Detoxification With Near Infrared Light Interview With Brian Richards
00:00welcome everyone this is Dr marola welcome everyone this is Dr marola helping you take control of your health helping you take control of your health helping you take control of your health and I am very excited today that we're and I am very excited today that we're and I am very excited today that we're going to be discussing an issue that is going to be discussing an issue that is going to be discussing an issue that is near and dear to my heart and that is near and dear to my heart and that is near and dear to my heart and that is near not infrared near infrared sauna near not infrared near infrared sauna near not infrared near infrared sauna detoxification because I am the belief detoxification because I am the belief detoxification because I am the belief as are many other experts in as are many other experts in as are many other experts in detoxification that is an essential detoxification that is an essential detoxification that is an essential integral component of that but not only integral component of that but not only integral component of that but not only for detox but so many other biological for detox but so many other biological for detox but so many other biological benefits and today we are joined by benefits and today we are joined by benefits and today we are joined by Brian Richards who is also equally Brian Richards who is also equally Brian Richards who is also equally passionate about this modality and passionate about this modality and passionate about this modality and doesn't really have any formal Health doesn't really have any formal Health doesn't really have any formal Health Training but is has uh provided a Training but is has uh provided a Training but is has uh provided a resource that I think many could be resource that I think many could be resource that I think many could be benef benefit from so welcome and thank benef benefit from so welcome and thank benef benefit from so welcome and thank you for joining us today Brian thank you you for joining us today Brian thank you you for joining us today Brian thank you for having me Dr MCA okay great well I'm for having me Dr MCA okay great well I'm for having me Dr MCA okay great well I'm so excited you're here we got so much so excited you're here we got so much so excited you're here we got so much great stuff to talk talk about uh and I great stuff to talk talk about uh and I great stuff to talk talk about uh and I guess uh it might be best to
01:00guess uh it might be best to guess uh it might be best to differentiate the different uh types of differentiate the different uh types of differentiate the different uh types of infrared saas and the vast infrared saas and the vast infrared saas and the vast majority of infrared saas are far majority of infrared saas are far majority of infrared saas are far infrared which I still think is a useful infrared which I still think is a useful infrared which I still think is a useful challenge unfortunately there's some challenge unfortunately there's some challenge unfortunately there's some downsides so why don't you elaborate on downsides so why don't you elaborate on downsides so why don't you elaborate on those well uh most people understand uh those well uh most people understand uh those well uh most people understand uh what they see as an infrared son is what they see as an infrared son is what they see as an infrared son is indeed a far infrared sauna so far indeed a far infrared sauna so far indeed a far infrared sauna so far infrared near infrared it's a the infrared near infrared it's a the infrared near infrared it's a the differences of wavelength near infrared differences of wavelength near infrared differences of wavelength near infrared is more high energy it's closer to Red is more high energy it's closer to Red is more high energy it's closer to Red so we call it near infrared that's what so we call it near infrared that's what so we call it near infrared that's what an incandescent sauna is uh but that's an incandescent sauna is uh but that's an incandescent sauna is uh but that's not what the typical infrared sauna is not what the typical infrared sauna is not what the typical infrared sauna is the typical infrared sauna is far the typical infrared sauna is far the typical infrared sauna is far infrared which are the very low energy infrared which are the very low energy infrared which are the very low energy uh infrared wavelengths they start out uh infrared wavelengths they start out uh infrared wavelengths they start out at 3,000 nanometers and up from there so at 3,000 nanometers and up from there so at 3,000 nanometers and up from there so uh there's no uh there's no uh there's no photobiomodulation from these photobiomodulation from these photobiomodulation from these wavelengths they're only uh heating the wavelengths they're only uh heating the wavelengths they're only uh heating the body uh it's a very small portion of the body uh it's a very small portion of the body uh it's a very small portion of the sunlight's uh Spectrum actually only a sunlight's uh Spectrum actually only a sunlight's uh Spectrum actually only a few perent of the solar radiation is far
02:00few perent of the solar radiation is far few perent of the solar radiation is far infrared the the biggest portion of infrared the the biggest portion of infrared the the biggest portion of infrared in the sunlight spectrum that infrared in the sunlight spectrum that infrared in the sunlight spectrum that reaches the Earth is near infrared and reaches the Earth is near infrared and reaches the Earth is near infrared and uh there's so much more going on with uh there's so much more going on with uh there's so much more going on with near infared so what's the percentage of near infared so what's the percentage of near infared so what's the percentage of near infared you mentioned that far FR near infared you mentioned that far FR near infared you mentioned that far FR few per um I can bring that up in a few per um I can bring that up in a few per um I can bring that up in a second I think with the with sunlight second I think with the with sunlight second I think with the with sunlight it's about 30% um yeah when I first met Brian at 30% um yeah when I first met Brian at bulletproof uh in 200 bulletproof uh in 200 bulletproof uh in 200 17 I uh didn't believe in what he was 17 I uh didn't believe in what he was 17 I uh didn't believe in what he was doing and really challenged him for a doing and really challenged him for a doing and really challenged him for a half hour just dialog back and forth and half hour just dialog back and forth and half hour just dialog back and forth and that's actually I think it was about that's actually I think it was about that's actually I think it was about that time wasn't it remember remember that time wasn't it remember remember that time wasn't it remember remember that yeah yeah you came up and uh you that yeah yeah you came up and uh you that yeah yeah you came up and uh you were very I wasn't arrogant at least I were very I wasn't arrogant at least I were very I wasn't arrogant at least I tried not to be I just was seeking to tried not to be I just was seeking to tried not to be I just was seeking to understand what your position was understand what your position was understand what your position was because I knew you were good at it and because I knew you were good at it and because I knew you were good at it and you really enlightened me because I was you really enlightened me because I was you really enlightened me because I was confused about some basic concepts and I confused about some basic concepts and I confused about some basic concepts and I suspect many people watching this are suspect many people watching this are suspect many people watching this are too so you now confirm the 30% of the
03:00too so you now confirm the 30% of the too so you now confirm the 30% of the spectrum is near infrared the sun spectrum is near infrared the sun spectrum is near infrared the sun Spectrum uh 40 it's about 40% um these Spectrum uh 40 it's about 40% um these Spectrum uh 40 it's about 40% um these are rough figures but about 40% of are rough figures but about 40% of are rough figures but about 40% of sunlight is near infared so the majority sunlight is near infared so the majority sunlight is near infared so the majority really the majority of the sunlight's really the majority of the sunlight's really the majority of the sunlight's emission is near infared well not emission is near infared well not emission is near infared well not majority majority be over 50 but but a majority majority be over 50 but but a majority majority be over 50 but but a significant percentage the the biggest significant percentage the the biggest significant percentage the the biggest portion if we're looking at visible portion if we're looking at visible portion if we're looking at visible light versus far near Mid and comparing light versus far near Mid and comparing light versus far near Mid and comparing all of it so huge part of our all of it so huge part of our all of it so huge part of our evolutionary context is getting so much evolutionary context is getting so much evolutionary context is getting so much of our light as a near infared of our light as a near infared of our light as a near infared wavelength every day yes and then let me wavelength every day yes and then let me wavelength every day yes and then let me just take a slide tangent before we go just take a slide tangent before we go just take a slide tangent before we go back to the differences again and the back to the differences again and the back to the differences again and the traditionally being exposed to sunlight traditionally being exposed to sunlight traditionally being exposed to sunlight is thought to be almost universally due is thought to be almost universally due is thought to be almost universally due to the benefit of ultraviolet B to the benefit of ultraviolet B to the benefit of ultraviolet B radiation stimulating production of radiation stimulating production of radiation stimulating production of vitamin D but what almost everyone vitamin D but what almost everyone vitamin D but what almost everyone leaves out is the near infrared and its leaves out is the near infrared and its leaves out is the near infrared and its impact on photobiomodulation so please impact on photobiomodulation so please impact on photobiomodulation so please expand on that yeah photobiomodulation expand on that yeah photobiomodulation expand on that yeah photobiomodulation is is simply light activating biological is is simply light activating biological is is simply light activating biological system so you have to have a a light
04:00system so you have to have a a light system so you have to have a a light receptor protein which we call a receptor protein which we call a receptor protein which we call a chromophor in the body to receive the chromophor in the body to receive the chromophor in the body to receive the light and and have it activate some light and and have it activate some light and and have it activate some biological process uh the most biological process uh the most biological process uh the most well-known um form of well-known um form of well-known um form of photobiomodulation is is the is in the photobiomodulation is is the is in the photobiomodulation is is the is in the mitochondria system the mitochondria has mitochondria system the mitochondria has mitochondria system the mitochondria has a light receptor protein the cytochrome a light receptor protein the cytochrome a light receptor protein the cytochrome oxidase so it's in the it's one of the oxidase so it's in the it's one of the oxidase so it's in the it's one of the main um cellular uh respiration you know main um cellular uh respiration you know main um cellular uh respiration you know the main mitochondrial proteins it turns the main mitochondrial proteins it turns the main mitochondrial proteins it turns out it receives light it has absorption out it receives light it has absorption out it receives light it has absorption bands only for near infared light so and bands only for near infared light so and bands only for near infared light so and visible red light as well so these very visible red light as well so these very visible red light as well so these very this very narrow bandwidth of the this very narrow bandwidth of the this very narrow bandwidth of the sunlight is not just heating our body or sunlight is not just heating our body or sunlight is not just heating our body or or in terms of UV promoting some kind of or in terms of UV promoting some kind of or in terms of UV promoting some kind of vitamin D production it's a it's a in vitamin D production it's a it's a in vitamin D production it's a it's a in fact activating entirely different fact activating entirely different fact activating entirely different healing system in the body and since we healing system in the body and since we healing system in the body and since we have mitochondria in every cell of our have mitochondria in every cell of our have mitochondria in every cell of our body besides red blood cells it's a core body besides red blood cells it's a core body besides red blood cells it's a core restorative healing system and and restorative healing system and and restorative healing system and and there's just so many benefits to it and there's just so many benefits to it and there's just so many benefits to it and again something that we had every day again something that we had every day again something that we had every day naked under the sunlight um and
05:00naked under the sunlight um and naked under the sunlight um and absolutely at least for those who live absolutely at least for those who live absolutely at least for those who live close to closer to the tropics or sub close to closer to the tropics or sub close to closer to the tropics or sub subtropics subtropics subtropics winter that's also I don't know who winter that's also I don't know who winter that's also I don't know who where that is where that is where that is [Laughter] [Laughter] [Laughter] anymore all right so thanks for anymore all right so thanks for anymore all right so thanks for expanding that and actually uh expanding that and actually uh expanding that and actually uh mitochondria fun mitochondria function mitochondria fun mitochondria function mitochondria fun mitochondria function and the electron transport chain and the electron transport chain and the electron transport chain specific has been my one of my recent specific has been my one of my recent specific has been my one of my recent passions and really how to uh improve passions and really how to uh improve passions and really how to uh improve and upregulate its function so that you and upregulate its function so that you and upregulate its function so that you can decrease um electron leakage and can decrease um electron leakage and can decrease um electron leakage and reactive oxygen species and oxidative reactive oxygen species and oxidative reactive oxygen species and oxidative stresses stresses stresses so it's and I've believe me I'm deep in so it's and I've believe me I'm deep in so it's and I've believe me I'm deep in the molecular biological literature and the molecular biological literature and the molecular biological literature and it's very very rare to ever find any it's very very rare to ever find any it's very very rare to ever find any study that addresses the the near study that addresses the the near study that addresses the the near infrared component to mitochondrial infrared component to mitochondrial infrared component to mitochondrial function I mean you almost got to go to function I mean you almost got to go to function I mean you almost got to go to the photobiomodulation literature which the photobiomodulation literature which the photobiomodulation literature which used to be previous called llt low light used to be previous called llt low light used to be previous called llt low light laser therapy but now it's it's PBM is
06:00laser therapy but now it's it's PBM is laser therapy but now it's it's PBM is the the more accepted term so can you the the more accepted term so can you the the more accepted term so can you summarize other than what you just said summarize other than what you just said summarize other than what you just said or is is that pretty much the uh your or is is that pretty much the uh your or is is that pretty much the uh your understanding of it well yeah that's understanding of it well yeah that's understanding of it well yeah that's that's essentially this NE it activates that's essentially this NE it activates that's essentially this NE it activates the the mitochondrial healing systems in the the mitochondrial healing systems in the the mitochondrial healing systems in the cells but it does a lot more than the cells but it does a lot more than the cells but it does a lot more than that too uh if we're comparing it near that too uh if we're comparing it near that too uh if we're comparing it near Fred to farm Fred one of the big Fred to farm Fred one of the big Fred to farm Fred one of the big differences has to do with penetration differences has to do with penetration differences has to do with penetration into biological tissue uh we have this into biological tissue uh we have this into biological tissue uh we have this concept of water absorption water concept of water absorption water concept of water absorption water absorbs different wavelengths to absorbs different wavelengths to absorbs different wavelengths to different different different degrees and the water absorption degrees and the water absorption degrees and the water absorption Spectrum actually starts at about 980 Spectrum actually starts at about 980 Spectrum actually starts at about 980 nanometers the first overtone of water nanometers the first overtone of water nanometers the first overtone of water it's called so right when we get in the it's called so right when we get in the it's called so right when we get in the middle of near infrared it's only then middle of near infrared it's only then middle of near infrared it's only then that water begins absorbing wavelengths that water begins absorbing wavelengths that water begins absorbing wavelengths of light but it's a it's a Continuum so of light but it's a it's a Continuum so of light but it's a it's a Continuum so once you get out of near infrared once once you get out of near infrared once once you get out of near infrared once you get to about 14 or 1500 nanometers you get to about 14 or 1500 nanometers you get to about 14 or 1500 nanometers uh the water is almost entirely uh the water is almost entirely uh the water is almost entirely absorbing all of the wavelengths so once absorbing all of the wavelengths so once absorbing all of the wavelengths so once you get out to midinfrared and certainly
07:00you get out to midinfrared and certainly you get out to midinfrared and certainly when you get to farm fored wavelengths when you get to farm fored wavelengths when you get to farm fored wavelengths they're 100% absorbed by water so um they're 100% absorbed by water so um they're 100% absorbed by water so um many people don't are maybe not aware of many people don't are maybe not aware of many people don't are maybe not aware of this that uh but ffred wavelengths for this that uh but ffred wavelengths for this that uh but ffred wavelengths for that reason do not penetrate biological that reason do not penetrate biological that reason do not penetrate biological tissue uh very deeply at all so a far tissue uh very deeply at all so a far tissue uh very deeply at all so a far fored sauna using far fored wavelengths fored sauna using far fored wavelengths fored sauna using far fored wavelengths is essentially surface heating you and is essentially surface heating you and is essentially surface heating you and heating you in a conductive fashion the heating you in a conductive fashion the heating you in a conductive fashion the near infared wavelengths uh because near infared wavelengths uh because near infared wavelengths uh because they're at the beginning of water's they're at the beginning of water's they're at the beginning of water's absorption spectrum they penetrate you absorption spectrum they penetrate you absorption spectrum they penetrate you know they could they been shown to know they could they been shown to know they could they been shown to penetrate up to 100 millimeters but you penetrate up to 100 millimeters but you penetrate up to 100 millimeters but you know on average at least several inches know on average at least several inches know on average at least several inches into the body so with near Fred into the body so with near Fred into the body so with near Fred wavelengths we get radiant heat we get wavelengths we get radiant heat we get wavelengths we get radiant heat we get penetrating heat and this is a much more penetrating heat and this is a much more penetrating heat and this is a much more efficient way uh to heat biological efficient way uh to heat biological efficient way uh to heat biological tissue that's another key difference tissue that's another key difference tissue that's another key difference that near infared has that you know you that near infared has that you know you that near infared has that you know you know from Far know from Far know from Far infared thank you for explaining that infared thank you for explaining that infared thank you for explaining that because that is a massive source of because that is a massive source of because that is a massive source of confusion and actually I would even spec confusion and actually I would even spec confusion and actually I would even spec speculate but contend fraud because of speculate but contend fraud because of speculate but contend fraud because of the far infrared saunas promote their
08:00the far infrared saunas promote their the far infrared saunas promote their sauna as doing exactly what you said sauna as doing exactly what you said sauna as doing exactly what you said that it's not conductive it's it's that it's not conductive it's it's that it's not conductive it's it's heating the body at Deep tissues but heating the body at Deep tissues but heating the body at Deep tissues but because of the explanation you just because of the explanation you just because of the explanation you just provided far infared is only going a few provided far infared is only going a few provided far infared is only going a few millimeters into the body it's very millimeters into the body it's very millimeters into the body it's very superficial now it has the potential to superficial now it has the potential to superficial now it has the potential to go in if water wasn't there but we've go in if water wasn't there but we've go in if water wasn't there but we've got water so it's not going deep where got water so it's not going deep where got water so it's not going deep where yeah and this uh you can just Google yeah and this uh you can just Google yeah and this uh you can just Google water absorption spectrum and you can water absorption spectrum and you can water absorption spectrum and you can see this for yourself on you know any see this for yourself on you know any see this for yourself on you know any most scientific sites it's it's a very most scientific sites it's it's a very most scientific sites it's it's a very well-known old concept of water well-known old concept of water well-known old concept of water absorption um and and it's interesting absorption um and and it's interesting absorption um and and it's interesting that um you know a man-made oldest light that um you know a man-made oldest light that um you know a man-made oldest light emitting technology is the incandescent emitting technology is the incandescent emitting technology is the incandescent bulb and that's what uh farmers in bulb and that's what uh farmers in bulb and that's what uh farmers in agriculture have used to heat livestock agriculture have used to heat livestock agriculture have used to heat livestock for you know almost a hundred years now for you know almost a hundred years now for you know almost a hundred years now they've known for many many decades that they've known for many many decades that they've known for many many decades that that is a more efficient way of heating that is a more efficient way of heating that is a more efficient way of heating the body and it's because it's primarily the body and it's because it's primarily the body and it's because it's primarily near infrared with the incandescent bulb
09:00near infrared with the incandescent bulb near infrared with the incandescent bulb because it's what's called because it's what's called because it's what's called incandescence uh which we throw that incandescence uh which we throw that incandescence uh which we throw that term around a lot but it's it's actually term around a lot but it's it's actually term around a lot but it's it's actually really simple when you heat up a really simple when you heat up a really simple when you heat up a material in nature hot enough it emits material in nature hot enough it emits material in nature hot enough it emits light naturally so when an iron Rod light naturally so when an iron Rod light naturally so when an iron Rod glows red that's incandescence the glows red that's incandescence the glows red that's incandescence the firplace the candle um the you know the firplace the candle um the you know the firplace the candle um the you know the the incandescent bulb and also the sun the incandescent bulb and also the sun the incandescent bulb and also the sun these are in in physics it's called these are in in physics it's called these are in in physics it's called black body radiation but uh we black body radiation but uh we black body radiation but uh we understand it also as incandescent it's understand it also as incandescent it's understand it also as incandescent it's it's natural light natur light is it's natural light natur light is it's natural light natur light is literally incandescent light yes so uh literally incandescent light yes so uh literally incandescent light yes so uh it's been around with us you know it's been around with us you know it's been around with us you know ancestrally forever and even in terms of ancestrally forever and even in terms of ancestrally forever and even in terms of lighting technology uh electrical lighting technology uh electrical lighting technology uh electrical technology uh we've had the incandescent technology uh we've had the incandescent technology uh we've had the incandescent Bowl the longest and it is the most Bowl the longest and it is the most Bowl the longest and it is the most efficient way to heat tissue because it efficient way to heat tissue because it efficient way to heat tissue because it is substantially infrared yeah so that's is substantially infrared yeah so that's is substantially infrared yeah so that's a massive difference and that if it a massive difference and that if it a massive difference and that if it wasn't for that fact alone that would be wasn't for that fact alone that would be wasn't for that fact alone that would be a strong encouragement to heat your body a strong encouragement to heat your body a strong encouragement to heat your body more effectively to help your facilitate more effectively to help your facilitate more effectively to help your facilitate detoxification which is one of the
10:00detoxification which is one of the detoxification which is one of the primary benefits but there's many more primary benefits but there's many more primary benefits but there's many more that I'm sure we're going to touch on that I'm sure we're going to touch on that I'm sure we're going to touch on but the the the oldest form I mean but the the the oldest form I mean but the the the oldest form I mean thinkness invols been around 100 years thinkness invols been around 100 years thinkness invols been around 100 years actually more than 100 years but not actually more than 100 years but not actually more than 100 years but not much but what precedes that by many much but what precedes that by many much but what precedes that by many Millennia would be Millennia would be Millennia would be fire which is pretty similar Spectrum to fire which is pretty similar Spectrum to fire which is pretty similar Spectrum to the incandescent the incandescent the incandescent bulbs yeah the essentially the the the bulbs yeah the essentially the the the bulbs yeah the essentially the the the the peak of the spectrum is determined the peak of the spectrum is determined the peak of the spectrum is determined by the temperature of the of the source by the temperature of the of the source by the temperature of the of the source so the sun is about 55 500 Kelvin uh so so the sun is about 55 500 Kelvin uh so so the sun is about 55 500 Kelvin uh so its peak is in the visible light band its peak is in the visible light band its peak is in the visible light band The incandescent bulb was you know The incandescent bulb was you know The incandescent bulb was you know between 2400 to 2800 Kelvin so about between 2400 to 2800 Kelvin so about between 2400 to 2800 Kelvin so about half the temperature of the Sun so its half the temperature of the Sun so its half the temperature of the Sun so its peak is actually in the near infrared so peak is actually in the near infrared so peak is actually in the near infrared so it's a little bit shorter um and and the it's a little bit shorter um and and the it's a little bit shorter um and and the peak is shifted a little bit to lower peak is shifted a little bit to lower peak is shifted a little bit to lower energy to the infrared but essentially energy to the infrared but essentially energy to the infrared but essentially it's the same form of light the it's the same form of light the it's the same form of light the fireplace uh and the candle will just be fireplace uh and the candle will just be fireplace uh and the candle will just be a lower Peak and shift it even more into a lower Peak and shift it even more into a lower Peak and shift it even more into into the infrared Spectrum but the same
11:00into the infrared Spectrum but the same into the infrared Spectrum but the same uh natural curve of light I think it's uh natural curve of light I think it's uh natural curve of light I think it's about 1,200 Kelvin somewhere in that about 1,200 Kelvin somewhere in that about 1,200 Kelvin somewhere in that range yeah that sounds about right so uh range yeah that sounds about right so uh range yeah that sounds about right so uh but the key thing is and is that it's an but the key thing is and is that it's an but the key thing is and is that it's an analog Spectrum it's not it's the analog Spectrum it's not it's the analog Spectrum it's not it's the complete frequency between a certain complete frequency between a certain complete frequency between a certain ranges and of course far infrared has ranges and of course far infrared has ranges and of course far infrared has the higher ranges and near infrared the higher ranges and near infrared the higher ranges and near infrared is where does the near infrared go off is where does the near infrared go off is where does the near infrared go off on the high end is it is it mid infrared on the high end is it is it mid infrared on the high end is it is it mid infrared uh T it's it's 6 to 700 is red visible uh T it's it's 6 to 700 is red visible uh T it's it's 6 to 700 is red visible red 700 to 1500 is roughly near infrared red 700 to 1500 is roughly near infrared red 700 to 1500 is roughly near infrared and then we get into mid infrared 1500 and then we get into mid infrared 1500 and then we get into mid infrared 1500 to 3,000 nanometers okay and then once to 3,000 nanometers okay and then once to 3,000 nanometers okay and then once we beyond that it's far infared so um we beyond that it's far infared so um we beyond that it's far infared so um yeah it is analog light and so there's a yeah it is analog light and so there's a yeah it is analog light and so there's a lot of confusion about this too well lot of confusion about this too well lot of confusion about this too well what is full spectrum and this is full what is full spectrum and this is full what is full spectrum and this is full spectrum that's full spectrum and there spectrum that's full spectrum and there spectrum that's full spectrum and there are so-called fluorescent bulbs that are are so-called fluorescent bulbs that are are so-called fluorescent bulbs that are full spectrum bulbs um they're they're full spectrum bulbs um they're they're full spectrum bulbs um they're they're they're really not full spectrum you they're really not full spectrum you they're really not full spectrum you know I have an old I have an old know I have an old I have an old know I have an old I have an old spectral shart that I used a long time spectral shart that I used a long time spectral shart that I used a long time ago it it looks like this um that the
12:00ago it it looks like this um that the ago it it looks like this um that the green Spectrum here if you could see in green Spectrum here if you could see in green Spectrum here if you could see in the back these spikes that's a the back these spikes that's a the back these spikes that's a fluorescent bulb and and an LED bulb you fluorescent bulb and and an LED bulb you fluorescent bulb and and an LED bulb you know typical home LED is in the blue and know typical home LED is in the blue and know typical home LED is in the blue and the Sun is kind of in yellow in the the Sun is kind of in yellow in the the Sun is kind of in yellow in the background and then the incandescent background and then the incandescent background and then the incandescent bulb is in pink but but what you see bulb is in pink but but what you see bulb is in pink but but what you see here is analog light is full spectrum so here is analog light is full spectrum so here is analog light is full spectrum so it's all of these wavelengths in a uh it's all of these wavelengths in a uh it's all of these wavelengths in a uh natural power curve that's what full natural power curve that's what full natural power curve that's what full spectrum means so you get all the spectrum means so you get all the spectrum means so you get all the wavelengths uh in in a uh you know in wavelengths uh in in a uh you know in wavelengths uh in in a uh you know in this relative proportion that's this relative proportion that's this relative proportion that's determined by this big bell curve shape determined by this big bell curve shape determined by this big bell curve shape with a long tail and infrared if you're with a long tail and infrared if you're with a long tail and infrared if you're talking about uh your uh typical LED talking about uh your uh typical LED talking about uh your uh typical LED bulb or your typical fluorescent bulb bulb or your typical fluorescent bulb bulb or your typical fluorescent bulb it's this spiky digital Spectrum it's it's this spiky digital Spectrum it's it's this spiky digital Spectrum it's very uh stepwise it's it's unnatural very uh stepwise it's it's unnatural very uh stepwise it's it's unnatural looking it's not a smooth curb of of all looking it's not a smooth curb of of all looking it's not a smooth curb of of all the wavelengths it's a few wavelengths the wavelengths it's a few wavelengths the wavelengths it's a few wavelengths and a very high power output so it's not and a very high power output so it's not and a very high power output so it's not light that we're used to get and and light that we're used to get and and light that we're used to get and and that's the difference between full that's the difference between full that's the difference between full spectrum and and monochromatic light um
13:00spectrum and and monochromatic light um spectrum and and monochromatic light um and only incandescent light sources and only incandescent light sources and only incandescent light sources really are are truly full spectrum um uh really are are truly full spectrum um uh really are are truly full spectrum um uh any everything else LEDs and fluorescent any everything else LEDs and fluorescent any everything else LEDs and fluorescent just give the appearance of full just give the appearance of full just give the appearance of full spectrum so um in an LED they'll add a a spectrum so um in an LED they'll add a a spectrum so um in an LED they'll add a a different it's typically blue a lot of different it's typically blue a lot of different it's typically blue a lot of blue light and they add a phos a blue light and they add a phos a blue light and they add a phos a different phosphorus in compound to give different phosphorus in compound to give different phosphorus in compound to give it a yellow Peak so to the human eye it it a yellow Peak so to the human eye it it a yellow Peak so to the human eye it looks like white light or or yellow looks like white light or or yellow looks like white light or or yellow light or kind of that tungsten glow but light or kind of that tungsten glow but light or kind of that tungsten glow but but it's it's uh you know in terms of but it's it's uh you know in terms of but it's it's uh you know in terms of the spectral output it's not natural the spectral output it's not natural the spectral output it's not natural it's hiding an unnatural Spectrum it's hiding an unnatural Spectrum it's hiding an unnatural Spectrum unnatural uh correlation of wavelengths unnatural uh correlation of wavelengths unnatural uh correlation of wavelengths that we're not used to yeah yeah so that we're not used to yeah yeah so that we're not used to yeah yeah so those clearly we're both huge Advocates those clearly we're both huge Advocates those clearly we're both huge Advocates of uh analog Full Spectrum Lighting a of uh analog Full Spectrum Lighting a of uh analog Full Spectrum Lighting a true Full Spectrum Lighting uh and the true Full Spectrum Lighting uh and the true Full Spectrum Lighting uh and the aside from the wavelength difference you aside from the wavelength difference you aside from the wavelength difference you just described the other pernicious just described the other pernicious just described the other pernicious component of that is the dirty component of that is the dirty component of that is the dirty electricity introduction which makes electricity introduction which makes electricity introduction which makes fluorescent the worst type of lighting
14:00fluorescent the worst type of lighting fluorescent the worst type of lighting you could possibly have and most people you could possibly have and most people you could possibly have and most people watching this are probably in an office watching this are probably in an office watching this are probably in an office or work in an office that almost or work in an office that almost or work in an office that almost invariably has full spectrum I mean invariably has full spectrum I mean invariably has full spectrum I mean fluorescent lighting in it and you know fluorescent lighting in it and you know fluorescent lighting in it and you know it's it's amazing how many people refuse it's it's amazing how many people refuse it's it's amazing how many people refuse to Incorporated but all you've got to do to Incorporated but all you've got to do to Incorporated but all you've got to do especially if you got Windows is turn especially if you got Windows is turn especially if you got Windows is turn off the lights turn off the lights off the lights turn off the lights off the lights turn off the lights because not only going to get bad because not only going to get bad because not only going to get bad frequencies you're going to get energy frequencies you're going to get energy frequencies you're going to get energy outputs these high voltage transort uh outputs these high voltage transort uh outputs these high voltage transort uh transion go into the electricity and go transion go into the electricity and go transion go into the electricity and go straight into your body directly even straight into your body directly even straight into your body directly even from the light itself not in addition to from the light itself not in addition to from the light itself not in addition to the one that introduces into the wiring the one that introduces into the wiring the one that introduces into the wiring so yeah that's a really scary concept so yeah that's a really scary concept so yeah that's a really scary concept actually that the electrical line can actually that the electrical line can actually that the electrical line can conduct the microwave cell phone signal conduct the microwave cell phone signal conduct the microwave cell phone signal and carry it to the fluorescent bulb and and carry it to the fluorescent bulb and and carry it to the fluorescent bulb and it can actually radiate out of the bulb it can actually radiate out of the bulb it can actually radiate out of the bulb and and hit you with electric field and and hit you with electric field and and hit you with electric field stress it's it's not the it's not the stress it's it's not the it's not the stress it's it's not the it's not the radio frequency microwaves it's actually radio frequency microwaves it's actually radio frequency microwaves it's actually lower frequencies like two to 100 khz lower frequencies like two to 100 khz lower frequencies like two to 100 khz typically and and it fluoresence are typically and and it fluoresence are typically and and it fluoresence are typically about 62 khz where it
15:00typically about 62 khz where it typically about 62 khz where it introduces it's it's an artifact of the introduces it's it's an artifact of the introduces it's it's an artifact of the way that the light is produced and it's way that the light is produced and it's way that the light is produced and it's a very pernicious biological frequency a very pernicious biological frequency a very pernicious biological frequency and that's something you should have and that's something you should have and that's something you should have never been exposed to and it increases never been exposed to and it increases never been exposed to and it increases your body voltage and and that's not your body voltage and and that's not your body voltage and and that's not healthy believe me it's not healthy believe me it's not healthy believe me it's not healthy yeah you are correct Dr mle also healthy yeah you are correct Dr mle also healthy yeah you are correct Dr mle also there's the issue of flicker yeah yeah there's the issue of flicker yeah yeah there's the issue of flicker yeah yeah I'm not sure how much of an issue that I'm not sure how much of an issue that I'm not sure how much of an issue that is but it is there yes anytime you have is but it is there yes anytime you have is but it is there yes anytime you have a digital light source that's that's a digital light source that's that's a digital light source that's that's going to happen you can explain this now going to happen you can explain this now going to happen you can explain this now that you mentioned it well uh your that you mentioned it well uh your that you mentioned it well uh your fluorescent bulbs flicker uh um 400 to fluorescent bulbs flicker uh um 400 to fluorescent bulbs flicker uh um 400 to 600 times a second and LED bulbs Flicker 600 times a second and LED bulbs Flicker 600 times a second and LED bulbs Flicker at typically at 120 hertz so 120 times a at typically at 120 hertz so 120 times a at typically at 120 hertz so 120 times a second um fluorescence shut off to about second um fluorescence shut off to about second um fluorescence shut off to about 30% each time the phase is you know in 30% each time the phase is you know in 30% each time the phase is you know in the flickering the bulb so it um um it's the flickering the bulb so it um um it's the flickering the bulb so it um um it's not as a dramatic a flicker as an LED an not as a dramatic a flicker as an LED an not as a dramatic a flicker as an LED an LED completely shuts off from zero to LED completely shuts off from zero to LED completely shuts off from zero to 100% every time the phase changes in the 100% every time the phase changes in the 100% every time the phase changes in the alternating current so the flicker the
16:00alternating current so the flicker the alternating current so the flicker the degree of flicker from an LED is greater degree of flicker from an LED is greater degree of flicker from an LED is greater and more stressful even though the and more stressful even though the and more stressful even though the flicker rate of a fluorescent bulb is flicker rate of a fluorescent bulb is flicker rate of a fluorescent bulb is higher but both in both scenarios it's higher but both in both scenarios it's higher but both in both scenarios it's light that's pulsing us like this and is light that's pulsing us like this and is light that's pulsing us like this and is a nervous system stresser it Jacks Jacks a nervous system stresser it Jacks Jacks a nervous system stresser it Jacks Jacks you Jacks you up it's an excitatory uh you Jacks you up it's an excitatory uh you Jacks you up it's an excitatory uh stimulus and there are if you if you uh stimulus and there are if you if you uh stimulus and there are if you if you uh search on the pub man there are growing search on the pub man there are growing search on the pub man there are growing number there are some studies that are number there are some studies that are number there are some studies that are showing that it is it ca it's been showing that it is it ca it's been showing that it is it ca it's been Associated you know with headaches and Associated you know with headaches and Associated you know with headaches and dizziness and and and migraines and dizziness and and and migraines and dizziness and and and migraines and other you know other you know other you know undesirable psychological effects on the undesirable psychological effects on the undesirable psychological effects on the body this this flicker stress and you body this this flicker stress and you body this this flicker stress and you compound that with it being all blue compound that with it being all blue compound that with it being all blue light as well um a natural Spectrum as light as well um a natural Spectrum as light as well um a natural Spectrum as we discussed it it it becomes uh and we discussed it it it becomes uh and we discussed it it it becomes uh and it's something that we sit under all day it's something that we sit under all day it's something that we sit under all day long in the office and it it becomes a long in the office and it it becomes a long in the office and it it becomes a real problem something that actually real problem something that actually real problem something that actually does does have a detrimental effect on does does have a detrimental effect on does does have a detrimental effect on our health yeah so we that's a pretty our health yeah so we that's a pretty our health yeah so we that's a pretty good uh summary of the downsides the good uh summary of the downsides the good uh summary of the downsides the upsides and there are some some sign upsides and there are some some sign upsides and there are some some sign ones and such that uh the
17:00ones and such that uh the ones and such that uh the short-sighted government authorities in short-sighted government authorities in short-sighted government authorities in the world most of them have outlawed the world most of them have outlawed the world most of them have outlawed these uh uh incandescent bulbs because these uh uh incandescent bulbs because these uh uh incandescent bulbs because when these other bulbs the fluorescence when these other bulbs the fluorescence when these other bulbs the fluorescence LEDs uh pulse on it off as you described LEDs uh pulse on it off as you described LEDs uh pulse on it off as you described when they're off they're not using when they're off they're not using when they're off they're not using energy so they're far more energy energy so they're far more energy energy so they're far more energy efficient than an incandescent bulb some efficient than an incandescent bulb some efficient than an incandescent bulb some to some ratios are 20 to1 so it'll cost to some ratios are 20 to1 so it'll cost to some ratios are 20 to1 so it'll cost you for every dollar you're spending on you for every dollar you're spending on you for every dollar you're spending on a uh digital bulb you meet 202 on an a uh digital bulb you meet 202 on an a uh digital bulb you meet 202 on an incandescent bulb and and the the incandescent bulb and and the the incandescent bulb and and the the conventional thought is that it's all conventional thought is that it's all conventional thought is that it's all that heat is wasted energy but in fact that heat is wasted energy but in fact that heat is wasted energy but in fact it's not it's a very useful source and it's not it's a very useful source and it's not it's a very useful source and that's you could actually harness that that's you could actually harness that that's you could actually harness that energy to do very powerful and and energy to do very powerful and and energy to do very powerful and and important biological strategies so uh important biological strategies so uh important biological strategies so uh why don't you take off on that and why don't you take off on that and why don't you take off on that and expand on it yeah that's that's that's expand on it yeah that's that's that's expand on it yeah that's that's that's exactly it it's it's the the the exactly it it's it's the the the exactly it it's it's the the the incadescent bulb was condemned as being incadescent bulb was condemned as being incadescent bulb was condemned as being energy efficient but you know um It's a
18:00energy efficient but you know um It's a energy efficient but you know um It's a Wonderful way to heat the room and Wonderful way to heat the room and Wonderful way to heat the room and Farmers have been using it forever Farmers have been using it forever Farmers have been using it forever here's a here's our typical incandescent here's a here's our typical incandescent here's a here's our typical incandescent bulb we use um for incandescent Sono bulb we use um for incandescent Sono bulb we use um for incandescent Sono therapy so we use a 250 watt red therapy so we use a 250 watt red therapy so we use a 250 watt red filtered incandescent bulb and all of filtered incandescent bulb and all of filtered incandescent bulb and all of the all of the um all the wavelengths the all of the um all the wavelengths the all of the um all the wavelengths emitted that are that um the energy emitted that are that um the energy emitted that are that um the energy efficient folks call non-efficient and efficient folks call non-efficient and efficient folks call non-efficient and wasteful are the healing wavelengths wasteful are the healing wavelengths wasteful are the healing wavelengths those are so so uh so we've taken so those are so so uh so we've taken so those are so so uh so we've taken so when we've gone to incad uh when we've when we've gone to incad uh when we've when we've gone to incad uh when we've gone to LEDs and fluoresence we've gone to LEDs and fluoresence we've gone to LEDs and fluoresence we've removed the healing component for the removed the healing component for the removed the healing component for the sake of Energy Efficiency um and uh but sake of Energy Efficiency um and uh but sake of Energy Efficiency um and uh but but to with very detrimental but to with very detrimental but to with very detrimental consequences to our health when uh these consequences to our health when uh these consequences to our health when uh these if we're going to sit inside we're going if we're going to sit inside we're going if we're going to sit inside we're going to use light that's produced by to use light that's produced by to use light that's produced by electricity for convenience if we use electricity for convenience if we use electricity for convenience if we use incandescent pole we get so many incandescent pole we get so many incandescent pole we get so many benefits with it on the healing side of benefits with it on the healing side of benefits with it on the healing side of things and the heating side of things things and the heating side of things things and the heating side of things that are that are actually there and we that are that are actually there and we that are that are actually there and we know from son we know uh you know all
19:00know from son we know uh you know all know from son we know uh you know all the benefits we have from heating the the benefits we have from heating the the benefits we have from heating the body it's not just detox it's the Vaso body it's not just detox it's the Vaso body it's not just detox it's the Vaso dilation and the blood circulation and dilation and the blood circulation and dilation and the blood circulation and um you know the structuring of water um you know the structuring of water um you know the structuring of water aspects there's so many aspects that are aspects there's so many aspects that are aspects there's so many aspects that are beneficial to us we remove almost all of beneficial to us we remove almost all of beneficial to us we remove almost all of those in our attempt to become um a th% those in our attempt to become um a th% those in our attempt to become um a th% energy efficient and and besides the energy efficient and and besides the energy efficient and and besides the disadvantages which we've already disadvantages which we've already disadvantages which we've already discussed with LEDs and fluorescent we discussed with LEDs and fluorescent we discussed with LEDs and fluorescent we have other ones too fluorescent bulbs have other ones too fluorescent bulbs have other ones too fluorescent bulbs are actually mercury vapor bulbs so when are actually mercury vapor bulbs so when are actually mercury vapor bulbs so when you break those in your office it you break those in your office it you break those in your office it creates a very hazardous waste that um creates a very hazardous waste that um creates a very hazardous waste that um basically mercury vapor that sticks to basically mercury vapor that sticks to basically mercury vapor that sticks to everything it's very toxic stuff and everything it's very toxic stuff and everything it's very toxic stuff and even if it doesn't break in your office even if it doesn't break in your office even if it doesn't break in your office what happens when you're done with that what happens when you're done with that what happens when you're done with that fluorescent bulb it's breaking outside fluorescent bulb it's breaking outside fluorescent bulb it's breaking outside in the trash can it's breaking in the in the trash can it's breaking in the in the trash can it's breaking in the earth it's it's what I would consider to earth it's it's what I would consider to earth it's it's what I would consider to be very damaging to our environment to be very damaging to our environment to be very damaging to our environment to our Earth and and that makes it the the our Earth and and that makes it the the our Earth and and that makes it the the energy I think the energy efficient energy I think the energy efficient energy I think the energy efficient argument becomes less becomes weaker argument becomes less becomes weaker argument becomes less becomes weaker when we talk about the damage to the when we talk about the damage to the when we talk about the damage to the environment the incandescent bulb it's environment the incandescent bulb it's environment the incandescent bulb it's just just just glass there's no toxic waste involved uh
20:00glass there's no toxic waste involved uh glass there's no toxic waste involved uh and the same thing with these these new and the same thing with these these new and the same thing with these these new LED bulbs for home lighting they're all LED bulbs for home lighting they're all LED bulbs for home lighting they're all little tiny pieces of plastic uh they're little tiny pieces of plastic uh they're little tiny pieces of plastic uh they're generating a lot of you know plastic generating a lot of you know plastic generating a lot of you know plastic that um is not good for our environment that um is not good for our environment that um is not good for our environment and and uh beyond that just what's more and and uh beyond that just what's more and and uh beyond that just what's more important saving this incremental amount important saving this incremental amount important saving this incremental amount of of electricity or or or health really of of electricity or or or health really of of electricity or or or health really you know how can we heal our bodies you know how can we heal our bodies you know how can we heal our bodies every day we were doing that with think every day we were doing that with think every day we were doing that with think in desin bold for 80 years in desin bold for 80 years in desin bold for 80 years yeah yeah I have done a previous yeah yeah I have done a previous yeah yeah I have done a previous interview with Dr Alexander VCH who is a interview with Dr Alexander VCH who is a interview with Dr Alexander VCH who is a native born German and is usually based native born German and is usually based native born German and is usually based in German I'm sure familiar with his in German I'm sure familiar with his in German I'm sure familiar with his work but unfortunately it's a very very work but unfortunately it's a very very work but unfortunately it's a very very thick German accent and nowhere near as thick German accent and nowhere near as thick German accent and nowhere near as a is you so we discussed this previously a is you so we discussed this previously a is you so we discussed this previously primarily from the perspective of using primarily from the perspective of using primarily from the perspective of using uh incandescent lights as a as a therapy uh incandescent lights as a as a therapy uh incandescent lights as a as a therapy uh not as a therapy but as a as a a uh not as a therapy but as a as a a uh not as a therapy but as a as a a lighting source so as what we focused on lighting source so as what we focused on lighting source so as what we focused on now but uh aside from that and I think
21:00now but uh aside from that and I think now but uh aside from that and I think there are good arguments and and let's there are good arguments and and let's there are good arguments and and let's finish this off before we move on to the finish this off before we move on to the finish this off before we move on to the the therapeutic benefits one is the that the therapeutic benefits one is the that the therapeutic benefits one is the that they are pretty much illegal and uh to they are pretty much illegal and uh to they are pretty much illegal and uh to to sell except for some modifications to sell except for some modifications to sell except for some modifications and you might know this better than me and you might know this better than me and you might know this better than me uh but that's for most of us and Europe uh but that's for most of us and Europe uh but that's for most of us and Europe and you have to buy specialty bulbs and you have to buy specialty bulbs and you have to buy specialty bulbs which have an exemption and costs like which have an exemption and costs like which have an exemption and costs like five times as much instead of 25 cents a five times as much instead of 25 cents a five times as much instead of 25 cents a bulb it's like a few dollars uh so you bulb it's like a few dollars uh so you bulb it's like a few dollars uh so you can go to eBay and still find some of can go to eBay and still find some of can go to eBay and still find some of the old ones the last time I I bought the old ones the last time I I bought the old ones the last time I I bought about 500 of them because I I want to about 500 of them because I I want to about 500 of them because I I want to have stock of these things just the have stock of these things just the have stock of these things just the regular 60 watt bulbs that you can put regular 60 watt bulbs that you can put regular 60 watt bulbs that you can put in your in your room in your uh kitchen in your in your room in your uh kitchen in your in your room in your uh kitchen your bedroom your bathroom you don't your bedroom your bathroom you don't your bedroom your bathroom you don't have to put them in every Outlet in uh have to put them in every Outlet in uh have to put them in every Outlet in uh fixture in your house because some of fixture in your house because some of fixture in your house because some of them you hardly ever use but the ones them you hardly ever use but the ones them you hardly ever use but the ones you use every day are the ones you need you use every day are the ones you need you use every day are the ones you need to use and you've got the 250 watt which to use and you've got the 250 watt which to use and you've got the 250 watt which is a different version yeah now you're is a different version yeah now you're is a different version yeah now you're getting into healing healing therapy getting into healing healing therapy getting into healing healing therapy correct correct you know you want you correct correct you know you want you correct correct you know you want you want the 250 watt in incandescent Sono
22:00want the 250 watt in incandescent Sono want the 250 watt in incandescent Sono therapy because you want a lot of a therapy because you want a lot of a therapy because you want a lot of a Radiance you want a lot of the these big Radiance you want a lot of the these big Radiance you want a lot of the these big portion of the healing weight lengths of portion of the healing weight lengths of portion of the healing weight lengths of near fored but um that's kind of a near fored but um that's kind of a near fored but um that's kind of a misnomer though that it's it's become misnomer though that it's it's become misnomer though that it's it's become illegal it's just perceived it's illegal it's just perceived it's illegal it's just perceived it's perceived as being perceived as being perceived as being banned for so so what actually happened banned for so so what actually happened banned for so so what actually happened is they just changed the Energy is they just changed the Energy is they just changed the Energy Efficiency Efficiency Efficiency requirements and by facto so it banned requirements and by facto so it banned requirements and by facto so it banned all of the bulbs so you can't get the all of the bulbs so you can't get the all of the bulbs so you can't get the 150 watts you can't get the ones that 150 watts you can't get the ones that 150 watts you can't get the ones that switch from 50 to 100 150 that you could switch from 50 to 100 150 that you could switch from 50 to 100 150 that you could dial you could change the the level of dial you could change the the level of dial you could change the the level of light that was so convenient uh you light that was so convenient uh you light that was so convenient uh you can't get the big wattage work bulbs can't get the big wattage work bulbs can't get the big wattage work bulbs anymore um but there was a an exemption anymore um but there was a an exemption anymore um but there was a an exemption for specialty bulbs oven bulbs the heat for specialty bulbs oven bulbs the heat for specialty bulbs oven bulbs the heat lamp bulb that we use in incandescent lamp bulb that we use in incandescent lamp bulb that we use in incandescent saunas um and um that regulated saunas um and um that regulated saunas um and um that regulated everything kind of downwards in terms of everything kind of downwards in terms of everything kind of downwards in terms of what's the maximum bulb you can buy so what's the maximum bulb you can buy so what's the maximum bulb you can buy so you can go to Home Depot and and uh the you can go to Home Depot and and uh the you can go to Home Depot and and uh the the you know the Walmart and the other the you know the Walmart and the other the you know the Walmart and the other stores and you'll still find it but it stores and you'll still find it but it stores and you'll still find it but it won't be 60 watt it'll be50 2 Watt and won't be 60 watt it'll be50 2 Watt and won't be 60 watt it'll be50 2 Watt and it'll be 28 Watt and so the maximum
23:00it'll be 28 Watt and so the maximum it'll be 28 Watt and so the maximum wattage you see out there is just under wattage you see out there is just under wattage you see out there is just under 60 watt now in terms of a home 60 watt now in terms of a home 60 watt now in terms of a home incandescent bulb and that's in EUR incandescent bulb and that's in EUR incandescent bulb and that's in EUR that's in the USA I'm referring to that that's in the USA I'm referring to that that's in the USA I'm referring to that was a law that was passed you know only was a law that was passed you know only was a law that was passed you know only a few years ago so they're still a few years ago so they're still a few years ago so they're still available they're just um there's the available they're just um there's the available they're just um there's the maximum wattages have been dramatically maximum wattages have been dramatically maximum wattages have been dramatically reduced um but all the specialty bulbs reduced um but all the specialty bulbs reduced um but all the specialty bulbs are exempt and if we go to Europe and are exempt and if we go to Europe and are exempt and if we go to Europe and Australia where there's a more Australia where there's a more Australia where there's a more aggressive ban basically a complete ban aggressive ban basically a complete ban aggressive ban basically a complete ban on incadescent there's still actually an on incadescent there's still actually an on incadescent there's still actually an exemption for specialty bulbs okay so exemption for specialty bulbs okay so exemption for specialty bulbs okay so you can still get incandescent um 250 you can still get incandescent um 250 you can still get incandescent um 250 watt son therapy bulbs in Europe in watt son therapy bulbs in Europe in watt son therapy bulbs in Europe in Australia in New Zealand in places that Australia in New Zealand in places that Australia in New Zealand in places that it seems like they're not available at it seems like they're not available at it seems like they're not available at all okay thank you for expanding on that all okay thank you for expanding on that all okay thank you for expanding on that and now let's shift to the therapeutic and now let's shift to the therapeutic and now let's shift to the therapeutic use which is one of your Specialties and use which is one of your Specialties and use which is one of your Specialties and using uh these NE infrared bulbs which using uh these NE infrared bulbs which using uh these NE infrared bulbs which we've discussed for healing and uh but we've discussed for healing and uh but we've discussed for healing and uh but before we delve into that I just want to before we delve into that I just want to before we delve into that I just want to continue to clear up the confusion and continue to clear up the confusion and continue to clear up the confusion and the distinction between far fored and the distinction between far fored and the distinction between far fored and near fored because many of the far fored
24:00near fored because many of the far fored near fored because many of the far fored saunas are advertised as full spectrum saunas are advertised as full spectrum saunas are advertised as full spectrum no EMF and I'd like you to address that no EMF and I'd like you to address that no EMF and I'd like you to address that because that has not been my experience because that has not been my experience because that has not been my experience in fact uh prior to using your sauna I in fact uh prior to using your sauna I in fact uh prior to using your sauna I was using a sauna that was advertised as was using a sauna that was advertised as was using a sauna that was advertised as that and did the due diligence and found that and did the due diligence and found that and did the due diligence and found out that in fact it was just far INF out that in fact it was just far INF out that in fact it was just far INF Fred there was no there was maybe a Fred there was no there was maybe a Fred there was no there was maybe a touch of near but no near infrared or touch of near but no near infrared or touch of near but no near infrared or virtually none and they were claiming it virtually none and they were claiming it virtually none and they were claiming it was and it said it was no MF well yeah was and it said it was no MF well yeah was and it said it was no MF well yeah there was no magnetic fields but it was there was no magnetic fields but it was there was no magnetic fields but it was loaded absolutely loaded with electrical loaded absolutely loaded with electrical loaded absolutely loaded with electrical fields which are very very difficult to fields which are very very difficult to fields which are very very difficult to measure in a source of massive confusion measure in a source of massive confusion measure in a source of massive confusion even within the building biology even within the building biology even within the building biology Community yeah so so there's so so it is Community yeah so so there's so so it is Community yeah so so there's so so it is a misnomer uh most Infrareds out there a misnomer uh most Infrareds out there a misnomer uh most Infrareds out there almost all of them actually um are far almost all of them actually um are far almost all of them actually um are far infrared so they're entirely far they're infrared so they're entirely far they're infrared so they're entirely far they're they're relying on fared wavelengths of they're relying on fared wavelengths of they're relying on fared wavelengths of 3,000 nanometers and greater the very 3,000 nanometers and greater the very 3,000 nanometers and greater the very low energy infrared for the heat now low energy infrared for the heat now low energy infrared for the heat now you got to be careful here because there
25:00you got to be careful here because there you got to be careful here because there are so-called full spectrum infrared are so-called full spectrum infrared are so-called full spectrum infrared saunas now where they have the farm for saunas now where they have the farm for saunas now where they have the farm for emitters for heat but they've added in emitters for heat but they've added in emitters for heat but they've added in uh near infrared emitters in one of two uh near infrared emitters in one of two uh near infrared emitters in one of two ways one way is to use ways one way is to use ways one way is to use LEDs and you can make near uh LED uh LEDs and you can make near uh LED uh LEDs and you can make near uh LED uh light emitting diodes now that emit only light emitting diodes now that emit only light emitting diodes now that emit only one monochromatic neared wavelength so one monochromatic neared wavelength so one monochromatic neared wavelength so they'll add a few of those in to to be they'll add a few of those in to to be they'll add a few of those in to to be able to claim that there's near infrared able to claim that there's near infrared able to claim that there's near infrared and therefore it's all it's full and therefore it's all it's full and therefore it's all it's full spectrum when it's not it's it's really spectrum when it's not it's it's really spectrum when it's not it's it's really really really really two two technologies that they're trying two two technologies that they're trying two two technologies that they're trying to bring together and create a composite to bring together and create a composite to bring together and create a composite full spectrum but it still doesn't have full spectrum but it still doesn't have full spectrum but it still doesn't have the same natural shape as as an the same natural shape as as an the same natural shape as as an incandescent bulb as the sunlight um incandescent bulb as the sunlight um incandescent bulb as the sunlight um it's it's it's in fact you know inferior it's it's it's in fact you know inferior it's it's it's in fact you know inferior in terms of the shape of the spectrum in terms of the shape of the spectrum in terms of the shape of the spectrum and it's not covering all the and it's not covering all the and it's not covering all the wavelengths in the same uh natural power wavelengths in the same uh natural power wavelengths in the same uh natural power curve um there's also some saas that use curve um there's also some saas that use curve um there's also some saas that use uh low Radiance uh near infr emitters uh low Radiance uh near infr emitters uh low Radiance uh near infr emitters they're basically heating elements that they're basically heating elements that they're basically heating elements that are hotter than the far for Reds and
26:00are hotter than the far for Reds and are hotter than the far for Reds and they do emit a small amount of near INF they do emit a small amount of near INF they do emit a small amount of near INF fored but it's at a very low power level fored but it's at a very low power level fored but it's at a very low power level what we call in light therapy IR what we call in light therapy IR what we call in light therapy IR Radiance so they're there but please Radiance so they're there but please Radiance so they're there but please expand on that term You' mentioned it a expand on that term You' mentioned it a expand on that term You' mentioned it a few times and that is the most the best few times and that is the most the best few times and that is the most the best most precise scientific term but most precise scientific term but most precise scientific term but virtually everyone watching this doesn't virtually everyone watching this doesn't virtually everyone watching this doesn't know what that means and it's a powerful know what that means and it's a powerful know what that means and it's a powerful term so please expand it yeah so so a term so please expand it yeah so so a term so please expand it yeah so so a Radiance is is literally the power Radiance is is literally the power Radiance is is literally the power density so power it's measured in per density so power it's measured in per density so power it's measured in per meter squared is the standard units so meter squared is the standard units so meter squared is the standard units so watts is power that's how much power we watts is power that's how much power we watts is power that's how much power we get from electricity um a a light bulb get from electricity um a a light bulb get from electricity um a a light bulb is typically you know an incandescent is typically you know an incandescent is typically you know an incandescent bulb is 250 Watts so we know it's high bulb is 250 Watts so we know it's high bulb is 250 Watts so we know it's high powerered so watts per meter squared or powerered so watts per meter squared or powerered so watts per meter squared or how many how much power is being how many how much power is being how many how much power is being received across an area in space and received across an area in space and received across an area in space and that's what power density is so it's a that's what power density is so it's a that's what power density is so it's a power that's received across you know a power that's received across you know a power that's received across you know a surface area in space so when we look at surface area in space so when we look at surface area in space so when we look at light sources in terms of like how much light sources in terms of like how much light sources in terms of like how much light therapy are we getting well how light therapy are we getting well how light therapy are we getting well how much dose are we getting we use this we
27:00much dose are we getting we use this we much dose are we getting we use this we measure it by by measuring a Radiance measure it by by measuring a Radiance measure it by by measuring a Radiance because if we know the radiance and we because if we know the radiance and we because if we know the radiance and we know how far away we are from it then we know how far away we are from it then we know how far away we are from it then we know exactly how many jewels we get how know exactly how many jewels we get how know exactly how many jewels we get how how much energy we get dosed with per how much energy we get dosed with per how much energy we get dosed with per second and so if we sit a certain amount second and so if we sit a certain amount second and so if we sit a certain amount of time at a certain distance from a a of time at a certain distance from a a of time at a certain distance from a a light a light source of knowa Radiance light a light source of knowa Radiance light a light source of knowa Radiance and um we can figure out exactly how and um we can figure out exactly how and um we can figure out exactly how many how much energy we receive per unit many how much energy we receive per unit many how much energy we receive per unit time time time so uh this in in in in the in in the so uh this in in in in the in in the so uh this in in in in the in in the scientific World they use this term a scientific World they use this term a scientific World they use this term a Radiance but it's basically power over Radiance but it's basically power over Radiance but it's basically power over an area and um it varies widely with an area and um it varies widely with an area and um it varies widely with different you know light Technologies of different you know light Technologies of different you know light Technologies of course and there's some in inexpensive course and there's some in inexpensive course and there's some in inexpensive meters that can objectively measure this meters that can objectively measure this meters that can objectively measure this it's a light meter essentially energy it's a light meter essentially energy it's a light meter essentially energy light meter yeah they're called Radiance light meter yeah they're called Radiance light meter yeah they're called Radiance meters and uh a solar panel um PE uh meters and uh a solar panel um PE uh meters and uh a solar panel um PE uh people who install solar panels will use people who install solar panels will use people who install solar panels will use them to measure the the aradian them to measure the the aradian them to measure the the aradian um you know of the sun and the radiance
28:00um you know of the sun and the radiance um you know of the sun and the radiance received by the solar panel uh it's a received by the solar panel uh it's a received by the solar panel uh it's a very affordable meter actually you can very affordable meter actually you can very affordable meter actually you can buy the typical consumer meters measure buy the typical consumer meters measure buy the typical consumer meters measure between 400 and 1100 nanometers so between 400 and 1100 nanometers so between 400 and 1100 nanometers so they're measuring basically visible they're measuring basically visible they're measuring basically visible light and the photo and interestingly light and the photo and interestingly light and the photo and interestingly the photop modulation section of near the photop modulation section of near the photop modulation section of near infrared so you can use a consumer or infrared so you can use a consumer or infrared so you can use a consumer or Radiance meter and basically figure out Radiance meter and basically figure out Radiance meter and basically figure out how much uh photobiomodulation how much how much uh photobiomodulation how much how much uh photobiomodulation how much light therapy am I getting from said light therapy am I getting from said light therapy am I getting from said light source yeah and that that's a light source yeah and that that's a light source yeah and that that's a beautiful description and I think with beautiful description and I think with beautiful description and I think with that people can now begin to understand that people can now begin to understand that people can now begin to understand that even the a near infrared composite that even the a near infrared composite that even the a near infrared composite SAA that you described they've got a few SAA that you described they've got a few SAA that you described they've got a few token LED near Infrareds yes token LED near Infrareds yes token LED near Infrareds yes theoretically or or legally you can say theoretically or or legally you can say theoretically or or legally you can say that it's more of a full spectrum but that it's more of a full spectrum but that it's more of a full spectrum but the reality is if you could look at the the reality is if you could look at the the reality is if you could look at the irradiance it's it's clinically irradiance it's it's clinically irradiance it's it's clinically insignificant it's not going to do insignificant it's not going to do insignificant it's not going to do diddly squat yeah and that's that's diddly squat yeah and that's that's diddly squat yeah and that's that's right you look at you know there is one right you look at you know there is one right you look at you know there is one study I could I direct you to where in study I could I direct you to where in study I could I direct you to where in even incredibly low levels of a Radiance even incredibly low levels of a Radiance even incredibly low levels of a Radiance do have some biological response to them
29:00do have some biological response to them do have some biological response to them but in the light therapy World in but in the light therapy World in but in the light therapy World in therapeutic kind of medical um light therapeutic kind of medical um light therapeutic kind of medical um light therapy uh there's a certain like therapy uh there's a certain like therapy uh there's a certain like minimum of Radiance a certain power minimum of Radiance a certain power minimum of Radiance a certain power level you need for to get clinical level you need for to get clinical level you need for to get clinical results so um it's it's actually you results so um it's it's actually you results so um it's it's actually you know between like 10 and 100 Mills per know between like 10 and 100 Mills per know between like 10 and 100 Mills per centimeter squared it's just you know centimeter squared it's just you know centimeter squared it's just you know that's just uh you can look look this up that's just uh you can look look this up that's just uh you can look look this up it's widely available online but you it's widely available online but you it's widely available online but you need to re reach that minimum level and need to re reach that minimum level and need to re reach that minimum level and so you can figure out really easily on so you can figure out really easily on so you can figure out really easily on your own with this consumer Radiance your own with this consumer Radiance your own with this consumer Radiance meter am I getting a a therapeutic dose meter am I getting a a therapeutic dose meter am I getting a a therapeutic dose am I getting a therapeutic level and and am I getting a therapeutic level and and am I getting a therapeutic level and and with these farmed saunas that use LEDs with these farmed saunas that use LEDs with these farmed saunas that use LEDs there's not enough LEDs and you're not there's not enough LEDs and you're not there's not enough LEDs and you're not close enough to it and it's not exposing close enough to it and it's not exposing close enough to it and it's not exposing your entire body to it so it's it's your entire body to it so it's it's your entire body to it so it's it's really inferior it's a really inferior really inferior it's a really inferior really inferior it's a really inferior way to to get uh get llt to get near for way to to get uh get llt to get near for way to to get uh get llt to get near for red wavelengths at an at enough power red wavelengths at an at enough power red wavelengths at an at enough power level to be uh significant to be level to be uh significant to be level to be uh significant to be effective yeah absolutely effective yeah absolutely effective yeah absolutely so uh and just to finish that off to
30:00so uh and just to finish that off to so uh and just to finish that off to descend to 100 jewles per centimet descend to 100 jewles per centimet descend to 100 jewles per centimet squared uh it's the range probably get squared uh it's the range probably get squared uh it's the range probably get one closer to the 10 to 20 uh but if you one closer to the 10 to 20 uh but if you one closer to the 10 to 20 uh but if you go over 100 then you actually can be go over 100 then you actually can be go over 100 then you actually can be counterproductive you can get too much counterproductive you can get too much counterproductive you can get too much energy and certainly that in energy and certainly that in energy and certainly that in photobiomodulation that can actually photobiomodulation that can actually photobiomodulation that can actually have different effects actually shut have different effects actually shut have different effects actually shut down receptors so you have to be careful down receptors so you have to be careful down receptors so you have to be careful yeah I mean that's a great point to to yeah I mean that's a great point to to yeah I mean that's a great point to to make Dr mle it really uh we need to be make Dr mle it really uh we need to be make Dr mle it really uh we need to be careful what are we doing here uh even careful what are we doing here uh even careful what are we doing here uh even with sauna even with light therapy we with sauna even with light therapy we with sauna even with light therapy we don't want an unlimited amount of these don't want an unlimited amount of these don't want an unlimited amount of these things just like you can't be in the Sun things just like you can't be in the Sun things just like you can't be in the Sun for unlimited amount you don't want to for unlimited amount you don't want to for unlimited amount you don't want to be in the sauna for eight hours with the be in the sauna for eight hours with the be in the sauna for eight hours with the SAA you want to heat shock the body SAA you want to heat shock the body SAA you want to heat shock the body raise cell temperature a few degrees and raise cell temperature a few degrees and raise cell temperature a few degrees and you get all these uh detox and other you get all these uh detox and other you get all these uh detox and other cellular responses due to the heat shock cellular responses due to the heat shock cellular responses due to the heat shock the same thing with the light you want the same thing with the light you want the same thing with the light you want to get a certain kind of natural level to get a certain kind of natural level to get a certain kind of natural level of Radiance you know 20 30 40 Mills per of Radiance you know 20 30 40 Mills per of Radiance you know 20 30 40 Mills per centet squared for a certain amount of centet squared for a certain amount of centet squared for a certain amount of time and that activates the healing time and that activates the healing time and that activates the healing systems and the cells in the body and systems and the cells in the body and systems and the cells in the body and then let the body do work um if you look then let the body do work um if you look then let the body do work um if you look at the llt rature the reason it's called
31:00at the llt rature the reason it's called at the llt rature the reason it's called low-level life therapy is because it's low-level life therapy is because it's low-level life therapy is because it's also referred to as as low level laser also referred to as as low level laser also referred to as as low level laser therapy um the original uh light therapy therapy um the original uh light therapy therapy um the original uh light therapy studies were done with lasers which are studies were done with lasers which are studies were done with lasers which are high powerered sources where the high powerered sources where the high powerered sources where the radiance is incredibly High um and and radiance is incredibly High um and and radiance is incredibly High um and and what was found was that uh just like what was found was that uh just like what was found was that uh just like getting too much UV or getting too much getting too much UV or getting too much getting too much UV or getting too much of anything you it's too much energy for of anything you it's too much energy for of anything you it's too much energy for the system and you can damage it um and the system and you can damage it um and the system and you can damage it um and so you see that uh if you see studies so you see that uh if you see studies so you see that uh if you see studies where near infrared wavelengths have where near infrared wavelengths have where near infrared wavelengths have been shown to to be damaging to the been shown to to be damaging to the been shown to to be damaging to the cells and you you have to look at the cells and you you have to look at the cells and you you have to look at the radiance levels that they're being radiance levels that they're being radiance levels that they're being they're using the setting you see that they're using the setting you see that they're using the setting you see that they're incredibly High U just like just they're incredibly High U just like just they're incredibly High U just like just like uh if you use if you get too much like uh if you use if you get too much like uh if you use if you get too much near INF fored or too much infrared you near INF fored or too much infrared you near INF fored or too much infrared you can burn can burn can burn yourself it's all about getting a a yourself it's all about getting a a yourself it's all about getting a a natural level of dosage and it's the natural level of dosage and it's the natural level of dosage and it's the same thing with like the Ros species um same thing with like the Ros species um same thing with like the Ros species um the reactive oxygen species that's kind the reactive oxygen species that's kind the reactive oxygen species that's kind of you know Dr Hamlin has article where of you know Dr Hamlin has article where of you know Dr Hamlin has article where he calls called Friend or Foe where he
32:00he calls called Friend or Foe where he he calls called Friend or Foe where he you know is this good thing for us is a you know is this good thing for us is a you know is this good thing for us is a bad thing for us how if it's associated bad thing for us how if it's associated bad thing for us how if it's associated with so many problems because it's a with so many problems because it's a with so many problems because it's a free radical if it's you know if it's if free radical if it's you know if it's if free radical if it's you know if it's if it's activated produced by blue light it's activated produced by blue light it's activated produced by blue light exposure or or other in oxidated stress exposure or or other in oxidated stress exposure or or other in oxidated stress scenarios why is it with mitochondrial scenarios why is it with mitochondrial scenarios why is it with mitochondrial stimulation when we do llt it's a good stimulation when we do llt it's a good stimulation when we do llt it's a good thing and that's because we're we're thing and that's because we're we're thing and that's because we're we're doing it in this context of doing it in this context of doing it in this context of mitochondrial simulation where we're mitochondrial simulation where we're mitochondrial simulation where we're producing the nitric oxide release and producing the nitric oxide release and producing the nitric oxide release and increased ATP production increased ATP production increased ATP production and they all work together in concert to and they all work together in concert to and they all work together in concert to promote healing effects and DNA repair promote healing effects and DNA repair promote healing effects and DNA repair effects and and regenerative effects and effects and and regenerative effects and effects and and regenerative effects and and it's all because it's at a measured and it's all because it's at a measured and it's all because it's at a measured dose that's you know uh natural and dose that's you know uh natural and dose that's you know uh natural and reasonable and not too high well let's reasonable and not too high well let's reasonable and not too high well let's just finish up on the LEDs and then just finish up on the LEDs and then just finish up on the LEDs and then transfer into the phototherapy for sound transfer into the phototherapy for sound transfer into the phototherapy for sound of of of detoxification the uh it's important to detoxification the uh it's important to detoxification the uh it's important to understand that I am unaware of any full understand that I am unaware of any full understand that I am unaware of any full spectrum LED uh sauna or light ther and spectrum LED uh sauna or light ther and spectrum LED uh sauna or light ther and it's theoretically possible but you have
33:00it's theoretically possible but you have it's theoretically possible but you have one LED is only goes over a very short one LED is only goes over a very short one LED is only goes over a very short wavelength about 10 nmet so you'd have wavelength about 10 nmet so you'd have wavelength about 10 nmet so you'd have to have hundreds of different to have hundreds of different to have hundreds of different frequencies all over the place and it frequencies all over the place and it frequencies all over the place and it just wouldn't be practical so I don't I just wouldn't be practical so I don't I just wouldn't be practical so I don't I don't know that one exist even so it's don't know that one exist even so it's don't know that one exist even so it's not it's not full spectrum it's not not it's not full spectrum it's not not it's not full spectrum it's not analog LED so you know the only thing analog LED so you know the only thing analog LED so you know the only thing would be an incandescent which is what would be an incandescent which is what would be an incandescent which is what your focus on and I couldn't agree more your focus on and I couldn't agree more your focus on and I couldn't agree more you know I I was pretty unaware of this you know I I was pretty unaware of this you know I I was pretty unaware of this until um I connected with you at until um I connected with you at until um I connected with you at bulletproof and then you really I did I bulletproof and then you really I did I bulletproof and then you really I did I didn't realize the frequ the spectrum didn't realize the frequ the spectrum didn't realize the frequ the spectrum that it was mostly m m I thought it was that it was mostly m m I thought it was that it was mostly m m I thought it was higher and just was or lower and was higher and just was or lower and was higher and just was or lower and was confused so it was really helpful in my confused so it was really helpful in my confused so it was really helpful in my personal experience and using a near personal experience and using a near personal experience and using a near infrared therapy which is what I use infrared therapy which is what I use infrared therapy which is what I use nearly every day that I'm home is it nearly every day that I'm home is it nearly every day that I'm home is it Heats you up really down you don't you Heats you up really down you don't you Heats you up really down you don't you don't need in fact I do not preheat my don't need in fact I do not preheat my don't need in fact I do not preheat my sauna because it's not a conductive it's sauna because it's not a conductive it's sauna because it's not a conductive it's it goes right into your body soon turn it goes right into your body soon turn it goes right into your body soon turn that light on you start heating up it that light on you start heating up it that light on you start heating up it will start to sweat for a few minutes
34:00will start to sweat for a few minutes will start to sweat for a few minutes but you definitely can feel it which but you definitely can feel it which but you definitely can feel it which does not happen in in a farm you have to does not happen in in a farm you have to does not happen in in a farm you have to heat that thing up for 10 15 minutes so heat that thing up for 10 15 minutes so heat that thing up for 10 15 minutes so why don't you talk about phototherapy why don't you talk about phototherapy why don't you talk about phototherapy for for light and maybe expand a bit on for for light and maybe expand a bit on for for light and maybe expand a bit on or elaborate on what I just or elaborate on what I just or elaborate on what I just mentioned well it's it's it's it's mentioned well it's it's it's it's mentioned well it's it's it's it's something that I discovered myself you something that I discovered myself you something that I discovered myself you know I came to incandescent sauna for my know I came to incandescent sauna for my know I came to incandescent sauna for my own health problems I had insomnia some own health problems I had insomnia some own health problems I had insomnia some mind racing I had what I now know is mind racing I had what I now know is mind racing I had what I now know is adrenal fatigue I didn't know what that adrenal fatigue I didn't know what that adrenal fatigue I didn't know what that was I just didn't feel good and I was was I just didn't feel good and I was was I just didn't feel good and I was negative low energy and I had weird acne negative low energy and I had weird acne negative low energy and I had weird acne issues on my torso um but through my issues on my torso um but through my issues on my torso um but through my Google my my sort of my Google research Google my my sort of my Google research Google my my sort of my Google research as people do nowadays to get to get uh as people do nowadays to get to get uh as people do nowadays to get to get uh to get information and take action I to get information and take action I to get information and take action I came across this concept it dates back came across this concept it dates back came across this concept it dates back to Dr Kellogg actually of the early 20th to Dr Kellogg actually of the early 20th to Dr Kellogg actually of the early 20th century and then I subsequently learned century and then I subsequently learned century and then I subsequently learned you know I watch Alexander V's videos as you know I watch Alexander V's videos as you know I watch Alexander V's videos as you mentioned and and many other folks you mentioned and and many other folks you mentioned and and many other folks and uh incandescent light therapy dates and uh incandescent light therapy dates and uh incandescent light therapy dates back a hundred years a long time ago back a hundred years a long time ago back a hundred years a long time ago they were using it to heal lupus they were using it to heal lupus they were using it to heal lupus vulgaris and all these other things so vulgaris and all these other things so vulgaris and all these other things so so you know a long time ago before we
35:00so you know a long time ago before we so you know a long time ago before we had this word photobiomodulation before had this word photobiomodulation before had this word photobiomodulation before we could look at the microscopic level we could look at the microscopic level we could look at the microscopic level see the mitochondria uh we had an see the mitochondria uh we had an see the mitochondria uh we had an understanding that that this light was understanding that that this light was understanding that that this light was healing so I found an old uh doctor's um healing so I found an old uh doctor's um healing so I found an old uh doctor's um manual um and uh instructed on the on on manual um and uh instructed on the on on manual um and uh instructed on the on on how to build your own incandescent how to build your own incandescent how to build your own incandescent Lampson I built my own and had this Lampson I built my own and had this Lampson I built my own and had this amazing uh healing just amazing healing amazing uh healing just amazing healing amazing uh healing just amazing healing experience completely resolved all of my experience completely resolved all of my experience completely resolved all of my problems uh very met insomnia problems uh very met insomnia problems uh very met insomnia immediately and over over over a period immediately and over over over a period immediately and over over over a period of months you know everything else and of months you know everything else and of months you know everything else and it really blew me away that's what got it really blew me away that's what got it really blew me away that's what got me into all this into incandescent sauna me into all this into incandescent sauna me into all this into incandescent sauna stuff um but since then I've definitely stuff um but since then I've definitely stuff um but since then I've definitely tried other saunas my parents for tried other saunas my parents for tried other saunas my parents for example had a farm for ITA growing up in example had a farm for ITA growing up in example had a farm for ITA growing up in our house um I never really use it very our house um I never really use it very our house um I never really use it very much but it's striking how poorly the much but it's striking how poorly the much but it's striking how poorly the farm fored sauna Heats you you sit in farm fored sauna Heats you you sit in farm fored sauna Heats you you sit in there for like 20 minutes and you're there for like 20 minutes and you're there for like 20 minutes and you're waiting you're waiting waiting you're waiting waiting you're waiting and you're looking at your watch you're and you're looking at your watch you're and you're looking at your watch you're waiting and you know in my sauna and
36:00waiting and you know in my sauna and waiting and you know in my sauna and incandescent sauna you uh it's immediate incandescent sauna you uh it's immediate incandescent sauna you uh it's immediate you you start sweating and and and you you you start sweating and and and you you you start sweating and and and you can feel the heat the heat is very and can feel the heat the heat is very and can feel the heat the heat is very and vital it's getting in there but you know vital it's getting in there but you know vital it's getting in there but you know what it feels good and it feels good what it feels good and it feels good what it feels good and it feels good because it's mitochondrial stimulation because it's mitochondrial stimulation because it's mitochondrial stimulation and it's natural uh full spectrum light and it's natural uh full spectrum light and it's natural uh full spectrum light in the natural shape and formal light as in the natural shape and formal light as in the natural shape and formal light as we're designed to get it so it's a we're designed to get it so it's a we're designed to get it so it's a feel-good heat and a great sweat and we feel-good heat and a great sweat and we feel-good heat and a great sweat and we know now too that it comes with all know now too that it comes with all know now too that it comes with all these benefits of photobi modulation and these benefits of photobi modulation and these benefits of photobi modulation and there's there's other kind of how would there's there's other kind of how would there's there's other kind of how would you describe it kind of synergistic you describe it kind of synergistic you describe it kind of synergistic benefits that you can't just attribute benefits that you can't just attribute benefits that you can't just attribute to the detox of the Heat and the the the to the detox of the Heat and the the the to the detox of the Heat and the the the mitochondrial stimulation of the light mitochondrial stimulation of the light mitochondrial stimulation of the light there's this idea of structured water um there's this idea of structured water um there's this idea of structured water um interfacial water versus unstructured interfacial water versus unstructured interfacial water versus unstructured water lazy water um VCH showed or talks water lazy water um VCH showed or talks water lazy water um VCH showed or talks a lot about how a water nutrient a lot about how a water nutrient a lot about how a water nutrient delivery is is improved when near Fred delivery is is improved when near Fred delivery is is improved when near Fred light hits water and we need that for light hits water and we need that for light hits water and we need that for our Eye Health and we need that for
37:00our Eye Health and we need that for our Eye Health and we need that for every nutrient delivery in every cell of every nutrient delivery in every cell of every nutrient delivery in every cell of our body and in between the cells um but our body and in between the cells um but our body and in between the cells um but you also have other effects too uh you also have other effects too uh you also have other effects too uh structured water is a really interesting structured water is a really interesting structured water is a really interesting thing um it it's uh all the wavelengths thing um it it's uh all the wavelengths thing um it it's uh all the wavelengths of sunlight structure water uh some of sunlight structure water uh some of sunlight structure water uh some structure water better than others like structure water better than others like structure water better than others like far infared wavelengths at 3,000 animers far infared wavelengths at 3,000 animers far infared wavelengths at 3,000 animers do structure a little more effectively do structure a little more effectively do structure a little more effectively than near infared but all wavelengths than near infared but all wavelengths than near infared but all wavelengths blue visible light near INF fored mided blue visible light near INF fored mided blue visible light near INF fored mided far infed they all structure water uh if far infed they all structure water uh if far infed they all structure water uh if you look at the mitochondria it's uh the you look at the mitochondria it's uh the you look at the mitochondria it's uh the the inside of the mitochondria has been the inside of the mitochondria has been the inside of the mitochondria has been shown to almost to be entirely shown to almost to be entirely shown to almost to be entirely structured water and so there's structured water and so there's structured water and so there's something going on there where it has something going on there where it has something going on there where it has like a biological significance and like a biological significance and like a biological significance and importance that that we absolutely need importance that that we absolutely need importance that that we absolutely need and the more we study at the microscopic and the more we study at the microscopic and the more we study at the microscopic level we see that structured water can level we see that structured water can level we see that structured water can be its own chromophor so it can have be its own chromophor so it can have be its own chromophor so it can have non-thermal effects where it it is a non-thermal effects where it it is a non-thermal effects where it it is a vehicle to activate and improve and vehicle to activate and improve and vehicle to activate and improve and optimize biological systems water in optimize biological systems water in optimize biological systems water in this special structured State and so this special structured State and so this special structured State and so just another uh just another uh just another uh kind of kind of kind of another greater argument that we need
38:00another greater argument that we need another greater argument that we need all the wavelengths in the natural form all the wavelengths in the natural form all the wavelengths in the natural form because they're all structured in the because they're all structured in the because they're all structured in the water and some are Heating and some are water and some are Heating and some are water and some are Heating and some are light therapy activating and this is all light therapy activating and this is all light therapy activating and this is all supposed to work in concert the light supposed to work in concert the light supposed to work in concert the light therapy I think for example makes the therapy I think for example makes the therapy I think for example makes the detoxification less stressful less detoxification less stressful less detoxification less stressful less energetic so for folks who have ill energetic so for folks who have ill energetic so for folks who have ill extreme illness who are weak um you know extreme illness who are weak um you know extreme illness who are weak um you know who are just dealing with serious who are just dealing with serious who are just dealing with serious problems they can't use a regular sauna problems they can't use a regular sauna problems they can't use a regular sauna even though they they need to detox they even though they they need to detox they even though they they need to detox they desperately need to desperately need to desperately need to a nearr you know what what we commonly a nearr you know what what we commonly a nearr you know what what we commonly call nearr Sauna is an incandescent call nearr Sauna is an incandescent call nearr Sauna is an incandescent sauna um it gives them access to this sauna um it gives them access to this sauna um it gives them access to this desperately needed detoxification desperately needed detoxification desperately needed detoxification therapy and that includes folks who have therapy and that includes folks who have therapy and that includes folks who have you know neuropathic issues and this is you know neuropathic issues and this is you know neuropathic issues and this is just my experience my humble experience just my experience my humble experience just my experience my humble experience um you know being dealing with this for um you know being dealing with this for um you know being dealing with this for five or six years is folks with severe five or six years is folks with severe five or six years is folks with severe neuropathies and and weakness and heat neuropathies and and weakness and heat neuropathies and and weakness and heat sensitivity they can use an incandescent sensitivity they can use an incandescent sensitivity they can use an incandescent sauna and they can't use a a regular sauna and they can't use a a regular sauna and they can't use a a regular their SAA they just can't tolerate it their SAA they just can't tolerate it their SAA they just can't tolerate it and and hope if you if you if you know
39:00and and hope if you if you if you know and and hope if you if you if you know hope for cancer a world famous cancer hope for cancer a world famous cancer hope for cancer a world famous cancer treatment Clinic based in Mexico they treatment Clinic based in Mexico they treatment Clinic based in Mexico they only use incandescent lamp saunas as only use incandescent lamp saunas as only use incandescent lamp saunas as their detoxification modality because their detoxification modality because their detoxification modality because they know that this is this is what the they know that this is this is what the they know that this is this is what the the weaker folks this is the only thing the weaker folks this is the only thing the weaker folks this is the only thing they can handle so it's another really they can handle so it's another really they can handle so it's another really important aspect here that it's not just important aspect here that it's not just important aspect here that it's not just a better way to do this it's it's a more a better way to do this it's it's a more a better way to do this it's it's a more accessible way to do this is accessible way to do this is accessible way to do this is particularly for folks you know on the particularly for folks you know on the particularly for folks you know on the weaker side of things and we'll talk weaker side of things and we'll talk weaker side of things and we'll talk about that a bit in part of the reason about that a bit in part of the reason about that a bit in part of the reason they can't tolerate is the electrical they can't tolerate is the electrical they can't tolerate is the electrical frequencies which you've addressed and frequencies which you've addressed and frequencies which you've addressed and one of that's one of the things I really one of that's one of the things I really one of that's one of the things I really appreciate about you uh even though you appreciate about you uh even though you appreciate about you uh even though you don't have formal scientific training it don't have formal scientific training it don't have formal scientific training it doesn't matter you're just a smart guy doesn't matter you're just a smart guy doesn't matter you're just a smart guy you know how to use the internet and you you know how to use the internet and you you know how to use the internet and you can think your brain works well and and can think your brain works well and and can think your brain works well and and and you've accomplished quite a bit it's and you've accomplished quite a bit it's and you've accomplished quite a bit it's very impressive so um thank you for very impressive so um thank you for very impressive so um thank you for mentioning structured water component in mentioning structured water component in mentioning structured water component in fact I drink structured water but I fact I drink structured water but I fact I drink structured water but I don't think it's necessary I really don't think it's necessary I really don't think it's necessary I really don't I think it's far more important to don't I think it's far more important to don't I think it's far more important to structure the water in your body through structure the water in your body through structure the water in your body through modali like natural sunlight or far
40:00modali like natural sunlight or far modali like natural sunlight or far infared or not far the near infrared infared or not far the near infrared infared or not far the near infrared vaults and uh so that's one of the vaults and uh so that's one of the vaults and uh so that's one of the reasons why I do it every day now reasons why I do it every day now reasons why I do it every day now theoretically I don't need to use one in theoretically I don't need to use one in theoretically I don't need to use one in the summer I could probably generate the the summer I could probably generate the the summer I could probably generate the same response just walking on the beach same response just walking on the beach same response just walking on the beach uh and just almost sweat as much uh and just almost sweat as much uh and just almost sweat as much depending on this time of year but I depending on this time of year but I depending on this time of year but I still use a saw there for yeah and you still use a saw there for yeah and you still use a saw there for yeah and you also live in Florida I mean yeah I know also live in Florida I mean yeah I know also live in Florida I mean yeah I know but hardly anyone lives in the but hardly anyone lives in the but hardly anyone lives in the subtropics so and even in the winter subtropics so and even in the winter subtropics so and even in the winter it's you can't do that so it's there's it's you can't do that so it's there's it's you can't do that so it's there's it's a very valuable too but I'm it's a very valuable too but I'm it's a very valuable too but I'm wondering you had said you built your wondering you had said you built your wondering you had said you built your first near infrared SAA it's not the one first near infrared SAA it's not the one first near infrared SAA it's not the one you're using today because you that's you're using today because you that's you're using today because you that's what you focused on and I'm wondering if what you focused on and I'm wondering if what you focused on and I'm wondering if you if you could comment on Dr Lawrence you if you could comment on Dr Lawrence you if you could comment on Dr Lawrence Wilson I used to call him Larry Wilson Wilson I used to call him Larry Wilson Wilson I used to call him Larry Wilson but it's if you he have to type in the but it's if you he have to type in the but it's if you he have to type in the formal Lawrence to find it in Amazon formal Lawrence to find it in Amazon formal Lawrence to find it in Amazon because you can he has instructions I because you can he has instructions I because you can he has instructions I think it's called sauna therapy you can think it's called sauna therapy you can think it's called sauna therapy you can build in their infrared sauna for a few build in their infrared sauna for a few build in their infrared sauna for a few hundred dollars so is that what you did hundred dollars so is that what you did hundred dollars so is that what you did and yes yes yes comment on that and then and yes yes yes comment on that and then and yes yes yes comment on that and then we'll go into what you've done we'll go into what you've done we'll go into what you've done yeah absolutely I I failed to mention yeah absolutely I I failed to mention yeah absolutely I I failed to mention that in the beginning that is the
41:00that in the beginning that is the that in the beginning that is the doctor's book that that I stumbled upon doctor's book that that I stumbled upon doctor's book that that I stumbled upon actually online Dr Lawrence Wilson Sono actually online Dr Lawrence Wilson Sono actually online Dr Lawrence Wilson Sono therapy for detoxification and healing therapy for detoxification and healing therapy for detoxification and healing uh he's you know back in the day he was uh he's you know back in the day he was uh he's you know back in the day he was the only guy even talking about this and the only guy even talking about this and the only guy even talking about this and he has and he was he was way out there he has and he was he was way out there he has and he was he was way out there he was really way ahead of his time he's he was really way ahead of his time he's he was really way ahead of his time he's still alive today U um still alive and still alive today U um still alive and still alive today U um still alive and well and and yeah I'm I'm endlessly well and and yeah I'm I'm endlessly well and and yeah I'm I'm endlessly thankful for his work in in exploring thankful for his work in in exploring thankful for his work in in exploring this aspect and and basically bringing this aspect and and basically bringing this aspect and and basically bringing it back it was used in Dr Kellogg's uh it back it was used in Dr Kellogg's uh it back it was used in Dr Kellogg's uh sanitariums and his spas and it was used sanitariums and his spas and it was used sanitariums and his spas and it was used by this guy uh Dr denshaw a long time by this guy uh Dr denshaw a long time by this guy uh Dr denshaw a long time ago this Indian uh physician uh for ago this Indian uh physician uh for ago this Indian uh physician uh for light therapy the incandescent bull was light therapy the incandescent bull was light therapy the incandescent bull was in the in the 20s and and the T and the in the in the 20s and and the T and the in the in the 20s and and the T and the 30s but somehow it died it died out as 30s but somehow it died it died out as 30s but somehow it died it died out as so many natural modalities died out uh so many natural modalities died out uh so many natural modalities died out uh you know in the 20s 30s and 40s um and you know in the 20s 30s and 40s um and you know in the 20s 30s and 40s um and and it's only and recently that's come and it's only and recently that's come and it's only and recently that's come back although uh in many Chiropractic back although uh in many Chiropractic back although uh in many Chiropractic schools they used to teach single lamp
42:00schools they used to teach single lamp schools they used to teach single lamp therapy and that's what I have here is therapy and that's what I have here is therapy and that's what I have here is this is a single 250 watt bulb that this is a single 250 watt bulb that this is a single 250 watt bulb that were're using outside of the sauna we were're using outside of the sauna we were're using outside of the sauna we we're shining it close on the body for we're shining it close on the body for we're shining it close on the body for targeted localized relief of localized targeted localized relief of localized targeted localized relief of localized issues that was a part of every of many issues that was a part of every of many issues that was a part of every of many Chiropractic schol um you know in the Chiropractic schol um you know in the Chiropractic schol um you know in the educational curriculum up until the 60s educational curriculum up until the 60s educational curriculum up until the 60s or 70s and then it just kind of went or 70s and then it just kind of went or 70s and then it just kind of went away but uh Dr Wilson uh definitely away but uh Dr Wilson uh definitely away but uh Dr Wilson uh definitely brought this back with his book and brought this back with his book and brought this back with his book and popularized it again so I built um mine popularized it again so I built um mine popularized it again so I built um mine based on his plans and and it was a very based on his plans and and it was a very based on his plans and and it was a very um it was a very bolag product um um you um it was a very bolag product um um you um it was a very bolag product um um you know he for example recommends use using know he for example recommends use using know he for example recommends use using um PVC plumbing pipe to construct a the um PVC plumbing pipe to construct a the um PVC plumbing pipe to construct a the the framework of AA and just use the framework of AA and just use the framework of AA and just use painters cloths from from the hardware painters cloths from from the hardware painters cloths from from the hardware store and use hardware cloth or Farmers store and use hardware cloth or Farmers store and use hardware cloth or Farmers called chicken wire to for the bulbs and called chicken wire to for the bulbs and called chicken wire to for the bulbs and um yeah so that's what I made and so um yeah so that's what I made and so um yeah so that's what I made and so uh it did work it worked incredibly well uh it did work it worked incredibly well uh it did work it worked incredibly well for me but it does have some serious uh
43:00for me but it does have some serious uh for me but it does have some serious uh disadvantages um you from experience disadvantages um you from experience disadvantages um you from experience what other the disadvantages so one we what other the disadvantages so one we what other the disadvantages so one we want it to be hypoallergenic you know want it to be hypoallergenic you know want it to be hypoallergenic you know number one we want natural materials we number one we want natural materials we number one we want natural materials we don't want a bunch of off gasing of don't want a bunch of off gasing of don't want a bunch of off gasing of plastic so you need to address that plastic so you need to address that plastic so you need to address that that's a that's a real big issue two that's a that's a real big issue two that's a that's a real big issue two these bulbs are hot we need to protect these bulbs are hot we need to protect these bulbs are hot we need to protect ourselves from the bulbs and U just a ourselves from the bulbs and U just a ourselves from the bulbs and U just a hardware cloth or some flexible wires is hardware cloth or some flexible wires is hardware cloth or some flexible wires is not sufficient we need can burn yourself not sufficient we need can burn yourself not sufficient we need can burn yourself you never want to touch the surface of you never want to touch the surface of you never want to touch the surface of the incandescent bulb you can burn the incandescent bulb you can burn the incandescent bulb you can burn yourself U so you need hard uh you know yourself U so you need hard uh you know yourself U so you need hard uh you know a professional protection from that you a professional protection from that you a professional protection from that you know a good something that's not know a good something that's not know a good something that's not negligently designed so those are some negligently designed so those are some negligently designed so those are some basic product design issues that I've basic product design issues that I've basic product design issues that I've addressed in in in my saunas U but more addressed in in in my saunas U but more addressed in in in my saunas U but more interestingly and harder to address are interestingly and harder to address are interestingly and harder to address are the electric field and magnetic field the electric field and magnetic field the electric field and magnetic field mitigation so emfs um they stress us out mitigation so emfs um they stress us out mitigation so emfs um they stress us out they're nervous system stressors and uh they're nervous system stressors and uh they're nervous system stressors and uh we need to address both of them and we need to address both of them and we need to address both of them and they're actually addressed in totally
44:00they're actually addressed in totally they're actually addressed in totally different ways and this is a big Noma different ways and this is a big Noma different ways and this is a big Noma that you you touched on earlier Dr mola that you you touched on earlier Dr mola that you you touched on earlier Dr mola um these so-called farm fored saas that um these so-called farm fored saas that um these so-called farm fored saas that are described as low EMF um they're when are described as low EMF um they're when are described as low EMF um they're when they say they're low EMF they're only they say they're low EMF they're only they say they're low EMF they're only talking about magnetic field so they're talking about magnetic field so they're talking about magnetic field so they're only talking about one half of the only talking about one half of the only talking about one half of the picture here both magnetic field and picture here both magnetic field and picture here both magnetic field and electric field are nervous system electric field are nervous system electric field are nervous system stressors we don't want either of them stressors we don't want either of them stressors we don't want either of them from our electrical device they interact from our electrical device they interact from our electrical device they interact with our bodies in different ways with our bodies in different ways with our bodies in different ways certainly but they also uh you know are certainly but they also uh you know are certainly but they also uh you know are different in in nature so magnetic different in in nature so magnetic different in in nature so magnetic fields are hard to um to mitigate fields are hard to um to mitigate fields are hard to um to mitigate they're really hard to Shield to uh they're really hard to Shield to uh they're really hard to Shield to uh Shield them in in like big physical Shield them in in like big physical Shield them in in like big physical permanent structures you use mu metals permanent structures you use mu metals permanent structures you use mu metals and other special metallic plating to and other special metallic plating to and other special metallic plating to make the magnetic field go around the make the magnetic field go around the make the magnetic field go around the volume because you can't really Shield volume because you can't really Shield volume because you can't really Shield it you just kind of divert it deflect it it you just kind of divert it deflect it it you just kind of divert it deflect it yeah um but what else you can do is to yeah um but what else you can do is to yeah um but what else you can do is to use two magnetic fields to cancel each use two magnetic fields to cancel each use two magnetic fields to cancel each other out so that's uh that's been my
45:00other out so that's uh that's been my other out so that's uh that's been my solution it's uh in in in you know in in solution it's uh in in in you know in in solution it's uh in in in you know in in the saas that we're making here um is to the saas that we're making here um is to the saas that we're making here um is to take one magnetic field and um use a take one magnetic field and um use a take one magnetic field and um use a different magnetic field and cancel it different magnetic field and cancel it different magnetic field and cancel it out so that the effective magnetic field out so that the effective magnetic field out so that the effective magnetic field from the device that you measure with a from the device that you measure with a from the device that you measure with a gaus meter um doesn't extend you know gaus meter um doesn't extend you know gaus meter um doesn't extend you know farther than a few inches from from the farther than a few inches from from the farther than a few inches from from the electrical body of the device and that's electrical body of the device and that's electrical body of the device and that's the case you know and we can ically show the case you know and we can ically show the case you know and we can ically show that so that's been uh a solution that that so that's been uh a solution that that so that's been uh a solution that took a while to figure out but that only took a while to figure out but that only took a while to figure out but that only addresses the magnetic field so again addresses the magnetic field so again addresses the magnetic field so again what about electric field all of these what about electric field all of these what about electric field all of these Farm Fred saunas like uh like I believe Farm Fred saunas like uh like I believe Farm Fred saunas like uh like I believe the sauna you used to have the um the sauna you used to have the um the sauna you used to have the um absolutely the farm Fred sort of a tent absolutely the farm Fred sort of a tent absolutely the farm Fred sort of a tent tent tent bag style sauna that your head tent tent bag style sauna that your head tent tent bag style sauna that your head sticks out of also the the half saas sticks out of also the the half saas sticks out of also the the half saas that I've seen that are kind of a half that I've seen that are kind of a half that I've seen that are kind of a half cabinet um to the full blown cabinet cabinet um to the full blown cabinet cabinet um to the full blown cabinet farm for Ed saas they have extremely farm for Ed saas they have extremely farm for Ed saas they have extremely high electric field so electric field is high electric field so electric field is high electric field so electric field is measured in volts per meter whereas
46:00measured in volts per meter whereas measured in volts per meter whereas magnetic field is measured in milligals magnetic field is measured in milligals magnetic field is measured in milligals so nanotesla or nanotesla correct um uh so nanotesla or nanotesla correct um uh so nanotesla or nanotesla correct um uh but we're using two totally different but we're using two totally different but we're using two totally different meters to measure this so you can meters to measure this so you can meters to measure this so you can measure all day long with a gaus meter measure all day long with a gaus meter measure all day long with a gaus meter to measure magnetic field show that it's to measure magnetic field show that it's to measure magnetic field show that it's low and yet the electric field is very low and yet the electric field is very low and yet the electric field is very high and you're still getting that high and you're still getting that high and you're still getting that nervous system stress and you need to be nervous system stress and you need to be nervous system stress and you need to be disclosing and showing both sides of the disclosing and showing both sides of the disclosing and showing both sides of the EMF and show that they're both not EMF and show that they're both not EMF and show that they're both not present present present so these Farm Fred saunas that you find so these Farm Fred saunas that you find so these Farm Fred saunas that you find every single one that I've ever measured every single one that I've ever measured every single one that I've ever measured um not just my parents but others out um not just my parents but others out um not just my parents but others out there um if you if you um if you contact there um if you if you um if you contact there um if you if you um if you contact farmr SAA manufacturers and ask them farmr SAA manufacturers and ask them farmr SAA manufacturers and ask them about EMF they'll say yeah yeah we're about EMF they'll say yeah yeah we're about EMF they'll say yeah yeah we're really low it's only only only a few really low it's only only only a few really low it's only only only a few milligals a few milligals and then you milligals a few milligals and then you milligals a few milligals and then you say well what about electric say well what about electric say well what about electric field and they don't even have that field and they don't even have that field and they don't even have that measurement um but if you measure these measurement um but if you measure these measurement um but if you measure these they they're in many volts uh you know they they're in many volts uh you know they they're in many volts uh you know hundreds to thousands of Mill volts hundreds to thousands of Mill volts hundreds to thousands of Mill volts yeah um yeah um yeah um and was putting
47:00and was putting and was putting 65,000 molts in me wow wow so 65 65 65,000 molts in me wow wow so 65 65 65,000 molts in me wow wow so 65 65 volts that's that's very high Vols I volts that's that's very high Vols I volts that's that's very high Vols I mean you that's crazy that that and and mean you that's crazy that that and and mean you that's crazy that that and and that's in a healing space you know that's in a healing space you know that's in a healing space you know space so it's it's h it's something space so it's it's h it's something space so it's it's h it's something that's not that the manufacturers aren't that's not that the manufacturers aren't that's not that the manufacturers aren't aware of and the Public's not aware of and the Public's not aware of and the Public's not necessarily so aware of so it kind of necessarily so aware of so it kind of necessarily so aware of so it kind of goes under the radar but um here uh you goes under the radar but um here uh you goes under the radar but um here uh you know I've been aware of this for a while know I've been aware of this for a while know I've been aware of this for a while and I've spent a lot of time thinking and I've spent a lot of time thinking and I've spent a lot of time thinking about how to address it and I've I've about how to address it and I've I've about how to address it and I've I've basically done so through shielding and basically done so through shielding and basically done so through shielding and grounding principles okay before we go grounding principles okay before we go grounding principles okay before we go there I just want there I just want there I just want to establish the challenge it is to to establish the challenge it is to to establish the challenge it is to measure electric field it's not an easy measure electric field it's not an easy measure electric field it's not an easy thing to measure and some of the meters thing to measure and some of the meters thing to measure and some of the meters you mentioned do have like the trifield you mentioned do have like the trifield you mentioned do have like the trifield which is fairly good screen for magnetic which is fairly good screen for magnetic which is fairly good screen for magnetic fields does have the ability to measure fields does have the ability to measure fields does have the ability to measure electric Fields but it's kind of electric Fields but it's kind of electric Fields but it's kind of worthless it doesn't measure it well the worthless it doesn't measure it well the worthless it doesn't measure it well the only way you can do it is you have to only way you can do it is you have to only way you can do it is you have to have reference it to a ground which in have reference it to a ground which in have reference it to a ground which in itself is a g because of dirty itself is a g because of dirty itself is a g because of dirty electricity Which is far more complex electricity Which is far more complex electricity Which is far more complex than we have time for to address today
48:00than we have time for to address today than we have time for to address today but nevertheless these instruments are but nevertheless these instruments are but nevertheless these instruments are hundreds and hundreds of dollars and hundreds and hundreds of dollars and hundreds and hundreds of dollars and some of them thousands of dollars to some of them thousands of dollars to some of them thousands of dollars to measure this accurately to get a a good measure this accurately to get a a good measure this accurately to get a a good idea of what your electric field idea of what your electric field idea of what your electric field exposure is in your exposure is in your exposure is in your body yes yes that's that's the issue is body yes yes that's that's the issue is body yes yes that's that's the issue is is is uh definitely with magnetic field is is uh definitely with magnetic field is is uh definitely with magnetic field but also electric field we don't care so but also electric field we don't care so but also electric field we don't care so much what's going on around us as we much what's going on around us as we much what's going on around us as we care what is the influence on the body care what is the influence on the body care what is the influence on the body and so you you have to use specialized and so you you have to use specialized and so you you have to use specialized uh voltage meters called body voltage uh voltage meters called body voltage uh voltage meters called body voltage meters where we're measuring the voltage meters where we're measuring the voltage meters where we're measuring the voltage uh reading of the person's body and uh reading of the person's body and uh reading of the person's body and that's what we wanted to minimize and that's what we wanted to minimize and that's what we wanted to minimize and address and mitigate so uh you can use a address and mitigate so uh you can use a address and mitigate so uh you can use a trifield meter which is not grounded so trifield meter which is not grounded so trifield meter which is not grounded so it's not nearly as sensitive as a more it's not nearly as sensitive as a more it's not nearly as sensitive as a more expensive grounded uh voltage meter or expensive grounded uh voltage meter or expensive grounded uh voltage meter or electric field meter um but you're still electric field meter um but you're still electric field meter um but you're still not getting an accurate picture of not getting an accurate picture of not getting an accurate picture of what's going on with you you're getting what's going on with you you're getting what's going on with you you're getting you're measuring the air in front of you you're measuring the air in front of you you're measuring the air in front of you or the desk in front of you when you use or the desk in front of you when you use or the desk in front of you when you use body voltage meter um and there are a body voltage meter um and there are a body voltage meter um and there are a few of them I mean the one that I use is
49:00few of them I mean the one that I use is few of them I mean the one that I use is is very sensitive you has gold is very sensitive you has gold is very sensitive you has gold componentry it's it's one of the most componentry it's it's one of the most componentry it's it's one of the most sensitive it is very expensive as well sensitive it is very expensive as well sensitive it is very expensive as well um but there are some body voltage um but there are some body voltage um but there are some body voltage meters out there that are only a couple meters out there that are only a couple meters out there that are only a couple hundred dollars or less and uh for folks hundred dollars or less and uh for folks hundred dollars or less and uh for folks who are really interested in it it is a who are really interested in it it is a who are really interested in it it is a fascinating experience to get your body fascinating experience to get your body fascinating experience to get your body voltage meter and go around your house voltage meter and go around your house voltage meter and go around your house and lay in your bed and realize how much and lay in your bed and realize how much and lay in your bed and realize how much voltage you actually have everywhere all voltage you actually have everywhere all voltage you actually have everywhere all around um but yeah that's it once you a around um but yeah that's it once you a around um but yeah that's it once you a a coer body voltage meter is grounded a coer body voltage meter is grounded a coer body voltage meter is grounded because the voltage meter is measuring because the voltage meter is measuring because the voltage meter is measuring the difference in electrical potential the difference in electrical potential the difference in electrical potential between where it's at and um and what between where it's at and um and what between where it's at and um and what what you're measuring and your body what you're measuring and your body what you're measuring and your body influences the voltage rating if it's influences the voltage rating if it's influences the voltage rating if it's not grounded um and it gives you an not grounded um and it gives you an not grounded um and it gives you an inaccurate measurement so when you use a inaccurate measurement so when you use a inaccurate measurement so when you use a a proper grounded body voltage meter and a proper grounded body voltage meter and a proper grounded body voltage meter and you're measuring body voltage instead of you're measuring body voltage instead of you're measuring body voltage instead of just the voltage on around the sauna you just the voltage on around the sauna you just the voltage on around the sauna you find that when you sit inside a farm find that when you sit inside a farm find that when you sit inside a farm fored sauna with a body voltage meter fored sauna with a body voltage meter fored sauna with a body voltage meter you'll get thousands of of volts per you'll get thousands of of volts per you'll get thousands of of volts per meter uh you know thousands of Mill
50:00meter uh you know thousands of Mill meter uh you know thousands of Mill volts depending on the meter you're volts depending on the meter you're volts depending on the meter you're using very high T of thousands sometimes using very high T of thousands sometimes using very high T of thousands sometimes or in your case tens of thousands you or in your case tens of thousands you or in your case tens of thousands you know really it varies but all of that is know really it varies but all of that is know really it varies but all of that is way higher than it should be so let's way higher than it should be so let's way higher than it should be so let's talk about ancestral context uh our talk about ancestral context uh our talk about ancestral context uh our Natural Body voltage is only a few Mill Natural Body voltage is only a few Mill Natural Body voltage is only a few Mill volts or less even you know it's it's volts or less even you know it's it's volts or less even you know it's it's almost zero and you know it fluctuates almost zero and you know it fluctuates almost zero and you know it fluctuates and whatnot but it's never above 10 and whatnot but it's never above 10 and whatnot but it's never above 10 molts ever ancestrally pre 1888 we never molts ever ancestrally pre 1888 we never molts ever ancestrally pre 1888 we never had this in our life for a million years had this in our life for a million years had this in our life for a million years we never had any of this man-made uh we never had any of this man-made uh we never had any of this man-made uh electric field stress and we have it now electric field stress and we have it now electric field stress and we have it now 24 hours a day from Dirty electricity 24 hours a day from Dirty electricity 24 hours a day from Dirty electricity from you know our computers and and what from you know our computers and and what from you know our computers and and what I'm talking through you with to um uh I'm talking through you with to um uh I'm talking through you with to um uh you know even driving around in the car you know even driving around in the car you know even driving around in the car you have uh a a synthetic magnetic field you have uh a a synthetic magnetic field you have uh a a synthetic magnetic field generated by the wheels so we have this generated by the wheels so we have this generated by the wheels so we have this magnetic field electric field stress magnetic field electric field stress magnetic field electric field stress that's with us 24 hours a day not to that's with us 24 hours a day not to that's with us 24 hours a day not to mention from the steel belted radials mention from the steel belted radials mention from the steel belted radials rotating which regenerate rotating which regenerate rotating which regenerate yeah yeah yeah I mean and not to mention yeah yeah yeah I mean and not to mention yeah yeah yeah I mean and not to mention that probably the most pernicious source
51:00that probably the most pernicious source that probably the most pernicious source of modern electric field stress and of modern electric field stress and of modern electric field stress and that's cell phone signal uh it's it's that's cell phone signal uh it's it's that's cell phone signal uh it's it's just such high wattage it's so much just such high wattage it's so much just such high wattage it's so much higher you know um you know the the higher you know um you know the the higher you know um you know the the older Generations grew up only with older Generations grew up only with older Generations grew up only with dirty electricity but only in the last dirty electricity but only in the last dirty electricity but only in the last 20 years or more have we begun to 20 years or more have we begun to 20 years or more have we begun to increase and um dramatically the amounts increase and um dramatically the amounts increase and um dramatically the amounts of wattage of microwave signals flying of wattage of microwave signals flying of wattage of microwave signals flying through the air that that get us 24 through the air that that get us 24 through the air that that get us 24 hours a day I mean where can you go hours a day I mean where can you go hours a day I mean where can you go where you don't get a cell phone signal where you don't get a cell phone signal where you don't get a cell phone signal now well we we had radio frequencies in now well we we had radio frequencies in now well we we had radio frequencies in the 30s and 40s from TVs and radio the 30s and 40s from TVs and radio the 30s and 40s from TVs and radio towers but they were and they could be towers but they were and they could be towers but they were and they could be pretty high but they weren't as pretty high but they weren't as pretty high but they weren't as pervasive as cell phones for pervasive as cell phones for pervasive as cell phones for sure yeah and they yeah there were just sure yeah and they yeah there were just sure yeah and they yeah there were just the wattage is just so much greater now the wattage is just so much greater now the wattage is just so much greater now just it's it's so much more ubiquitous just it's it's so much more ubiquitous just it's it's so much more ubiquitous now um so it's a real problem but but now um so it's a real problem but but now um so it's a real problem but but basically in in in in the incens and basically in in in in the incens and basically in in in in the incens and saunas that I've been uh making and saunas that I've been uh making and saunas that I've been uh making and dealing with for many years it all it it dealing with for many years it all it it dealing with for many years it all it it took many years for me to get to this took many years for me to get to this took many years for me to get to this point in the product development but I
52:00point in the product development but I point in the product development but I got to a point where it's like hey we got to a point where it's like hey we got to a point where it's like hey we need to address this electric field need to address this electric field need to address this electric field issue we can't be sitting in the sauna issue we can't be sitting in the sauna issue we can't be sitting in the sauna and be stressing ourselves out with and be stressing ourselves out with and be stressing ourselves out with electric field stress so we basically electric field stress so we basically electric field stress so we basically use uh grounding and shielding use uh grounding and shielding use uh grounding and shielding principles to Pro to ground out and principles to Pro to ground out and principles to Pro to ground out and block out and shield out all the block out and shield out all the block out and shield out all the electric Fields so they don't get to the electric Fields so they don't get to the electric Fields so they don't get to the user so they increase don't increase the user so they increase don't increase the user so they increase don't increase the body voltage and so you see that in in body voltage and so you see that in in body voltage and so you see that in in in in in Mya you measure with a body in in in Mya you measure with a body in in in Mya you measure with a body voltage meter either measuring RF radio voltage meter either measuring RF radio voltage meter either measuring RF radio frequency or measuring dirty electricity frequency or measuring dirty electricity frequency or measuring dirty electricity the low frequency you'll see that it's the low frequency you'll see that it's the low frequency you'll see that it's almost zero it's pretty much zero and almost zero it's pretty much zero and almost zero it's pretty much zero and that is really unque significant yes that is really unque significant yes that is really unque significant yes yeah there's no sauna that on Earth yeah there's no sauna that on Earth yeah there's no sauna that on Earth that's ever done that before so um you that's ever done that before so um you that's ever done that before so um you should get an award for that by the way should get an award for that by the way should get an award for that by the way I I I think it really is quite an achievement think it really is quite an achievement think it really is quite an achievement and you're such so had the curve of this and you're such so had the curve of this and you're such so had the curve of this for really appreciating because one of
53:00for really appreciating because one of for really appreciating because one of the building biologists that uses the building biologists that uses the building biologists that uses geovital is a European or Austrian um geovital is a European or Austrian um geovital is a European or Austrian um specifically in your case it was Brian specifically in your case it was Brian specifically in your case it was Brian Hoyer who's one of your consultants and Hoyer who's one of your consultants and Hoyer who's one of your consultants and actually consulted with my home too um actually consulted with my home too um actually consulted with my home too um he went around and I have to apologize he went around and I have to apologize he went around and I have to apologize for this to all different sauna for this to all different sauna for this to all different sauna manufacturers and every single one that manufacturers and every single one that manufacturers and every single one that he contact refused to address this he contact refused to address this he contact refused to address this electri field component you were the electri field component you were the electri field component you were the only sauna company that wanted to work only sauna company that wanted to work only sauna company that wanted to work with him the only with him the only with him the only contact and because you're it's just contact and because you're it's just contact and because you're it's just part of your personality you're open you part of your personality you're open you part of your personality you're open you always want the best you wanted to do it always want the best you wanted to do it always want the best you wanted to do it the best way possible and you did you the best way possible and you did you the best way possible and you did you now you created what I think is the now you created what I think is the now you created what I think is the ultimate near Red ultimate near Red ultimate near Red SAA yeah it's a it's a thing where if SAA yeah it's a it's a thing where if SAA yeah it's a it's a thing where if you don't know you're doing something you don't know you're doing something you don't know you're doing something wrong then you can't address it but once wrong then you can't address it but once wrong then you can't address it but once you become you get out of the cave and you become you get out of the cave and you become you get out of the cave and you're aware of a problem um it's not you're aware of a problem um it's not you're aware of a problem um it's not just unethical to not address that I just unethical to not address that I just unethical to not address that I mean it's just it's just against my my mean it's just it's just against my my mean it's just it's just against my my very nature uh and and that's the real very nature uh and and that's the real very nature uh and and that's the real really what's carried me this far is is really what's carried me this far is is really what's carried me this far is is once I became aware of how to measure
54:00once I became aware of how to measure once I became aware of how to measure body voltage really really precisely and body voltage really really precisely and body voltage really really precisely and all the principles involved I I I all the principles involved I I I all the principles involved I I I endlessly sought a design solution for endlessly sought a design solution for endlessly sought a design solution for it and the design Solutions are actually it and the design Solutions are actually it and the design Solutions are actually really tricky but really tricky but really tricky but yeah it's it's something that does need yeah it's it's something that does need yeah it's it's something that does need to be addressed and soon as soon as I to be addressed and soon as soon as I to be addressed and soon as soon as I was had the tools and and the knowledge was had the tools and and the knowledge was had the tools and and the knowledge and the awareness to do so I I did so and the awareness to do so I I did so and the awareness to do so I I did so immediately and that's and that's a immediately and that's and that's a immediately and that's and that's a journey you know that um that we're all journey you know that um that we're all journey you know that um that we're all on in life um and even in in the humble on in life um and even in in the humble on in life um and even in in the humble world of consumer products we're also on world of consumer products we're also on world of consumer products we're also on that you know the the consumers they that you know the the consumers they that you know the the consumers they deserve a better product deserve a safer deserve a better product deserve a safer deserve a better product deserve a safer option that's more effective and with option that's more effective and with option that's more effective and with less problems and more more less problems and more more less problems and more more guarantee that's what that's been my guarantee that's what that's been my guarantee that's what that's been my ultimate goal is to to widen this access ultimate goal is to to widen this access ultimate goal is to to widen this access to this because it this the sync to this because it this the sync to this because it this the sync indescent therapy it just works so well indescent therapy it just works so well indescent therapy it just works so well yeah yeah so let's go back to that yeah yeah so let's go back to that yeah yeah so let's go back to that because there's affordability becomes an because there's affordability becomes an because there's affordability becomes an issue because this this technological issue because this this technological issue because this this technological innovation you put together it's kind of innovation you put together it's kind of innovation you put together it's kind of pricey but it's and it is in my view the
55:00pricey but it's and it is in my view the pricey but it's and it is in my view the ultimate but uh if you don't have the ultimate but uh if you don't have the ultimate but uh if you don't have the funds to for that you can go all the way funds to for that you can go all the way funds to for that you can go all the way down like you started with this because down like you started with this because down like you started with this because INF those near infrared bulbs and that's INF those near infrared bulbs and that's INF those near infrared bulbs and that's the core of your sauna are these four the core of your sauna are these four the core of your sauna are these four 250 watt Philip in candescent balls and 250 watt Philip in candescent balls and 250 watt Philip in candescent balls and you can buy those collectively for under you can buy those collectively for under you can buy those collectively for under $25 total uh that doesn't buy any the $25 total uh that doesn't buy any the $25 total uh that doesn't buy any the fixtures or the cords everything to set fixtures or the cords everything to set fixtures or the cords everything to set it up but probably for a few hundred it up but probably for a few hundred it up but probably for a few hundred dollars you can set up something like dollars you can set up something like dollars you can set up something like you did you know I'm you know H I have you did you know I'm you know H I have you did you know I'm you know H I have have this SAA and and I'd like your have this SAA and and I'd like your have this SAA and and I'd like your feedback on this I don't really think feedback on this I don't really think feedback on this I don't really think you need an enclosure if you're not you need an enclosure if you're not you need an enclosure if you're not addressing the electric Fields you could addressing the electric Fields you could addressing the electric Fields you could just put it up in your shower I mean just put it up in your shower I mean just put it up in your shower I mean because it's direct exposure you know because it's direct exposure you know because it's direct exposure you know you think you need to be in a tent no you think you need to be in a tent no you think you need to be in a tent no this is not a far infrared s this is a this is not a far infrared s this is a this is not a far infrared s this is a near that the the the heating occurs near that the the the heating occurs near that the the the heating occurs from the light going into your body and from the light going into your body and from the light going into your body and you don't need a tent for that so well you don't need a tent for that so well you don't need a tent for that so well yeah so so really all you need is uh the yeah so so really all you need is uh the yeah so so really all you need is uh the radiant heat works so well yeah you are radiant heat works so well yeah you are radiant heat works so well yeah you are correct Dr M all you really need is uh
56:00correct Dr M all you really need is uh correct Dr M all you really need is uh exposure air around you to be above body exposure air around you to be above body exposure air around you to be above body temperature yeah 100 degrees so uh yeah temperature yeah 100 degrees so uh yeah temperature yeah 100 degrees so uh yeah you know we we you know we we you know we we you know we we you know we we you know we we manufacture you know we handcraft an manufacture you know we handcraft an manufacture you know we handcraft an entire catalog here including the core entire catalog here including the core entire catalog here including the core of our SAA these these four lights you of our SAA these these four lights you of our SAA these these four lights you know these four 250 watt lights on a a know these four 250 watt lights on a a know these four 250 watt lights on a a shielded device and you know with all shielded device and you know with all shielded device and you know with all the the lifetime warranty and the the the lifetime warranty and the the the lifetime warranty and the quality that we manufacture we sell just quality that we manufacture we sell just quality that we manufacture we sell just that as well because you can use it in a that as well because you can use it in a that as well because you can use it in a closet you can use it in a shower a closet you can use it in a shower a closet you can use it in a shower a shower probably be the most shower you shower probably be the most shower you shower probably be the most shower you can you know we have a lot of folks who can you know we have a lot of folks who can you know we have a lot of folks who have far and frad cabinets on us and have far and frad cabinets on us and have far and frad cabinets on us and they're purchasing just that there you they're purchasing just that there you they're purchasing just that there you know they have buer remorse and and they know they have buer remorse and and they know they have buer remorse and and they want to they want to upgrade to near want to they want to upgrade to near want to they want to upgrade to near infared and and to full spectrum and and infared and and to full spectrum and and infared and and to full spectrum and and to be shielded and so you can put one of to be shielded and so you can put one of to be shielded and so you can put one of one of ours into a farm for at sauna uh one of ours into a farm for at sauna uh one of ours into a farm for at sauna uh you know very affordably and um not have you know very affordably and um not have you know very affordably and um not have to deal with any of the IM stress at all to deal with any of the IM stress at all to deal with any of the IM stress at all from the product you just don't ever from the product you just don't ever from the product you just don't ever have to turn it on you just use the four have to turn it on you just use the four have to turn it on you just use the four walls and ceiling walls and ceiling walls and ceiling same goes with the shower or other you same goes with the shower or other you same goes with the shower or other you know Innovative enclosures that that
57:00know Innovative enclosures that that know Innovative enclosures that that that you know people can think of yeah that you know people can think of yeah that you know people can think of yeah yes indeed so yes indeed so yes indeed so um that is uh that is definitely a a um that is uh that is definitely a a um that is uh that is definitely a a strategy uh so that and and even beyond strategy uh so that and and even beyond strategy uh so that and and even beyond that for folks who are you know that for folks who are you know that for folks who are you know skeptical of the concept or you know the skeptical of the concept or you know the skeptical of the concept or you know the proofs in the pudding and I'm I'm I I proofs in the pudding and I'm I'm I I proofs in the pudding and I'm I'm I I follow that as well I I want I want to follow that as well I I want I want to follow that as well I I want I want to see and feel the results you can start see and feel the results you can start see and feel the results you can start out with one bul you can start out with out with one bul you can start out with out with one bul you can start out with what's called this T targeted therapy so what's called this T targeted therapy so what's called this T targeted therapy so single lamp incandescent therapy and single lamp incandescent therapy and single lamp incandescent therapy and just use that for a localized issue just use that for a localized issue just use that for a localized issue folks are using it for everything from folks are using it for everything from folks are using it for everything from from headaches to to cramps to to skin from headaches to to cramps to to skin from headaches to to cramps to to skin issues to neuropathies and in the limbs issues to neuropathies and in the limbs issues to neuropathies and in the limbs to um just aches and pains from from old to um just aches and pains from from old to um just aches and pains from from old injuries and stuff that's something that injuries and stuff that's something that injuries and stuff that's something that you know anybody can start out with and you know anybody can start out with and you know anybody can start out with and get a feel for this concept and then get a feel for this concept and then get a feel for this concept and then understand well for the full body uh and understand well for the full body uh and understand well for the full body uh and the real detox the real detox the real detox you do need to sweat passively uh and to you do need to sweat passively uh and to you do need to sweat passively uh and to sweat passively we need the air around
58:00sweat passively we need the air around sweat passively we need the air around us to be up 100 degrees typically it's us to be up 100 degrees typically it's us to be up 100 degrees typically it's nice to have an enclosure to do that for nice to have an enclosure to do that for nice to have an enclosure to do that for convenience but um depending on the convenience but um depending on the convenience but um depending on the environment you know that can be gotten environment you know that can be gotten environment you know that can be gotten the the the sauna room could be the size the the the sauna room could be the size the the the sauna room could be the size of a football stadium if it was above of a football stadium if it was above of a football stadium if it was above 100 degrees and you would just sit 100 degrees and you would just sit 100 degrees and you would just sit happily in front of your four 250 watt happily in front of your four 250 watt happily in front of your four 250 watt red filter uh incandescent lamps is that red filter uh incandescent lamps is that red filter uh incandescent lamps is that is that because 100 degrees is hotter is that because 100 degrees is hotter is that because 100 degrees is hotter than body temperature 98 yeah yeah so than body temperature 98 yeah yeah so than body temperature 98 yeah yeah so yeah we we didn't talk too much yet yeah we we didn't talk too much yet yeah we we didn't talk too much yet about the detoxification but that's about the detoxification but that's about the detoxification but that's really what we need and that's why you really what we need and that's why you really what we need and that's why you know at the end of the day it doesn't know at the end of the day it doesn't know at the end of the day it doesn't matter what heat Source you use you matter what heat Source you use you matter what heat Source you use you could even use a hot tub um you need to could even use a hot tub um you need to could even use a hot tub um you need to raise temperature I mean well if we're raise temperature I mean well if we're raise temperature I mean well if we're talking about detoxification and the the talking about detoxification and the the talking about detoxification and the the elimination of of heavy metals and elimination of of heavy metals and elimination of of heavy metals and things like that from the body it's things like that from the body it's things like that from the body it's really that difference between passive really that difference between passive really that difference between passive and active sweating is really key um and and active sweating is really key um and and active sweating is really key um and expand on that elaborate there's a expand on that elaborate there's a expand on that elaborate there's a there's a big misnomer about this there's a big misnomer about this there's a big misnomer about this there's actually a natural Geographic there's actually a natural Geographic there's actually a natural Geographic article that that touches on this where article that that touches on this where article that that touches on this where they it's claimed that that sweating
59:00they it's claimed that that sweating they it's claimed that that sweating doesn't detox you but the the example doesn't detox you but the the example doesn't detox you but the the example they profer is someone who's vigorously they profer is someone who's vigorously they profer is someone who's vigorously actively sweating on a treadmill for two actively sweating on a treadmill for two actively sweating on a treadmill for two hours and the concentration of toxins in hours and the concentration of toxins in hours and the concentration of toxins in their sweat is very very low and that's their sweat is very very low and that's their sweat is very very low and that's true because of this idea of sympathetic true because of this idea of sympathetic true because of this idea of sympathetic and and and parasympathetic okay so the autonomic parasympathetic okay so the autonomic parasympathetic okay so the autonomic nervous system has two states uh it's we nervous system has two states uh it's we nervous system has two states uh it's we learned in high school biology it's learned in high school biology it's learned in high school biology it's fight or flight rest and digest so when fight or flight rest and digest so when fight or flight rest and digest so when we're running on the treadmill all the we're running on the treadmill all the we're running on the treadmill all the cellular and body's energy is going cellular and body's energy is going cellular and body's energy is going towards Locomotion all the energy is towards Locomotion all the energy is towards Locomotion all the energy is going to the muscles and the lungs and going to the muscles and the lungs and going to the muscles and the lungs and the Heart basically and there's no the Heart basically and there's no the Heart basically and there's no cellular reserves or or kind of hormonal cellular reserves or or kind of hormonal cellular reserves or or kind of hormonal gearing for for detoxification or gearing for for detoxification or gearing for for detoxification or cellular repair or anything like that cellular repair or anything like that cellular repair or anything like that and we see that in studies too if you and we see that in studies too if you and we see that in studies too if you look at the studies uh where they use look at the studies uh where they use look at the studies uh where they use the the the elron Hubble or the the the elron Hubble or the the the elron Hubble or the the hubard detoxification modality the the hubard detoxification modality the the hubard detoxification modality on the 9911 uh rescuer workers um and on the 9911 uh rescuer workers um and on the 9911 uh rescuer workers um and you can you can just Google those you can you can just Google those you can you can just Google those studies as well um the when they put
1:00studies as well um the when they put studies as well um the when they put them in the sauna for a couple hours a them in the sauna for a couple hours a them in the sauna for a couple hours a day and this was a wet sauna the toxin day and this was a wet sauna the toxin day and this was a wet sauna the toxin concentration in their um in in the concentration in their um in in the concentration in their um in in the tissue samples taken in the blood tissue samples taken in the blood tissue samples taken in the blood samples taken um and the sweat samples samples taken um and the sweat samples samples taken um and the sweat samples as well over a period of time they as well over a period of time they as well over a period of time they reduce like the toine and the xylene and reduce like the toine and the xylene and reduce like the toine and the xylene and the these terrible petrochemical levels the these terrible petrochemical levels the these terrible petrochemical levels like 90% there are massive like 90% there are massive like 90% there are massive concentrations of toxins that they were concentrations of toxins that they were concentrations of toxins that they were sweating out but it's because were doing sweating out but it's because were doing sweating out but it's because were doing it passively in the sauna uh and that it passively in the sauna uh and that it passively in the sauna uh and that has to do with that parasympathetic has to do with that parasympathetic has to do with that parasympathetic gearing of the body the what rest and gearing of the body the what rest and gearing of the body the what rest and digest literally means that uh it's when digest literally means that uh it's when digest literally means that uh it's when when you have all this energy that's when you have all this energy that's when you have all this energy that's going into the body with the going into the body with the going into the body with the incandescent sauna the all this near incandescent sauna the all this near incandescent sauna the all this near infared light but you're just sitting infared light but you're just sitting infared light but you're just sitting there you're not responding to the there you're not responding to the there you're not responding to the environment and and uh escaping the bear environment and and uh escaping the bear environment and and uh escaping the bear or the environmental stress the body is or the environmental stress the body is or the environmental stress the body is using all this amazing energy from the using all this amazing energy from the using all this amazing energy from the incandescent light to to repair to heal incandescent light to to repair to heal incandescent light to to repair to heal to detox to eliminate uh to do to to to to detox to eliminate uh to do to to to to detox to eliminate uh to do to to to fix itself yeah and so but you can do
1:01fix itself yeah and so but you can do fix itself yeah and so but you can do that with a regular near infrared that's that with a regular near infrared that's that with a regular near infrared that's not yours you're still going to get some not yours you're still going to get some not yours you're still going to get some environmental stress because of the environmental stress because of the environmental stress because of the electric and radio frequency feeli so electric and radio frequency feeli so electric and radio frequency feeli so even though you're not doing anything even though you're not doing anything even though you're not doing anything actively yourself you're still getting actively yourself you're still getting actively yourself you're still getting that stress and activating your that stress and activating your that stress and activating your sympathetic nervous system where you go sympathetic nervous system where you go sympathetic nervous system where you go into your sauna you're like into your sauna you're like into your sauna you're like parasympathetic neutral just activating parasympathetic neutral just activating parasympathetic neutral just activating paretic stress it's like the near paretic stress it's like the near paretic stress it's like the near perfect idea yeah and that that's that's perfect idea yeah and that that's that's perfect idea yeah and that that's that's that's addressing all the issues you that's addressing all the issues you that's addressing all the issues you know we're using an electrical device to know we're using an electrical device to know we're using an electrical device to heat the body first let's get the right heat the body first let's get the right heat the body first let's get the right Spectrum the right technology that's Spectrum the right technology that's Spectrum the right technology that's incandescent but then we really need to incandescent but then we really need to incandescent but then we really need to incorporate EMF electric field and incorporate EMF electric field and incorporate EMF electric field and magnetic field mitigation principles so magnetic field mitigation principles so magnetic field mitigation principles so that we're not bringing in another that we're not bringing in another that we're not bringing in another nervous system stressor and putting us nervous system stressor and putting us nervous system stressor and putting us back into sympathetic dominance um so back into sympathetic dominance um so back into sympathetic dominance um so yeah we've really created something yeah we've really created something yeah we've really created something unique here in addressing all these unique here in addressing all these unique here in addressing all these issues so that you can sit inside and issues so that you can sit inside and issues so that you can sit inside and have have have maximum healing going on um and and we maximum healing going on um and and we maximum healing going on um and and we see that from the light from the Heat see that from the light from the Heat see that from the light from the Heat and it's all you know it's all magnified
1:02and it's all you know it's all magnified and it's all you know it's all magnified doing all the the light and heat and the doing all the the light and heat and the doing all the the light and heat and the structure and water all together without structure and water all together without structure and water all together without the EMF stress and and that's twofold so the EMF stress and and that's twofold so the EMF stress and and that's twofold so with our products you know um we've with our products you know um we've with our products you know um we've ensured the there's no electric field ensured the there's no electric field ensured the there's no electric field and magnetic field stress from our our and magnetic field stress from our our and magnetic field stress from our our product but the special uh kind of product but the special uh kind of product but the special uh kind of upgraded version that that you have um upgraded version that that you have um upgraded version that that you have um actually protects the user from external actually protects the user from external actually protects the user from external electromagnetic stress so the external electromagnetic stress so the external electromagnetic stress so the external RF and the external dur electricity that RF and the external dur electricity that RF and the external dur electricity that that sneak inside and um and and and that sneak inside and um and and and that sneak inside and um and and and stress us out in all saunas and all stress us out in all saunas and all stress us out in all saunas and all areas on Earth that doesn't exist in in areas on Earth that doesn't exist in in areas on Earth that doesn't exist in in what I've created um through you know a what I've created um through you know a what I've created um through you know a lot of a lot of testing a lot of a lot lot of a lot of testing a lot of a lot lot of a lot of testing a lot of a lot of hard work here um from the whole team of hard work here um from the whole team of hard work here um from the whole team actually and um that's really unique is actually and um that's really unique is actually and um that's really unique is to do all of this in this space that's to do all of this in this space that's to do all of this in this space that's basically pre- electricity pre cell basically pre- electricity pre cell basically pre- electricity pre cell phone you're a real major innovator phone you're a real major innovator phone you're a real major innovator because no one's done this prior to you because no one's done this prior to you because no one's done this prior to you so congratul rations on that so congratul rations on that so congratul rations on that accomplishment and achievement but can I accomplishment and achievement but can I accomplishment and achievement but can I wondered if you could comment because wondered if you could comment because wondered if you could comment because I'm sure you know the studies I believe
1:03I'm sure you know the studies I believe I'm sure you know the studies I believe they're out of Finland and these were they're out of Finland and these were they're out of Finland and these were done recently where they looked at done recently where they looked at done recently where they looked at people who Saed regularly like from Once people who Saed regularly like from Once people who Saed regularly like from Once A once a week to every day and they they A once a week to every day and they they A once a week to every day and they they observed the mortality rates and I observed the mortality rates and I observed the mortality rates and I believe from cancer and heart disease believe from cancer and heart disease believe from cancer and heart disease and what do you know which ones I'm and what do you know which ones I'm and what do you know which ones I'm referring to oh yeah there's there's so referring to oh yeah there's there's so referring to oh yeah there's there's so many of them why don't you summarize many of them why don't you summarize many of them why don't you summarize them for us because I'm sure you're more them for us because I'm sure you're more them for us because I'm sure you're more familiar with the details than I am yeah familiar with the details than I am yeah familiar with the details than I am yeah of course they do these studies in fin of course they do these studies in fin of course they do these studies in fin usually because the entire population usually because the entire population usually because the entire population does sauna and has a sauna at home does sauna and has a sauna at home does sauna and has a sauna at home that's a clue which hello you know that's a clue which hello you know that's a clue which hello you know that's big part of keeping them happy that's big part of keeping them happy that's big part of keeping them happy and healthy uh but we see across the and healthy uh but we see across the and healthy uh but we see across the board um in massive decades long uh many board um in massive decades long uh many board um in massive decades long uh many uh you know many person studies very uh you know many person studies very uh you know many person studies very impressive studies we see uh a reduction impressive studies we see uh a reduction impressive studies we see uh a reduction in all cause mortality reduction in risk in all cause mortality reduction in risk in all cause mortality reduction in risk of Alzheimer's and risk of stroke and of Alzheimer's and risk of stroke and of Alzheimer's and risk of stroke and risk of heart attack increased longevity risk of heart attack increased longevity risk of heart attack increased longevity um um um um you know reduction of like neuropathy um you know reduction of like neuropathy um you know reduction of like neuropathy and and uh so many so many things people
1:04and and uh so many so many things people and and uh so many so many things people are living longer and they're more are living longer and they're more are living longer and they're more healthy by using saunas and healthy by using saunas and healthy by using saunas and interestingly it's not just the duration interestingly it's not just the duration interestingly it's not just the duration of the sauna of the sauna of the sauna session it's the frequency per week so session it's the frequency per week so session it's the frequency per week so folks that are using the saunas more per folks that are using the saunas more per folks that are using the saunas more per week and longer sessions and most of week and longer sessions and most of week and longer sessions and most of these studies are with wet saas with the these studies are with wet saas with the these studies are with wet saas with the finished style sauna uh we see uh that finished style sauna uh we see uh that finished style sauna uh we see uh that much greater results so um the more is much greater results so um the more is much greater results so um the more is better in this case in terms of better in this case in terms of better in this case in terms of frequency the if we can use it five or frequency the if we can use it five or frequency the if we can use it five or six days a week even better than one or six days a week even better than one or six days a week even better than one or two days a week but even two days a week two days a week but even two days a week two days a week but even two days a week uh or is a magnitude better than not uh or is a magnitude better than not uh or is a magnitude better than not using a sauna at all and that's because using a sauna at all and that's because using a sauna at all and that's because we've just gotten so far away from this we've just gotten so far away from this we've just gotten so far away from this ancestral context that the you know the ancestral context that the you know the ancestral context that the you know the Finish population that understand so Finish population that understand so Finish population that understand so well people who do sauna understand so well people who do sauna understand so well people who do sauna understand so well the stuff it hits all the Avenues well the stuff it hits all the Avenues well the stuff it hits all the Avenues it's it's an all it's healing all it's it's an all it's healing all it's it's an all it's healing all everything in all ways and it's it's not everything in all ways and it's it's not everything in all ways and it's it's not magnitude of the reduction was at the magnitude of the reduction was at the magnitude of the reduction was at the more frequent us was like greater than more frequent us was like greater than more frequent us was like greater than 50% reduction in heart disease it was
1:0550% reduction in heart disease it was 50% reduction in heart disease it was just crazy good it's like almost as good just crazy good it's like almost as good just crazy good it's like almost as good as Vitamin as Vitamin as Vitamin D yeah it's it's really uh stunning um D yeah it's it's really uh stunning um D yeah it's it's really uh stunning um how it's how it's not well known but but how it's how it's not well known but but how it's how it's not well known but but in terms of one thing that you can do in terms of one thing that you can do in terms of one thing that you can do for for 20 minutes a day with all this for for 20 minutes a day with all this for for 20 minutes a day with all this Tech GA all this health gadgetry and all Tech GA all this health gadgetry and all Tech GA all this health gadgetry and all these things you could do and I and this these things you could do and I and this these things you could do and I and this I have this solution I have that I have this solution I have that I have this solution I have that solution one thing to sit there and solution one thing to sit there and solution one thing to sit there and sweat passively under full spectrum sweat passively under full spectrum sweat passively under full spectrum light protected from electromagnetic light protected from electromagnetic light protected from electromagnetic stress uh it's probably the most stress uh it's probably the most stress uh it's probably the most impactful thing you could ever do um as impactful thing you could ever do um as impactful thing you could ever do um as a as a kind of a healing activity you do a as a kind of a healing activity you do a as a kind of a healing activity you do for for everything for all issues I for for everything for all issues I for for everything for all issues I couldn't agree more and without a doubt couldn't agree more and without a doubt couldn't agree more and without a doubt it is my favorite biohacking device and it is my favorite biohacking device and it is my favorite biohacking device and literally the thing I miss the most when literally the thing I miss the most when literally the thing I miss the most when I travel uh I don't get too paranoid I travel uh I don't get too paranoid I travel uh I don't get too paranoid about it because I know I'm going to get about it because I know I'm going to get about it because I know I'm going to get it way go back home so I would say 95% it way go back home so I would say 95% it way go back home so I would say 95% of the time I'm doing the near it's on of the time I'm doing the near it's on of the time I'm doing the near it's on every day um as am I yeah yeah but when
1:06every day um as am I yeah yeah but when every day um as am I yeah yeah but when you travel it's I mean you your device you travel it's I mean you your device you travel it's I mean you your device could be packed but it's it's not the could be packed but it's it's not the could be packed but it's it's not the easiest thing to do and it's probably easiest thing to do and it's probably easiest thing to do and it's probably you know the best benefit challenge I you know the best benefit challenge I you know the best benefit challenge I mean you can pack it and travel with it mean you can pack it and travel with it mean you can pack it and travel with it but it's just sort of yeah know it's but it's just sort of yeah know it's but it's just sort of yeah know it's it's it's very portable but yeah the it's it's very portable but yeah the it's it's very portable but yeah the thing is if you have a core discipline thing is if you have a core discipline thing is if you have a core discipline and you're using that you know using the and you're using that you know using the and you're using that you know using the incandescent on at home you know when incandescent on at home you know when incandescent on at home you know when you're at home every day you can do what you're at home every day you can do what you're at home every day you can do what you want you can travel you can Goof Off you want you can travel you can Goof Off you want you can travel you can Goof Off you can you know cheat uh because you you can you know cheat uh because you you can you know cheat uh because you have that core discipline where you're have that core discipline where you're have that core discipline where you're restoring and repairing the DNA and restoring and repairing the DNA and restoring and repairing the DNA and doing all this stuff every day and doing all this stuff every day and doing all this stuff every day and getting the toxins out getting all this getting the toxins out getting all this getting the toxins out getting all this junk that we're exposed to out that's junk that we're exposed to out that's junk that we're exposed to out that's what it's all about we can't get what it's all about we can't get what it's all about we can't get dogmatic here we just need to take daily dogmatic here we just need to take daily dogmatic here we just need to take daily small steps toward toward toward Better small steps toward toward toward Better small steps toward toward toward Better Health and that's it's a simple thing to Health and that's it's a simple thing to Health and that's it's a simple thing to do actually yeah so uh now that you've do actually yeah so uh now that you've do actually yeah so uh now that you've heard Brian talk for over an hour I'm heard Brian talk for over an hour I'm heard Brian talk for over an hour I'm sure you're just as impressed with I was sure you're just as impressed with I was sure you're just as impressed with I was first talked him at bulletproof and said first talked him at bulletproof and said first talked him at bulletproof and said gosh I I just love dialoguing with gosh I I just love dialoguing with gosh I I just love dialoguing with someone who understands this at a very
1:07someone who understands this at a very someone who understands this at a very deep level and really studied it very deep level and really studied it very deep level and really studied it very carefully and further was put together carefully and further was put together carefully and further was put together really one of the most Innovative really one of the most Innovative really one of the most Innovative devices out there is with the spect TOA devices out there is with the spect TOA devices out there is with the spect TOA therapy and I I'm a firm believer as are therapy and I I'm a firm believer as are therapy and I I'm a firm believer as are many other clinicians that if you want a many other clinicians that if you want a many other clinicians that if you want a detox you really need some type of sauna detox you really need some type of sauna detox you really need some type of sauna and you know we've Brian's gone over and you know we've Brian's gone over and you know we've Brian's gone over very eloquently the difference between very eloquently the difference between very eloquently the difference between the far and the near infared ones and I the far and the near infared ones and I the far and the near infared ones and I I I couldn't endorse near infed even if I I couldn't endorse near infed even if I I couldn't endorse near infed even if you're making it yourself if you have you're making it yourself if you have you're making it yourself if you have limited income that's going to still limited income that's going to still limited income that's going to still give you some benefits there's some give you some benefits there's some give you some benefits there's some downsides yes you got to be really downsides yes you got to be really downsides yes you got to be really careful because those bulbs are hot they careful because those bulbs are hot they careful because those bulbs are hot they can earn you big time there gonna be can earn you big time there gonna be can earn you big time there gonna be electric Fields but you can still do it electric Fields but you can still do it electric Fields but you can still do it and you know then bride offers a whole and you know then bride offers a whole and you know then bride offers a whole variety of different uh strategies that variety of different uh strategies that variety of different uh strategies that you can Implement from a range of a few you can Implement from a range of a few you can Implement from a range of a few thousand to you know less than 10,000 thousand to you know less than 10,000 thousand to you know less than 10,000 but it still get gets up there so but it still get gets up there so but it still get gets up there so there's there's resources out there that there's there's resources out there that there's there's resources out there that you can Avail yourself to that would you can Avail yourself to that would you can Avail yourself to that would really make a big difference so any really make a big difference so any really make a big difference so any closing words Brian uh just that um
1:08uh just that um people people always want to know like people people always want to know like people people always want to know like how's this going to make me feel better how's this going to make me feel better how's this going to make me feel better how am I going to look and feel better how am I going to look and feel better how am I going to look and feel better from this all I care about are my from this all I care about are my from this all I care about are my problems I've talked to and and and I'm problems I've talked to and and and I'm problems I've talked to and and and I'm sure you have as well in the course of sure you have as well in the course of sure you have as well in the course of your health career I am no provider I'm your health career I am no provider I'm your health career I am no provider I'm no healthcare provider but I have talked no healthcare provider but I have talked no healthcare provider but I have talked to about 20 or 30, people on the phone to about 20 or 30, people on the phone to about 20 or 30, people on the phone literally uh um in the course of De you literally uh um in the course of De you literally uh um in the course of De you know dealing with incandescent son know dealing with incandescent son know dealing with incandescent son therapy and doing what I do therapy and doing what I do therapy and doing what I do and um what I found is that uh this and um what I found is that uh this and um what I found is that uh this really benefits everybody everybody has really benefits everybody everybody has really benefits everybody everybody has mitochondria everybody's has terrible mitochondria everybody's has terrible mitochondria everybody's has terrible toxic stress everybody is getting hit toxic stress everybody is getting hit toxic stress everybody is getting hit with EMF stress every day everybody is with EMF stress every day everybody is with EMF stress every day everybody is designed to heal in the same way no designed to heal in the same way no designed to heal in the same way no matter how we look we're all different matter how we look we're all different matter how we look we're all different at the cell level we're all the same at the cell level we're all the same at the cell level we're all the same it's the great equalizer and this is it's the great equalizer and this is it's the great equalizer and this is just I'm just very passionate in this just I'm just very passionate in this just I'm just very passionate in this being the most impactful thing you could being the most impactful thing you could being the most impactful thing you could possibly do uh if if you can address possibly do uh if if you can address possibly do uh if if you can address some lifestyle choices and good diet some lifestyle choices and good diet some lifestyle choices and good diet choices you know um with a healing
1:09choices you know um with a healing choices you know um with a healing practice like this that returns you to practice like this that returns you to practice like this that returns you to what you did ancestrally uh you can uh what you did ancestrally uh you can uh what you did ancestrally uh you can uh improve your lot in life you can get out improve your lot in life you can get out improve your lot in life you can get out of where you are you can if you have if of where you are you can if you have if of where you are you can if you have if you can just have a little discipline you can just have a little discipline you can just have a little discipline and just use the darn thing um you will and just use the darn thing um you will and just use the darn thing um you will see impact positive impact it's just uh see impact positive impact it's just uh see impact positive impact it's just uh guaranteed I mean it just it stuff works guaranteed I mean it just it stuff works guaranteed I mean it just it stuff works for everybody yeah two points I for everybody yeah two points I for everybody yeah two points I neglected to mention is that you use neglected to mention is that you use neglected to mention is that you use four bulbs uh and each bulb is 2 so four bulbs uh and each bulb is 2 so four bulbs uh and each bulb is 2 so that's a kilowatt of power using so it's that's a kilowatt of power using so it's that's a kilowatt of power using so it's going to definitely crank up your going to definitely crank up your going to definitely crank up your electric bill a little but it's only for electric bill a little but it's only for electric bill a little but it's only for 20 30 minutes and the other point is 20 30 minutes and the other point is 20 30 minutes and the other point is that unlike many uh biohacking devices that unlike many uh biohacking devices that unlike many uh biohacking devices which are customized or really you can which are customized or really you can which are customized or really you can only use yourself your whole family can only use yourself your whole family can only use yourself your whole family can use it your friends can use it although use it your friends can use it although use it your friends can use it although before we leave I I I've neglected to before we leave I I I've neglected to before we leave I I I've neglected to mention one of the issues which is an is mention one of the issues which is an is mention one of the issues which is an is important caution that I think people important caution that I think people important caution that I think people need to know about and I'm pretty sure need to know about and I'm pretty sure need to know about and I'm pretty sure you have a good answer which is the fact you have a good answer which is the fact you have a good answer which is the fact that you are detoxing you're that you are detoxing you're that you are detoxing you're volatilizing these petrochemicals and in volatilizing these petrochemicals and in volatilizing these petrochemicals and in some cases heavy metals into the
1:10some cases heavy metals into the some cases heavy metals into the environment the space around there so environment the space around there so environment the space around there so could you comment on how to uh could you comment on how to uh could you comment on how to uh maintenance of the sauna so that you're maintenance of the sauna so that you're maintenance of the sauna so that you're not quiring toxins at the person before not quiring toxins at the person before not quiring toxins at the person before you liberated once where they were in you liberated once where they were in you liberated once where they were in the the the sauna yeah uh I sauna yeah uh I sauna yeah uh I mean the primary uh toxic load that is mean the primary uh toxic load that is mean the primary uh toxic load that is excreted by your body in in passive Sono excreted by your body in in passive Sono excreted by your body in in passive Sono therapy is through the sweat and so it's therapy is through the sweat and so it's therapy is through the sweat and so it's not really like explosively uh ejecting not really like explosively uh ejecting not really like explosively uh ejecting you know projecting out into the air you know projecting out into the air you know projecting out into the air it's mostly you're sweating it so the it's mostly you're sweating it so the it's mostly you're sweating it so the toxins in your sweat so oh for your for toxins in your sweat so oh for your for toxins in your sweat so oh for your for your own sake stud I mean objectively your own sake stud I mean objectively your own sake stud I mean objectively versus volatilizing Through Your Skin versus volatilizing Through Your Skin versus volatilizing Through Your Skin versus sweating is it like 99% of it's versus sweating is it like 99% of it's versus sweating is it like 99% of it's through the sweat um well I I don't I through the sweat um well I I don't I through the sweat um well I I don't I don't I don't know if I could quantify don't I don't know if I could quantify don't I don't know if I could quantify that here on the spot if you put me on that here on the spot if you put me on that here on the spot if you put me on the spot but I know that for example the spot but I know that for example the spot but I know that for example there's like a 2016 or 15 bus study there's like a 2016 or 15 bus study there's like a 2016 or 15 bus study where they found out for the first time where they found out for the first time where they found out for the first time ever uh blood urine stool study that ever uh blood urine stool study that ever uh blood urine stool study that um they discovered for the first time um they discovered for the first time um they discovered for the first time ever that You Can't Sweat Out Mercury ever that You Can't Sweat Out Mercury ever that You Can't Sweat Out Mercury and that was something that was
1:11and that was something that was and that was something that was previously considered to be only previously considered to be only previously considered to be only excreted via the stool so the more we excreted via the stool so the more we excreted via the stool so the more we look into sweating and passive sweating look into sweating and passive sweating look into sweating and passive sweating we see that the body can almost get rid we see that the body can almost get rid we see that the body can almost get rid of everything through the sweat and the of everything through the sweat and the of everything through the sweat and the primary uh excretion is through the primary uh excretion is through the primary uh excretion is through the sweat although definitely the some is sweat although definitely the some is sweat although definitely the some is through the the the organs elimination through the the the organs elimination through the the the organs elimination as well the other organs but the the as well the other organs but the the as well the other organs but the the skin the biggest most powerful organ in skin the biggest most powerful organ in skin the biggest most powerful organ in your body is the major detoxifier so your body is the major detoxifier so your body is the major detoxifier so it's all coming through the sweat and it's all coming through the sweat and it's all coming through the sweat and for your own sake as well as the sake of for your own sake as well as the sake of for your own sake as well as the sake of anyone else who's using the same anyone else who's using the same anyone else who's using the same incandescent sa at home you want to incandescent sa at home you want to incandescent sa at home you want to collect the sweat as all you want to use collect the sweat as all you want to use collect the sweat as all you want to use a vigorous amount of towels towel on the a vigorous amount of towels towel on the a vigorous amount of towels towel on the stool a couple towels in the store on stool a couple towels in the store on stool a couple towels in the store on the floor um to collect all the sweat so the floor um to collect all the sweat so the floor um to collect all the sweat so it doesn't reach the product and you it doesn't reach the product and you it doesn't reach the product and you just take the towels out and you have a just take the towels out and you have a just take the towels out and you have a couple sets of towels and you you use couple sets of towels and you you use couple sets of towels and you you use those and then uh and then you wash them those and then uh and then you wash them those and then uh and then you wash them because the the top the sauna sweat is because the the top the sauna sweat is because the the top the sauna sweat is very costic it's very toxin Laden it very costic it's very toxin Laden it very costic it's very toxin Laden it it's actually costic uh and uh the same it's actually costic uh and uh the same it's actually costic uh and uh the same thing goes with your body so typically thing goes with your body so typically thing goes with your body so typically after a sauna session people get in the
1:12after a sauna session people get in the after a sauna session people get in the shower and they rinse off with a bristle shower and they rinse off with a bristle shower and they rinse off with a bristle brush and exfoliate all the skin the the brush and exfoliate all the skin the the brush and exfoliate all the skin the the toxins can cling to the dead skin cells toxins can cling to the dead skin cells toxins can cling to the dead skin cells that Dr Lawrence Wilson talks about this that Dr Lawrence Wilson talks about this that Dr Lawrence Wilson talks about this a little bit so we want to get the dead a little bit so we want to get the dead a little bit so we want to get the dead skin cells off the body plus it feels skin cells off the body plus it feels skin cells off the body plus it feels amazing on the skin and it exfoliates amazing on the skin and it exfoliates amazing on the skin and it exfoliates and you'll find your you you'll you do and you'll find your you you'll you do and you'll find your you you'll you do this a few times do this after your this a few times do this after your this a few times do this after your sauna a few incandescent sauna sessions sauna a few incandescent sauna sessions sauna a few incandescent sauna sessions and your skin will just feel great and your skin will just feel great and your skin will just feel great they'll really start to glow and um so they'll really start to glow and um so they'll really start to glow and um so that's all you need to do is is do a that's all you need to do is is do a that's all you need to do is is do a rinse off with the scrubbing with a rinse off with the scrubbing with a rinse off with the scrubbing with a bristle brush after the session to get bristle brush after the session to get bristle brush after the session to get it off your skin and then use towels in it off your skin and then use towels in it off your skin and then use towels in the product to to keep the sweat you the product to to keep the sweat you the product to to keep the sweat you know you know from going everywhere know you know from going everywhere know you know from going everywhere basically um and otherwise you know mo basically um and otherwise you know mo basically um and otherwise you know mo most most folks uh using my saunas are most most folks uh using my saunas are most most folks uh using my saunas are definitely the entire family is using it definitely the entire family is using it definitely the entire family is using it and and why not everybody needs it our and and why not everybody needs it our and and why not everybody needs it our children need it our grandparents need children need it our grandparents need children need it our grandparents need it we all need it um every day really it we all need it um every day really it we all need it um every day really yeah so that's a good just ification you yeah so that's a good just ification you yeah so that's a good just ification you know for getting into one of these is know for getting into one of these is know for getting into one of these is that your whole family's going to that your whole family's going to that your whole family's going to benefit you get a large family the cost
1:13benefit you get a large family the cost benefit you get a large family the cost goes down per person big time uh and goes down per person big time uh and goes down per person big time uh and just uh one recommendation to even just uh one recommendation to even just uh one recommendation to even further improve the benefits from the further improve the benefits from the further improve the benefits from the sauna mitochondrially metabolically is sauna mitochondrially metabolically is sauna mitochondrially metabolically is if you use cold water therapy afterwards if you use cold water therapy afterwards if you use cold water therapy afterwards because that difference if you're going because that difference if you're going because that difference if you're going because you can get pretty high 130 40 because you can get pretty high 130 40 because you can get pretty high 130 40 or 50 what's the temperature in your or 50 what's the temperature in your or 50 what's the temperature in your son it's your body that heats up since son it's your body that heats up since son it's your body that heats up since we're using radiant heat the the we're using radiant heat the the we're using radiant heat the the temperature in an incandescent Ona never temperature in an incandescent Ona never temperature in an incandescent Ona never gets above gets above gets above 120 it's 100 120 maybe 125 Max but uh 120 it's 100 120 maybe 125 Max but uh 120 it's 100 120 maybe 125 Max but uh you know it doesn't get up to 150 like a you know it doesn't get up to 150 like a you know it doesn't get up to 150 like a farm fored sa like a wet sauna it's much farm fored sa like a wet sauna it's much farm fored sa like a wet sauna it's much more tolerable again for that reason and more tolerable again for that reason and more tolerable again for that reason and you know with our our sauna design for you know with our our sauna design for you know with our our sauna design for example you can turn down uh some of the example you can turn down uh some of the example you can turn down uh some of the lamps and you can leave the curtain open lamps and you can leave the curtain open lamps and you can leave the curtain open so uh some people who are very weak and so uh some people who are very weak and so uh some people who are very weak and have heat sensitivity issues dealing have heat sensitivity issues dealing have heat sensitivity issues dealing with MS and things like that they start with MS and things like that they start with MS and things like that they start out with two lamps they may only use it out with two lamps they may only use it out with two lamps they may only use it for five minutes and not initially for five minutes and not initially for five minutes and not initially provoke a profuse sweat as they slowly
1:14provoke a profuse sweat as they slowly provoke a profuse sweat as they slowly reactivate their body and ease into this reactivate their body and ease into this reactivate their body and ease into this concept you gotta get them out of their concept you gotta get them out of their concept you gotta get them out of their homeostasis they're stuck in they're homeostasis they're stuck in they're homeostasis they're stuck in they're stuck in this toxic state but uh it stuck in this toxic state but uh it stuck in this toxic state but uh it seems to work for everybody slowly but seems to work for everybody slowly but seems to work for everybody slowly but surely and and yeah and even folks who surely and and yeah and even folks who surely and and yeah and even folks who are really have great illness and are are really have great illness and are are really have great illness and are very weak they can use this in a very weak they can use this in a very weak they can use this in a supervis fashion yeah but but doing a supervis fashion yeah but but doing a supervis fashion yeah but but doing a cold shower after would be better for cold shower after would be better for cold shower after would be better for you if you can't tolerate it you know be you if you can't tolerate it you know be you if you can't tolerate it you know be able to build up to it but that contrast able to build up to it but that contrast able to build up to it but that contrast is dramatically important to improve is dramatically important to improve is dramatically important to improve mitochondrial function and one last mitochondrial function and one last mitochondrial function and one last point on neglected Dimension too we both point on neglected Dimension too we both point on neglected Dimension too we both did is that the light exposure to the did is that the light exposure to the did is that the light exposure to the light source is imperative so that light source is imperative so that light source is imperative so that unlike a far for on where you just sit unlike a far for on where you just sit unlike a far for on where you just sit in the darn thing and your whole body's in the darn thing and your whole body's in the darn thing and your whole body's going to heat up not so with this you've going to heat up not so with this you've going to heat up not so with this you've got to directionally change every few got to directionally change every few got to directionally change every few minutes or so so you're going to be minutes or so so you're going to be minutes or so so you're going to be rotating a lot there's a little movement rotating a lot there's a little movement rotating a lot there's a little movement in there to expose different parts of in there to expose different parts of in there to expose different parts of your body yeah that's uh the clothing your body yeah that's uh the clothing your body yeah that's uh the clothing other than very find white cotton other than very find white cotton other than very find white cotton clothing blocks light it blocks the near clothing blocks light it blocks the near clothing blocks light it blocks the near front of light so we want to be naked uh
1:15front of light so we want to be naked uh front of light so we want to be naked uh and then also we talked about and then also we talked about and then also we talked about photobiomodulation PBM in the beginning photobiomodulation PBM in the beginning photobiomodulation PBM in the beginning uh the even the deepest penetrating near uh the even the deepest penetrating near uh the even the deepest penetrating near fored in one NASA study was shown to fored in one NASA study was shown to fored in one NASA study was shown to penetrate like uh almost nine inches but penetrate like uh almost nine inches but penetrate like uh almost nine inches but on average it's not penetrating that on average it's not penetrating that on average it's not penetrating that deep it's it's probably four or five deep it's it's probably four or five deep it's it's probably four or five inches on average so pretty deep four inches on average so pretty deep four inches on average so pretty deep four five it's still very deep it's still five it's still very deep it's still five it's still very deep it's still very effective but as we if we rotate in very effective but as we if we rotate in very effective but as we if we rotate in the sa every you know five minutes or the sa every you know five minutes or the sa every you know five minutes or something a quarter turn or so that's something a quarter turn or so that's something a quarter turn or so that's the Dr Lawrence Wilson recommended you the Dr Lawrence Wilson recommended you the Dr Lawrence Wilson recommended you know that's the original protocol uh we know that's the original protocol uh we know that's the original protocol uh we we maximize our mitochondrial we maximize our mitochondrial we maximize our mitochondrial stimulation we also get an interesting stimulation we also get an interesting stimulation we also get an interesting heating effect going on you heat one heating effect going on you heat one heating effect going on you heat one side of the body and so blood flows to side of the body and so blood flows to side of the body and so blood flows to the front to the chest and then we the front to the chest and then we the front to the chest and then we rotate a quarter turn and now the blood rotate a quarter turn and now the blood rotate a quarter turn and now the blood is pooling from the front over to the is pooling from the front over to the is pooling from the front over to the side and we get a better sloshing of the side and we get a better sloshing of the side and we get a better sloshing of the blood around in the Torso and more even blood around in the Torso and more even blood around in the Torso and more even more efficient heating but through more efficient heating but through more efficient heating but through rotation and really effective hypmic rotation and really effective hypmic rotation and really effective hypmic therapy but without doing too much on therapy but without doing too much on therapy but without doing too much on any one tissue point so just another way any one tissue point so just another way any one tissue point so just another way that this incandescent son therapy is that this incandescent son therapy is that this incandescent son therapy is just a safer more tolerable approach
1:16just a safer more tolerable approach just a safer more tolerable approach yeah so I can't thank you enough for yeah so I can't thank you enough for yeah so I can't thank you enough for putting this together what an amazing putting this together what an amazing putting this together what an amazing resource what an innovator and really uh resource what an innovator and really uh resource what an innovator and really uh inspirational for what you're done I inspirational for what you're done I inspirational for what you're done I mean if if anyone watching this you're mean if if anyone watching this you're mean if if anyone watching this you're not gonna I mean you could try to make not gonna I mean you could try to make not gonna I mean you could try to make make a SAA like this but the the key make a SAA like this but the the key make a SAA like this but the the key example that Brian represents in example that Brian represents in example that Brian represents in addition to providing such an excellent addition to providing such an excellent addition to providing such an excellent resource is the is is an inspiration resource is the is is an inspiration resource is the is is an inspiration it's whatever your passion is just go it's whatever your passion is just go it's whatever your passion is just go for it and you can create the best for it and you can create the best for it and you can create the best product in the world or the best book in product in the world or the best book in product in the world or the best book in the world on your passion so I mean it's the world on your passion so I mean it's the world on your passion so I mean it's just amazing what you can do if you're just amazing what you can do if you're just amazing what you can do if you're really inspired and Brian's a good really inspired and Brian's a good really inspired and Brian's a good example so thank you for what you put example so thank you for what you put example so thank you for what you put together and your inspiration as a human together and your inspiration as a human together and your inspiration as a human being thank you for having me Dr Mara I being thank you for having me Dr Mara I being thank you for having me Dr Mara I really appreciate it okay