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11 Stepping into the cold with Owen Stonehouse recovery mentalhealth performance

00:00[Music] [Music] this is why i love cold therapy this is why i love cold therapy this is why i love cold therapy [Music] it saved my life everything changes everything changes when we step into the calm hey welcome when we step into the calm hey welcome when we step into the calm hey welcome to the stepping into the cold podcast to the stepping into the cold podcast to the stepping into the cold podcast it's great to have you here with us if it's great to have you here with us if it's great to have you here with us if you'd please like just to introduce you'd please like just to introduce you'd please like just to introduce yourself and tell us a little bit about yourself and tell us a little bit about yourself and tell us a little bit about what you do what you do what you do right so my name's owen i'm 23 years old right so my name's owen i'm 23 years old right so my name's owen i'm 23 years old and and and currently uh working as a joiner for a currently uh working as a joiner for a currently uh working as a joiner for a modular company modular company modular company nice uh and the podcast is called nice uh and the podcast is called nice uh and the podcast is called stepping into the cold and this is about stepping into the cold and this is about stepping into the cold and this is about cold therapy cold therapy cold therapy um and we've we've got a friend in um and we've we've got a friend in um and we've we've got a friend in common uh that put us in touch because common uh that put us in touch because common uh that put us in touch because uh you use cold therapy in your own ways uh you use cold therapy in your own ways uh you use cold therapy in your own ways and that's what we're here to discuss so and that's what we're here to discuss so and that's what we're here to discuss so firstly what got you into cold therapy firstly what got you into cold therapy firstly what got you into cold therapy what was your calling into cold therapy what was your calling into cold therapy what was your calling into cold therapy so so so basically basically basically i got my inspiration from wim hof and i got my inspiration from wim hof and i got my inspiration from wim hof and from sean really and uh but basically
01:00from sean really and uh but basically from sean really and uh but basically i suffer really bad with like anxiety i suffer really bad with like anxiety i suffer really bad with like anxiety and like and like and like uh depression overthinking that sort of uh depression overthinking that sort of uh depression overthinking that sort of stuff so and like i noticed just just stuff so and like i noticed just just stuff so and like i noticed just just from like their reactions when they was from like their reactions when they was from like their reactions when they was in the water when they got out of the in the water when they got out of the in the water when they got out of the water like how hyped they were so i was water like how hyped they were so i was water like how hyped they were so i was like i've got to get on this i've got to like i've got to get on this i've got to like i've got to get on this i've got to do it and do it and do it and honestly the first time i did it it was honestly the first time i did it it was honestly the first time i did it it was amazing like i've never looked back it's amazing like i've never looked back it's amazing like i've never looked back it's the best thing i've ever done the best thing i've ever done the best thing i've ever done nice so i've seen quite a lot of uh nice so i've seen quite a lot of uh nice so i've seen quite a lot of uh these videos you go in a big group these videos you go in a big group these videos you go in a big group like the energy is high like the energy is high like the energy is high uh and you know you you all are there uh and you know you you all are there uh and you know you you all are there supporting each other um supporting each other um supporting each other um was it that was it that type of was it that was it that type of was it that was it that type of camaraderie that sort of pulled you in camaraderie that sort of pulled you in camaraderie that sort of pulled you in he was like you know i want a piece of he was like you know i want a piece of he was like you know i want a piece of that or is it was it speaking with sean that or is it was it speaking with sean that or is it was it speaking with sean himself himself himself uh well it was uh well it was uh well it was to be honest i feel like it was the to be honest i feel like it was the to be honest i feel like it was the group really like i just i saw it and i group really like i just i saw it and i group really like i just i saw it and i was like i've got to do it because was like i've got to do it because was like i've got to do it because they're they're they're they're they're loving it they're they're they're loving it they're they're they're loving it they're absolutely loving it absolutely loving it absolutely loving it there's like no way there's any sort of
02:00there's like no way there's any sort of there's like no way there's any sort of mental health illness that could mental health illness that could mental health illness that could possibly happen with that when you're in possibly happen with that when you're in possibly happen with that when you're in that sort of environment there's no way that sort of environment there's no way that sort of environment there's no way and i thought and i thought and i thought what what way what better way to do it what what way what better way to do it what what way what better way to do it than just join and have a go than just join and have a go than just join and have a go so let's just bring it back to that that so let's just bring it back to that that so let's just bring it back to that that first time you said you was hooked talk first time you said you was hooked talk first time you said you was hooked talk us through that that process us through that that process us through that that process you was clearly on a high from from the you was clearly on a high from from the you was clearly on a high from from the videos and videos and videos and you know no no and shawn myself you know no no and shawn myself you know no no and shawn myself um and i think you guys do calisthenics um and i think you guys do calisthenics um and i think you guys do calisthenics and that together don't you and that together don't you and that together don't you yeah yeah yeah so obviously you always yeah yeah yeah so obviously you always yeah yeah yeah so obviously you always have a good laugh have a good laugh have a good laugh in the environment and was there a in the environment and was there a in the environment and was there a process of asking some questions process of asking some questions process of asking some questions beforehand or was it you just you you beforehand or was it you just you you beforehand or was it you just you you wanted in and you wanted to get involved wanted in and you wanted to get involved wanted in and you wanted to get involved yeah it was that basically um i got yeah it was that basically um i got yeah it was that basically um i got invited um to a whatsapp group where we invited um to a whatsapp group where we invited um to a whatsapp group where we all organize it and stuff and um all organize it and stuff and um all organize it and stuff and um i i just came along one day and i i just came along one day and i i just came along one day and it was amazing it was amazing it was amazing nice nice nice and did you have any of um and did you have any of um and did you have any of um sort of leading up to it uh like you
03:00sort of leading up to it uh like you sort of leading up to it uh like you said you said you suffer sometimes with said you said you suffer sometimes with said you said you suffer sometimes with anxiety anxiety anxiety did you notice any sort of um did you notice any sort of um did you notice any sort of um feelings of anxiety before like leading feelings of anxiety before like leading feelings of anxiety before like leading up to going for the first time what was up to going for the first time what was up to going for the first time what was you expecting and yeah i was uh i was you expecting and yeah i was uh i was you expecting and yeah i was uh i was really really really really quite nervous to be honest like really quite nervous to be honest like really quite nervous to be honest like it was it was six degrees outside so it was it was six degrees outside so it was it was six degrees outside so like the water wasn't gonna exactly be like the water wasn't gonna exactly be like the water wasn't gonna exactly be warm but warm but warm but no it was it was really good like i was no it was it was really good like i was no it was it was really good like i was feeling nervous and my first time i feeling nervous and my first time i feeling nervous and my first time i didn't actually go all the way and i didn't actually go all the way and i didn't actually go all the way and i couldn't couldn't couldn't okay but i got like i don't know maybe okay but i got like i don't know maybe okay but i got like i don't know maybe waist waist height and even that was waist waist height and even that was waist waist height and even that was just that was enough just that was enough just that was enough just for the the first proper exposure just for the the first proper exposure just for the the first proper exposure just to just to just to to talk us through so when like the to talk us through so when like the to talk us through so when like the whole purpose of this was i had my own whole purpose of this was i had my own whole purpose of this was i had my own transformation like i had health transformation like i had health transformation like i had health problems got into cold therapy problems got into cold therapy problems got into cold therapy got off all the meds you know living got off all the meds you know living got off all the meds you know living like a like a like a what i classed as a pain-free life yeah what i classed as a pain-free life yeah what i classed as a pain-free life yeah there's little niggles there but we have there's little niggles there but we have there's little niggles there but we have niggles every single day
04:00niggles every single day niggles every single day you know you know you know you train you get muscle soreness and you train you get muscle soreness and you train you get muscle soreness and and stuff like that whereas so it's for and stuff like that whereas so it's for and stuff like that whereas so it's for me to be off all the meds and that that me to be off all the meds and that that me to be off all the meds and that that was my one thing but what's come from was my one thing but what's come from was my one thing but what's come from that that that is a total life transformation is a total life transformation is a total life transformation you know found new purpose and passion you know found new purpose and passion you know found new purpose and passion in my life in my life in my life and so we're trying to inspire people and so we're trying to inspire people and so we're trying to inspire people and let people know that we do hit and let people know that we do hit and let people know that we do hit challenges when we're we're approaching challenges when we're we're approaching challenges when we're we're approaching or going to do it and it's to get people or going to do it and it's to get people or going to do it and it's to get people either stepping in for the first time or either stepping in for the first time or either stepping in for the first time or get them going back in because they've get them going back in because they've get them going back in because they've hit that fight or flight response and hit that fight or flight response and hit that fight or flight response and they're like i'm not doing that and now they're like i'm not doing that and now they're like i'm not doing that and now that you've just shared with us that that you've just shared with us that that you've just shared with us that you've got into your waist talk talk us you've got into your waist talk talk us you've got into your waist talk talk us through through through the process of um like going in and it the process of um like going in and it the process of um like going in and it was clearly cold if you as you said was clearly cold if you as you said was clearly cold if you as you said what was going on mentally why you why what was going on mentally why you why what was going on mentally why you why you decided to stop there uh and then you decided to stop there uh and then you decided to stop there uh and then come out and then talk us through that come out and then talk us through that come out and then talk us through that sort of how long it took you then to get sort of how long it took you then to get sort of how long it took you then to get fully in into the water and fully fully in into the water and fully fully in into the water and fully immersed
05:00immersed immersed so basically when i when i first got in uh i'd had i when i when i first got in uh i'd had i when i when i first got in uh i'd had i had no experience whatsoever with called had no experience whatsoever with called had no experience whatsoever with called so it was like so it was like so it was like a complete shock to the system but a complete shock to the system but a complete shock to the system but that's what you want that's what you want that's what you want and um and um and um basically uh i just i felt like basically uh i just i felt like basically uh i just i felt like it just completely took my breath away it just completely took my breath away it just completely took my breath away and it was that fight or flight response and it was that fight or flight response and it was that fight or flight response and and what i should have done was just what i should have done was just what i should have done was just ignored it and gone with it just ignored it and gone with it just ignored it and gone with it just completely gone with it and just completely gone with it and just completely gone with it and just like accepted the cold like accepted the cold like accepted the cold but but but like my body was just saying no like my body was just saying no like my body was just saying no however i think when you i think when you um um um so there is a point of accepting the so there is a point of accepting the so there is a point of accepting the cold and i've i've spoke to a couple of cold and i've i've spoke to a couple of cold and i've i've spoke to a couple of other guys that do your your group other guys that do your your group other guys that do your your group yeah um yeah um yeah um and i know obviously with it being a and i know obviously with it being a and i know obviously with it being a group sometimes ego takes over and that group sometimes ego takes over and that group sometimes ego takes over and that will power whereas you you listen you will power whereas you you listen you will power whereas you you listen you was more in tune with your body where
06:00was more in tune with your body where was more in tune with your body where you pulled out you pulled out you pulled out you know you took the first step which you know you took the first step which you know you took the first step which was getting in going to your waist that was getting in going to your waist that was getting in going to your waist that was your first taste and that was good was your first taste and that was good was your first taste and that was good enough that it didn't put you off and enough that it didn't put you off and enough that it didn't put you off and you went back so i wouldn't say that it you went back so i wouldn't say that it you went back so i wouldn't say that it was you should have was you should have was you should have um um surrendered to the cold for you at that surrendered to the cold for you at that surrendered to the cold for you at that time was the right thing uh so you know time was the right thing uh so you know time was the right thing uh so you know don't think that you do anything wrong don't think that you do anything wrong don't think that you do anything wrong at all it's it's what your process was at all it's it's what your process was at all it's it's what your process was and that's and that's and that's it's that's the process is we all have it's that's the process is we all have it's that's the process is we all have our own process to get in our own process to get in our own process to get in um to talk us a little bit about that um to talk us a little bit about that um to talk us a little bit about that that fight or flight response that was that fight or flight response that was that fight or flight response that was going in um and sort of why you sort of going in um and sort of why you sort of going in um and sort of why you sort of decided to come out and decided to come out and decided to come out and what did you still get an endorphin what did you still get an endorphin what did you still get an endorphin release an energy rush afterwards how release an energy rush afterwards how release an energy rush afterwards how was your feeling afterwards was your feeling afterwards was your feeling afterwards oh afterwards like oh afterwards like oh afterwards like i was uh i was uh i was uh the feeling's amazing it's like nothing the feeling's amazing it's like nothing the feeling's amazing it's like nothing else like you warm back up and you feel else like you warm back up and you feel else like you warm back up and you feel like a completely different person you
07:00like a completely different person you like a completely different person you feel like you could take on the entire feel like you could take on the entire feel like you could take on the entire world world world there's nothing nothing ever compares to there's nothing nothing ever compares to there's nothing nothing ever compares to it it it ever ever ever like like like it's it's it's like like for anyone that like i don't know for anyone that like i don't know for anyone that like i don't know suffers with any sort of anxieties suffers with any sort of anxieties suffers with any sort of anxieties depressions any sort of mental illness depressions any sort of mental illness depressions any sort of mental illness i can't recommend it enough i can't recommend it enough i can't recommend it enough because for me like it's it's there's nothing nothing that it's it's there's nothing nothing that can compare ever can compare ever can compare ever so let's let's talk a little bit so let's let's talk a little bit so let's let's talk a little bit clearly clearly you've had uh a great clearly clearly you've had uh a great clearly clearly you've had uh a great personal breakthrough personal breakthrough personal breakthrough in that in that space so in that in that space so in that in that space so let's bring it back to sort of like let's bring it back to sort of like let's bring it back to sort of like how that mental chatter was how that mental chatter was how that mental chatter was yeah pre-cold therapy yeah pre-cold therapy yeah pre-cold therapy and and let's sort of jump into it as um and and let's sort of jump into it as um and and let's sort of jump into it as um you've done a few sessions so your full you've done a few sessions so your full you've done a few sessions so your full body your whole body exposure and body your whole body exposure and body your whole body exposure and what sort of changed and where are you what sort of changed and where are you what sort of changed and where are you now so you know because you would have
08:00now so you know because you would have now so you know because you would have hit these points so yeah yeah yeah hit these points so yeah yeah yeah hit these points so yeah yeah yeah so so um after that um after that um after that uh i i think it was maybe like three uh i i think it was maybe like three uh i i think it was maybe like three days after i did an ice bath and days after i did an ice bath and days after i did an ice bath and this time i got fully in this time i got fully in this time i got fully in uh my process was i'd start on my knees uh my process was i'd start on my knees uh my process was i'd start on my knees and then slowly work my way down and and then slowly work my way down and and then slowly work my way down and just control my breathing just breathe just control my breathing just breathe just control my breathing just breathe like i normally would like i normally would like i normally would um um and yeah i just i just went from there and yeah i just i just went from there and yeah i just i just went from there like i used to do it like i used to do it like i used to do it every single day every single day after every single day every single day after every single day every single day after that that yeah because i didn't want i didn't want yeah because i didn't want i didn't want yeah because i didn't want i didn't want to not get that high to not get that high to not get that high it was it was it was the best feeling the best feeling the best feeling and uh my it's so hard to put into words just like it's indescribable you know you you talk about the the you know you you talk about the the endorphin release endorphin release endorphin release um um and
09:00and at the start as i think we all do we all at the start as i think we all do we all at the start as i think we all do we all get um get um get um so we all seem to go for a process which so we all seem to go for a process which so we all seem to go for a process which is is is first learning to accept and get first learning to accept and get first learning to accept and get comfortable with the water comfortable with the water comfortable with the water um um and that that time frame is all and that that time frame is all and that that time frame is all different for for all of us different for for all of us different for for all of us um um and and then you get the part where you and and then you get the part where you and and then you get the part where you get get get excited to go into the water and excited to go into the water and excited to go into the water and and there's different processes like we and there's different processes like we and there's different processes like we we love that that first hit a cold that we love that that first hit a cold that we love that that first hit a cold that big sort of like big sort of like big sort of like diaphragmatic breath that sort of diaphragmatic breath that sort of diaphragmatic breath that sort of captivates us and then we love captivates us and then we love captivates us and then we love how how how whatever [ __ ] we've got going on in whatever [ __ ] we've got going on in whatever [ __ ] we've got going on in our head just zoom is just instantly our head just zoom is just instantly our head just zoom is just instantly come on come on come on and so somebody and so somebody and so somebody you know i i've suffered um and still do you know i i've suffered um and still do you know i i've suffered um and still do i still get um i still get um i still get um like flashbacks of things traumatic like flashbacks of things traumatic like flashbacks of things traumatic experiences from my my injury and sort
10:00experiences from my my injury and sort experiences from my my injury and sort of the experience around that of the experience around that of the experience around that um which trigger us so um which trigger us so um which trigger us so how do you how do you use cold water how do you how do you use cold water how do you how do you use cold water therapy effectively uh around therapy effectively uh around therapy effectively uh around sort of that maintenance of your your sort of that maintenance of your your sort of that maintenance of your your anxiety is you know do you use it like anxiety is you know do you use it like anxiety is you know do you use it like for instance you've had a rubbish day for instance you've had a rubbish day for instance you've had a rubbish day will you go and have a cold shower or will you go and have a cold shower or will you go and have a cold shower or you know you know yeah so my my routine um yeah so my my routine um yeah so my my routine um is is i i go to work i i go to work i i go to work after i come home from work i'll get after i come home from work i'll get after i come home from work i'll get straight in a freezing cold shower or straight in a freezing cold shower or straight in a freezing cold shower or or an ice bath and then i'll go train or an ice bath and then i'll go train or an ice bath and then i'll go train um um but i i do but i i do but i i do i change it up occasionally because it's i change it up occasionally because it's i change it up occasionally because it's really good for um really good for um really good for um like muscle therapy as well like muscle therapy as well like muscle therapy as well yeah like for anyone that that trains yeah like for anyone that that trains yeah like for anyone that that trains like quite intensely or just in general like quite intensely or just in general like quite intensely or just in general like for aches and pains like i'll i'll like for aches and pains like i'll i'll like for aches and pains like i'll i'll have one if i'm aching like the next day have one if i'm aching like the next day have one if i'm aching like the next day i'll have one in the morning before work
11:00i'll have one in the morning before work i'll have one in the morning before work so so now it's so so so now it's so so so now it's so the the initial the initial reasons for the the initial the initial reasons for the the initial the initial reasons for stepping into the cold uh around the stepping into the cold uh around the stepping into the cold uh around the anxiety anxiety let's call it the mental health stuff let's call it the mental health stuff let's call it the mental health stuff which has been transformed to which has been transformed to which has been transformed to uh well-being and managing that process uh well-being and managing that process uh well-being and managing that process and as as life goes ups and downs so so and as as life goes ups and downs so so and as as life goes ups and downs so so do we do we do we and you you use it when you're when you and you you use it when you're when you and you you use it when you're when you feel yourself coming down you will feel yourself coming down you will feel yourself coming down you will actively use it in that space actively use it in that space actively use it in that space but what uh what i'm hearing is what but what uh what i'm hearing is what but what uh what i'm hearing is what it's also taught you is along that it's also taught you is along that it's also taught you is along that journey for further search for mental journey for further search for mental journey for further search for mental well-being well-being well-being is you've noticed how you were able to is you've noticed how you were able to is you've noticed how you were able to manage the aches and pains of manage the aches and pains of manage the aches and pains of having a tough training regime to stay having a tough training regime to stay having a tough training regime to stay in shape in shape in shape do your calisthenics and all the other do your calisthenics and all the other do your calisthenics and all the other stuff that you do stuff that you do stuff that you do which i'm assuming allows you to which i'm assuming allows you to which i'm assuming allows you to be act more active the next day and be act more active the next day and be act more active the next day and deal with those aches and pains
12:00deal with those aches and pains deal with those aches and pains is there is there is there is there any other reasons uh that is there any other reasons uh that is there any other reasons uh that you've found personally you've found personally you've found personally um that have um that have um that have come to fruition that you've noticed by come to fruition that you've noticed by come to fruition that you've noticed by getting into the cold whether it's sort getting into the cold whether it's sort getting into the cold whether it's sort of like within your personal life with of like within your personal life with of like within your personal life with your relationships with your friends your relationships with your friends your relationships with your friends your partner your your family your partner your your family your partner your your family have you noticed any difference in the have you noticed any difference in the have you noticed any difference in the way that you are whether it's your way that you are whether it's your way that you are whether it's your patients just that patients just that patients just that uh i'd be interested to know how that's uh i'd be interested to know how that's uh i'd be interested to know how that's come come come actually yeah i have because uh it actually yeah i have because uh it actually yeah i have because uh it my anxiety was affecting my relationship my anxiety was affecting my relationship my anxiety was affecting my relationship at the time and at the time and at the time and um since doing it i've um i've stopped um since doing it i've um i've stopped um since doing it i've um i've stopped the overthinking i've stopped the the the overthinking i've stopped the the the overthinking i've stopped the the what ifs and the snowball effects if you what ifs and the snowball effects if you what ifs and the snowball effects if you want to call it that and want to call it that and want to call it that and it it just it's just made me so much it it just it's just made me so much it it just it's just made me so much more in tune with my own thoughts and more in tune with my own thoughts and more in tune with my own thoughts and like my own like my own like my own like mental well-being and just my body like mental well-being and just my body like mental well-being and just my body in general in general in general yeah yeah yeah and do you know so and do you know so and do you know so have you always had a like from let's
13:00have you always had a like from let's have you always had a like from let's say from school say from school say from school uh that you've oh uh that you've oh uh that you've oh that like the over analyzing the the that like the over analyzing the the that like the over analyzing the the what if questions has that always been what if questions has that always been what if questions has that always been something that you something that you something that you have done or is it just something that have done or is it just something that have done or is it just something that as we all do as we all do as we all do you know we get on social media we're you know we get on social media we're you know we get on social media we're listening to the bs that's going on listening to the bs that's going on listening to the bs that's going on around and all the fear-mongering that's around and all the fear-mongering that's around and all the fear-mongering that's going on in the in the world today going on in the in the world today going on in the in the world today you know you know is it something that is it something is it something that is it something is it something that is it something that you've had to deal with or is it that you've had to deal with or is it that you've had to deal with or is it something that as you've grown older something that as you've grown older something that as you've grown older that's come about that's come about that's come about yeah well um i didn't i've had it like yeah well um i didn't i've had it like yeah well um i didn't i've had it like all my life pretty much but all my life pretty much but all my life pretty much but it became very very noticeable like uh it became very very noticeable like uh it became very very noticeable like uh in my late teen years yeah in my late teen years yeah in my late teen years yeah but it's but it's but it's that that was all like self-induced like that that was all like self-induced like that that was all like self-induced like i went through a period of heavily i went through a period of heavily i went through a period of heavily taking drugs and partying and you know taking drugs and partying and you know taking drugs and partying and you know just that sort of lifestyle and just that sort of lifestyle and just that sort of lifestyle and that caused that caused it to get much that caused that caused it to get much that caused that caused it to get much much worse much worse much worse yeah like the thoughts would get louder
14:00yeah like the thoughts would get louder yeah like the thoughts would get louder and uh they'd be more more like and uh they'd be more more like and uh they'd be more more like consistent and it'd be consistent and it'd be consistent and it'd be like like they'd be there quite a lot of the time they'd be there quite a lot of the time they'd be there quite a lot of the time rather than just like the occasional rather than just like the occasional rather than just like the occasional little little thing in the back of your little little thing in the back of your little little thing in the back of your mind mind mind so it's doing chord therapy has so it's doing chord therapy has so it's doing chord therapy has completely changed that it's completely completely changed that it's completely completely changed that it's completely changed everything for me changed everything for me changed everything for me yeah did you ever fight so yeah did you ever fight so yeah did you ever fight so on my on my on my like i had a life-changing injury like i had a life-changing injury like i had a life-changing injury real dark depression um real dark depression um real dark depression um and and i turn to alcohol i turn to alcohol i turn to alcohol and drugs like it's a coping mechanism and drugs like it's a coping mechanism and drugs like it's a coping mechanism and it's it's a and it's it's a and it's it's a with we're searching for for connection with we're searching for for connection with we're searching for for connection uh with ourselves and with others and we uh with ourselves and with others and we uh with ourselves and with others and we sometimes i always found that i'd go on sometimes i always found that i'd go on sometimes i always found that i'd go on these um these um these um these these these benders or these things where i'd be benders or these things where i'd be benders or these things where i'd be lashing out for whatever reason lashing out for whatever reason lashing out for whatever reason and after whatever episode had finished and after whatever episode had finished and after whatever episode had finished i would return back to bed and i'd be
15:00i would return back to bed and i'd be i would return back to bed and i'd be trying to go to sleep and i'm just trying to go to sleep and i'm just trying to go to sleep and i'm just wondering like interested to know if you wondering like interested to know if you wondering like interested to know if you would play out the same sort of stories would play out the same sort of stories would play out the same sort of stories i would of i want to change i don't want i would of i want to change i don't want i would of i want to change i don't want to be living this life why am i doing to be living this life why am i doing to be living this life why am i doing this but at the same time this but at the same time this but at the same time the the trigger was i needed connection the the trigger was i needed connection the the trigger was i needed connection i needed something different i needed something different i needed something different didn't want to be hearing these voices didn't want to be hearing these voices didn't want to be hearing these voices and all that negativity all the time and all that negativity all the time and all that negativity all the time and we escaped from it for a and we escaped from it for a and we escaped from it for a certain element or a period of time certain element or a period of time certain element or a period of time and then we come back to bed and it sort and then we come back to bed and it sort and then we come back to bed and it sort of opens our minds to that real being of opens our minds to that real being of opens our minds to that real being able to able to able to think or talk to ourselves about wanting think or talk to ourselves about wanting think or talk to ourselves about wanting change change change and that and that and that repetitive cycle sometimes can last a repetitive cycle sometimes can last a repetitive cycle sometimes can last a long time and sometimes can be a long time and sometimes can be a long time and sometimes can be a lifetime and for me cold therapy lifetime and for me cold therapy lifetime and for me cold therapy was a defining point of creating so much was a defining point of creating so much was a defining point of creating so much clarity and just giving me the mental clarity and just giving me the mental clarity and just giving me the mental space to be able to space to be able to space to be able to process the internal chatter where you
16:00process the internal chatter where you process the internal chatter where you can slow it down can slow it down can slow it down and and recognize the patterns recognize the patterns recognize the patterns of maybe what's triggering as at certain of maybe what's triggering as at certain of maybe what's triggering as at certain events events events um and one thing that really did for me um and one thing that really did for me um and one thing that really did for me was it's helped me become was it's helped me become was it's helped me become a lot more patient and that's what i a lot more patient and that's what i a lot more patient and that's what i notice a lot of people say is and i notice a lot of people say is and i notice a lot of people say is and i think that that's the one thing that we think that that's the one thing that we think that that's the one thing that we can can can bring into relationships because we bring into relationships because we bring into relationships because we don't react as quickly and i feel that don't react as quickly and i feel that don't react as quickly and i feel that it's allowed us to take more time just it's allowed us to take more time just it's allowed us to take more time just interested to know interested to know interested to know how that if something like that is how that if something like that is how that if something like that is similar played out for similar played out for similar played out for yeah yeah it definitely has i mean it definitely has i mean it definitely has i mean patience is it's patience is it's patience is it's definitely definitely improved that like definitely definitely improved that like definitely definitely improved that like 100 100 100 because like it forces you to slow down because like it forces you to slow down because like it forces you to slow down like like you have to you have to you have to yeah it's yeah it's yeah it's it's just it's just it's just wow wow wow um um oh i'm a little bit speechless to be oh i'm a little bit speechless to be oh i'm a little bit speechless to be honest
17:00honest honest yeah so yeah so yeah so so what is it uh let's let's talk about so what is it uh let's let's talk about so what is it uh let's let's talk about what you would typically do in a week um what you would typically do in a week um what you would typically do in a week um like like owen gets up what what does what's owens owen gets up what what does what's owens owen gets up what what does what's owens typical week look like and how much coal typical week look like and how much coal typical week look like and how much coal therapy comes in and now um and how do therapy comes in and now um and how do therapy comes in and now um and how do you sort of use it you sort of use it you sort of use it right so my typical week is uh i work right so my typical week is uh i work right so my typical week is uh i work monday to friday i work 39 hours a week monday to friday i work 39 hours a week monday to friday i work 39 hours a week uh i also uh i also uh i also i train about 20 25 hours a week on top i train about 20 25 hours a week on top i train about 20 25 hours a week on top of that of that of that okay okay okay and uh i get i i get a call i get a cold and uh i get i i get a call i get a cold and uh i get i i get a call i get a cold shower or an ice bath maybe five times a shower or an ice bath maybe five times a shower or an ice bath maybe five times a week five six times a week week five six times a week week five six times a week okay dude do you have like yeah before okay dude do you have like yeah before okay dude do you have like yeah before you start your days you start your days you start your days like start of a cold shower do like start of a cold shower do like start of a cold shower do a cold shower's in there or do you a cold shower's in there or do you a cold shower's in there or do you like do you prefer it as cold as you can like do you prefer it as cold as you can like do you prefer it as cold as you can get it get it get it yeah i i prefer it as cold as i can get yeah i i prefer it as cold as i can get yeah i i prefer it as cold as i can get it it and um and um do you know by any chance what's the do you know by any chance what's the do you know by any chance what's the coldest water you've ever been in coldest water you've ever been in coldest water you've ever been in because i know up where you are it can
18:00because i know up where you are it can because i know up where you are it can get it can get cold especially in the get it can get cold especially in the get it can get cold especially in the winter winter winter uh to be honest i don't know uh uh to be honest i don't know uh uh to be honest i don't know uh i don't i don't know the the degree of i don't i don't know the the degree of i don't i don't know the the degree of it to be honest it to be honest it to be honest okay i've never checked it well you said okay i've never checked it well you said okay i've never checked it well you said that you started and it was roughly that you started and it was roughly that you started and it was roughly about six degrees outside about six degrees outside about six degrees outside yeah yeah so i'm assuming we were we were coming so i'm assuming we were we were coming so i'm assuming we were we were coming into winter or it was winter into winter or it was winter into winter or it was winter yeah um yeah um so around that time um let's talk about so around that time um let's talk about so around that time um let's talk about um um that that sort of process of like going that that sort of process of like going that that sort of process of like going to all these places with the guys was it to all these places with the guys was it to all these places with the guys was it that you always went to the same place that you always went to the same place that you always went to the same place or was it sometimes that you went to or was it sometimes that you went to or was it sometimes that you went to different sort of lakes and reservoirs different sort of lakes and reservoirs different sort of lakes and reservoirs uh well uh well uh well actually i i've only ever been once with actually i i've only ever been once with actually i i've only ever been once with the guys because i i live uh the guys because i i live uh the guys because i i live uh i live in hull and the the the main bulk i live in hull and the the the main bulk i live in hull and the the the main bulk live like elsewhere they live like leeds live like elsewhere they live like leeds live like elsewhere they live like leeds yeah so it's hard for me to get the time yeah so it's hard for me to get the time yeah so it's hard for me to get the time to go up to go up to go up but i uh i tend to do
19:00but i uh i tend to do but i uh i tend to do to do a lot of uh just at home stuff to do a lot of uh just at home stuff to do a lot of uh just at home stuff because i just because i just because i just i find it hard to fit in with my i find it hard to fit in with my i find it hard to fit in with my schedule schedule schedule yeah that yeah that yeah that so just just so people are watching it's so just just so people are watching it's so just just so people are watching it's a it's a about a 90 minute to a two hour a it's a about a 90 minute to a two hour a it's a about a 90 minute to a two hour trip isn't it but yeah it's about a 90 trip isn't it but yeah it's about a 90 trip isn't it but yeah it's about a 90 minute one-way trip yeah yeah so around minute one-way trip yeah yeah so around minute one-way trip yeah yeah so around really like stop in obviously the chat really like stop in obviously the chat really like stop in obviously the chat and that's not even including the and that's not even including the and that's not even including the you know the going into the water just you know the going into the water just you know the going into the water just in the car turning around getting out in the car turning around getting out in the car turning around getting out doing whatever is it is a good four out doing whatever is it is a good four out doing whatever is it is a good four out you could wipe right up four hours you could wipe right up four hours you could wipe right up four hours so yeah so just so that people can so yeah so just so that people can so yeah so just so that people can understand uh obviously there's there's understand uh obviously there's there's understand uh obviously there's there's some travel serious travel commitment some travel serious travel commitment some travel serious travel commitment yeah yeah definitely yeah yeah definitely yeah yeah definitely so so like like it was interesting to say that obviously it was interesting to say that obviously it was interesting to say that obviously you work as a joiner uh a carpenter um you work as a joiner uh a carpenter um you work as a joiner uh a carpenter um but you you you almost but you you you almost but you you you almost uh well you said 20 about 25 hours a uh well you said 20 about 25 hours a uh well you said 20 about 25 hours a week um week um week um like training
20:00like training like training um what is it that you're um what is it that you're um what is it that you're what you're what you do what is it that what you're what you do what is it that what you're what you do what is it that you're trying what are you working you're trying what are you working you're trying what are you working towards towards towards uh so my ultimate goal is to be in the uh so my ultimate goal is to be in the uh so my ultimate goal is to be in the olympia in the olympic uh rock climbing olympia in the olympic uh rock climbing olympia in the olympic uh rock climbing team team team nice nice so i i train as much as i possibly can so i i train as much as i possibly can so i i train as much as i possibly can just to try and get there just to try and get there just to try and get there it's it's a massive massive goal of mine it's it's a massive massive goal of mine it's it's a massive massive goal of mine just uh to be in the olympics to be just uh to be in the olympics to be just uh to be in the olympics to be there to to prove to there to to prove to there to to prove to the world that someone from like a the world that someone from like a the world that someone from like a little a little town dead in town like little a little town dead in town like little a little town dead in town like from like from hull from like from hull from like from hull can actually make something of can actually make something of can actually make something of themselves themselves themselves and when at the end of this um you'll and when at the end of this um you'll and when at the end of this um you'll get you'll get your share your handle get you'll get your share your handle get you'll get your share your handle and i really recommend to people to go and i really recommend to people to go and i really recommend to people to go out and check your posts because you're out and check your posts because you're out and check your posts because you're you're climbing um up some well i you're climbing um up some well i you're climbing um up some well i wouldn't even i'd love to be able to do wouldn't even i'd love to be able to do wouldn't even i'd love to be able to do it but for me it would just be a dream it but for me it would just be a dream it but for me it would just be a dream but you know for people to go and check but you know for people to go and check but you know for people to go and check that out that out that out um um and so and so and so how that how that how that that
21:00that commitment in training commitment in training commitment in training um um is required to get to where you want to is required to get to where you want to is required to get to where you want to be be be and now i can see the importance of why and now i can see the importance of why and now i can see the importance of why coal therapy is is so important in that coal therapy is is so important in that coal therapy is is so important in that because you need to be ready to go the because you need to be ready to go the because you need to be ready to go the next day next day next day yeah recovery everything yeah recovery everything yeah recovery everything i can't i can't be sore because like i can't i can't be sore because like i can't i can't be sore because like as i say like manual labor i work hours as i say like manual labor i work hours as i say like manual labor i work hours a day and then i'll train like three a day and then i'll train like three a day and then i'll train like three four hours at least of those like four hours at least of those like four hours at least of those like every day every day every day basically like i don't really have many basically like i don't really have many basically like i don't really have many rest days i maybe have like two rest rest days i maybe have like two rest rest days i maybe have like two rest days days days okay and so okay and so okay and so you talk to your your own your ultimate you talk to your your own your ultimate you talk to your your own your ultimate goal is obviously to be in the olympics goal is obviously to be in the olympics goal is obviously to be in the olympics rock climbing yeah um let's talk about rock climbing yeah um let's talk about rock climbing yeah um let's talk about the your your whole goal um the your your whole goal um the your your whole goal um whether that includes uh carpentry or is whether that includes uh carpentry or is whether that includes uh carpentry or is it to become a professional rock climber it to become a professional rock climber it to become a professional rock climber um um you know where where are you hoping to you know where where are you hoping to you know where where are you hoping to be in the
22:00be in the be in the yeah that that is basically the uh yeah that that is basically the uh yeah that that is basically the uh the end goal i'd i'd love to do it as a the end goal i'd i'd love to do it as a the end goal i'd i'd love to do it as a for a living for a living for a living it's it's a massive massive dream of mine like a massive massive dream of mine like a massive massive dream of mine like i've got a sponsorship already but it i've got a sponsorship already but it i've got a sponsorship already but it doesn't it doesn't like doesn't it doesn't like doesn't it doesn't like pay pay pay for what i need for what i need for what i need so so i need to get that next level i need to get that next level i need to get that next level and so um and so um and so um my younger brother was in uh my younger brother was in uh my younger brother was in uh the gymnastics gb team the gymnastics gb team the gymnastics gb team uh and so i i have a little bit of an uh and so i i have a little bit of an uh and so i i have a little bit of an understanding so is there a national understanding so is there a national understanding so is there a national rock climbing team association rock climbing team association rock climbing team association the the the all the competitions all the big all the competitions all the big all the competitions all the big competitions are run by a competitions are run by a competitions are run by a society in the uk called the bmc society in the uk called the bmc society in the uk called the bmc which is the british mountaineering which is the british mountaineering which is the british mountaineering society well council sorry yeah and uh society well council sorry yeah and uh society well council sorry yeah and uh they're affiliated with um team gb uh they're affiliated with um team gb uh they're affiliated with um team gb uh and they've got their own rock climbing and they've got their own rock climbing and they've got their own rock climbing uh uh uh team team so it's uh it's
23:00so it's uh it's so it's uh it's there's quite a lot there's quite a lot there's quite a lot there's quite a lot there's quite a lot there's quite a lot of support it's just uh of support it's just uh of support it's just uh quite difficult as you can imagine to go quite difficult as you can imagine to go quite difficult as you can imagine to go up to that up to that up to that and i don't know i don't know if this and i don't know i don't know if this and i don't know i don't know if this will be a help or not but have you will be a help or not but have you will be a help or not but have you looked to see if you can access looked to see if you can access looked to see if you can access uh any grants uh any grants uh any grants uh uh no i've uh i've never looked into that no i've uh i've never looked into that no i've uh i've never looked into that to be honest yeah so i would definitely to be honest yeah so i would definitely to be honest yeah so i would definitely recommend so there's quite quite some recommend so there's quite quite some recommend so there's quite quite some good grants out there um good grants out there um good grants out there um which will help you but obviously that which will help you but obviously that which will help you but obviously that doesn't help you uh with the fact doesn't help you uh with the fact doesn't help you uh with the fact obviously obviously obviously having a a manual job having a a manual job having a a manual job i i don't know what type of joint you've i i don't know what type of joint you've i i don't know what type of joint you've been if you're doing a roof for instance been if you're doing a roof for instance been if you're doing a roof for instance uh putting all the struts up uh putting all the struts up uh putting all the struts up it can be so it's quite demanding and it can be so it's quite demanding and it can be so it's quite demanding and the last thing that you want to do let's the last thing that you want to do let's the last thing that you want to do let's say that you've been training say that you've been training say that you've been training for for for two months getting ready for a two months getting ready for a two months getting ready for a competition competition competition uh shortly and you uh shortly and you uh shortly and you injure yourself that's that's what you injure yourself that's that's what you injure yourself that's that's what you need to do is minimize any
24:00need to do is minimize any need to do is minimize any any risk of of those those areas any risk of of those those areas any risk of of those those areas and i suppose really that's and i suppose really that's and i suppose really that's that's a another calling for you where that's a another calling for you where that's a another calling for you where you obviously like when you get into you obviously like when you get into you obviously like when you get into your ice bath or whatever and you're your ice bath or whatever and you're your ice bath or whatever and you're like like you know this what keeps me going every you know this what keeps me going every you know this what keeps me going every day it allows me to day it allows me to day it allows me to turn up the next day and just turn up the next day and just turn up the next day and just keep going keep going keep going uh yeah it really does uh yeah it really does uh yeah it really does nice nice and so and so where are you where you sort of um where are you where you sort of um where are you where you sort of um you you should actually you should you you should actually you should you you should actually you should actually try our app because our app is actually try our app because our app is actually try our app because our app is all about um all about um all about um monitoring the pain the recovery monitoring the pain the recovery monitoring the pain the recovery so originally it was designed from my so originally it was designed from my so originally it was designed from my back injury back injury back injury and how i noticed that recovery because and how i noticed that recovery because and how i noticed that recovery because i noticed each time that i got into the i noticed each time that i got into the i noticed each time that i got into the water that it water that it water that it it was healing better and that pain-free it was healing better and that pain-free it was healing better and that pain-free but um but um but um my brothers use it and people we have my brothers use it and people we have my brothers use it and people we have people that use it which is about muscle people that use it which is about muscle people that use it which is about muscle recovery uh you know pre or post or
25:00recovery uh you know pre or post or recovery uh you know pre or post or making sure that you're always in making sure that you're always in making sure that you're always in tip-top condition tip-top condition tip-top condition uh so maybe maybe try it and just uh so maybe maybe try it and just uh so maybe maybe try it and just give you it will start to give you an give you it will start to give you an give you it will start to give you an idea of how quick your body recovers you idea of how quick your body recovers you idea of how quick your body recovers you already have an idea anyway but yeah it already have an idea anyway but yeah it already have an idea anyway but yeah it will give you an idea based on like will give you an idea based on like will give you an idea based on like let's say you put four bags of ice in let's say you put four bags of ice in let's say you put four bags of ice in versus that you don't have any bags of versus that you don't have any bags of versus that you don't have any bags of ice because you didn't get time to the ice because you didn't get time to the ice because you didn't get time to the shop because you just needed to get out shop because you just needed to get out shop because you just needed to get out there and train it's just cold water there and train it's just cold water there and train it's just cold water and it will give you an idea and then and it will give you an idea and then and it will give you an idea and then you'll be like okay i know that i to be you'll be like okay i know that i to be you'll be like okay i know that i to be like for instance you've had a really like for instance you've had a really like for instance you've had a really hard day you've had to go and train hard day you've had to go and train hard day you've had to go and train and then you might be like right i have and then you might be like right i have and then you might be like right i have to go to the shop versus just uh having to go to the shop versus just uh having to go to the shop versus just uh having a cold cold bath a cold cold bath a cold cold bath yeah yeah yeah um so i actually actually yeah um so i actually actually yeah um so i actually actually downloaded the app this morning okay downloaded the app this morning okay downloaded the app this morning okay nice nice yeah so i've i've not had a chance to uh yeah so i've i've not had a chance to uh yeah so i've i've not had a chance to uh document anything yet but document anything yet but document anything yet but uh when i get in uh when i get in uh when i get in i'll be i'll be having a nice bath and i i'll be i'll be having a nice bath and i i'll be i'll be having a nice bath and i will be doing it will be doing it will be doing it yeah well i'll check in with you in
26:00yeah well i'll check in with you in yeah well i'll check in with you in maybe a month and just see how that's maybe a month and just see how that's maybe a month and just see how that's been good obviously you're you're very been good obviously you're you're very been good obviously you're you're very active with your training um so it'd be active with your training um so it'd be active with your training um so it'd be really good to see um and i'd also maybe really good to see um and i'd also maybe really good to see um and i'd also maybe recommend so recommend so recommend so like you've you said you have an ice like you've you said you have an ice like you've you said you have an ice bath before you go to the gym and maybe bath before you go to the gym and maybe bath before you go to the gym and maybe that's your process because you've just that's your process because you've just that's your process because you've just come home and for eight hours you've come home and for eight hours you've come home and for eight hours you've been lugging timber around knocking nail been lugging timber around knocking nail been lugging timber around knocking nail well well well like nailing like timber joists whatever like nailing like timber joists whatever like nailing like timber joists whatever you're doing you're doing you're doing um um but but maybe you could use a cold shower which maybe you could use a cold shower which maybe you could use a cold shower which will also help your body one is recover will also help your body one is recover will also help your body one is recover but also uh heat your body up so there's but also uh heat your body up so there's but also uh heat your body up so there's some good science to support some good science to support some good science to support uh runners having a cold shower would be uh runners having a cold shower would be uh runners having a cold shower would be a better way of warming up versus a better way of warming up versus a better way of warming up versus stretching stretching stretching because it activates activates the body because it activates activates the body because it activates activates the body now i'd never recommend i would always now i'd never recommend i would always now i'd never recommend i would always recommend stretching into any exercise recommend stretching into any exercise recommend stretching into any exercise and stretching out and stretching out and stretching out but your you could have a process which
27:00but your you could have a process which but your you could have a process which would be right get a shower would be right get a shower would be right get a shower whatever or it might be that you have whatever or it might be that you have whatever or it might be that you have your bath for that big recovery after your bath for that big recovery after your bath for that big recovery after work but then use a cold shower as well work but then use a cold shower as well work but then use a cold shower as well in there in there in there uh because obviously having multiple ice uh because obviously having multiple ice uh because obviously having multiple ice baths baths baths it takes time also it's a big big waste it takes time also it's a big big waste it takes time also it's a big big waste of water but i can i know why you do it of water but i can i know why you do it of water but i can i know why you do it because of the the well-being benefit because of the the well-being benefit because of the the well-being benefit um um and i really want to bring it back um and i really want to bring it back um and i really want to bring it back um bring it back to sort of bring it back to sort of bring it back to sort of what's your biggest takeaway what's your biggest takeaway what's your biggest takeaway you know what is the the thing that you you know what is the the thing that you you know what is the the thing that you you know that you the reason why you you know that you the reason why you you know that you the reason why you started cold therapy started cold therapy started cold therapy but what is it that but what is it that but what is it that that keeps you going back in and what is that keeps you going back in and what is that keeps you going back in and what is it that like it that like it that like when you talk about it to your friends when you talk about it to your friends when you talk about it to your friends you just you get that warm feeling that you just you get that warm feeling that you just you get that warm feeling that you just know it's done so much for you you just know it's done so much for you you just know it's done so much for you you know what is if you can describe you know what is if you can describe you know what is if you can describe that into words that into words that into words um that would be really um that would be really um that would be really yeah so the one the one thing that makes
28:00yeah so the one the one thing that makes yeah so the one the one thing that makes me come back every single time is the me come back every single time is the me come back every single time is the just just just the amount of clarity you have in your the amount of clarity you have in your the amount of clarity you have in your mind like mind like mind like after it after it after it there's just there's just there's just there's so much space there's just so there's so much space there's just so there's so much space there's just so much space and you just feel so much space and you just feel so much space and you just feel so energetic you feel so good energetic you feel so good energetic you feel so good like there's nothing on this planet like there's nothing on this planet like there's nothing on this planet that can make you feel like that that can make you feel like that that can make you feel like that other than cold water therapy and i other than cold water therapy and i other than cold water therapy and i recommend it to all my friends and recommend it to all my friends and recommend it to all my friends and a couple of them have actually started a couple of them have actually started a couple of them have actually started as well and as well and as well and none of them believed me not nobody none of them believed me not nobody none of them believed me not nobody believed me and then they tried it and believed me and then they tried it and believed me and then they tried it and they was like i should have never they was like i should have never they was like i should have never doubted you i should have never ever doubted you i should have never ever doubted you i should have never ever doubted you because it's amazing and i'm doubted you because it's amazing and i'm doubted you because it's amazing and i'm gonna do it like once or twice a week gonna do it like once or twice a week gonna do it like once or twice a week and it's amazing to see because the and it's amazing to see because the and it's amazing to see because the community is growing and like it's just community is growing and like it's just community is growing and like it's just so good so good so good are you starting your own community up are you starting your own community up are you starting your own community up there now um there now um there now um you've got if you've got any local you've got if you've got any local you've got if you've got any local reservoirs that are within a 10-15 reservoirs that are within a 10-15 reservoirs that are within a 10-15 minute drive
29:00minute drive minute drive uh so uh so uh so the closest the closest the closest is bruff it's called welton waters i is bruff it's called welton waters i is bruff it's called welton waters i think yeah think yeah think yeah that's the that's the closest that's the that's the closest that's the that's the closest other than other than like jumping in other than other than like jumping in other than other than like jumping in like the river number like the river number like the river number for i wouldn't recommend that anybody do for i wouldn't recommend that anybody do for i wouldn't recommend that anybody do that that okay okay so so definitely if even if it's once a week definitely if even if it's once a week definitely if even if it's once a week or once a month or once a month or once a month if you can get that community get people if you can get that community get people if you can get that community get people accountable you know whether it's a accountable you know whether it's a accountable you know whether it's a two or three cold showers or an ice bath two or three cold showers or an ice bath two or three cold showers or an ice bath a week but if you can get people once a a week but if you can get people once a a week but if you can get people once a month or once a fortnight month or once a fortnight month or once a fortnight meeting up and just going out there one meeting up and just going out there one meeting up and just going out there one it's gonna do great for you because it's gonna do great for you because it's gonna do great for you because you're going to feel all that energy you're going to feel all that energy you're going to feel all that energy that's going to spur you on and also that's going to spur you on and also that's going to spur you on and also just sharing the love for cold therapy just sharing the love for cold therapy just sharing the love for cold therapy yeah yeah definitely yeah yeah definitely ed um ed um ed um so let's talk about the love for cole so let's talk about the love for cole so let's talk about the love for cole therapy is cold therapy a part of your therapy is cold therapy a part of your therapy is cold therapy a part of your life now a lot of cold therapy for life life now a lot of cold therapy for life life now a lot of cold therapy for life a hundred percent without a doubt a
30:00a hundred percent without a doubt a a hundred percent without a doubt a hundred percent hundred percent hundred percent nice nice um um so you you spoke about your you know so you you spoke about your you know so you you spoke about your you know speaking to your friends speaking to your friends speaking to your friends and and that processing you you most probably that processing you you most probably that processing you you most probably noticed at the start noticed at the start noticed at the start it felt like you was knocking on on it felt like you was knocking on on it felt like you was knocking on on death's door no you know they were just death's door no you know they were just death's door no you know they were just like yeah whatever like yeah whatever like yeah whatever you know the thought of the cut them you know the thought of the cut them you know the thought of the cut them getting into cold water getting into cold water getting into cold water it just it sends shivers down people's it just it sends shivers down people's it just it sends shivers down people's spines spines spines thinking about it because like they they thinking about it because like they they thinking about it because like they they associate the cold with pain associate the cold with pain associate the cold with pain yeah yeah um and so you obviously went through a um and so you obviously went through a um and so you obviously went through a process until they have finally sort of process until they have finally sort of process until they have finally sort of listened and then like you said they listened and then like you said they listened and then like you said they were like we wish you we listened to you were like we wish you we listened to you were like we wish you we listened to you from the start so people that are from the start so people that are from the start so people that are listening to this uh and listening to listening to this uh and listening to listening to this uh and listening to your story your story your story like so many people today like so many people today like so many people today after the past three years after the past three years after the past three years are suffering with anxiety are suffering with anxiety are suffering with anxiety stress stress stress depression
31:00depression depression you know that are worried about so many you know that are worried about so many you know that are worried about so many things going on in the world you know things going on in the world you know things going on in the world you know and we're trying to say to them to we're and we're trying to say to them to we're and we're trying to say to them to we're blue in the face about the benefits of blue in the face about the benefits of blue in the face about the benefits of cold therapy creating the space up here cold therapy creating the space up here cold therapy creating the space up here you know what would you say to those you know what would you say to those you know what would you say to those people that are listening to us right people that are listening to us right people that are listening to us right now to try and get them into cold now to try and get them into cold now to try and get them into cold therapy for the first time therapy for the first time therapy for the first time or someone's been in like you was but or someone's been in like you was but or someone's been in like you was but they they're at the point where they're they they're at the point where they're they they're at the point where they're like i'm never going in again like i'm never going in again like i'm never going in again you know but we know the benefits what you know but we know the benefits what you know but we know the benefits what would you say to would you say to would you say to those people those people those people so so i'd say i'd say i'd say just give it a go just give it give it a just give it a go just give it give it a just give it a go just give it give it a try even if it's just for try even if it's just for try even if it's just for 15 seconds 30 seconds at the end at the 15 seconds 30 seconds at the end at the 15 seconds 30 seconds at the end at the end of your about at the end of your end of your about at the end of your end of your about at the end of your warm shower just try it and just warm shower just try it and just warm shower just try it and just just stick with it try it like do a just stick with it try it like do a just stick with it try it like do a 10-day challenge and just add 15 seconds 10-day challenge and just add 15 seconds 10-day challenge and just add 15 seconds each time and by by the end of the 10 each time and by by the end of the 10 each time and by by the end of the 10 days you will be able to do five minutes days you will be able to do five minutes days you will be able to do five minutes and you'll crave it you'll you'll and you'll crave it you'll you'll and you'll crave it you'll you'll your life will change forever your life will change forever your life will change forever yes
32:00yes yes so normally what we i like to do is i so normally what we i like to do is i so normally what we i like to do is i like to pass it over so you have the like to pass it over so you have the like to pass it over so you have the final say but why we've been talking final say but why we've been talking final say but why we've been talking something's popped up uh something's popped up uh something's popped up uh in my thought process um which i hope in my thought process um which i hope in my thought process um which i hope maybe you can explore uh to get some maybe you can explore uh to get some maybe you can explore uh to get some support with your your mission support with your your mission support with your your mission uh for your rock climbing which is uh uh for your rock climbing which is uh uh for your rock climbing which is uh the likes of gofundme um the likes of gofundme um the likes of gofundme um just given patreon just given patreon just given patreon allow for uh people to raise funds for allow for uh people to raise funds for allow for uh people to raise funds for for like for like what you're doing for like for like what you're doing for like for like what you're doing about trying to get into a gb into about trying to get into a gb into about trying to get into a gb into athletics into into sports athletics into into sports athletics into into sports um and that will allow to help pay for um and that will allow to help pay for um and that will allow to help pay for equipment travel costs equipment travel costs equipment travel costs especially with the rising fuel costs so especially with the rising fuel costs so especially with the rising fuel costs so i would really love for you to go and i would really love for you to go and i would really love for you to go and explore that uh and then if you have and explore that uh and then if you have and explore that uh and then if you have and you set up a uh an account that we can you set up a uh an account that we can you set up a uh an account that we can add it to this video add it to this video add it to this video because this video will go up and go to because this video will go up and go to because this video will go up and go to other places um but i i do think it other places um but i i do think it other places um but i i do think it should be something maybe just to
33:00should be something maybe just to should be something maybe just to explore or look at and and the grants explore or look at and and the grants explore or look at and and the grants um um that would be that would be that would be that that would be amazing i'm gonna that that would be amazing i'm gonna that that would be amazing i'm gonna actually look into that actually look into that actually look into that yeah i i highly recommend it so yeah i i highly recommend it so yeah i i highly recommend it so owen thank you so much for owen thank you so much for owen thank you so much for for your for your for your journey your coal therapy journey uh journey your coal therapy journey uh journey your coal therapy journey uh sharing your your truth and the sharing your your truth and the sharing your your truth and the struggles and struggles and struggles and you know i know that you're here because you know i know that you're here because you know i know that you're here because of what coal therapy's done for you and of what coal therapy's done for you and of what coal therapy's done for you and to share that story and how it's to share that story and how it's to share that story and how it's transformed to keep you transformed to keep you transformed to keep you going every day doing what you love going every day doing what you love going every day doing what you love and what i like to do is i like to hand and what i like to do is i like to hand and what i like to do is i like to hand over the floor to you to say any final over the floor to you to say any final over the floor to you to say any final words this is a place where you share words this is a place where you share words this is a place where you share your social handles but really if you've your social handles but really if you've your social handles but really if you've got any final messages whether it's cold got any final messages whether it's cold got any final messages whether it's cold therapy related or not the floor is therapy related or not the floor is therapy related or not the floor is yours to say what you like and finish yours to say what you like and finish yours to say what you like and finish off with your final word off with your final word off with your final word great so just to finish things off great so just to finish things off great so just to finish things off um anybody who's on the fence about um anybody who's on the fence about um anybody who's on the fence about cold water therapy
34:00cold water therapy cold water therapy just just go for it go for it go for it do it what's stopping you just do it what's stopping you just do it what's stopping you just absolutely just absolutely just absolutely just go ahead first just dive into it go ahead first just dive into it go ahead first just dive into it and you'll change your life and you'll change your life and you'll change your life definitely definitely definitely and your your social handles owen and your your social handles owen and your your social handles owen so so um my instagram is owen underscore stone um my instagram is owen underscore stone um my instagram is owen underscore stone house house house and and i post a lot of um a lot of my rock i post a lot of um a lot of my rock i post a lot of um a lot of my rock climbing content there i also post a lot climbing content there i also post a lot climbing content there i also post a lot of inspiration and a lot of them a lot of inspiration and a lot of them a lot of inspiration and a lot of them a lot of stuff based on mental health so if of stuff based on mental health so if of stuff based on mental health so if you're ever struggling you're ever struggling you're ever struggling drop me a message drop me a message drop me a message and i can help you and i can help you and i can help you yeah and we will link we'll link the yeah and we will link we'll link the yeah and we will link we'll link the bios if you've got any other bios um bios if you've got any other bios um bios if you've got any other bios um that you want us to link in the message that you want us to link in the message that you want us to link in the message just send them through to me but we will just send them through to me but we will just send them through to me but we will link and the reason why i wanted you to link and the reason why i wanted you to link and the reason why i wanted you to say it is because when this goes out say it is because when this goes out say it is because when this goes out when we start pushing this out to when we start pushing this out to when we start pushing this out to spotify where it's just an auditory uh spotify where it's just an auditory uh spotify where it's just an auditory uh podcast it's so that people can be like podcast it's so that people can be like podcast it's so that people can be like okay that guy's like me i want to i want okay that guy's like me i want to i want okay that guy's like me i want to i want to know what he's up to i want to see to know what he's up to i want to see to know what he's up to i want to see these rock climbing pictures
35:00these rock climbing pictures these rock climbing pictures so owen thank you so much thank you so owen thank you so much thank you so owen thank you so much thank you not a problem it's a pleasure
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