ryan welcome to the podcast ryan welcome to the podcast ryan welcome to the podcast great to be here thanks for having me i great to be here thanks for having me i great to be here thanks for having me i am excited to chat about cold because am excited to chat about cold because am excited to chat about cold because this is something i've been getting a this is something i've been getting a this is something i've been getting a lot more into this past year but before lot more into this past year but before lot more into this past year but before we jump into that i have a note in my we jump into that i have a note in my we jump into that i have a note in my show notes that you broke your back show notes that you broke your back show notes that you broke your back running with bulls and i have got to running with bulls and i have got to running with bulls and i have got to hear this story hear this story hear this story yes so after my early 20s i moved to yes so after my early 20s i moved to yes so after my early 20s i moved to
what i want to really go deep with you what i want to really go deep with you on today so to start broad i'd love to on today so to start broad i'd love to on today so to start broad i'd love to hear how you got into the world of cold hear how you got into the world of cold hear how you got into the world of cold therapy therapy therapy i got into it uh in 20 well i first i got into it uh in 20 well i first i got into it uh in 20 well i first learned of it in 2016 or actually 2015 learned of it in 2016 or actually 2015 learned of it in 2016 or actually 2015 when the um when the um when the um wim hof documentary came out on vice wim hof documentary came out on vice wim hof documentary came out on vice and i remember and i remember and i remember seeing that i had no clue who wim was seeing that i had no clue who wim was seeing that i had no clue who wim was cold water wasn't really
benefits are benefits are something that we're still something that we're still something that we're still figuring out it's it's one i could speak figuring out it's it's one i could speak figuring out it's it's one i could speak for myself with the benefits of you know for myself with the benefits of you know for myself with the benefits of you know why why i do it it is the why why i do it it is the why why i do it it is the mental resiliency it's the consistency mental resiliency it's the consistency mental resiliency it's the consistency of doing something hard daily and i of doing something hard daily and i of doing something hard daily and i really think there's some power in the really think there's some power in the really think there's some power in the consistency of it and rewriting consistency of it and rewriting consistency of it and rewriting like neural pathways in there so though like neural pathways in there so though like neural pathways in there so though getting into the cold the big thing that
they've turned to a lot of different they've turned to a lot of different things like we just recently this is one things like we just recently this is one things like we just recently this is one that just happened recently we had a that just happened recently we had a that just happened recently we had a person that had cove coven they had person that had cove coven they had person that had cove coven they had coveted long-haul and they were coveted long-haul and they were coveted long-haul and they were you know had tried everything they were you know had tried everything they were you know had tried everything they were in studies they were taking all the in studies they were taking all the in studies they were taking all the medications out there medications out there medications out there and and and we get a text and the the guys had the we get a text and the the guys had the we get a text and the the guys had the unit for a week and his recovery score
the contrast is the contrast is so first like for cold one of the main so first like for cold one of the main so first like for cold one of the main mechanisms if you're just doing cold is mechanisms if you're just doing cold is mechanisms if you're just doing cold is a lot of people do it are really a lot of people do it are really a lot of people do it are really attracted to it right now for metabolism attracted to it right now for metabolism attracted to it right now for metabolism increase and so the cold is really increase and so the cold is really increase and so the cold is really phenomenal to get in and stay cold it's phenomenal to get in and stay cold it's phenomenal to get in and stay cold it's the body kind of adapting the body kind of adapting the body kind of adapting um um um [Music] [Music] [Music] strictly to the cold so if you're going
now he's he did the deep dive onto now he's he did the deep dive onto metabolism metabolism metabolism um um um and he his big thing is taking us to and he his big thing is taking us to and he his big thing is taking us to it's you really want to take yourself to it's you really want to take yourself to it's you really want to take yourself to a shiver a shiver a shiver and that shiver response sends and that shiver response sends and that shiver response sends is some sort of trigger into the body to is some sort of trigger into the body to is some sort of trigger into the body to um um um [Music] [Music] [Music] on the metabolism side and there's the
start to get the benefits and how long start to get the benefits and how long um because i've read for instance some um because i've read for instance some um because i've read for instance some data that even in like in the low 50s data that even in like in the low 50s data that even in like in the low 50s you're getting you're getting you're getting that tangible benefit you're hitting that tangible benefit you're hitting that tangible benefit you're hitting shiver response and then maybe there's shiver response and then maybe there's shiver response and then maybe there's no need to push it into the 30s to no need to push it into the 30s to no need to push it into the 30s to actually get those benefits actually get those benefits actually get those benefits absolutely i absolutely i absolutely i i actually encourage anyone that you i actually encourage anyone that you i actually encourage anyone that you know any of our people that get a plunge
yeah i think of it a little like fasting yeah i think of it a little like fasting where there's certainly physical where there's certainly physical where there's certainly physical benefits as well but i feel like the benefits as well but i feel like the benefits as well but i feel like the resiliency and that building that mental resiliency and that building that mental resiliency and that building that mental toughness is a huge advantage of the toughness is a huge advantage of the toughness is a huge advantage of the cold and especially i was so resistant cold and especially i was so resistant cold and especially i was so resistant to it i've it's been really fun to see to it i've it's been really fun to see to it i've it's been really fun to see my ability to stay and go up over time i my ability to stay and go up over time i my ability to stay and go up over time i also am competitive so i know in myself also am competitive so i know in myself also am competitive so i know in myself i've pushed it a few times just to prove i've pushed it a few times just to prove i've pushed it a few times just to prove i could and stayed in for too long and
and i heard even tim ferriss 10 years ago talk about this that there's a ago talk about this that there's a ago talk about this that there's a special benefit to cooling kind of the special benefit to cooling kind of the special benefit to cooling kind of the brain stem back the neck area for the brain stem back the neck area for the brain stem back the neck area for the metabolism side and for burning fat and metabolism side and for burning fat and metabolism side and for burning fat and for that brown fat creation there seems for that brown fat creation there seems for that brown fat creation there seems to be a signaling mechanism connected to to be a signaling mechanism connected to to be a signaling mechanism connected to the hypothalamus they think um because the hypothalamus they think um because the hypothalamus they think um because he even recommended you know you can put he even recommended you know you can put he even recommended you know you can put an ice pack on the back of your neck and an ice pack on the back of your neck and an ice pack on the back of your neck and get some of the effects because of that get some of the effects because of that
um to what that's the pure intention um to what that's the pure intention that we're doing of getting into the that we're doing of getting into the that we're doing of getting into the cold waters to stress our body out um cold waters to stress our body out um cold waters to stress our body out um so you know if you have heart issues so you know if you have heart issues so you know if you have heart issues that's definitely one to that's definitely one to that's definitely one to monitor whether it's talking to your monitor whether it's talking to your monitor whether it's talking to your health practitioner health practitioner health practitioner or or or just easing in you know starting out just easing in you know starting out just easing in you know starting out your first time and and your first time and and your first time and and and it's a new way to learn your body so
um um just encouraging people like it's kind of a self-exploration thing it's kind of a self-exploration thing it's kind of a self-exploration thing and then on the data standpoint i don't and then on the data standpoint i don't and then on the data standpoint i don't i don't have anything to really bring i don't have anything to really bring i don't have anything to really bring forward there forward there forward there for a lot of our listeners um most for a lot of our listeners um most for a lot of our listeners um most people listening are mom so another people listening are mom so another people listening are mom so another question i know we're gonna get is what question i know we're gonna get is what question i know we're gonna get is what about kids and i'll say on a personal about kids and i'll say on a personal about kids and i'll say on a personal level again not medical advice but i level again not medical advice but i level again not medical advice but i
tell them to get out but it's fun to tell them to get out but it's fun to watch my kids because especially the watch my kids because especially the watch my kids because especially the younger ones their responses are so younger ones their responses are so younger ones their responses are so natural they usually start laughing natural they usually start laughing natural they usually start laughing which speaks to all the release of all which speaks to all the release of all which speaks to all the release of all the neurotransmitters and dopamine the neurotransmitters and dopamine the neurotransmitters and dopamine that's happening when you get in cold that's happening when you get in cold that's happening when you get in cold water um yeah it's a lot of fun to watch water um yeah it's a lot of fun to watch water um yeah it's a lot of fun to watch another tip i have personally is when i another tip i have personally is when i another tip i have personally is when i was trying to do like work up to five was trying to do like work up to five was trying to do like work up to five minutes a day i would put on
on our workouts but on our workouts but like i was talking to dr kelly starrett like i was talking to dr kelly starrett like i was talking to dr kelly starrett about this he's kind of a about this he's kind of a about this he's kind of a recovery expert recovery expert recovery expert and and and his big thing is i would he said if i had a client i i would he said if i had a client i i would he said if i had a client i would that they're a bodybuilder or would that they're a bodybuilder or would that they're a bodybuilder or some professional athlete yes i would some professional athlete yes i would some professional athlete yes i would recommend them probably not to get in recommend them probably not to get in recommend them probably not to get in the cold right after their workout the cold right after their workout the cold right after their workout
understand it um understand it um there's really good yeah that's a it's a there's really good yeah that's a it's a there's really good yeah that's a it's a it's a unique one online where there's it's a unique one online where there's it's a unique one online where there's there's probably a lot of other things there's probably a lot of other things there's probably a lot of other things under the surface that's happening that under the surface that's happening that under the surface that's happening that we don't even quite realize yet and like i mentioned most people and like i mentioned most people and like i mentioned most people listening are parents so i'm curious if listening are parents so i'm curious if listening are parents so i'm curious if you've heard any you've heard any you've heard any specific kind of cool unexpected things specific kind of cool unexpected things specific kind of cool unexpected things from families specifically who from families specifically who from families specifically who
out of uh man there's got to be a way to out of uh man there's got to be a way to make this more affordable than the few options more affordable than the few options more affordable than the few options where that were on the market at the where that were on the market at the where that were on the market at the time and we did come up with something time and we did come up with something time and we did come up with something that we thought was that we thought was that we thought was you know is you know is you know is both men and women really enjoyed it it both men and women really enjoyed it it both men and women really enjoyed it it looks good it's effective it's clean looks good it's effective it's clean looks good it's effective it's clean it's cold it's on demand whenever you it's cold it's on demand whenever you it's cold it's on demand whenever you want it want it want it
like cold plunge is one part of many like cold plunge is one part of many many things we can do for health and i'm many things we can do for health and i'm many things we can do for health and i'm a huge fan i'm curious for you what some a huge fan i'm curious for you what some a huge fan i'm curious for you what some of the other things that are your of the other things that are your of the other things that are your non-negotiables when it comes to health non-negotiables when it comes to health non-negotiables when it comes to health or maybe your own 80 20 of things that or maybe your own 80 20 of things that or maybe your own 80 20 of things that you feel like give you the biggest bang you feel like give you the biggest bang you feel like give you the biggest bang for your buck and when it comes to for your buck and when it comes to for your buck and when it comes to staying healthy i mean to me it's it's simple i mean i have a simple i mean i have a simple i mean i have a list of supplements and products that i list of supplements and products that i
monkey mind so when those start to monkey mind so when those start to separate we get that those moments of separate we get that those moments of separate we get that those moments of clarity those moments of peace um so clarity those moments of peace um so clarity those moments of peace um so floating is a big floating is a big floating is a big a bit a big advocate of that um a bit a big advocate of that um a bit a big advocate of that um you know whether that's once a month you know whether that's once a month you know whether that's once a month twice a month however you can get in twice a month however you can get in twice a month however you can get in that's it that's a huge huge tool that's it that's a huge huge tool that's it that's a huge huge tool yeah i've done some floating in the past yeah i've done some floating in the past yeah i've done some floating in the past as well and it's amazing how it both as well and it's amazing how it both as well and it's amazing how it both seems like you're in there forever and
important signaling mechanism and it important signaling mechanism and it skin exposure to me is very important skin exposure to me is very important skin exposure to me is very important but also it's people don't realize but also it's people don't realize but also it's people don't realize there's sensors in our eyes that respond there's sensors in our eyes that respond there's sensors in our eyes that respond very drastically to natural sunlight so very drastically to natural sunlight so very drastically to natural sunlight so even just 10 minutes of being outside on even just 10 minutes of being outside on even just 10 minutes of being outside on a break on lunchtime go for a walk it a break on lunchtime go for a walk it a break on lunchtime go for a walk it makes a huge difference in your hormones makes a huge difference in your hormones makes a huge difference in your hormones over time um just like we've talked over time um just like we've talked over time um just like we've talked about with cold that like hormetic about with cold that like hormetic about with cold that like hormetic stress from cold can make a huge
it actually tends to make people less it actually tends to make people less afraid of actually dying and more afraid of actually dying and more afraid of actually dying and more content in life i love that you brought content in life i love that you brought content in life i love that you brought that up that up that up that's the that's the key i really take that's the that's the key i really take that's the that's the key i really take from i mean the book really hammers at from i mean the book really hammers at from i mean the book really hammers at home but it's like home but it's like home but it's like the more we're open to our death you the more we're open to our death you the more we're open to our death you know the more we're going to openly live know the more we're going to openly live know the more we're going to openly live life and it's this paradox that they life and it's this paradox that they life and it's this paradox that they dance together and i
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