00:00welcome to another episode of progress welcome to another episode of progress always Mike Anders here where we discuss always Mike Anders here where we discuss always Mike Anders here where we discuss all things Fitness healing and mindset all things Fitness healing and mindset all things Fitness healing and mindset and I have the esteemed pleasure to sit and I have the esteemed pleasure to sit and I have the esteemed pleasure to sit down with Dr Tom Seager professor of down with Dr Tom Seager professor of down with Dr Tom Seager professor of engineering at Arizona State co-founder engineering at Arizona State co-founder engineering at Arizona State co-founder of the Morosco Forge and builder of of the Morosco Forge and builder of of the Morosco Forge and builder of technology for human resilience my man technology for human resilience my man technology for human resilience my man thank you so much for taking the time thank you so much for taking the time thank you so much for taking the time today it's my pleasure thank you for today it's my pleasure thank you for today it's my pleasure thank you for inviting me absolutely I have shared inviting me absolutely I have shared inviting me absolutely I have shared time with uh your uh Apprentice turned time with uh your uh Apprentice turned time with uh your uh Apprentice turned partner uh Jason and uh other business partner uh Jason and uh other business partner uh Jason and uh other business partner Adrian and had a guided partner Adrian and had a guided partner Adrian and had a guided experience by both of them which was experience by both of them which was experience by both of them which was absolutely amazing and got to spend some absolutely amazing and got to spend some absolutely amazing and got to spend some time with Adrian and Austin for that time with Adrian and Austin for that time with Adrian and Austin for that guided experience that she kind of gave guided experience that she kind of gave guided experience that she kind of gave me the behind the scenes as to how you me the behind the scenes as to how you me the behind the scenes as to how you got involved in this operation and uh got involved in this operation and uh got involved in this operation and uh approaching deliber cold exposure from
01:00approaching deliber cold exposure from approaching deliber cold exposure from an engineering standpoint it seems like an engineering standpoint it seems like an engineering standpoint it seems like you kind of gave Jason the nudge uh ever you kind of gave Jason the nudge uh ever you kind of gave Jason the nudge uh ever so gently or aggressively depend on how so gently or aggressively depend on how so gently or aggressively depend on how you want to look at it to to make this you want to look at it to to make this you want to look at it to to make this beautiful machine real and turn it into beautiful machine real and turn it into beautiful machine real and turn it into the uh uh not to overuse it the machine the uh uh not to overuse it the machine the uh uh not to overuse it the machine that is giving back and helping people that is giving back and helping people that is giving back and helping people uh find themselves again through uh find themselves again through uh find themselves again through deliberate cold exposure that is the the deliberate cold exposure that is the the deliberate cold exposure that is the the Morosco Forge so it seems like you guys Morosco Forge so it seems like you guys Morosco Forge so it seems like you guys have this really have this really have this really beautiful uh Holy Trinity uh Dynamic beautiful uh Holy Trinity uh Dynamic beautiful uh Holy Trinity uh Dynamic going on and uh where I would describe going on and uh where I would describe going on and uh where I would describe Adrien as very much the the art of this Adrien as very much the the art of this Adrien as very much the the art of this deal you and Jason definitely being the deal you and Jason definitely being the deal you and Jason definitely being the the science of it all has been my my the science of it all has been my my the science of it all has been my my experience personally between the three experience personally between the three experience personally between the three of you so uh I I want to kind of start of you so uh I I want to kind of start of you so uh I I want to kind of start with your own personal Journey Adrian
02:00with your own personal Journey Adrian with your own personal Journey Adrian had given me some insight into some of had given me some insight into some of had given me some insight into some of the problems that or issues that you the problems that or issues that you the problems that or issues that you resolved through your Discovery and resolved through your Discovery and resolved through your Discovery and experience of deliberate cold exposure experience of deliberate cold exposure experience of deliberate cold exposure and that and then we'll we'll dive into and that and then we'll we'll dive into and that and then we'll we'll dive into uh the Inception of Morosco and where we uh the Inception of Morosco and where we uh the Inception of Morosco and where we are today we're going back U six or are today we're going back U six or are today we're going back U six or seven years now uh I mean in a way it's seven years now uh I mean in a way it's seven years now uh I mean in a way it's like yesterday in a way it's ancient like yesterday in a way it's ancient like yesterday in a way it's ancient history um I started like a lot of history um I started like a lot of history um I started like a lot of people because there was no such thing people because there was no such thing people because there was no such thing as an ice bath on the market there you as an ice bath on the market there you as an ice bath on the market there you know I got a chess freezer and that was know I got a chess freezer and that was know I got a chess freezer and that was because Jason and I were getting really because Jason and I were getting really because Jason and I were getting really into doing ice bath in the backyard we into doing ice bath in the backyard we into doing ice bath in the backyard we would get together on the weekends and would get together on the weekends and would get together on the weekends and buy 200 pounds of ice and put it in a buy 200 pounds of ice and put it in a buy 200 pounds of ice and put it in a stock tank like a lot of people still do stock tank like a lot of people still do stock tank like a lot of people still do just that the problem in Phoenix is you just that the problem in Phoenix is you just that the problem in Phoenix is you know it's 120 degrees and you go through know it's 120 degrees and you go through know it's 120 degrees and you go through 200 pounds of ice in 15 minutes and if 200 pounds of ice in 15 minutes and if 200 pounds of ice in 15 minutes and if you got four or five PE I mean it just you got four or five PE I mean it just you got four or five PE I mean it just it doesn't work and so I thought all it doesn't work and so I thought all it doesn't work and so I thought all right I'll I'll buy one of these Sears right I'll I'll buy one of these Sears right I'll I'll buy one of these Sears chest freezers and I got a really big chest freezers and I got a really big chest freezers and I got a really big one and um that was a little different
03:00one and um that was a little different one and um that was a little different it leaked a little bit but it made a lot it leaked a little bit but it made a lot it leaked a little bit but it made a lot of ice and I was happy about that and of ice and I was happy about that and of ice and I was happy about that and you had to change the water there's a you had to change the water there's a you had to change the water there's a whole you know Facebook or a Reddit whole you know Facebook or a Reddit whole you know Facebook or a Reddit group or something on how to really do group or something on how to really do group or something on how to really do this right but back then it wasn't so this right but back then it wasn't so this right but back then it wasn't so popular so Jason and I were think well popular so Jason and I were think well popular so Jason and I were think well we ought to be able to do this like we ought to be able to do this like we ought to be able to do this like we're Engineers you know we'll figure we're Engineers you know we'll figure we're Engineers you know we'll figure this out and the big deal was we wanted this out and the big deal was we wanted this out and the big deal was we wanted to do it every day if you're doing it to do it every day if you're doing it to do it every day if you're doing it you know like you weekends or every once you know like you weekends or every once you know like you weekends or every once in a while then go ahead down to the gas in a while then go ahead down to the gas in a while then go ahead down to the gas station and pick up the bags of ice but station and pick up the bags of ice but station and pick up the bags of ice but when you're ready to get serious every when you're ready to get serious every when you're ready to get serious every day and you start doing the math you're day and you start doing the math you're day and you start doing the math you're like this is going to cost me a fortune like this is going to cost me a fortune like this is going to cost me a fortune all of a sudden you know spending 12 all of a sudden you know spending 12 all of a sudden you know spending 12 $133,000 and our first prototype cost me $133,000 and our first prototype cost me $133,000 and our first prototype cost me $22,000 on my credit cards because we $22,000 on my credit cards because we $22,000 on my credit cards because we didn't even know what we were doing now didn't even know what we were doing now didn't even know what we were doing now it seems like a good investment so you it seems like a good investment so you it seems like a good investment so you know we're fooling around and we made know we're fooling around and we made know we're fooling around and we made ice and um we know some things about ice and um we know some things about ice and um we know some things about engineering and this was great and then
04:00engineering and this was great and then engineering and this was great and then I got a lab report back that scared the I got a lab report back that scared the I got a lab report back that scared the hell out of me it was you know I'm 52 at hell out of me it was you know I'm 52 at hell out of me it was you know I'm 52 at the time I'll be 58 this year so maybe I the time I'll be 58 this year so maybe I the time I'll be 58 this year so maybe I was 51 back then and uh male Health was 51 back then and uh male Health was 51 back then and uh male Health panel you got to get all this stuff panel you got to get all this stuff panel you got to get all this stuff checked and they want to know where your checked and they want to know where your checked and they want to know where your cholesterol is and one of those things cholesterol is and one of those things cholesterol is and one of those things on the male Health panel is the PSA on the male Health panel is the PSA on the male Health panel is the PSA prostate specific antigen and mine came prostate specific antigen and mine came prostate specific antigen and mine came back elevated so I I get on the web and back elevated so I I get on the web and back elevated so I I get on the web and I start well what is this PSA and why I start well what is this PSA and why I start well what is this PSA and why does it have a big red exclamation mark does it have a big red exclamation mark does it have a big red exclamation mark on my lab panel and it says you should on my lab panel and it says you should on my lab panel and it says you should get checked for prostate cancer PSA is a get checked for prostate cancer PSA is a get checked for prostate cancer PSA is a measure of this is what I had to learn measure of this is what I had to learn measure of this is what I had to learn PSA is a measure of inflammation in the PSA is a measure of inflammation in the PSA is a measure of inflammation in the prostate and when you go online and you prostate and when you go online and you prostate and when you go online and you look it up it says oh are you having any look it up it says oh are you having any look it up it says oh are you having any of these symptoms um difficulty of these symptoms um difficulty of these symptoms um difficulty urinating for example and so I'm like I urinating for example and so I'm like I urinating for example and so I'm like I don't know am I I'm having difficulty don't know am I I'm having difficulty don't know am I I'm having difficulty here and I could barely pee because I here and I could barely pee because I here and I could barely pee because I was so self-conscious about my peeing I
05:00was so self-conscious about my peeing I was so self-conscious about my peeing I thought like in my head you know my thought like in my head you know my thought like in my head you know my catastrophic mind it starts going I'm catastrophic mind it starts going I'm catastrophic mind it starts going I'm like I'm going to die of prostate cancer like I'm going to die of prostate cancer like I'm going to die of prostate cancer and so I got to look that up turns out and so I got to look that up turns out and so I got to look that up turns out um you know it's a slow moving one it is um you know it's a slow moving one it is um you know it's a slow moving one it is dangerous but dangerous but dangerous but um it you have some time I told myself um it you have some time I told myself um it you have some time I told myself Tom talk to some men like when was the Tom talk to some men like when was the Tom talk to some men like when was the last prostate exam you had that's one of last prostate exam you had that's one of last prostate exam you had that's one of the questions and did your you know the questions and did your you know the questions and did your you know urologist or oncologist or did your urologist or oncologist or did your urologist or oncologist or did your doctor notice any imp these kinds of doctor notice any imp these kinds of doctor notice any imp these kinds of well I hadn't had a prostate exam in 20 well I hadn't had a prostate exam in 20 well I hadn't had a prostate exam in 20 years and the more men I talked to about years and the more men I talked to about years and the more men I talked to about it the more I realized I wasn't goingon it the more I realized I wasn't goingon it the more I realized I wasn't goingon to have one I was not gonna go get a to have one I was not gonna go get a to have one I was not gonna go get a prostate exam I was not gonna have a prostate exam I was not gonna have a prostate exam I was not gonna have a biopsy I was not going to do any of the biopsy I was not going to do any of the biopsy I was not going to do any of the things that the the WebMD May Clinic things that the the WebMD May Clinic things that the the WebMD May Clinic healthline.com was telling me to do healthline.com was telling me to do healthline.com was telling me to do because these men who did these things because these men who did these things because these men who did these things they were saying well this is uh how they were saying well this is uh how they were saying well this is uh how much it hurt and uh this is what they much it hurt and uh this is what they much it hurt and uh this is what they told me I had to do next and this is is told me I had to do next and this is is told me I had to do next and this is is what happened to me after I had my
06:00what happened to me after I had my what happened to me after I had my prostate removed and these are guys prostate removed and these are guys prostate removed and these are guys younger than me and guys older than me younger than me and guys older than me younger than me and guys older than me and they were looking at a lifetime of and they were looking at a lifetime of and they were looking at a lifetime of erectile dysfunction as a result of erectile dysfunction as a result of erectile dysfunction as a result of following the medical following the medical following the medical advice I didn't want that I said I'm advice I didn't want that I said I'm advice I didn't want that I said I'm gonna do anything I can to stay out of gonna do anything I can to stay out of gonna do anything I can to stay out of the hospital to stay out of the doctor's the hospital to stay out of the doctor's the hospital to stay out of the doctor's office for this and that's when I got office for this and that's when I got office for this and that's when I got really serious about ice baths I was really serious about ice baths I was really serious about ice baths I was doing keto I was doing ice baths I was doing keto I was doing ice baths I was doing keto I was doing ice baths I was doing anything dietary that I could to doing anything dietary that I could to doing anything dietary that I could to bring inflammation down and I was kind bring inflammation down and I was kind bring inflammation down and I was kind of in denial one of the reasons I didn't of in denial one of the reasons I didn't of in denial one of the reasons I didn't want a biopsy was all the side effects want a biopsy was all the side effects want a biopsy was all the side effects and the risks of the biopsy the other and the risks of the biopsy the other and the risks of the biopsy the other reason was I didn't want to know like if reason was I didn't want to know like if reason was I didn't want to know like if if I really had cancer and I probably if I really had cancer and I probably if I really had cancer and I probably didn't because the PSA is so unreliable didn't because the PSA is so unreliable didn't because the PSA is so unreliable but you know at that but you know at that but you know at that time your brain does things that it time your brain does things that it time your brain does things that it tells you ideas you get things in your tells you ideas you get things in your tells you ideas you get things in your imagination that make you anxious that imagination that make you anxious that imagination that make you anxious that was definitely happening to me but I was definitely happening to me but I was definitely happening to me but I didn't want to know because I didn't
07:00didn't want to know because I didn't didn't want to know because I didn't tell my daughter I didn't tell anyone in tell my daughter I didn't tell anyone in tell my daughter I didn't tell anyone in my family I didn't confide in anyone but my family I didn't confide in anyone but my family I didn't confide in anyone but the men that I was talking to and I the men that I was talking to and I the men that I was talking to and I didn't want to get pressure from loved didn't want to get pressure from loved didn't want to get pressure from loved ones saying oh please dad not that my ones saying oh please dad not that my ones saying oh please dad not that my daughter's like this but you can imagine daughter's like this but you can imagine daughter's like this but you can imagine i' talk to other men who were like their i' talk to other men who were like their i' talk to other men who were like their wives or their kids or somebody say oh wives or their kids or somebody say oh wives or their kids or somebody say oh but do it for us you know we're so but do it for us you know we're so but do it for us you know we're so scared and we so want for your scared and we so want for your scared and we so want for your well-being I'm like they're not going to well-being I'm like they're not going to well-being I'm like they're not going to know and I don't want to lie about it if know and I don't want to lie about it if know and I don't want to lie about it if I went and get the bu and it turns out I I went and get the bu and it turns out I I went and get the bu and it turns out I do have cancer then it puts me in a very do have cancer then it puts me in a very do have cancer then it puts me in a very difficult position with my loved ones difficult position with my loved ones difficult position with my loved ones I'm going to give myself a year I'll I'm going to give myself a year I'll I'm going to give myself a year I'll give myself two years I did that ice give myself two years I did that ice give myself two years I did that ice bath every day I worked in and out of bath every day I worked in and out of bath every day I worked in and out of keto I would go like weekends I'll eat keto I would go like weekends I'll eat keto I would go like weekends I'll eat my carbs and then weekday I'll skip some my carbs and then weekday I'll skip some my carbs and then weekday I'll skip some meals and I'll go a meals and I'll go a meals and I'll go a keto and I had it in my head that this keto and I had it in my head that this keto and I had it in my head that this was going to be really good for was going to be really good for was going to be really good for inflammation PSA is an inflammation inflammation PSA is an inflammation inflammation PSA is an inflammation indicator and if I did have cancer well indicator and if I did have cancer well indicator and if I did have cancer well that wouldn't hurt either and I went
08:00that wouldn't hurt either and I went that wouldn't hurt either and I went back I'm monitoring my PSA every couple back I'm monitoring my PSA every couple back I'm monitoring my PSA every couple of months and danged if I didn't get it of months and danged if I didn't get it of months and danged if I didn't get it down to like one 0.8 was as low as it down to like one 0.8 was as low as it down to like one 0.8 was as low as it got really consider four normal right so got really consider four normal right so got really consider four normal right so I'm like aha you know I've beaten the I'm like aha you know I've beaten the I'm like aha you know I've beaten the system I feel like I'm kind of system I feel like I'm kind of system I feel like I'm kind of congratulating myself a little bit look congratulating myself a little bit look congratulating myself a little bit look I did it now I can go to my urologist I did it now I can go to my urologist I did it now I can go to my urologist now I'm safe right so I took my now I'm safe right so I took my now I'm safe right so I took my reports and I said look you know I'm I'm reports and I said look you know I'm I'm reports and I said look you know I'm I'm doing great right he goes well I want doing great right he goes well I want doing great right he goes well I want one more test so here's the other thing one more test so here's the other thing one more test so here's the other thing coach that they put on the male Health coach that they put on the male Health coach that they put on the male Health panel yeah they get your PSA but they panel yeah they get your PSA but they panel yeah they get your PSA but they also get your testosterone and while my also get your testosterone and while my also get your testosterone and while my PSA was going down my testosterone was PSA was going down my testosterone was PSA was going down my testosterone was going up and so I went to my urologist going up and so I went to my urologist going up and so I went to my urologist and I was at 1180 nanograms per decaler and I was at 1180 nanograms per decaler and I was at 1180 nanograms per decaler total testosterone and that was the one total testosterone and that was the one total testosterone and that was the one that was out of range big you know red that was out of range big you know red that was out of range big you know red exclamation mark like two too high and
09:00exclamation mark like two too high and exclamation mark like two too high and that was really all my urologist looked that was really all my urologist looked that was really all my urologist looked at he goes I want to do one more test at he goes I want to do one more test at he goes I want to do one more test and so he wrote out a uh you know an and so he wrote out a uh you know an and so he wrote out a uh you know an order and it was for luteinizing hormone order and it was for luteinizing hormone order and it was for luteinizing hormone I'd never heard of lutenizing hormone so I'd never heard of lutenizing hormone so I'd never heard of lutenizing hormone so I got to look that one up turns out I got to look that one up turns out I got to look that one up turns out lutenizing hormone is what stimulates lutenizing hormone is what stimulates lutenizing hormone is what stimulates the gonads to make the testosterone my the gonads to make the testosterone my the gonads to make the testosterone my urologist thought I must be juicing he's urologist thought I must be juicing he's urologist thought I must be juicing he's like I'm shooting myself in the ass with like I'm shooting myself in the ass with like I'm shooting myself in the ass with something like he's he's got these ideas something like he's he's got these ideas something like he's he's got these ideas in his head he in his head he in his head he does he thinks you're Tak does he thinks you're Tak does he thinks you're Tak or anything like that he's just looking or anything like that he's just looking or anything like that he's just looking at this report and he's about my age and at this report and he's about my age and at this report and he's about my age and he's like no way you know 52 year old he's like no way you know 52 year old he's like no way you know 52 year old guy overweight he's got to be on roids guy overweight he's got to be on roids guy overweight he's got to be on roids well for for people who don't know that well for for people who don't know that well for for people who don't know that are listening to this the average 52y are listening to this the average 52y are listening to this the average 52y old is who's not doing any hormone old is who's not doing any hormone old is who's not doing any hormone replacement therapy whatsoever and lives replacement therapy whatsoever and lives replacement therapy whatsoever and lives a stereotypical American sedentary a stereotypical American sedentary a stereotypical American sedentary lifestyle maybe you know engages in you lifestyle maybe you know engages in you lifestyle maybe you know engages in you know 90 minutes of physical activity a
10:00know 90 minutes of physical activity a know 90 minutes of physical activity a week if we're being generous they're week if we're being generous they're week if we're being generous they're probably hovering somewhere in the probably hovering somewhere in the probably hovering somewhere in the neighborhood of 250 to 400 on the high neighborhood of 250 to 400 on the high neighborhood of 250 to 400 on the high side the a the average male your your side the a the average male your your side the a the average male your your age at the time and so for you to be in age at the time and so for you to be in age at the time and so for you to be in the 1100s that's higher than uh the the 1100s that's higher than uh the the 1100s that's higher than uh the average 18y old at the peak of puberty average 18y old at the peak of puberty average 18y old at the peak of puberty so that this that that's why the re for so that this that that's why the re for so that this that that's why the re for those of you listening and for context those of you listening and for context those of you listening and for context that's that's the context of the that's that's the context of the that's that's the context of the doctor's response you're saying he had a doctor's response you're saying he had a doctor's response you're saying he had a reason to be concerned right I mean at reason to be concerned right I mean at reason to be concerned right I mean at least I'm over here clapping for you sir least I'm over here clapping for you sir least I'm over here clapping for you sir right but that's not why I went to him right but that's not why I went to him right but that's not why I went to him you know why did I go like I wanted a you know why did I go like I wanted a you know why did I go like I wanted a pat on the back or something pat on the back or something pat on the back or something um so I go get the um so I go get the um so I go get the blood it comes back 8.9 which is again blood it comes back 8.9 which is again blood it comes back 8.9 which is again off the charts for luteinizing hormones off the charts for luteinizing hormones off the charts for luteinizing hormones so my body if it come back low he would so my body if it come back low he would so my body if it come back low he would know that I'm using exogenous test right know that I'm using exogenous test right know that I'm using exogenous test right but my body is making all this myself
11:00but my body is making all this myself but my body is making all this myself and I sent him those lab reports never and I sent him those lab reports never and I sent him those lab reports never heard from that guy again like he didn't heard from that guy again like he didn't heard from that guy again like he didn't he wasn't curious he didn't say hey he wasn't curious he didn't say hey he wasn't curious he didn't say hey professor Seager how do you maintain professor Seager how do you maintain professor Seager how do you maintain such high tea levels he didn't say hey such high tea levels he didn't say hey such high tea levels he didn't say hey congratulations on getting your PSA now congratulations on getting your PSA now congratulations on getting your PSA now what did you do he had nothing to do what did you do he had nothing to do what did you do he had nothing to do with me after that and so well think with me after that and so well think with me after that and so well think about it it took me a while this for about it it took me a while this for about it it took me a while this for this to sink in think about it from his this to sink in think about it from his this to sink in think about it from his perspective what is he supposed to do perspective what is he supposed to do perspective what is he supposed to do change the way he treats his patients change the way he treats his patients change the way he treats his patients because one guy walks in with these tea because one guy walks in with these tea because one guy walks in with these tea levels that are through the roof and levels that are through the roof and levels that are through the roof and let's say he was curious let's say oh let's say he was curious let's say oh let's say he was curious let's say oh yeah you know I do ice bass every day yeah you know I do ice bass every day yeah you know I do ice bass every day and then I get out and I'm cold and I do and then I get out and I'm cold and I do and then I get out and I'm cold and I do exercises and stuff like that what is he exercises and stuff like that what is he exercises and stuff like that what is he supposed to do to the next you know 52y supposed to do to the next you know 52y supposed to do to the next you know 52y old fat guy that walks in his office he old fat guy that walks in his office he old fat guy that walks in his office he goes well you know they didn't teach me goes well you know they didn't teach me goes well you know they didn't teach me this in medical school and um I'm not this in medical school and um I'm not this in medical school and um I'm not board certified for any of this ice bath board certified for any of this ice bath board certified for any of this ice bath stuff but I just had a guy who comes in stuff but I just had a guy who comes in stuff but I just had a guy who comes in and his Labs look really good have you and his Labs look really good have you and his Labs look really good have you ever thought about doing ice bath an ever thought about doing ice bath an ever thought about doing ice bath an exercise like what are the patients
12:00exercise like what are the patients exercise like what are the patients going to tell him but wouldn't I here going to tell him but wouldn't I here going to tell him but wouldn't I here here here's where I get just genuinely here here's where I get just genuinely here here's where I get just genuinely curious curious curious about call it outside the box remedies about call it outside the box remedies about call it outside the box remedies right like it would be at the very least right like it would be at the very least right like it would be at the very least if I'm the doc worth a if I'm the doc worth a if I'm the doc worth a conversation conversation conversation because you know and I I've had this because you know and I I've had this because you know and I I've had this I've been having this conversation a lot I've been having this conversation a lot I've been having this conversation a lot more often at since we've had the four more often at since we've had the four more often at since we've had the four and know we have some docs uh some uh and know we have some docs uh some uh and know we have some docs uh some uh surgeons and whatnot in in our client surgeons and whatnot in in our client surgeons and whatnot in in our client base and they the people that live in base and they the people that live in base and they the people that live in our sphere seem to be relatively our sphere seem to be relatively our sphere seem to be relatively open-minded regardless of what how they open-minded regardless of what how they open-minded regardless of what how they make their money and they're they at make their money and they're they at make their money and they're they at least live life with least live life with least live life with a some semblance of a some semblance of a some semblance of curiosity you know and it curiosity you know and it curiosity you know and it just it intrigues me so much that your
13:00just it intrigues me so much that your just it intrigues me so much that your doctor would you know try to doctor would you know try to doctor would you know try to invalidate your invalidate your invalidate your numbers to be proven to the numbers to be proven to the numbers to be proven to the contrary and not want to ask more contrary and not want to ask more contrary and not want to ask more questions because if there's a potential questions because if there's a potential questions because if there's a potential for a for a for a non-invasive intervention that will move non-invasive intervention that will move non-invasive intervention that will move the the patient the client in a an the the patient the client in a an the the patient the client in a an upward trajectory towards Better Health upward trajectory towards Better Health upward trajectory towards Better Health like I don't I don't understand why that like I don't I don't understand why that like I don't I don't understand why that resistance exists I I think I can adopt charitably exists I I think I can adopt charitably and I'm kind of dramatizing I'm I'm I'm and I'm kind of dramatizing I'm I'm I'm and I'm kind of dramatizing I'm I'm I'm not creating like a um a charitable not creating like a um a charitable not creating like a um a charitable representation of him but he's got a lot representation of him but he's got a lot representation of him but he's got a lot of patience and he's not I didn't go to of patience and he's not I didn't go to of patience and he's not I didn't go to a guy who's like cancer specialist or a guy who's like cancer specialist or a guy who's like cancer specialist or something like that I just I went to a something like that I just I went to a something like that I just I went to a guy who wasn't because I didn't want to guy who wasn't because I didn't want to guy who wasn't because I didn't want to get stuck on the assembly line of like
14:00get stuck on the assembly line of like get stuck on the assembly line of like cancer treatment and so he was curious cancer treatment and so he was curious cancer treatment and so he was curious he was curious enough to order more labs he was curious enough to order more labs he was curious enough to order more labs and but he wasn't curious enough to call and but he wasn't curious enough to call and but he wasn't curious enough to call me up or email me and say well how do me up or email me and say well how do me up or email me and say well how do you do this turns out nobody cares about you do this turns out nobody cares about you do this turns out nobody cares about my PSA like I I've written all these my PSA like I I've written all these my PSA like I I've written all these articles right and what people really articles right and what people really articles right and what people really want to know is how do I get my want to know is how do I get my want to know is how do I get my testosterone up there and the doctor testosterone up there and the doctor testosterone up there and the doctor that I saw that I saw that I saw he wasn't able to say this is why my he wasn't able to say this is why my he wasn't able to say this is why my patients have such low testosterone just patients have such low testosterone just patients have such low testosterone just like you can look at the statistics and like you can look at the statistics and like you can look at the statistics and say well you know if you're 52 and say well you know if you're 52 and say well you know if you're 52 and you're overweight you you should be you're overweight you you should be you're overweight you you should be happy with your 400 nanograms per happy with your 400 nanograms per happy with your 400 nanograms per decaler or whatever no why does decaler or whatever no why does decaler or whatever no why does testosterone go down with age because it testosterone go down with age because it testosterone go down with age because it doesn't have to it turns out that this doesn't have to it turns out that this doesn't have to it turns out that this is a metabolic decline it goes down with is a metabolic decline it goes down with is a metabolic decline it goes down with age not because you're further from your age not because you're further from your age not because you're further from your birthday but because your mitochondria
15:00birthday but because your mitochondria birthday but because your mitochondria are getting are getting are getting tired they had you've had too many tired they had you've had too many tired they had you've had too many sleepless nights too many seed oils too sleepless nights too many seed oils too sleepless nights too many seed oils too not enough sunshine and vitamin D you've not enough sunshine and vitamin D you've not enough sunshine and vitamin D you've got your metabolism out of whack your got your metabolism out of whack your got your metabolism out of whack your mitocondria are suffering and so your mitocondria are suffering and so your mitocondria are suffering and so your body's like you know what making body's like you know what making body's like you know what making testosterone just isn't our priority testosterone just isn't our priority testosterone just isn't our priority right now we're trying to figure out how right now we're trying to figure out how right now we're trying to figure out how to keep the blood pumping through your to keep the blood pumping through your to keep the blood pumping through your veins veins veins testosterone is going like way down on testosterone is going like way down on testosterone is going like way down on the PRI list how about maybe you don't the PRI list how about maybe you don't the PRI list how about maybe you don't have a heart attack we we're going to have a heart attack we we're going to have a heart attack we we're going to focus on that while everything in your focus on that while everything in your focus on that while everything in your body is inflamed while the mitochondria body is inflamed while the mitochondria body is inflamed while the mitochondria are suffering what the ice bath did for are suffering what the ice bath did for are suffering what the ice bath did for me was activate Brown fat Recruit new me was activate Brown fat Recruit new me was activate Brown fat Recruit new Brown fat stimulate mitobiogenesis and Brown fat stimulate mitobiogenesis and Brown fat stimulate mitobiogenesis and then I come out and I start doing these then I come out and I start doing these then I come out and I start doing these exercises just because I'm cold you know exercises just because I'm cold you know exercises just because I'm cold you know not even like sometimes a brisk walk or not even like sometimes a brisk walk or not even like sometimes a brisk walk or I get my steel mace or do some pull-ups I get my steel mace or do some pull-ups I get my steel mace or do some pull-ups or something just basic stuff and the or something just basic stuff and the or something just basic stuff and the body responds and it says metabol Al body responds and it says metabol Al body responds and it says metabol Al you're doing great Professor Seager
16:00you're doing great Professor Seager you're doing great Professor Seager let's kick out some testosterone we're let's kick out some testosterone we're let's kick out some testosterone we're going to build some muscle we're going going to build some muscle we're going going to build some muscle we're going to you know remodel the body fat that to you know remodel the body fat that to you know remodel the body fat that you do have less visceral fat more you do have less visceral fat more you do have less visceral fat more subcutaneous fat there's a lot left subcutaneous fat there's a lot left subcutaneous fat there's a lot left testosterone um is associated with testosterone um is associated with testosterone um is associated with longer life but what people don't say is longer life but what people don't say is longer life but what people don't say is why and it could be test just why and it could be test just why and it could be test just testosterone supplementation helps you testosterone supplementation helps you testosterone supplementation helps you live longer like I mean we're Gathering live longer like I mean we're Gathering live longer like I mean we're Gathering more data on that or it could be that more data on that or it could be that more data on that or it could be that those people who are metabolically those people who are metabolically those people who are metabolically healthy both live longer lives and healthy both live longer lives and healthy both live longer lives and produce more testosterone the cause and produce more testosterone the cause and produce more testosterone the cause and effect of this Association it's not effect of this Association it's not effect of this Association it's not completely worked out so um why is the completely worked out so um why is the completely worked out so um why is the testosterone on the decline and I'm testosterone on the decline and I'm testosterone on the decline and I'm going to hypothesize that it is due to going to hypothesize that it is due to going to hypothesize that it is due to mitochondrial damage that is represented mitochondrial damage that is represented mitochondrial damage that is represented in insulin resistance metabolic in insulin resistance metabolic in insulin resistance metabolic dysfunction when you fix your metabolism dysfunction when you fix your metabolism dysfunction when you fix your metabolism you fix so many other things in your you fix so many other things in your you fix so many other things in your body mental health your brain function body mental health your brain function body mental health your brain function your testosterone everything gets better
17:00your testosterone everything gets better your testosterone everything gets better when your cells can process the energy when your cells can process the energy when your cells can process the energy that they need for all of your life I that they need for all of your life I that they need for all of your life I think that's an interesting point that think that's an interesting point that think that's an interesting point that you just made because in the the world you just made because in the the world you just made because in the the world of Fitness we we always talk about of Fitness we we always talk about of Fitness we we always talk about Metabolism from the perspective of just Metabolism from the perspective of just Metabolism from the perspective of just simply burning fat efficiently and it's simply burning fat efficiently and it's simply burning fat efficiently and it's so much more than so much more than so much more than that can you dive in just a little bit that can you dive in just a little bit that can you dive in just a little bit more the um we've all been taught even more the um we've all been taught even more the um we've all been taught even as young children to count calories as young children to count calories as young children to count calories we're taught how to read the nutrition we're taught how to read the nutrition we're taught how to read the nutrition labels for example there's so many labels for example there's so many labels for example there's so many calories in this and so many calories in calories in this and so many calories in calories in this and so many calories in that and nisco Unilever cocacola they that and nisco Unilever cocacola they that and nisco Unilever cocacola they would all love us to think that the most would all love us to think that the most would all love us to think that the most important thing on the nutrition label important thing on the nutrition label important thing on the nutrition label is calories and that's the least is calories and that's the least is calories and that's the least important we are not getting good important we are not getting good important we are not getting good information about how our metabolism and
18:00information about how our metabolism and information about how our metabolism and our bodies work I like to think of food our bodies work I like to think of food our bodies work I like to think of food as information first and energy second as information first and energy second as information first and energy second so what do I mean um you got to imagine so what do I mean um you got to imagine so what do I mean um you got to imagine I'm a caveman and I go out into the I'm a caveman and I go out into the I'm a caveman and I go out into the environment everything that I eat is environment everything that I eat is environment everything that I eat is signaling to my body what's plentiful signaling to my body what's plentiful signaling to my body what's plentiful today what can we find today and my body today what can we find today and my body today what can we find today and my body adapts to the information signals that adapts to the information signals that adapts to the information signals that it gets from the food so blueberries are it gets from the food so blueberries are it gets from the food so blueberries are in season and I'm eating a ton of in season and I'm eating a ton of in season and I'm eating a ton of blueberries my body's like all right blueberries my body's like all right blueberries my body's like all right we're getting ready for blueberries we're getting ready for blueberries we're getting ready for blueberries maybe it's winter and all I can get is maybe it's winter and all I can get is maybe it's winter and all I can get is fish you know because I cut a hole in fish you know because I cut a hole in fish you know because I cut a hole in the ice and I drop the worm down there the ice and I drop the worm down there the ice and I drop the worm down there or something so I can catch some fish or something so I can catch some fish or something so I can catch some fish and that's food signals your body both and that's food signals your body both and that's food signals your body both your microbiome and everything in your your microbiome and everything in your your microbiome and everything in your epigenetics it says this is what is epigenetics it says this is what is epigenetics it says this is what is plentiful in the environment and this is plentiful in the environment and this is plentiful in the environment and this is what we're going to do to adapt to get what we're going to do to adapt to get what we're going to do to adapt to get you ready when you think of food is you ready when you think of food is you ready when you think of food is information first what are you telling
19:00information first what are you telling information first what are you telling your body when you're getting it Oreo your body when you're getting it Oreo your body when you're getting it Oreo cookies now your body's like oh I guess cookies now your body's like oh I guess cookies now your body's like oh I guess Oreo cookie season we had a really good Oreo cookie season we had a really good Oreo cookie season we had a really good Oreo hunt there is nothing in your body Oreo hunt there is nothing in your body Oreo hunt there is nothing in your body that is programmed for I mean from like that is programmed for I mean from like that is programmed for I mean from like an evolutionary standpoint for an Oreo an evolutionary standpoint for an Oreo an evolutionary standpoint for an Oreo cookie because that came out of a cookie because that came out of a cookie because that came out of a factory not out of an environment when factory not out of an environment when factory not out of an environment when you think of food as information first you think of food as information first you think of food as information first and energy second it begins to reorder and energy second it begins to reorder and energy second it begins to reorder what what you think about eating um what what you think about eating um what what you think about eating um strawberries are great you can get strawberries are great you can get strawberries are great you can get strawberries in Phoenix Arizona any day strawberries in Phoenix Arizona any day strawberries in Phoenix Arizona any day you want but where do they come from you want but where do they come from you want but where do they come from like strawberries they're not supposed like strawberries they're not supposed like strawberries they're not supposed to grow in the desert and so I'll eat my to grow in the desert and so I'll eat my to grow in the desert and so I'll eat my blueberries you there's a lot on blueberries you there's a lot on blueberries you there's a lot on Carnivore which sounds great but in the Carnivore which sounds great but in the Carnivore which sounds great but in the summer I'll eat the fruits and I love summer I'll eat the fruits and I love summer I'll eat the fruits and I love the apples and the fall because I'm the apples and the fall because I'm the apples and the fall because I'm trying to tell my body this is the trying to tell my body this is the trying to tell my body this is the season that we're in the days are longer season that we're in the days are longer season that we're in the days are longer now the carbohydrates are more more now the carbohydrates are more more now the carbohydrates are more more plentiful what are we going to do about
20:00plentiful what are we going to do about plentiful what are we going to do about that we're going to get some vitamin C that we're going to get some vitamin C that we're going to get some vitamin C we're going to get some vitamin D we're we're going to get some vitamin D we're we're going to get some vitamin D we're going to get out in the sunshine in the going to get out in the sunshine in the going to get out in the sunshine in the winter the days are shorter and it's winter the days are shorter and it's winter the days are shorter and it's colder vitamin D will be scarcer and my colder vitamin D will be scarcer and my colder vitamin D will be scarcer and my body prepares for that because body prepares for that because body prepares for that because everything in its environment if I'm everything in its environment if I'm everything in its environment if I'm doing it right and I don't always do it doing it right and I don't always do it doing it right and I don't always do it right everything in its environment is right everything in its environment is right everything in its environment is consistent with its signaling signaling so you're are you of the school of so you're are you of the school of so you're are you of the school of thought that thought that thought that we must eat what's in season for the we must eat what's in season for the we must eat what's in season for the region with which it within which we region with which it within which we region with which it within which we live that is that the best practice if live that is that the best practice if live that is that the best practice if at all possible well let's keep in mind at all possible well let's keep in mind at all possible well let's keep in mind that I'm not a that I'm not a that I'm not a bodybuilder um I'm not much of an bodybuilder um I'm not much of an bodybuilder um I'm not much of an athlete you know when you have a athlete you know when you have a athlete you know when you have a specific goal and it might be you want specific goal and it might be you want specific goal and it might be you want to cut down to single digit body fat to cut down to single digit body fat to cut down to single digit body fat because you're working on something because you're working on something because you're working on something maybe there's a competition or maybe maybe there's a competition or maybe maybe there's a competition or maybe you're an athlete preparing for a you're an athlete preparing for a you're an athlete preparing for a triathlon or something something um it triathlon or something something um it triathlon or something something um it is okay to say I'm doing my diet and my
21:00is okay to say I'm doing my diet and my is okay to say I'm doing my diet and my whole program is going to be focused on whole program is going to be focused on whole program is going to be focused on this type of perform I'm I'm not judging this type of perform I'm I'm not judging this type of perform I'm I'm not judging but that's not me you know I live this but that's not me you know I live this but that's not me you know I live this scholarly existence um I don't need to scholarly existence um I don't need to scholarly existence um I don't need to be at 6% body fat to teach my systems be at 6% body fat to teach my systems be at 6% body fat to teach my systems engineering class so I'm trying to live engineering class so I'm trying to live engineering class so I'm trying to live in a way where I feel productive and in a way where I feel productive and in a way where I feel productive and especially mentally sharp so how do I do especially mentally sharp so how do I do especially mentally sharp so how do I do it I think about where did my ancestors it I think about where did my ancestors it I think about where did my ancestors come from and what season are they in I come from and what season are they in I come from and what season are they in I know that our bodies are evolved to know that our bodies are evolved to know that our bodies are evolved to expect cold exposure great if I don't expect cold exposure great if I don't expect cold exposure great if I don't give it to my body I will get sick I give it to my body I will get sick I give it to my body I will get sick I know our bodies are evolved to expect know our bodies are evolved to expect know our bodies are evolved to expect Sunshine during the summer great if I Sunshine during the summer great if I Sunshine during the summer great if I don't give it to my body I will get sick don't give it to my body I will get sick don't give it to my body I will get sick so I don't I don't want to pay the so I don't I don't want to pay the so I don't I don't want to pay the penalty of kind of tricking my body I penalty of kind of tricking my body I penalty of kind of tricking my body I know that our bodies are evolved to stay know that our bodies are evolved to stay know that our bodies are evolved to stay grounded like in electrical contact with grounded like in electrical contact with grounded like in electrical contact with the earth I want to give my body the the earth I want to give my body the the earth I want to give my body the things that is is expecting so I can things that is is expecting so I can things that is is expecting so I can stay healthy there might be other people
22:00stay healthy there might be other people stay healthy there might be other people who are working on different goals than who are working on different goals than who are working on different goals than sort of this sort of this sort of this long-term uh longevity that I have in long-term uh longevity that I have in long-term uh longevity that I have in mind and I'm not judging anybody's goals mind and I'm not judging anybody's goals mind and I'm not judging anybody's goals yeah and to answer your question yeah yeah and to answer your question yeah yeah and to answer your question yeah for me the right thing is to think about for me the right thing is to think about for me the right thing is to think about what's in season and not so much from what's in season and not so much from what's in season and not so much from where I live I live in Phoenix I'm not where I live I live in Phoenix I'm not where I live I live in Phoenix I'm not pounding SK nuts you know into flow so I pounding SK nuts you know into flow so I pounding SK nuts you know into flow so I can Harvest prickly par cacti or can Harvest prickly par cacti or can Harvest prickly par cacti or something right um if I were Navajo that something right um if I were Navajo that something right um if I were Navajo that might be right for me but the fact is I might be right for me but the fact is I might be right for me but the fact is I don't live anywhere near where you know don't live anywhere near where you know don't live anywhere near where you know even my grandparents are from even my grandparents are from even my grandparents are from Maine well where am I going to get fish Maine well where am I going to get fish Maine well where am I going to get fish from the North Atlantic like my from the North Atlantic like my from the North Atlantic like my ancestors did fortunately in Phoenix I ancestors did fortunately in Phoenix I ancestors did fortunately in Phoenix I can fly in Lobster if you know that's can fly in Lobster if you know that's can fly in Lobster if you know that's really what I want I can put the fish in really what I want I can put the fish in really what I want I can put the fish in a can or something like that so I think a can or something like that so I think a can or something like that so I think in those terms in the winter I'm going in those terms in the winter I'm going in those terms in the winter I'm going to eat the potatoes not all the time but
23:00to eat the potatoes not all the time but to eat the potatoes not all the time but I'm going to eat those root vegetables I'm going to eat those root vegetables I'm going to eat those root vegetables and I'm going to eat the fish and things and I'm going to eat the fish and things and I'm going to eat the fish and things like in the summer I will eat more fruit like in the summer I will eat more fruit like in the summer I will eat more fruit got I I now stay away from bananas I got I I now stay away from bananas I got I I now stay away from bananas I just won't do them I mean they're just won't do them I mean they're just won't do them I mean they're delicious right yeah but I don't think delicious right yeah but I don't think delicious right yeah but I don't think they're any good for me okay a lot of they're any good for me okay a lot of they're any good for me okay a lot of people eat avocados and I've been people eat avocados and I've been people eat avocados and I've been thinking about that one I like an thinking about that one I like an thinking about that one I like an occasional avocado but I'm like Tom did occasional avocado but I'm like Tom did occasional avocado but I'm like Tom did Grandpa Seager eat avocado like is this Grandpa Seager eat avocado like is this Grandpa Seager eat avocado like is this what grandma made and um maybe this is what grandma made and um maybe this is what grandma made and um maybe this is just a story that I'm telling myself but just a story that I'm telling myself but just a story that I'm telling myself but I feel more in touch with whom I'm I feel more in touch with whom I'm I feel more in touch with whom I'm supposed to be when I eat like it yeah supposed to be when I eat like it yeah supposed to be when I eat like it yeah so giving the body what it expects it so giving the body what it expects it so giving the body what it expects it sounds like there's a there's a bigger sounds like there's a there's a bigger sounds like there's a there's a bigger list there what's on that what's on that list there what's on that what's on that list there what's on that what's on that make a sound bite out of that yeah give make a sound bite out of that yeah give make a sound bite out of that yeah give your body what your body is expecting your body what your body is expecting your body what your body is expecting and that ain't cocoa crisp you know with and that ain't cocoa crisp you know with and that ain't cocoa crisp you know with 2 milk like your grandma wasn't tie
24:002 milk like your grandma wasn't tie 2 milk like your grandma wasn't tie trading your breakfast you trading your breakfast you trading your breakfast you [Music] [Music] [Music] know so what what what what's all on know so what what what what's all on know so what what what what's all on that list when you when you give your that list when you when you give your that list when you when you give your body what it's expecting what I heard body what it's expecting what I heard body what it's expecting what I heard already was food that's in already was food that's in already was food that's in season and vitamin D what season and vitamin D what season and vitamin D what else when you've got the basics down and else when you've got the basics down and else when you've got the basics down and so what do I mean by the basics like you so what do I mean by the basics like you so what do I mean by the basics like you listen to a bunch of podcasts you listen to a bunch of podcasts you listen to a bunch of podcasts you understand um diet and exercise you understand um diet and exercise you understand um diet and exercise you understand sun exposure you pretty much understand sun exposure you pretty much understand sun exposure you pretty much got these things down and you don't have got these things down and you don't have got these things down and you don't have to spend a lot of time on Twitter or to spend a lot of time on Twitter or to spend a lot of time on Twitter or Instagram to figure out what people are Instagram to figure out what people are Instagram to figure out what people are trying you've gotten the seed oils trying you've gotten the seed oils trying you've gotten the seed oils pretty much out of your diet you've gone pretty much out of your diet you've gone pretty much out of your diet you've gone low carb if you're not like totally zero low carb if you're not like totally zero low carb if you're not like totally zero carbon every once in a while you fast so carbon every once in a while you fast so carbon every once in a while you fast so these are the basics now the question is these are the basics now the question is these are the basics now the question is what comes next I think a lot of people what comes next I think a lot of people what comes next I think a lot of people understand sunshine you got to get some understand sunshine you got to get some understand sunshine you got to get some sunshine they don't huberman's really sunshine they don't huberman's really sunshine they don't huberman's really good on this like hey you wake up in the good on this like hey you wake up in the good on this like hey you wake up in the morning get some sun you know through
25:00morning get some sun you know through morning get some sun you know through your eyes and so maybe we could put that your eyes and so maybe we could put that your eyes and so maybe we could put that in the basics but how many people in the basics but how many people in the basics but how many people understand you need to be grounded how understand you need to be grounded how understand you need to be grounded how many people you know I've got these many people you know I've got these many people you know I've got these grounding sheets I love grounding sheets I love grounding sheets I love them but a couple of times a day do you them but a couple of times a day do you them but a couple of times a day do you get in touch with the ground do you get in touch with the ground do you get in touch with the ground do you discharge that static electricity so discharge that static electricity so discharge that static electricity so grounding is a big one not enough people grounding is a big one not enough people grounding is a big one not enough people are doing cold and it doesn't take a lot are doing cold and it doesn't take a lot are doing cold and it doesn't take a lot of cold just rev up your brown fat if uh of cold just rev up your brown fat if uh of cold just rev up your brown fat if uh all you got is cold showers then get in all you got is cold showers then get in all you got is cold showers then get in there for a couple of minutes give your there for a couple of minutes give your there for a couple of minutes give your brown fat a little reminder that you're brown fat a little reminder that you're brown fat a little reminder that you're alive and here's one that I wish more alive and here's one that I wish more alive and here's one that I wish more men especially understood start donating men especially understood start donating men especially understood start donating blood the reason for that is there's no blood the reason for that is there's no blood the reason for that is there's no natural mechanism for a man to really natural mechanism for a man to really natural mechanism for a man to really get his iron levels down we excrete iron get his iron levels down we excrete iron get his iron levels down we excrete iron so slowly that pretty all all we do is so slowly that pretty all all we do is so slowly that pretty all all we do is accumulate iron accumulate iron accumulate iron accumulate iron accumulate iron accumulate iron accumulate iron the only way to get your accumulate iron the only way to get your accumulate iron the only way to get your iron levels down is to bleed it out
26:00iron levels down is to bleed it out iron levels down is to bleed it out there's a lot of iron in your blood and there's a lot of iron in your blood and there's a lot of iron in your blood and when you donate blood what do they say when you donate blood what do they say when you donate blood what do they say every three months by the way I hate every three months by the way I hate every three months by the way I hate doing this I've done it once in my life doing this I've done it once in my life doing this I've done it once in my life so I'm a hypocrite in this respect I so I'm a hypocrite in this respect I so I'm a hypocrite in this respect I will go again because the more I learn will go again because the more I learn will go again because the more I learn about iron and the way that elevated about iron and the way that elevated about iron and the way that elevated iron levels are associated with disease iron levels are associated with disease iron levels are associated with disease and aging the more I realize I gotta get and aging the more I realize I gotta get and aging the more I realize I gotta get back into that blood mobile and I gotta back into that blood mobile and I gotta back into that blood mobile and I gotta give another pint and it's okay it's a give another pint and it's okay it's a give another pint and it's okay it's a good thing I mean we talk about win-win good thing I mean we talk about win-win good thing I mean we talk about win-win it's good for my health and it's good it's good for my health and it's good it's good for my health and it's good for somebody else uh who needs that for somebody else uh who needs that for somebody else uh who needs that blood so where am I now um so we got blood so where am I now um so we got blood so where am I now um so we got seasonal single ingredient Fe food seasonal single ingredient Fe food seasonal single ingredient Fe food vitamin D and sunai yep getting vitamin D and sunai yep getting vitamin D and sunai yep getting grounded which I want to get into into a grounded which I want to get into into a grounded which I want to get into into a little more detail here in a second cold little more detail here in a second cold little more detail here in a second cold exposure to promote Brown fat and giving exposure to promote Brown fat and giving exposure to promote Brown fat and giving blood what else is on that blood what else is on that blood what else is on that list green and red light a lot of people list green and red light a lot of people list green and red light a lot of people understand about red light now they know understand about red light now they know understand about red light now they know that you're supposed to be getting your that you're supposed to be getting your that you're supposed to be getting your near infrared you're far infrared a lot
27:00near infrared you're far infrared a lot near infrared you're far infrared a lot of people who are paying attention of people who are paying attention of people who are paying attention understand the way it stimulates your understand the way it stimulates your understand the way it stimulates your mitochondria promotes wound healing mitochondria promotes wound healing mitochondria promotes wound healing reduces inflammation and so the red and reduces inflammation and so the red and reduces inflammation and so the red and infrared Spectrum people pretty much infrared Spectrum people pretty much infrared Spectrum people pretty much have this down um at least the ones who have this down um at least the ones who have this down um at least the ones who are you know Forward Thinking what are you know Forward Thinking what are you know Forward Thinking what nobody's talking about is green light nobody's talking about is green light nobody's talking about is green light there are two dominant wavelengths of there are two dominant wavelengths of there are two dominant wavelengths of light in the forest and when you think light in the forest and when you think light in the forest and when you think about the forest it doesn't really about the forest it doesn't really about the forest it doesn't really matter where you are on the earth matter where you are on the earth matter where you are on the earth scientists have gone all over the place scientists have gone all over the place scientists have gone all over the place Vermont Haiti you know Turkmenistan Vermont Haiti you know Turkmenistan Vermont Haiti you know Turkmenistan every single Forest is green because the every single Forest is green because the every single Forest is green because the leaves are green and that wavelength is leaves are green and that wavelength is leaves are green and that wavelength is around 540 nanometers the other dominant around 540 nanometers the other dominant around 540 nanometers the other dominant wavelength of light in the forest is wavelength of light in the forest is wavelength of light in the forest is near infrared the forest is made up of near infrared the forest is made up of near infrared the forest is made up of green and the invisible near infrared green and the invisible near infrared green and the invisible near infrared well there's a lot of history a lot of well there's a lot of history a lot of well there's a lot of history a lot of science on the practice of forest science on the practice of forest science on the practice of forest bathing you go out in the forest couple bathing you go out in the forest couple bathing you go out in the forest couple hours a week makes a huge difference in
28:00hours a week makes a huge difference in hours a week makes a huge difference in your rate of healing in your mood uh in your rate of healing in your mood uh in your rate of healing in your mood uh in your productivity well think kind of your productivity well think kind of your productivity well think kind of makes sense again you know was Grandpa makes sense again you know was Grandpa makes sense again you know was Grandpa ever out in the forest that's all they ever out in the forest that's all they ever out in the forest that's all they had you know of of course like we are had you know of of course like we are had you know of of course like we are ancestrally expecting these wavelengths ancestrally expecting these wavelengths ancestrally expecting these wavelengths of light green and near infrared because of light green and near infrared because of light green and near infrared because where would we where would our ancient where would we where would our ancient where would we where would our ancient ancestors have sought shelf shelter now ancestors have sought shelf shelter now ancestors have sought shelf shelter now this is just a story but it makes sense this is just a story but it makes sense this is just a story but it makes sense like hey go up in the trees when I was a like hey go up in the trees when I was a like hey go up in the trees when I was a kid man I love climbing trees there's kid man I love climbing trees there's kid man I love climbing trees there's something about the human existence something about the human existence something about the human existence which is built for the forest yeah even which is built for the forest yeah even which is built for the forest yeah even though it can be a dark scary you know though it can be a dark scary you know though it can be a dark scary you know Hansel and gredle type place there's a Hansel and gredle type place there's a Hansel and gredle type place there's a reason all those children are hanging reason all those children are hanging reason all those children are hanging out in the forest because that's where out in the forest because that's where out in the forest because that's where we live get that red and that green we live get that red and that green we live get that red and that green light so when you have the basics and light so when you have the basics and light so when you have the basics and you're looking for the more advanced you're looking for the more advanced you're looking for the more advanced things you're going to donate blood things you're going to donate blood things you're going to donate blood you're going to get grounded you're you're going to get grounded you're you're going to get grounded you're going to get some cold in your life and going to get some cold in your life and going to get some cold in your life and you're going to start doing green and
29:00you're going to start doing green and you're going to start doing green and red light so there are let's say a dozen red light so there are let's say a dozen red light so there are let's say a dozen companies where you can get the red companies where you can get the red companies where you can get the red light there are maybe three where you light there are maybe three where you light there are maybe three where you can get the green light and that's can get the green light and that's can get the green light and that's because huberman doesn't talk about that because huberman doesn't talk about that because huberman doesn't talk about that yet you know um Joe Rogan doesn't have yet you know um Joe Rogan doesn't have yet you know um Joe Rogan doesn't have anybody on to talk about green light for anybody on to talk about green light for anybody on to talk about green light for headaches or anxiety or something like headaches or anxiety or something like headaches or anxiety or something like that nobody goes to Google and says that nobody goes to Google and says that nobody goes to Google and says where do I get my green light going I where do I get my green light going I where do I get my green light going I think I think it's funny I think it's think I think it's funny I think it's think I think it's funny I think it's funny that you say that because we're funny that you say that because we're funny that you say that because we're gonna get into that uh put a pin in that gonna get into that uh put a pin in that gonna get into that uh put a pin in that really quick it's funny that you say really quick it's funny that you say really quick it's funny that you say that because I find myself when I'm in that because I find myself when I'm in that because I find myself when I'm in Arana the light that I have on most Arana the light that I have on most Arana the light that I have on most often is the green light You Are Not often is the green light You Are Not often is the green light You Are Not Alone um people you know they experiment Alone um people you know they experiment Alone um people you know they experiment and they say well okay what feels good A and they say well okay what feels good A and they say well okay what feels good A lot of people use the green setting and lot of people use the green setting and lot of people use the green setting and I'm seeing this on Instagram um more and I'm seeing this on Instagram um more and I'm seeing this on Instagram um more and more they're either accidentally or more they're either accidentally or more they're either accidentally or maybe I'm just seeing it because they maybe I'm just seeing it because they maybe I'm just seeing it because they follow me and they said hey seager's follow me and they said hey seager's follow me and they said hey seager's talking about Green Light it was complet
30:00talking about Green Light it was complet talking about Green Light it was complet completely unintentional I hadn't made completely unintentional I hadn't made completely unintentional I hadn't made any connection to it until just now in any connection to it until just now in any connection to it until just now in this conversation you are this conversation you are this conversation you are um I'm I'm glad you're noticing this um um I'm I'm glad you're noticing this um um I'm I'm glad you're noticing this um you're reminding me of a conversation you're reminding me of a conversation you're reminding me of a conversation that I had with a kid who was I call him that I had with a kid who was I call him that I had with a kid who was I call him a kid he's in his 20s now but when he a kid he's in his 20s now but when he a kid he's in his 20s now but when he was a teenager he was in a car crash was a teenager he was in a car crash was a teenager he was in a car crash traumatic brain injury he's suffered traumatic brain injury he's suffered traumatic brain injury he's suffered nine years of migraines there's some nine years of migraines there's some nine years of migraines there's some days he can't go to work you know he has days he can't go to work you know he has days he can't go to work you know he has four migraines a week he has estimates four migraines a week he has estimates four migraines a week he has estimates on average so he reached out and he said on average so he reached out and he said on average so he reached out and he said hey do you think your green light would hey do you think your green light would hey do you think your green light would help and I'm like look it it has helped help and I'm like look it it has helped help and I'm like look it it has helped a lot of people we're doing some a lot of people we're doing some a lot of people we're doing some clinical studies but I can't make any clinical studies but I can't make any clinical studies but I can't make any promises about you all I can do is say promises about you all I can do is say promises about you all I can do is say give it a try and if it doesn't work you give it a try and if it doesn't work you give it a try and if it doesn't work you get your money back you know he said all get your money back you know he said all get your money back you know he said all right he's an engineer um I hand right he's an engineer um I hand right he's an engineer um I hand delivered his green light because he delivered his green light because he delivered his green light because he lives in Phoenix I said okay you do it lives in Phoenix I said okay you do it lives in Phoenix I said okay you do it like this and you do it like that and like this and you do it like that and like this and you do it like that and will you you know 10 minutes a day just will you you know 10 minutes a day just will you you know 10 minutes a day just get yourself green so I got to text get yourself green so I got to text get yourself green so I got to text message from him he says you know when I
31:00message from him he says you know when I message from him he says you know when I get migraines I'm very get migraines I'm very get migraines I'm very photosensitive I'd already like my whole photosensitive I'd already like my whole photosensitive I'd already like my whole bedroom my bathroom and everything I bedroom my bathroom and everything I bedroom my bathroom and everything I tried every different color that I could tried every different color that I could tried every different color that I could I took out all my light bulbs and I put I took out all my light bulbs and I put I took out all my light bulbs and I put green I live in green light now and I'd green I live in green light now and I'd green I live in green light now and I'd never made the connection that maybe never made the connection that maybe never made the connection that maybe there was like a device that the green there was like a device that the green there was like a device that the green is more comfortable for me because I'm is more comfortable for me because I'm is more comfortable for me because I'm so photosensitive maybe there's a device so photosensitive maybe there's a device so photosensitive maybe there's a device that could help so I'll try this one out that could help so I'll try this one out that could help so I'll try this one out two weeks later he says when I do green two weeks later he says when I do green two weeks later he says when I do green light and medication it takes my light and medication it takes my light and medication it takes my migraine pain to zero when I don't have migraine pain to zero when I don't have migraine pain to zero when I don't have my meds and I just use the green light my meds and I just use the green light my meds and I just use the green light I'm going like scale of one to 10 I'm I'm going like scale of one to 10 I'm I'm going like scale of one to 10 I'm going like two and for him that feels going like two and for him that feels going like two and for him that feels like a miracal because he was at like an like a miracal because he was at like an like a miracal because he was at like an eight and those are the kind of clinical eight and those are the kind of clinical eight and those are the kind of clinical reports that I'm getting whether it's reports that I'm getting whether it's reports that I'm getting whether it's postconcussion traumatic brain injury um postconcussion traumatic brain injury um postconcussion traumatic brain injury um stress headache sinus headache or any stress headache sinus headache or any stress headache sinus headache or any other kind of migraine I'm getting other kind of migraine I'm getting other kind of migraine I'm getting really good results from the green light
32:00really good results from the green light really good results from the green light so tell me about the so tell me about the so tell me about the company uh you can go online my green company uh you can go online my green company uh you can go online my green lamp.com it's kind of a play on words lamp.com it's kind of a play on words lamp.com it's kind of a play on words but Google hates it like nobody searches but Google hates it like nobody searches but Google hates it like nobody searches for this you know and so if you're like for this you know and so if you're like for this you know and so if you're like you know Green Light Mig greens you're you know Green Light Mig greens you're you know Green Light Mig greens you're not going to find me you got to type out not going to find me you got to type out not going to find me you got to type out the whole thing Mig green lamp.com you the whole thing Mig green lamp.com you the whole thing Mig green lamp.com you can buy there's two of them the goggles can buy there's two of them the goggles can buy there's two of them the goggles and what I call the and what I call the and what I call the lantern the lantern looks like this it's lantern the lantern looks like this it's lantern the lantern looks like this it's honestly it's a red light but with green honestly it's a red light but with green honestly it's a red light but with green coming out instead of red right and coming out instead of red right and coming out instead of red right and um I thought that when we I prototyped um I thought that when we I prototyped um I thought that when we I prototyped this with Mido red light in Scottdale this with Mido red light in Scottdale this with Mido red light in Scottdale Scott sh is a friend and I was reading Scott sh is a friend and I was reading Scott sh is a friend and I was reading about green and I'm like hey couldn't about green and I'm like hey couldn't about green and I'm like hey couldn't you make one so he contacted his you make one so he contacted his you make one so he contacted his manufacturer and he's like yeah you know manufacturer and he's like yeah you know manufacturer and he's like yeah you know we we'll get you a couple up here he we we'll get you a couple up here he we we'll get you a couple up here he called me when the first one came in and called me when the first one came in and called me when the first one came in and he said Thomas is garbage Scott what's he said Thomas is garbage Scott what's he said Thomas is garbage Scott what's wrong he goes wrong he goes wrong he goes it's way too bright he goes if if you
33:00it's way too bright he goes if if you it's way too bright he goes if if you don't have a headache this is going to don't have a headache this is going to don't have a headache this is going to give you one you give you one you give you one you know I can't stand it and um I thought know I can't stand it and um I thought know I can't stand it and um I thought well you know that's great Scott but I I well you know that's great Scott but I I well you know that's great Scott but I I gotta check it out for myself anyway gotta check it out for myself anyway gotta check it out for myself anyway right I gotta see this maybe we can fix right I gotta see this maybe we can fix right I gotta see this maybe we can fix it I mean we can do something so I drove it I mean we can do something so I drove it I mean we can do something so I drove out there with ajk she's on Twitter she out there with ajk she's on Twitter she out there with ajk she's on Twitter she gets a lot of headaches and uh we're gets a lot of headaches and uh we're gets a lot of headaches and uh we're together CU we're dating and we're together CU we're dating and we're together CU we're dating and we're sitting in his Scott's office and I'm sitting in his Scott's office and I'm sitting in his Scott's office and I'm like oh this is terrible you're right like oh this is terrible you're right like oh this is terrible you're right Scott she says let me see that I go okay Scott she says let me see that I go okay Scott she says let me see that I go okay hun she takes it and she puts it right hun she takes it and she puts it right hun she takes it and she puts it right here and she closes her eyes and she here and she closes her eyes and she here and she closes her eyes and she says this feels really good she's got it says this feels really good she's got it says this feels really good she's got it on maximum intensity right up against on maximum intensity right up against on maximum intensity right up against her face and then it hit me it you got her face and then it hit me it you got her face and then it hit me it you got to shut out all the other wavelengths in to shut out all the other wavelengths in to shut out all the other wavelengths in the studies at Harvard and University of the studies at Harvard and University of the studies at Harvard and University of Arizona they had people open their eyes Arizona they had people open their eyes Arizona they had people open their eyes so the green would get in but they put so the green would get in but they put so the green would get in but they put him in like a dark closet or something him in like a dark closet or something him in like a dark closet or something they said right just hang out here for they said right just hang out here for they said right just hang out here for an hour only green light and you know
34:00an hour only green light and you know an hour only green light and you know and eventually the green will take and eventually the green will take and eventually the green will take effect here's what she invented AJ's effect here's what she invented AJ's effect here's what she invented AJ's like close your eyes okay now all the like close your eyes okay now all the like close your eyes okay now all the other wavelengths are gone and then when other wavelengths are gone and then when other wavelengths are gone and then when you have just the green and it's strong you have just the green and it's strong you have just the green and it's strong enough to go through your eyelids yeah enough to go through your eyelids yeah enough to go through your eyelids yeah then she's like you've done it the then she's like you've done it the then she's like you've done it the problem is that the research studies the problem is that the research studies the problem is that the research studies the green light was so soft and so gentle green light was so soft and so gentle green light was so soft and so gentle because they didn't want to overwhelm because they didn't want to overwhelm because they didn't want to overwhelm any body you had to keep your eyes open any body you had to keep your eyes open any body you had to keep your eyes open and I turn to Scott and I'm like Scott I and I turn to Scott and I'm like Scott I and I turn to Scott and I'm like Scott I think we just invented the world's first think we just invented the world's first think we just invented the world's first green light that is powerful enough to green light that is powerful enough to green light that is powerful enough to work through closed eyelids and so we work through closed eyelids and so we work through closed eyelids and so we went to went to went to Market well AJ she had a headache 4:30 Market well AJ she had a headache 4:30 Market well AJ she had a headache 4:30 in the morning and she's dying she can't in the morning and she's dying she can't in the morning and she's dying she can't sleep um so she goes to the green 20 sleep um so she goes to the green 20 sleep um so she goes to the green 20 minutes of green light headache's gone minutes of green light headache's gone minutes of green light headache's gone and that has been happening over and and that has been happening over and and that has been happening over and over and over again which is exactly over and over again which is exactly over and over again which is exactly what Harvard said should be having which what Harvard said should be having which what Harvard said should be having which is all the competing products are made
35:00is all the competing products are made is all the competing products are made gentle just like the research studies gentle just like the research studies gentle just like the research studies say and I come out with this thing say and I come out with this thing say and I come out with this thing there's nothing gentle about this like there's nothing gentle about this like there's nothing gentle about this like it hits you hard with the green you know it hits you hard with the green you know it hits you hard with the green you know it's counterintuitive you're like why it's counterintuitive you're like why it's counterintuitive you're like why are you putting so much bright light on are you putting so much bright light on are you putting so much bright light on someone who's already photosensitive and someone who's already photosensitive and someone who's already photosensitive and if I didn't have AJ if I didn't have a if I didn't have AJ if I didn't have a if I didn't have AJ if I didn't have a patient to develop I never would have patient to develop I never would have patient to develop I never would have brought this to market the reason we're brought this to market the reason we're brought this to market the reason we're doing it is you can close your eyes so doing it is you can close your eyes so doing it is you can close your eyes so the only headache the only headache the only headache that I can't touch I call it a high that I can't touch I call it a high that I can't touch I call it a high estrogen headache it's a uh woman estrogen headache it's a uh woman estrogen headache it's a uh woman usually uh later in life maybe per usually uh later in life maybe per usually uh later in life maybe per menopausal and she's at a certain point menopausal and she's at a certain point menopausal and she's at a certain point in her cycle where her estrogen is in her cycle where her estrogen is in her cycle where her estrogen is elevated and it's given her a headache elevated and it's given her a headache elevated and it's given her a headache and green can't cut through it every and green can't cut through it every and green can't cut through it every other headache um I'm getting really other headache um I'm getting really other headache um I'm getting really good responses from people what this good responses from people what this good responses from people what this tells me is I mean I live in Phoenix tells me is I mean I live in Phoenix tells me is I mean I live in Phoenix what am I supposed to do get into the what am I supposed to do get into the what am I supposed to do get into the cacti like right there's no for there's cacti like right there's no for there's cacti like right there's no for there's no Forest anywhere yeah I'm I'm missing no Forest anywhere yeah I'm I'm missing no Forest anywhere yeah I'm I'm missing something in my life and it's maybe up
36:00something in my life and it's maybe up something in my life and it's maybe up in Flagstaff or up in PAC but it ain't in Flagstaff or up in PAC but it ain't in Flagstaff or up in PAC but it ain't in the city yeah I need some green so in the city yeah I need some green so in the city yeah I need some green so now uh you know the days are still now uh you know the days are still now uh you know the days are still pretty short we're here in February and pretty short we're here in February and pretty short we're here in February and um instead of turning on the bright um instead of turning on the bright um instead of turning on the bright lights in the morning I turn this on I lights in the morning I turn this on I lights in the morning I turn this on I pointed at the wall yeah I so I'm going pointed at the wall yeah I so I'm going pointed at the wall yeah I so I'm going indirect green that's how I start my day indirect green that's how I start my day indirect green that's how I start my day uh because it's relaxing it's easier on uh because it's relaxing it's easier on uh because it's relaxing it's easier on my eyes nice no you're right nobody my eyes nice no you're right nobody my eyes nice no you're right nobody nobody's talking about Green nobody's nobody's talking about Green nobody's nobody's talking about Green nobody's talking about Green well you and I are talking about Green well you and I are talking about Green well you and I are talking about Green I got I got to get talking about Green I got I got to get talking about Green I got I got to get you up here uh we're we're in South you up here uh we're we're in South you up here uh we're we're in South Scott I got get you up here to to HQ and Scott I got get you up here to to HQ and Scott I got get you up here to to HQ and and check out our operation absolutely and check out our operation absolutely and check out our operation absolutely yeah I'll bring you light oh wonderful yeah I'll bring you light oh wonderful yeah I'll bring you light oh wonderful thank you there's definitely a place to thank you there's definitely a place to thank you there's definitely a place to to integrate that that green light in to integrate that that green light in to integrate that that green light in our red light room for sure that that'd our red light room for sure that that'd our red light room for sure that that'd be amazing there's a way to do it Jeremy be amazing there's a way to do it Jeremy be amazing there's a way to do it Jeremy mutic is over in Mesa he runs a place mutic is over in Mesa he runs a place mutic is over in Mesa he runs a place called reconnect and he got a couple of called reconnect and he got a couple of called reconnect and he got a couple of Mito panels to create a um red light
37:00Mito panels to create a um red light Mito panels to create a um red light room so he took the green and he mounted room so he took the green and he mounted room so he took the green and he mounted it on like you know an arm and so you it on like you know an arm and so you it on like you know an arm and so you can do red light over your whole body can do red light over your whole body can do red light over your whole body and just do green right here dude I and just do green right here dude I and just do green right here dude I got this week we're gonna make this got this week we're gonna make this got this week we're gonna make this happen good done deal all right yeah I happen good done deal all right yeah I happen good done deal all right yeah I like it for sure for sure for sure so uh like it for sure for sure for sure so uh like it for sure for sure for sure so uh I want to back up to getting grounded I I want to back up to getting grounded I I want to back up to getting grounded I I saw that you just you just put out an I saw that you just you just put out an I saw that you just you just put out an article uh I think it came to me in a article uh I think it came to me in a article uh I think it came to me in a newsletter I think I definitely saw it newsletter I think I definitely saw it newsletter I think I definitely saw it on on on on on on Instagram and I remember very very Instagram and I remember very very Instagram and I remember very very specifically when uh my last specifically when uh my last specifically when uh my last buo experience with buo experience with buo experience with psychedelics the first thing when our uh psychedelics the first thing when our uh psychedelics the first thing when our uh facilitation was over he made me go facilitation was over he made me go facilitation was over he made me go outside barefoot and stand in the grass outside barefoot and stand in the grass outside barefoot and stand in the grass and I'm noticing this in conversation
38:00and I'm noticing this in conversation and I'm noticing this in conversation with facilitators of literally every with facilitators of literally every with facilitators of literally every kind especially on the naturopathic end kind especially on the naturopathic end kind especially on the naturopathic end of the of the of the spectrum becoming more and more verbal spectrum becoming more and more verbal spectrum becoming more and more verbal explicit advocates for grounding talk to explicit advocates for grounding talk to explicit advocates for grounding talk to me there is no substitute for grounding me there is no substitute for grounding me there is no substitute for grounding you cannot exercise your way out of you cannot exercise your way out of you cannot exercise your way out of grounding like you can't do more reps to grounding like you can't do more reps to grounding like you can't do more reps to compensate the fact that you're not compensate the fact that you're not compensate the fact that you're not grounded there's no supplement you can grounded there's no supplement you can grounded there's no supplement you can take that will compensate for the fact take that will compensate for the fact take that will compensate for the fact that you're not grounded and I'm just that you're not grounded and I'm just that you're not grounded and I'm just quoting somebody that you know had this quoting somebody that you know had this quoting somebody that you know had this great line on Instagram there's no great line on Instagram there's no great line on Instagram there's no substitute for grounding and I'm like substitute for grounding and I'm like substitute for grounding and I'm like I'm telling the whole world that because I'm telling the whole world that because I'm telling the whole world that because that is a great concise way of doing it that is a great concise way of doing it that is a great concise way of doing it we are meant to be in electrical contact we are meant to be in electrical contact we are meant to be in electrical contact with the Earth and when we're in our with the Earth and when we're in our with the Earth and when we're in our cars with our you know rubber tires and cars with our you know rubber tires and cars with our you know rubber tires and we got our carpets and I live up on the we got our carpets and I live up on the we got our carpets and I live up on the 32nd Floor for going to Sak I'm about as 32nd Floor for going to Sak I'm about as 32nd Floor for going to Sak I'm about as far removed from the earth as you can far removed from the earth as you can
39:00far removed from the earth as you can get but the morasco is grounded the best get but the morasco is grounded the best get but the morasco is grounded the best way to get your grounding is to get in way to get your grounding is to get in way to get your grounding is to get in the ocean the second best way get in the the ocean the second best way get in the the ocean the second best way get in the Stream the lake the fresh water you know Stream the lake the fresh water you know Stream the lake the fresh water you know and the third best way get in your and the third best way get in your and the third best way get in your Morosco because it is connected through Morosco because it is connected through Morosco because it is connected through the grounding wire that powers it the grounding wire that powers it the grounding wire that powers it straight into the Earth and I didn't straight into the Earth and I didn't straight into the Earth and I didn't even know this like we knew that we even know this like we knew that we even know this like we knew that we wanted morasco grounded for safety so wanted morasco grounded for safety so wanted morasco grounded for safety so Jason and I are like oh we got to have a Jason and I are like oh we got to have a Jason and I are like oh we got to have a GFCI in there and this was a concern GFCI in there and this was a concern GFCI in there and this was a concern that people had because of YouTube or that people had because of YouTube or that people had because of YouTube or something they were like should I unplug something they were like should I unplug something they were like should I unplug it you know before I get in and it kind it you know before I get in and it kind it you know before I get in and it kind of makes sense electricity water people of makes sense electricity water people of makes sense electricity water people have concerns we're going to ground this have concerns we're going to ground this have concerns we're going to ground this thing right and then we got a message thing right and then we got a message thing right and then we got a message from Ben Greenfield he had Brian Hoyer from Ben Greenfield he had Brian Hoyer from Ben Greenfield he had Brian Hoyer who runs an outfit called shielded who runs an outfit called shielded who runs an outfit called shielded healing come out Brian bought his volt healing come out Brian bought his volt healing come out Brian bought his volt meters and he's checking morasco all meters and he's checking morasco all meters and he's checking morasco all over and the message from Ben's like did over and the message from Ben's like did over and the message from Ben's like did you know that moras is 20 times more you know that moras is 20 times more you know that moras is 20 times more effective than Barefoot in the grass for
40:00effective than Barefoot in the grass for effective than Barefoot in the grass for grounding your body shut up I'm like grounding your body shut up I'm like grounding your body shut up I'm like what I look that stuff up you're like what I look that stuff up you're like what I look that stuff up you're like well you know what's this all about when well you know what's this all about when well you know what's this all about when we designed it we were grounding for we designed it we were grounding for we designed it we were grounding for safety it turns out that there's this safety it turns out that there's this safety it turns out that there's this huge health benefit just from grounding huge health benefit just from grounding huge health benefit just from grounding for for for wellness now the safety thing is still wellness now the safety thing is still wellness now the safety thing is still important obviously once you start important obviously once you start important obviously once you start reading about grounding you're like reading about grounding you're like reading about grounding you're like reduces inflammation promotes healing reduces inflammation promotes healing reduces inflammation promotes healing and wound repair right and in particular and wound repair right and in particular and wound repair right and in particular it reduces the tendency of the blood it reduces the tendency of the blood it reduces the tendency of the blood cells to coagulate now this gets a cells to coagulate now this gets a cells to coagulate now this gets a little like esoteric when I was in grad little like esoteric when I was in grad little like esoteric when I was in grad school we studied something called Zeta school we studied something called Zeta school we studied something called Zeta potential around every colloidal potential around every colloidal potential around every colloidal particle in the water there is a charge particle in the water there is a charge particle in the water there is a charge sphere and you can control the size of sphere and you can control the size of sphere and you can control the size of that charge sphere so that the colloidal that charge sphere so that the colloidal that charge sphere so that the colloidal particles either Aggregate and particles either Aggregate and particles either Aggregate and precipitate out or they stay dispersed precipitate out or they stay dispersed precipitate out or they stay dispersed dirty water they stay dispersed and so dirty water they stay dispersed and so dirty water they stay dispersed and so at Wastewater treat or sorry at water at Wastewater treat or sorry at water at Wastewater treat or sorry at water treatment plants they add something treatment plants they add something treatment plants they add something called Alum aluminum sulfate and the
41:00called Alum aluminum sulfate and the called Alum aluminum sulfate and the aluminum sulfate suppresses that changes aluminum sulfate suppresses that changes aluminum sulfate suppresses that changes The Zeta potential so that that The Zeta potential so that that The Zeta potential so that that electrical field around each one of the electrical field around each one of the electrical field around each one of the little tiny particles gets um shrunk little tiny particles gets um shrunk little tiny particles gets um shrunk they Ag glomerate and then they fall out they Ag glomerate and then they fall out they Ag glomerate and then they fall out of solution so you can treat the water of solution so you can treat the water of solution so you can treat the water the downside is it leaves some aluminum the downside is it leaves some aluminum the downside is it leaves some aluminum in your water which is not good so I in your water which is not good so I in your water which is not good so I know all this from water know all this from water know all this from water treatment the same thing happens with treatment the same thing happens with treatment the same thing happens with our red blood cells when you are not our red blood cells when you are not our red blood cells when you are not grounded The Zeta potential around the grounded The Zeta potential around the grounded The Zeta potential around the red blood cells shrinks causes the red red blood cells shrinks causes the red red blood cells shrinks causes the red blood or allows the red blood cells to blood or allows the red blood cells to blood or allows the red blood cells to get close enough together where they get close enough together where they get close enough together where they agglomerate this increases the viscosity agglomerate this increases the viscosity agglomerate this increases the viscosity of the blood makes you more prone to a of the blood makes you more prone to a of the blood makes you more prone to a blood clot you get a clog because your blood clot you get a clog because your blood clot you get a clog because your red blood cells have the wrong charge red blood cells have the wrong charge red blood cells have the wrong charge and they've stuck themselves together and they've stuck themselves together and they've stuck themselves together now it's a stroke now it's a heart now it's a stroke now it's a heart now it's a stroke now it's a heart attack now it's deep vein attack now it's deep vein attack now it's deep vein thrombosis and it was very difficult to thrombosis and it was very difficult to thrombosis and it was very difficult to explain to people because I'm talking explain to people because I'm talking explain to people because I'm talking about Zeta potential and crap like that about Zeta potential and crap like that about Zeta potential and crap like that until a scientist at ASU she goes by at
42:00until a scientist at ASU she goes by at until a scientist at ASU she goes by at least I've never met her I think she's least I've never met her I think she's least I've never met her I think she's at ASU but she goes by Jessica genetics at ASU but she goes by Jessica genetics at ASU but she goes by Jessica genetics online and she sells hair care products online and she sells hair care products online and she sells hair care products you know but she works in the lab and you know but she works in the lab and you know but she works in the lab and she figured out how to prick her finger she figured out how to prick her finger she figured out how to prick her finger put her blood under the microscope and put her blood under the microscope and put her blood under the microscope and you have to prepare the sample correctly you have to prepare the sample correctly you have to prepare the sample correctly so you can view it and take a picture so you can view it and take a picture so you can view it and take a picture she sees the blood is all agglomerated she sees the blood is all agglomerated she sees the blood is all agglomerated and she goes outside she walks around on and she goes outside she walks around on and she goes outside she walks around on the grass for half an hour she comes the grass for half an hour she comes the grass for half an hour she comes back in she pricks her finger she does back in she pricks her finger she does back in she pricks her finger she does another sample and you can see the blood another sample and you can see the blood another sample and you can see the blood cells are dispersed so she put this up cells are dispersed so she put this up cells are dispersed so she put this up on Instagram I'm like whoever you are on Instagram I'm like whoever you are on Instagram I'm like whoever you are Jessica Janea like this is fantastic I Jessica Janea like this is fantastic I Jessica Janea like this is fantastic I want to interview you instead I just want to interview you instead I just want to interview you instead I just reposted you know these pictures here's reposted you know these pictures here's reposted you know these pictures here's your blood when you're not grounded and your blood when you're not grounded and your blood when you're not grounded and now I don't have to explain water now I don't have to explain water now I don't have to explain water chemistry chemistry chemistry I don't have to explain any just like I don't have to explain any just like I don't have to explain any just like here's the pictures she took side by
43:00here's the pictures she took side by here's the pictures she took side by side do you want blood that looks like side do you want blood that looks like side do you want blood that looks like this or do you want blood that looks this or do you want blood that looks this or do you want blood that looks like this yeah she did it outside half like this yeah she did it outside half like this yeah she did it outside half an hour in the grass I can do that for an hour in the grass I can do that for an hour in the grass I can do that for you in less than two minutes in a you in less than two minutes in a you in less than two minutes in a Morosco and as much as I like walking Morosco and as much as I like walking Morosco and as much as I like walking around in the grass yeah like two around in the grass yeah like two around in the grass yeah like two minutes sounds good for me Brian Hoyer minutes sounds good for me Brian Hoyer minutes sounds good for me Brian Hoyer uh then he went to Luke story's backyard uh then he went to Luke story's backyard uh then he went to Luke story's backyard Luke has a morasco as well and he did it Luke has a morasco as well and he did it Luke has a morasco as well and he did it like with the body not just um the HB or like with the body not just um the HB or like with the body not just um the HB or the water but we put a video up that he the water but we put a video up that he the water but we put a video up that he made for us of showing here's what made for us of showing here's what made for us of showing here's what happens to my body when I put just one happens to my body when I put just one happens to my body when I put just one hand in and you can see on his meter how hand in and you can see on his meter how hand in and you can see on his meter how much better the electron flow is so much better the electron flow is so much better the electron flow is so we're the only one out there that we're the only one out there that we're the only one out there that Morosco is the only ice bath or cold Morosco is the only ice bath or cold Morosco is the only ice bath or cold plunge that is thirdparty certified by plunge that is thirdparty certified by plunge that is thirdparty certified by Brian Hoyer for goodness sakes to Brian Hoyer for goodness sakes to Brian Hoyer for goodness sakes to provide that grounding benefit you say provide that grounding benefit you say provide that grounding benefit you say well can't any ice bath or cold plung do well can't any ice bath or cold plung do well can't any ice bath or cold plung do that and the answer is no if you have that and the answer is no if you have that and the answer is no if you have like one one of those inflatable Kitty like one one of those inflatable Kitty like one one of those inflatable Kitty pools you're not getting grounded if you
44:00pools you're not getting grounded if you pools you're not getting grounded if you have like an acrylic bathtub or made of have like an acrylic bathtub or made of have like an acrylic bathtub or made of plastic or fiberglass because or a chest plastic or fiberglass because or a chest plastic or fiberglass because or a chest freezer if we're GNA say you're not freezer if we're GNA say you're not freezer if we're GNA say you're not grounded now you might be able to DIY a grounded now you might be able to DIY a grounded now you might be able to DIY a grounding rod but the Morosco is an all grounding rod but the Morosco is an all grounding rod but the Morosco is an all metal tub and the metal tub is metal tub and the metal tub is metal tub and the metal tub is electrically connected to the Earth so electrically connected to the Earth so electrically connected to the Earth so you can get this grounding benefit at you can get this grounding benefit at you can get this grounding benefit at the same time you're getting your cold the same time you're getting your cold the same time you're getting your cold on holy and you this so don't give away any Trade Secrets but don't give away any Trade Secrets but I'm I'm fascinated right now what was I'm I'm fascinated right now what was I'm I'm fascinated right now what was the the the necessity in the design that created necessity in the design that created necessity in the design that created this serendipitous grounding this serendipitous grounding this serendipitous grounding solution uh we needed ice and we might solution uh we needed ice and we might solution uh we needed ice and we might be the only guys in the world at the be the only guys in the world at the be the only guys in the world at the time who felt like they needed ice cuz time who felt like they needed ice cuz time who felt like they needed ice cuz um there were cold tub was a company you um there were cold tub was a company you um there were cold tub was a company you could buy like a modified hot tub with a could buy like a modified hot tub with a could buy like a modified hot tub with a chiller in it to get cold but Jason and
45:00chiller in it to get cold but Jason and chiller in it to get cold but Jason and I were like no um if I don't see ice I were like no um if I don't see ice I were like no um if I don't see ice floating in it then it's not an ice bath floating in it then it's not an ice bath floating in it then it's not an ice bath you know and so our challenge was we you know and so our challenge was we you know and so our challenge was we wanted to make ice now to make ice wanted to make ice now to make ice wanted to make ice now to make ice you've got to bring the cold to the you've got to bring the cold to the you've got to bring the cold to the water the way the chillers work is they water the way the chillers work is they water the way the chillers work is they take the water out of the tub and they take the water out of the tub and they take the water out of the tub and they circulated through a chiller there's a circulated through a chiller there's a circulated through a chiller there's a heat exchanger in there the heat heat exchanger in there the heat heat exchanger in there the heat exchanger is made out of aluminum which exchanger is made out of aluminum which exchanger is made out of aluminum which is a wonderful metal for heat exchange is a wonderful metal for heat exchange is a wonderful metal for heat exchange but not a good metal for your body so but not a good metal for your body so but not a good metal for your body so they circulate the water through the they circulate the water through the they circulate the water through the heat exchanger and then they put it back heat exchanger and then they put it back heat exchanger and then they put it back in the tub you can't pump ice so to make in the tub you can't pump ice so to make in the tub you can't pump ice so to make ice you got to bring the cold to the ice ice you got to bring the cold to the ice ice you got to bring the cold to the ice so we have these copper coils and you so we have these copper coils and you so we have these copper coils and you know we built our own refrigeration unit know we built our own refrigeration unit know we built our own refrigeration unit you know what one of the best conductors you know what one of the best conductors you know what one of the best conductors of electricity is copper we used a metal of electricity is copper we used a metal of electricity is copper we used a metal tub that's attached to Copper coils that tub that's attached to Copper coils that tub that's attached to Copper coils that is attached to a compressor that is attached to a compressor that is attached to a compressor that compress compressor runs on electricity compress compressor runs on electricity compress compressor runs on electricity that electricity is grounded because that electricity is grounded because that electricity is grounded because it's got to be right and so you can
46:00it's got to be right and so you can it's got to be right and so you can trace the electrical chain from the trace the electrical chain from the trace the electrical chain from the water through the tub through the copper water through the tub through the copper water through the tub through the copper through the compressor right back to through the compressor right back to through the compressor right back to your house and it's been a couple of your house and it's been a couple of your house and it's been a couple of times we got a call from one of our times we got a call from one of our times we got a call from one of our early adopters and he said there's early adopters and he said there's early adopters and he said there's something wrong something wrong with something wrong something wrong with something wrong something wrong with your morasco you better get out here your morasco you better get out here your morasco you better get out here because I'm feeling electricity like I because I'm feeling electricity like I because I'm feeling electricity like I put my hand on that tub and I'm you know put my hand on that tub and I'm you know put my hand on that tub and I'm you know I'm feeling it I I got that thing I'm feeling it I I got that thing I'm feeling it I I got that thing unplugged you better fix this and we unplugged you better fix this and we unplugged you better fix this and we came out and we couldn't find anything came out and we couldn't find anything came out and we couldn't find anything wrong with Mor like oh I don't know and wrong with Mor like oh I don't know and wrong with Mor like oh I don't know and he's like um and we looked at the he's like um and we looked at the he's like um and we looked at the electrical outlet and we said have you electrical outlet and we said have you electrical outlet and we said have you had some work done he goes yeah you know had some work done he goes yeah you know had some work done he goes yeah you know I put in electrical outlet so you know I I put in electrical outlet so you know I I put in electrical outlet so you know I would have on my porch because that's would have on my porch because that's would have on my porch because that's where I wanted I said who did that for where I wanted I said who did that for where I wanted I said who did that for you oh I got a buddy wait a minute did you oh I got a buddy wait a minute did you oh I got a buddy wait a minute did you have that electrical outlet put in you have that electrical outlet put in you have that electrical outlet put in by like a certified licensed electric no by like a certified licensed electric no by like a certified licensed electric no no no my buddy put it in and we stick an no no my buddy put it in and we stick an no no my buddy put it in and we stick an indicator in there and like your buddy indicator in there and like your buddy indicator in there and like your buddy did it wrong you know you're know you're welcome another customer this one was in welcome another customer this one was in welcome another customer this one was in South Carolina and it's same thing he South Carolina and it's same thing he South Carolina and it's same thing he said you better come fix your unit
47:00said you better come fix your unit said you better come fix your unit because I'm feeling electricity we been because I'm feeling electricity we been because I'm feeling electricity we been a repair Tech out there couldn't find a repair Tech out there couldn't find a repair Tech out there couldn't find what was wrong with the Morosco put the what was wrong with the Morosco put the what was wrong with the Morosco put the indicator thing in there and we're like indicator thing in there and we're like indicator thing in there and we're like I don't know what's happening um and I I don't know what's happening um and I I don't know what's happening um and I was like all right we're gonna swap out was like all right we're gonna swap out was like all right we're gonna swap out their morasco because something clearly their morasco because something clearly their morasco because something clearly isn't right and Jason's like no Mike is isn't right and Jason's like no Mike is isn't right and Jason's like no Mike is gonna stay in South Carolina until he gonna stay in South Carolina until he gonna stay in South Carolina until he figures this out there has to be a figures this out there has to be a figures this out there has to be a solution yeah they called like a solution yeah they called like a solution yeah they called like a certified electrician he went through certified electrician he went through certified electrician he went through the whole thing couldn't find anything the whole thing couldn't find anything the whole thing couldn't find anything wrong traced it all the way back to the wrong traced it all the way back to the wrong traced it all the way back to the panel couldn't find anything wrong he panel couldn't find anything wrong he panel couldn't find anything wrong he comes up to Mike after hours of this he comes up to Mike after hours of this he comes up to Mike after hours of this he goes the problem is in the Transformer goes the problem is in the Transformer goes the problem is in the Transformer that the power company owns at the that the power company owns at the that the power company owns at the street it is leaking electricity into street it is leaking electricity into street it is leaking electricity into the neutral line and Mike's like what the neutral line and Mike's like what the neutral line and Mike's like what the I you know I can't fix that the the I you know I can't fix that the the I you know I can't fix that the electrician goes I can't fix it either electrician goes I can't fix it either electrician goes I can't fix it either like we're not even allowed I'm calling like we're not even allowed I'm calling like we're not even allowed I'm calling the power company right now and I'm the power company right now and I'm the power company right now and I'm telling them they got a problem power telling them they got a problem power telling them they got a problem power company came out like that afternoon company came out like that afternoon company came out like that afternoon swapped out the transformer in the swapped out the transformer in the swapped out the transformer in the street and boom all of a sudden the
48:00street and boom all of a sudden the street and boom all of a sudden the morasco is fine this thing is like an morasco is fine this thing is like an morasco is fine this thing is like an electrical fault detector for the wiring electrical fault detector for the wiring electrical fault detector for the wiring in your house and I'm not saying that we in your house and I'm not saying that we in your house and I'm not saying that we do a great job with everything that we do a great job with everything that we do a great job with everything that we do at we've had water pumps break like do at we've had water pumps break like do at we've had water pumps break like you wouldn't believe and it's probably you wouldn't believe and it's probably you wouldn't believe and it's probably cost me a quarter of a million dollars cost me a quarter of a million dollars cost me a quarter of a million dollars I'm still not happy with our water pump I'm still not happy with our water pump I'm still not happy with our water pump but our grounding that is something that but our grounding that is something that but our grounding that is something that we've gotten right from the we've gotten right from the we've gotten right from the start man and start man and start man and so from an engineering so from an engineering so from an engineering standpoint standpoint standpoint the I mean you you were literally on a the I mean you you were literally on a the I mean you you were literally on a mission to solve what I equate to be a mission to solve what I equate to be a mission to solve what I equate to be a pretty sophisticated mathematical pretty sophisticated mathematical pretty sophisticated mathematical problem that problem that problem that created created created this this this uh additional synergist sound like a uh additional synergist sound like a uh additional synergist sound like a jerk but went to grad school for 6 and a jerk but went to grad school for 6 and a jerk but went to grad school for 6 and a half freaking years and a refrigerator
49:00half freaking years and a refrigerator half freaking years and a refrigerator is not a sophisticated mathematical is not a sophisticated mathematical is not a sophisticated mathematical problem you know there are all kinds of problem you know there are all kinds of problem you know there are all kinds of problems I'll tell you what a problems I'll tell you what a problems I'll tell you what a sophisticated mathematical problem is sophisticated mathematical problem is sophisticated mathematical problem is how does Google work like when we how does Google work like when we how does Google work like when we started this company the engineering it started this company the engineering it started this company the engineering it was the easy part I'm like I know how was the easy part I'm like I know how was the easy part I'm like I know how electricity works I know how Plumbing electricity works I know how Plumbing electricity works I know how Plumbing works I know how water chemistry works works I know how water chemistry works works I know how water chemistry works but we didn't know how digital marketing but we didn't know how digital marketing but we didn't know how digital marketing works we didn't know how Instagram works works we didn't know how Instagram works works we didn't know how Instagram works and so you know other guys um you know and so you know other guys um you know and so you know other guys um you know they're giving tubs away and they're they're giving tubs away and they're they're giving tubs away and they're talking to Affiliates and influencers talking to Affiliates and influencers talking to Affiliates and influencers and stuff like that coach if I had half and stuff like that coach if I had half and stuff like that coach if I had half a brain you know I I would have like a brain you know I I would have like a brain you know I I would have like given away morasco to all these famous given away morasco to all these famous given away morasco to all these famous people and then they would post it but I people and then they would post it but I people and then they would post it but I didn't even know what Instagram was at didn't even know what Instagram was at didn't even know what Instagram was at the time so when Ben Greenfield called I the time so when Ben Greenfield called I the time so when Ben Greenfield called I didn't know who he was he put us in his didn't know who he was he put us in his didn't know who he was he put us in his boundless book and I'm like well you boundless book and I'm like well you boundless book and I'm like well you know I'm not so sure who is this know I'm not so sure who is this know I'm not so sure who is this Greenfield guy Greenfield guy Greenfield guy now Joe Rogan you know is constantly now Joe Rogan you know is constantly now Joe Rogan you know is constantly posting about us we've never paid Joe
50:00posting about us we've never paid Joe posting about us we've never paid Joe Rogan a dime yeah because I didn't know Rogan a dime yeah because I didn't know Rogan a dime yeah because I didn't know I didn't know you were supposed to do it I didn't know you were supposed to do it I didn't know you were supposed to do it like that you know that to me those are like that you know that to me those are like that you know that to me those are the real Mysteries let's talk about the real Mysteries let's talk about the real Mysteries let's talk about entropy like we could talk about the entropy like we could talk about the entropy like we could talk about the easy stuff you know but dude this is easy stuff you know but dude this is easy stuff you know but dude this is this is what I Envision is like this this is what I Envision is like this this is what I Envision is like this wall of wall of wall of math and and schematics and geometry and math and and schematics and geometry and math and and schematics and geometry and pluses and minuses all over the place pluses and minuses all over the place pluses and minuses all over the place and and Theta signs and and and Theta signs and and and Theta signs and whatnot well just okay the reality is a whatnot well just okay the reality is a whatnot well just okay the reality is a little bit different than that I'll tell little bit different than that I'll tell little bit different than that I'll tell you what actually I don't know what you what actually I don't know what you what actually I don't know what Jason said but this is the truth um we Jason said but this is the truth um we Jason said but this is the truth um we said hey we ought to be able to do this said hey we ought to be able to do this said hey we ought to be able to do this and I took a dorm fridge out of my and I took a dorm fridge out of my and I took a dorm fridge out of my office at ASU and I dropped it off at office at ASU and I dropped it off at office at ASU and I dropped it off at his yard right where he lives because his yard right where he lives because his yard right where he lives because that was going to be our workshop and I that was going to be our workshop and I that was going to be our workshop and I remember being with AJ and she says well remember being with AJ and she says well remember being with AJ and she says well aren't you going to tell him what to do aren't you going to tell him what to do aren't you going to tell him what to do with it nope she goes well how's he with it nope she goes well how's he with it nope she goes well how's he going to know I said I know Jason and I going to know I said I know Jason and I going to know I said I know Jason and I got a text message the next morning
51:00got a text message the next morning got a text message the next morning saying have you got any more of those I saying have you got any more of those I saying have you got any more of those I broke this one you know because he' like broke this one you know because he' like broke this one you know because he' like Parts everywhere you know figuring out Parts everywhere you know figuring out Parts everywhere you know figuring out how it works and like I knew this is how it works and like I knew this is how it works and like I knew this is what he gonna do he he doesn't work with what he gonna do he he doesn't work with what he gonna do he he doesn't work with the thetas that you're imagining like the thetas that you're imagining like the thetas that you're imagining like he's and more inventive some people have he's and more inventive some people have he's and more inventive some people have to get their hands on it and you know to get their hands on it and you know to get their hands on it and you know take it apart see how it works so this take it apart see how it works so this take it apart see how it works so this wasn't really so much the mathematical wasn't really so much the mathematical wasn't really so much the mathematical certainty as us trying a lot of stuff certainty as us trying a lot of stuff certainty as us trying a lot of stuff being inventive figuring out what being inventive figuring out what being inventive figuring out what doesn't work the compressor apart and doesn't work the compressor apart and doesn't work the compressor apart and things like this I love that I love that things like this I love that I love that things like this I love that I love that you know it it's funny because I've you you know it it's funny because I've you you know it it's funny because I've you know as we move uh and evolve our team know as we move uh and evolve our team know as we move uh and evolve our team through our coaching development program through our coaching development program through our coaching development program uh on on the fitness end of the the uh on on the fitness end of the the uh on on the fitness end of the the house of what we do at Next Level you house of what we do at Next Level you house of what we do at Next Level you know one of the things I'm constantly know one of the things I'm constantly know one of the things I'm constantly telling them like you you know you're telling them like you you know you're telling them like you you know you're you're really only limited you're really only limited you're really only limited to your imagination in the application to your imagination in the application to your imagination in the application of these principles you can't get beyond
52:00of these principles you can't get beyond of these principles you can't get beyond the principles but man you can you can the principles but man you can you can the principles but man you can you can apply them in some pretty fun and unique apply them in some pretty fun and unique apply them in some pretty fun and unique ways if you allow your mind to explore ways if you allow your mind to explore ways if you allow your mind to explore you know fantastic yeah yeah and it you know fantastic yeah yeah and it you know fantastic yeah yeah and it sounds like that's very much the journey sounds like that's very much the journey sounds like that's very much the journey that you guys are on with Morosco and I that you guys are on with Morosco and I that you guys are on with Morosco and I think that's that's really cool it's think that's that's really cool it's think that's that's really cool it's really to sound too cynical about it really to sound too cynical about it really to sound too cynical about it because I'm a scientist I make my living because I'm a scientist I make my living because I'm a scientist I make my living that way right but I wasn't looking for that way right but I wasn't looking for that way right but I wasn't looking for ice in theory you know I'm I'm not ice in theory you know I'm I'm not ice in theory you know I'm I'm not looking to resolve type two diabetes in looking to resolve type two diabetes in looking to resolve type two diabetes in theory or some statistical something or theory or some statistical something or theory or some statistical something or other so I wrote a little bit this uh in other so I wrote a little bit this uh in other so I wrote a little bit this uh in my book it's in the preface and it's my book it's in the preface and it's my book it's in the preface and it's kind of an editorial it goes I don't kind of an editorial it goes I don't kind of an editorial it goes I don't care what your randomized control child care what your randomized control child care what your randomized control child says if it doesn't work for you it says if it doesn't work for you it says if it doesn't work for you it doesn't work work for you everybody is doesn't work work for you everybody is doesn't work work for you everybody is different and the only thing that really different and the only thing that really different and the only thing that really matters is that n equals one experiment
53:00matters is that n equals one experiment matters is that n equals one experiment that you're going to run on yourself if that you're going to run on yourself if that you're going to run on yourself if Adrian had listened to her doctor she'd Adrian had listened to her doctor she'd Adrian had listened to her doctor she'd still have Hashimoto because they told still have Hashimoto because they told still have Hashimoto because they told her yeah this is a degenerative chronic her yeah this is a degenerative chronic her yeah this is a degenerative chronic illness and there's nothing you can do illness and there's nothing you can do illness and there's nothing you can do about it you got to be on these meds for about it you got to be on these meds for about it you got to be on these meds for the rest of your life well according to the rest of your life well according to the rest of your life well according to Medicine Adrien never healed she got a Medicine Adrien never healed she got a Medicine Adrien never healed she got a clean lab report right no trace of clean lab report right no trace of clean lab report right no trace of Hashimoto's anywhere she took that to Hashimoto's anywhere she took that to Hashimoto's anywhere she took that to her doctor and her doctor was like oh her doctor and her doctor was like oh her doctor and her doctor was like oh congratulations we don't really know how congratulations we don't really know how congratulations we don't really know how it happened and it it was a very similar it happened and it it was a very similar it happened and it it was a very similar experience to mine Adrian's like well experience to mine Adrian's like well experience to mine Adrian's like well aren't you curious and like well you aren't you curious and like well you aren't you curious and like well you know that's not what we do okay well her know that's not what we do okay well her know that's not what we do okay well her Hashim mot is a coming back because she Hashim mot is a coming back because she Hashim mot is a coming back because she knows how to take care of it now the knows how to take care of it now the knows how to take care of it now the only thing that matters is you and your only thing that matters is you and your only thing that matters is you and your body and your experience and I am not body and your experience and I am not body and your experience and I am not going to be one of those guys you know going to be one of those guys you know going to be one of those guys you know on Twitter that says there's no double on Twitter that says there's no double on Twitter that says there's no double blind peer-reviewed randomized control blind peer-reviewed randomized control blind peer-reviewed randomized control trial that says the thing that happened trial that says the thing that happened trial that says the thing that happened to you actually happened to you so it to you actually happened to you so it to you actually happened to you so it didn't happen like yeah no that's that's didn't happen like yeah no that's that's didn't happen like yeah no that's that's that's so important though
54:00that's so important though that's so important though is is is you a lot listening both explicitly and you a lot listening both explicitly and you a lot listening both explicitly and intuitively to what's going on in your intuitively to what's going on in your intuitively to what's going on in your own skin you know and too often I've own skin you know and too often I've own skin you know and too often I've seen seen seen people people people ignore that because they're seeking ignore that because they're seeking ignore that because they're seeking validation from someone else's validation from someone else's validation from someone else's experience and it's not that someone experience and it's not that someone experience and it's not that someone else's experience or that randomized else's experience or that randomized else's experience or that randomized control study isn't valid but it none of control study isn't valid but it none of control study isn't valid but it none of that stuff you know anybody that's worth that stuff you know anybody that's worth that stuff you know anybody that's worth their salt in the study of anything will their salt in the study of anything will their salt in the study of anything will tell you none of that stuff is universal tell you none of that stuff is universal tell you none of that stuff is universal in application and that that's what's in application and that that's what's in application and that that's what's really important you know and you know really important you know and you know really important you know and you know if you want to put on your tin foil hat if you want to put on your tin foil hat if you want to put on your tin foil hat and go Conspiracy Theory with the and go Conspiracy Theory with the and go Conspiracy Theory with the placebo effect and all that kind of good placebo effect and all that kind of good placebo effect and all that kind of good stuff who cares I love the placebo stuff who cares I love the placebo stuff who cares I love the placebo effect you know nothing's safer and more effect you know nothing's safer and more effect you know nothing's safer and more effective than the effective than the effective than the placebo yeah but you know I I I T talk
55:00placebo yeah but you know I I I T talk placebo yeah but you know I I I T talk you know I had uh Dr Ricky Brown who's a you know I had uh Dr Ricky Brown who's a you know I had uh Dr Ricky Brown who's a uh really great plastic surgeon that we uh really great plastic surgeon that we uh really great plastic surgeon that we work with uh at Next Level an work with uh at Next Level an work with uh at Next Level an incredible amazing human being who put incredible amazing human being who put incredible amazing human being who put such Integrity behind his practice and such Integrity behind his practice and such Integrity behind his practice and we were talking about that because we were talking about that because we were talking about that because before he came into my life I was before he came into my life I was before he came into my life I was super judgmental behind the practice of super judgmental behind the practice of super judgmental behind the practice of plastic Sur surgy and people's quote plastic Sur surgy and people's quote plastic Sur surgy and people's quote unquote inability to be happy with unquote inability to be happy with unquote inability to be happy with themselves and I read his book the uh uh themselves and I read his book the uh uh themselves and I read his book the uh uh the real beauty the real beauty the real beauty Bible and you know he changed my whole Bible and you know he changed my whole Bible and you know he changed my whole perspective on the whole thing and from perspective on the whole thing and from perspective on the whole thing and from the standpoint that if somebody comes to the standpoint that if somebody comes to the standpoint that if somebody comes to Next Level Brown plastic surgery gets in Next Level Brown plastic surgery gets in Next Level Brown plastic surgery gets in a Morosco and on the other side of that a Morosco and on the other side of that a Morosco and on the other side of that experience somewhere down the road experience somewhere down the road experience somewhere down the road they're walking taller they are in a they're walking taller they are in a they're walking taller they are in a healthier frame of mind they take care healthier frame of mind they take care healthier frame of mind they take care of themselves more
56:00of themselves more of themselves more proactively who gives a yep you proactively who gives a yep you proactively who gives a yep you know I've gotten out of the moral know I've gotten out of the moral know I've gotten out of the moral judgment business as much as I can you judgment business as much as I can you judgment business as much as I can you know let's go with what works yeah you know let's go with what works yeah you know let's go with what works yeah you know and and and listen listen to your know and and and listen listen to your know and and and listen listen to your body like accept that for the validation body like accept that for the validation body like accept that for the validation that it is and I I promise you if that it is and I I promise you if that it is and I I promise you if nothing else you'll sleep a hell of a nothing else you'll sleep a hell of a nothing else you'll sleep a hell of a lot better at night no doubt somebody's lot better at night no doubt somebody's lot better at night no doubt somebody's gonna watch this podcast and go seager's gonna watch this podcast and go seager's gonna watch this podcast and go seager's an idiot he does he says bananas are bad an idiot he does he says bananas are bad an idiot he does he says bananas are bad you know or I'm not telling you what and if or I'm not telling you what and if bananas work for you great I'm I'm bananas work for you great I'm I'm bananas work for you great I'm I'm talking about myself maybe because I'm talking about myself maybe because I'm talking about myself maybe because I'm My Own favorite subject and you can say My Own favorite subject and you can say My Own favorite subject and you can say oh he's all self-absorbed or something oh he's all self-absorbed or something oh he's all self-absorbed or something all I can do is say this is what worked all I can do is say this is what worked all I can do is say this is what worked for me and then that becomes a for me and then that becomes a for me and then that becomes a hypothesis for somebody else and then go hypothesis for somebody else and then go hypothesis for somebody else and then go oh maybe I'll try that you know maybe oh maybe I'll try that you know maybe oh maybe I'll try that you know maybe I'll see if my testosterone goes up and I'll see if my testosterone goes up and I'll see if my testosterone goes up and now guys from all over the world are now guys from all over the world are now guys from all over the world are messaging me and they're like I was at
57:00messaging me and they're like I was at messaging me and they're like I was at 450 I'm now at 800 how do I get up to a 450 I'm now at 800 how do I get up to a 450 I'm now at 800 how do I get up to a thousand and I'm like look so dude thousand and I'm like look so dude thousand and I'm like look so dude that's that's that's what I wanted to qu that's that's that's what I wanted to qu that's that's that's what I wanted to qu that's what I wanted to ask you where that's what I wanted to ask you where that's what I wanted to ask you where are you at on the Peter AA are you at on the Peter AA are you at on the Peter AA outlive versus Dave outlive versus Dave outlive versus Dave asprey uh live asprey uh live asprey uh live forever Spectrum are you are you trying forever Spectrum are you are you trying forever Spectrum are you are you trying to get the most out of the years that to get the most out of the years that to get the most out of the years that you you you have regardless of where that finish have regardless of where that finish have regardless of where that finish line is are you trying to live to line is are you trying to live to line is are you trying to live to Infinity well you've talked about two Infinity well you've talked about two Infinity well you've talked about two specific people and to frame this specific people and to frame this specific people and to frame this question about me so I'm going to go question about me so I'm going to go question about me so I'm going to go kind of in Reverse uh order um I want to kind of in Reverse uh order um I want to kind of in Reverse uh order um I want to be around for great great grandkids if I be around for great great grandkids if I be around for great great grandkids if I can um no I think that'd be freaking can um no I think that'd be freaking can um no I think that'd be freaking fantastic so I do want to live a long fantastic so I do want to live a long fantastic so I do want to live a long time nana lived until she was 99 okay
58:00time nana lived until she was 99 okay time nana lived until she was 99 okay now seems reasonable for me to think now seems reasonable for me to think now seems reasonable for me to think well could I beat that you know how much well could I beat that you know how much well could I beat that you know how much could I beat it by uh well my an she could I beat it by uh well my an she could I beat it by uh well my an she hated vegetables all she ate was steak hated vegetables all she ate was steak hated vegetables all she ate was steak and there wasn't anybody telling Nana and there wasn't anybody telling Nana and there wasn't anybody telling Nana that she couldn't or could or whatever that she couldn't or could or whatever that she couldn't or could or whatever but she was a mediator and so I'm but she was a mediator and so I'm but she was a mediator and so I'm starting to put this together you know starting to put this together you know starting to put this together you know I'm like maybe Nana was on to something I'm like maybe Nana was on to something I'm like maybe Nana was on to something cuz she was stubborn and man you did not cuz she was stubborn and man you did not cuz she was stubborn and man you did not want to get the stink eye from Nana want to get the stink eye from Nana want to get the stink eye from Nana Seager but you couldn't tell her what to Seager but you couldn't tell her what to Seager but you couldn't tell her what to eat either so I'm like all right I could eat either so I'm like all right I could eat either so I'm like all right I could probably beat Nana and that's good probably beat Nana and that's good probably beat Nana and that's good because somewhere out there there's a because somewhere out there there's a because somewhere out there there's a great or a great great grandkid and great or a great great grandkid and great or a great great grandkid and something satisfying to me to see how something satisfying to me to see how something satisfying to me to see how that works out so I want that and I want that works out so I want that and I want that works out so I want that and I want every year to be a good one like why every year to be a good one like why every year to be a good one like why wouldn't I I don't want to go like my wouldn't I I don't want to go like my wouldn't I I don't want to go like my father who um you know he was kind of father who um you know he was kind of father who um you know he was kind of bragging uh this goes back 10 years at bragging uh this goes back 10 years at bragging uh this goes back 10 years at Thanksgiving and I remember him saying Thanksgiving and I remember him saying Thanksgiving and I remember him saying I've got seven different cancers in my I've got seven different cancers in my I've got seven different cancers in my body and we just got to wait and see
59:00body and we just got to wait and see body and we just got to wait and see which one kills me and I'm which one kills me and I'm which one kills me and I'm like that's not really the brag that you like that's not really the brag that you like that's not really the brag that you think it is D you think it is D you think it is D you know he didn't die of cancer he just know he didn't die of cancer he just know he didn't die of cancer he just died an old age one he decided to go to died an old age one he decided to go to died an old age one he decided to go to bed one day and say I'm done he was bed one day and say I'm done he was bed one day and say I'm done he was obese he was tired he was suffering from obese he was tired he was suffering from obese he was tired he was suffering from a series of urinary tract infections his a series of urinary tract infections his a series of urinary tract infections his life got hard and I'm convinced he's life got hard and I'm convinced he's life got hard and I'm convinced he's like the most powerful brain I've ever like the most powerful brain I've ever like the most powerful brain I've ever met in anybody I'm convinced his brain met in anybody I'm convinced his brain met in anybody I'm convinced his brain said you know what there's something said you know what there's something said you know what there's something better and life ain't it and he decided better and life ain't it and he decided better and life ain't it and he decided he was going to find out what's next he was going to find out what's next he was going to find out what's next okay so what do I want to do I want both okay so what do I want to do I want both okay so what do I want to do I want both okay I want long life and I want quality okay I want long life and I want quality okay I want long life and I want quality of life why shouldn't I yeah I tried now of life why shouldn't I yeah I tried now of life why shouldn't I yeah I tried now I'm going backwards right I Tried I'm going backwards right I Tried I'm going backwards right I Tried reading Peter aa's book I couldn't get reading Peter aa's book I couldn't get reading Peter aa's book I couldn't get through it really I I I thought it was F through it really I I I thought it was F through it really I I I thought it was F fascinating when I got to his whole fascinating when I got to his whole fascinating when I got to his whole cholesterol thing I'm like you don't
1:00cholesterol thing I'm like you don't cholesterol thing I'm like you don't need to know your aop B whatever you need to know your aop B whatever you need to know your aop B whatever you don't need some you don't need some you don't need some you know um particle size Distribution on know um particle size Distribution on know um particle size Distribution on your blood and the reason I say that is your blood and the reason I say that is your blood and the reason I say that is because all you need to know is your because all you need to know is your because all you need to know is your triglyceride triglyceride to HDL ratio triglyceride triglyceride to HDL ratio triglyceride triglyceride to HDL ratio you get that right you're going to do you get that right you're going to do you get that right you're going to do fine LDL cholesterol fine LDL cholesterol fine LDL cholesterol it's not bad for you your body needs it it's not bad for you your body needs it it's not bad for you your body needs it so if you got high cholesterol that's so if you got high cholesterol that's so if you got high cholesterol that's not what you need to worry about worry not what you need to worry about worry not what you need to worry about worry about your triglyceride to HDL ratio about your triglyceride to HDL ratio about your triglyceride to HDL ratio because that is what's associated with because that is what's associated with because that is what's associated with insulin resistance and insulin insulin resistance and insulin insulin resistance and insulin resistance indicates that you have a resistance indicates that you have a resistance indicates that you have a disordered metabolism metabolism is life disordered metabolism metabolism is life disordered metabolism metabolism is life so I couldn't get through Peter aa's so I couldn't get through Peter aa's so I couldn't get through Peter aa's book Because when he started talking book Because when he started talking book Because when he started talking about cholesterol it sounded like he was about cholesterol it sounded like he was about cholesterol it sounded like he was stretching that cholesterol Theory so stretching that cholesterol Theory so stretching that cholesterol Theory so hard it just doesn't work anymore more hard it just doesn't work anymore more hard it just doesn't work anymore more got it so I returned it and then you got got it so I returned it and then you got got it so I returned it and then you got Dave asprey I've read Dave asprey's book
1:01Dave asprey I've read Dave asprey's book Dave asprey I've read Dave asprey's book Dave aspry is a great writer yeah and Dave aspry is a great writer yeah and Dave aspry is a great writer yeah and I'm gonna leave it at that okay fair enough fair enough well no I okay fair enough fair enough well no I should say one more thing Dave's been on should say one more thing Dave's been on should say one more thing Dave's been on the ground saying you don't need an ice the ground saying you don't need an ice the ground saying you don't need an ice bath all you need to do is stick your bath all you need to do is stick your bath all you need to do is stick your face in a bowl of ice water every face in a bowl of ice water every face in a bowl of ice water every morning and you get all the benefits morning and you get all the benefits morning and you get all the benefits and I'm like is he joking like is it and I'm like is he joking like is it and I'm like is he joking like is it meant to be funny is it a comedy thing meant to be funny is it a comedy thing meant to be funny is it a comedy thing because that sounds asinine to me um now because that sounds asinine to me um now because that sounds asinine to me um now I don't I don't reply and I don't but I don't I don't reply and I don't but I don't I don't reply and I don't but when people ask me they say well Dave when people ask me they say well Dave when people ask me they say well Dave aspry said this you know Professor aspry said this you know Professor aspry said this you know Professor Seager what do you think I said well I Seager what do you think I said well I Seager what do you think I said well I think it's really hard to practice your think it's really hard to practice your think it's really hard to practice your breath work with your face stuck in a breath work with your face stuck in a breath work with your face stuck in a bowl of ice bowl of ice bowl of ice water you know sure it doesn't work for water you know sure it doesn't work for water you know sure it doesn't work for me yeah but if gets something out of it me yeah but if gets something out of it me yeah but if gets something out of it who am I to judge his experience yeah
1:02who am I to judge his experience yeah who am I to judge his experience yeah yeah brother I I really appreciate you yeah brother I I really appreciate you yeah brother I I really appreciate you making the time today this has been an making the time today this has been an making the time today this has been an absolutely phenomenal conversation and I absolutely phenomenal conversation and I absolutely phenomenal conversation and I am grateful for the Insight that you am grateful for the Insight that you am grateful for the Insight that you provided the because it it is provided the because it it is provided the because it it is uh one very very uh one very very uh one very very validating uh in terms of the practice validating uh in terms of the practice validating uh in terms of the practice of the ice bath from a scientific of the ice bath from a scientific of the ice bath from a scientific standpoint you know and I've had two standpoint you know and I've had two standpoint you know and I've had two amazing conversations with your partners amazing conversations with your partners amazing conversations with your partners and this this really rounds out that and this this really rounds out that and this this really rounds out that perspective from as far as I'm concerned perspective from as far as I'm concerned perspective from as far as I'm concerned what our audience is looking for in what our audience is looking for in what our audience is looking for in terms of trying terms of trying terms of trying to convince to convince to convince themselves what what what makes the themselves what what what makes the themselves what what what makes the juice worth the squeeze and why am I juice worth the squeeze and why am I juice worth the squeeze and why am I gonna put myself through this two gonna put myself through this two gonna put myself through this two minutes your audience is probably sick minutes your audience is probably sick minutes your audience is probably sick of hearing about Morosco you know you've of hearing about Morosco you know you've of hearing about Morosco you know you've talked to us all now but if it helps talked to us all now but if it helps talked to us all now but if it helps some people to get the different some people to get the different some people to get the different perspective say hey I'll try it see if perspective say hey I'll try it see if perspective say hey I'll try it see if it works for me then well you know 100%
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1:05to tell everybody about this book and if to tell everybody about this book and if after they listen to me you know for 45 after they listen to me you know for 45 after they listen to me you know for 45 minutes on the stage if they want to buy minutes on the stage if they want to buy minutes on the stage if they want to buy it I'll have 50 copies there for them it I'll have 50 copies there for them it I'll have 50 copies there for them and then I will beg them to tell me how and then I will beg them to tell me how and then I will beg them to tell me how do I make it better I will let morasco do I make it better I will let morasco do I make it better I will let morasco customers buy it because I know these customers buy it because I know these customers buy it because I know these people they're going to write to me and people they're going to write to me and people they're going to write to me and they're going to say you know I love they're going to say you know I love they're going to say you know I love your book Professor Seager but you know your book Professor Seager but you know your book Professor Seager but you know could you say a little more about this could you say a little more about this could you say a little more about this or you but I didn't understand that or you but I didn't understand that or you but I didn't understand that they're going to help me make it better they're going to help me make it better they're going to help me make it better well before I give it to Amazon you know well before I give it to Amazon you know well before I give it to Amazon you know to blast it out let him pretend like I to blast it out let him pretend like I to blast it out let him pretend like I know what I'm doing uh I'm going to give know what I'm doing uh I'm going to give know what I'm doing uh I'm going to give it to the people who know me and they're it to the people who know me and they're it to the people who know me and they're gonna tell me this is what it would make gonna tell me this is what it would make gonna tell me this is what it would make it better for me will you do me a favor it better for me will you do me a favor it better for me will you do me a favor yeah will you take 49 copies with you to yeah will you take 49 copies with you to yeah will you take 49 copies with you to cryocon no cryocon no cryocon no 50 250 coming here I'm gonna come down 50 250 coming here I'm gonna come down 50 250 coming here I'm gonna come down and see you get get a signed copy of and see you get get a signed copy of and see you get get a signed copy of course yeah I'd love for you to have it course yeah I'd love for you to have it course yeah I'd love for you to have it yeah read it absolutely you know and yeah read it absolutely you know and yeah read it absolutely you know and tell me especially the parts about tell me especially the parts about tell me especially the parts about exercise performance because we are on exercise performance because we are on exercise performance because we are on the cusp of a revolution we have been
1:06the cusp of a revolution we have been the cusp of a revolution we have been doing cold wrong for decades look here doing cold wrong for decades look here doing cold wrong for decades look here man you are my my team is all prior man you are my my team is all prior man you are my my team is all prior Collegiate athletes and the way that we Collegiate athletes and the way that we Collegiate athletes and the way that we implemented ice bath compared to what implemented ice bath compared to what implemented ice bath compared to what we're talking about today we we all feel we're talking about today we we all feel we're talking about today we we all feel that we did it wrong so I will have I that we did it wrong so I will have I that we did it wrong so I will have I will be more than happy to scour and will be more than happy to scour and will be more than happy to scour and collaborate with you and give you all collaborate with you and give you all collaborate with you and give you all the ins I can provide love it in in that the ins I can provide love it in in that the ins I can provide love it in in that regard 100% yep we will definitely do regard 100% yep we will definitely do regard 100% yep we will definitely do that thanks absolutely yes yes uh so that thanks absolutely yes yes uh so that thanks absolutely yes yes uh so everybody out everybody out everybody out there follow Dr Seager Seager TP on there follow Dr Seager Seager TP on there follow Dr Seager Seager TP on Instagram on Twitter yeah U you know you Instagram on Twitter yeah U you know you Instagram on Twitter yeah U you know you can subscribe to our Journal at morasco can subscribe to our Journal at morasco can subscribe to our Journal at morasco every time I publish a new you're just every time I publish a new you're just every time I publish a new you're just going to get an article on rumor going to get an article on rumor going to get an article on rumor arthritis but you can arthritis but you can arthritis but you can subscribe really grateful for grateful subscribe really grateful for grateful subscribe really grateful for grateful for you brother I really am this this for you brother I really am this this for you brother I really am this this this connection is is genuine and um this connection is is genuine and um this connection is is genuine and um we're we're going to get that green
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