Cold Plunge Therapy The Surprising Mental Physical Benefits
00:00Welcome to Journey On. Today we have a Welcome to Journey On. Today we have a special guest who is the founder of Cold special guest who is the founder of Cold special guest who is the founder of Cold Confidence, whose home base is the Confidence, whose home base is the Confidence, whose home base is the Pacific Northwest, where she guides Pacific Northwest, where she guides Pacific Northwest, where she guides others in building resilience and inner others in building resilience and inner others in building resilience and inner strength through 33° cold water strength through 33° cold water strength through 33° cold water exposure. She's the co-founder of Puget exposure. She's the co-founder of Puget exposure. She's the co-founder of Puget Sound Plungers, where she gathers and Sound Plungers, where she gathers and Sound Plungers, where she gathers and supports others in the wild waters of supports others in the wild waters of supports others in the wild waters of Puent Sound, Washington, because it's Puent Sound, Washington, because it's Puent Sound, Washington, because it's much easier to do it together. much easier to do it together. much easier to do it together. She's involved with TAPS, a nonprofit She's involved with TAPS, a nonprofit She's involved with TAPS, a nonprofit organization that helps provide support organization that helps provide support organization that helps provide support and care for families and friends of and care for families and friends of and care for families and friends of fallen heroes. She's building a fallen heroes. She's building a fallen heroes. She's building a community to inspire connection and community to inspire connection and community to inspire connection and creativity through writing called creativity through writing called creativity through writing called Journal Your Journey. Journal Your Journey. Journal Your Journey. She was the co-found co-leader in Gaia She was the co-found co-leader in Gaia She was the co-found co-leader in Gaia Goddess Unleashed Retreat and she's Goddess Unleashed Retreat and she's Goddess Unleashed Retreat and she's empowered 109 women to cold plunge nude empowered 109 women to cold plunge nude empowered 109 women to cold plunge nude in the Salish Sea. So please help me in in the Salish Sea. So please help me in in the Salish Sea. So please help me in welcoming the woman whose confidence welcoming the woman whose confidence welcoming the woman whose confidence flowed from cold water exposure and now flowed from cold water exposure and now flowed from cold water exposure and now she pours onto others because you can. she pours onto others because you can. she pours onto others because you can. Ranatada rain
01:00Ranatada rain Ranatada rain >> but do you know there's ice in the >> but do you know there's ice in the >> but do you know there's ice in the water? It's water? It's water? It's >> my machine makes ice. So there's always >> my machine makes ice. So there's always >> my machine makes ice. So there's always ice in the water. So it's not 32 cuz ice in the water. So it's not 32 cuz ice in the water. So it's not 32 cuz it's not solid it's not solid it's not solid >> but it's also not melting. It's always >> but it's also not melting. It's always >> but it's also not melting. It's always making ice. So my my temperature is making ice. So my my temperature is making ice. So my my temperature is about 33 about 33 about 33 >> all the time. Yeah. >> all the time. Yeah. >> all the time. Yeah. >> That's pretty awesome. And then when you >> That's pretty awesome. And then when you >> That's pretty awesome. And then when you guys go do the is it a sea that you guys guys go do the is it a sea that you guys guys go do the is it a sea that you guys go into for go into for go into for >> Yes. >> Yes. >> Yes. >> Sounds or is it like a ocean? Okay. >> Sounds or is it like a ocean? Okay. >> Sounds or is it like a ocean? Okay. >> Less salt in the ocean. Yeah. Less salt >> Less salt in the ocean. Yeah. Less salt >> Less salt in the ocean. Yeah. Less salt in the ocean. We're inland from the in the ocean. We're inland from the in the ocean. We're inland from the ocean. So ocean. So ocean. So >> yeah, >> yeah, >> yeah, >> less salt and less waves. >> less salt and less waves. >> less salt and less waves. >> Oh, that's nice. Do you guys check the >> Oh, that's nice. Do you guys check the >> Oh, that's nice. Do you guys check the temperature before or temperature before or temperature before or >> No, people I did in the beginning >> No, people I did in the beginning >> No, people I did in the beginning because everything was new, but it because everything was new, but it because everything was new, but it really doesn't matter the temperature or really doesn't matter the temperature or really doesn't matter the temperature or the tides for that matter were going. So the tides for that matter were going. So the tides for that matter were going. So >> yeah, >> yeah, >> uh people used to ask me all the time >> uh people used to ask me all the time >> uh people used to ask me all the time and now I able to just look on Google, and now I able to just look on Google, and now I able to just look on Google, what's the temperature today? what's the temperature today? what's the temperature today? >> Yeah, >> Yeah, >> Yeah, >> most of the um thermometers you can buy, >> most of the um thermometers you can buy, >> most of the um thermometers you can buy, they're really cute, like a duck or a they're really cute, like a duck or a they're really cute, like a duck or a whale or whale or whale or >> they're not accurate.
02:00>> they're not accurate. >> they're not accurate. >> The only really accurate >> The only really accurate >> The only really accurate >> uh thermometers are aquarium >> uh thermometers are aquarium >> uh thermometers are aquarium thermometers, which are glass, and we thermometers, which are glass, and we thermometers, which are glass, and we broke more than we care to admit. So broke more than we care to admit. So broke more than we care to admit. So >> we just It's cold generally. >> we just It's cold generally. >> we just It's cold generally. >> Yeah. the temp the tides and water >> Yeah. the temp the tides and water >> Yeah. the temp the tides and water moving is colder. So it makes the water moving is colder. So it makes the water moving is colder. So it makes the water colder and you can't even measure that. colder and you can't even measure that. colder and you can't even measure that. >> Oh. >> Oh. >> Oh. >> Oh, gotcha. >> Oh, gotcha. >> Oh, gotcha. >> Yeah. So moving water is colder if that >> Yeah. So moving water is colder if that >> Yeah. So moving water is colder if that makes any sense. makes any sense. makes any sense. >> Wow. That's interesting. You would think >> Wow. That's interesting. You would think >> Wow. That's interesting. You would think like the move like the move like the move >> 35 degrees in a river. It's actually >> 35 degrees in a river. It's actually >> 35 degrees in a river. It's actually colder than that, but you can't measure colder than that, but you can't measure colder than that, but you can't measure that. that. that. >> Wow. Wow. >> Wow. Wow. >> Wow. Wow. >> Running water is colder is >> Running water is colder is >> Running water is colder is >> That's interesting. I never knew that. >> That's interesting. I never knew that. >> That's interesting. I never knew that. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. >> So on days when the tide is really >> So on days when the tide is really >> So on days when the tide is really strong and we can feel it, it's like strong and we can feel it, it's like strong and we can feel it, it's like it's extra cold. it's extra cold. it's extra cold. >> And there's not we don't we're like make >> And there's not we don't we're like make >> And there's not we don't we're like make up our own language for that because up our own language for that because up our own language for that because >> we're going on our fourth year of >> we're going on our fourth year of >> we're going on our fourth year of saying, "Oh, it's cold today. [laughter] So cold." Yeah, it's cold.
03:00So cold." Yeah, it's cold. >> Oh, wow. Is there any ever any time when >> Oh, wow. Is there any ever any time when >> Oh, wow. Is there any ever any time when you like get in the water and you just you like get in the water and you just you like get in the water and you just want to get out immediately or you just want to get out immediately or you just want to get out immediately or you just kind of more accustomed because you've kind of more accustomed because you've kind of more accustomed because you've been doing it for so long? been doing it for so long? been doing it for so long? A lot of people have that happen. In A lot of people have that happen. In A lot of people have that happen. In fact, the reason I some people say, "Why fact, the reason I some people say, "Why fact, the reason I some people say, "Why do you have to guide people?" Like that do you have to guide people?" Like that do you have to guide people?" Like that seems silly. But a lot of people will seems silly. But a lot of people will seems silly. But a lot of people will stand when I started I I went with one stand when I started I I went with one stand when I started I I went with one person. I was by myself. person. I was by myself. person. I was by myself. [clears throat] And you stand at the [clears throat] And you stand at the [clears throat] And you stand at the side of the sea and look out. It's side of the sea and look out. It's side of the sea and look out. It's large. There's animals in there and the large. There's animals in there and the large. There's animals in there and the sea is big and you feel suddenly very sea is big and you feel suddenly very sea is big and you feel suddenly very small. and as soon as your toe hits the small. and as soon as your toe hits the small. and as soon as your toe hits the water, you're like, "No, this is a bad water, you're like, "No, this is a bad water, you're like, "No, this is a bad idea." Um, is cold one. I did not like idea." Um, is cold one. I did not like idea." Um, is cold one. I did not like the cold. Um, I now love the cold, but the cold. Um, I now love the cold, but the cold. Um, I now love the cold, but not for the cold, just for what it's not for the cold, just for what it's not for the cold, just for what it's done for me, done for me, done for me, >> but I was actually planning to move to >> but I was actually planning to move to >> but I was actually planning to move to Arizona at the time because I was out of Arizona at the time because I was out of Arizona at the time because I was out of here. I was done with this. here. I was done with this.
04:00here. I was done with this. >> Um, the cold and the rain and the wet >> Um, the cold and the rain and the wet >> Um, the cold and the rain and the wet and the depression I had every single and the depression I had every single and the depression I had every single year year year >> stays pretty gray here. I've now gone to >> stays pretty gray here. I've now gone to >> stays pretty gray here. I've now gone to places that are much colder than here places that are much colder than here places that are much colder than here that don't have the grayness and I'm I that don't have the grayness and I'm I that don't have the grayness and I'm I can see where oh having the sunshine in can see where oh having the sunshine in can see where oh having the sunshine in the cold is much better than just we the cold is much better than just we the cold is much better than just we just have gray all the time in the just have gray all the time in the just have gray all the time in the winter winter winter >> but [clears throat] >> but [clears throat] >> but [clears throat] so when you start to walk especially in so when you start to walk especially in so when you start to walk especially in the sea in my tank you just get in and the sea in my tank you just get in and the sea in my tank you just get in and sit down it's kind of immediate but the sit down it's kind of immediate but the sit down it's kind of immediate but the in the ocean or the sea you're walking in the ocean or the sea you're walking in the ocean or the sea you're walking and depends on how high the tide is you and depends on how high the tide is you and depends on how high the tide is you want to walk to at least your waist want to walk to at least your waist want to walk to at least your waist before you drop all the way in to get before you drop all the way in to get before you drop all the way in to get all the way down. all the way down. all the way down. >> And it doesn't matter that you know you >> And it doesn't matter that you know you >> And it doesn't matter that you know you know why you're there. You drove there, know why you're there. You drove there, know why you're there. You drove there, right? You have a swimming suit on. Like right? You have a swimming suit on. Like right? You have a swimming suit on. Like you're you know why you're there. But you're you know why you're there. But you're you know why you're there. But your reptilian brain comes online and your reptilian brain comes online and your reptilian brain comes online and starts to say no. Change my mind. starts to say no. Change my mind. starts to say no. Change my mind. >> Let's do this another day. I don't want >> Let's do this another day. I don't want >> Let's do this another day. I don't want to do this. Like all these thoughts come to do this. Like all these thoughts come to do this. Like all these thoughts come up. And it's so strong in some people.
05:00up. And it's so strong in some people. up. And it's so strong in some people. >> They they feel like they're going to >> They they feel like they're going to >> They they feel like they're going to die. die. die. >> I mean fight or that's what fight or >> I mean fight or that's what fight or >> I mean fight or that's what fight or flight is, right? Everyone has different flight is, right? Everyone has different flight is, right? Everyone has different varying degrees and different situations varying degrees and different situations varying degrees and different situations can cause different degrees. So there's can cause different degrees. So there's can cause different degrees. So there's a panic. I know when someone comes down a panic. I know when someone comes down a panic. I know when someone comes down the beach, I've now taken well over a the beach, I've now taken well over a the beach, I've now taken well over a thousand people. I can tell when someone thousand people. I can tell when someone thousand people. I can tell when someone walks down the beach if it's their first walks down the beach if it's their first walks down the beach if it's their first time just by the look on their face. time just by the look on their face. time just by the look on their face. >> Um, everyone shows up afraid. They might >> Um, everyone shows up afraid. They might >> Um, everyone shows up afraid. They might not say they're afraid. They might say, not say they're afraid. They might say, not say they're afraid. They might say, "I'm anxious or I'm nervous or I'm "I'm anxious or I'm nervous or I'm "I'm anxious or I'm nervous or I'm apprehensive." apprehensive." apprehensive." It's only a handful of people that come It's only a handful of people that come It's only a handful of people that come down like, "I'm so excited. I love the down like, "I'm so excited. I love the down like, "I'm so excited. I love the cold. That's happened, but it's only cold. That's happened, but it's only cold. That's happened, but it's only happened a few times. So, most people happened a few times. So, most people happened a few times. So, most people h they're doing a hard thing and they h they're doing a hard thing and they h they're doing a hard thing and they know it. I mean, they're brave just to know it. I mean, they're brave just to know it. I mean, they're brave just to show up, right? So, they show up at the show up, right? So, they show up at the show up, right? So, they show up at the beach, then they take off their clothes, beach, then they take off their clothes, beach, then they take off their clothes, [laughter] [laughter] [laughter] then they do a hard thing with then they do a hard thing with then they do a hard thing with strangers. So, it's a lot. I mean, I strangers. So, it's a lot. I mean, I strangers. So, it's a lot. I mean, I recognize there's a lot going on in that recognize there's a lot going on in that recognize there's a lot going on in that moment, but getting them all the way in
06:00moment, but getting them all the way in moment, but getting them all the way in is the first hurdle. is the first hurdle. is the first hurdle. Um, once they're all the way in, there's Um, once they're all the way in, there's Um, once they're all the way in, there's a little bit of mind over matter time a little bit of mind over matter time a little bit of mind over matter time where I give them where I give them where I give them an intention if they don't have one an intention if they don't have one an intention if they don't have one before all of the endorphins kick in. before all of the endorphins kick in. before all of the endorphins kick in. So, you get very high doses of dopamine So, you get very high doses of dopamine So, you get very high doses of dopamine and norepinephrine. And in community, and norepinephrine. And in community, and norepinephrine. And in community, you also get oxytocin. So, you also get oxytocin. So, you also get oxytocin. So, >> it suddenly becomes easy, suddenly >> it suddenly becomes easy, suddenly >> it suddenly becomes easy, suddenly becomes easier, [laughter] if not easy. becomes easier, [laughter] if not easy. becomes easier, [laughter] if not easy. And it's okay because if no one's there And it's okay because if no one's there And it's okay because if no one's there to help, to help, to help, most people don't go all the way in. most people don't go all the way in. most people don't go all the way in. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Like you said, h do you change your >> Like you said, h do you change your >> Like you said, h do you change your mind? Well, most people would change mind? Well, most people would change mind? Well, most people would change their mind. actually their mind would be their mind. actually their mind would be their mind. actually their mind would be changed for them by their autoomic changed for them by their autoomic changed for them by their autoomic nervous system that's trying to save nervous system that's trying to save nervous system that's trying to save their life. Because when you're that their life. Because when you're that their life. Because when you're that when you go to do this hard thing and when you go to do this hard thing and when you go to do this hard thing and people have an aversion to cold water, I people have an aversion to cold water, I people have an aversion to cold water, I mean, if you're doing dishes and the mean, if you're doing dishes and the mean, if you're doing dishes and the water gets cool because you walked away, water gets cool because you walked away, water gets cool because you walked away, what do you do? You pull your hand out what do you do? You pull your hand out what do you do? You pull your hand out and you add more hot water. You know, we
07:00and you add more hot water. You know, we and you add more hot water. You know, we just don't like it. And we weren't just don't like it. And we weren't just don't like it. And we weren't designed this way. We're designed to be designed this way. We're designed to be designed this way. We're designed to be outdoors where we have like a winter outdoors where we have like a winter outdoors where we have like a winter outfit and a summer outfit, not be not outfit and a summer outfit, not be not outfit and a summer outfit, not be not be constantly keeping our lives so be constantly keeping our lives so be constantly keeping our lives so temperature controlled. temperature controlled. temperature controlled. >> So, if you can get [clears throat] >> So, if you can get [clears throat] >> So, if you can get [clears throat] people past the hard part people past the hard part people past the hard part and let these things naturally occur in and let these things naturally occur in and let these things naturally occur in their body, their body, their body, then they're so grateful and they're then they're so grateful and they're then they're so grateful and they're they feel so amazing. I just need to get they feel so amazing. I just need to get they feel so amazing. I just need to get him to that point. Like if you can give him to that point. Like if you can give him to that point. Like if you can give me 30 seconds, I can give you two me 30 seconds, I can give you two me 30 seconds, I can give you two minutes minutes minutes >> because after 30 seconds before two >> because after 30 seconds before two >> because after 30 seconds before two minutes is bliss. minutes is bliss. minutes is bliss. But most people don't make it there. But most people don't make it there. But most people don't make it there. >> They try it alone or you know that that >> They try it alone or you know that that >> They try it alone or you know that that part of us is very strong. I joke that part of us is very strong. I joke that part of us is very strong. I joke that your body doesn't know did I fall off my your body doesn't know did I fall off my your body doesn't know did I fall off my Alaskan cruise, you know, like get me Alaskan cruise, you know, like get me Alaskan cruise, you know, like get me out of this water because I don't know out of this water because I don't know out of this water because I don't know what's going to happen. So there's high what's going to happen. So there's high what's going to happen. So there's high fear. There's high fear. fear. There's high fear. fear. There's high fear. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. And I would even think that at >> Yeah. And I would even think that at >> Yeah. And I would even think that at least like if I put myself in that
08:00least like if I put myself in that least like if I put myself in that position and like because I've done cold position and like because I've done cold position and like because I've done cold water plunges like personally and I'll water plunges like personally and I'll water plunges like personally and I'll get into that in a second, but I'm like get into that in a second, but I'm like get into that in a second, but I'm like thinking if I walked like drove to like thinking if I walked like drove to like thinking if I walked like drove to like a sea or like a beach and like I'm a sea or like a beach and like I'm a sea or like a beach and like I'm walking down it's like there's no quick walking down it's like there's no quick walking down it's like there's no quick way of getting out of there to get like way of getting out of there to get like way of getting out of there to get like warm and cozy like and so it's like that warm and cozy like and so it's like that warm and cozy like and so it's like that I feel like would be a little bit more I feel like would be a little bit more I feel like would be a little bit more of like a hesitation as well for some. of like a hesitation as well for some. of like a hesitation as well for some. It's cuz there's no like fleeing quickly It's cuz there's no like fleeing quickly It's cuz there's no like fleeing quickly to get that comfort back. It's like, oh to get that comfort back. It's like, oh to get that comfort back. It's like, oh no, you're going to have to now go back no, you're going to have to now go back no, you're going to have to now go back to your car, maybe get a t. It's like to your car, maybe get a t. It's like to your car, maybe get a t. It's like there's a lot more steps to get warmer there's a lot more steps to get warmer there's a lot more steps to get warmer than just being in that uncomfortable than just being in that uncomfortable than just being in that uncomfortable space, space, space, >> right? We have help people with what to >> right? We have help people with what to >> right? We have help people with what to bring, what to wear. Yes, our cars bring, what to wear. Yes, our cars bring, what to wear. Yes, our cars aren't very far away, but people want to aren't very far away, but people want to aren't very far away, but people want to get out and get, you know, get out of get out and get, you know, get out of get out and get, you know, get out of there quickly. Um, there quickly. Um, there quickly. Um, >> definitely. Definitely. And if you were >> definitely. Definitely. And if you were >> definitely. Definitely. And if you were going in nature, the most important going in nature, the most important going in nature, the most important thing is knowing where your heat source thing is knowing where your heat source thing is knowing where your heat source is. It's literally the most important is. It's literally the most important is. It's literally the most important thing. The time in the water is not the thing. The time in the water is not the thing. The time in the water is not the risk um of hypothermia or at 50° at 50°
09:00risk um of hypothermia or at 50° at 50° risk um of hypothermia or at 50° at 50° hypothermia, you would have to be in the hypothermia, you would have to be in the hypothermia, you would have to be in the water for an hour. I mean, it's it's a water for an hour. I mean, it's it's a water for an hour. I mean, it's it's a ridiculous amount of time. Um ridiculous amount of time. Um ridiculous amount of time. Um it's the out getting out of the water it's the out getting out of the water it's the out getting out of the water wet and being in nature's elements where wet and being in nature's elements where wet and being in nature's elements where the wind is blowing and the temperature the wind is blowing and the temperature the wind is blowing and the temperature often here is cold. You know, it's often here is cold. You know, it's often here is cold. You know, it's colder in the air. When it's 20 degrees colder in the air. When it's 20 degrees colder in the air. When it's 20 degrees out, the water's still 50. out, the water's still 50. out, the water's still 50. >> Um, the air is much more dangerous. >> Um, the air is much more dangerous. >> Um, the air is much more dangerous. Being out of the water is where the Being out of the water is where the Being out of the water is where the danger lies. And that's where I do a lot danger lies. And that's where I do a lot danger lies. And that's where I do a lot of my education. Like, you can't stand of my education. Like, you can't stand of my education. Like, you can't stand around in your swimming suit. You can't around in your swimming suit. You can't around in your swimming suit. You can't It's your fingers and don't work. It's your fingers and don't work. It's your fingers and don't work. >> You know, your ears are >> You know, your ears are >> You know, your ears are >> funny color. We have to get you dressed >> funny color. We have to get you dressed >> funny color. We have to get you dressed quickly and out of here. Get to your quickly and out of here. Get to your quickly and out of here. Get to your car. Um, but you people want to do hikes car. Um, but you people want to do hikes car. Um, but you people want to do hikes to alpine lakes and cold plunge. And the to alpine lakes and cold plunge. And the to alpine lakes and cold plunge. And the most important thing is where is heat? most important thing is where is heat? most important thing is where is heat? Where can I get a heat source? Because Where can I get a heat source? Because Where can I get a heat source? Because if you're not near your car because you if you're not near your car because you if you're not near your car because you just hiked in just hiked in just hiked in >> and you're fumbling around, your fingers >> and you're fumbling around, your fingers >> and you're fumbling around, your fingers don't work. don't work. don't work. >> This is a problem. Yeah, it's a problem. >> This is a problem. Yeah, it's a problem. >> This is a problem. Yeah, it's a problem. >> So, safety has to come first.
10:00>> So, safety has to come first. >> So, safety has to come first. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Wow. Going back to like even you >> Wow. Going back to like even you >> Wow. Going back to like even you mentioning, you know, seeing other mentioning, you know, seeing other mentioning, you know, seeing other people that it brings in like those people that it brings in like those people that it brings in like those those um endorphins or is it serotonin those um endorphins or is it serotonin those um endorphins or is it serotonin you said like being around the other you said like being around the other you said like being around the other people? people? people? >> Oxytocin. >> Oxytocin. >> Oxytocin. >> Oxytocin. Even >> Oxytocin. Even >> Oxytocin. Even >> yeah, I feel like even that would even >> yeah, I feel like even that would even >> yeah, I feel like even that would even give people I I would think even like give people I I would think even like give people I I would think even like myself that reassurance that like okay myself that reassurance that like okay myself that reassurance that like okay well if all these other people are doing well if all these other people are doing well if all these other people are doing it like I'm safe because if they weren't it like I'm safe because if they weren't it like I'm safe because if they weren't safe, you know, kind of tricking that safe, you know, kind of tricking that safe, you know, kind of tricking that fight orflight response is if they're fight orflight response is if they're fight orflight response is if they're safe then I should be safe and it's like safe then I should be safe and it's like safe then I should be safe and it's like it would simmer back that nervous system it would simmer back that nervous system it would simmer back that nervous system kind of back down. kind of back down. kind of back down. >> We're stronger together. We're stronger >> We're stronger together. We're stronger >> We're stronger together. We're stronger together for sure and it's easier together for sure and it's easier together for sure and it's easier together when you're lined up. We have together when you're lined up. We have together when you're lined up. We have on Sunday morning 40 to 70 people on a on Sunday morning 40 to 70 people on a on Sunday morning 40 to 70 people on a regular plunge. Special events get even regular plunge. Special events get even regular plunge. Special events get even larger. So people line up. We don't make larger. So people line up. We don't make larger. So people line up. We don't make them hold hands or anything, but um them hold hands or anything, but um them hold hands or anything, but um everyone waits for everyone to get to everyone waits for everyone to get to everyone waits for everyone to get to the beach on the down to the shore. We
11:00the beach on the down to the shore. We the beach on the down to the shore. We walk in together more or less. And I walk in together more or less. And I walk in together more or less. And I tell everyone we're stronger together tell everyone we're stronger together tell everyone we're stronger together and this is easier together. And there and this is easier together. And there and this is easier together. And there is a little bit of the social, you know, is a little bit of the social, you know, is a little bit of the social, you know, like I'm not going to turn around and go like I'm not going to turn around and go like I'm not going to turn around and go out. I'm going to be the only person out. I'm going to be the only person out. I'm going to be the only person that's going the wrong direction. that's going the wrong direction. that's going the wrong direction. There's a little bit of that like but There's a little bit of that like but There's a little bit of that like but there's it's not peer pressure because there's it's not peer pressure because there's it's not peer pressure because no one's going to tell you you have to no one's going to tell you you have to no one's going to tell you you have to and that would not be allowed. Um and that would not be allowed. Um and that would not be allowed. Um >> yeah, >> yeah, >> and if someone needs help, I get very >> and if someone needs help, I get very >> and if someone needs help, I get very close to them because I'm trained with close to them because I'm trained with close to them because I'm trained with breath work. But everyone encourages breath work. But everyone encourages breath work. But everyone encourages everyone. It's like there's an unwritten everyone. It's like there's an unwritten everyone. It's like there's an unwritten rule that you have to be so welcoming rule that you have to be so welcoming rule that you have to be so welcoming and helpful because as I said before, and helpful because as I said before, and helpful because as I said before, you have a look on your face if you're you have a look on your face if you're you have a look on your face if you're new and you're doing a hard thing. I new and you're doing a hard thing. I new and you're doing a hard thing. I mean, just taking off the swimsuit is mean, just taking off the swimsuit is mean, just taking off the swimsuit is hard for or taking off their, you know, hard for or taking off their, you know, hard for or taking off their, you know, sweats is a hard thing for some people. sweats is a hard thing for some people. sweats is a hard thing for some people. So that community of people that are So that community of people that are So that community of people that are doing the hard thing with you become so doing the hard thing with you become so doing the hard thing with you become so important and people are watching out important and people are watching out important and people are watching out for you and the new people when they for you and the new people when they for you and the new people when they leave everyone claps and screams and leave everyone claps and screams and leave everyone claps and screams and there's that embarrassed smile that you there's that embarrassed smile that you there's that embarrassed smile that you get you know like don't do that for me get you know like don't do that for me get you know like don't do that for me but thank you for doing that for me you but thank you for doing that for me you but thank you for doing that for me you know. Yeah.
12:00know. Yeah. know. Yeah. >> The town that we plunge in is a small >> The town that we plunge in is a small >> The town that we plunge in is a small town and they are town and they are town and they are >> not that many people in the town plunge. >> not that many people in the town plunge. >> not that many people in the town plunge. So they're all like oh you're those So they're all like oh you're those So they're all like oh you're those crazy people like do you guys know how crazy people like do you guys know how crazy people like do you guys know how cold it is? you know, they just um get a cold it is? you know, they just um get a cold it is? you know, they just um get a kick out of get a kick out of the fact kick out of get a kick out of the fact kick out of get a kick out of the fact that we do that. But there is an that we do that. But there is an that we do that. But there is an accountability, right? And there's also accountability, right? And there's also accountability, right? And there's also I like I I tell them all the time, I like I I tell them all the time, I like I I tell them all the time, there's dozens of benefits to cold there's dozens of benefits to cold there's dozens of benefits to cold plunging. plunging. plunging. >> Dozens. But there's dozens of benefits >> Dozens. But there's dozens of benefits >> Dozens. But there's dozens of benefits to working out. And there's dozens of to working out. And there's dozens of to working out. And there's dozens of benefits to eating certain ways. And benefits to eating certain ways. And benefits to eating certain ways. And people don't do all those things. people don't do all those things. people don't do all those things. They're not showing up every Sunday They're not showing up every Sunday They're not showing up every Sunday morning to do this. They have to go home morning to do this. They have to go home morning to do this. They have to go home and they have to get the sand out of and they have to get the sand out of and they have to get the sand out of their car and their clothes and they their car and their clothes and they their car and their clothes and they have to wash their laundry and all the have to wash their laundry and all the have to wash their laundry and all the things. They're not doing all those things. They're not doing all those things. They're not doing all those things for the health benefits. They're things for the health benefits. They're things for the health benefits. They're coming for the community and they're coming for the community and they're coming for the community and they're coming to not feel alone and for that coming to not feel alone and for that coming to not feel alone and for that dopamine. dopamine. dopamine. The dopamine hit is 250 times your base The dopamine hit is 250 times your base The dopamine hit is 250 times your base level. level. level. >> The norepinephrine is 520 times your >> The norepinephrine is 520 times your >> The norepinephrine is 520 times your base level. And then because you're base level. And then because you're base level. And then because you're doing it in a community, you're also doing it in a community, you're also doing it in a community, you're also getting oxy oxytocin. So you're
13:00getting oxy oxytocin. So you're getting oxy oxytocin. So you're literally leaving like on a high. You're literally leaving like on a high. You're literally leaving like on a high. You're like juiced up, ready for your day. You like juiced up, ready for your day. You like juiced up, ready for your day. You have good, clean energy that's going to have good, clean energy that's going to have good, clean energy that's going to last five or six hours. Your mood is last five or six hours. Your mood is last five or six hours. Your mood is boosted so high that nothing could bring boosted so high that nothing could bring boosted so high that nothing could bring you down. And so that's what they're you down. And so that's what they're you down. And so that's what they're coming for. That's what they're coming coming for. That's what they're coming coming for. That's what they're coming for. for. for. >> My very first cold punch I did all >> My very first cold punch I did all >> My very first cold punch I did all wrong. I did one minute. I was a wrong. I did one minute. I was a wrong. I did one minute. I was a countdown. Like I'm just going to stay countdown. Like I'm just going to stay countdown. Like I'm just going to stay one minute hyperventilating one minute hyperventilating one minute hyperventilating and just literally doing all the things and just literally doing all the things and just literally doing all the things wrong. wrong. wrong. And um And um And um I have been suffering from chronic back I have been suffering from chronic back I have been suffering from chronic back pain for more than 15 years, but also my pain for more than 15 years, but also my pain for more than 15 years, but also my depression from when my husband died. I depression from when my husband died. I depression from when my husband died. I was 24 years old. And a few years after was 24 years old. And a few years after was 24 years old. And a few years after that, my first husband died. So they that, my first husband died. So they that, my first husband died. So they were kind of back to back. were kind of back to back. were kind of back to back. >> And granted, one of them wasn't my >> And granted, one of them wasn't my >> And granted, one of them wasn't my husband at the time, but it that doesn't husband at the time, but it that doesn't husband at the time, but it that doesn't matter when you go through something matter when you go through something matter when you go through something like that. like that. like that. >> He was the father of my child. And I had >> He was the father of my child. And I had >> He was the father of my child. And I had just gone through it. So I was like just gone through it. So I was like just gone through it. So I was like extra like how the how how and they both
14:00extra like how the how how and they both extra like how the how how and they both drowned. So that's significant when you drowned. So that's significant when you drowned. So that's significant when you imagine I'm going into the sea. imagine I'm going into the sea. imagine I'm going into the sea. >> Oh my gosh. >> Oh my gosh. >> Oh my gosh. >> So those winters >> So those winters >> So those winters I mean time went by. I was I got very I mean time went by. I was I got very I mean time went by. I was I got very sick sick sick which makes perfect sense to me now. Um which makes perfect sense to me now. Um which makes perfect sense to me now. Um and I had a lot of anger and I did not and I had a lot of anger and I did not and I had a lot of anger and I did not process it very well. I wasn't a healthy process it very well. I wasn't a healthy process it very well. I wasn't a healthy physically. I wasn't healthy physically. I wasn't healthy physically. I wasn't healthy emotionally, spiritually. None of it. I emotionally, spiritually. None of it. I emotionally, spiritually. None of it. I it took 20 years before I started to it took 20 years before I started to it took 20 years before I started to actually live again. And I don't actually live again. And I don't actually live again. And I don't recommend that to anyone. It's not not recommend that to anyone. It's not not recommend that to anyone. It's not not the way to do it. the way to do it. the way to do it. But even after I started living a better But even after I started living a better But even after I started living a better life, a healthy lifestyle and having life, a healthy lifestyle and having life, a healthy lifestyle and having joy, having happiness in my life, joy, having happiness in my life, joy, having happiness in my life, from about October to February, I was from about October to February, I was from about October to February, I was depressed. Now, I had good reasons. depressed. Now, I had good reasons. depressed. Now, I had good reasons. There was several different There was several different There was several different anniversaries in that time. all the anniversaries in that time. all the anniversaries in that time. all the holidays during that time, the children holidays during that time, the children holidays during that time, the children that I that that there were so many that I that that there were so many that I that that there were so many reasons. I could tell you all the
15:00reasons. I could tell you all the reasons. I could tell you all the reasons, but it was this long period reasons, but it was this long period reasons, but it was this long period even in my happiness, even in my new even in my happiness, even in my new even in my happiness, even in my new good life, good life, good life, I went down. Now, during that period, I I went down. Now, during that period, I I went down. Now, during that period, I would usually have several several times would usually have several several times would usually have several several times I literally went down like into my room I literally went down like into my room I literally went down like into my room and didn't come out. It [clears throat] and didn't come out. It [clears throat] and didn't come out. It [clears throat] might be two days, it might be five might be two days, it might be five might be two days, it might be five days. My friends and family knew that days. My friends and family knew that days. My friends and family knew that was just how I was. And part of it was was just how I was. And part of it was was just how I was. And part of it was just my story that I was still telling just my story that I was still telling just my story that I was still telling because now it's 20 years. Now it's 25 because now it's 20 years. Now it's 25 because now it's 20 years. Now it's 25 years. years. years. >> But it was still very real. >> But it was still very real. >> But it was still very real. And the first day I cold plunched as I And the first day I cold plunched as I And the first day I cold plunched as I was walking back to my car again all was walking back to my car again all was walking back to my car again all wrong. I had my clothes on still. I had wrong. I had my clothes on still. I had wrong. I had my clothes on still. I had towel on me and I'm like shuffling back towel on me and I'm like shuffling back towel on me and I'm like shuffling back to my car. I had this very strange odd to my car. I had this very strange odd to my car. I had this very strange odd moment of something seemed off and I stopped something seemed off and I stopped and I realized I don't have any back and I realized I don't have any back and I realized I don't have any back pain. pain. pain. >> Wow. >> Wow. >> Wow. >> And that was the first time. >> And that was the first time. >> And that was the first time. >> Yeah. My very first plunge. So I like I >> Yeah. My very first plunge. So I like I >> Yeah. My very first plunge. So I like I I'm the person was like, "You tell me to I'm the person was like, "You tell me to I'm the person was like, "You tell me to do something, I'll try it." Like I'll
16:00do something, I'll try it." Like I'll do something, I'll try it." Like I'll try everything. I'm not one that will try everything. I'm not one that will try everything. I'm not one that will say I'll try everything and then if you say I'll try everything and then if you say I'll try everything and then if you say, "Have you tried copling?" No, I'm say, "Have you tried copling?" No, I'm say, "Have you tried copling?" No, I'm not doing that. because I know I've seen not doing that. because I know I've seen not doing that. because I know I've seen pictures of people in ice bass that I pictures of people in ice bass that I pictures of people in ice bass that I was hor horrified by in the past, right? was hor horrified by in the past, right? was hor horrified by in the past, right? Hor I don't think I would have started Hor I don't think I would have started Hor I don't think I would have started there but you know so I came home and there but you know so I came home and there but you know so I came home and started researching and sure enough it's started researching and sure enough it's started researching and sure enough it's everywhere helps with chronic pain. I everywhere helps with chronic pain. I everywhere helps with chronic pain. I was pissed. was pissed. was pissed. >> No one ever told me no health >> No one ever told me no health >> No one ever told me no health professional ever told me and no one professional ever told me and no one professional ever told me and no one else ever told me. So, I started one of else ever told me. So, I started one of else ever told me. So, I started one of the next thing that happened was as I the next thing that happened was as I the next thing that happened was as I was doing this research and I started was doing this research and I started was doing this research and I started shouting about it, you know, on social shouting about it, you know, on social shouting about it, you know, on social like whoever who knew this and why like whoever who knew this and why like whoever who knew this and why didn't you tell me and who wants to go didn't you tell me and who wants to go didn't you tell me and who wants to go with me? I realized I'm freaking happy. with me? I realized I'm freaking happy. with me? I realized I'm freaking happy. >> Oh, >> Oh, >> Oh, >> I felt so good >> I felt so good >> I felt so good that winter is the first winter I didn't that winter is the first winter I didn't that winter is the first winter I didn't go down. go down. go down. >> Wow. >> Wow. >> And I haven't had it. Hasn't come back. >> And I haven't had it. Hasn't come back. >> And I haven't had it. Hasn't come back. >> Wow. So, >> Wow. So, >> Wow. So, >> so although my the deaths in my life had >> so although my the deaths in my life had >> so although my the deaths in my life had been it was 28 years.
17:00been it was 28 years. been it was 28 years. I was stuck. I had some stuckness, you I was stuck. I had some stuckness, you I was stuck. I had some stuckness, you know, I had some dysfunction in my um know, I had some dysfunction in my um know, I had some dysfunction in my um life, life, life, but it it shook it out of me. And I but it it shook it out of me. And I but it it shook it out of me. And I still have a practice and my mood is not still have a practice and my mood is not still have a practice and my mood is not boosted as high each time, but I still boosted as high each time, but I still boosted as high each time, but I still there's many days. I mean, I founded there's many days. I mean, I founded there's many days. I mean, I founded this group. It's now 5,200 people in not this group. It's now 5,200 people in not this group. It's now 5,200 people in not even four years. Yeah. And I show up even four years. Yeah. And I show up even four years. Yeah. And I show up every Sunday unless I'm out of town. every Sunday unless I'm out of town. every Sunday unless I'm out of town. There's been two times I miss because I There's been two times I miss because I There's been two times I miss because I didn't want to go. Every other week I'm didn't want to go. Every other week I'm didn't want to go. Every other week I'm there. And I promise you I don't want to there. And I promise you I don't want to there. And I promise you I don't want to go every week. go every week. go every week. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> You know, I love I love everyone there, >> You know, I love I love everyone there, >> You know, I love I love everyone there, but there's days, you know, you want to but there's days, you know, you want to but there's days, you know, you want to sleep in on a Sunday. That has not sleep in on a Sunday. That has not sleep in on a Sunday. That has not happened. I have not slept in on a happened. I have not slept in on a happened. I have not slept in on a Sunday since September of 2021. Um but Sunday since September of 2021. Um but Sunday since September of 2021. Um but I've never regretted going. I never I've never regretted going. I never I've never regretted going. I never regretted a plunge and I always come regretted a plunge and I always come regretted a plunge and I always come back in a great mood. Yeah. Yeah. And back in a great mood. Yeah. Yeah. And back in a great mood. Yeah. Yeah. And that's one of the things that cold that's one of the things that cold that's one of the things that cold plunging does
18:00plunging does plunging does is it boosts your mood and it's those is it boosts your mood and it's those is it boosts your mood and it's those it's those endorphins it's those endorphins it's those endorphins >> and such high high percent and high >> and such high high percent and high >> and such high high percent and high doses that you just feel amazing. Yeah, doses that you just feel amazing. Yeah, doses that you just feel amazing. Yeah, you just feel amazing. you just feel amazing. you just feel amazing. >> So is that was that just something you >> So is that was that just something you >> So is that was that just something you just tried at the sea or where did you just tried at the sea or where did you just tried at the sea or where did you try it for your first time? try it for your first time? try it for your first time? >> I tried at the sea. Well, actually I >> I tried at the sea. Well, actually I >> I tried at the sea. Well, actually I filled my bathtub. It's a doctor that I filled my bathtub. It's a doctor that I filled my bathtub. It's a doctor that I followed. I was working on my followed. I was working on my followed. I was working on my mitochondrial health when everyone got mitochondrial health when everyone got mitochondrial health when everyone got sick at CO. I was like, why is everyone sick at CO. I was like, why is everyone sick at CO. I was like, why is everyone getting sick? And I just thought, getting sick? And I just thought, getting sick? And I just thought, everyone's immune system is just on the everyone's immune system is just on the everyone's immune system is just on the bench drinking beer and eating pizza. I bench drinking beer and eating pizza. I bench drinking beer and eating pizza. I don't know. Why aren't we healthier? And don't know. Why aren't we healthier? And don't know. Why aren't we healthier? And I started looking into mitochondrial I started looking into mitochondrial I started looking into mitochondrial health. And I actually was doing it for health. And I actually was doing it for health. And I actually was doing it for my mitochondrial health. I filled up my my mitochondrial health. I filled up my my mitochondrial health. I filled up my bathtub and I just got all the ice in my bathtub and I just got all the ice in my bathtub and I just got all the ice in my freezer, which by the way, as soon as freezer, which by the way, as soon as freezer, which by the way, as soon as you add it to the bath water, it melts. you add it to the bath water, it melts. you add it to the bath water, it melts. I mean, I mean, I mean, >> a home bath needs probably um 80 to 100 >> a home bath needs probably um 80 to 100 >> a home bath needs probably um 80 to 100 pounds of ice to get a home bath. Yeah, pounds of ice to get a home bath. Yeah, pounds of ice to get a home bath. Yeah, >> no, you could probably do 50 to 80. But
19:00>> no, you could probably do 50 to 80. But >> no, you could probably do 50 to 80. But anyway, I anyway, I anyway, I was like, well, that's not good. And you was like, well, that's not good. And you was like, well, that's not good. And you know, tap cold here is about 55. So, know, tap cold here is about 55. So, know, tap cold here is about 55. So, that actually is cold enough, but it's that actually is cold enough, but it's that actually is cold enough, but it's not very appealing, right? This isn't not very appealing, right? This isn't not very appealing, right? This isn't bath. I love to take hot baths. And then bath. I love to take hot baths. And then bath. I love to take hot baths. And then I'm looking at this water and then I put I'm looking at this water and then I put I'm looking at this water and then I put my foot in. I pulled it back out and I my foot in. I pulled it back out and I my foot in. I pulled it back out and I plug and I pulled the drain plug and I pulled the drain plug and I pulled the drain >> and the doctor said, "You know, you live >> and the doctor said, "You know, you live >> and the doctor said, "You know, you live in the Pacific Northwest. You can go in in the Pacific Northwest. You can go in in the Pacific Northwest. You can go in the Puget Sound." And I was like, "Why the Puget Sound." And I was like, "Why the Puget Sound." And I was like, "Why would I? would I? would I? The beach where I go, I'd only been The beach where I go, I'd only been The beach where I go, I'd only been there once and it was paddle boarding." there once and it was paddle boarding." there once and it was paddle boarding." And the whole time I usually go on a And the whole time I usually go on a And the whole time I usually go on a lake. I went here paddle boarding once lake. I went here paddle boarding once lake. I went here paddle boarding once and the whole time I was like, "Don't and the whole time I was like, "Don't and the whole time I was like, "Don't fall in. Don't fall in. It's so cold. Oh fall in. Don't fall in. It's so cold. Oh fall in. Don't fall in. It's so cold. Oh my god, there's jellyfish. It was like my god, there's jellyfish. It was like my god, there's jellyfish. It was like this terrible experience. I didn't this terrible experience. I didn't this terrible experience. I didn't >> It was terrible experience. So, >> It was terrible experience. So, >> It was terrible experience. So, >> I knew it was cold and there's jellyfish >> I knew it was cold and there's jellyfish >> I knew it was cold and there's jellyfish and other things. And so, I had to just and other things. And so, I had to just and other things. And so, I had to just get over that. So, when I when she get over that. So, when I when she get over that. So, when I when she suggested I go, that's when I was like, suggested I go, that's when I was like, suggested I go, that's when I was like, "Well, I can I want to be healthier. I'm "Well, I can I want to be healthier. I'm "Well, I can I want to be healthier. I'm going to do this thing. I can do hard
20:00going to do this thing. I can do hard going to do this thing. I can do hard things." Um, but I had no idea that things." Um, but I had no idea that things." Um, but I had no idea that it was going to I literally I just it was going to I literally I just it was going to I literally I just thought I would have depression my whole thought I would have depression my whole thought I would have depression my whole life. Yeah, life. Yeah, life. Yeah, >> I am a depressed person. That was kind >> I am a depressed person. That was kind >> I am a depressed person. That was kind of my, you know, of my, you know, of my, you know, >> story, >> story, >> story, >> right? It could be on my gravestone >> right? It could be on my gravestone >> right? It could be on my gravestone someday. Here lies Ranatada. She gets someday. Here lies Ranatada. She gets someday. Here lies Ranatada. She gets depressed. depressed. depressed. [laughter] >> Yeah. And it's hardly wrong with getting >> Yeah. And it's hardly wrong with getting depressed, but it's like a pattern. depressed, but it's like a pattern. depressed, but it's like a pattern. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. >> Yeah. It's like we can easily get stuck >> Yeah. It's like we can easily get stuck >> Yeah. It's like we can easily get stuck in that and then it's like we'll find in that and then it's like we'll find in that and then it's like we'll find things to reaffirm, oh, see, this is why things to reaffirm, oh, see, this is why things to reaffirm, oh, see, this is why I feel this way. And then it's like it I feel this way. And then it's like it I feel this way. And then it's like it just keeps going and going and we'll just keeps going and going and we'll just keeps going and going and we'll just easily jump on that merrygoround. just easily jump on that merrygoround. just easily jump on that merrygoround. And And And >> it's sometimes it's just hard to just >> it's sometimes it's just hard to just >> it's sometimes it's just hard to just get off and be like, I don't have to get off and be like, I don't have to get off and be like, I don't have to keep going back on that. And keep going back on that. And keep going back on that. And >> exactly. >> exactly. >> exactly. >> Um >> Um >> Um >> Exactly. >> Exactly. >> Exactly. >> Yeah. So the first time that you got out >> Yeah. So the first time that you got out >> Yeah. So the first time that you got out >> Go ahead. >> Go ahead. >> Go ahead. >> Yeah. Well, I just say some years were >> Yeah. Well, I just say some years were >> Yeah. Well, I just say some years were worse than others and better than worse than others and better than worse than others and better than others. Of course. But it's definitely others. Of course. But it's definitely others. Of course. But it's definitely was Oh, yeah. And here's that time. The was Oh, yeah. And here's that time. The was Oh, yeah. And here's that time. The reason I'm going to be sad now. reason I'm going to be sad now. reason I'm going to be sad now. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Of course I'm sad, right? >> Of course I'm sad, right? >> Of course I'm sad, right? >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Christmas. [laughter]
21:00>> Christmas. [laughter] >> Christmas. [laughter] >> Yeah. Or even like music. I've talked >> Yeah. Or even like music. I've talked >> Yeah. Or even like music. I've talked with someone like about music and how with someone like about music and how with someone like about music and how like it changes our mood and stuff and I like it changes our mood and stuff and I like it changes our mood and stuff and I said, "Oh yeah, absolutely." Like I said, "Oh yeah, absolutely." Like I said, "Oh yeah, absolutely." Like I could listen to a song and not be could listen to a song and not be could listen to a song and not be thinking about my brother that died and thinking about my brother that died and thinking about my brother that died and then I'm like sitting there sad and then I'm like sitting there sad and then I'm like sitting there sad and depressed over it because I heard a song depressed over it because I heard a song depressed over it because I heard a song and then it's like, "Oh, well yeah, if and then it's like, "Oh, well yeah, if and then it's like, "Oh, well yeah, if I'm if I'm going to constantly be I'm if I'm going to constantly be I'm if I'm going to constantly be putting things in my in my mind that is putting things in my in my mind that is putting things in my in my mind that is going to make me feel sad, then what is going to make me feel sad, then what is going to make me feel sad, then what is my mind supposed to do?" It's not going my mind supposed to do?" It's not going my mind supposed to do?" It's not going to feel happy. to feel happy. to feel happy. >> No, >> No, >> No, >> it's going to be like, "Oh, we're >> it's going to be like, "Oh, we're >> it's going to be like, "Oh, we're supposed to be sad right now." Right. supposed to be sad right now." Right. supposed to be sad right now." Right. Um, but so when you first got out the Um, but so when you first got out the Um, but so when you first got out the first time out of the sea, were you like first time out of the sea, were you like first time out of the sea, were you like I'm going to do this again or were you I'm going to do this again or were you I'm going to do this again or were you like this is like this is like this is >> when I was walking to my car? I didn't >> when I was walking to my car? I didn't >> when I was walking to my car? I didn't know. But by the time I got home, I knew know. But by the time I got home, I knew know. But by the time I got home, I knew I was back the next day. And I I thought I was back the next day. And I I thought I was back the next day. And I I thought one minute, okay, I'm going to add 30 one minute, okay, I'm going to add 30 one minute, okay, I'm going to add 30 seconds a week. I thought I was going to seconds a week. I thought I was going to seconds a week. I thought I was going to go once a week in my, you know, my go once a week in my, you know, my go once a week in my, you know, my planning mind was like, okay, I'm gonna planning mind was like, okay, I'm gonna planning mind was like, okay, I'm gonna go every Sunday. Okay, I had 30 seconds go every Sunday. Okay, I had 30 seconds go every Sunday. Okay, I had 30 seconds a week and then by Christmas maybe I'll a week and then by Christmas maybe I'll a week and then by Christmas maybe I'll be up to 20 minutes. Okay, don't make
22:00be up to 20 minutes. Okay, don't make be up to 20 minutes. Okay, don't make silly plans like that. I didn't know silly plans like that. I didn't know silly plans like that. I didn't know anything. So my daughter um said, "Well, anything. So my daughter um said, "Well, anything. So my daughter um said, "Well, mom, you could probably have lasted more mom, you could probably have lasted more mom, you could probably have lasted more than one minute." And I was like, "What? than one minute." And I was like, "What? than one minute." And I was like, "What? Why?" She's like, "Well, how do you Why?" She's like, "Well, how do you Why?" She's like, "Well, how do you know? You didn't even try." So she went know? You didn't even try." So she went know? You didn't even try." So she went with me and I think we lasted three with me and I think we lasted three with me and I think we lasted three minutes. I was like, "Wow, because minutes. I was like, "Wow, because minutes. I was like, "Wow, because really you need two minutes for the really you need two minutes for the really you need two minutes for the health benefits." I didn't know that. I health benefits." I didn't know that. I health benefits." I didn't know that. I didn't know anything. Um, someone asked didn't know anything. Um, someone asked didn't know anything. Um, someone asked me, "Oh, you're doing like Wimhof me, "Oh, you're doing like Wimhof me, "Oh, you're doing like Wimhof stuff?" And I was like, "I don't know." stuff?" And I was like, "I don't know." stuff?" And I was like, "I don't know." I thought that was a thing, not a name. I thought that was a thing, not a name. I thought that was a thing, not a name. I didn't even I mean, literally, I I didn't even I mean, literally, I I didn't even I mean, literally, I didn't know anything. So, I was just didn't know anything. So, I was just didn't know anything. So, I was just researching. Um, researching. Um, researching. Um, >> but I realized that a lot of people were >> but I realized that a lot of people were >> but I realized that a lot of people were interested. So, now it's so common interested. So, now it's so common interested. So, now it's so common place. place. place. >> Just three just four years ago, it >> Just three just four years ago, it >> Just three just four years ago, it wasn't. wasn't. wasn't. >> Um, >> Um, >> Um, >> and we have a lot of beaches here. And >> and we have a lot of beaches here. And >> and we have a lot of beaches here. And now, now, now, I mean, you can go to the beaches any I mean, you can go to the beaches any I mean, you can go to the beaches any day of the week and see people cope day of the week and see people cope day of the week and see people cope blending. blending. blending. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> And when I started, that was not the >> And when I started, that was not the >> And when I started, that was not the case. case. case. >> People thought there were people that
23:00>> People thought there were people that >> People thought there were people that thought I was trying to hurt myself. thought I was trying to hurt myself. thought I was trying to hurt myself. >> Like, >> Like, >> Like, >> oh my >> oh my >> oh my >> suicide by drowning, walking out like, >> suicide by drowning, walking out like, >> suicide by drowning, walking out like, "Are you okay, ma'am?" We have a mental "Are you okay, ma'am?" We have a mental "Are you okay, ma'am?" We have a mental hospital close [laughter] by. hospital close [laughter] by. hospital close [laughter] by. Literally like, "Are you okay?" Um, Literally like, "Are you okay?" Um, Literally like, "Are you okay?" Um, >> oh my gosh. >> oh my gosh. >> oh my gosh. But it w it was not common place. I mean But it w it was not common place. I mean But it w it was not common place. I mean it was coming. I mean if not me it would it was coming. I mean if not me it would it was coming. I mean if not me it would have been someone else. I had met people have been someone else. I had met people have been someone else. I had met people that were already doing it and said I've that were already doing it and said I've that were already doing it and said I've been trying to get people to come. How'd been trying to get people to come. How'd been trying to get people to come. How'd you get them to come? And I think it was you get them to come? And I think it was you get them to come? And I think it was just kind of a right place right time. just kind of a right place right time. just kind of a right place right time. And I was so passionate because it And I was so passionate because it And I was so passionate because it changed me so much in two ways pain changed me so much in two ways pain changed me so much in two ways pain points both pain points right physical points both pain points right physical points both pain points right physical pain and emotional pain. And anyone that pain and emotional pain. And anyone that pain and emotional pain. And anyone that knew me knew it was working because it knew me knew it was working because it knew me knew it was working because it was clearly working. Anyone that didn't was clearly working. Anyone that didn't was clearly working. Anyone that didn't know me believed me because I was so know me believed me because I was so know me believed me because I was so adamant and I started just inviting adamant and I started just inviting adamant and I started just inviting people if you want to go I'll go with people if you want to go I'll go with people if you want to go I'll go with you because I really wanted people to go you because I really wanted people to go you because I really wanted people to go with also with also with also >> and within a month it >> and within a month it >> and within a month it people I didn't know were asking me. So
24:00people I didn't know were asking me. So people I didn't know were asking me. So I said I'll put it on the calendar once I said I'll put it on the calendar once I said I'll put it on the calendar once a week. I was started going every day. I a week. I was started going every day. I a week. I was started going every day. I put a tank in my yard and I quickly put a tank in my yard and I quickly put a tank in my yard and I quickly became, became, became, you know, the the expert, which I had no you know, the the expert, which I had no you know, the the expert, which I had no training at the time. Um, I didn't know training at the time. Um, I didn't know training at the time. Um, I didn't know there was such a thing as training. there was such a thing as training. there was such a thing as training. And so when I put it on the calendar, I And so when I put it on the calendar, I And so when I put it on the calendar, I had to put it on the calendar because had to put it on the calendar because had to put it on the calendar because one day someone showed up and I didn't one day someone showed up and I didn't one day someone showed up and I didn't know they were coming. And back then I know they were coming. And back then I know they were coming. And back then I still knew who was coming, when they still knew who was coming, when they still knew who was coming, when they were coming, what their name was. They were coming, what their name was. They were coming, what their name was. They asked me a lot of questions. He [snorts] asked me a lot of questions. He [snorts] asked me a lot of questions. He [snorts] said, "No, I just heard about it." And I said, "No, I just heard about it." And I said, "No, I just heard about it." And I was like, "Oh, I actually have to be was like, "Oh, I actually have to be was like, "Oh, I actually have to be here." Even if I don't know anyone's here." Even if I don't know anyone's here." Even if I don't know anyone's coming. So, it just it took off like coming. So, it just it took off like coming. So, it just it took off like crazy. It just really really took off crazy. It just really really took off crazy. It just really really took off like crazy. It was right after COVID like crazy. It was right after COVID like crazy. It was right after COVID stuff, you know, or even actually, you stuff, you know, or even actually, you stuff, you know, or even actually, you know, the end of it and Sundays know, the end of it and Sundays know, the end of it and Sundays outdoors, you can have six feet outdoors, you can have six feet outdoors, you can have six feet and so and people just needed that, you and so and people just needed that, you and so and people just needed that, you know, they needed community. We now have know, they needed community. We now have know, they needed community. We now have so much so much so much friendships, people that didn't know
25:00friendships, people that didn't know friendships, people that didn't know each other before. Now there's an each other before. Now there's an each other before. Now there's an engagement, people that met there. engagement, people that met there. engagement, people that met there. >> That's so cool. >> That's so cool. >> That's so cool. >> Yeah. Yeah. Uh roommate situations and >> Yeah. Yeah. Uh roommate situations and >> Yeah. Yeah. Uh roommate situations and um people that have made, like I said, um people that have made, like I said, um people that have made, like I said, you're bonded pretty fast when you you're bonded pretty fast when you you're bonded pretty fast when you >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> do a hard thing together. >> do a hard thing together. >> do a hard thing together. >> Yeah. Yeah. Absolutely. Yeah. Yeah, but >> Yeah. Yeah. Absolutely. Yeah. Yeah, but >> Yeah. Yeah. Absolutely. Yeah. Yeah, but as far as PTSD, as far as PTSD, as far as PTSD, >> grief, addicts, it's very powerful for >> grief, addicts, it's very powerful for >> grief, addicts, it's very powerful for those categories. those categories. those categories. >> Um, >> Um, >> because it forces you to be in the >> because it forces you to be in the >> because it forces you to be in the moment moment moment >> right now. Forces you to you also have >> right now. Forces you to you also have >> right now. Forces you to you also have this sense of accomplishment like I just this sense of accomplishment like I just this sense of accomplishment like I just did that thing. And for what grieving did that thing. And for what grieving did that thing. And for what grieving people, it does is says I'm still here. people, it does is says I'm still here. people, it does is says I'm still here. >> Like this connects my my head and my >> Like this connects my my head and my >> Like this connects my my head and my heart. And we just get out of we get out heart. And we just get out of we get out heart. And we just get out of we get out of that. of that. of that. >> We just get stuck in pain. >> We just get stuck in pain. >> We just get stuck in pain. >> You can't be anywhere but present when >> You can't be anywhere but present when >> You can't be anywhere but present when you're in the cold. You you can't think you're in the cold. You you can't think you're in the cold. You you can't think of your list.
26:00of your list. of your list. >> You can't be sorry for yourself. You >> You can't be sorry for yourself. You >> You can't be sorry for yourself. You just have to be present. And so you just have to be present. And so you just have to be present. And so you build resilience and build resilience and build resilience and the that's one of the bigger things that the that's one of the bigger things that the that's one of the bigger things that happened to me was the resilience happened to me was the resilience happened to me was the resilience building. Before I started co-plunching, building. Before I started co-plunching, building. Before I started co-plunching, I was afraid of everything. I was I was afraid of everything. I was I was afraid of everything. I was literally afraid of. and I'm not afraid literally afraid of. and I'm not afraid literally afraid of. and I'm not afraid of much anymore. And I think on a of much anymore. And I think on a of much anymore. And I think on a cellular level, you get in the you you cellular level, you get in the you you cellular level, you get in the you you face fight or flight every single day. face fight or flight every single day. face fight or flight every single day. >> Body starts to believe you when you're >> Body starts to believe you when you're >> Body starts to believe you when you're like, I can do this. I can do this. I like, I can do this. I can do this. I like, I can do this. I can do this. I can do this. So then something happens can do this. So then something happens can do this. So then something happens outside of the cold that I normally outside of the cold that I normally outside of the cold that I normally would have melted down, cried, ran away, would have melted down, cried, ran away, would have melted down, cried, ran away, whatever I would do, my different whatever I would do, my different whatever I would do, my different defense mechanisms. And now I just face defense mechanisms. And now I just face defense mechanisms. And now I just face the thing because on a cellular level my the thing because on a cellular level my the thing because on a cellular level my body's like go, you can do this. I don't body's like go, you can do this. I don't body's like go, you can do this. I don't have to stop and think about it. have to stop and think about it. have to stop and think about it. >> Yeah. Um it's like it's already done >> Yeah. Um it's like it's already done >> Yeah. Um it's like it's already done such a such a difficult thing already such a such a difficult thing already such a such a difficult thing already that it's like a this is easy compared that it's like a this is easy compared that it's like a this is easy compared to to to >> I don't have to even my my daughters are
27:00>> I don't have to even my my daughters are >> I don't have to even my my daughters are like mom you know you would normally like mom you know you would normally like mom you know you would normally have already lost it and I'm like have already lost it and I'm like have already lost it and I'm like >> oh yeah it's the new me my confidence >> oh yeah it's the new me my confidence >> oh yeah it's the new me my confidence that's the name of the business is one that's the name of the business is one that's the name of the business is one year after year after year after um starting the pet plungers I I well um starting the pet plungers I I well um starting the pet plungers I I well partway through I went to Arizona and I partway through I went to Arizona and I partway through I went to Arizona and I got in this machine that makes ice and got in this machine that makes ice and got in this machine that makes ice and it's pretty fantastic. Fantic. I found it's pretty fantastic. Fantic. I found it's pretty fantastic. Fantic. I found that all the benefits are heightened that all the benefits are heightened that all the benefits are heightened under 40° and the sound doesn't ever get under 40° and the sound doesn't ever get under 40° and the sound doesn't ever get under 40° and I wanted the machine but under 40° and I wanted the machine but under 40° and I wanted the machine but the machines are very expensive. So, the machines are very expensive. So, the machines are very expensive. So, um I found someone that would give me a um I found someone that would give me a um I found someone that would give me a loan but I'd have to pay it back, loan but I'd have to pay it back, loan but I'd have to pay it back, [laughter] right? So, I said I'll just [laughter] right? So, I said I'll just [laughter] right? So, I said I'll just make a business out of it, you know. And make a business out of it, you know. And make a business out of it, you know. And Dom was talking to a reporter that came Dom was talking to a reporter that came Dom was talking to a reporter that came and he said, "What no what have you and he said, "What no what have you and he said, "What no what have you noticed different about her?" He I was noticed different about her?" He I was noticed different about her?" He I was all miked up and had cameras on me and all miked up and had cameras on me and all miked up and had cameras on me and you know did this interview and Don said you know did this interview and Don said you know did this interview and Don said well she's so much more confident and I well she's so much more confident and I well she's so much more confident and I was really fast to go I am not and he
28:00was really fast to go I am not and he was really fast to go I am not and he was like was like was like what look what you just did I used to what look what you just did I used to what look what you just did I used to not even you know if anyone said you not even you know if anyone said you not even you know if anyone said you want to talk don't even talk to me I want to talk don't even talk to me I want to talk don't even talk to me I would like hide behind him would like hide behind him would like hide behind him >> so it's like a moment of realization >> so it's like a moment of realization >> so it's like a moment of realization like oh yeah like oh yeah like oh yeah >> you know when I started every time I >> you know when I started every time I >> you know when I started every time I went to the beach I was almost in went to the beach I was almost in went to the beach I was almost in lumping my throat and so nervous that I lumping my throat and so nervous that I lumping my throat and so nervous that I had to talk to the new people because I had to talk to the new people because I had to talk to the new people because I have to be able to give them a safety have to be able to give them a safety have to be able to give them a safety talk an explanation as well as walk them talk an explanation as well as walk them talk an explanation as well as walk them through what's going to happen all in a through what's going to happen all in a through what's going to happen all in a very short time because it's cold and very short time because it's cold and very short time because it's cold and then at the end of my talk I say are then at the end of my talk I say are then at the end of my talk I say are there any questions and the answer needs there any questions and the answer needs there any questions and the answer needs to be no because it's cold everyone on to be no because it's cold everyone on to be no because it's cold everyone on the beach is ready to go in we can't go the beach is ready to go in we can't go the beach is ready to go in we can't go in until I say we now we can but you in until I say we now we can but you in until I say we now we can but you know everyone's waiting for me to finish know everyone's waiting for me to finish know everyone's waiting for me to finish talking to the new people talking to the new people talking to the new people >> and then we're taking off our sweats and >> and then we're taking off our sweats and >> and then we're taking off our sweats and getting in the water. So, it's a pretty getting in the water. So, it's a pretty getting in the water. So, it's a pretty specific little thing I have worked out specific little thing I have worked out specific little thing I have worked out and and and I would just get nervous about it and I would just get nervous about it and I would just get nervous about it and like not want to do it.
29:00like not want to do it. like not want to do it. >> But my biggest joy to this day is still >> But my biggest joy to this day is still >> But my biggest joy to this day is still the new people. Um the new people. Um the new people. Um because they because they because they find so much hope. find so much hope. find so much hope. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> And they all come, it seems like they >> And they all come, it seems like they >> And they all come, it seems like they all can come with like their own set of all can come with like their own set of all can come with like their own set of baggage and like baggage and like baggage and like >> Oh, yeah. It's like it just melts away >> Oh, yeah. It's like it just melts away >> Oh, yeah. It's like it just melts away into the water and like just into the water and like just into the water and like just >> is gone. >> is gone. >> is gone. >> The water can hold it, right? So, you >> The water can hold it, right? So, you >> The water can hold it, right? So, you can leave it in the water. Not saying can leave it in the water. Not saying can leave it in the water. Not saying you're leaving it there forever. I mean, you're leaving it there forever. I mean, you're leaving it there forever. I mean, there's [laughter] there's [laughter] there's [laughter] it's not a miracle, but it is like a it's not a miracle, but it is like a it's not a miracle, but it is like a magic. It's a medicine. magic. It's a medicine. magic. It's a medicine. >> I mean, and really, our body is a >> I mean, and really, our body is a >> I mean, and really, our body is a pharmacy. We just pharmacy. We just pharmacy. We just >> don't know how to access it. We've got >> don't know how to access it. We've got >> don't know how to access it. We've got we've gotten away from nature. We've we've gotten away from nature. We've we've gotten away from nature. We've gotten away from gotten away from gotten away from >> using what we've already got, how to >> using what we've already got, how to >> using what we've already got, how to access things. So access things. So access things. So this is just a way to access our own this is just a way to access our own this is just a way to access our own body's medicine, you know. body's medicine, you know. body's medicine, you know. >> Yeah. Yeah. It's so crucial. Um >> Yeah. Yeah. It's so crucial. Um >> Yeah. Yeah. It's so crucial. Um in order to access those and um yeah, in order to access those and um yeah, in order to access those and um yeah, when we initially when I initially like
30:00when we initially when I initially like when we initially when I initially like met you through taps um on the Dare to met you through taps um on the Dare to met you through taps um on the Dare to Lead uh group, I was like, "Oh, I Lead uh group, I was like, "Oh, I Lead uh group, I was like, "Oh, I definitely want to know more about like definitely want to know more about like definitely want to know more about like what you do, you know?" you know. So, I what you do, you know?" you know. So, I what you do, you know?" you know. So, I started following like your social media started following like your social media started following like your social media cuz initially in the beginning of my cuz initially in the beginning of my cuz initially in the beginning of my grief, it was like so my brother passed grief, it was like so my brother passed grief, it was like so my brother passed in 2020 and then it wasn't until like in 2020 and then it wasn't until like in 2020 and then it wasn't until like 2021 we moved all this stuff and then it 2021 we moved all this stuff and then it 2021 we moved all this stuff and then it was like I started getting wind of like was like I started getting wind of like was like I started getting wind of like cold plunges and I was like I want to do cold plunges and I was like I want to do cold plunges and I was like I want to do anything and everything because I'm anything and everything because I'm anything and everything because I'm drowning in this grief, you I'm like, so drowning in this grief, you I'm like, so drowning in this grief, you I'm like, so I was doing everything. And so I did I was doing everything. And so I did I was doing everything. And so I did cold pl I started doing showers and then cold pl I started doing showers and then cold pl I started doing showers and then I was like, it just wasn't enough. Like I was like, it just wasn't enough. Like I was like, it just wasn't enough. Like it wasn't it was that shock, but it it wasn't it was that shock, but it it wasn't it was that shock, but it wasn't like that real deep. I feel like wasn't like that real deep. I feel like wasn't like that real deep. I feel like to your core to your core to your core >> because you're not immersed. >> because you're not immersed. >> because you're not immersed. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. And it's like, oh, like half my >> Yeah. And it's like, oh, like half my >> Yeah. And it's like, oh, like half my body's in, half out kind of thing. And body's in, half out kind of thing. And body's in, half out kind of thing. And so we were in an apartment and the pool so we were in an apartment and the pool so we were in an apartment and the pool was like right below us. And I was like, was like right below us. And I was like, was like right below us. And I was like, I'm I'm going. And so I would, rain or I'm I'm going. And so I would, rain or I'm I'm going. And so I would, rain or shine, didn't matter. I'd be there at shine, didn't matter. I'd be there at shine, didn't matter. I'd be there at like 5:30 a.m. It didn't matter if like 5:30 a.m. It didn't matter if like 5:30 a.m. It didn't matter if people were going to work. Like, and it
31:00people were going to work. Like, and it people were going to work. Like, and it was the most um impactful part of my was the most um impactful part of my was the most um impactful part of my healing that I was like, healing that I was like, healing that I was like, >> whoa. Which I didn't do it for like like >> whoa. Which I didn't do it for like like >> whoa. Which I didn't do it for like like my intention wasn't like I'm going to do my intention wasn't like I'm going to do my intention wasn't like I'm going to do this to better like my grief. It was this to better like my grief. It was this to better like my grief. It was like, oh, I'm depressed and like this like, oh, I'm depressed and like this like, oh, I'm depressed and like this could help like my nervous system. Like, could help like my nervous system. Like, could help like my nervous system. Like, you know, kind of like trying to trick you know, kind of like trying to trick you know, kind of like trying to trick my brain, especially like you said, like my brain, especially like you said, like my brain, especially like you said, like the fight or flight. And so it's like the fight or flight. And so it's like the fight or flight. And so it's like more of that, but like it provided so more of that, but like it provided so more of that, but like it provided so much more healing in my grief. And I much more healing in my grief. And I much more healing in my grief. And I feel like like you said, like that feel like like you said, like that feel like like you said, like that resilience and my confidence was more resilience and my confidence was more resilience and my confidence was more and like it just it boosted so many and like it just it boosted so many and like it just it boosted so many other things in my life that I was like, other things in my life that I was like, other things in my life that I was like, whoa, this is something. This is whoa, this is something. This is whoa, this is something. This is something. I don't know what it is something. I don't know what it is something. I don't know what it is because I was very new to it. I'm like, because I was very new to it. I'm like, because I was very new to it. I'm like, but it definitely is something. And I but it definitely is something. And I but it definitely is something. And I mean, even talking with you right now, mean, even talking with you right now, mean, even talking with you right now, like it's inspiring me to like get back like it's inspiring me to like get back like it's inspiring me to like get back into that again. I've wanted to, but into that again. I've wanted to, but into that again. I've wanted to, but I've just I've strayed so far from it. I've just I've strayed so far from it. I've just I've strayed so far from it. And now I'm like, "Oh, man. I need to And now I'm like, "Oh, man. I need to And now I'm like, "Oh, man. I need to get back into that because it is it's get back into that because it is it's get back into that because it is it's such an amazing feeling." And like you such an amazing feeling." And like you such an amazing feeling." And like you feel like you're on top of the world feel like you're on top of the world feel like you're on top of the world because 5:30 a.m. I'm coming out of the because 5:30 a.m. I'm coming out of the because 5:30 a.m. I'm coming out of the water and
32:00water and water and >> I can do anything. >> I can do anything. >> I can do anything. >> Yeah. I'm like, "I could I could take on >> Yeah. I'm like, "I could I could take on >> Yeah. I'm like, "I could I could take on the world." It was like nothing was um the world." It was like nothing was um the world." It was like nothing was um was hard at that point because it's like was hard at that point because it's like was hard at that point because it's like right right right >> oh I just sat in there for you know a >> oh I just sat in there for you know a >> oh I just sat in there for you know a minute or two or whatnot and then and it minute or two or whatnot and then and it minute or two or whatnot and then and it would be freezing like it was winter would be freezing like it was winter would be freezing like it was winter like Texas winter December January like Texas winter December January like Texas winter December January beginning of 2021 and it's like you know beginning of 2021 and it's like you know beginning of 2021 and it's like you know the pool isn't even opened because it's the pool isn't even opened because it's the pool isn't even opened because it's so cold you know I'm just so cold you know I'm just so cold you know I'm just >> mossing my way in there. People in >> mossing my way in there. People in >> mossing my way in there. People in Arizona and Florida will contact me and Arizona and Florida will contact me and Arizona and Florida will contact me and I'm gonna use my pool. And I'm like, I'm gonna use my pool. And I'm like, I'm gonna use my pool. And I'm like, well, that's cool until you can't well, that's cool until you can't well, that's cool until you can't anymore because it's way too warm. Yeah. anymore because it's way too warm. Yeah. anymore because it's way too warm. Yeah. >> Yeah. Yeah. >> Yeah. Yeah. >> Yeah. Yeah. >> Yeah. Are you still at the same place? >> Yeah. Are you still at the same place? >> Yeah. Are you still at the same place? >> No. Now we have a house. So, like that's >> No. Now we have a house. So, like that's >> No. Now we have a house. So, like that's what really kind of put a a slow, you what really kind of put a a slow, you what really kind of put a a slow, you know, like I would do the cold showers, know, like I would do the cold showers, know, like I would do the cold showers, but it's still like it perks me up a but it's still like it perks me up a but it's still like it perks me up a little bit, but it's not the same as a little bit, but it's not the same as a little bit, but it's not the same as a plunge. And so I'm like I'm saving for plunge. And so I'm like I'm saving for plunge. And so I'm like I'm saving for one of those like inh home plunging one of those like inh home plunging one of those like inh home plunging things that I can get, but not ones things that I can get, but not ones things that I can get, but not ones where you have to put the ice in where where you have to put the ice in where where you have to put the ice in where it'll actually cool
33:00it'll actually cool it'll actually cool >> to whatever degree you set because I'm >> to whatever degree you set because I'm >> to whatever degree you set because I'm like I'm not my fridge is not going to like I'm not my fridge is not going to like I'm not my fridge is not going to be able to make that much ice. be able to make that much ice. be able to make that much ice. >> Yeah. [laughter] >> Yeah. [laughter] >> Yeah. [laughter] >> To cool this down. >> To cool this down. >> To cool this down. >> So um but yeah, >> So um but yeah, >> So um but yeah, >> I'll send you some options. I'll send >> I'll send you some options. I'll send >> I'll send you some options. I'll send >> Yeah. Oh, that would be great. Yeah, >> Yeah. Oh, that would be great. Yeah, >> Yeah. Oh, that would be great. Yeah, that would be great. Um so what is with that would be great. Um so what is with that would be great. Um so what is with the temperature? the temperature? the temperature? What is your like ideal if somebody What is your like ideal if somebody What is your like ideal if somebody obviously like the ocean or the sea or obviously like the ocean or the sea or obviously like the ocean or the sea or if someone's local like that um you if someone's local like that um you if someone's local like that um you don't really have control don't really have control don't really have control >> for science to have controlled >> for science to have controlled >> for science to have controlled temperature temperature temperature >> 33 to 55 is considered >> 33 to 55 is considered >> 33 to 55 is considered >> anywhere in there is considered cold >> anywhere in there is considered cold >> anywhere in there is considered cold exposure however exposure however exposure however in the summer when we do have 60° and we in the summer when we do have 60° and we in the summer when we do have 60° and we have people come that's cold to them have people come that's cold to them have people come that's cold to them right and any amount of cold is a good right and any amount of cold is a good right and any amount of cold is a good amount of cold that being said if I have amount of cold that being said if I have amount of cold that being said if I have my in a perfect world. I put everyone in my in a perfect world. I put everyone in my in a perfect world. I put everyone in 33 degrees. 33 degrees. 33 degrees. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> When people say start slow or start >> When people say start slow or start >> When people say start slow or start higher, I don't think that's necessary. higher, I don't think that's necessary. higher, I don't think that's necessary. Um Um Um because everyone can do this. Um and
34:00because everyone can do this. Um and because everyone can do this. Um and really, you're going to get the most really, you're going to get the most really, you're going to get the most powerful punch at 33 degrees or sub 40. powerful punch at 33 degrees or sub 40. powerful punch at 33 degrees or sub 40. If you have access to cold water, that's If you have access to cold water, that's If you have access to cold water, that's where I think you should go. Now, if you where I think you should go. Now, if you where I think you should go. Now, if you don't and your bath, if your tap is don't and your bath, if your tap is don't and your bath, if your tap is running 55, running 55, running 55, absolutely go in your tap water. absolutely go in your tap water. absolutely go in your tap water. motivating yourself in your own bathroom motivating yourself in your own bathroom motivating yourself in your own bathroom is challenging. So, I have people that is challenging. So, I have people that is challenging. So, I have people that say, "This is what I have. I will do a I say, "This is what I have. I will do a I say, "This is what I have. I will do a I will walk through um with them on the will walk through um with them on the will walk through um with them on the phone." You know what I mean? phone." You know what I mean? phone." You know what I mean? >> Um I've walked with people in different >> Um I've walked with people in different >> Um I've walked with people in different countries and lots of different states. countries and lots of different states. countries and lots of different states. Um because that's where you just need Um because that's where you just need Um because that's where you just need someone to look in your eyes and walk someone to look in your eyes and walk someone to look in your eyes and walk you through. Um mostly because the you through. Um mostly because the you through. Um mostly because the bathroom's not that, you know, it's bathroom's not that, you know, it's bathroom's not that, you know, it's hard. It's just hard to get yourself hard. It's just hard to get yourself hard. It's just hard to get yourself into the bathtub at home. into the bathtub at home. into the bathtub at home. >> Most of my clients come here because >> Most of my clients come here because >> Most of my clients come here because they're like, I just can't do it they're like, I just can't do it they're like, I just can't do it anywhere else because I just need anywhere else because I just need anywhere else because I just need someone with me because some people is someone with me because some people is someone with me because some people is too hard to do by themselves. But too hard to do by themselves. But too hard to do by themselves. But there's options of freezing water
35:00there's options of freezing water there's options of freezing water bottles because you can refreeze them. bottles because you can refreeze them. bottles because you can refreeze them. Um there's a company that makes really Um there's a company that makes really Um there's a company that makes really big like the size of a shoe box and big like the size of a shoe box and big like the size of a shoe box and they're silicone with a metal bottom so they're silicone with a metal bottom so they're silicone with a metal bottom so you can pop them out. But you have to you can pop them out. But you have to you can pop them out. But you have to let that sit for a long time because let that sit for a long time because let that sit for a long time because >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> As soon as you put the ice in, that >> As soon as you put the ice in, that >> As soon as you put the ice in, that water's not cold. It has to get cold, water's not cold. It has to get cold, water's not cold. It has to get cold, you know. you know. you know. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Um, Rubbermaid makes a 100gon 100gallon >> Um, Rubbermaid makes a 100gon 100gallon >> Um, Rubbermaid makes a 100gon 100gallon stock tank. That's what I started in. stock tank. That's what I started in. stock tank. That's what I started in. That's my go-to. That's what I take when That's my go-to. That's what I take when That's my go-to. That's what I take when I have to be mobile and go to I do I have to be mobile and go to I do I have to be mobile and go to I do events. I do work um like markets and events. I do work um like markets and events. I do work um like markets and stuff. That's what I take. stuff. That's what I take. stuff. That's what I take. >> But for the 100 gallon, that's like 200 >> But for the 100 gallon, that's like 200 >> But for the 100 gallon, that's like 200 to 250 pounds of ice. So to 250 pounds of ice. So to 250 pounds of ice. So >> yeah. >> yeah. >> yeah. >> Um it's a lot of ice. Now, um, delivery >> Um it's a lot of ice. Now, um, delivery >> Um it's a lot of ice. Now, um, delivery services will deliver ice. Like the services will deliver ice. Like the services will deliver ice. Like the grocery places, they don't like it. grocery places, they don't like it. grocery places, they don't like it. [laughter] [laughter] >> They kind of have a look on their face >> They kind of have a look on their face >> They kind of have a look on their face as they're bringing in all those bags of as they're bringing in all those bags of as they're bringing in all those bags of ice. ice. ice. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> But having a bring your own ice party in >> But having a bring your own ice party in >> But having a bring your own ice party in your backyard, if you get one of those your backyard, if you get one of those your backyard, if you get one of those Rubbermaid tanks, invite some friends. Rubbermaid tanks, invite some friends. Rubbermaid tanks, invite some friends. Everyone brings ice. Um, but there's
36:00Everyone brings ice. Um, but there's Everyone brings ice. Um, but there's still there's still dangers. So, still there's still dangers. So, still there's still dangers. So, >> um, >> um, >> um, >> currently you don't have to be certified >> currently you don't have to be certified >> currently you don't have to be certified to help people with ice baths, but it's to help people with ice baths, but it's to help people with ice baths, but it's coming because there are dangers, right? coming because there are dangers, right? coming because there are dangers, right? There's still dangers. Um, and no one There's still dangers. Um, and no one There's still dangers. Um, and no one should ever go into the ice or any cold should ever go into the ice or any cold should ever go into the ice or any cold that doesn't want to. that doesn't want to. that doesn't want to. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Peer pressured or come on, come on. The >> Peer pressured or come on, come on. The >> Peer pressured or come on, come on. The what I point out to people is that it's what I point out to people is that it's what I point out to people is that it's called intentional cold exposure or called intentional cold exposure or called intentional cold exposure or deliberate cold exposure. And that first deliberate cold exposure. And that first deliberate cold exposure. And that first word is the most important word. The word is the most important word. The word is the most important word. The rest is great, you know, but the most rest is great, you know, but the most rest is great, you know, but the most important word is that you have to want important word is that you have to want important word is that you have to want to do this. Um, to do this. Um, to do this. Um, >> yeah. >> yeah. >> And so I will never try to talk someone >> And so I will never try to talk someone >> And so I will never try to talk someone into it. People constantly are asking into it. People constantly are asking into it. People constantly are asking me, you have to talk to my brother, me, you have to talk to my brother, me, you have to talk to my brother, sister, neighbor, husband, you know, I'm sister, neighbor, husband, you know, I'm sister, neighbor, husband, you know, I'm not talking to anybody other than not talking to anybody other than not talking to anybody other than someone that wants to ask me questions. someone that wants to ask me questions. someone that wants to ask me questions. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Um, I'm confident if you come to me, I >> Um, I'm confident if you come to me, I >> Um, I'm confident if you come to me, I can get you in. can get you in. can get you in. >> Yeah. I have zero doubt, but I'm not >> Yeah. I have zero doubt, but I'm not >> Yeah. I have zero doubt, but I'm not going to, you know, do that to someone
37:00going to, you know, do that to someone going to, you know, do that to someone that isn't quite sure. that isn't quite sure. that isn't quite sure. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> My own partner. >> My own partner. >> My own partner. >> Even at home, what would be the risks? >> Even at home, what would be the risks? >> Even at home, what would be the risks? Um like someone that does like a cold Um like someone that does like a cold Um like someone that does like a cold exposure and then they come out because exposure and then they come out because exposure and then they come out because usually it's like after they come out is usually it's like after they come out is usually it's like after they come out is where like the danger can be or the where like the danger can be or the where like the danger can be or the risks can be. What would be that if risks can be. What would be that if risks can be. What would be that if they're like even at home? Is it still they're like even at home? Is it still they're like even at home? Is it still the the the >> So, we have a plunger whose husband was >> So, we have a plunger whose husband was >> So, we have a plunger whose husband was doing cold plunges at home and I don't doing cold plunges at home and I don't doing cold plunges at home and I don't know the temperature, but he got in he know the temperature, but he got in he know the temperature, but he got in he got global transient amnesia. Now, if got global transient amnesia. Now, if got global transient amnesia. Now, if you've never heard of global transient you've never heard of global transient you've never heard of global transient amnesia, you're not going to know what amnesia, you're not going to know what amnesia, you're not going to know what you're looking at. And it happened to you're looking at. And it happened to you're looking at. And it happened to him. She called a person in my group. him. She called a person in my group. him. She called a person in my group. [clears throat] That person in my group [clears throat] That person in my group [clears throat] That person in my group said, "Don't ask me. Ask Renis." So, she said, "Don't ask me. Ask Renis." So, she said, "Don't ask me. Ask Renis." So, she did call me and I was able to tell her, did call me and I was able to tell her, did call me and I was able to tell her, "Oh, this is actually a classic sign, "Oh, this is actually a classic sign, "Oh, this is actually a classic sign, classic case." Um, classic case." Um, classic case." Um, and it's probably not dangerous, but and it's probably not dangerous, but and it's probably not dangerous, but it's super scary because the person, if it's super scary because the person, if it's super scary because the person, if you have it happen, we've only had it you have it happen, we've only had it you have it happen, we've only had it happen once or twice at the beach, and happen once or twice at the beach, and happen once or twice at the beach, and then this person who had nothing to do then this person who had nothing to do then this person who had nothing to do with me, was not affiliated with me. Um,
38:00with me, was not affiliated with me. Um, with me, was not affiliated with me. Um, and that cold water shock, people will and that cold water shock, people will and that cold water shock, people will want to go in and put their face in. want to go in and put their face in. want to go in and put their face in. There is a time and place to put your There is a time and place to put your There is a time and place to put your face in, but it's not when you first get face in, but it's not when you first get face in, but it's not when you first get in the cold water. Um, in the cold water. Um, in the cold water. Um, >> because there is such a thing as cold >> because there is such a thing as cold >> because there is such a thing as cold shock, cold water shock, and people shock, cold water shock, and people shock, cold water shock, and people drown. That's why I will you'll never drown. That's why I will you'll never drown. That's why I will you'll never hear me recommending jumping off of hear me recommending jumping off of hear me recommending jumping off of anything. Um, it doesn't matter how many anything. Um, it doesn't matter how many anything. Um, it doesn't matter how many times you've cold plunged or anything times you've cold plunged or anything times you've cold plunged or anything like that. And granted, that's a fluke like that. And granted, that's a fluke like that. And granted, that's a fluke or that's a freak accident, but it's or that's a freak accident, but it's or that's a freak accident, but it's still something that happens. Um, still something that happens. Um, still something that happens. Um, >> yeah. So this man had that and I was >> yeah. So this man had that and I was >> yeah. So this man had that and I was able to tell her. So she was able to able to tell her. So she was able to able to tell her. So she was able to tell the hospital. Oh, this is, you tell the hospital. Oh, this is, you tell the hospital. Oh, this is, you know, because what it is is you start to know, because what it is is you start to know, because what it is is you start to feel a little feel a little feel a little almost drunk. It's not unpleasant. almost drunk. It's not unpleasant. almost drunk. It's not unpleasant. >> But you don't know what what happened. >> But you don't know what what happened. >> But you don't know what what happened. Why are we here? Why are we here? Why are we here? >> Oh wow. >> Oh wow. >> Oh wow. >> I don't remember. And you will lose a >> I don't remember. And you will lose a >> I don't remember. And you will lose a chunk of time and you will never get it chunk of time and you will never get it chunk of time and you will never get it back. back. back. >> Wow. >> Wow. >> Now you know who you are. you know where
39:00>> Now you know who you are. you know where >> Now you know who you are. you know where you are. Um, but you if it's at the you are. Um, but you if it's at the you are. Um, but you if it's at the beach, you could be like, "When did we beach, you could be like, "When did we beach, you could be like, "When did we come here and why are we here? Why am I come here and why are we here? Why am I come here and why are we here? Why am I wet?" You know, at the beach, this was wet?" You know, at the beach, this was wet?" You know, at the beach, this was at his house and and we don't know what at his house and and we don't know what at his house and and we don't know what causes it. There's absolutely nothing causes it. There's absolutely nothing causes it. There's absolutely nothing that is a predictor. that is a predictor. that is a predictor. >> So, the only reason to know that is just >> So, the only reason to know that is just >> So, the only reason to know that is just to know that it's something and to have to know that it's something and to have to know that it's something and to have him be seen. Um, he had his everything him be seen. Um, he had his everything him be seen. Um, he had his everything came back. I mean, he can't he's normal came back. I mean, he can't he's normal came back. I mean, he can't he's normal and healthy, but that that time frame is and healthy, but that that time frame is and healthy, but that that time frame is completely gone, which is just scary, completely gone, which is just scary, completely gone, which is just scary, right? right? right? >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> There's blood sugar issues that can come >> There's blood sugar issues that can come >> There's blood sugar issues that can come up. Um, if you're completely alone and up. Um, if you're completely alone and up. Um, if you're completely alone and you don't know about that, you don't know about that, you don't know about that, you know, you could have a problem. If you know, you could have a problem. If you know, you could have a problem. If you're not alone, someone's going to you're not alone, someone's going to you're not alone, someone's going to help you. If you're alone and you know, help you. If you're alone and you know, help you. If you're alone and you know, then maybe you're gonna have a then maybe you're gonna have a then maybe you're gonna have a granola bar in your bag or something. granola bar in your bag or something. granola bar in your bag or something. >> Yeah. And I'm not just talking about >> Yeah. And I'm not just talking about >> Yeah. And I'm not just talking about diabetics either, you know. Um, there's diabetics either, you know. Um, there's
40:00diabetics either, you know. Um, there's something called thunder thunderclap something called thunder thunderclap something called thunder thunderclap headaches and they come on just like headaches and they come on just like headaches and they come on just like that and they've happened in my tank and that and they've happened in my tank and that and they've happened in my tank and at the beach and those are super scary at the beach and those are super scary at the beach and those are super scary for the person and the fast they either for the person and the fast they either for the person and the fast they either have to get out of the water have to get out of the water have to get out of the water or or or my training has taught me what to do for my training has taught me what to do for my training has taught me what to do for them. Now, for me to get them to do the them. Now, for me to get them to do the them. Now, for me to get them to do the thing that they need to do, which is to thing that they need to do, which is to thing that they need to do, which is to go underwater because it's the how fast go underwater because it's the how fast go underwater because it's the how fast the blood is shunting. We we can the blood is shunting. We we can the blood is shunting. We we can regulate that by going under, but they regulate that by going under, but they regulate that by going under, but they have to really trust me. have to really trust me. have to really trust me. >> So, I have to be, do you trust me? >> So, I have to be, do you trust me? >> So, I have to be, do you trust me? >> Can you trust me right now and let's do >> Can you trust me right now and let's do >> Can you trust me right now and let's do this or I have to take them out. this or I have to take them out. this or I have to take them out. >> So, they're little things. These aren't >> So, they're little things. These aren't >> So, they're little things. These aren't life or death. I mean, um, life or death. I mean, um, life or death. I mean, um, the only actual, there's more than one, the only actual, there's more than one, the only actual, there's more than one, but the main risk, the only person I but the main risk, the only person I but the main risk, the only person I would say you can't come in the water is would say you can't come in the water is would say you can't come in the water is someone that has late stage heart someone that has late stage heart someone that has late stage heart disease. disease. disease. >> Um, but I've had a man that had open >> Um, but I've had a man that had open >> Um, but I've had a man that had open heart surgery here in my ice bath. And heart surgery here in my ice bath. And heart surgery here in my ice bath. And we have a plunger that's actually on the
41:00we have a plunger that's actually on the we have a plunger that's actually on the waiting list for a heart right now. And waiting list for a heart right now. And waiting list for a heart right now. And he believes that all of his plunging he believes that all of his plunging he believes that all of his plunging kept his heart healthy for much longer kept his heart healthy for much longer kept his heart healthy for much longer than it would have been. Wow. So, than it would have been. Wow. So, than it would have been. Wow. So, >> but your veins and car, you know, all of >> but your veins and car, you know, all of >> but your veins and car, you know, all of your veins and arteries, capillaries are your veins and arteries, capillaries are your veins and arteries, capillaries are vasoc constricting and dilating like vasoc constricting and dilating like vasoc constricting and dilating like crazy for a cold plunge. crazy for a cold plunge. crazy for a cold plunge. >> So, your cardiovascular system is >> So, your cardiovascular system is >> So, your cardiovascular system is getting a workout getting a workout getting a workout every time you coal plunge, every time you coal plunge, every time you coal plunge, >> right? So, it's a heart workout. So, >> right? So, it's a heart workout. So, >> right? So, it's a heart workout. So, it's good for your heart. [laughter] it's good for your heart. [laughter] it's good for your heart. [laughter] [gasps] [gasps] [gasps] >> You're not gonna You shouldn't be having >> You're not gonna You shouldn't be having >> You're not gonna You shouldn't be having a heart attack. I've never heard of a heart attack. I've never heard of a heart attack. I've never heard of anyone having a heart attack. anyone having a heart attack. anyone having a heart attack. >> Yeah. And there's always, you know, the >> Yeah. And there's always, you know, the >> Yeah. And there's always, you know, the fluke or the, you know, freak cases, the fluke or the, you know, freak cases, the fluke or the, you know, freak cases, the out of nowhere cases. out of nowhere cases. out of nowhere cases. >> Yeah. So, how do you talk like when you >> Yeah. So, how do you talk like when you >> Yeah. So, how do you talk like when you have someone at your business like doing have someone at your business like doing have someone at your business like doing the cold plunge, like how do you walk the cold plunge, like how do you walk the cold plunge, like how do you walk them through? Are you just like more them through? Are you just like more them through? Are you just like more encouraging them or what does that look encouraging them or what does that look encouraging them or what does that look like? like? like? >> So, I have the talk that I give that's >> So, I have the talk that I give that's >> So, I have the talk that I give that's the the like safety talk. the the like safety talk. the the like safety talk. >> Is that what you're talking about? I
42:00>> Is that what you're talking about? I >> Is that what you're talking about? I don't know what you're talking about at don't know what you're talking about at don't know what you're talking about at the right at the side the right at the side the right at the side >> like when they're getting into the ice >> like when they're getting into the ice >> like when they're getting into the ice and they're like, you know, cuz I know and they're like, you know, cuz I know and they're like, you know, cuz I know you do the breathing, the breath work you do the breathing, the breath work you do the breathing, the breath work with them, right? with them, right? with them, right? >> So, I do breath work first and then we >> So, I do breath work first and then we >> So, I do breath work first and then we stand at the side of the tank and I stand at the side of the tank and I stand at the side of the tank and I usually say, "Don't put don't put your usually say, "Don't put don't put your usually say, "Don't put don't put your hands in because they you everyone's hands in because they you everyone's hands in because they you everyone's like a child and they want to put their like a child and they want to put their like a child and they want to put their hands in. My ice bath is full of ice and hands in. My ice bath is full of ice and hands in. My ice bath is full of ice and chunks of ice, not ice cubes, but it it chunks of ice, not ice cubes, but it it chunks of ice, not ice cubes, but it it comes up in a sheet comes up in a sheet comes up in a sheet >> and I have to use a mace bell to break >> and I have to use a mace bell to break >> and I have to use a mace bell to break it. So these are large pieces of ice and it. So these are large pieces of ice and it. So these are large pieces of ice and you naturally well your fingers are the you naturally well your fingers are the you naturally well your fingers are the furthest from your heart, smallest furthest from your heart, smallest furthest from your heart, smallest capillaries and the most nerve endings capillaries and the most nerve endings capillaries and the most nerve endings and it can hurt on your hands like like and it can hurt on your hands like like and it can hurt on your hands like like if you ever put your hand in a cold if you ever put your hand in a cold if you ever put your hand in a cold cooler when you're camping and you want cooler when you're camping and you want cooler when you're camping and you want that water out you're like but it hurts. that water out you're like but it hurts. that water out you're like but it hurts. >> That's the most pain you're going to get >> That's the most pain you're going to get >> That's the most pain you're going to get is in your hands. It's not shouldn't is in your hands. It's not shouldn't is in your hands. It's not shouldn't hurt anywhere else. Maybe just have hurt anywhere else. Maybe just have hurt anywhere else. Maybe just have discomfort and no one I don't even make discomfort and no one I don't even make discomfort and no one I don't even make everyone put their hands in the water everyone put their hands in the water everyone put their hands in the water during the ice bath. They can keep their during the ice bath. They can keep their during the ice bath. They can keep their hands out. Um, hands out. Um, hands out. Um, >> and so I have to say, please don't put
43:00>> and so I have to say, please don't put >> and so I have to say, please don't put your hand in there. And some people, so your hand in there. And some people, so your hand in there. And some people, so there's an emotional component to ice there's an emotional component to ice there's an emotional component to ice baths, especially ice baths here, or baths, especially ice baths here, or baths, especially ice baths here, or small groups at the beach. Big groups small groups at the beach. Big groups small groups at the beach. Big groups doesn't seem to happen. I think that's a doesn't seem to happen. I think that's a doesn't seem to happen. I think that's a social constraint issue. But social constraint issue. But social constraint issue. But either knowing you're going to do it or either knowing you're going to do it or either knowing you're going to do it or just looking at the ice, people start to just looking at the ice, people start to just looking at the ice, people start to cry. About 45% of people just start to cry. About 45% of people just start to cry. About 45% of people just start to cry. And it's like an emotional release cry. And it's like an emotional release cry. And it's like an emotional release like I'm going to do this hard thing. like I'm going to do this hard thing. like I'm going to do this hard thing. And you can't hang on to something. And you can't hang on to something. And you can't hang on to something. Whatever you're holding on to, it's hard Whatever you're holding on to, it's hard Whatever you're holding on to, it's hard to hold on to it and do that. So one of to hold on to it and do that. So one of to hold on to it and do that. So one of them's got to give and they start to cry them's got to give and they start to cry them's got to give and they start to cry or as soon as they get in they start to or as soon as they get in they start to or as soon as they get in they start to cry. And I just let them know this the cry. And I just let them know this the cry. And I just let them know this the water can take it and you can leave it water can take it and you can leave it water can take it and you can leave it there. there. there. >> You know it can take it. And the sea >> You know it can take it. And the sea >> You know it can take it. And the sea amazing. I'm like look how big the sea amazing. I'm like look how big the sea amazing. I'm like look how big the sea is. It can totally take your problems is. It can totally take your problems is. It can totally take your problems and you can leave them here at least for and you can leave them here at least for and you can leave them here at least for today. Right? So I get very I get pretty today. Right? So I get very I get pretty today. Right? So I get very I get pretty close to them. I ask them to look in my close to them. I ask them to look in my close to them. I ask them to look in my eyes. I go through a little bit of a eyes. I go through a little bit of a eyes. I go through a little bit of a scan. I You can't have them standing scan. I You can't have them standing scan. I You can't have them standing there too long, right? Because they're there too long, right? Because they're there too long, right? Because they're talk themselves out of things. So, I try talk themselves out of things. So, I try talk themselves out of things. So, I try to get them to not think. We do three
44:00to get them to not think. We do three to get them to not think. We do three breaths, three specific breaths right breaths, three specific breaths right breaths, three specific breaths right there at the water. And then I go there at the water. And then I go there at the water. And then I go through a What What's interesting about through a What What's interesting about through a What What's interesting about human nature is if you tell people what human nature is if you tell people what human nature is if you tell people what to do, they do it. If you invite them, to do, they do it. If you invite them, to do, they do it. If you invite them, would you like to get in now? They might would you like to get in now? They might would you like to get in now? They might say no. say no. say no. >> [laughter] >> [laughter] >> [laughter] >> So I don't >> So I don't >> So I don't >> give them the option. Yeah. >> give them the option. Yeah. >> give them the option. Yeah. >> I don't give them any options. I don't >> I don't give them any options. I don't >> I don't give them any options. I don't they've already given they've given me they've already given they've given me they've already given they've given me money, right? And they've come here and money, right? And they've come here and money, right? And they've come here and they've done all this work. So as after they've done all this work. So as after they've done all this work. So as after I've done the breath, I tell them um I've done the breath, I tell them um I've done the breath, I tell them um okay now when I ask you to get into the okay now when I ask you to get into the okay now when I ask you to get into the tank and I'm looking at them, right? tank and I'm looking at them, right? tank and I'm looking at them, right? We're really close to each other. I want We're really close to each other. I want We're really close to each other. I want you to do so calmly and carefully. I you to do so calmly and carefully. I you to do so calmly and carefully. I want you to sit down without hesitation. want you to sit down without hesitation. want you to sit down without hesitation. Let the water rush over your body, over Let the water rush over your body, over Let the water rush over your body, over your shoulders, up to your neck. your shoulders, up to your neck. your shoulders, up to your neck. and I want you to breathe. and I want you to breathe. and I want you to breathe. All you have to do is breathe. All you have to do is breathe. All you have to do is breathe. They say, "Okay." And I say, "Step into They say, "Okay." And I say, "Step into They say, "Okay." And I say, "Step into the tank." And they just step into the
45:00the tank." And they just step into the the tank." And they just step into the tank. They literally just step into the tank. They literally just step into the tank. They literally just step into the tank. There's been a handful of people tank. There's been a handful of people tank. There's been a handful of people that kind of, you know, stop and start, that kind of, you know, stop and start, that kind of, you know, stop and start, but they literally just step into It's a but they literally just step into It's a but they literally just step into It's a weird kind of um It's a It's a testament weird kind of um It's a It's a testament weird kind of um It's a It's a testament to human spirit that we to human spirit that we to human spirit that we trust people. Yeah. trust people. Yeah. trust people. Yeah. >> I mean, it's amazing to me day after day >> I mean, it's amazing to me day after day >> I mean, it's amazing to me day after day that strangers come and and uh you know, that strangers come and and uh you know, that strangers come and and uh you know, trust me. trust me. trust me. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> I mean, I take it very seriously. I >> I mean, I take it very seriously. I >> I mean, I take it very seriously. I mean, I take it very seriously. mean, I take it very seriously. mean, I take it very seriously. >> And people that come here before doing >> And people that come here before doing >> And people that come here before doing an ice b a cold plunge anywhere else, an ice b a cold plunge anywhere else, an ice b a cold plunge anywhere else, that's a whole level of bravery because that's a whole level of bravery because that's a whole level of bravery because I didn't start here, you know? I didn't start here, you know? I didn't start here, you know? >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> I started at 50 degrees and they're >> I started at 50 degrees and they're >> I started at 50 degrees and they're starting at 33 degrees. starting at 33 degrees. starting at 33 degrees. >> Um [snorts] >> Um [snorts] >> Um [snorts] Yeah. I'm always like, you got you're Yeah. I'm always like, you got you're Yeah. I'm always like, you got you're badass. [laughter] badass. [laughter] badass. [laughter] >> Um, and people are just very >> Um, and people are just very >> Um, and people are just very people that are hurting, right? They people that are hurting, right? They people that are hurting, right? They want to be out of that. want to be out of that. want to be out of that. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. But I see the look here more than the
46:00But I see the look here more than the But I see the look here more than the beach of I I can I don't need my car. I beach of I I can I don't need my car. I beach of I I can I don't need my car. I can just run home. I'm not a runner. can just run home. I'm not a runner. can just run home. I'm not a runner. [laughter] I feel like I can I feel like I can >> Yeah. >> Yeah. So So So >> you're like, "No, go back to your car." >> you're like, "No, go back to your car." >> you're like, "No, go back to your car." [laughter] [laughter] >> Exactly. And then they'll be like at the >> Exactly. And then they'll be like at the >> Exactly. And then they'll be like at the stop sign, I'll get weird texts like, stop sign, I'll get weird texts like, stop sign, I'll get weird texts like, "Is it weird that I feel like I want to "Is it weird that I feel like I want to "Is it weird that I feel like I want to come back and get in again?" Nope. It's come back and get in again?" Nope. It's come back and get in again?" Nope. It's normal. Or a couple days later, I have a normal. Or a couple days later, I have a normal. Or a couple days later, I have a feeling like I didn't even like it feeling like I didn't even like it feeling like I didn't even like it because most people don't like it. because most people don't like it. because most people don't like it. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Most people it takes three to five >> Most people it takes three to five >> Most people it takes three to five before they before they before they really like it. Um but everyone feels really like it. Um but everyone feels really like it. Um but everyone feels good after, you know, when they get out good after, you know, when they get out good after, you know, when they get out they feel good. Um, I had this weird they feel good. Um, I had this weird they feel good. Um, I had this weird feeling like I want to do it again and I feeling like I want to do it again and I feeling like I want to do it again and I hated it or something. hated it or something. hated it or something. >> So, is there um is there risks for >> So, is there um is there risks for >> So, is there um is there risks for staying in there too long? Because I staying in there too long? Because I staying in there too long? Because I know you said like two to three minutes know you said like two to three minutes know you said like two to three minutes is kind of ideal. is kind of ideal. is kind of ideal. >> So, two to three minutes is all you need >> So, two to three minutes is all you need >> So, two to three minutes is all you need for the health benefits. Um, everyone
47:00for the health benefits. Um, everyone for the health benefits. Um, everyone has their own. It's a time when so most has their own. It's a time when so most has their own. It's a time when so most of us don't know how we don't know how of us don't know how we don't know how of us don't know how we don't know how to listen to our body, right? Like we to listen to our body, right? Like we to listen to our body, right? Like we keep our lives so temperature keep our lives so temperature keep our lives so temperature controlled. Women especially, I don't controlled. Women especially, I don't controlled. Women especially, I don't know about men, but we don't even go to know about men, but we don't even go to know about men, but we don't even go to the restroom. We need to, right? We like the restroom. We need to, right? We like the restroom. We need to, right? We like get busy and then we're like wait until get busy and then we're like wait until get busy and then we're like wait until we have a cram and they're like, "Oh my we have a cram and they're like, "Oh my we have a cram and they're like, "Oh my gosh, I guess I should go to the gosh, I guess I should go to the gosh, I guess I should go to the bathroom." So, I try to teach people to bathroom." So, I try to teach people to bathroom." So, I try to teach people to listen to their body. listen to their body. listen to their body. So, you need to get out when your body So, you need to get out when your body So, you need to get out when your body tells you to get out. That's so tells you to get out. That's so tells you to get out. That's so confusing. So, if you start to shiver, confusing. So, if you start to shiver, confusing. So, if you start to shiver, it's time to get out. Now, if it's in it's time to get out. Now, if it's in it's time to get out. Now, if it's in that first minute, that's not true. that first minute, that's not true. that first minute, that's not true. That's just like your brain working with That's just like your brain working with That's just like your brain working with you. Yeah. But um most people with honor you. Yeah. But um most people with honor you. Yeah. But um most people with honor with a regular pad with a a practice with a regular pad with a a practice with a regular pad with a a practice and at our beach we have people that are and at our beach we have people that are and at our beach we have people that are from five up to 20 minutes. Now they from five up to 20 minutes. Now they from five up to 20 minutes. Now they have a regular practice. They listen to have a regular practice. They listen to have a regular practice. They listen to their body. They I trust them to do their body. They I trust them to do their body. They I trust them to do their own thing. New people at the beach their own thing. New people at the beach their own thing. New people at the beach I say four to five minutes I'm going to I say four to five minutes I'm going to I say four to five minutes I'm going to ask you to get out. Now I'm going to be ask you to get out. Now I'm going to be ask you to get out. Now I'm going to be watching you. I'm going to watch. If watching you. I'm going to watch. If watching you. I'm going to watch. If you're shivering I'm going to ask you to
48:00you're shivering I'm going to ask you to you're shivering I'm going to ask you to get out. If if I think you should get get out. If if I think you should get get out. If if I think you should get out I'm just going to ask you to get out I'm just going to ask you to get out I'm just going to ask you to get out. Um, I'm bossy in that way just out. Um, I'm bossy in that way just out. Um, I'm bossy in that way just because I've seen enough people and I because I've seen enough people and I because I've seen enough people and I don't there's something called afterdrop don't there's something called afterdrop don't there's something called afterdrop which is not dangerous. Um, but it's which is not dangerous. Um, but it's which is not dangerous. Um, but it's also kind of scary and and it's also kind of scary and and it's also kind of scary and and it's unpleasant and if you get after drop on unpleasant and if you get after drop on unpleasant and if you get after drop on your probably everyone gets it your probably everyone gets it your probably everyone gets it eventually. [snorts] Um, because you get eventually. [snorts] Um, because you get eventually. [snorts] Um, because you get to talking in the water when there's a to talking in the water when there's a to talking in the water when there's a community and you don't want to get out. community and you don't want to get out. community and you don't want to get out. It feels good. Well, the better it It feels good. Well, the better it It feels good. Well, the better it starts to get, the the more dangerous it starts to get, the the more dangerous it starts to get, the the more dangerous it is because when you get hypothermic, is because when you get hypothermic, is because when you get hypothermic, >> you start to get elated. >> you start to get elated. >> you start to get elated. >> If you start to giggle and go super, I >> If you start to giggle and go super, I >> If you start to giggle and go super, I don't feel anything, then I'm like, you don't feel anything, then I'm like, you don't feel anything, then I'm like, you have to get out now. I have to get out now. I have to get out now. I >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Uh we have friends that in the first >> Uh we have friends that in the first >> Uh we have friends that in the first month, so I was not a guide yet, they month, so I was not a guide yet, they month, so I was not a guide yet, they came to join us and they didn't want to came to join us and they didn't want to came to join us and they didn't want to get out and they heard that your get out and they heard that your get out and they heard that your metabolism [clears throat] is boosted metabolism [clears throat] is boosted metabolism [clears throat] is boosted like 300 times. I said, I read that, like 300 times. I said, I read that, like 300 times. I said, I read that, too. And they're like, "We want to stay too. And they're like, "We want to stay too. And they're like, "We want to stay in." I got out, changed. I was still
49:00in." I got out, changed. I was still in." I got out, changed. I was still dressed. They stayed in 40 minutes. dressed. They stayed in 40 minutes. dressed. They stayed in 40 minutes. Whoa. Whoa. Whoa. >> I let them. Not that I have control over >> I let them. Not that I have control over >> I let them. Not that I have control over anyone, but I stood there waiting anyone, but I stood there waiting anyone, but I stood there waiting >> and I was worried. When they got out, >> and I was worried. When they got out, >> and I was worried. When they got out, the husband couldn't drive. The wife the husband couldn't drive. The wife the husband couldn't drive. The wife could barely drive. They were laughing could barely drive. They were laughing could barely drive. They were laughing in between, having fits of shaking. Was in between, having fits of shaking. Was in between, having fits of shaking. Was so scary. so scary. so scary. >> Um, they were definitely prehypothermic. >> Um, they were definitely prehypothermic. >> Um, they were definitely prehypothermic. Um, so I learned something that day. Um, so I learned something that day. Um, so I learned something that day. Yeah. Yeah. >> Yeah. But mostly I say listen to your >> Yeah. But mostly I say listen to your >> Yeah. But mostly I say listen to your body or in if you're new and you don't body or in if you're new and you don't body or in if you're new and you don't know how then you just need because know how then you just need because know how then you just need because every time's different. Did you sleep every time's different. Did you sleep every time's different. Did you sleep well last night? Did you have a few well last night? Did you have a few well last night? Did you have a few drinks? Are you going to fight with your drinks? Are you going to fight with your drinks? Are you going to fight with your partner that you came to the beach with partner that you came to the beach with partner that you came to the beach with and you've been glaring at them this and you've been glaring at them this and you've been glaring at them this whole morning? You know, there's so many whole morning? You know, there's so many whole morning? You know, there's so many factors that go into it. So, it's a factors that go into it. So, it's a factors that go into it. So, it's a beautiful opportunity because we're in beautiful opportunity because we're in beautiful opportunity because we're in nature, right? You're getting trace nature, right? You're getting trace nature, right? You're getting trace minerals from the water. You're getting minerals from the water. You're getting minerals from the water. You're getting sunrise. Um it's gorgeous there. You're sunrise. Um it's gorgeous there. You're sunrise. Um it's gorgeous there. You're with your friends. Just pay attention. with your friends. Just pay attention. with your friends. Just pay attention. >> If you get this hesitation that says, "I >> If you get this hesitation that says, "I >> If you get this hesitation that says, "I think I should get out."
50:00think I should get out." think I should get out." >> You should probably get out. >> You should probably get out. >> You should probably get out. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> But new people, I tell them four to five >> But new people, I tell them four to five >> But new people, I tell them four to five minutes is the top. After that, you're minutes is the top. After that, you're minutes is the top. After that, you're going to start to learn um in an ice going to start to learn um in an ice going to start to learn um in an ice bath in the house. I have a client that bath in the house. I have a client that bath in the house. I have a client that stays nine minutes. stays nine minutes. stays nine minutes. >> Wow. >> Wow. >> I don't stay nine minutes. She has she >> I don't stay nine minutes. She has she >> I don't stay nine minutes. She has she she can stay nine minutes. Um not much she can stay nine minutes. Um not much she can stay nine minutes. Um not much longer. Would she want to? Maybe. I'm longer. Would she want to? Maybe. I'm longer. Would she want to? Maybe. I'm not. you have a liquid in your cells. not. you have a liquid in your cells. not. you have a liquid in your cells. So, if you're in that water cold enough So, if you're in that water cold enough So, if you're in that water cold enough to freeze ice, to freeze ice, to freeze ice, you know, probably not a good idea to you know, probably not a good idea to you know, probably not a good idea to stay in there very long [laughter] stay in there very long [laughter] stay in there very long [laughter] in the sand. People stay 25, 30 minutes. in the sand. People stay 25, 30 minutes. in the sand. People stay 25, 30 minutes. At that temperature, it's probably not At that temperature, it's probably not At that temperature, it's probably not dangerous. I would be wrecked that long. dangerous. I would be wrecked that long. dangerous. I would be wrecked that long. Yeah. Yeah. >> My my sweet spot is 9 to 12 minutes. In >> My my sweet spot is 9 to 12 minutes. In >> My my sweet spot is 9 to 12 minutes. In the summer, it gets a little longer. Um, the summer, it gets a little longer. Um, the summer, it gets a little longer. Um, you want to kind of get all your money's you want to kind of get all your money's you want to kind of get all your money's worth when you drive there and you're, worth when you drive there and you're, worth when you drive there and you're, you know, getting sandy and dirty and you know, getting sandy and dirty and you know, getting sandy and dirty and wet. Yeah. So, um, nobody stays to a wet. Yeah. So, um, nobody stays to a wet. Yeah. So, um, nobody stays to a level that's dangerous.
51:00level that's dangerous. level that's dangerous. >> Yeah, that's a good way of look think looking that's a good way of look think looking at it is what's going to be, you know, at it is what's going to be, you know, at it is what's going to be, you know, per per each person is, you know, per per each person is, you know, per per each person is, you know, recognized. There's a point of no recognized. There's a point of no recognized. There's a point of no return. There's a diminish point of return. There's a diminish point of return. There's a diminish point of diminishing returns, right? diminishing returns, right? diminishing returns, right? >> Longer is not better with cold plunging. >> Longer is not better with cold plunging. >> Longer is not better with cold plunging. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> It's absolutely not better. So, and and >> It's absolutely not better. So, and and >> It's absolutely not better. So, and and after if you stay the right amount of after if you stay the right amount of after if you stay the right amount of time, you're going to have good clean time, you're going to have good clean time, you're going to have good clean energy all day. energy all day. energy all day. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> If you stay too long, you need a couch >> If you stay too long, you need a couch >> If you stay too long, you need a couch day because that thermogenesis that day because that thermogenesis that day because that thermogenesis that kicks on is what is helping you with kicks on is what is helping you with kicks on is what is helping you with this great mood. If it's too much, you this great mood. If it's too much, you this great mood. If it's too much, you got you've got your core started to get got you've got your core started to get got you've got your core started to get cold. Now the thermogenesis is working cold. Now the thermogenesis is working cold. Now the thermogenesis is working like a you turned up the furnace and like a you turned up the furnace and like a you turned up the furnace and it's it's trying so so hard and it's it's it's trying so so hard and it's it's it's trying so so hard and it's it's struggling because you got too it's struggling because you got too it's struggling because you got too cold. Now you need a couch, a blanket on cold. Now you need a couch, a blanket on cold. Now you need a couch, a blanket on the couch and a TV show and you're going the couch and a TV show and you're going the couch and a TV show and you're going to be shivering all day. And people to be shivering all day. And people to be shivering all day. And people think taking a hot shower is going to
52:00think taking a hot shower is going to think taking a hot shower is going to work. It's not going to work. A hot work. It's not going to work. A hot work. It's not going to work. A hot shower is just heating the skin up. shower is just heating the skin up. shower is just heating the skin up. it's not doing anything to what you've it's not doing anything to what you've it's not doing anything to what you've done with the mingling of the cold done with the mingling of the cold done with the mingling of the cold blood, you know, in your body. And um so blood, you know, in your body. And um so blood, you know, in your body. And um so even taking going home and taking a hot even taking going home and taking a hot even taking going home and taking a hot shower is not the same as being immersed shower is not the same as being immersed shower is not the same as being immersed the same as being the same as being the same as being >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Like I contrast therapy, which is sauna, >> Like I contrast therapy, which is sauna, >> Like I contrast therapy, which is sauna, ice bath, sauna, ice bath, sun, ice ice bath, sauna, ice bath, sun, ice ice bath, sauna, ice bath, sun, ice bath, always end on cold. My first time bath, always end on cold. My first time bath, always end on cold. My first time in the sauna, I'm sweating 10 to 15 in the sauna, I'm sweating 10 to 15 in the sauna, I'm sweating 10 to 15 minutes in. After an ice bath of three minutes in. After an ice bath of three minutes in. After an ice bath of three minutes, I don't sweat again. I mean, minutes, I don't sweat again. I mean, minutes, I don't sweat again. I mean, I'm in that sauna. I stay in that sauna. I'm in that sauna. I stay in that sauna. I'm in that sauna. I stay in that sauna. And I've only been three minutes in the And I've only been three minutes in the And I've only been three minutes in the cold. I get back in the sauna. And at my cold. I get back in the sauna. And at my cold. I get back in the sauna. And at my home sauna, 147, I don't get back to home sauna, 147, I don't get back to home sauna, 147, I don't get back to sweating. I have to go to sweating. I have to go to sweating. I have to go to >> I'm That's how I'm already that cold. >> I'm That's how I'm already that cold. >> I'm That's how I'm already that cold. >> Oh, wow. >> Oh, wow. >> Oh, wow. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Wow. >> Wow. So, if I went to the beach and stayed 20 So, if I went to the beach and stayed 20 So, if I went to the beach and stayed 20 minutes in and got in the sauna, I don't
53:00minutes in and got in the sauna, I don't minutes in and got in the sauna, I don't even know if I'd get warm. [laughter] even know if I'd get warm. [laughter] even know if I'd get warm. [laughter] Now, we put maybe a fire a hotter sauna Now, we put maybe a fire a hotter sauna Now, we put maybe a fire a hotter sauna because I have infrared in the house. because I have infrared in the house. because I have infrared in the house. When I there's a facility I go to where When I there's a facility I go to where When I there's a facility I go to where they have almost 200 degree degrees they have almost 200 degree degrees they have almost 200 degree degrees saunas. I will get warmer when I do saunas. I will get warmer when I do saunas. I will get warmer when I do that. that. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> But, you know, you you definitely being >> But, you know, you you definitely being >> But, you know, you you definitely being immersed in cold um really does it's immersed in cold um really does it's immersed in cold um really does it's fast. fast. fast. >> It works really fast. Yeah. >> It works really fast. Yeah. >> It works really fast. Yeah. >> Wow. That's interesting. And so does the >> Wow. That's interesting. And so does the >> Wow. That's interesting. And so does the sauna do the same thing? Like is it sauna do the same thing? Like is it sauna do the same thing? Like is it supposed to be like that fast of kind of supposed to be like that fast of kind of supposed to be like that fast of kind of heating you up or even No. Okay. heating you up or even No. Okay. heating you up or even No. Okay. >> No, it's not as fast. Just like the sun >> No, it's not as fast. Just like the sun >> No, it's not as fast. Just like the sun like you can go when you get out of a like you can go when you get out of a like you can go when you get out of a ice bath and you move your swimming ice bath and you move your swimming ice bath and you move your swimming suit, you will see red skin and white suit, you will see red skin and white suit, you will see red skin and white skin skin skin >> just like a sunburn. >> just like a sunburn. >> just like a sunburn. >> And that happens immediately. >> And that happens immediately. >> And that happens immediately. >> Like immediately. Well, the sun takes >> Like immediately. Well, the sun takes >> Like immediately. Well, the sun takes >> what even in the hottest day it would >> what even in the hottest day it would >> what even in the hottest day it would take 10 minutes to do that. I said that take 10 minutes to do that. I said that take 10 minutes to do that. I said that >> your >> your >> your cold react immediately. You would die cold react immediately. You would die cold react immediately. You would die faster in a frozen
54:00faster in a frozen faster in a frozen water than in a blistering sun. water than in a blistering sun. water than in a blistering sun. >> Wow. >> Wow. It's just depressing thought. Yeah. It's just depressing thought. Yeah. It's just depressing thought. Yeah. >> Yeah. But like how how uh quick it can >> Yeah. But like how how uh quick it can >> Yeah. But like how how uh quick it can happen too with with just cold water. happen too with with just cold water. happen too with with just cold water. But also like I mean during the few But also like I mean during the few But also like I mean during the few minutes it's how beneficial minutes it's how beneficial minutes it's how beneficial [clears throat] [clears throat] [clears throat] >> water, you know, water. I love water. >> water, you know, water. I love water. >> water, you know, water. I love water. Water is life, right? And also water is Water is life, right? And also water is Water is life, right? And also water is involved in involved in involved in >> like I believe almost every natural >> like I believe almost every natural >> like I believe almost every natural disaster. disaster. disaster. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Water's powerful. >> Water's powerful. >> Water's powerful. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> So, we don't want to be mindful of that >> So, we don't want to be mindful of that >> So, we don't want to be mindful of that when we're in nature especially. when we're in nature especially. when we're in nature especially. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Oh, yeah. I'm like water I don't mess >> Oh, yeah. I'm like water I don't mess >> Oh, yeah. I'm like water I don't mess with. with. with. >> It will, you know, it could do all sorts >> It will, you know, it could do all sorts >> It will, you know, it could do all sorts of things without me doing anything to of things without me doing anything to of things without me doing anything to it, you know. it, you know. it, you know. >> Absolutely. >> Absolutely. >> Absolutely. >> Absolutely. So, I know we kind of >> Absolutely. So, I know we kind of >> Absolutely. So, I know we kind of touched on um the the benefits of cold touched on um the the benefits of cold touched on um the the benefits of cold water therapy. Can you dive more into water therapy. Can you dive more into water therapy. Can you dive more into that? Like why you know say like an that? Like why you know say like an that? Like why you know say like an average person like me like what would
55:00average person like me like what would average person like me like what would be the benefits of me cold plunging even be the benefits of me cold plunging even be the benefits of me cold plunging even for just two three minutes? for just two three minutes? for just two three minutes? >> So for your average person um usually >> So for your average person um usually >> So for your average person um usually they come they hear so inflammation is they come they hear so inflammation is they come they hear so inflammation is gone. Um, my example I give is if you gone. Um, my example I give is if you gone. Um, my example I give is if you ever go outside in the winter and your ever go outside in the winter and your ever go outside in the winter and your rings suddenly feel like they're going rings suddenly feel like they're going rings suddenly feel like they're going to fall off your fingers, that's to fall off your fingers, that's to fall off your fingers, that's inflammation's going down. That's what inflammation's going down. That's what inflammation's going down. That's what happens in the ice, but for your whole happens in the ice, but for your whole happens in the ice, but for your whole body. body. body. >> So, that even includes inflammation in >> So, that even includes inflammation in >> So, that even includes inflammation in your head and your brain. So, your head and your brain. So, your head and your brain. So, >> um, that's one thing. Also, deep sleep >> um, that's one thing. Also, deep sleep >> um, that's one thing. Also, deep sleep is much better. Like, you get such good is much better. Like, you get such good is much better. Like, you get such good sleep. My sleep is just I've never slept sleep. My sleep is just I've never slept sleep. My sleep is just I've never slept this well. Of course, I used to take a this well. Of course, I used to take a this well. Of course, I used to take a lot of medications and drink just to get lot of medications and drink just to get lot of medications and drink just to get sleep. many years. I had a cocktail that sleep. many years. I had a cocktail that sleep. many years. I had a cocktail that should have killed me and swallowed it should have killed me and swallowed it should have killed me and swallowed it with vodka. So, I'm sober now, but or with vodka. So, I'm sober now, but or with vodka. So, I'm sober now, but or else I wouldn't be telling you that. else I wouldn't be telling you that. else I wouldn't be telling you that. [laughter] [laughter] [gasps] [gasps] >> It was pretty terrible, right? And the >> It was pretty terrible, right? And the >> It was pretty terrible, right? And the doctors, you go in and say, "I'm a doctors, you go in and say, "I'm a doctors, you go in and say, "I'm a grieving widow. They give you almost at grieving widow. They give you almost at grieving widow. They give you almost at least they used to give you what you least they used to give you what you least they used to give you what you wanted basically." wanted basically." wanted basically." >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> I would say, "I heard about this thing >> I would say, "I heard about this thing >> I would say, "I heard about this thing called Xanax. Can I have some?" I mean,
56:00called Xanax. Can I have some?" I mean, called Xanax. Can I have some?" I mean, literally, that's how it used to do, how literally, that's how it used to do, how literally, that's how it used to do, how it used to be. it used to be. it used to be. um sleep, um any sorts of aches and um sleep, um any sorts of aches and um sleep, um any sorts of aches and pains. Anything that ends in itis is pains. Anything that ends in itis is pains. Anything that ends in itis is inflammation. And so pretty much you inflammation. And so pretty much you inflammation. And so pretty much you don't get past 25 or 30 without having don't get past 25 or 30 without having don't get past 25 or 30 without having some sort of aches and pains. Most any some sort of aches and pains. Most any some sort of aches and pains. Most any pain can be relieved with the cold pain can be relieved with the cold pain can be relieved with the cold plunge. A lot of people that come have plunge. A lot of people that come have plunge. A lot of people that come have some kind of a pain that's a sometimes some kind of a pain that's a sometimes some kind of a pain that's a sometimes pain and they can get relief once or pain and they can get relief once or pain and they can get relief once or twice a week. um the sleep, the energy twice a week. um the sleep, the energy twice a week. um the sleep, the energy energy. Um also diabetics, it lowers energy. Um also diabetics, it lowers energy. Um also diabetics, it lowers blood sugar. If you're eating blood sugar. If you're eating blood sugar. If you're eating ketogenically, it gets you deeper into ketogenically, it gets you deeper into ketogenically, it gets you deeper into ketosis. ketosis. ketosis. >> The community aspect of it, there's >> The community aspect of it, there's >> The community aspect of it, there's friendships to be made. It's a thing to friendships to be made. It's a thing to friendships to be made. It's a thing to do that's free. And um do that's free. And um do that's free. And um it gets you out, you know, meet new it gets you out, you know, meet new it gets you out, you know, meet new people. people. people. >> Hormonal your hormones balance. So, a >> Hormonal your hormones balance. So, a >> Hormonal your hormones balance. So, a lot of new moms come after they have a lot of new moms come after they have a lot of new moms come after they have a baby because they they're all over the
57:00baby because they they're all over the baby because they they're all over the place. It's amazing for women um who are place. It's amazing for women um who are place. It's amazing for women um who are parmenopausal or menopausal. I was parmenopausal or menopausal. I was parmenopausal or menopausal. I was menopause. I was having hot flashes and menopause. I was having hot flashes and menopause. I was having hot flashes and um night sweats and within two weeks I um night sweats and within two weeks I um night sweats and within two weeks I have not had another one. So, those have not had another one. So, those have not had another one. So, those ended for me completely. Um, men ended for me completely. Um, men ended for me completely. Um, men testosterone, there's studies that show testosterone, there's studies that show testosterone, there's studies that show that men with low tes testosterone can that men with low tes testosterone can that men with low tes testosterone can get their testosterone into the level of get their testosterone into the level of get their testosterone into the level of teenagers. Like, teenagers. Like, teenagers. Like, >> wow, >> wow, >> wow, >> it's crazy. Works on for testosterone. >> it's crazy. Works on for testosterone. >> it's crazy. Works on for testosterone. Yeah, it's crazy for that. Um, the Yeah, it's crazy for that. Um, the Yeah, it's crazy for that. Um, the resilience part, the doing the hard resilience part, the doing the hard resilience part, the doing the hard thing. A lot of people want to come one thing. A lot of people want to come one thing. A lot of people want to come one time just to do a hard thing, like it's time just to do a hard thing, like it's time just to do a hard thing, like it's a bucket list, and then they find they a bucket list, and then they find they a bucket list, and then they find they felt so good, they want to come back. felt so good, they want to come back. felt so good, they want to come back. And some don't, right? Some some don't. And some don't, right? Some some don't. And some don't, right? Some some don't. some it's just I heard about this and I some it's just I heard about this and I some it's just I heard about this and I want to just give this a try. But um a want to just give this a try. But um a want to just give this a try. But um a lot lot lot actually am going to look. This is my actually am going to look. This is my actually am going to look. This is my very first notebook very first notebook very first notebook where I used to write down all the where I used to write down all the where I used to write down all the benefits. I haven't talked about them
58:00benefits. I haven't talked about them benefits. I haven't talked about them like had to in a long long time like like had to in a long long time like like had to in a long long time like this. But it's important [clears throat] this. But it's important [clears throat] this. But it's important [clears throat] because your nervous system, you because your nervous system, you because your nervous system, you strengthen your nervous system. That's strengthen your nervous system. That's strengthen your nervous system. That's that part of that resilience part. But that part of that resilience part. But that part of that resilience part. But there's decreases across the board in there's decreases across the board in there's decreases across the board in depression and anxiety in people. And depression and anxiety in people. And depression and anxiety in people. And there's science studies that are showing there's science studies that are showing there's science studies that are showing this as well. Um, but it supports your this as well. Um, but it supports your this as well. Um, but it supports your immune system. So, I haven't been sick. immune system. So, I haven't been sick. immune system. So, I haven't been sick. Um, Um, Um, >> you give it a little bit of stress, >> you give it a little bit of stress, >> you give it a little bit of stress, right? A little bit of stress over and right? A little bit of stress over and right? A little bit of stress over and over and over. It starts to learn how to over and over. It starts to learn how to over and over. It starts to learn how to keep you healthy. Not saying that no one keep you healthy. Not saying that no one keep you healthy. Not saying that no one has gotten sick because people have, but has gotten sick because people have, but has gotten sick because people have, but >> hasn't been me. Lowers people's blood >> hasn't been me. Lowers people's blood >> hasn't been me. Lowers people's blood pressure and it lowered my resting heart pressure and it lowered my resting heart pressure and it lowered my resting heart rate almost 20 point beats a minute. I rate almost 20 point beats a minute. I rate almost 20 point beats a minute. I always had a very high resting heart always had a very high resting heart always had a very high resting heart rate and it's down almost without, you rate and it's down almost without, you rate and it's down almost without, you know, anything else. know, anything else. know, anything else. >> Um, >> Um, blood circulation that goes back to what blood circulation that goes back to what blood circulation that goes back to what we talked about before with how it's, we talked about before with how it's, we talked about before with how it's, you know, working to move the blood in you know, working to move the blood in you know, working to move the blood in your system. So, improves adrenal your system. So, improves adrenal your system. So, improves adrenal function,
59:00function, function, >> helps fix thyroid issues. So, my >> helps fix thyroid issues. So, my >> helps fix thyroid issues. So, my teacher, my first teacher, she improve, teacher, my first teacher, she improve, teacher, my first teacher, she improve, she got rid of her Hashimoto's she got rid of her Hashimoto's she got rid of her Hashimoto's and my one of my mentors also, they just and my one of my mentors also, they just and my one of my mentors also, they just got rid of their Hashimoto's. one with got rid of their Hashimoto's. one with got rid of their Hashimoto's. one with just co-plan, one with other things as just co-plan, one with other things as just co-plan, one with other things as well. So, well. So, well. So, but that's hormonal, right? So, but that's hormonal, right? So, but that's hormonal, right? So, >> um it's really like a it's really a men >> um it's really like a it's really a men >> um it's really like a it's really a men muscle recovery. Men use it, athletes muscle recovery. Men use it, athletes muscle recovery. Men use it, athletes use it a lot for muscle recovery, but if use it a lot for muscle recovery, but if use it a lot for muscle recovery, but if you cold plunge before a workout, you'll you cold plunge before a workout, you'll you cold plunge before a workout, you'll have the best workout ever. have the best workout ever. have the best workout ever. >> Um >> Um >> my second teacher, she is a biohacker >> my second teacher, she is a biohacker >> my second teacher, she is a biohacker and she puts all the and she puts all the and she puts all the machines on her to test everything that machines on her to test everything that machines on her to test everything that she does and she does and she does and There's evidence that shows that There's evidence that shows that There's evidence that shows that everything is works better when right everything is works better when right everything is works better when right after a cold plunge. So good for like after a cold plunge. So good for like after a cold plunge. So good for like marathon runners because if you start marathon runners because if you start marathon runners because if you start out it takes longer to heat up so you out it takes longer to heat up so you out it takes longer to heat up so you have before you start have before you start have before you start >> you get exhausted. >> you get exhausted. >> you get exhausted. >> Yeah. Yeah. >> Yeah. Yeah. >> So and again increase mitochondrial >> So and again increase mitochondrial >> So and again increase mitochondrial function which is the whole reason I
1:00function which is the whole reason I function which is the whole reason I started started started >> and it regulates >> and it regulates >> and it regulates >> autoimmune disorders. >> autoimmune disorders. >> autoimmune disorders. So um So um So um that's that's that's >> so many benefits. So many benefits. >> so many benefits. So many benefits. >> so many benefits. So many benefits. Yeah. So many. Yeah. So many. Yeah. So many. >> But if you have pain, sometimes the cold >> But if you have pain, sometimes the cold >> But if you have pain, sometimes the cold will go to the pain, so it might hurt a will go to the pain, so it might hurt a will go to the pain, so it might hurt a little worse in the water. little worse in the water. little worse in the water. >> But I People come here on crutches with >> But I People come here on crutches with >> But I People come here on crutches with plar fasciitis or plar fasciitis or plar fasciitis or something wrong like that and leave something wrong like that and leave something wrong like that and leave without their crutches. without their crutches. without their crutches. >> Wow. >> Wow. >> Yeah. >> Wow. >> I had a woman who broke her hip and you >> I had a woman who broke her hip and you >> I had a woman who broke her hip and you know that once you're 60 or 65, break a know that once you're 60 or 65, break a know that once you're 60 or 65, break a hip, it's often a death sentence. you hip, it's often a death sentence. you hip, it's often a death sentence. you know, not because of the hip, but know, not because of the hip, but know, not because of the hip, but because of what happens after because of what happens after because of what happens after >> and she was is single and a lot lives >> and she was is single and a lot lives >> and she was is single and a lot lives alone. And so she had to go to a alone. And so she had to go to a alone. And so she had to go to a treatment facility for a month. And when treatment facility for a month. And when treatment facility for a month. And when she got out, the physical therapist said she got out, the physical therapist said she got out, the physical therapist said she could not have an ice bath. Her she could not have an ice bath. Her she could not have an ice bath. Her doctor said, "It's an ice. It's ice. She doctor said, "It's an ice. It's ice. She doctor said, "It's an ice. It's ice. She can go. If she can get in the tank, she can go. If she can get in the tank, she can go. If she can get in the tank, she can go." And so she started coming and
1:01can go." And so she started coming and can go." And so she started coming and never had to go to physical therapy. never had to go to physical therapy. never had to go to physical therapy. >> She just got better. Yeah. She healed. >> She just got better. Yeah. She healed. >> She just got better. Yeah. She healed. Yeah. Yeah. So, so can cancer hates the cold. So, I So, so can cancer hates the cold. So, I So, so can cancer hates the cold. So, I offer icebass free to cancer patients. offer icebass free to cancer patients. offer icebass free to cancer patients. >> Um, >> Um, >> and one woman's tumors were going down, >> and one woman's tumors were going down, >> and one woman's tumors were going down, go shrinking or not growing, which is go shrinking or not growing, which is go shrinking or not growing, which is >> just as well for her. She has a lot of >> just as well for her. She has a lot of >> just as well for her. She has a lot of them them them >> cancer. Yeah. Does not like the cold. So >> cancer. Yeah. Does not like the cold. So >> cancer. Yeah. Does not like the cold. So they're just now doing more and more they're just now doing more and more they're just now doing more and more studies because before studies were studies because before studies were studies because before studies were almost always on showers which are almost always on showers which are almost always on showers which are ineffective because the shower is ineffective because the shower is ineffective because the shower is hitting you wherever you turn. It's hitting you wherever you turn. It's hitting you wherever you turn. It's literally the droplets are so small that literally the droplets are so small that literally the droplets are so small that they're actually warming up as they go they're actually warming up as they go they're actually warming up as they go down your body. So no matter what the down your body. So no matter what the down your body. So no matter what the temperature of the water is, it's not temperature of the water is, it's not temperature of the water is, it's not and you're not immersed, right? There's and you're not immersed, right? There's and you're not immersed, right? There's something about the activity of water something about the activity of water something about the activity of water when you're fully immersed. So when you're fully immersed. So when you're fully immersed. So >> yeah, >> yeah, >> they're starting now to do a lot more >> they're starting now to do a lot more >> they're starting now to do a lot more research which is exciting. research which is exciting. research which is exciting. >> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, I mean just you know >> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, I mean just you know >> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, I mean just you know people's personal testimonies you know people's personal testimonies you know people's personal testimonies you know they can't you know there's no lying in
1:02they can't you know there's no lying in they can't you know there's no lying in that when you p when they personally that when you p when they personally that when you p when they personally experience it but having these you know experience it but having these you know experience it but having these you know backed up studies is going to be so backed up studies is going to be so backed up studies is going to be so beneficial for more people you know kind beneficial for more people you know kind beneficial for more people you know kind of believing that this stuff actually is of believing that this stuff actually is of believing that this stuff actually is working for working for working for >> so many various areas and even when I >> so many various areas and even when I >> so many various areas and even when I started doing it you know in the started doing it you know in the started doing it you know in the beginning of like my grief it was like beginning of like my grief it was like beginning of like my grief it was like people thought I was insane for doing it people thought I was insane for doing it people thought I was insane for doing it and I'm like you have no idea like I and I'm like you have no idea like I and I'm like you have no idea like I didn't have any studies I was barely new didn't have any studies I was barely new didn't have any studies I was barely new to it and um but I'm like I know how I to it and um but I'm like I know how I to it and um but I'm like I know how I feel after and I know how my grief feels feel after and I know how my grief feels feel after and I know how my grief feels after and you know I wasn't I didn't after and you know I wasn't I didn't after and you know I wasn't I didn't feel like I was like sinking in my grief feel like I was like sinking in my grief feel like I was like sinking in my grief and everything. Um, and then yeah, since and everything. Um, and then yeah, since and everything. Um, and then yeah, since we haven't been at an apartment with a we haven't been at an apartment with a we haven't been at an apartment with a pool, um, I even had, my youngest is now pool, um, I even had, my youngest is now pool, um, I even had, my youngest is now two, a little over two now, but I had two, a little over two now, but I had two, a little over two now, but I had postpartum depression and anxiety, like postpartum depression and anxiety, like postpartum depression and anxiety, like severe. And so I, um, remembered, you severe. And so I, um, remembered, you severe. And so I, um, remembered, you know, cold water stuff. I would just do know, cold water stuff. I would just do know, cold water stuff. I would just do face dips, like a bunch of ice and face dips, like a bunch of ice and face dips, like a bunch of ice and water, just do that just for, it wasn't water, just do that just for, it wasn't water, just do that just for, it wasn't even that long, as much pretty much as even that long, as much pretty much as even that long, as much pretty much as much as I could hold my breath. But that
1:03much as I could hold my breath. But that much as I could hold my breath. But that really got me to snap out of, you know, really got me to snap out of, you know, really got me to snap out of, you know, these moments or like kind of perk me these moments or like kind of perk me these moments or like kind of perk me up. That's what I thought. But, you up. That's what I thought. But, you up. That's what I thought. But, you know, talking with you now, I'm like, know, talking with you now, I'm like, know, talking with you now, I'm like, "Oh, well, it probably helped balance my "Oh, well, it probably helped balance my "Oh, well, it probably helped balance my hormones, too." hormones, too." hormones, too." >> Well, yeah. So, you activated your >> Well, yeah. So, you activated your >> Well, yeah. So, you activated your mamillian dive reflex, which is um all mamillian dive reflex, which is um all mamillian dive reflex, which is um all mammals have it. And you can take it a mammals have it. And you can take it a mammals have it. And you can take it a step further. Do your face first, then step further. Do your face first, then step further. Do your face first, then your hands, then your feet your hands, then your feet your hands, then your feet >> in that order. anywhere that we don't >> in that order. anywhere that we don't >> in that order. anywhere that we don't grow hair which is like no one because grow hair which is like no one because grow hair which is like no one because you you've seen men that are you know so you you've seen men that are you know so you you've seen men that are you know so it's this globulous skin that so you it's this globulous skin that so you it's this globulous skin that so you right here under your eyes right here under your eyes right here under your eyes >> this one spot on your hand and then on >> this one spot on your hand and then on >> this one spot on your hand and then on your foot those are like glo globulous your foot those are like glo globulous your foot those are like glo globulous skin those areas if you do all three of skin those areas if you do all three of skin those areas if you do all three of them it's obviously you're not immersed them it's obviously you're not immersed them it's obviously you're not immersed but that those three in that order but but that those three in that order but but that those three in that order but when you get your face in the water it when you get your face in the water it when you get your face in the water it automatically it's to protect mammals automatically it's to protect mammals automatically it's to protect mammals from drowning counting. So instead of from drowning counting. So instead of from drowning counting. So instead of panicking, imagine the zebra who's bent
1:04panicking, imagine the zebra who's bent panicking, imagine the zebra who's bent over the lake getting a drink of water over the lake getting a drink of water over the lake getting a drink of water and falls in. Nature has given us this and falls in. Nature has given us this and falls in. Nature has given us this dive reflex that slows his respiration, dive reflex that slows his respiration, dive reflex that slows his respiration, slows his heart rate slows his heart rate slows his heart rate so he can try to get out. Now, if he so he can try to get out. Now, if he so he can try to get out. Now, if he doesn't get out, he will eventually doesn't get out, he will eventually doesn't get out, he will eventually panic. But initially, you've seen babies panic. But initially, you've seen babies panic. But initially, you've seen babies where they throw them in the pool, the where they throw them in the pool, the where they throw them in the pool, the baby flips, doesn't panic. baby flips, doesn't panic. baby flips, doesn't panic. >> Doesn't panic. So, we learn to panic. >> Doesn't panic. So, we learn to panic. >> Doesn't panic. So, we learn to panic. >> We learn to be afraid. >> We learn to be afraid. >> We learn to be afraid. >> True. [laughter] >> True. [laughter] >> True. [laughter] >> Right. So, when you do this, your >> Right. So, when you do this, your >> Right. So, when you do this, your respiration slows and your heart rate respiration slows and your heart rate respiration slows and your heart rate slows. And it's brief, but they've done slows. And it's brief, but they've done slows. And it's brief, but they've done this to us in TV and movies always this to us in TV and movies always this to us in TV and movies always saying, but they always said it to saying, but they always said it to saying, but they always said it to women, if you notice, and they would women, if you notice, and they would women, if you notice, and they would say, "Go in the bathroom and throw put say, "Go in the bathroom and throw put say, "Go in the bathroom and throw put water on your face." water on your face." water on your face." >> Yeah. >> Yeah. which they made it sound like it's just which they made it sound like it's just which they made it sound like it's just you're hysterical. I wish they had let you're hysterical. I wish they had let you're hysterical. I wish they had let us know that's actual science because it us know that's actual science because it us know that's actual science because it is because worst case scenario you can is because worst case scenario you can is because worst case scenario you can go in a restaurant and literally throw go in a restaurant and literally throw go in a restaurant and literally throw cold water on your face and it will help cold water on your face and it will help cold water on your face and it will help you if your heart is racing because you
1:05you if your heart is racing because you you if your heart is racing because you just got bad news which is what happens just got bad news which is what happens just got bad news which is what happens in restaurants. [laughter] in restaurants. [laughter] in restaurants. [laughter] you can calm down. And if you have if you can calm down. And if you have if you can calm down. And if you have if you're at home and you're having you're you're at home and you're having you're you're at home and you're having you're at home with a new baby and you're at home with a new baby and you're at home with a new baby and you're having bad postpartum, you can leave having bad postpartum, you can leave having bad postpartum, you can leave that Tupperware bowl out full time every that Tupperware bowl out full time every that Tupperware bowl out full time every morning. You can throw the ice in it, morning. You can throw the ice in it, morning. You can throw the ice in it, add water, walk away anytime you need add water, walk away anytime you need add water, walk away anytime you need to. to. to. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> 8 10 seconds. 8 10 seconds over and over >> 8 10 seconds. 8 10 seconds over and over >> 8 10 seconds. 8 10 seconds over and over again. No one has to know. It doesn't again. No one has to know. It doesn't again. No one has to know. It doesn't cost you anything. And you're activating cost you anything. And you're activating cost you anything. And you're activating >> something that's God-given to help us to >> something that's God-given to help us to >> something that's God-given to help us to help us. help us. help us. >> And you're teaching yourself that you >> And you're teaching yourself that you >> And you're teaching yourself that you have options. And most people feel like have options. And most people feel like have options. And most people feel like they don't have options when they're they don't have options when they're they don't have options when they're like when you're in grief or you're in like when you're in grief or you're in like when you're in grief or you're in anxiety or you're in depression and you anxiety or you're in depression and you anxiety or you're in depression and you feel like you don't have options. feel like you don't have options. feel like you don't have options. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> And then the people that try to help you >> And then the people that try to help you >> And then the people that try to help you tell you things that aren't helpful. tell you things that aren't helpful. tell you things that aren't helpful. >> Go outside and take a walk. And you >> Go outside and take a walk. And you >> Go outside and take a walk. And you think if I could get up and dress and go think if I could get up and dress and go think if I could get up and dress and go outside, I probably wouldn't be outside, I probably wouldn't be outside, I probably wouldn't be depressed, right?
1:06depressed, right? depressed, right? >> Um >> Um >> it's like I'm gonna be depressed walking >> it's like I'm gonna be depressed walking >> it's like I'm gonna be depressed walking in the sunshine being like everything in the sunshine being like everything in the sunshine being like everything sucks. sucks. sucks. >> Yeah. I mean, I would not be think how >> Yeah. I mean, I would not be think how >> Yeah. I mean, I would not be think how how to get dressed. how to get dressed. how to get dressed. >> You know what I mean? If I left the >> You know what I mean? If I left the >> You know what I mean? If I left the Tupperware bowl out, I like to think I Tupperware bowl out, I like to think I Tupperware bowl out, I like to think I could at least could at least could at least >> manage. It seems so simple. It's not >> manage. It seems so simple. It's not >> manage. It seems so simple. It's not like it takes a lot of thinking or like it takes a lot of thinking or like it takes a lot of thinking or physical activity. It's like, nope, it's physical activity. It's like, nope, it's physical activity. It's like, nope, it's there and then it's it's so much so much there and then it's it's so much so much there and then it's it's so much so much uh less energy to to do that. And uh less energy to to do that. And uh less energy to to do that. And >> yeah, >> yeah, >> right, >> right, >> right, >> baby. >> baby. >> baby. >> Yeah, it is so simple. I mean, I I've >> Yeah, it is so simple. I mean, I I've >> Yeah, it is so simple. I mean, I I've even done that when I've been flustered. even done that when I've been flustered. even done that when I've been flustered. Like, I'll just go to the sink and just Like, I'll just go to the sink and just Like, I'll just go to the sink and just splash water like on my face and I'm splash water like on my face and I'm splash water like on my face and I'm like and then I'll walk outside and then like and then I'll walk outside and then like and then I'll walk outside and then it's like it cool, you know, the wind it's like it cool, you know, the wind it's like it cool, you know, the wind blows it and it cools it down and then blows it and it cools it down and then blows it and it cools it down and then I'm like it's just kind of like a reset. I'm like it's just kind of like a reset. I'm like it's just kind of like a reset. And um my oldest, she'll do that when And um my oldest, she'll do that when And um my oldest, she'll do that when she's flustered. And I was, you know, she's flustered. And I was, you know, she's flustered. And I was, you know, when I was doing it so often, doing the when I was doing it so often, doing the when I was doing it so often, doing the cold water stuff. Um I would just tell cold water stuff. Um I would just tell cold water stuff. Um I would just tell her like, "I'm just feeling really her like, "I'm just feeling really her like, "I'm just feeling really flustered or I'm really stressed." So flustered or I'm really stressed." So flustered or I'm really stressed." So like it's helping like calm me down. And like it's helping like calm me down. And like it's helping like calm me down. And then so she would when she would be then so she would when she would be then so she would when she would be flustered, she's like, "Mom, can I have
1:07flustered, she's like, "Mom, can I have flustered, she's like, "Mom, can I have a buck? Can I have a cup of ice or a a buck? Can I have a cup of ice or a a buck? Can I have a cup of ice or a bowl of ice water?" And I'm like, "Why?" bowl of ice water?" And I'm like, "Why?" bowl of ice water?" And I'm like, "Why?" She's like, "Sure. I'm so flustered." She's like, "Sure. I'm so flustered." She's like, "Sure. I'm so flustered." And I'm like, "Oh, at least you're, you And I'm like, "Oh, at least you're, you And I'm like, "Oh, at least you're, you know, finding ways to to decompress and know, finding ways to to decompress and know, finding ways to to decompress and and kind of cope, you know, something, and kind of cope, you know, something, and kind of cope, you know, something, >> right?" I love it because I wish id >> right?" I love it because I wish id >> right?" I love it because I wish id known lot I wish id known as a teenager. known lot I wish id known as a teenager. known lot I wish id known as a teenager. >> My next goal is to get into some schools >> My next goal is to get into some schools >> My next goal is to get into some schools and talk to teenage girls because and talk to teenage girls because and talk to teenage girls because >> as a teenage girl, I could have saved >> as a teenage girl, I could have saved >> as a teenage girl, I could have saved myself some heartache by had something myself some heartache by had something myself some heartache by had something to do that didn't include talking to my to do that didn't include talking to my to do that didn't include talking to my mother, you know. mother, you know. mother, you know. >> Yeah. [laughter] >> Yeah. [laughter] And even like you mentioned is like you And even like you mentioned is like you And even like you mentioned is like you know in movies it's it's showed as like know in movies it's it's showed as like know in movies it's it's showed as like we're supposed to be hysterical and oh we're supposed to be hysterical and oh we're supposed to be hysterical and oh splash water in your face and it's like splash water in your face and it's like splash water in your face and it's like no really no really no really >> right. Yeah. >> right. Yeah. >> right. Yeah. >> Yeah. It's just like more of like that >> Yeah. It's just like more of like that >> Yeah. It's just like more of like that shock like oh get over it kind of thing shock like oh get over it kind of thing shock like oh get over it kind of thing versus like no versus like no versus like no >> you know submerge your face in it >> you know submerge your face in it >> you know submerge your face in it because it's going to be doing that you because it's going to be doing that you because it's going to be doing that you know and like walking through. So know and like walking through. So know and like walking through. So >> yeah it's just there's such depth to the >> yeah it's just there's such depth to the >> yeah it's just there's such depth to the benefits of that. benefits of that. benefits of that. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Um >> Um >> and you said a reset and it is your >> and you said a reset and it is your >> and you said a reset and it is your whole bo it's like a whole body reset. I
1:08whole bo it's like a whole body reset. I whole bo it's like a whole body reset. I that's what I tell people. It's like, that's what I tell people. It's like, that's what I tell people. It's like, especially your first time, it's like especially your first time, it's like especially your first time, it's like turning off your computer turning off your computer turning off your computer and then turning it back on. and then turning it back on. and then turning it back on. >> You may not even remember it, but it's >> You may not even remember it, but it's >> You may not even remember it, but it's like things go quiet. like things go quiet. like things go quiet. It gets very still. It gets very still. It gets very still. It's only time my brain stops. It's only time my brain stops. It's only time my brain stops. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Every system in your body goes to work. >> Every system in your body goes to work. >> Every system in your body goes to work. Because if your if all of your Because if your if all of your Because if your if all of your cardiovascular system is working, that's cardiovascular system is working, that's cardiovascular system is working, that's affecting your digest digestion system affecting your digest digestion system affecting your digest digestion system and your nervous system and your nervous system and your nervous system >> and your immune system and even the >> and your immune system and even the >> and your immune system and even the blood is shunted from your brain. So blood is shunted from your brain. So blood is shunted from your brain. So every single thing is happening. All of every single thing is happening. All of every single thing is happening. All of this is happening in two minutes. this is happening in two minutes. this is happening in two minutes. >> It's pretty incredible. Um, all really >> It's pretty incredible. Um, all really >> It's pretty incredible. Um, all really to save your life. [laughter] to save your life. [laughter] to save your life. [laughter] >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Because your warmest blood is being >> Because your warmest blood is being >> Because your warmest blood is being shunted to your core shunted to your core shunted to your core >> in case, like I said, you fell off an >> in case, like I said, you fell off an >> in case, like I said, you fell off an Alaskan cruise, you know, um because Alaskan cruise, you know, um because Alaskan cruise, you know, um because you're going to save your organs. And so you're going to save your organs. And so you're going to save your organs. And so all these things are happening all these things are happening all these things are happening immediately and it's really hard to not immediately and it's really hard to not immediately and it's really hard to not really gain a new respect
1:09really gain a new respect really gain a new respect and love for your body. and love for your body. and love for your body. >> Yeah. A whole other thing that I don't >> Yeah. A whole other thing that I don't >> Yeah. A whole other thing that I don't talk about as often as I used to is just talk about as often as I used to is just talk about as often as I used to is just this body love, loving your own body. this body love, loving your own body. this body love, loving your own body. Women who've never worn a bikini say, Women who've never worn a bikini say, Women who've never worn a bikini say, "I'm wearing a bikini because it's "I'm wearing a bikini because it's "I'm wearing a bikini because it's easier to get on and off and because I easier to get on and off and because I easier to get on and off and because I don't I no longer care." don't I no longer care." don't I no longer care." >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> What else someone else thinks of my body >> What else someone else thinks of my body >> What else someone else thinks of my body because this body is the one taking me because this body is the one taking me because this body is the one taking me out in that water and bringing me in. out in that water and bringing me in. out in that water and bringing me in. And I'm just now appreciating that it And I'm just now appreciating that it And I'm just now appreciating that it gave me those babies and it did. And gave me those babies and it did. And gave me those babies and it did. And then they can list all these things and then they can list all these things and then they can list all these things and they never noticed before until they they never noticed before until they they never noticed before until they asked it to take it in the water. Take asked it to take it in the water. Take asked it to take it in the water. Take take her, you know, take them in the take her, you know, take them in the take her, you know, take them in the water and they realize that it did and water and they realize that it did and water and they realize that it did and they're like, I can't. The one of my they're like, I can't. The one of my they're like, I can't. The one of my best messages I received was only about best messages I received was only about best messages I received was only about eight months in and a woman wrote me eight months in and a woman wrote me eight months in and a woman wrote me this beautiful letter and it said, I'm this beautiful letter and it said, I'm this beautiful letter and it said, I'm finding myself finding myself finding myself being kinder to myself. being kinder to myself. being kinder to myself. >> And she was very long about why and and >> And she was very long about why and and >> And she was very long about why and and all of that. She said, "It's because of all of that. She said, "It's because of all of that. She said, "It's because of the water. the water. the water. It's because of the cold. It's because
1:10It's because of the cold. It's because It's because of the cold. It's because I'm getting in touch because there's I'm getting in touch because there's I'm getting in touch because there's nowhere else to be for those. nowhere else to be for those. nowhere else to be for those. >> It's only a couple of minutes, but >> It's only a couple of minutes, but >> It's only a couple of minutes, but really it's all we need." really it's all we need." really it's all we need." >> Yeah. And it's really like fully >> Yeah. And it's really like fully >> Yeah. And it's really like fully present. Like I mean, at least when I present. Like I mean, at least when I present. Like I mean, at least when I reflect back on the times I've gone in reflect back on the times I've gone in reflect back on the times I've gone in my the pool, it was like I I couldn't my the pool, it was like I I couldn't my the pool, it was like I I couldn't think about grief. I couldn't think think about grief. I couldn't think think about grief. I couldn't think about what time it was. like nothing about what time it was. like nothing about what time it was. like nothing existed outside of like my body is existed outside of like my body is existed outside of like my body is submerged in this very cold water and submerged in this very cold water and submerged in this very cold water and I'm just I'm doing those deep breaths I'm just I'm doing those deep breaths I'm just I'm doing those deep breaths and it was like that's all I could focus and it was like that's all I could focus and it was like that's all I could focus on was those deep breaths and it really on was those deep breaths and it really on was those deep breaths and it really forces you to be focused just on that. forces you to be focused just on that. forces you to be focused just on that. Um because it can be hard. I mean you Um because it can be hard. I mean you Um because it can be hard. I mean you know people a lot of people say like oh know people a lot of people say like oh know people a lot of people say like oh take deep breaths when you're stressed. take deep breaths when you're stressed. take deep breaths when you're stressed. It's like, but then your mind's running It's like, but then your mind's running It's like, but then your mind's running on everything else because you're on everything else because you're on everything else because you're realizing where where you're at, your realizing where where you're at, your realizing where where you're at, your physical movement, where your feet are physical movement, where your feet are physical movement, where your feet are placed. And when you're submerged in placed. And when you're submerged in placed. And when you're submerged in that, nothing else matters other than that, nothing else matters other than that, nothing else matters other than your breath but you and your breath. And your breath but you and your breath. And your breath but you and your breath. And it's so beautiful. it's so beautiful. it's so beautiful. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> So beautiful. >> So beautiful. >> So beautiful. >> Definitely. >> Definitely. >> Definitely. >> And I love that people will use it as a
1:11>> And I love that people will use it as a >> And I love that people will use it as a tool to heal of all the things, you tool to heal of all the things, you tool to heal of all the things, you know. Um know. Um know. Um >> I might say the addicts are my favorite >> I might say the addicts are my favorite >> I might say the addicts are my favorite only because I took a lot I was at a only because I took a lot I was at a only because I took a lot I was at a retreat a bunch of um retreat a bunch of um retreat a bunch of um >> drug addicts na and they were like why >> drug addicts na and they were like why >> drug addicts na and they were like why didn't anyone ever tell us about this didn't anyone ever tell us about this didn't anyone ever tell us about this before [laughter] before [laughter] before [laughter] that dopamine hit you know that dopamine hit you know that dopamine hit you know >> and it's going in tanks are going into >> and it's going in tanks are going into >> and it's going in tanks are going into treatment centers and they're sensing treatment centers and they're sensing treatment centers and they're sensing that that that >> you give up something and you have >> you give up something and you have >> you give up something and you have something to replace it with something to replace it with something to replace it with >> right so I have people that have given >> right so I have people that have given >> right so I have people that have given up sugar and given up alcohol ol and up sugar and given up alcohol ol and up sugar and given up alcohol ol and then I no no no one has given up drugs then I no no no one has given up drugs then I no no no one has given up drugs with me but I they've taken up cop with me but I they've taken up cop with me but I they've taken up cop plunging after the fact and said this plunging after the fact and said this plunging after the fact and said this would have made giving up drugs easier would have made giving up drugs easier would have made giving up drugs easier because you have something else that's because you have something else that's because you have something else that's giving you that dopamine right transfer giving you that dopamine right transfer giving you that dopamine right transfer um because we all know you give up um because we all know you give up um because we all know you give up something you usually pick up something something you usually pick up something something you usually pick up something else [laughter] else [laughter] else [laughter] >> it's like at least it's in a healthy >> it's like at least it's in a healthy >> it's like at least it's in a healthy manner manner manner >> exactly exactly exactly and then >> exactly exactly exactly and then >> exactly exactly exactly and then learning to deal with your breath right
1:12learning to deal with your breath right learning to deal with your breath right like you're forced to deal with it in in like you're forced to deal with it in in like you're forced to deal with it in in the cold. But then you start to realize the cold. But then you start to realize the cold. But then you start to realize we've been breathing we've been breathing we've been breathing since we were born since we were born since we were born >> and we've not thought much about it >> and we've not thought much about it >> and we've not thought much about it >> and it's never stopped. It's always >> and it's never stopped. It's always >> and it's never stopped. It's always there for us. But we can manipulate it. there for us. But we can manipulate it. there for us. But we can manipulate it. We can actually breathe with intention We can actually breathe with intention We can actually breathe with intention and we can bring ourselves down when and we can bring ourselves down when and we can bring ourselves down when we're up. We can bring ourselves up when we're up. We can bring ourselves up when we're up. We can bring ourselves up when we're down. We can take ourselves, heck, we're down. We can take ourselves, heck, we're down. We can take ourselves, heck, I now teach a program that takes people I now teach a program that takes people I now teach a program that takes people into psychedelic experiences all with a into psychedelic experiences all with a into psychedelic experiences all with a breath. like we can actually use our breath. like we can actually use our breath. like we can actually use our breath. Now, I didn't know that. And I breath. Now, I didn't know that. And I breath. Now, I didn't know that. And I think I'm just like you when you said think I'm just like you when you said think I'm just like you when you said people tell you to breathe and you're people tell you to breathe and you're people tell you to breathe and you're like, I like, I like, I people all my life told me breathe. Just people all my life told me breathe. Just people all my life told me breathe. Just take a breath. Take a deep breath. I take a breath. Take a deep breath. I take a breath. Take a deep breath. I remember feeling like why doesn't remember feeling like why doesn't remember feeling like why doesn't someone tell me how like this? someone tell me how like this? someone tell me how like this? >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> I have magnets and you know keychains >> I have magnets and you know keychains >> I have magnets and you know keychains and people would give me those things and people would give me those things and people would give me those things because they were like you need to calm because they were like you need to calm because they were like you need to calm down. down. down. >> No one ever told me how. >> No one ever told me how. >> No one ever told me how. >> Yeah. Now that I'm a a breath worker,
1:13>> Yeah. Now that I'm a a breath worker, >> Yeah. Now that I'm a a breath worker, if someone's struggling, I literally if someone's struggling, I literally if someone's struggling, I literally can't help myself. I get like, "Hey, can't help myself. I get like, "Hey, can't help myself. I get like, "Hey, hey, hey, with me." And then I count and hey, hey, with me." And then I count and hey, hey, with me." And then I count and I start breathing how I want them to I start breathing how I want them to I start breathing how I want them to breathe and I I'm literally mimic what breathe and I I'm literally mimic what breathe and I I'm literally mimic what I'm have them mimic what I'm doing and I I'm have them mimic what I'm doing and I I'm have them mimic what I'm doing and I can get them to breathe with me and I can get them to breathe with me and I can get them to breathe with me and I think, why didn't anyone ever do that think, why didn't anyone ever do that think, why didn't anyone ever do that with me? Because no one knew, right? with me? Because no one knew, right? with me? Because no one knew, right? >> Um or I didn't know the right people, I >> Um or I didn't know the right people, I >> Um or I didn't know the right people, I guess. But I believe if we had time guess. But I believe if we had time guess. But I believe if we had time instead of timeout corners, I believe if instead of timeout corners, I believe if instead of timeout corners, I believe if we had breathing corners, um our we had breathing corners, um our we had breathing corners, um our children Yeah. would be a lot better. children Yeah. would be a lot better. children Yeah. would be a lot better. >> That's what I'm gonna I'm gonna have to >> That's what I'm gonna I'm gonna have to >> That's what I'm gonna I'm gonna have to start doing that. My my son poor my he's start doing that. My my son poor my he's start doing that. My my son poor my he's my middle. So I'm like poor kid. My my middle. So I'm like poor kid. My my middle. So I'm like poor kid. My daughter I I've learned I've taught like daughter I I've learned I've taught like daughter I I've learned I've taught like where I would get right in front of her where I would get right in front of her where I would get right in front of her to tell her like all right we're taking to tell her like all right we're taking to tell her like all right we're taking a deep breath or like do you want to do a deep breath or like do you want to do a deep breath or like do you want to do some movement, you know, like let's do some movement, you know, like let's do some movement, you know, like let's do some jumping jacks, something to like some jumping jacks, something to like some jumping jacks, something to like simmer us back down. And my son, he's simmer us back down. And my son, he's simmer us back down. And my son, he's just he's such a fireball. like he'll just he's such a fireball. like he'll just he's such a fireball. like he'll just he's very more he's more of like a just he's very more he's more of like a just he's very more he's more of like a explosive and then he'll calm down. explosive and then he'll calm down. explosive and then he'll calm down. >> And so it's like I'm trying to get him >> And so it's like I'm trying to get him >> And so it's like I'm trying to get him when before he explodes,
1:14when before he explodes, when before he explodes, >> you know, or even if he does explode, >> you know, or even if he does explode, >> you know, or even if he does explode, it's like how to get him to kind of it's like how to get him to kind of it's like how to get him to kind of reenter. And I think he would really reenter. And I think he would really reenter. And I think he would really benefit is like doing that is getting benefit is like doing that is getting benefit is like doing that is getting right in his face and being like right in his face and being like right in his face and being like >> just start breathing because then he >> just start breathing because then he >> just start breathing because then he will start he knows that that's what we will start he knows that that's what we will start he knows that that's what we do. But yeah, we have like kind of a do. But yeah, we have like kind of a do. But yeah, we have like kind of a corner. Um, but I have like little corner. Um, but I have like little corner. Um, but I have like little things up of like a deep breath, you things up of like a deep breath, you things up of like a deep breath, you know, things like that to kind of help know, things like that to kind of help know, things like that to kind of help reenter when we're flustered. reenter when we're flustered. reenter when we're flustered. >> How old is he? >> How old is he? >> How old is he? >> He's five. >> He's five. >> He's five. >> Well, yeah. And you can make it so fun >> Well, yeah. And you can make it so fun >> Well, yeah. And you can make it so fun with a 5-year-old because you're like with a 5-year-old because you're like with a 5-year-old because you're like you're blowing out a candle. [snorts] you're blowing out a candle. [snorts] you're blowing out a candle. [snorts] >> Yeah, exactly. >> Yeah, exactly. >> Yeah, exactly. >> Fun. Yeah. >> Fun. Yeah. >> Fun. Yeah. >> We have like a little book where it's >> We have like a little book where it's >> We have like a little book where it's like um like you breathe in like you're like um like you breathe in like you're like um like you breathe in like you're smelling a flower and then you breathe smelling a flower and then you breathe smelling a flower and then you breathe out like you're blowing out blowing up a out like you're blowing out blowing up a out like you're blowing out blowing up a balloon or something like that. So, it balloon or something like that. So, it balloon or something like that. So, it has like different ways of doing it and has like different ways of doing it and has like different ways of doing it and stuff. And so there's there's times stuff. And so there's there's times stuff. And so there's there's times where we'll practice like um like role where we'll practice like um like role where we'll practice like um like role playing. I'm like, oh, you're so mad playing. I'm like, oh, you're so mad playing. I'm like, oh, you're so mad because and I'll I'll make up some because and I'll I'll make up some because and I'll I'll make up some story. Oh, because the baby took your story. Oh, because the baby took your story. Oh, because the baby took your toy and you're mad. Like what are you toy and you're mad. Like what are you toy and you're mad. Like what are you going to do? Because then it's like, you going to do? Because then it's like, you going to do? Because then it's like, you know, practicing that beforehand. know, practicing that beforehand. know, practicing that beforehand. >> It's like more likely when he's actually
1:15>> It's like more likely when he's actually >> It's like more likely when he's actually flustered. It's like, oh, this is what flustered. It's like, oh, this is what flustered. It's like, oh, this is what we do. Kind of go back to the training we do. Kind of go back to the training we do. Kind of go back to the training of it. But of it. But of it. But >> absolutely, I think I'm g have to start >> absolutely, I think I'm g have to start >> absolutely, I think I'm g have to start practicing that is like just getting practicing that is like just getting practicing that is like just getting right up in his face. right up in his face. right up in his face. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> He's one that it's like >> He's one that it's like >> He's one that it's like One, it makes people hear you, but also One, it makes people hear you, but also One, it makes people hear you, but also they feel seen. Even if they hate it, they feel seen. Even if they hate it, they feel seen. Even if they hate it, like not everyone likes it, but they like not everyone likes it, but they like not everyone likes it, but they feel seen and laugh afterwards. You know feel seen and laugh afterwards. You know feel seen and laugh afterwards. You know what they're going to remember? They what they're going to remember? They what they're going to remember? They feel seen. feel seen. feel seen. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> That you took the, you know, including >> That you took the, you know, including >> That you took the, you know, including your children, right? your children, right? your children, right? >> That you took the time to Yeah, that was >> That you took the time to Yeah, that was >> That you took the time to Yeah, that was so annoying, Mom. I hate it when you did so annoying, Mom. I hate it when you did so annoying, Mom. I hate it when you did that secretly in my heart. I love that that secretly in my heart. I love that that secretly in my heart. I love that you gave me that time and that you gave me that time and that you gave me that time and that attention. attention. attention. >> It's like they'll feel safe, like that >> It's like they'll feel safe, like that >> It's like they'll feel safe, like that safety as well. It's like, "No, I'm here safety as well. It's like, "No, I'm here safety as well. It's like, "No, I'm here with you while you're, you know, while with you while you're, you know, while with you while you're, you know, while you're having this chaos, you know, you're having this chaos, you know, you're having this chaos, you know, inside and everything." inside and everything." inside and everything." >> Oh, >> Oh, >> well, don't be surprised then if you >> well, don't be surprised then if you >> well, don't be surprised then if you have a meltdown, your son will get in have a meltdown, your son will get in have a meltdown, your son will get in your face and help. your face and help. your face and help. >> Oh, I know. They will tell me like when >> Oh, I know. They will tell me like when >> Oh, I know. They will tell me like when I've been flustered. They have I've been flustered. They have I've been flustered. They have definitely I mean, I laugh about it now, definitely I mean, I laugh about it now, definitely I mean, I laugh about it now, but of course in the moment I'm like,
1:16but of course in the moment I'm like, but of course in the moment I'm like, "Oh my gosh." They But they'll tell me, "Oh my gosh." They But they'll tell me, "Oh my gosh." They But they'll tell me, "Mom, you're getting you're getting "Mom, you're getting you're getting "Mom, you're getting you're getting frustrated. You should take a breath." frustrated. You should take a breath." frustrated. You should take a breath." And [laughter] then of course in my And [laughter] then of course in my And [laughter] then of course in my head, you know, not having the training head, you know, not having the training head, you know, not having the training from being little, it's like I'm, you from being little, it's like I'm, you from being little, it's like I'm, you know, retraining as an adult that I'm know, retraining as an adult that I'm know, retraining as an adult that I'm like, like, like, >> right, >> right, >> you know, that's not going to work or, >> you know, that's not going to work or, >> you know, that's not going to work or, you know, I don't tell them that, but in you know, I don't tell them that, but in you know, I don't tell them that, but in my head I'm thinking, my head I'm thinking, my head I'm thinking, >> got to take a deep breath. >> got to take a deep breath. >> got to take a deep breath. >> Take a breath. Yeah. [laughter] >> Take a breath. Yeah. [laughter] >> Take a breath. Yeah. [laughter] >> Have time for that. >> Have time for that. >> Have time for that. >> Yeah. Exactly. Yeah. But it is it is uh >> Yeah. Exactly. Yeah. But it is it is uh >> Yeah. Exactly. Yeah. But it is it is uh I'm glad you made that point though I'm glad you made that point though I'm glad you made that point though about like the breaths. I'm very about like the breaths. I'm very about like the breaths. I'm very fascinated on how you do the fascinated on how you do the fascinated on how you do the um the different breathing and getting um the different breathing and getting um the different breathing and getting them into like kind of like a trance them into like kind of like a trance them into like kind of like a trance state. Um because I mean we could even state. Um because I mean we could even state. Um because I mean we could even in you know when we get stressed like in you know when we get stressed like in you know when we get stressed like our breath is shortened and we take our breath is shortened and we take our breath is shortened and we take those very those very those very >> yeah like more like your chest instead >> yeah like more like your chest instead >> yeah like more like your chest instead of in your belly and um I'll even of in your belly and um I'll even of in your belly and um I'll even recognize that if I don't get sleep I'm recognize that if I don't get sleep I'm recognize that if I don't get sleep I'm like gh like my breathing just feels like gh like my breathing just feels like gh like my breathing just feels more stressful even though I'm not more stressful even though I'm not more stressful even though I'm not stressed but I'm like oh my lack of
1:17stressed but I'm like oh my lack of stressed but I'm like oh my lack of sleep sleep sleep >> I can feel like the cortisol like I I'll >> I can feel like the cortisol like I I'll >> I can feel like the cortisol like I I'll tell friends that like I feel the tell friends that like I feel the tell friends that like I feel the cortisol like running through me today cortisol like running through me today cortisol like running through me today it's just higher today but It's like my it's just higher today but It's like my it's just higher today but It's like my my breath will be a lot more um well my breath will be a lot more um well my breath will be a lot more um well will be shortened and and then when you will be shortened and and then when you will be shortened and and then when you know when I I could recognize it in know when I I could recognize it in know when I I could recognize it in myself when I feel like really good it's myself when I feel like really good it's myself when I feel like really good it's like I do have those very deep belly like I do have those very deep belly like I do have those very deep belly breaths and you just you just feel good breaths and you just you just feel good breaths and you just you just feel good and um and um and um >> the ideal breath would be five and a >> the ideal breath would be five and a >> the ideal breath would be five and a half seconds half seconds half seconds >> like breathing in for five and a half >> like breathing in for five and a half >> like breathing in for five and a half seconds seconds seconds >> and out and that would be the air goes >> and out and that would be the air goes >> and out and that would be the air goes into your belly first then your chest into your belly first then your chest into your belly first then your chest and then your side body which takes and then your side body which takes and then your side body which takes practice actually. practice actually. practice actually. >> So, but I teach people to just do four >> So, but I teach people to just do four >> So, but I teach people to just do four because it's easier. And I also teach to because it's easier. And I also teach to because it's easier. And I also teach to use your So, if you practice all day use your So, if you practice all day use your So, if you practice all day long whenever it comes into your mind, long whenever it comes into your mind, long whenever it comes into your mind, you can do one, two, three, four, you can do one, two, three, four, you can do one, two, three, four, in and out. Just so now you're touching,
1:18in and out. Just so now you're touching, in and out. Just so now you're touching, >> you're counting, >> you're counting, >> you're counting, >> you're activating more senses. And you >> you're activating more senses. And you >> you're activating more senses. And you practice when you're doing dishes. You practice when you're doing dishes. You practice when you're doing dishes. You don't have to touch, but if you can don't have to touch, but if you can don't have to touch, but if you can touch um when you're doing dishes, when touch um when you're doing dishes, when touch um when you're doing dishes, when you're driving, if not, you know, any you're driving, if not, you know, any you're driving, if not, you know, any every hour on the hour, whatever tricks, every hour on the hour, whatever tricks, every hour on the hour, whatever tricks, however often you can to try to count however often you can to try to count however often you can to try to count four, a balanced breath, it just means four, a balanced breath, it just means four, a balanced breath, it just means the same in is the same out. Same in is the same in is the same out. Same in is the same in is the same out. Same in is out. That's a balanced breath. And if out. That's a balanced breath. And if out. That's a balanced breath. And if you can get yourself to four, it will you can get yourself to four, it will you can get yourself to four, it will slowly start to make your life literally slowly start to make your life literally slowly start to make your life literally better. better. better. >> It regulates your nervous system. Five >> It regulates your nervous system. Five >> It regulates your nervous system. Five and a half is ideal. That's in the book and a half is ideal. That's in the book and a half is ideal. That's in the book Breath. Um, which is not life-changing Breath. Um, which is not life-changing Breath. Um, which is not life-changing book. Like you'll change everything book. Like you'll change everything book. Like you'll change everything about yourself if you read that and be about yourself if you read that and be about yourself if you read that and be like partially horrified, partially like partially horrified, partially like partially horrified, partially shamed and then really really motivated shamed and then really really motivated shamed and then really really motivated to breathe, right? Um, to breathe, right? Um, to breathe, right? Um, >> James Nester breath. Um, but if you just >> James Nester breath. Um, but if you just >> James Nester breath. Um, but if you just try practicing when you begin to breathe try practicing when you begin to breathe try practicing when you begin to breathe that your chest doesn't move.
1:19that your chest doesn't move. that your chest doesn't move. Oh, Oh, Oh, >> not until the last >> not until the last >> not until the last >> because it's all in like the belly like >> because it's all in like the belly like >> because it's all in like the belly like so your chest shouldn't so your chest shouldn't so your chest shouldn't >> so when you're breathing in your belly >> so when you're breathing in your belly >> so when you're breathing in your belly should rise first. Now we've been tuck should rise first. Now we've been tuck should rise first. Now we've been tuck holding our bellies in our whole lives holding our bellies in our whole lives holding our bellies in our whole lives so it's really hard for women. My so it's really hard for women. My so it's really hard for women. My teacher says we're going to make pot teacher says we're going to make pot teacher says we're going to make pot bellies cool again and we're like they bellies cool again and we're like they bellies cool again and we're like they were never cool. They were never cold. were never cool. They were never cold. were never cool. They were never cold. [laughter] [laughter] But breathing in through your nose But breathing in through your nose But breathing in through your nose because there's you don't make nitric because there's you don't make nitric because there's you don't make nitric oxide if you breathe through your mouth. oxide if you breathe through your mouth. oxide if you breathe through your mouth. Only through your nose Only through your nose Only through your nose >> and your nose filters the air. We all >> and your nose filters the air. We all >> and your nose filters the air. We all know there's crap in our air. know there's crap in our air. know there's crap in our air. Um, so those two things alone and Um, so those two things alone and Um, so those two things alone and there's something that's maybe science there's something that's maybe science there's something that's maybe science that says we're in a better mood if we that says we're in a better mood if we that says we're in a better mood if we breathe through our nose, but not breathe through our nose, but not breathe through our nose, but not positive about that one, so don't quote positive about that one, so don't quote positive about that one, so don't quote me. But if you breathe in through your me. But if you breathe in through your me. But if you breathe in through your nose only at the end. So belly and then chest only at the end. So belly and then chest and then side body even as you practice and then side body even as you practice and then side body even as you practice I recommend laying down for that one and I recommend laying down for that one and I recommend laying down for that one and using either your hands or like a a band
1:20using either your hands or like a a band using either your hands or like a a band >> that you can put because most people >> that you can put because most people >> that you can put because most people when I first say to do it they're like when I first say to do it they're like when I first say to do it they're like my side body is not moving >> but your diaphragm >> but your diaphragm >> they not recognize it with their own >> they not recognize it with their own >> they not recognize it with their own hands. So like having something else. hands. So like having something else. hands. So like having something else. >> No, because this is what they're >> No, because this is what they're >> No, because this is what they're breathing. breathing. breathing. [snorts] [snorts] [snorts] >> Oh, >> Oh, >> it's all up here. >> it's all up here. >> it's all up here. >> If you when you lay down and you start >> If you when you lay down and you start >> If you when you lay down and you start breathing like that, you're going to breathing like that, you're going to breathing like that, you're going to feel that like I'm oxygenating my feel that like I'm oxygenating my feel that like I'm oxygenating my fingers. Oh my gosh, how do I live all fingers. Oh my gosh, how do I live all fingers. Oh my gosh, how do I live all day without oxygenating my fingers? Um day without oxygenating my fingers? Um day without oxygenating my fingers? Um because really do it to six. Heck, move because really do it to six. Heck, move because really do it to six. Heck, move to eight. Can't It's hard to do eight to eight. Can't It's hard to do eight to eight. Can't It's hard to do eight and do dishes and talk and do other and do dishes and talk and do other and do dishes and talk and do other things. But things. But things. But >> yeah, >> yeah, >> um >> um >> um >> really lengthening your breaths >> really lengthening your breaths >> really lengthening your breaths and just do whatever you do in, do the and just do whatever you do in, do the and just do whatever you do in, do the same out. Unless you're trying to go to same out. Unless you're trying to go to same out. Unless you're trying to go to bed, then double what the out, double bed, then double what the out, double bed, then double what the out, double the exhale. Teach your body the exhale. Teach your body the exhale. Teach your body >> to do what you want and play with it. I >> to do what you want and play with it. I >> to do what you want and play with it. I have lots of exercises I'm happy to send have lots of exercises I'm happy to send have lots of exercises I'm happy to send you. But just the basics, you. But just the basics, you. But just the basics, >> you know, just the basics is amazing
1:21>> you know, just the basics is amazing >> you know, just the basics is amazing what we can do with our with our um the what we can do with our with our um the what we can do with our with our um the one I told the one I mentioned earlier one I told the one I mentioned earlier one I told the one I mentioned earlier is your prefrontal cortex will shut down is your prefrontal cortex will shut down is your prefrontal cortex will shut down and so your subconscious mind comes out and so your subconscious mind comes out and so your subconscious mind comes out to play which really isn't playing. I I to play which really isn't playing. I I to play which really isn't playing. I I feel after doing over a hundred of these feel after doing over a hundred of these feel after doing over a hundred of these that the message people get is from that the message people get is from that the message people get is from their soul. like what your soul went to. their soul. like what your soul went to. their soul. like what your soul went to. Yeah. Because we live in the programs Yeah. Because we live in the programs Yeah. Because we live in the programs that were set up, you know, before we that were set up, you know, before we that were set up, you know, before we were five. were five. were five. >> And 95% of our everything comes from >> And 95% of our everything comes from >> And 95% of our everything comes from that. And so when that shuts down that. And so when that shuts down that. And so when that shuts down >> and it's the DMT is released very >> and it's the DMT is released very >> and it's the DMT is released very similarly to um IASA, but this is all similarly to um IASA, but this is all similarly to um IASA, but this is all natural from your own body and brain. So natural from your own body and brain. So natural from your own body and brain. So you're very aware. You're al you're very you're very aware. You're al you're very you're very aware. You're al you're very aware the whole time. Um, aware the whole time. Um, aware the whole time. Um, but what comes out, we don't I don't but what comes out, we don't I don't but what comes out, we don't I don't have it. I don't know what's going to have it. I don't know what's going to have it. I don't know what's going to come out. You don't know what's going to come out. You don't know what's going to come out. You don't know what's going to come out, come out, come out, >> but there's a message and it's usually >> but there's a message and it's usually >> but there's a message and it's usually just what you need,
1:22just what you need, just what you need, >> you know. >> you know. >> you know. >> Wow. >> Wow. >> It's pretty pretty powerful. But we had >> It's pretty pretty powerful. But we had >> It's pretty pretty powerful. But we had in the 60s in the 60s in the 60s there were psychiatrists that were deal there were psychiatrists that were deal there were psychiatrists that were deal doing things with psychedelics and the doing things with psychedelics and the doing things with psychedelics and the government said no more. We'd stop. So government said no more. We'd stop. So government said no more. We'd stop. So they went all around the world to they went all around the world to they went all around the world to different cultures and said we know that different cultures and said we know that different cultures and said we know that you you you use different states of consciousness in use different states of consciousness in use different states of consciousness in lots of your rituals. everyone but the lots of your rituals. everyone but the lots of your rituals. everyone but the western US, right? They use other states western US, right? They use other states western US, right? They use other states of consciousness in rituals and it's a of consciousness in rituals and it's a of consciousness in rituals and it's a valued experience and so they develop valued experience and so they develop valued experience and so they develop this type of breath work without using this type of breath work without using this type of breath work without using drugs and um yeah so we have a lot of drugs and um yeah so we have a lot of drugs and um yeah so we have a lot of power power power >> what's that >> what's that >> what's that >> like have you done it yourself or you've >> like have you done it yourself or you've >> like have you done it yourself or you've just guided people in it? No, I had to. just guided people in it? No, I had to. just guided people in it? No, I had to. Yeah, in my training. Yeah, in my training. Yeah, in my training. >> I didn't know I was doing it the day I >> I didn't know I was doing it the day I >> I didn't know I was doing it the day I was doing it. And she's like, "Okay, now was doing it. And she's like, "Okay, now was doing it. And she's like, "Okay, now you're going to do yours." And I was you're going to do yours." And I was you're going to do yours." And I was like, my whole body said, "No."
1:23like, my whole body said, "No." like, my whole body said, "No." >> I said, "Oh, no, no, I'm not ready." And >> I said, "Oh, no, no, I'm not ready." And >> I said, "Oh, no, no, I'm not ready." And she goes, "What are you talking about? she goes, "What are you talking about? she goes, "What are you talking about? You're not ready. You're in training and You're not ready. You're in training and You're not ready. You're in training and I'm your teacher." Basically, is what I'm your teacher." Basically, is what I'm your teacher." Basically, is what she said. Now go. And I was just like, she said. Now go. And I was just like, she said. Now go. And I was just like, "I don't think it's a good day. I don't "I don't think it's a good day. I don't "I don't think it's a good day. I don't I don't think I'm ready." And she was I don't think I'm ready." And she was I don't think I'm ready." And she was like, like, >> "Today is the day." >> "Today is the day." >> "Today is the day." >> Yeah. Yeah. And it was I it was the most >> Yeah. Yeah. And it was I it was the most >> Yeah. Yeah. And it was I it was the most transformational transformational transformational healing experience I've ever had in healing experience I've ever had in healing experience I've ever had in this, you know, field of sematic. I felt this, you know, field of sematic. I felt this, you know, field of sematic. I felt like I left the ground. I'm not sure. I like I left the ground. I'm not sure. I like I left the ground. I'm not sure. I don't know. But um no one was here to don't know. But um no one was here to don't know. But um no one was here to witness, but I felt like I left the witness, but I felt like I left the witness, but I felt like I left the ground. ground. ground. And um And um yeah, it was extremely powerful. Um I've yeah, it was extremely powerful. Um I've yeah, it was extremely powerful. Um I've now I do them for myself. But um now I do them for myself. But um now I do them for myself. But um >> like by yourself you'll just you just >> like by yourself you'll just you just >> like by yourself you'll just you just know like the breathing. Oh, that's know like the breathing. Oh, that's know like the breathing. Oh, that's pretty cool. pretty cool. pretty cool. >> Yeah, it it gets confusing because the >> Yeah, it it gets confusing because the >> Yeah, it it gets confusing because the music is loud and um it includes a music is loud and um it includes a music is loud and um it includes a sematic scream where you hold a pillow sematic scream where you hold a pillow
1:24sematic scream where you hold a pillow over your own head and you scream like over your own head and you scream like over your own head and you scream like you scream. And you scream. And you scream. And >> sometimes I'll get confused like where's >> sometimes I'll get confused like where's >> sometimes I'll get confused like where's my song? I know what song it is. And my song? I know what song it is. And my song? I know what song it is. And then I'll like just scream too soon like then I'll like just scream too soon like then I'll like just scream too soon like because you're out of it, right? Like because you're out of it, right? Like because you're out of it, right? Like >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> I don't have a guide to to >> I don't have a guide to to >> I don't have a guide to to cue me, you know, to tell you the next cue me, you know, to tell you the next cue me, you know, to tell you the next song is the you know, so I get a little song is the you know, so I get a little song is the you know, so I get a little flust. I get a little But I'm out of it. flust. I get a little But I'm out of it. flust. I get a little But I'm out of it. I'm fine. Um I'm fine. Um I'm fine. Um >> Yeah. >> Um Yeah. Wow. I'm gonna have to try that Yeah. Wow. I'm gonna have to try that Yeah. Wow. I'm gonna have to try that one of these days. I mean, I get guided one of these days. I mean, I get guided one of these days. I mean, I get guided though. I want to do it by myself. though. I want to do it by myself. though. I want to do it by myself. >> Yeah, >> Yeah, >> that would be great. Oh my goodness. >> that would be great. Oh my goodness. >> that would be great. Oh my goodness. That sounds amazing. That sounds amazing. That sounds amazing. >> Yeah, it's interesting for sure. >> Yeah, it's interesting for sure. >> Yeah, it's interesting for sure. [laughter] [laughter] >> Yeah. >> Yeah. H. Is there a certain name to for it or H. Is there a certain name to for it or H. Is there a certain name to for it or is it just like is it just like is it just like >> So, I'm I named it ice cream. My teacher >> So, I'm I named it ice cream. My teacher >> So, I'm I named it ice cream. My teacher called it scream work. called it scream work. called it scream work. >> Mine's my program is called ice cream. >> Mine's my program is called ice cream. >> Mine's my program is called ice cream. It's uh mine is breath work with a
1:25It's uh mine is breath work with a It's uh mine is breath work with a sematic scream followed by ice bath to sematic scream followed by ice bath to sematic scream followed by ice bath to just kind of just kind of just kind of >> really it's a cherry on top, right? to >> really it's a cherry on top, right? to >> really it's a cherry on top, right? to regulate your nervous system. Yeah. But regulate your nervous system. Yeah. But regulate your nervous system. Yeah. But I do it um vis I do it now. I do it I do it um vis I do it now. I do it I do it um vis I do it now. I do it >> virtually as well. So >> virtually as well. So >> virtually as well. So >> yeah, >> yeah, >> there's no ice bath with that one. >> there's no ice bath with that one. >> there's no ice bath with that one. >> Yeah, [laughter] >> Yeah, [laughter] >> Yeah, [laughter] >> obviously >> obviously >> obviously >> because so many people were asking me >> because so many people were asking me >> because so many people were asking me about it. I said, I'm going to see if I about it. I said, I'm going to see if I about it. I said, I'm going to see if I can figure out because I didn't do an can figure out because I didn't do an can figure out because I didn't do an ice bath with mine, right? My teacher ice bath with mine, right? My teacher ice bath with mine, right? My teacher doesn't give ice baths with hers. So I doesn't give ice baths with hers. So I doesn't give ice baths with hers. So I started doing it on Zoom and yeah, same started doing it on Zoom and yeah, same started doing it on Zoom and yeah, same experience. I mean, I can't touch you experience. I mean, I can't touch you experience. I mean, I can't touch you from what I hear, but I haven't had from what I hear, but I haven't had from what I hear, but I haven't had anyone complain about that. anyone complain about that. anyone complain about that. >> So, that's awesome. It's powerful. And >> So, that's awesome. It's powerful. And >> So, that's awesome. It's powerful. And mine, like I said, mine was that way. mine, like I said, mine was that way. mine, like I said, mine was that way. So, um it's pretty powerful. So, um it's pretty powerful. So, um it's pretty powerful. >> Yeah. Oh, yours was through like a Zoom >> Yeah. Oh, yours was through like a Zoom >> Yeah. Oh, yours was through like a Zoom as well. as well. as well. >> Yeah. Yeah. My teachers in Colorado. >> Yeah. Yeah. My teachers in Colorado. >> Yeah. Yeah. My teachers in Colorado. >> Oh, how cool. >> Oh, how cool. >> Oh, how cool. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. Wow. >> Yeah. Wow. >> Yeah. Wow. >> She didn't record it. I'm like, I want >> She didn't record it. I'm like, I want >> She didn't record it. I'm like, I want to see. She's like, I didn't record it. to see. She's like, I didn't record it. to see. She's like, I didn't record it. [laughter]
1:26[laughter] >> Dang it. I go, I feel like my I left the >> Dang it. I go, I feel like my I left the >> Dang it. I go, I feel like my I left the ground. I feel like I left the ground. ground. I feel like I left the ground. ground. I feel like I left the ground. And then my journal entry after is like And then my journal entry after is like And then my journal entry after is like bizarre to read. Like, wow. bizarre to read. Like, wow. bizarre to read. Like, wow. >> Goodness. >> Goodness. >> Goodness. >> Oh, wow. Wow. Because, you know, it's >> Oh, wow. Wow. Because, you know, it's >> Oh, wow. Wow. Because, you know, it's more like a dream. You know, when you more like a dream. You know, when you more like a dream. You know, when you wake up from a dream and you're like, wake up from a dream and you're like, wake up from a dream and you're like, I'm not going to forget this dream. And I'm not going to forget this dream. And I'm not going to forget this dream. And then you go to the bathroom and you're then you go to the bathroom and you're then you go to the bathroom and you're like, like, >> I forgot the dream. Yeah. It's kind of >> I forgot the dream. Yeah. It's kind of >> I forgot the dream. Yeah. It's kind of that state, you know? that state, you know? that state, you know? >> It's like sand like slipping through >> It's like sand like slipping through >> It's like sand like slipping through your fingers. You're like trying to your fingers. You're like trying to your fingers. You're like trying to grasp it, but it's like, nope, it's grasp it, but it's like, nope, it's grasp it, but it's like, nope, it's going. I had messages from one of my going. I had messages from one of my going. I had messages from one of my husband and they were really strong. husband and they were really strong. husband and they were really strong. Now, I don't believe that he came like I Now, I don't believe that he came like I Now, I don't believe that he came like I >> my personal opinion is hopefully he I >> my personal opinion is hopefully he I >> my personal opinion is hopefully he I don't think he's waiting for to come don't think he's waiting for to come don't think he's waiting for to come send me a message, right? Like that does send me a message, right? Like that does send me a message, right? Like that does not sound like heaven to me. [laughter] not sound like heaven to me. [laughter] not sound like heaven to me. [laughter] >> Waiting and watching for an opportunity >> Waiting and watching for an opportunity >> Waiting and watching for an opportunity to pop in. Um [laughter] to pop in. Um [laughter] to pop in. Um [laughter] it just doesn't. So, but again, it's my it just doesn't. So, but again, it's my it just doesn't. So, but again, it's my subconscious that gave me the message, subconscious that gave me the message, subconscious that gave me the message, right? That's the science of it. And so right? That's the science of it. And so right? That's the science of it. And so it's something I've known.
1:27it's something I've known. it's something I've known. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> That I never let myself >> That I never let myself >> That I never let myself >> know, you know. So, >> know, you know. So, >> know, you know. So, and that was very um heartbreaking. At and that was very um heartbreaking. At and that was very um heartbreaking. At the same time, gave me a lot of peace. the same time, gave me a lot of peace. the same time, gave me a lot of peace. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Like I needed to know that. And then at >> Like I needed to know that. And then at >> Like I needed to know that. And then at the same time, I guess I've always known the same time, I guess I've always known the same time, I guess I've always known that, that, that, >> but I never let it out. I never let it >> but I never let it out. I never let it >> but I never let it out. I never let it pass that pass that pass that >> barrier of the subconscious. Yeah. It's >> barrier of the subconscious. Yeah. It's >> barrier of the subconscious. Yeah. It's like you needed just to hear it. like you needed just to hear it. like you needed just to hear it. >> Yeah. So, I got the message loud and >> Yeah. So, I got the message loud and >> Yeah. So, I got the message loud and clear and it was so settling. clear and it was so settling. clear and it was so settling. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Gosh, I would be nervous. I'd be like I >> Gosh, I would be nervous. I'd be like I >> Gosh, I would be nervous. I'd be like I don't know, hearing hearing something don't know, hearing hearing something don't know, hearing hearing something awful or something. I think I just awful or something. I think I just awful or something. I think I just >> I don't think awful can come. I mean, I >> I don't think awful can come. I mean, I >> I don't think awful can come. I mean, I don't uh I So, I always say could you don't uh I So, I always say could you don't uh I So, I always say could you could be crying, you could be laughing, could be crying, you could be laughing, could be crying, you could be laughing, who knows? But I hadn't seen you laugh. who knows? But I hadn't seen you laugh. who knows? But I hadn't seen you laugh. And a woman came to me that had a very And a woman came to me that had a very And a woman came to me that had a very traumatic traumatic traumatic her brother had had traumatic experience her brother had had traumatic experience her brother had had traumatic experience and I think that she was is really and I think that she was is really and I think that she was is really worried. I didn't know this at the time
1:28worried. I didn't know this at the time worried. I didn't know this at the time but she was laughing through her but she was laughing through her but she was laughing through her experience and I was like what is experience and I was like what is experience and I was like what is happening? I I don't say that at the happening? I I don't say that at the happening? I I don't say that at the time but afterwards she said I saw my my time but afterwards she said I saw my my time but afterwards she said I saw my my son grow up. She said I was like I was son grow up. She said I was like I was son grow up. She said I was like I was doing dishes and he kept walking past doing dishes and he kept walking past doing dishes and he kept walking past the window getting older and older. Oh, the window getting older and older. Oh, the window getting older and older. Oh, how strange. how strange. how strange. >> So, she saw her son grow up without >> So, she saw her son grow up without >> So, she saw her son grow up without having the traumatic experience that her having the traumatic experience that her having the traumatic experience that her little brother had. little brother had. little brother had. >> And so, that was her worry. That's her >> And so, that was her worry. That's her >> And so, that was her worry. That's her big that's her big monster fear, right? big that's her big monster fear, right? big that's her big monster fear, right? That her son would have um That her son would have um That her son would have um >> a bad experience. And she said, "I >> a bad experience. And she said, "I >> a bad experience. And she said, "I watched him grow up." And she was just watched him grow up." And she was just watched him grow up." And she was just so happy. And I was like, "That's not so happy. And I was like, "That's not so happy. And I was like, "That's not even what?" Because I do say, "What's even what?" Because I do say, "What's even what?" Because I do say, "What's your intention?" We do talk about your intention?" We do talk about your intention?" We do talk about intention. You can set your intention, intention. You can set your intention, intention. You can set your intention, but it doesn't mean that's what your but it doesn't mean that's what your but it doesn't mean that's what your soul needs you to know, right? soul needs you to know, right? soul needs you to know, right? >> Yeah. Um, so I did meet a woman who'd >> Yeah. Um, so I did meet a woman who'd >> Yeah. Um, so I did meet a woman who'd had two husbands die like I had and we had two husbands die like I had and we had two husbands die like I had and we were in a setting where I shouldn't have were in a setting where I shouldn't have were in a setting where I shouldn't have probably done this, but we were in a probably done this, but we were in a probably done this, but we were in a retreat somewhere else and I said, "Do retreat somewhere else and I said, "Do retreat somewhere else and I said, "Do you want to go in the bedroom and do
1:29you want to go in the bedroom and do you want to go in the bedroom and do this thing?" She's like, "I do." I was this thing?" She's like, "I do." I was this thing?" She's like, "I do." I was like, "All right." So, we did. And she like, "All right." So, we did. And she like, "All right." So, we did. And she had really nice resolution with had really nice resolution with had really nice resolution with because she had some really some because she had some really some because she had some really some conflict in her own mind, headsp space conflict in her own mind, headsp space conflict in her own mind, headsp space about grieving one and not the other. about grieving one and not the other. about grieving one and not the other. and you know and you know and you know >> some some conflict and it came and she >> some some conflict and it came and she >> some some conflict and it came and she had abandonment issues and it really had abandonment issues and it really had abandonment issues and it really played out nicely that she played out nicely that she played out nicely that she >> basically the same thing her soul came >> basically the same thing her soul came >> basically the same thing her soul came and told her and told her and told her >> you know >> you know >> you know you know gave birth but you're on the you know gave birth but you're on the you know gave birth but you're on the right path and you're doing the right right path and you're doing the right right path and you're doing the right thing and thing and thing and >> yeah so >> yeah so >> yeah so >> it's just really beautiful to witness >> it's just really beautiful to witness >> it's just really beautiful to witness yeah yeah yeah >> we know we know this is one of the >> we know we know this is one of the >> we know we know this is one of the things I talk about in the journaling things I talk about in the journaling things I talk about in the journaling program is we know so much. We have program is we know so much. We have program is we know so much. We have universal consciousness that's with us universal consciousness that's with us universal consciousness that's with us from everyone that came before whatever from everyone that came before whatever from everyone that came before whatever you believe you believe you believe >> there, right? We wouldn't all be afraid >> there, right? We wouldn't all be afraid >> there, right? We wouldn't all be afraid of snakes if it wasn't there, [laughter] of snakes if it wasn't there, [laughter] of snakes if it wasn't there, [laughter] >> right? >> right? >> right? >> But then we all have our own lessons,
1:30>> But then we all have our own lessons, >> But then we all have our own lessons, our own life lessons our own life lessons our own life lessons >> that we've learned the hard way or the >> that we've learned the hard way or the >> that we've learned the hard way or the easy way. Mostly the hard way. And those easy way. Mostly the hard way. And those easy way. Mostly the hard way. And those two things together come to with all two things together come to with all two things together come to with all this wisdom. this wisdom. this wisdom. But we're so busy, we make ourselves so But we're so busy, we make ourselves so But we're so busy, we make ourselves so busy dayto day on that hamster wheel busy dayto day on that hamster wheel busy dayto day on that hamster wheel that we don't actually listen to that that we don't actually listen to that that we don't actually listen to that wisdom. Like we're disconnected from our wisdom. Like we're disconnected from our wisdom. Like we're disconnected from our own our our heart really. We're own our our heart really. We're own our our heart really. We're disconnected. disconnected. disconnected. >> Um makes you connect. Journaling makes >> Um makes you connect. Journaling makes >> Um makes you connect. Journaling makes you connect. I'm watching younger girls you connect. I'm watching younger girls you connect. I'm watching younger girls now that I'm older. now that I'm older. now that I'm older. >> There's a red flag >> There's a red flag >> There's a red flag going towards it. I'm like, you're going towards it. I'm like, you're going towards it. I'm like, you're disconnected. Yeah, disconnected. Yeah, disconnected. Yeah, >> the flag is on fire. >> the flag is on fire. >> the flag is on fire. >> That's a hazard. >> That's a hazard. >> That's a hazard. >> Don't go that way. You're When I When >> Don't go that way. You're When I When >> Don't go that way. You're When I When you see a red flag, you need to go the you see a red flag, you need to go the you see a red flag, you need to go the other way. And they're like, I just want other way. And they're like, I just want other way. And they're like, I just want to see it. to see it. to see it. >> I'm like, you shouldn't want to see it. >> I'm like, you shouldn't want to see it. >> I'm like, you shouldn't want to see it. [laughter] [laughter] >> The reason it's a red flag is because >> The reason it's a red flag is because >> The reason it's a red flag is because you already know it's bad. you already know it's bad. you already know it's bad. >> It's because whatever experiences you've >> It's because whatever experiences you've >> It's because whatever experiences you've had, you already know that's bad. Why
1:31had, you already know that's bad. Why had, you already know that's bad. Why would you? would you? would you? >> And so, I think that we're just so out >> And so, I think that we're just so out >> And so, I think that we're just so out of touch with our own messages, our own of touch with our own messages, our own of touch with our own messages, our own innate innate innate knowing. Yeah. Um, after my husband knowing. Yeah. Um, after my husband knowing. Yeah. Um, after my husband died, he I'd had bad relationships died, he I'd had bad relationships died, he I'd had bad relationships and divorce, and divorce, and divorce, he came along and was a good man. he came along and was a good man. he came along and was a good man. >> After he died, I went backwards. >> After he died, I went backwards. >> After he died, I went backwards. >> I was like, I forgot all the lessons >> I was like, I forgot all the lessons >> I was like, I forgot all the lessons that got me to get to the good man. that got me to get to the good man. that got me to get to the good man. >> Yeah. I regressed back to aggressive and >> Yeah. I regressed back to aggressive and >> Yeah. I regressed back to aggressive and abusive and like it took me years to abusive and like it took me years to abusive and like it took me years to undo what I the damage that I forgot undo what I the damage that I forgot undo what I the damage that I forgot because I wasn't paying attention. because I wasn't paying attention. because I wasn't paying attention. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. And it's like a lot of us will we'll And it's like a lot of us will we'll And it's like a lot of us will we'll know the answers, but it's like like you know the answers, but it's like like you know the answers, but it's like like you said, we're so busy said, we're so busy said, we're so busy >> with so much outside noise that we don't >> with so much outside noise that we don't >> with so much outside noise that we don't just just just >> we don't give ourselves the chance to be >> we don't give ourselves the chance to be >> we don't give ourselves the chance to be still and then just just to listen. And
1:32still and then just just to listen. And still and then just just to listen. And it's not like it's going to be like this it's not like it's going to be like this it's not like it's going to be like this big loud voice on a speaker phone or big loud voice on a speaker phone or big loud voice on a speaker phone or something being like ah, you know, something being like ah, you know, something being like ah, you know, telling you the answer, but it's like I telling you the answer, but it's like I telling you the answer, but it's like I feel like in in our gut we just feel like in in our gut we just feel like in in our gut we just >> it's our inner gut. It's our inner >> it's our inner gut. It's our inner >> it's our inner gut. It's our inner >> it feels good. It doesn't it's not like >> it feels good. It doesn't it's not like >> it feels good. It doesn't it's not like it's going to be, you know, oh, this it's going to be, you know, oh, this it's going to be, you know, oh, this doesn't I don't know. It's like no, doesn't I don't know. It's like no, doesn't I don't know. It's like no, there's always um there's always um there's always um like just just a 100% like it just feels like just just a 100% like it just feels like just just a 100% like it just feels good and that's the answer or whatever good and that's the answer or whatever good and that's the answer or whatever the case is. It's not like there's no the case is. It's not like there's no the case is. It's not like there's no questioning that comes with it. And I questioning that comes with it. And I questioning that comes with it. And I think it's think it's think it's >> Yeah, we'll get in our own head to be >> Yeah, we'll get in our own head to be >> Yeah, we'll get in our own head to be like, "Oh, is it?" And then, like, "Oh, is it?" And then, like, "Oh, is it?" And then, >> you know, then we end up disconnecting >> you know, then we end up disconnecting >> you know, then we end up disconnecting and then, you know, and then, you know, and then, you know, >> I could be wrong. >> I could be wrong. >> I could be wrong. >> Yeah. [laughter] >> Yeah. [laughter] try to try to try to >> outside stuff like stuff that's in this >> outside stuff like stuff that's in this >> outside stuff like stuff that's in this world of like oh this is why it's right world of like oh this is why it's right world of like oh this is why it's right and why I think it's right and then and why I think it's right and then and why I think it's right and then we'll try to we'll try to we'll try to >> try to piece it with that it's like no >> try to piece it with that it's like no >> try to piece it with that it's like no sometimes we just have to sometimes we just have to sometimes we just have to >> what is uh what is his name the um Jean >> what is uh what is his name the um Jean >> what is uh what is his name the um Jean code what is his name he says easy is code what is his name he says easy is code what is his name he says easy is right
1:33right >> oh oh I don't know I've heard of that >> oh oh I don't know I've heard of that >> oh oh I don't know I've heard of that though though though >> easy is right so when you're looking at >> easy is right so when you're looking at >> easy is right so when you're looking at two decisions and one feels doesn't mean two decisions and one feels doesn't mean two decisions and one feels doesn't mean easy like so simple like you easy like so simple like you easy like so simple like you the e the easy way like a cheater like a the e the easy way like a cheater like a the e the easy way like a cheater like a you know like you know like you know like >> that but easy is right when it feels >> that but easy is right when it feels >> that but easy is right when it feels like this is the way and it's an easy like this is the way and it's an easy like this is the way and it's an easy road even if it's a hard road easy is road even if it's a hard road easy is road even if it's a hard road easy is right and that's the one that last year right and that's the one that last year right and that's the one that last year he has a free program called seven days he has a free program called seven days he has a free program called seven days of grace and I always recommend it of grace and I always recommend it of grace and I always recommend it because it's seven days and because it's seven days and because it's seven days and >> three and it's easy it's not easy at all >> three and it's easy it's not easy at all >> three and it's easy it's not easy at all it's going to challenge you to do some it's going to challenge you to do some it's going to challenge you to do some journaling and a little meditation each journaling and a little meditation each journaling and a little meditation each day. One day I think is like 30 minutes. day. One day I think is like 30 minutes. day. One day I think is like 30 minutes. But um it's easy to get through anything But um it's easy to get through anything But um it's easy to get through anything for seven days, right? You can do for seven days, right? You can do for seven days, right? You can do anything for seven days. And it's a anything for seven days. And it's a anything for seven days. And it's a really powerful um program. But he says really powerful um program. But he says really powerful um program. But he says easy is right. And you're like it s it easy is right. And you're like it s it easy is right. And you're like it s it hits so right. hits so right. hits so right. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> He also has you taking a pause every >> He also has you taking a pause every >> He also has you taking a pause every three hours. Take a pause and take three
1:34three hours. Take a pause and take three three hours. Take a pause and take three breaths and know that someone else breaths and know that someone else breaths and know that someone else around the world is doing the same thing around the world is doing the same thing around the world is doing the same thing with you. with you. with you. >> Oh my goodness. >> Oh my goodness. >> Oh my goodness. That's powerful. That's powerful. That's powerful. Yeah, sacred pause. And so when I was Yeah, sacred pause. And so when I was Yeah, sacred pause. And so when I was taking this class, I'd be like, "Oh, I'm taking this class, I'd be like, "Oh, I'm taking this class, I'd be like, "Oh, I'm talking to someone. My alarm just went talking to someone. My alarm just went talking to someone. My alarm just went off. Can I just take a second?" off. Can I just take a second?" off. Can I just take a second?" >> And I do these three breaths. >> And I do these three breaths. >> And I do these three breaths. No one said no. No one said no. No one said no. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> And they usually breathe with me. >> And they usually breathe with me. >> And they usually breathe with me. >> Oh. >> Oh. >> And then we'd have like this, "Oh my >> And then we'd have like this, "Oh my >> And then we'd have like this, "Oh my gosh, I felt so good." Right. [laughter] gosh, I felt so good." Right. [laughter] gosh, I felt so good." Right. [laughter] >> But it brings you back. It brings you >> But it brings you back. It brings you >> But it brings you back. It brings you back to that center and and reset and back to that center and and reset and back to that center and and reset and >> then it's like, oh, now I can go be with >> then it's like, oh, now I can go be with >> then it's like, oh, now I can go be with present with other people because I just present with other people because I just present with other people because I just was present with myself and was present with myself and was present with myself and >> and that's what it all is about, right? >> and that's what it all is about, right? >> and that's what it all is about, right? >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> All of it is about that coming to the >> All of it is about that coming to the >> All of it is about that coming to the present moment. present moment. present moment. >> And I think that I didn't know that >> And I think that I didn't know that >> And I think that I didn't know that before I found the cold. before I found the cold. before I found the cold. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. I was chasing,
1:35I was chasing, I was chasing, you know, I was spinning plates you know, I was spinning plates you know, I was spinning plates everywhere asking for and I was asking everywhere asking for and I was asking everywhere asking for and I was asking for help by acting out or, for help by acting out or, for help by acting out or, you know, having problems, more problem. you know, having problems, more problem. you know, having problems, more problem. Let's have another problem. Oh, there's Let's have another problem. Oh, there's Let's have another problem. Oh, there's a problem. Great. I'll take it. Um, and a problem. Great. I'll take it. Um, and a problem. Great. I'll take it. Um, and then my life got, you know, better. I then my life got, you know, better. I then my life got, you know, better. I got, you get older, you just can't have got, you get older, you just can't have got, you get older, you just can't have the time for some of that drama. the time for some of that drama. the time for some of that drama. [laughter] [laughter] But I still But I still But I still struggled, you know, and it was like I struggled, you know, and it was like I struggled, you know, and it was like I was my own worst enemy. And it took was my own worst enemy. And it took was my own worst enemy. And it took getting quiet getting quiet getting quiet and taking the time to put things down and taking the time to put things down and taking the time to put things down and and drive to the beach. drive to the beach. drive to the beach. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> And take the 10 minutes, you know, it's >> And take the 10 minutes, you know, it's >> And take the 10 minutes, you know, it's really a short amount of time. really a short amount of time. really a short amount of time. >> Yeah. So, I'm hoping that my taps >> Yeah. So, I'm hoping that my taps >> Yeah. So, I'm hoping that my taps together's next week and I'm hoping that together's next week and I'm hoping that together's next week and I'm hoping that um I can get it into bigger, um I can get it into bigger, um I can get it into bigger, you know, more people with taps just you know, more people with taps just you know, more people with taps just because they have a lot of people that because they have a lot of people that because they have a lot of people that need need need >> Yeah, absolutely.
1:36>> Yeah, absolutely. >> Yeah, absolutely. >> Yeah. So, was one of your husbands or >> Yeah. So, was one of your husbands or >> Yeah. So, was one of your husbands or was both of your husbands that passed was both of your husbands that passed was both of your husbands that passed away in the service? away in the service? away in the service? >> Both of them. Okay. I thought so. Yeah. >> Both of them. Okay. I thought so. Yeah. >> Both of them. Okay. I thought so. Yeah. >> So, it's a funny story. I wrote a paper >> So, it's a funny story. I wrote a paper >> So, it's a funny story. I wrote a paper once in college and my teacher corrected once in college and my teacher corrected once in college and my teacher corrected the paper for me because the paper for me because the paper for me because I I said it properly but it's such a I I said it properly but it's such a I I said it properly but it's such a strange story but my I was married to my strange story but my I was married to my strange story but my I was married to my high school sweetheart who joined the um high school sweetheart who joined the um high school sweetheart who joined the um force recon marines. force recon marines. force recon marines. >> We divorced we had a child and we >> We divorced we had a child and we >> We divorced we had a child and we divorced. divorced. divorced. I married a few years later to a special I married a few years later to a special I married a few years later to a special forces soldier. forces soldier. forces soldier. He died 42 days after we were married. He died 42 days after we were married. He died 42 days after we were married. Oh my gosh. Then Then two years, three years later, two years, three years later, two years, three years later, the knock on the door happened again the knock on the door happened again the knock on the door happened again and I opened the door. I didn't think we'd talk about this. And
1:37I didn't think we'd talk about this. And [clears throat] there's the casualty [clears throat] there's the casualty [clears throat] there's the casualty assistance officer. assistance officer. assistance officer. >> I know what that I know what that is. >> I know what that I know what that is. >> I know what that I know what that is. Yeah, Yeah, Yeah, the first time I even knew, even though the first time I even knew, even though the first time I even knew, even though I didn't know, like my body my body I didn't know, like my body my body I didn't know, like my body my body reacted and I was like, "I'm sorry." reacted and I was like, "I'm sorry." reacted and I was like, "I'm sorry." They said, "Can we come in?" And I said, They said, "Can we come in?" And I said, They said, "Can we come in?" And I said, "No, I'm cleaning my house. My husband's "No, I'm cleaning my house. My husband's "No, I'm cleaning my house. My husband's coming home in two days." And uh they're coming home in two days." And uh they're coming home in two days." And uh they're like, "No, we're coming in." I said, like, "No, we're coming in." I said, like, "No, we're coming in." I said, "No, you can't." I tried to not let them "No, you can't." I tried to not let them "No, you can't." I tried to not let them in. Anyway, so when this one came, in. Anyway, so when this one came, in. Anyway, so when this one came, I I just said, "No, no." I I just said, "No, no." I I just said, "No, no." >> Yeah. And she said, "I have to," she >> Yeah. And she said, "I have to," she >> Yeah. And she said, "I have to," she came not because of me, because of my came not because of me, because of my came not because of me, because of my daughter, right? Because I was I was not daughter, right? Because I was I was not daughter, right? Because I was I was not his wife anymore. his wife anymore. his wife anymore. >> But she had came because of my daughter. >> But she had came because of my daughter. >> But she had came because of my daughter. >> And so she was not home. She was at >> And so she was not home. She was at >> And so she was not home. She was at school. So she came in and she whatever school. So she came in and she whatever school. So she came in and she whatever she did, you know, you don't remember she did, you know, you don't remember she did, you know, you don't remember that. that. >> And I just went I had a sunken living >> And I just went I had a sunken living >> And I just went I had a sunken living room. I just went and laid on the floor room. I just went and laid on the floor room. I just went and laid on the floor and wailed. And I different than the
1:38and wailed. And I different than the and wailed. And I different than the first time. first time. first time. >> Yeah. Yeah, >> Yeah. Yeah, >> Yeah. Yeah, >> because I said this cannot be happening >> because I said this cannot be happening >> because I said this cannot be happening to me again. to me again. to me again. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> It doesn't matter that he was my >> It doesn't matter that he was my >> It doesn't matter that he was my ex-husband. ex-husband. ex-husband. We remained close We remained close We remained close and it was exactly the same in my body. and it was exactly the same in my body. and it was exactly the same in my body. In fact, in some ways it was worse In fact, in some ways it was worse In fact, in some ways it was worse because I already knew what was I knew because I already knew what was I knew because I already knew what was I knew what was to come if that makes sense. what was to come if that makes sense. what was to come if that makes sense. >> Yeah. And then to find out that he >> Yeah. And then to find out that he >> Yeah. And then to find out that he drowned, I went into the most rage. And drowned, I went into the most rage. And drowned, I went into the most rage. And then we went to and he was remarried. then we went to and he was remarried. then we went to and he was remarried. When we went to the viewing, his wife chose a different path than I his wife chose a different path than I did. She um I believe was on medication did. She um I believe was on medication did. She um I believe was on medication and she was and she was and she was >> Jackie very >> Jackie very >> Jackie very and had a veil on and her friends had and had a veil on and her friends had and had a veil on and her friends had her sitting somewhere her sitting somewhere her sitting somewhere >> and [snorts] I was >> and [snorts] I was >> and [snorts] I was over the casket and I was chewing him over the casket and I was chewing him over the casket and I was chewing him out [laughter] in front of all these out [laughter] in front of all these out [laughter] in front of all these people and I was like I cannot believe I
1:39people and I was like I cannot believe I people and I was like I cannot believe I was just hissing at him my rage like was just hissing at him my rage like was just hissing at him my rage like this is my only opportunity this is my only opportunity this is my only opportunity >> right? Yeah. Um, I didn't have him >> right? Yeah. Um, I didn't have him >> right? Yeah. Um, I didn't have him alone. Like I my husband I got to be alone. Like I my husband I got to be alone. Like I my husband I got to be alone with his body. This one I don't alone with his body. This one I don't alone with his body. This one I don't know if I do or not. So I just know if I do or not. So I just know if I do or not. So I just How could you? How could you? How could you? >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Why did you You knew what this did to me >> Why did you You knew what this did to me >> Why did you You knew what this did to me and your daughter last three years ago. and your daughter last three years ago. and your daughter last three years ago. How could you do this? How could you do this? How could you do this? Um and and why and you know and then her Um and and why and you know and then her Um and and why and you know and then her friends she told me her friends were friends she told me her friends were friends she told me her friends were saying hey there's a lady over there saying hey there's a lady over there saying hey there's a lady over there [laughter] [laughter] and yelling at him. She's like oh it's and yelling at him. She's like oh it's and yelling at him. She's like oh it's okay it's her ex his ex-wife. [laughter] You know now you have to laugh because You know now you have to laugh because otherwise you just cry the rest of your otherwise you just cry the rest of your otherwise you just cry the rest of your life. But life. But life. But >> yeah. >> yeah. >> Yes. It just And then after that the two >> Yes. It just And then after that the two >> Yes. It just And then after that the two were um were um were um linked like linked like linked like >> they were just always >> they were just always >> they were just always in my head. I So I was 24 the first time
1:40in my head. I So I was 24 the first time in my head. I So I was 24 the first time and then 28. and then 28. and then 28. >> Oh my gosh. >> Oh my gosh. >> I guess it was four years. So from then >> I guess it was four years. So from then >> I guess it was four years. So from then on I was a widow. on I was a widow. on I was a widow. >> Yeah. More than half. Yeah. So, it was >> Yeah. More than half. Yeah. So, it was >> Yeah. More than half. Yeah. So, it was really my identity like and they didn't really my identity like and they didn't really my identity like and they didn't have all these programs. I found out have all these programs. I found out have all these programs. I found out taps did start back then, but I didn't taps did start back then, but I didn't taps did start back then, but I didn't know that then. know that then. know that then. >> Yeah. Especially with like, you know, >> Yeah. Especially with like, you know, >> Yeah. Especially with like, you know, social media and things like that. It's social media and things like that. It's social media and things like that. It's so much easier nowadays to get in touch so much easier nowadays to get in touch so much easier nowadays to get in touch with stuff like that than than with stuff like that than than with stuff like that than than >> it was five years ago that I found out >> it was five years ago that I found out >> it was five years ago that I found out about any programs. about any programs. about any programs. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> And so, you you were mentioning about >> And so, you you were mentioning about >> And so, you you were mentioning about writing a paper and your teacher writing a paper and your teacher writing a paper and your teacher corrected you. corrected you. corrected you. >> Yeah. She's like, "Oh, you put the wrong >> Yeah. She's like, "Oh, you put the wrong >> Yeah. She's like, "Oh, you put the wrong like first husband, second husband in like first husband, second husband in like first husband, second husband in the wrong order." the wrong order." the wrong order." >> Oh, >> Oh, >> because I said both of my husbands died. >> because I said both of my husbands died. >> because I said both of my husbands died. That mean then she would think that That mean then she would think that That mean then she would think that would means the first husband died would means the first husband died would means the first husband died first. The second husband No, my second first. The second husband No, my second first. The second husband No, my second husband died first. Like she wouldn't husband died first. Like she wouldn't husband died first. Like she wouldn't freak my for me. freak my for me. freak my for me. >> I think I story. [laughter] >> I think I story. [laughter] >> I think I story. [laughter] I'm the one living it. I know my story.
1:41I'm the one living it. I know my story. I'm the one living it. I know my story. >> I got it I got it right the first time. >> I got it I got it right the first time. >> I got it I got it right the first time. >> Yeah. So, but to me it was just both of >> Yeah. So, but to me it was just both of >> Yeah. So, but to me it was just both of my husbands drawn. my husbands drawn. my husbands drawn. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. Yeah. >> Yeah. Yeah. >> And I kind of, you know, that was a >> And I kind of, you know, that was a >> And I kind of, you know, that was a shield for me for a long time. Um or a shield for me for a long time. Um or a shield for me for a long time. Um or a weapon depending on what I needed that weapon depending on what I needed that weapon depending on what I needed that day. What did I need that day, you know? day. What did I need that day, you know? day. What did I need that day, you know? >> But the shield and the weapon got really >> But the shield and the weapon got really >> But the shield and the weapon got really heavy. heavy. heavy. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> And through through cold water, it seems >> And through through cold water, it seems >> And through through cold water, it seems like it's it's helped so much. And um I like it's it's helped so much. And um I like it's it's helped so much. And um I mean it's just such an inspiration like mean it's just such an inspiration like mean it's just such an inspiration like the amount of wisdom that you have with the amount of wisdom that you have with the amount of wisdom that you have with cold water exposure and the amount of cold water exposure and the amount of cold water exposure and the amount of knowledge that you have just in that knowledge that you have just in that knowledge that you have just in that space and everything that we got to get space and everything that we got to get space and everything that we got to get from you today. Um my last question is from you today. Um my last question is from you today. Um my last question is how would you tell other people that are how would you tell other people that are how would you tell other people that are in their grief journey or you know just in their grief journey or you know just in their grief journey or you know just getting on it or wherever they're at on getting on it or wherever they're at on getting on it or wherever they're at on their journey? How would you tell them their journey? How would you tell them their journey? How would you tell them to journey on
1:42>> with the cold or in just in general? >> with the cold or in just in general? >> Either or. However you want to answer >> Either or. However you want to answer >> Either or. However you want to answer him, I would encourage people I would encourage people to find other people to find other people to find other people because I didn't. because I didn't. because I didn't. I would of course suggest cold, but I I would of course suggest cold, but I I would of course suggest cold, but I mentioned earlier I would never mentioned earlier I would never mentioned earlier I would never encourage for someone that was not encourage for someone that was not encourage for someone that was not interested. interested. interested. Um, if they have any interest at all, Um, if they have any interest at all, Um, if they have any interest at all, then I would definitely point them in then I would definitely point them in then I would definitely point them in directions for cold. But really, the directions for cold. But really, the directions for cold. But really, the isolation that grief brings on is what isolation that grief brings on is what isolation that grief brings on is what we have to get past. we have to get past. we have to get past. >> Um, >> Um, and not to count on your friends. It's a and not to count on your friends. It's a and not to count on your friends. It's a horrible thing to say, but don't count horrible thing to say, but don't count horrible thing to say, but don't count on them. It's going to be up to you, on them. It's going to be up to you, on them. It's going to be up to you, sadly, to maybe make new connections, sadly, to maybe make new connections, sadly, to maybe make new connections, and maybe it has to be a whole different and maybe it has to be a whole different and maybe it has to be a whole different group. Maybe not. I don't know. I just group. Maybe not. I don't know. I just group. Maybe not. I don't know. I just know my experience and the experience of know my experience and the experience of
1:43know my experience and the experience of a few people. But um and to not give up. a few people. But um and to not give up. a few people. But um and to not give up. There is There is There is hope and there is happiness in the hope and there is happiness in the hope and there is happiness in the future. And don't do it the way I did. I future. And don't do it the way I did. I future. And don't do it the way I did. I would tell them how I did it because it would tell them how I did it because it would tell them how I did it because it was the wrong way. And what I now know was the wrong way. And what I now know was the wrong way. And what I now know is that grief and pain and sorrow can is that grief and pain and sorrow can is that grief and pain and sorrow can live in the same room with joy and live in the same room with joy and live in the same room with joy and happiness and love. And I didn't believe happiness and love. And I didn't believe happiness and love. And I didn't believe that, that, but it's true. And so you can find all but it's true. And so you can find all but it's true. And so you can find all of those things while grieving. And of those things while grieving. And of those things while grieving. And there's no reason not to. there's no reason not to. there's no reason not to. And so and and they require help. And so and and they require help. And so and and they require help. um they require getting some help, um they require getting some help, um they require getting some help, whether that's professional help or just whether that's professional help or just whether that's professional help or just surrounding yourself with people that um surrounding yourself with people that um surrounding yourself with people that um understand where you're at and where understand where you're at and where understand where you're at and where you're coming from. That's it. That's it. >> That's so great. >> That's so great. >> That's so great. That's so great. I'm going to end