I love my showers, And now, you know, I love my showers, which is why I don't take cold showers which is why I don't take cold showers which is why I don't take cold showers because I'm like, I want the hot hot because I'm like, I want the hot hot because I'm like, I want the hot hot shower in there and I go put myself in shower in there and I go put myself in shower in there and I go put myself in the cold punch tub. But but yeah,
44:00the cold punch tub. But but yeah, the cold punch tub. But but yeah, >> you know, it's crazy. You said the word >> you know, it's crazy. You said the word >> you know, it's crazy. You said the word expansive. And every year I choose a expansive. And every year I choose a expansive. And every year I choose a word of the year. word of the year. word of the year. >> Um it's just a just a one quick hitter >> Um it's just a just a one quick hitter >> Um it's just a just a one quick hitter that I can like focus on for the year. that I can like focus on for the year. that I can like focus on for the year. And my word was expand. And my word was expand. And my word was expand. >> No, really. >> No, really. >> No, really. >> Yeah. Yeah. For for 2025. Okay. Um, and >> Yeah. Yeah. For for 2025. Okay. Um, and >> Yeah. Yeah. For for 2025. Okay. Um, and and that's ironic because, you know, and that's ironic because, you know, and that's ironic because, you know, it's a word that I actually look at it's a word that I actually look at it's a word that I actually look at every day because I have like a mission every day because I have like a mission every day because I have like a mission statement and, uh, for 2025, it's to statement and, uh, for 2025, it's to statement and, uh, for 2025, it's to expand my impact as a man of faith, expand my impact as a man of faith, expand my impact as a man of faith, father, businessman, partner. Uh, but father, businessman, partner. Uh, but father, businessman, partner. Uh, but the word expand is the the word expand is the the word expand is the >> is in capital, so I see it every day. >> is in capital, so I see it every day. >> is in capital, so I see it every day. It's attached to my quit drinking app. It's attached to my quit drinking app. It's attached to my quit drinking app. Okay. Okay. Okay. >> Um, when I stopped drinking about two >> Um, when I stopped drinking about two >> Um, when I stopped drinking about two years ago, so I I look at it every day. years ago, so I I look at it every day. years ago, so I I look at it every day. But when you said expansive, you you But when you said expansive, you you But when you said expansive, you you also said like, I think that's the word. also said like, I think that's the word. also said like, I think that's the word. >> And I was like, oh, okay. Okay. A lot of >> And I was like, oh, okay. Okay. A lot of >> And I was like, oh, okay. Okay. A lot of a lot of alignment. a lot of alignment. a lot of alignment. >> I mean, I just think if you Oh my gosh, >> I mean, I just think if you Oh my gosh, >> I mean, I just think if you Oh my gosh, how lucky are we that we've been able to how lucky are we that we've been able to how lucky are we that we've been able to align align align >> with our purpose, our gifts, >> with our purpose, our gifts, >> with our purpose, our gifts, >> um, and can feel that word really >> um, and can feel that word really
45:00>> um, and can feel that word really deeply, like that sense of expansion is deeply, like that sense of expansion is deeply, like that sense of expansion is and being able to do things like this. and being able to do things like this. and being able to do things like this. It's just it's it's I feel elated. It's just it's it's I feel elated. It's just it's it's I feel elated. >> I I agree 100%. And it's so funny you >> I I agree 100%. And it's so funny you >> I I agree 100%. And it's so funny you say that word, elated. You'll laugh at say that word, elated. You'll laugh at say that word, elated. You'll laugh at this. [laughter] My my one of my good this. [laughter] My my one of my good this. [laughter] My my one of my good friends said something like, "I'm I'm friends said something like, "I'm I'm friends said something like, "I'm I'm elated. I'm so elated for you." And I elated. I'm so elated for you." And I elated. I'm so elated for you." And I was like, "What the heck is that word?" was like, "What the heck is that word?" was like, "What the heck is that word?" And he said, "It means happy." So, I And he said, "It means happy." So, I And he said, "It means happy." So, I actually like videoed myself talking to actually like videoed myself talking to actually like videoed myself talking to another person and said, "I'm so elated another person and said, "I'm so elated another person and said, "I'm so elated to see you." [laughter] to see you." [laughter] to see you." [laughter] And I sent him the video. Hilarious. And I sent him the video. Hilarious. And I sent him the video. Hilarious. >> But it's I I just went through that with >> But it's I I just went through that with >> But it's I I just went through that with him. So, that's funny. Um, what I just him. So, that's funny. Um, what I just him. So, that's funny. Um, what I just wanted to ask you, wanted to ask you, wanted to ask you, I guess, take me at at the the lowest I guess, take me at at the the lowest I guess, take me at at the the lowest moment though because there's a lot of moment though because there's a lot of moment though because there's a lot of people Oh, that's where I was going. A people Oh, that's where I was going. A people Oh, that's where I was going. A lot of people, they just struggle to see lot of people, they just struggle to see lot of people, they just struggle to see the other side of things, right? They're the other side of things, right? They're the other side of things, right? They're in that low moment. in that low moment. in that low moment. >> And I am now finding because of what you >> And I am now finding because of what you >> And I am now finding because of what you and this Okay, it's all coming back now. and this Okay, it's all coming back now. and this Okay, it's all coming back now. What you're saying resonates so deeply What you're saying resonates so deeply What you're saying resonates so deeply with me because you're so passionate
46:00with me because you're so passionate with me because you're so passionate about what you do. And I know way too about what you do. And I know way too about what you do. And I know way too many people that are going to jobs and many people that are going to jobs and many people that are going to jobs and not really enjoying it. Now, I get it. not really enjoying it. Now, I get it. not really enjoying it. Now, I get it. We have families. You have to provide. We have families. You have to provide. We have families. You have to provide. You have to do these things. But it's it You have to do these things. But it's it You have to do these things. But it's it wasn't until I started this podcast, I wasn't until I started this podcast, I wasn't until I started this podcast, I started Action Cultivates Excellence, started Action Cultivates Excellence, started Action Cultivates Excellence, you know, with Sean um to where like I you know, with Sean um to where like I you know, with Sean um to where like I really started to feel this passion really started to feel this passion really started to feel this passion coming in. And it really opened up a new coming in. And it really opened up a new coming in. And it really opened up a new door for me of of understanding that door for me of of understanding that door for me of of understanding that listen, I love my full-time job, right? listen, I love my full-time job, right? listen, I love my full-time job, right? It pays my bills. It sets me up for for It pays my bills. It sets me up for for It pays my bills. It sets me up for for the future success. And I love the the future success. And I love the the future success. And I love the community that I'm in for sure, but like community that I'm in for sure, but like community that I'm in for sure, but like my real passion is is this type of my real passion is is this type of my real passion is is this type of stuff. And I just I I don't know how to stuff. And I just I I don't know how to stuff. And I just I I don't know how to encourage people in those low moments to encourage people in those low moments to encourage people in those low moments to step out and do the thing that you love step out and do the thing that you love step out and do the thing that you love because so many people will say ah well because so many people will say ah well because so many people will say ah well I have my bills, I have my family, this I have my bills, I have my family, this I have my bills, I have my family, this that and maybe it is something of like that and maybe it is something of like that and maybe it is something of like look if you like to sauna like maybe you look if you like to sauna like maybe you look if you like to sauna like maybe you start a little side hustle with a sauna start a little side hustle with a sauna start a little side hustle with a sauna tent like it started at that level for tent like it started at that level for tent like it started at that level for you. So, I'm just curious, what would you. So, I'm just curious, what would you. So, I'm just curious, what would you tell somebody who's in that in that you tell somebody who's in that in that you tell somebody who's in that in that low? low? low? >> I mean, it's funny. I like I don't know
47:00>> I mean, it's funny. I like I don't know >> I mean, it's funny. I like I don't know if you ever listen to Gary Vee at all. if you ever listen to Gary Vee at all. if you ever listen to Gary Vee at all. Um, I I love him. He's so like he's just Um, I I love him. He's so like he's just Um, I I love him. He's so like he's just such a straight talker and it really is such a straight talker and it really is such a straight talker and it really is like he talks a lot about side hustles, like he talks a lot about side hustles, like he talks a lot about side hustles, a lot about like I think I said at the a lot about like I think I said at the a lot about like I think I said at the beginning of the of the interview like beginning of the of the interview like beginning of the of the interview like um throwing spaghetti at the wall, you um throwing spaghetti at the wall, you um throwing spaghetti at the wall, you know, is is just Yeah. doing something know, is is just Yeah. doing something know, is is just Yeah. doing something on the side. I mean, when I was an on the side. I mean, when I was an on the side. I mean, when I was an interior designer living in Asia, I interior designer living in Asia, I interior designer living in Asia, I would go home and all I would do is talk would go home and all I would do is talk would go home and all I would do is talk about health and wellness. I already about health and wellness. I already about health and wellness. I already knew that I wanted to be a health coach. knew that I wanted to be a health coach. knew that I wanted to be a health coach. I identified the school. The school was I identified the school. The school was I identified the school. The school was in in uh in person at the time. Now, in in uh in person at the time. Now, in in uh in person at the time. Now, it's an online platform. Um but I would it's an online platform. Um but I would it's an online platform. Um but I would go home and talk about with my friends go home and talk about with my friends go home and talk about with my friends about what I was eating and what about what I was eating and what about what I was eating and what skincare I was using. And I would come skincare I was using. And I would come skincare I was using. And I would come back to the US and I would go to Whole back to the US and I would go to Whole back to the US and I would go to Whole Foods and I'd fill up my suitcase full Foods and I'd fill up my suitcase full Foods and I'd fill up my suitcase full of supplements and all these great, you of supplements and all these great, you of supplements and all these great, you know, foods and come back and be like, know, foods and come back and be like, know, foods and come back and be like, "Look guys, I got this and I got that "Look guys, I got this and I got that "Look guys, I got this and I got that and I found this great company and this and I found this great company and this and I found this great company and this is why I love them." And I just, so I is why I love them." And I just, so I is why I love them." And I just, so I was already doing it as a passion
48:00was already doing it as a passion was already doing it as a passion >> without even really realizing that I was >> without even really realizing that I was >> without even really realizing that I was doing it. I was coaching people. I was doing it. I was coaching people. I was doing it. I was coaching people. I was sharing what I was doing. So I think sharing what I was doing. So I think sharing what I was doing. So I think maybe once you identify that trying to maybe once you identify that trying to maybe once you identify that trying to do something small, get involved in do something small, get involved in do something small, get involved in something in your free time. I mean, you something in your free time. I mean, you something in your free time. I mean, you know, we all have free time and it's know, we all have free time and it's know, we all have free time and it's just about making the choice. just about making the choice. just about making the choice. >> I read something the other day. I think >> I read something the other day. I think >> I read something the other day. I think I posted on Instagram on my stories I posted on Instagram on my stories I posted on Instagram on my stories about doing hard things, but um about about doing hard things, but um about about doing hard things, but um about discipline and about how discipline is discipline and about how discipline is discipline and about how discipline is really hard and we really can't get really hard and we really can't get really hard and we really can't get anywhere unless you have the discipline. anywhere unless you have the discipline. anywhere unless you have the discipline. Whether that's working out, whether Whether that's working out, whether Whether that's working out, whether that's starting a business, you know, that's starting a business, you know, that's starting a business, you know, there's many mornings. I have two um I'm there's many mornings. I have two um I'm there's many mornings. I have two um I'm going to be doing uh residencies at going to be doing uh residencies at going to be doing uh residencies at these two locations coming very soon. these two locations coming very soon. these two locations coming very soon. >> Very cool. >> Very cool. >> Very cool. >> And I have to be there at 5:30 in the >> And I have to be there at 5:30 in the >> And I have to be there at 5:30 in the morning. Like, do you think I want to morning. Like, do you think I want to morning. Like, do you think I want to get up in the middle of I have to be get up in the middle of I have to be get up in the middle of I have to be there at 5:30. That means I have to wake there at 5:30. That means I have to wake there at 5:30. That means I have to wake up probably at 4:30. That means the up probably at 4:30. That means the up probably at 4:30. That means the sauna trailer and everything is packed sauna trailer and everything is packed sauna trailer and everything is packed the day before my my everything's hooked
49:00the day before my my everything's hooked the day before my my everything's hooked up so I'm not out there in the dark up so I'm not out there in the dark up so I'm not out there in the dark hooking the trailer up to my truck. Um, hooking the trailer up to my truck. Um, hooking the trailer up to my truck. Um, you know, I've had to learn how to drive you know, I've had to learn how to drive you know, I've had to learn how to drive a trailer. But getting up in the morning a trailer. But getting up in the morning a trailer. But getting up in the morning and and and >> in the middle of the night in the dark, >> in the middle of the night in the dark, >> in the middle of the night in the dark, in the cold, getting dressed, my son, in the cold, getting dressed, my son, in the cold, getting dressed, my son, I've told him like Wednesday mornings I've told him like Wednesday mornings I've told him like Wednesday mornings you're going to have to get yourself up you're going to have to get yourself up you're going to have to get yourself up for school now and get yourself to for school now and get yourself to for school now and get yourself to school. Like that's a big shift. I've school. Like that's a big shift. I've school. Like that's a big shift. I've always been there with him. I've always always been there with him. I've always always been there with him. I've always done breakfast. I've always like even if done breakfast. I've always like even if done breakfast. I've always like even if he doesn't eat in the mornings, I'm he doesn't eat in the mornings, I'm he doesn't eat in the mornings, I'm there to wake him up. I'm there to hang there to wake him up. I'm there to hang there to wake him up. I'm there to hang out with him before he goes to school. out with him before he goes to school. out with him before he goes to school. Even if it's 20 or 30 minutes, you know, Even if it's 20 or 30 minutes, you know, Even if it's 20 or 30 minutes, you know, that's hard. I don't want to do that. that's hard. I don't want to do that. that's hard. I don't want to do that. But you do it. And I tell myself, I But you do it. And I tell myself, I But you do it. And I tell myself, I coach myself. It's like, this sucks. Do coach myself. It's like, this sucks. Do coach myself. It's like, this sucks. Do I really want to agree to these two I really want to agree to these two I really want to agree to these two residencies where I have to be there at residencies where I have to be there at residencies where I have to be there at 5:30 in the morning to set up for a 7:30 5:30 in the morning to set up for a 7:30 5:30 in the morning to set up for a 7:30 a.m. start to heat that sauna in the a.m. start to heat that sauna in the a.m. start to heat that sauna in the middle of winter? I'm thinking about And middle of winter? I'm thinking about And middle of winter? I'm thinking about And then I'm like, "Yes, Ginger. You're then I'm like, "Yes, Ginger. You're then I'm like, "Yes, Ginger. You're gonna go and you're gonna get all the gonna go and you're gonna get all the gonna go and you're gonna get all the right clothing. You're gonna make sure right clothing. You're gonna make sure right clothing. You're gonna make sure that your hat's warm enough, that you've that your hat's warm enough, that you've that your hat's warm enough, that you've got the right coat, the right boots. got the right coat, the right boots. got the right coat, the right boots. >> Um, you know, luckily I get to step
50:00>> Um, you know, luckily I get to step >> Um, you know, luckily I get to step inside the sauna here and inside the sauna here and inside the sauna here and [clears throat] there and warm up. But [clears throat] there and warm up. But [clears throat] there and warm up. But I'm thinking about those things and and I'm thinking about those things and and I'm thinking about those things and and yes, you are going to do it and it's yes, you are going to do it and it's yes, you are going to do it and it's going to be really hard. But that is going to be really hard. But that is going to be really hard. But that is what is going to get you to the next what is going to get you to the next what is going to get you to the next level is because you're going to choose level is because you're going to choose level is because you're going to choose to have that discipline to be consistent to have that discipline to be consistent to have that discipline to be consistent to show up to show people that that's to show up to show people that that's to show up to show people that that's how much you care about this, that how much you care about this, that how much you care about this, that that's how much you want this to that's how much you want this to that's how much you want this to succeed, that you want to share that succeed, that you want to share that succeed, that you want to share that with their community. Um, so I guess with their community. Um, so I guess with their community. Um, so I guess yeah, I mean discipline, yeah, I mean discipline, yeah, I mean discipline, identifying what you love to do, trying identifying what you love to do, trying identifying what you love to do, trying it on the side as a side hustle or just it on the side as a side hustle or just it on the side as a side hustle or just doing it in your free time, making that doing it in your free time, making that doing it in your free time, making that something that you're doing, even if something that you're doing, even if something that you're doing, even if it's something social. it's something social. it's something social. >> Um, and then having the discipline to >> Um, and then having the discipline to >> Um, and then having the discipline to stick with it. Um, because you do see stick with it. Um, because you do see stick with it. Um, because you do see the results. If you have that discipline the results. If you have that discipline the results. If you have that discipline and you start seeing the results, you're and you start seeing the results, you're and you start seeing the results, you're like, "Holy [ __ ] like I'm being like, "Holy [ __ ] like I'm being like, "Holy [ __ ] like I'm being consistent and now I'm getting consistent and now I'm getting consistent and now I'm getting rewarded." Feel there's nothing better rewarded." Feel there's nothing better rewarded." Feel there's nothing better in the world than sticking with that. in the world than sticking with that. in the world than sticking with that. You know, it's so funny you answered my You know, it's so funny you answered my You know, it's so funny you answered my next question, which is um you know, you next question, which is um you know, you next question, which is um you know, you help people face extremes when it comes help people face extremes when it comes help people face extremes when it comes to like, you know, hot and cold, to like, you know, hot and cold, to like, you know, hot and cold, comfort, discomfort, the things you were
51:00comfort, discomfort, the things you were comfort, discomfort, the things you were talking about. And what parallels do you talking about. And what parallels do you talking about. And what parallels do you see between that and real life? And you see between that and real life? And you see between that and real life? And you just literally spoke about all of that, just literally spoke about all of that, just literally spoke about all of that, which is amazing. No, it's great. Um, so which is amazing. No, it's great. Um, so which is amazing. No, it's great. Um, so in your sessions now, you're guiding in your sessions now, you're guiding in your sessions now, you're guiding through, you know, what you call comfort through, you know, what you call comfort through, you know, what you call comfort in the sauna, discomfort in the cold in the sauna, discomfort in the cold in the sauna, discomfort in the cold plunge. What have you learned? I guess plunge. What have you learned? I guess plunge. What have you learned? I guess it's a deep question about the the human it's a deep question about the the human it's a deep question about the the human spirit like watching others go through spirit like watching others go through spirit like watching others go through that process of like that high of like that process of like that high of like that process of like that high of like when you walk into the sauna you're like when you walk into the sauna you're like when you walk into the sauna you're like >> but then like maybe the fear of some >> but then like maybe the fear of some >> but then like maybe the fear of some that must come over them when they're that must come over them when they're that must come over them when they're stepping into the coal plunge for the stepping into the coal plunge for the stepping into the coal plunge for the first time. first time. first time. >> Oh my gosh it's the best part. uh when >> Oh my gosh it's the best part. uh when >> Oh my gosh it's the best part. uh when people are like they show up. I had you people are like they show up. I had you people are like they show up. I had you know I have home sessions on Mondays and know I have home sessions on Mondays and know I have home sessions on Mondays and two people came on Monday and were like two people came on Monday and were like two people came on Monday and were like oh I'm really like scared about the cold oh I'm really like scared about the cold oh I'm really like scared about the cold plunge and I'm I'm just I I sort of plunge and I'm I'm just I I sort of plunge and I'm I'm just I I sort of laugh when I talk to them now. It's like laugh when I talk to them now. It's like laugh when I talk to them now. It's like I know it is scary. It's like a you know I know it is scary. It's like a you know I know it is scary. It's like a you know it's a physiological response. Your body it's a physiological response. Your body it's a physiological response. Your body is scared. Your body doesn't want to be is scared. Your body doesn't want to be is scared. Your body doesn't want to be in cold water because it thinks that
52:00in cold water because it thinks that in cold water because it thinks that you're in danger. So that's that's what you're in danger. So that's that's what you're in danger. So that's that's what the stress up to stress down ideology the stress up to stress down ideology the stress up to stress down ideology ideology is is that you are stressing ideology is is that you are stressing ideology is is that you are stressing your body in both of these modalities. your body in both of these modalities. your body in both of these modalities. But then you get out and you're safe and But then you get out and you're safe and But then you get out and you're safe and your body has kicked in all of those your body has kicked in all of those your body has kicked in all of those that immune response. So that's why you that immune response. So that's why you that immune response. So that's why you benefit from it. That's why it helps benefit from it. That's why it helps benefit from it. That's why it helps with inflammation. That's why it helps with inflammation. That's why it helps with inflammation. That's why it helps with longevity is because you are with longevity is because you are with longevity is because you are creating that immune response. But yes, creating that immune response. But yes, creating that immune response. But yes, physiologically it's scary. Mentally physiologically it's scary. Mentally physiologically it's scary. Mentally it's scary. How kind of long can I stay it's scary. How kind of long can I stay it's scary. How kind of long can I stay in the sauna? Am I going to be in the sauna? Am I going to be in the sauna? Am I going to be embarrassed if I have to get out? You embarrassed if I have to get out? You embarrassed if I have to get out? You know, am I going to have the gasp reflex know, am I going to have the gasp reflex know, am I going to have the gasp reflex when I get in the water and I look when I get in the water and I look when I get in the water and I look funny, you know, or I'm not as good as funny, you know, or I'm not as good as funny, you know, or I'm not as good as someone else? There's So, we talk about someone else? There's So, we talk about someone else? There's So, we talk about all of that. We talk about going inward. all of that. We talk about going inward. all of that. We talk about going inward. We talk about closing your eyes and not We talk about closing your eyes and not We talk about closing your eyes and not worrying about what else is going um on worrying about what else is going um on worrying about what else is going um on around you. But it is amazing to see around you. But it is amazing to see around you. But it is amazing to see when people and I always start with when people and I always start with when people and I always start with sauna because I just feel like that's sauna because I just feel like that's sauna because I just feel like that's the easier barrier to entry. You get in the easier barrier to entry. You get in the easier barrier to entry. You get in there and you're like, "Oh, this feels there and you're like, "Oh, this feels there and you're like, "Oh, this feels amazing and I feel I feel really good." amazing and I feel I feel really good." amazing and I feel I feel really good." And then it gets a little hard like at And then it gets a little hard like at And then it gets a little hard like at around minute 8 um you know and you got
53:00around minute 8 um you know and you got around minute 8 um you know and you got to stick through it. And I say to people to stick through it. And I say to people to stick through it. And I say to people you know as long as you don't feel you know as long as you don't feel you know as long as you don't feel nauseated or you're going to pass out nauseated or you're going to pass out nauseated or you're going to pass out like just um you know give yourself like just um you know give yourself like just um you know give yourself another 30 seconds 60 seconds kind of another 30 seconds 60 seconds kind of another 30 seconds 60 seconds kind of thing. But then they get out and they're thing. But then they get out and they're thing. But then they get out and they're like okay I'm ready. I'm hot. I'm ready like okay I'm ready. I'm hot. I'm ready like okay I'm ready. I'm hot. I'm ready to get in that cold punch tub. then they to get in that cold punch tub. then they to get in that cold punch tub. then they get in there and I think the the get in there and I think the the get in there and I think the the greatest the biggest um benefit as a greatest the biggest um benefit as a greatest the biggest um benefit as a coach when you're with those people is coach when you're with those people is coach when you're with those people is coaching them holding space for them to coaching them holding space for them to coaching them holding space for them to do something really hard and you're do something really hard and you're do something really hard and you're locking in on their eyes, coaching them locking in on their eyes, coaching them locking in on their eyes, coaching them through breath work how to breathe when through breath work how to breathe when through breath work how to breathe when you're to signal your central nervous you're to signal your central nervous you're to signal your central nervous system to be calm and then they do that system to be calm and then they do that system to be calm and then they do that and they get out and yeah they're and they get out and yeah they're and they get out and yeah they're shivering or they couldn't catch their shivering or they couldn't catch their shivering or they couldn't catch their breath, you know, or whatever, But they breath, you know, or whatever, But they breath, you know, or whatever, But they get out. I have not had it happen. get out. I have not had it happen. get out. I have not had it happen. That's not true. One person in all these That's not true. One person in all these That's not true. One person in all these years got out and was like, years got out and was like, years got out and was like, >> "I can't do that and that was horrible." >> "I can't do that and that was horrible." >> "I can't do that and that was horrible." But generally 99.9% of time they get out But generally 99.9% of time they get out But generally 99.9% of time they get out and they're like, "Oh my gosh, I feel
54:00and they're like, "Oh my gosh, I feel and they're like, "Oh my gosh, I feel amazing. I can't believe I did that. It amazing. I can't believe I did that. It amazing. I can't believe I did that. It was way easier than I thought it was was way easier than I thought it was was way easier than I thought it was going to be." And the transition of them going to be." And the transition of them going to be." And the transition of them seeing that they can do something hard, seeing that they can do something hard, seeing that they can do something hard, that they can put themselves into that they can put themselves into that they can put themselves into something physically hard and get out of something physically hard and get out of something physically hard and get out of that and feel good about it is there's that and feel good about it is there's that and feel good about it is there's nothing like it. I mean, and they leave nothing like it. I mean, and they leave nothing like it. I mean, and they leave every time. Oh my god, this was the best every time. Oh my god, this was the best every time. Oh my god, this was the best thing I ever did. I can't wait to do it thing I ever did. I can't wait to do it thing I ever did. I can't wait to do it again. I was really scared. I was really again. I was really scared. I was really again. I was really scared. I was really nervous. I got this benefit and that nervous. I got this benefit and that nervous. I got this benefit and that benefit and and I met these cool people benefit and and I met these cool people benefit and and I met these cool people and I took space time for myself and got and I took space time for myself and got and I took space time for myself and got out of my comfort zone and now I feel so out of my comfort zone and now I feel so out of my comfort zone and now I feel so focused. And then I they come a second focused. And then I they come a second focused. And then I they come a second time and they say, "Ginger, my day after time and they say, "Ginger, my day after time and they say, "Ginger, my day after I left was so much better. I was more I left was so much better. I was more I left was so much better. I was more focused. I was more present. I was I was focused. I was more present. I was I was focused. I was more present. I was I was calm. I And the the cold plunge makes calm. I And the the cold plunge makes calm. I And the the cold plunge makes you feel up but also calm. like it it you feel up but also calm. like it it you feel up but also calm. like it it calms your central nervous system even
55:00calms your central nervous system even calms your central nervous system even though you're getting really worked up though you're getting really worked up though you're getting really worked up when you get in there. when you get in there. when you get in there. >> I was gonna say it's probably you get a >> I was gonna say it's probably you get a >> I was gonna say it's probably you get a lot of anxiety. You absolutely do and lot of anxiety. You absolutely do and lot of anxiety. You absolutely do and then you through your breath and then you through your breath and then you through your breath and teaching yourself. It's it's really teaching yourself. It's it's really teaching yourself. It's it's really amazing. So I guess that's what I see. amazing. So I guess that's what I see. amazing. So I guess that's what I see. >> Yeah. No, no, it's awesome. Um there was >> Yeah. No, no, it's awesome. Um there was >> Yeah. No, no, it's awesome. Um there was a gentleman that came to the summit that a gentleman that came to the summit that a gentleman that came to the summit that pulled us aside. So right when we got to pulled us aside. So right when we got to pulled us aside. So right when we got to the summit, we did it the first time the summit, we did it the first time the summit, we did it the first time ever at this summit. Um we did a meet ever at this summit. Um we did a meet ever at this summit. Um we did a meet and greet and then boom, right into the and greet and then boom, right into the and greet and then boom, right into the cold plunge. like first thing. It's kind cold plunge. like first thing. It's kind cold plunge. like first thing. It's kind of like your initiation into the weekend of like your initiation into the weekend of like your initiation into the weekend type thing. And this one gentleman kind type thing. And this one gentleman kind type thing. And this one gentleman kind of pulled me aside saying like, "Ah, you of pulled me aside saying like, "Ah, you of pulled me aside saying like, "Ah, you know, my central nervous system is going know, my central nervous system is going know, my central nervous system is going to freak out this that the third." But to freak out this that the third." But to freak out this that the third." But at a very base level, right, like you at a very base level, right, like you at a very base level, right, like you were speaking from a scientific level, were speaking from a scientific level, were speaking from a scientific level, I'm going to speak at a very base level I'm going to speak at a very base level I'm going to speak at a very base level here. here. here. >> I said, if you can't even intentionally >> I said, if you can't even intentionally >> I said, if you can't even intentionally put yourself through this one minute of put yourself through this one minute of put yourself through this one minute of discomfort, discomfort, discomfort, >> why do you deserve to be here? Like why >> why do you deserve to be here? Like why >> why do you deserve to be here? Like why would you sign up for something like would you sign up for something like would you sign up for something like this if you can't even force yourself this if you can't even force yourself this if you can't even force yourself there? there? there? >> And I think a lot of people
56:00>> And I think a lot of people >> And I think a lot of people >> would benefit from just turning that >> would benefit from just turning that >> would benefit from just turning that shower cold. shower cold. shower cold. >> No, definitely. >> No, definitely. >> No, definitely. >> You know, and just finding ways to build >> You know, and just finding ways to build >> You know, and just finding ways to build that level of discipline in your life. that level of discipline in your life. that level of discipline in your life. Um, what would you tell the individual Um, what would you tell the individual Um, what would you tell the individual and maybe there's one of them in this and maybe there's one of them in this and maybe there's one of them in this room right here, I don't know, um, that room right here, I don't know, um, that room right here, I don't know, um, that has never coal plunged in their entire has never coal plunged in their entire has never coal plunged in their entire life, um, but claims and wants to build, life, um, but claims and wants to build, life, um, but claims and wants to build, and I'm messing with CV, but somebody and I'm messing with CV, but somebody and I'm messing with CV, but somebody who wants to build business, somebody who wants to build business, somebody who wants to build business, somebody who wants to have really good who wants to have really good who wants to have really good relationships, but has never taken a relationships, but has never taken a relationships, but has never taken a cold plunge of life like Shawn Dman. cold plunge of life like Shawn Dman. cold plunge of life like Shawn Dman. >> Yeah. Gosh, that's a that's a really >> Yeah. Gosh, that's a that's a really >> Yeah. Gosh, that's a that's a really good question. Um, [clears throat] good question. Um, [clears throat] good question. Um, [clears throat] I don't know. I think small steps. I I don't know. I think small steps. I I don't know. I think small steps. I think going back to like that sort of think going back to like that sort of think going back to like that sort of small step like you're talking about small step like you're talking about small step like you're talking about like I do know that you know there are like I do know that you know there are like I do know that you know there are individuals that have an incredible individuals that have an incredible individuals that have an incredible amount of trauma and they they could amount of trauma and they they could amount of trauma and they they could have an absolutely um phys physiological have an absolutely um phys physiological have an absolutely um phys physiological response to that cold plunge tub um that response to that cold plunge tub um that response to that cold plunge tub um that could be triggering for them. So we do could be triggering for them. So we do could be triggering for them. So we do have to like provide a safe space for have to like provide a safe space for have to like provide a safe space for that to be discussed. But I do think that to be discussed. But I do think that to be discussed. But I do think small things like turning the cold
57:00small things like turning the cold small things like turning the cold shower on and just giving it a try and shower on and just giving it a try and shower on and just giving it a try and seeing where that goes. Um, you know, seeing where that goes. Um, you know, seeing where that goes. Um, you know, step in the shower at least you can step step in the shower at least you can step step in the shower at least you can step away you know or the cold punch top even away you know or the cold punch top even away you know or the cold punch top even just I tell people just putting your just I tell people just putting your just I tell people just putting your feet in just stepping in is something feet in just stepping in is something feet in just stepping in is something even if you don't sit down you know I even if you don't sit down you know I even if you don't sit down you know I just think we we just we have such just think we we just we have such just think we we just we have such self-limiting beliefs about ourselves self-limiting beliefs about ourselves self-limiting beliefs about ourselves >> all of us even the ones that seem the >> all of us even the ones that seem the >> all of us even the ones that seem the most confident. Um, you know, it's a most confident. Um, you know, it's a most confident. Um, you know, it's a daily battle for me. Like, why do I daily battle for me. Like, why do I daily battle for me. Like, why do I deserve to be here? Why do I deserve to deserve to be here? Why do I deserve to deserve to be here? Why do I deserve to have this success? Why why is someone have this success? Why why is someone have this success? Why why is someone asking me to be on a podcast? Like, I asking me to be on a podcast? Like, I asking me to be on a podcast? Like, I know the reasons, but you still are know the reasons, but you still are know the reasons, but you still are like, "Oh my gosh, am I good enough to like, "Oh my gosh, am I good enough to like, "Oh my gosh, am I good enough to be doing this? Am I going to live up to be doing this? Am I going to live up to be doing this? Am I going to live up to I mean it is really amazing how we get I mean it is really amazing how we get I mean it is really amazing how we get in our own way in our own way in our own way >> and it is a constant challenge to have >> and it is a constant challenge to have >> and it is a constant challenge to have those and and that's where I think tools those and and that's where I think tools those and and that's where I think tools like for me the tools in my life which I like for me the tools in my life which I like for me the tools in my life which I talk about a lot which is community talk about a lot which is community talk about a lot which is community which is modalities like cold plunging
58:00which is modalities like cold plunging which is modalities like cold plunging exercise nature sauna working out um you exercise nature sauna working out um you exercise nature sauna working out um you know are so important to identify what know are so important to identify what know are so important to identify what your tools are so that you can lean on your tools are so that you can lean on your tools are so that you can lean on those when you are in difficult ult those when you are in difficult ult those when you are in difficult ult times and like what can I call in today? times and like what can I call in today? times and like what can I call in today? Like I often, you know, if I'm having a Like I often, you know, if I'm having a Like I often, you know, if I'm having a bad start to my day, my son's had is bad start to my day, my son's had is bad start to my day, my son's had is having a tough time, we're dealing with having a tough time, we're dealing with having a tough time, we're dealing with something emotional, I get myself something emotional, I get myself something emotional, I get myself outside, whether that's just standing outside, whether that's just standing outside, whether that's just standing outside, don't take my phone with me, outside, don't take my phone with me, outside, don't take my phone with me, put myself out there or go for a walk or put myself out there or go for a walk or put myself out there or go for a walk or ground, like literally take my socks and ground, like literally take my socks and ground, like literally take my socks and shoes off and stand in the grass. Um, shoes off and stand in the grass. Um, shoes off and stand in the grass. Um, you have to identify your tools. So, I you have to identify your tools. So, I you have to identify your tools. So, I guess I would just say, yeah, find guess I would just say, yeah, find guess I would just say, yeah, find figure out what your tools are and just figure out what your tools are and just figure out what your tools are and just try things in smaller doses. Like, you try things in smaller doses. Like, you try things in smaller doses. Like, you don't have to go all in. You don't have don't have to go all in. You don't have don't have to go all in. You don't have to even come and sign up for a contrast to even come and sign up for a contrast to even come and sign up for a contrast therapy session. Just start with your therapy session. Just start with your therapy session. Just start with your your shower like you're talking about. your shower like you're talking about. your shower like you're talking about. >> I love it. Um, talk about leadership a >> I love it. Um, talk about leadership a >> I love it. Um, talk about leadership a little bit. Right. So, you you've been little bit. Right. So, you you've been little bit. Right. So, you you've been able to now build this brand and able to now build this brand and able to now build this brand and leadership is is just very universal for
59:00leadership is is just very universal for leadership is is just very universal for life, right? whether you're a mother, a life, right? whether you're a mother, a life, right? whether you're a mother, a father, um cat owner, a dog owner, like father, um cat owner, a dog owner, like father, um cat owner, a dog owner, like you're a leader of your life in some you're a leader of your life in some you're a leader of your life in some capacity, but what have you specifically capacity, but what have you specifically capacity, but what have you specifically learned about leadership as a woman learned about leadership as a woman learned about leadership as a woman building something from scratch? building something from scratch? building something from scratch? >> Okay. Um yeah, I um I love thinking >> Okay. Um yeah, I um I love thinking >> Okay. Um yeah, I um I love thinking about myself as a leader. I really do. about myself as a leader. I really do. about myself as a leader. I really do. It it fills my cup so much when I have It it fills my cup so much when I have It it fills my cup so much when I have women reach out to me. I had a woman um women reach out to me. I had a woman um women reach out to me. I had a woman um slashfriend um don't know her all that slashfriend um don't know her all that slashfriend um don't know her all that well, but she messaged me yesterday and well, but she messaged me yesterday and well, but she messaged me yesterday and said I posted about her business and um said I posted about her business and um said I posted about her business and um because she had texted me and said like, because she had texted me and said like, because she had texted me and said like, "Hey, um this is what I'm doing. I'm "Hey, um this is what I'm doing. I'm "Hey, um this is what I'm doing. I'm offering for this season, you know, if offering for this season, you know, if offering for this season, you know, if you feel feel free to share." So then I you feel feel free to share." So then I you feel feel free to share." So then I shared on Instagram. And I think she was shared on Instagram. And I think she was shared on Instagram. And I think she was kind of shocked that I put it on my kind of shocked that I put it on my kind of shocked that I put it on my Instagram account. and she came back Instagram account. and she came back Instagram account. and she came back just like, "Oh my gosh, like I don't I just like, "Oh my gosh, like I don't I just like, "Oh my gosh, like I don't I didn't I wasn't expecting you to do didn't I wasn't expecting you to do didn't I wasn't expecting you to do that. I don't know if I'm ready. I don't that. I don't know if I'm ready. I don't that. I don't know if I'm ready. I don't know if I'm, you know, like I'm kind of
1:00know if I'm, you know, like I'm kind of know if I'm, you know, like I'm kind of in pilot mode." That's what she said. in pilot mode." That's what she said. in pilot mode." That's what she said. And um I thought to myself, this is so And um I thought to myself, this is so And um I thought to myself, this is so interesting that she used that word interesting that she used that word interesting that she used that word pilot mode or that phrase pilot mode pilot mode or that phrase pilot mode pilot mode or that phrase pilot mode because she had just texted me her menu because she had just texted me her menu because she had just texted me her menu for what she's offering for the holiday for what she's offering for the holiday for what she's offering for the holiday season. So I ran with it. I love her. I season. So I ran with it. I love her. I season. So I ran with it. I love her. I think she's got what she's doing is think she's got what she's doing is think she's got what she's doing is amazing. And she was it freaked her out. amazing. And she was it freaked her out. amazing. And she was it freaked her out. She got a little bit like, whoa, She got a little bit like, whoa, She got a little bit like, whoa, Ginger's now said this and people are Ginger's now said this and people are Ginger's now said this and people are going to sort of hold me accountable. going to sort of hold me accountable. going to sort of hold me accountable. And she came back to me and said, that And she came back to me and said, that And she came back to me and said, that was her knee-jerk response was to say, was her knee-jerk response was to say, was her knee-jerk response was to say, I'm not ready. But then the second I'm not ready. But then the second I'm not ready. But then the second response was, I am so overwhelmed with response was, I am so overwhelmed with response was, I am so overwhelmed with gratitude for you sharing about my gratitude for you sharing about my gratitude for you sharing about my brand. I always promote other people. brand. I always promote other people. brand. I always promote other people. She's such a um she lifts people up She's such a um she lifts people up She's such a um she lifts people up everywhere she goes. And she said, "I everywhere she goes. And she said, "I everywhere she goes. And she said, "I feel like I don't really get much back. feel like I don't really get much back. feel like I don't really get much back. I feel like a lot of people just take I feel like a lot of people just take I feel like a lot of people just take take and I support them, but they don't take and I support them, but they don't take and I support them, but they don't really support me." And I thought, and really support me." And I thought, and really support me." And I thought, and she said, "I'm Ginger. I'm and she used
1:01she said, "I'm Ginger. I'm and she used she said, "I'm Ginger. I'm and she used the term I'm almost on my knees in the term I'm almost on my knees in the term I'm almost on my knees in gratitude and um you know in in um I'm gratitude and um you know in in um I'm gratitude and um you know in in um I'm so feeling so emotionally overwhelmed so feeling so emotionally overwhelmed so feeling so emotionally overwhelmed with what you've done for me. Whoa. Like with what you've done for me. Whoa. Like with what you've done for me. Whoa. Like if anything in that moment I was just if anything in that moment I was just if anything in that moment I was just genuinely sharing a business that I see genuinely sharing a business that I see genuinely sharing a business that I see has great potential, a person who I love has great potential, a person who I love has great potential, a person who I love and that moment seeing how much we can and that moment seeing how much we can and that moment seeing how much we can give back as a leader whether you take give back as a leader whether you take give back as a leader whether you take that as I was being a leader and pushing that as I was being a leader and pushing that as I was being a leader and pushing her and and and building up her business her and and and building up her business her and and and building up her business and her brand and what she's doing but and her brand and what she's doing but and her brand and what she's doing but >> whoa I mean the sense of community that >> whoa I mean the sense of community that >> whoa I mean the sense of community that comes from that. So being seeing your comes from that. So being seeing your comes from that. So being seeing your influence in community and your influence in community and your influence in community and your influence in in how to help others to me influence in in how to help others to me influence in in how to help others to me that's a leader helping others is is that's a leader helping others is is that's a leader helping others is is being a leader and my business is being a leader and my business is being a leader and my business is completely built on how I help others. completely built on how I help others. completely built on how I help others. Um and that's again like I just keep Um and that's again like I just keep Um and that's again like I just keep coming back to that word blessed and g
1:02coming back to that word blessed and g coming back to that word blessed and g having a gift like I'm this has been a having a gift like I'm this has been a having a gift like I'm this has been a gift for me to be able to and I'm I'm gift for me to be able to and I'm I'm gift for me to be able to and I'm I'm thrilled to think about my platform thrilled to think about my platform thrilled to think about my platform getting bigger. I see my Instagram, you getting bigger. I see my Instagram, you getting bigger. I see my Instagram, you know, account know, account know, account >> building and all I get excited about is >> building and all I get excited about is >> building and all I get excited about is the more people I'm going to be able to the more people I'm going to be able to the more people I'm going to be able to reach and the more people I'm going to reach and the more people I'm going to reach and the more people I'm going to be able to help and um what I don't be able to help and um what I don't be able to help and um what I don't there's nothing better than that. I there's nothing better than that. I there's nothing better than that. I don't I don't think so. don't I don't think so. don't I don't think so. >> Did I answer your question? >> Did I answer your question? >> Did I answer your question? >> Absolutely. There's no uh there's no >> Absolutely. There's no uh there's no >> Absolutely. There's no uh there's no better feeling than impacting people better feeling than impacting people better feeling than impacting people >> by doing just what you're doing. You >> by doing just what you're doing. You >> by doing just what you're doing. You know what I mean? life of service. I know what I mean? life of service. I know what I mean? life of service. I personally feel a life without service personally feel a life without service personally feel a life without service is very empty for me. is very empty for me. is very empty for me. I love pouring into other people and I love pouring into other people and I love pouring into other people and building other people up and you know building other people up and you know building other people up and you know even at like the ACE dinner last night even at like the ACE dinner last night even at like the ACE dinner last night we had 40 guys and just the stories that we had 40 guys and just the stories that we had 40 guys and just the stories that you hear about individuals and this one you hear about individuals and this one you hear about individuals and this one guy you know he kind of opened up and guy you know he kind of opened up and guy you know he kind of opened up and was like was like was like >> I've never done anything like this >> I've never done anything like this >> I've never done anything like this before and he's 50 years old and he was before and he's 50 years old and he was before and he's 50 years old and he was like even my wife they're divorced now
1:03like even my wife they're divorced now like even my wife they're divorced now but she didn't even know what what he but she didn't even know what what he but she didn't even know what what he liked. He's like, "I like Legos and I liked. He's like, "I like Legos and I liked. He's like, "I like Legos and I like collecting coins." And he has a like collecting coins." And he has a like collecting coins." And he has a drinking problem. And we said, "Where do drinking problem. And we said, "Where do drinking problem. And we said, "Where do you drink?" And he said, "Well, I you drink?" And he said, "Well, I you drink?" And he said, "Well, I actually take the train into Queens and actually take the train into Queens and actually take the train into Queens and I buy homeless guys meals and I buy them I buy homeless guys meals and I buy them I buy homeless guys meals and I buy them beers and I sit and I drink with them beers and I sit and I drink with them beers and I sit and I drink with them >> because he's so lonely." You know what I >> because he's so lonely." You know what I >> because he's so lonely." You know what I mean? Like, you know what I mean? Like mean? Like, you know what I mean? Like mean? Like, you know what I mean? Like that. And I don't know if I explained it that. And I don't know if I explained it that. And I don't know if I explained it in a way that made anybody who's in a way that made anybody who's in a way that made anybody who's listening to it actually feel the depth listening to it actually feel the depth listening to it actually feel the depth of that, of that, of that, >> but all of us in that group and there >> but all of us in that group and there >> but all of us in that group and there was about eight of us in that specific was about eight of us in that specific was about eight of us in that specific group. I mean, we just literally like group. I mean, we just literally like group. I mean, we just literally like put our hand on him and was like, put our hand on him and was like, put our hand on him and was like, >> you're part of this community now, >> you're part of this community now, >> you're part of this community now, >> you know, like and us doing that, he >> you know, like and us doing that, he >> you know, like and us doing that, he then went into this this mode of, you then went into this this mode of, you then went into this this mode of, you know, he had his eyes glossed over and know, he had his eyes glossed over and know, he had his eyes glossed over and >> he was just so grateful. >> he was just so grateful. >> he was just so grateful. >> And that was a moment that I sat back >> And that was a moment that I sat back >> And that was a moment that I sat back and I was like, "Wow." like we didn't and I was like, "Wow." like we didn't and I was like, "Wow." like we didn't even really do anything. We were just even really do anything. We were just even really do anything. We were just there for him just to talk and he's there for him just to talk and he's there for him just to talk and he's never told anybody. How embarrassed is never told anybody. How embarrassed is never told anybody. How embarrassed is he that he's going and he's he's buying
1:04he that he's going and he's he's buying he that he's going and he's he's buying homeless people. So, he's doing this act homeless people. So, he's doing this act homeless people. So, he's doing this act of service for people, but he has a of service for people, but he has a of service for people, but he has a drinking pot and that's where he feels drinking pot and that's where he feels drinking pot and that's where he feels most comfortable with strangers who are most comfortable with strangers who are most comfortable with strangers who are homeless. Um, so just the power of homeless. Um, so just the power of homeless. Um, so just the power of community and when you said service that community and when you said service that community and when you said service that immediately just pops in. immediately just pops in. immediately just pops in. >> We really all I mean we all should be in >> We really all I mean we all should be in >> We really all I mean we all should be in service no matter what. I mean it service no matter what. I mean it service no matter what. I mean it doesn't have to be anything huge. I mean doesn't have to be anything huge. I mean doesn't have to be anything huge. I mean whether you hold a door open for someone whether you hold a door open for someone whether you hold a door open for someone correct going into a store that's of correct going into a store that's of correct going into a store that's of being of service. I mean you really being of service. I mean you really being of service. I mean you really should be always looking at how you can should be always looking at how you can should be always looking at how you can help others. I don't it's it's help others. I don't it's it's help others. I don't it's it's interesting under trying to understand interesting under trying to understand interesting under trying to understand people that don't come from that. It it people that don't come from that. It it people that don't come from that. It it makes I feel really I I move, you know, makes I feel really I I move, you know, makes I feel really I I move, you know, as you get older, of course, you know, as you get older, of course, you know, as you get older, of course, you know, hindsight and you you learn. I move from hindsight and you you learn. I move from hindsight and you you learn. I move from a place now of empathy for those who a place now of empathy for those who a place now of empathy for those who have not arrived yet at a place of being have not arrived yet at a place of being have not arrived yet at a place of being able to come from a place of service or able to come from a place of service or able to come from a place of service or a place of kindness or a place of a place of kindness or a place of a place of kindness or a place of empathy. I have to have, you know, it's empathy. I have to have, you know, it's empathy. I have to have, you know, it's like like the let them theory, Mel
1:05like like the let them theory, Mel like like the let them theory, Mel Robbins. It's like Robbins. It's like Robbins. It's like >> people move and you see someone who's >> people move and you see someone who's >> people move and you see someone who's mean to you or they don't open the door, mean to you or they don't open the door, mean to you or they don't open the door, they cut you off in traffic or you let they cut you off in traffic or you let they cut you off in traffic or you let it's like you I almost see them and I I it's like you I almost see them and I I it's like you I almost see them and I I feel sorry for them now. I look at them feel sorry for them now. I look at them feel sorry for them now. I look at them and I think gosh what's going on in and I think gosh what's going on in and I think gosh what's going on in their world that their world that their world that >> they didn't feel like holding the door >> they didn't feel like holding the door >> they didn't feel like holding the door for me or they cut me off or they took for me or they cut me off or they took for me or they cut me off or they took that parking spot and they knew I was that parking spot and they knew I was that parking spot and they knew I was waiting like whatever whatever it is waiting like whatever whatever it is waiting like whatever whatever it is they're not happy people you know. Um, they're not happy people you know. Um, they're not happy people you know. Um, so the the being of service part is I so the the being of service part is I so the the being of service part is I just think if you do that, if you look just think if you do that, if you look just think if you do that, if you look at everything you're doing in your day at everything you're doing in your day at everything you're doing in your day of of from that lens, how can you really of of from that lens, how can you really of of from that lens, how can you really make a bad decision? make a bad decision? make a bad decision? >> You know, I love that. >> You know, I love that. >> You know, I love that. >> Um, >> Um, >> Um, >> listen, I am I'm extremely grateful for >> listen, I am I'm extremely grateful for >> listen, I am I'm extremely grateful for this conversation. Um, and being mindful this conversation. Um, and being mindful this conversation. Um, and being mindful of time, I want to wrap with one final of time, I want to wrap with one final of time, I want to wrap with one final question. And um for anybody who is is question. And um for anybody who is is question. And um for anybody who is is listening um kind of circling back to listening um kind of circling back to listening um kind of circling back to that heartbreak, that burnout, that that heartbreak, that burnout, that that heartbreak, that burnout, that self-doubt that we spoke about, what is self-doubt that we spoke about, what is self-doubt that we spoke about, what is your call to action to help them not
1:06your call to action to help them not your call to action to help them not snooze on life for a lack of better snooze on life for a lack of better snooze on life for a lack of better terms? terms? terms? >> I would say find community. I mean, you >> I would say find community. I mean, you >> I would say find community. I mean, you literally just described a story about literally just described a story about literally just described a story about this gentleman last night. I mean, you this gentleman last night. I mean, you this gentleman last night. I mean, you you can do anything if you feel you can do anything if you feel you can do anything if you feel supported. So I would say you know find supported. So I would say you know find supported. So I would say you know find the community that gives you the base the community that gives you the base the community that gives you the base and the um the strength uh to be able to and the um the strength uh to be able to and the um the strength uh to be able to make the right moves and decisions in make the right moves and decisions in make the right moves and decisions in your life and that could be helping with your life and that could be helping with your life and that could be helping with addiction that could be making decisions addiction that could be making decisions addiction that could be making decisions to take care of your body to take care to take care of your body to take care to take care of your body to take care of your mental health. Um so yeah I mean of your mental health. Um so yeah I mean of your mental health. Um so yeah I mean just the community focus for me it has just the community focus for me it has just the community focus for me it has been a gamecher in everything that I do. been a gamecher in everything that I do. been a gamecher in everything that I do. So, I would say find the community, So, I would say find the community, So, I would say find the community, figure out, write things down, write figure out, write things down, write figure out, write things down, write things down about what you love to do, things down about what you love to do, things down about what you love to do, what your passions are, what your what your passions are, what your what your passions are, what your challenges are, take that list and take challenges are, take that list and take challenges are, take that list and take a look at what that is for you, and find a look at what that is for you, and find a look at what that is for you, and find that community to help you um find find that community to help you um find find that community to help you um find find a way forward, find your path forward. a way forward, find your path forward. a way forward, find your path forward. And that's the container that you're And that's the container that you're And that's the container that you're providing. That's the container I'm
1:07providing. That's the container I'm providing. That's the container I'm providing. Come and just try it one providing. Come and just try it one providing. Come and just try it one time. Sign yourself up. Go do something time. Sign yourself up. Go do something time. Sign yourself up. Go do something out of your comfort zone. I mean, I out of your comfort zone. I mean, I out of your comfort zone. I mean, I guess just getting out of your comfort guess just getting out of your comfort guess just getting out of your comfort zone, you know, we get stuck in that, zone, you know, we get stuck in that, zone, you know, we get stuck in that, you know, even if it's not good for us, you know, even if it's not good for us, you know, even if it's not good for us, we're stuck in the comfort of what's not we're stuck in the comfort of what's not we're stuck in the comfort of what's not good for us because it's comfortable. good for us because it's comfortable. good for us because it's comfortable. You know, as humans, we are programmed You know, as humans, we are programmed You know, as humans, we are programmed to stay comfortable. I mean, I often say to stay comfortable. I mean, I often say to stay comfortable. I mean, I often say to people, our our epidemic to me now is to people, our our epidemic to me now is to people, our our epidemic to me now is that we have this epidemic of comfort. that we have this epidemic of comfort. that we have this epidemic of comfort. Nobody wants to be uncomfortable. They Nobody wants to be uncomfortable. They Nobody wants to be uncomfortable. They go home, they sit on their sofas, they go home, they sit on their sofas, they go home, they sit on their sofas, they watch TV, they overeat, they eat the watch TV, they overeat, they eat the watch TV, they overeat, they eat the wrong foods, they self-medicate, they go wrong foods, they self-medicate, they go wrong foods, they self-medicate, they go on their screens. It's all about staying on their screens. It's all about staying on their screens. It's all about staying in that comfortable zone even though in that comfortable zone even though in that comfortable zone even though they're probably sick and they don't they're probably sick and they don't they're probably sick and they don't feel very good, but it's what they know. feel very good, but it's what they know. feel very good, but it's what they know. So, just trying to shift, make that So, just trying to shift, make that So, just trying to shift, make that shift of, you know, doing something to shift of, you know, doing something to shift of, you know, doing something to get you out of your comfort zone will get you out of your comfort zone will get you out of your comfort zone will open up so many avenues for you. You'll open up so many avenues for you. You'll open up so many avenues for you. You'll get a little inspiration. and you'll see get a little inspiration. and you'll see get a little inspiration. and you'll see that light at the end of the tunnel and
1:08that light at the end of the tunnel and that light at the end of the tunnel and maybe that'll take you down a different maybe that'll take you down a different maybe that'll take you down a different path that's going to bring you more path that's going to bring you more path that's going to bring you more happiness and more calmness. And you happiness and more calmness. And you happiness and more calmness. And you know, my goal is, you know, I love I know, my goal is, you know, I love I know, my goal is, you know, I love I love being happy, but to have a a calm love being happy, but to have a a calm love being happy, but to have a a calm central nervous system central nervous system central nervous system >> all day long is the goal. Wake up >> all day long is the goal. Wake up >> all day long is the goal. Wake up without anxiety, go to sleep without without anxiety, go to sleep without without anxiety, go to sleep without anxiety, feel grounded, feel safe. Um, I anxiety, feel grounded, feel safe. Um, I anxiety, feel grounded, feel safe. Um, I think that's really should be our goal think that's really should be our goal think that's really should be our goal as as humans now. It's not, you know, as as humans now. It's not, you know, as as humans now. It's not, you know, how much money do I have and all of how much money do I have and all of how much money do I have and all of that. It's like, do I go to sleep? Can I that. It's like, do I go to sleep? Can I that. It's like, do I go to sleep? Can I take care of myself? Do I feel safe? And take care of myself? Do I feel safe? And take care of myself? Do I feel safe? And that's all about the central nervous that's all about the central nervous that's all about the central nervous system. And that comes from community. system. And that comes from community. system. And that comes from community. It comes from movement. It comes from It comes from movement. It comes from It comes from movement. It comes from doing things for our body doing things for our body doing things for our body physiologically that benefit us. Um, and physiologically that benefit us. Um, and physiologically that benefit us. Um, and for our brain, our brain health. So, for our brain, our brain health. So, for our brain, our brain health. So, >> that's it. >> that's it. >> that's it. >> Simple but fire. >> Simple but fire. >> Simple but fire. >> Simple but fire. >> Simple but fire. >> I I love it. Um, let everybody know >> I I love it. Um, let everybody know >> I I love it. Um, let everybody know where they can find you and connect with where they can find you and connect with where they can find you and connect with you, please. um at Instagram, kinsana. you, please. um at Instagram, kinsana. you, please. um at Instagram, kinsana. Um kinsana.com. Um kinsana.com. Um kinsana.com. My email is gingerkinsson.com.
1:09My email is gingerkinsson.com. My email is gingerkinsson.com. Um yes, reach out on Instagram. Send me Um yes, reach out on Instagram. Send me Um yes, reach out on Instagram. Send me a DM. Send me an email. Can't wait to a DM. Send me an email. Can't wait to a DM. Send me an email. Can't wait to meet your community. Come get in the meet your community. Come get in the meet your community. Come get in the sauna. Cold plunge with us. We have a sauna. Cold plunge with us. We have a sauna. Cold plunge with us. We have a beautiful community that we're building beautiful community that we're building beautiful community that we're building outside in nature that can do hard outside in nature that can do hard outside in nature that can do hard things, but all together. So, can't wait things, but all together. So, can't wait things, but all together. So, can't wait to see everyone. to see everyone. to see everyone. >> Listen, um I said it a couple times, but >> Listen, um I said it a couple times, but >> Listen, um I said it a couple times, but I just want to say again, thank you. I just want to say again, thank you. I just want to say again, thank you. Thank you for Yes. Thank you for sharing Thank you for Yes. Thank you for sharing Thank you for Yes. Thank you for sharing your story with us. Um, vulnerability your story with us. Um, vulnerability your story with us. Um, vulnerability >> at times is looked at as a weakness, >> at times is looked at as a weakness, >> at times is looked at as a weakness, >> right? We try to bridge the gap between >> right? We try to bridge the gap between >> right? We try to bridge the gap between masculinity and vulnerability and you masculinity and vulnerability and you masculinity and vulnerability and you were just so vulnerable and open with were just so vulnerable and open with were just so vulnerable and open with us. Uh, so I I don't take that us. Uh, so I I don't take that us. Uh, so I I don't take that conversation lightly. I want to continue conversation lightly. I want to continue conversation lightly. I want to continue to to build alongside with you. I want to to build alongside with you. I want to to build alongside with you. I want to continue to do some really dope to continue to do some really dope to continue to do some really dope events. Yeah. events. Yeah. events. Yeah. >> Together. I'm excited. And I also want >> Together. I'm excited. And I also want >> Together. I'm excited. And I also want to encourage everybody to check to encourage everybody to check to encourage everybody to check everything that Ginger is doing through everything that Ginger is doing through everything that Ginger is doing through Kin Sauna. I'm telling you guys, it is Kin Sauna. I'm telling you guys, it is Kin Sauna. I'm telling you guys, it is the best addition to any private event the best addition to any private event the best addition to any private event that you're hosting, right? Like I
1:10that you're hosting, right? Like I that you're hosting, right? Like I >> I I'm thinking about birthday parties. I >> I I'm thinking about birthday parties. I >> I I'm thinking about birthday parties. I mean, I'm thinking about wellness mean, I'm thinking about wellness mean, I'm thinking about wellness retreats. Like I'm thinking about all retreats. Like I'm thinking about all retreats. Like I'm thinking about all the things even in business, right? Like the things even in business, right? Like the things even in business, right? Like some leadership initiatives, corporate. some leadership initiatives, corporate. some leadership initiatives, corporate. Uh it's just a really really dope setup Uh it's just a really really dope setup Uh it's just a really really dope setup and the person behind the brand is is and the person behind the brand is is and the person behind the brand is is even better. So, I really just want to even better. So, I really just want to even better. So, I really just want to encourage everybody to go check out encourage everybody to go check out encourage everybody to go check out >> I'm so grateful to be part of your >> I'm so grateful to be part of your >> I'm so grateful to be part of your mission and part of what you're doing mission and part of what you're doing mission and part of what you're doing and um just really excited about all of and um just really excited about all of and um just really excited about all of the potential and all the people we're the potential and all the people we're the potential and all the people we're going to be able to help. going to be able to help. going to be able to help. >> Yep. >> Yep. >> Yep. >> Let's do it. >> Let's do it. >> Let's do it. >> All right. Uh guys, as always, I just >> All right. Uh guys, as always, I just >> All right. Uh guys, as always, I just want to say thank you to you, the want to say thank you to you, the want to say thank you to you, the listener. This show continues to grow. listener. This show continues to grow. listener. This show continues to grow. It was a top 10% podcast on Spotify last It was a top 10% podcast on Spotify last It was a top 10% podcast on Spotify last year. CV, I think we're cracking the top year. CV, I think we're cracking the top year. CV, I think we're cracking the top 5% this year, my brother. Um this was 5% this year, my brother. Um this was 5% this year, my brother. Um this was episode 247. Is that is that accurate? episode 247. Is that is that accurate? episode 247. Is that is that accurate? Um guys, and I also just want to say Um guys, and I also just want to say Um guys, and I also just want to say thank you for purchasing a copy of my thank you for purchasing a copy of my thank you for purchasing a copy of my new book, 30 Lessons to Lead. It is um new book, 30 Lessons to Lead. It is um new book, 30 Lessons to Lead. It is um it's really my my life's work put into it's really my my life's work put into it's really my my life's work put into one document for you guys from one document for you guys from one document for you guys from breakdowns to breakthroughs and giving breakdowns to breakthroughs and giving breakdowns to breakthroughs and giving you guys tangible tools and takeaways.
1:11you guys tangible tools and takeaways. you guys tangible tools and takeaways. Uh so without further ado, thank you Uh so without further ado, thank you Uh so without further ado, thank you guys so much. And as always, stop guys so much. And as always, stop guys so much. And as always, stop snoozing, snoozing, snoozing, >> get up [laughter] and get after it, >> get up [laughter] and get after it, >> get up [laughter] and get after it, >> and go get in that sauna, baby. Go get >> and go get in that sauna, baby. Go get >> and go get in that sauna, baby. Go get hot in that sauna. Thank you guys for [music] tuning in. Thank you guys for [music] tuning in. That's another EP in the books. You can That's another EP in the books. You can That's another EP in the books. You can follow us on Instagram, No Podcast, and follow us on Instagram, No Podcast, and follow us on Instagram, No Podcast, and leave us a fivestar review wherever you leave us a fivestar review wherever you leave us a fivestar review wherever you listen to us. Subscribe to our YouTube listen to us. Subscribe to our YouTube listen to us. Subscribe to our YouTube channel, No. Shop the latest merch at channel, No. Shop the latest merch at channel, No. Shop the latest merch at noshop.com. noshop.com. noshop.com. Come on.
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