Wim Hof The Iceman over koud douchen hoe angst werkt en meer KUKURU 02
00:00Now I don't really have an opening line Wim, so maybe you could do the opening show for a very short time. Cha cha lap of honor. Mmm, also round cake hold. Yes and oh so yes cake. Smoke your Uke roe cha cha Oeh. cake route. Also Roel Yes, Tong Mmm yes. Welcome to Koek Eru. Today we have a man who is more famous in the foreign country approximately than at home. He has grown from crazy to genius. And yes, there where he actually dropped out of school, he's now explaining to doctors how t is. Bottom line. And his nickname is that Asman. Uh, can I have a round of applause for Wim Hof? Yay! Yeah. good, yeah, yeah, uh, there's a live audience. Uh, you can be there. If you belong to the Q Kraus club then you can be here... ...with Adam and co. We have a fantastic view of Amsterdam and Wim. Yes z as always you are just shining you again. Just yes yes! Yes yes
01:00what else is there to do in life right? That is also true. Just be tough. And uh, if not. And do we show you how to break the ice? Ice broken. Well, d'r isn't there for just V way too much depression, dejection, A all those illnesses and so on for I I I didn't think that was right. I thought that was sick and I think it's too normalized and e one becomes desensitized to that and in sensitive and and and where is the drive to do something about that? And for that I think that this podcast uh, I don't know what it is, an interview, but everything podcast this the that that kind of new yes, what's that called knowledge bringing media d'r makes sure that we move past our existing mindsets.
02:00Something new has to start coming out and we will pull out of the mud in the E. This podcast. What is that? You're actually saying but maybe I'm going too deep right away, but I think that's pretty genius, that that what we call subconscious, That we can actually make that ours as well. Wow, yes and hit the nail on the head. We have already shown seven years ago with t Radboud Hospital in the university Cope. what is it called? comparative study we have shown that the... ...autonomic nervous system until then in the books...<threedots/> ...not by humans at power to influence. uh, we have shown very clearly 100% score with twelve people after thousands who couldn't, suddenly twelve people who had full control of their autonomic nervous system and went into that. And the autonomic nervous system is that which happens outside of your own consciousness,
03:00Or the subconscious. is connected to that, so the subconscious. Now, that's what I find that we can do much more than we think than we are educated. And we we have to go up to our full potential. And how much is that and how g? How are we going to do that? Are we going to show? Because I'm so many studies now. Mm hu that reproduce everything more, again show... ...that we're capable of much more than we've scientifically assumed so far. And that's what that whole society in t system is built on, on what people think they're capable of, not what they are. No, exactly and and so actually we are underdeveloped in that area. Yes at t moment I you. You bring up right away a research that I can imagine was nice for you too. Because look, you could in t beginning and and she yes I think it's a pity huh.
04:00That's how you might still be known in Holland That people are going to think yes that Wim, that's just huh freak of nature as t call it. Uh, he can do something. Well, that's not the point. can enter the circus or do tricks. But actually because of that research with t Radboud, what you already knew. But what you could prove then, namely that anyone can do it. Yes, well exactly. uh, t was not about that I could t. Because indeed w e become like a circus artist. Uh, are you being tucked away? Yes eh. First I was the ice frog the ice rabbit and t got bigger and bigger hear D At one point the... ...polar bear requirements walrus and k am the honorary member of the walrus club in Poland born and and Russia... ...and t gets bigger and bigger. Well yes, but then came that science and then I showed that people could... ...within four days which people thought. Did you know? Because I could do it on my own. I felt the. Yes, yes.
05:00Intuitively I felt that people are capable of much more. I have a namely a identical twin brother. Yes, and he couldn't do what I did. Even though you were identical. Yes, but yes, that B. That would actually prove that you are thus more special and can do something that not everyone can do. yes, but if you talked about identical twins and talked about genetically the same material? Yes and uh. So they can then both do about the same thing. Due to circumstances it will differ a little bit, but genetically we wouldn't be able to then. What I did and he couldn't do what I did. Were you able to learn then? the yes, yes, yes, yes, yes. Not just him now, millions of others are at sta i in his in state and the this is the vegetarian key question. Uh. yes the the the what the world is all about. D'r is millions of people thin this well millions of people who then. The Wim Hof method.
06:00The Wim Hof method which consists of breathing exercises, specific breathing exercises, cold exposure, graduated cold, cold exposure and the mind set huh, the the mental state of your neurological, of your neurology in your brain. Because that's a last uh. Latest research has shown that there does... ...definitely 1SN you work like a muscle, because I was able to get cold... ...water on me just by using my mind in a brains faucet and not drop the skin temperature, just by using our mind. That mind that has been trained through schooling and career and uhm. Uh, not trained actually. exactly. What we haven't trained is the D to our inner being,
07:00our inner mechanisms that d'r for at all... ...times could make sure that we could just keep our happiness, strength and health at all times. So then if you get fired and d'r you don't get depressed, because yes um, exactly. But back to the beginning for a moment. Look you come into contact with ice at some point. You are attracted to that and you feel by... ...tingling and and by what t in your head with you do that you have something to do with that. Yes, absolutely yes. I. Intuitively. I went into that ice at the age of 17 and uh, I sat there for a minute and I felt there Without... ...words I felt this is t? Yes, this is what I was looking for. But I want to take a moment to that first time that you then anyway And that fall you huh, That uh. When you went to do that research with t Radboud, of course you knew that t that was possible huh? And several people. So what was the first time you thought I'm going to try this effe on someone or I'm going to do this with someone.
08:00How we the w How old were you then and and who was that? I be. I was a guide for many years, the mountain guide in the Pyrenees. And there I brought people without neoprene suits into icy rivers, re waterfalls, abseiling, going down. That's called canyoning. Yes, yes, yes. And nowadays that's well known. But when I started doing that naughty yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, and so abseiling, but then the uh. Normally you do that with a neoprene suits, but I was teaching people those deeper breathing exercises... ...which caused them 11A different chemistry within themselves. And that they could then expose them to that cold is causing you when you cause that chemistry, then suddenly in a deeper control of your physiology. And that's where they went into nature, into that cold and that's where they then just turned out to be able to. So t just tourists were you first. Ginny Peeks. Do those things play? Yes yes exactly.
09:00And then you felt and felt those people too of Jesus what power. Oh boy that's that was party every time uh. Every night we had v ge party. Yes, and every day I was there. three months a year. uh, was I there then? And yes uh. Every day I was in those canyons and at in the mountains and then you see that people are indeed not only capable of much more. They become calm, they become serene, they become strength itself. Pure energy comes over and person. If you would talk about an aura and then see that, then you would be a very bright aura all of a sudden. And that is actually meditation huh. Normally you have to sit down and uh, wait for things to calm down, because then you actually become yourself in the deeper parts of your own brain. And we didn't know how we d how, how that... ...how to get there. And now we have l that late. We see in Brains opportunity that you are actually naturally...
10:00...built to be able to bring about your own peace through your own mind. And that I mean see how much depression d'r, how much neurological disorders e and psychoses, ge and dejection and d and such we can solve like that. Auster, Ma and I. I'm asking for that research at last. Am working on that research right now because yes, you want to get started non speculatively. I don't want to leave any more room for people who think ah yes, t is but and at we have what takes a cold shower, what does deep breathing D Get real but I do. Anyway, everything may take time, but I still think it takes quite a long time because that... ...Radboud that's when was t? Yes that would also well seven years ago. Yes exactly. Yes and and. Uh. Well, well, that did spread a bit around the world then and I think uh. But yes, correct me from Broucke that you are very happy... ...with the vice documentary with being with Joe Rogan. Russell Brand.
11:00I don't know who Because well, t t t and maybe... ...once again Holland is a bit behind that and t took a long time for people to adopt t too, I have the impression. Yes, they uh, that is without question a patience. They exercise in patience. Patience is a fine thing they sometimes say. But I yes mean if you have the evidence. Mm hu? What won't that release money for? Seems fucking. Frustrating at we. Do you know how preventative the this works e I always say cool shower a day keeps the doctor away. Yes e at one of the biggest diseases in the world is cardiovascular. related diseases. And uh, if you just take a cold shower huh, every day and breathe a little deeper then you tackle that problem. How can it be that this and that mean we are working on it... ...and I see t mostly positive in order. Revolution has begun in that regard. But is it then that people well yes just don't think.
12:00is t is business? I think that too ns sometimes, you know, You don't have those. Yeah, the is without. More of a medicine world that. without more the pharmaceutical industry is. a yes I is G is money is money based. V Fundamentally actually wrong Yes. Oh people, getting better is a customer you lost. So yes, what kind of business model is that? They will d'rfor that. Making sure they that they keep making money. So very sneaky Ko is getting that in And keeping people alive as long as possible, happy and letting them stay and the quality of life that doesn't matter, as long as they're on the pill. Yes yes, exactly. Have you ever been on medication? in no yes la very long time ago yes, when I well all didn't know. No and how? yes and how do you look at it now? Yes, I, I, I checked this earlier with Emil Ratelband who said right away stop d'rmee. Look I t myself. I was diagnosed with ADHD a few years ago lol.
13:00So that's well, that's that's I would say short on your mill, because that's pure brain neurology. Yes uh. So yeah well I got medication for that. Asshole is dicks there. yes logical, d'r does go a kind of storm in my head. goes through it, but yes, it doesn't feel quite right anyway. I'm thinking yes do I have to go on those pills for the rest of my life? But would you think you could fix that yourself? Oh yes, yes. Uhm, I'm d'r already working on bigger research in America. right now in t area of bipolar disorder and a a depression in San Francisco, the bipolar and Michigan. yes what talk about is neurology in the brain... ...with today's conditioned way of thinking. You have to perform and especially something like that someone like you. You have to be in in the top all the time and that's where you need your brain.
14:00well know them then but after that effe stop. yes well you haven't learned that and that stop huh and and go. That's related in the depths of the autonomic nervous system. and that's governed by the sympathetic and parasympathetic. nervous system. Oh uh, sympathetic so that ge is action pair is empathy. Kiss is Restoration Rehabilitation. So repairing and coming back to rest, coming back to energy. Well exactly yes so. That one is to others is off. Yes that's an ant egoism. But if that antagonism doesn't work not quite work well then the cortisol. That stays in the body and therefore the switch of the couple sympathy. Kiss can't be on because dui uh. And for that we have developed these exercises huh, those... ...in-depth exercises for that which makes the adrenaline access as that is called hypothalamus
15:00the pit rotary gland and the e and and and the adrenal glands, that is the adrenaline access that that works is making that cortisol disappear from the body at once. And so those are best actually the stress, The stressor that stays chronically present, that. Over time causes too little energy. coming back no repair and because of that a lot of chronic diseases come out. But somewhere you also show up. Oh, do you have another uh, a coffee? I do. I'm sick. I wanted well. No, that I know another bakkie. I also want another coke. But at the same time, while I say t, I think yes but yes, there I also run there there there huh. With the Campina ENCI I also run, try to fuck my brain or how uh. well, that uh, you would think and I. I do feel where I. I had last year she t this. I said I I was in Poland and e m and with R80 people and in the mountains and I said squash is a six there.
16:00How after four days of training and and outside in the cold barefoot and swimming in the waterfalls and we were going to climb a mountain the other day in shorts, uh, for five hours and that was all e I was sitting there, Squashing, a start and there comes a guy who says we e but w e Wim t e in t English g v d e and s eut... ...drink sometimes beer den that's in cab station to you your life and the yes he it's not way you preach guy ratings and said I say yes, BA uh, I have my control boy. And you know what I can so here now do a world record and unless d A Yes can you really? I say yes but you have to give me a beer first. And there he is. Came with that beer. Half an hour later I went outside because I was going to stand in the horse stall for 3.00h. Do you know what the horse stand is? This is the this is the horse. Wim goes for a moment. Oh yeah,
17:00just squat down like you're pooping. Oh a little bit like that. And one of those so chi chi or I don't know, that eat like stance. Yeah, yeah, t went you went 3.00h in. 3.00u barefoot outside in the snow and uh. And very relaxed though. And afterwards I had another beer and I mean yeah everyone e. You automatically feel if you take too much or not. If you no longer feel that you have control over anything you just have to stop. But okay, let's just, because I mean everybody wants to be Wim Hof. At least I think a lot of people do that you almost Yes you get everything out of it. Like, like, as a human being we said euh, how? Euh. Let's start with the morning. Euh, what is your morning ritual? Mmm. I uh. Poor man on a mission. I'm a uh. You get up. Up and you have of course yes. Yes right away so from today block. Do you do some food? Block me completely yes I don't eat anything at all during the day. No, then after 6:00am. It's called intermittent fasting these days. But uh, I've been doing that for forty, yes, once a day. Back then that didn't exist at all. Uh, that word. Yeah, what do you eat, mainly vegetarian?
18:00yeah, da da, that's it. Sometimes meat, though. Yes. No meat, no fish, none at all no no, no no no no Sometimes fish yes sometimes fish Yes. And do you do uh in the morning, because you come out a little bit too. the the yoga Did you do a lot? Yes. Are you still starting there? the oh yes, I do definitely you should no huppa get me milk. Yes yes thank you mom from Kim. Yes hello, very good. She's uh. Kim and Wim. Yes you like. oh you recognized me in the beginning huh? Yes, in the elevator. Oh cul the elevator, that's also a movie. With Huub Stapel? And you find it hard to speak Dutch because you almost think you'll never speak Dutch again. Yes, that's the hundreds of podcasts all in English. You're very passionate about that. Do you still want to go? Yes yes, here look. I believe you already Wim, but now goes for the split do or the splits. What is t incredible. Oh unbelievable.
19:00Okay, so you still keep that up a little bit. Oh oh sorry. That doesn't matter, sorry. Okay and and and And Do you still read a lot? I Well, I write me. Yes, exactly. I just there's a new books? is going to come out with yes, kind of the biggest publisher of the world and that yes, well, that's going to be there ma a 300 page sheets ge book. Your life. Me life story. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yes, exactly. So far. Fantastic. And I'm going to throw in another sixty years, of course. Sixty years, 120? Yes, will you live to be a hundred? Twenty? Yes, at least. Okay, great. I'm now working on genetics. Be with the top researchers in America. San Francisco I'm with and I've talked to Nobel Prize winners. in that field. And I just cut wood because my knowledge comes from nature.
20:00Something that is unknown apparently to man... ...I bring to man through science. Somehow I think that's a nice d'raan and that you know more about that than I do. But that in in in in ancient times that they actually all know that much better than we do. Now yes, the e... ...that the the natives became there the in dimensions...<threedots/> ...people e that they that they said just of h...<threedots/> ...I bless your sui seven generations back your...<threedots/> ...ancestors and the seven generations to come. That. They didn't. They didn't just say that, they did, because that knowledge was d'r. They didn't just say yes, ai, uh, that's purple and that's blue and that's so orange. That's nice. The uh, that there was nothing behind it. They felt they knew they had to another knowledge. Now we have mechanisms, microscopes and and and DNA research that is at power to look up and dissect thirteen generations back. And you yeah,
21:00those same people who say me well Wim, where am studying and we know the DNS sequences and uh. Twelve years we've been searching for uh, because we know t, we know how it's all together. the DNA, the structures and the and the sequences. the I don't know this. Sequencers Yes uh, all those things we know, but we didn't know because we know that through those microscopes, but not how we could influence that through the human self. through consciousness. That DNA. And with these techniques we can. Yes, We are working on that right now. With a hundred and forty people in the in San Francisco. And that's going. Next year, that's just going to cause a swell. Which shows, for example, huh in meditative...
22:00...state you can really change ideas after? Yes, yes. But we go a tad further. Because meditation mindfulness has been compared to the... ...research results that we've shown...<threedots/> ...in the nervous system and in and the blood vessels and in it e and the and the and the depth of the brain. and then they saw that the depth of the brain achieved through practicing these techniques. goes deeper within 10 minutes. If you would do that within 10 minutes more than someone who sits 4.00h a day. Mindfullnes Ernest to do for years. No, the is really kind of a full speed version of. Think Bern wa dad. Does there the the. huh, what you just said you would 120 words, that is not given to all of us because we now once provided for a few years? K Mean. You? Yeah, I said I say that just is okay. I said a hundred, twenty I call we I just want.
23:00I say I am not a out done der I vr not to live. I just want to live fully. Yes and no. I am not busy E I b my me My mission is my life, my soul. When the blue flower has bloomed, it's okay. Has its seeds of freedom. has done its work so A All good. No, I've spread quite a few seeds. I can tell Mike, though. And M. That aside. You spiritually I also. yes, yes, there goes e. The G spiritual children huh that the spiritual children of me, That's me will, isn't it? Before I die I want to show that everyone can know their souls in all depths and all colors. And uh, the whole benefits. And it's not too late, because once again I sometimes think that Wim has done well, he just started at a young age. He has the A, De is working on it every day and I'm 42.
24:00I'm just starting to find it interesting. yes, he still makes sense. Well yes, t does make sense, but I mean t so far I mean. I totally have an extraordinary case. E yes, yes t I know he uh. At the age of forty my career actually just began. Yes, yes, yes. And then I just started doing world Koos. Yes and I have so many now that I I really lost count. I know most proud. Well I look. I of those what was t hanging on a finger I thought was pretty extreme. Yes that hang. But yes indeed this finger in you at your waist. the middle finger but huh, that's for when I've proven everything. Well no, Everyone who had declared me a fool and so on, I have a very nice little finger, The strongest finger in the world. But no, it world cages and hangs between two Beach... ...balloons a mile and a half in the air and then i in in the winter in February, when t cold is in your we You know what happens there. Because when the hands are cold huh, then you have no strength left in those hands, right? Yes, you know that right? Well,
25:00I'm going to climb in between then and then take a look at those entrances. Yes and he did then. That yes da da uh. But well I crazy things he, but wa which one are you most proud of? Well, one day before I went to do the first record under ice swim. Yes and that was a distance of fifty meters. Did I have to bridge then or under bridges? swimming for breath in your in your shorts so ge. Fifty meters under one meter thick ice cover. One day before that record was to take place. Uh, we did a dress rehearsal? Yeah, as it's called rehearsal. And then uh, I thought yeah, I'm going to do that whole distance, I know w what's tomorrow. I'm going to write everything. I'm going, going to do that. What happened The I didn't have glasses on, so after 35 meters further... ...under the ice I lost sight because the horn
26:00froze the cornea and I couldn't see anything. And there you are, in your shorts, just catching your breath. And d'r actually no one was down there because it was just a dress rehearsal. After uh, I... ...swam that fifty-meter hole wak I swam past on the right side apparently. I didn't know that. And uh, only then uh, I had that all figured out. Uh, 42 strokes I need à one meter twenty, because that's the distance I cover with one stroke I had calculated. And uh, then you're at 49 meters sixty, so that was all favor and then you see that goes and you see that. Uh, because it was crystal clear water uh, but yes when your cornea b freezes then, then you see a bleu yes uh, what's that called? A blur. Everything becomes blurred.
27:00But there you are in total panic anyway. Well, so I wasn't. And t egg from the therefore. You ask me what is t prettiest, most impressive record? That wasn't actually at that time a record from wa e. As a matter of fact I did almost two and a half times the distance. e than t record. So that wasn't a record. Uh, but... ...i I uh. The next day you have to. Well 42 strokes. Yeah, that was an at piece cake that other day. But uh, I did two e 48. At stroke 48 I regained consciousness, so after the stroke 26 I lost t so of just swimming survival. You don't think in fact you can't think, you're Dani to think, but I at stroke 48, Because your unconscious. you just keep going. O you're at 48 and the one is what you're thinking at that moment six. I have to go back six. Automatically.
28:00ownee because you because your two want yes. Yeah okay you know that. See how long that is huh? And then you've been underwater for almost 2 minutes and then you have to go back. And then. Oh oh oh nothing six That side six That side six That side six That side six That side six Thick. Suddenly in my reality he became so big. Visually yes. But hey and yes. I almost went to sleep and I was asleep at one point. Yes, you are relaxed. Yes, under the ice in ice water huh? Ice water and then holding your breath. That's like dying. I was about to say that's obviously what the most terrible diver would drown. But I man, I didn't feel that at all. I h I I felt like I was going to sleep. And then we got pulled by a diver on my ankle. I uh. I woke up a little bit, because of course it was. uh.
29:00There was nothing left of energy to be conscious of. And uh. I came out of t wak brought back to the fifty-meter wak. I come up. Hey, you come to life. Uh. At first I said goddamn, why was that okay? Uh, but just as fun. But Barra, I did it. You already read it. I did think it shit. And the e and the m, e and t moment in it was friend. I saw death and it wasn't the the d'r sat no fear t t how times she. Baudet jast d'r concept. I tell you, I just have control over t life is control over breath. Because before I did that record ge into that ah none, because no one had ever gone that distance and you don't know what you're all gonna go through huh? Yeah, lazy. Uh. Never mind that I know then that you have glasses have to wear and I know what all. That all happened, but t was not my time apparently.
30:00I I come to life there again. And the i. I sit and think about that h e and to yes of course. I did breathe very deeply of course. Yes and then you change the chemistry and the becomes chemistry. That does not become acidified in your physiology. That becomes very alkaline and when that is alkaline, there goes the light when d'r the energy d'r is no longer there. That slowly just goes out and there you don't feel that. What is alkaline? Alkaline is a positive positive acidity? Yes, yes, and that is true because of neurotransmitters. in t body work correctly. If the building I ie if Elvis Elvis left building. Yes they, that's something like you die huh, at some point. You are going to die, but n ma t building does need all the lights out. You do go out of your body, something does go out of the body there. Yes, that stay alive, that stay on forever. The soul is unbreakable,
31:00is eternal and that goes beyond us. Then you're not concept dead either. Absolutely not. No, absolutely not. I'm not afraid. I'm just afraid of not living. And that n life I'm showing now that we have all these problems that we have today. I mean we can go to a moon, we can shoot rockets... ...and there may be we're thinking, but we can't guarantee happiness, power and health for this world right now. Well, we miss. A point. Here. Yeah, yeah man, so many questions. Uhm. Let me start at the D do we have, when you outline that story uh, so of under that ice are you ever scared? Mmm, no, Yes, I am yes. Am I ever scared? That's a uh, maybe that's the good question. What I'm feeling w o right now. Uh, the fear is in the amygdala. Can you also ask Scherder? Uh, Professor Scherder, I also did the lecture with him once, So of
32:00he one and one and one and so. I I don't have a medical background, but you can just ask this hehe. I'm with the top researchers. they psychiatrists professors I'm working on now and in it I show that we have those areas where that fear houses. and a h fear and and control over yourself, that's in the same area. See, if you can't get into the area of fear... ...can get into the depths of the brain, which is t uh, the brain stem. If you could get there consciously, then you the chemistry that causes that fear which makes you... ...that what's going to come in the future is a blockage that's in this moment, in that part of the brain. If you can't clean that up, then you... ...will have to deal with that in the future. Exactly. And for that we have fear. So fear is actually an impersonal mechanism. Something from the. Past. And if we Yes exactly and and there g can we
33:00later on about the DNA, about the genetics? Can we change that? Well, so we're working on that too. But uh, just... ...back fear is not something abstract. Fear is chemistry. er and this is m e and t creates a blockage. It says think of me, you look at me, process me, otherwise you'll get. In the future you'll get problems. And I already know that in my subconscious, you don't in your consciousness. You think fear is something very weird is nothing weird is a mechanism. It helps us. Fear helps us learn. It's just a counselor. Exactly yes. But exactly. And now you get t uh, that neurology that d'r for causes you to get from your conscious will Q into the area where fear dwells. That chemistry, that you need to get that fear or that chemistry to... ...change so that that ready store uh, so that...<threedots/> ...you can go into the future so fearless. But then the question is do you have ns fear anymore? So no, no.
34:00fuck no. No yes. And e I I challenge any professor in that. Or doctor or neurologist to b o to go into the research in which you could show through brains opportunity that you can create neural neurological pathways... ...neural pathways knowingly to those areas, allowing you to change the chemistry at all times. That's the way we're built. But because we're not that educated we can't h k uh, haven't we created those pathways there? T's like a little baby a little baby's... ...little legs there's nothing to it Uh, but the neurology isn't there yet. No, so have... ...we have been wrongly schooled and w in which we...<threedots/> ...don't come to the neurological pathways that d'r ensure that we have certain chemistry that is caused
35:00by situations that are life lessons that are they we are not in a position to go into that then, do something about that. We don't actually control our own brains, We. Are still tucked away there and we can. Yes, that's t. Yes and the a and t system to serve. But are you then or is that maybe not fear, but for goe I be I mean you are father. Uh, then you uh, you are then aren't you? Yes, aren't you at least concerned? Oh yes, but so am I yes. But t see but that. You see that? Yes, that is also something else than. To empathy empathy and yes a fears. uh. The other day I uh, I had them. I yes in me. My oldest son is 36, my youngest is one year and yes, there is a little difference in that huh. She yes yes yes or A if it's up to me, but yes but yes there you already have too in a uh. No what what. There said. There he is what, what do you want and I because I get. Her not on the phone.
36:00I got there not in the phone to. Normally t behavior is always like yes you get there in the phone. 36 didn't get you. No no no who the the the mother of my one year old child. Yes, yes and I didn't get that on the phone and at a certain point get g no k crazy thoughts. apparently. Crazy too isn't it? yes, dui yes, the and the i I. I almost went crying and and then da that that drei goes further and further towards that emotion huh the and and that gebe and then I got the phone and there was n nothing at all. But da that that's so that's just all. But you have people with long-term traumas, people with long-term blockages, people with deep-seated fears. Yes I. I'm telling you, we can totally change that. Psychiatry. We are at the top at the forefront. We are pioneering in Sakai future. We. We show that happiness is not something abstract succeeded.
37:00E is 1EE a very good control of your own... ...dopamine serotonin ratios and there a e the depression has no chance at all. No, if you can maintain that balance there then e yes. Depression, so that's one of the biggest disease of the west right now. is due to our sedentary sitting meat behavior plus iPhones and I know what all e the e he me and there we've now found the techniques for that. Which d'r ensure that and we have that in brain scans. In Germany nota bene got phone from Deutschland Wim, we found contacts ness Germans counters huh? Yes, but who he he, I also make jokes with do they all love d'r? They he d e I was in in ice cream cooking and then e the vowel almost out in Cologne and did I stand in the world... ...choir in t IJ and the e and the doctor who...<threedots/> ...people e d i e d e who told me the after that Wim said,
38:00do you now hold the Netherlands at Games World... ...Champion e in football in bags said uh, do you know what they do when day become world champion in the in bags and said yes h a n d turn down the the computer. Yes exactly. Yeah, yeah so huh. I make jokes too. Uh, back huh? You operate them though. Yes, but I'm working with them right now and that showed that in that in Brains opportunity one of the two best brain scans in the world in Hanover there those doctors who work with us and one of them even became an instructor in my academy. And uh, therein they saw that through those breathing exercises not 16% v of the brain e has more blood. No, the chemistry in the 100% of the brain totally changed as if they were taking lsd d. Yes, yes, yes, that that. That's what we're missing. Because of our behavior, our behavior,
39:00our breathing has become so shallow. We are so non stimulation or engaged with nature that our but a g that we have 25% more killed i yes, kind of survival of the brain, but no flowering. And so we are able to do much more. We are much more than we think and that is what we want to show. And now we are in a position to build those new pathways. And then it's how long does it take you to get to your own subconscious? Because that's just part of the life questions that you get in your life. The subconscious egg and you first you have to survive, you have to make a career, and so on. But after that, you have the subconscious. That subconscious e t e. That is there just to lazily become unconscious. And so it never stops.
40:00And neurology also shows that. Until death, those neural pathways neural activity just keeps going, unless of course you're doing wrong and and so on. But my A. My oldest participant. Which is so you mean one Me? Yes, yes, where? Oh whatever huh, that that needn't have anything to do with drugs at all either. Maybe with religion? Yes, yes no, so very consciousness narrowed busy with religion or uh. But that's what I really just meant to say there. Aren't we all? And then I still think t can make it better, but I think t majority of people myself, including actually have gone along with it so much already t system I just ask. that I wonder if we still get it under control as you claim. Yes good V42 Yes, I say boy B is just beginning. Yeah man, it's just beginning. Nice. And la let's make d'r something beautiful and d just enter the new realm of the power of the mind. Yes and we are pa.
41:00I have just shown it I argue through your mind only to be able to cold stress... ...Cold stress is ultimately cell Biological stress. Yes, cell biological stress you have can by emotion, emotional stress, mental stress, biological stress, bacterial stress. All stress, stress, stress, stress, all nice little names. Ultimately it comes down to the cell and that's where that stress is delivered and that cell then has to go and process it. And that's the trick really. And that influencing is what we're doing. We're showing that we're capable... ...of much more, capable of getting deeper into the brain, deeper into the physiology than has been scientifically established so far. But I think, and I mean uh. We need people to check out the Wim Hof method, website and app, but just a little bit uh. Apart from the breathing exercises or also a little bit d'rmee. I mean, I think a lot of people are watching and listening right now.
42:00Thinking yes but wait a minute, I want to hit that too. I want, I want to have the the the power of my mind. What, What? What are some tips and tricks from Wim Hof. Tips and m n b Know that you are by power that you were born with the uh, with the tools and the instruments, with you along, with you, with the me and with t medium, your body and your own... ...mind capable of balancing your own happiness, power and health. to have control over that in at all times tide and. T also a piece of faith in that. uh. Faith is a neural activity like you and you. if you believe you can't t, well, one will happen. Do you believe the t can? To a does t happen? What is that? That's not a placebo, that's just the neurological muscle that you can just exercise like other muscles. That's real. That's nice that you say that's the basis of cuck ro. That's how I started doing this because I found out hey, you can train everything and so also well the mind, the mind.
43:00Oh yeah and da e and then are the to the for me. I have a mission. I e I want to give everyone the non dogmatic choice. Yes non. Day Mark Joyce, and now a non dogmatic choice and give of you can be happy, powerful and healthy words remain and pass that on to others. People every day a cold shower. Do yes well e cold shower a day keeps the doctor or way, I say. Always. You? yes, you are of course a B Uh, do you get t ever cold? Yes yes I do get it ns soon. Yes yes to yes and I love a hot shower. Oh no, okay, Oh yes, I I I I. I believe you are just very much like right away cold. Yes, I like to tease myself a little by taking a normal shower first and then taking a cold one. that I know I just have to the last 2 minutes. yeah I don't know if 2 minutes is long enough, but yeah. Yeah well that's. That's how long my toothbrush takes d'rover so that's exactly for me. Uh, that I.
44:00Well that seems like a really good one so long uh. Ask we the people or train at the people at one day to be able to do 2 minutes in ice water. But t is funny how that works because I know that in t beginning. I got all crazy and I? I don't think I was even 30 seconds full on Now I think can't it be colder? Yeah, yeah, that. Well, you kind of get used to it. We are, we are mammals after all. And uh, we have an ounce of blood. The vat system. That's 2.5 times around the world huh? No, it's in a everyone. Fa o a of us. And uh, that's where your capillaries are with reflexes and muscles, Millions of little muscles. By going in that cold you get that your muscles are going to develop. Those get stronger. with that becomes the reaction to cold and heat and that gets a lot better so the resistance doesn't go down anymore. Not only what happens at that time is that the heart rate duo uh.
45:00The heart is helped more with the blood flow, so not only does the blood get to the cells much better. Uh, in terms of nutrition, minerals, vitamin oxygen and everything else is in there in the blood. heart rate goes down by 2030 beats per minute 00.00h a day. That means stress is suddenly gone. But would you uh, apart from that cold shower also uh. Every day you do your own method every day? Uh. V and and I say there many in one. Short well do you even crazier. Things. Yes, I understand yes, but you do t minimum that you yes. Yes yes, yes no, absolutely. The basis is. There all the way through t go check yourself, because I can only briefly when you sit and listen think yes but what is t? Look it up later. But the bottom line is you is T30 times. Yes yes da uh. Until you. Thirty times yes breathing in as much oxygen as possible very. Breathing in deep, breathing in very deep,
46:00very deep and just just thinking about your breathing. Yes, being there. That means you are not somewhere else. You are with your breathing. With that you are going to change your chemistry. Within thirty times you absolutely change your chemistry. Uh, at the cellular level, all over your body. And then comes what I can find really yes almost terrifyingly nice. Then comes the moment when you hold your breath. Yes, you t last breath full in, Yes, then you let m go and then you stop your stop after the exhale and then the you will see Oh, whether you are forty or thirty or twenty or eighty years old that you ge so at power. Are. Don't take another bite of air before t No, oh god, I do but wrong then too. Oh yes, then you must regard... ...honor and the next time we speak to each other or uh, if you t now. Do, oh then, we're gonna do m like that, we're gonna do it like that. No, but we really do. That you two, 3 minutes without an air in your lungs present, then. Can you uh.
47:00T is not about the length, t is about a natural ability. What he which everyone possesses to change the chemistry by means of targeted... ...specific breathing techniques. It's not a competition. The best in yourself is the word. The alchemist in yourself, you who can change chemistry. That's wa what I'm aiming for. And that can sometimes be one minute, sometimes 4 minutes, sometimes 3 minutes. It doesn't matter, have. You beforehand of. Again this is what comes back in other ways in in in in ancient literature and would also. Did you come across things about this or how, how uh. I've read everything in terms of esoteric disciplines. I've also done everything there before I was already seventeen. Yes, when I was twelve, I was already doing psychology, meditation, Buddhism, Hinduism, with Sufism I know what all and I was also doing this ns. But the cold water when I was seventeen, the first time I went in there, then I knew yes, this is it, Yes,
48:00this brought me at once. Afterwards that deep connection with myself, with own... ...physiology which goes beyond a thinking. Because what happens at that moment you are going to survive, you yes what is activated at that moment is the... ...brainstorm from the brain stem and that is the...<threedots/> ...deepest part of the brain. Well, that's where I learned to go, now in a conscious way. At some point you do learn to deal with that cold. Yes. And with those hypoxia states of breathing exercises and therefore suddenly those neural pathways go there. Um. And if you can go into the deepest part of your brain, where can't you? Then you can do everything, you want to say Yes! But you have been working on this since you were seventeen. You are, we all know that, just one big chunk of strength and positivity. And yes, that's what I find so intense about your life story then.
49:00And I do know that t l did later give to us kind of strength as well, but uh, your first wife commits suicide. Yes Olivia, who jumps off a roof, still has contact with you too or with your children? Yes, not with you. And I think then how can it be? How can it be? Yes, quite. Well, uh. Before she did she still kissed the children of which one gentleman is present goodbye. As little children as they were and I was working at that time in the in the mountains to earn money and yes, that happened and the other day I was there of course. And yes I saw that he B. that that she had the e in her face the in her shroud the being I saw the peace back because uh, she suffered from schizophrenia So uh, she had the eight personalities or so and uh, it was and manic depressive.
50:00That was not t the beginning of your. Relationship, I think. No, no, no, no, no, the one later that has now come in and that's a very heavy toll. Has been demanding that for years before that. And that's just a terror and she very beautiful woman, very sprightly and then suddenly so manic depressive. plo totally an inwardly beaten, a neurological neuro logical disorder huh she Uh, that's what they well say and do is actually those my worlds. collapses all at once and my heart was... ...broken and But you have to move on anyway because you have four kids with her and uh, I hate no money, I live here in Amsterdam and yeah barely any money. yeah, benefits and the or their benefits. Yes, we took pride in that. and four children yes uh. I did with ma what was by me there.
51:00At that time I began very consciously to pick up the cold water again. r a bigger and stronger. Why To at a time when you go into t cold water. Ice water don't you think? You are surviving, you are just there. Yes and that stilled my broken heart which all... ...worries you stop caring for my children. Likewise the sadness, the emotion. Cold is emotion, Heat is emotion. e uh. A broken heart causes a deep broken emotion. That's the energy you that has always e been one with a person. Those energies suddenly, those are suffering, because the it's granite. That supply drain isn't there. That's a broken heart and that's neurology. That interprets itself in the brain and because of that yes. V do you get a one in balance in the serotonin dopamine? I depri depression. Well, what did I do no just
52:00on a because I had to survive for my kids just be d'r and there's no question here at and the and society goes on like a train. So who you your catch the tear or on your last and the station and then z look it up, so it. Yes, there I sat and uh, my children made me survive. The cold healed me. And because of uh. Because I didn't have to think in that cold like that, I could very deeply rest myself for a moment. Just feeling that peace, just letting the energy come. Just uh. Not feeling that sadness. The The spell was broken for a moment and so I did that every day. And now Giel. am I to the point where I'm at the top of psychiatric psychiatry? Because then I was impotent. Then the psychiatrists were impotent.
53:00Just pills and injections and the and it didn't help anything at all. And now I'm to the point where I'm there e in the spear and E. In the spear Warhead of pioneering Science in saki... ...tri e the people demonstrate the psychiatrists What to do and ba ba what they're saying now in after the findings in the brain scans. What I demonstrate is we now have the compelling evidence of the key components of the attack recordings processes in the brain related to mood regulation mood regulation. That's emotion. And Death was autonomous. Autonomous beyond your control. Yeah, that's I mean, ultimately t gave you power and now you share this with the world. So it's good. But I can't help but get the impression that you occasionally think if only I'd just had this fucking knowledge sooner? Yes, because then you could have helped your own wife with it. yes, yes, yes, it i i. I think that my oni originally my mother
54:00caused me to look into that. Every human being actually has a mission in this world. and I became a missionary. ter during mo m my birth, namely my mother. uh. I'm one of twins, but at the time in 1959. There was d'r still and yes, no ultrasounds and death and that tu e They didn't know twins were coming and I was deep the in there and she already had one... ...Birthed and that was my brother and e brought back. of E. T is ready, That's a little afterbirth. Started holding your breath. Actually yes yes yes. No huh, literally man. Literally I'm purple in the ha ha. In the cold hall I was born and in the words of my mother Oh God, let that child live, I'll make sure he becomes a missionary. Uh, she was a Catholic, naive mother. But when a Catholic naive mother uh, says something like that...
55:00...then i then g grief that in the soul yes like a language tattoo. And that has always made me different from my twin brother. Yes, that's how that grew. I always went looking for esotericism, for huh, the unknown. And I didn't know where, because I had experienced all that trauma during that birth, but not consciously. No, I was just a helpless little purple thing. Only heard this later of course. So and later kind of regression I went into. by because yes, d'r gnawed something in there and I wanted to know what that was and E. And then I came across that cold and then I knew this Z And then I still didn't know that that related to that, But later with my mother I managed to recount that all in song and color. Yes and I was c the 48. 4949 near New York I had just done in ro world
56:00in Front of the Ruben Museum of Himalayan Art to the inauguration of the season of for that... ...museum and there I was going to stand for 1.5 hours or so in t ice in January outside in front of the museum. Had I done all but gloriously twenty camera teams. Because yes, one if anything. I saw myself and appearances. Were you busy. Yes, I saw myself and what's the name of that? that, that big screen there? Times Square. Yes yes, Times Square would crazy egg. I also said fuck and that's mine. I e I said I. I sat the newest. Your evening on was great but the other day I went to a biochemical... ...institute to be tested in True tone documentary me medical mysteries. Part of that was not allowed to be filmed in there, but we did the intake with the authority on the area of one of the authorities that
57:00provides the chi reuring for the Nobel Prize winners. Well, that's where I went. Doctor Kevin Tracey. I laid there on a couch. with an IV, blood drain and and the lung and heart meter and they used three machines because I bep uh. I started by doing breathing exercises and that makes you get a flat line after 2 minutes because you're dead. Yeah so and they didn't know that. So they kept bringing in a new machine and uh. But that blood was constantly being drawn. Yeah and I did that for 1.5 hours and after by the third... ...machine I was completely adrift. And then, a week later we got those blood results. What she wanted to show was that the vagus nerve, the twelfth nerve that controls a lot of our organs but is autonomic, but on. Also is directly connected. If you could control those, then you... ...actually control that which causes inflammation inflammation, inflammation or origin.
58:00of disease yes e and da uh. She wanted to see if maybe I could after all those... ...studies on humans with that same study. Same experiment model to which it was not shown. Maybe that Iceman who is such a weird person... ...maybe can see what it can. After a week later I got phone Wedeka from doctor small Kremlin authority in in America e she also the expedition doctor for all expeditions to Mount Everest and K2 he was also in the cracker. Well W1IK you know check. K mean he was about that. He is an authority. gone into that extreme. I did with him the later we became friends. i uh. I showed even crazier things. of what? Physiologically thought that can't be. But at that moment he called me with the results. He said Wim, if you're our ebel to rapper Deus, what you have
59:00a result it into then That means judge consequences for human man. Well e egg and T. He said So if you can reproduce this means the huge consequences for humanity. Well, then at that moment is conscious my missionary being is ge o awakened. Yes, half an hour later I got another phone. Uh, because I knew I could reproduce that we go to people. Just give me a group of people in the meantime we have done with the Radboud. But three years later, because she wanted that very institute was very strongly associated with pharmacy huh? So ge ha ha. She didn't want that in the end. Yes, and after the O. You don't want to know. What A behind the scenes what all that goes on. But money is money, and so on. But the Radboud broke ban here. Not just half an hour later, after that phone call from Dr. Ken Camels, who... ...told YouTube Consequences for human mankind. E uh, do I get a call? uh, your mother is dead. Che si. Task was. Accomplished. She said CEO Yes uh.
1:00And you talk a little bit about that. And I understand t also because t is a facking sensitive thing. But then how do you see that with your wife? Because what was that also still needed to. Yes happy well, what is happening right now in in the world, that is also God forgotten. Yes, all the wars that d'r. o, because the military lobbies and power lust leads. E people have no power over themselves. What I want to show is that happiness, strength and health, that that is innate, that everyone has that. Well, if you look like you're happy, you're not going to make war. Then you don't need power. Power is resigned. How many old is your area? How much expansion can you go into? How much? How big is your area and uh, you have to fill it all up. Why? Because you're not happy? Because you're so not educated.
1:01Because we live in a society that fundamentally on power B principle is what we've been relying on. That's what we. Lived and P. That's why we only have 16% of our brains in could control. Yes and what I say, 100% is there to serve us. Yes, and evolution there really didn't give us a lump of meat with it. Which ma vo partially goes to work. What do you think more often to. uh, every day, every day? I say my me my daughter here Yes e that looks be pretty much like her and e o also in terms of character also in terms of me the but e no, but what I want to bring we are we are yes mean I am also going to die at some point, n not by a long shot, but j ij ui He really makes me. Nothing at all, you don't care. Nothing matters. Uh, I just keep going until everyone is happy, powerful and healthy in choice. Yes to everyone. Because finally and that's what I want to bring her.
1:02Because she she's still there. Yes, yes, yes. Yes, yes, He she is not only there so always. I I uh. I get the two of those big rocks of five tons, one or four and a half through, under other 5.5... ...tons and and those are the big basalt, rocks are those. And I say e said put those upright, that there find k prettier e And then was put upright here and it looks just like Mary. It looks like a guardian angel. That's her. Beautiful beautiful beautiful beautiful, very beautiful And also beautiful how you well, actually, call t lighting or not uh. But actually those three things. That's what you say huh, that that's just yes what, some enlightenment. Yes, well enlightenment indeed. The nervous system electricity grid V in us is called the nervous system. We can indeed influence and control the autonomic nervous system. D it which is connected to the So could an Cathelijne... ...or what's it called t juice sides stress, the subconscious. Well,
1:03so that has become a fable. Yes. Yes boy, t is really t is t is t, t is so. But yes, we re so indoctrinated with thinking instead of feeling. And that's of course yes, yes what you did with that cold and with more things. Just feeling. Yes, being able to go into pure energy. Look uh, the principle of meditation is that you rehearse the i? Use your mantras for so and so and then that says that the t thinking mechanism of our brain that says then d'r is no danger, because I see that little thing and that comes back every time. So then that blood pressure goes through your blood pressure that is in those areas that is needed for alertness huh. Maybe there is danger, maybe this is nuisance and you have to pay attention to that and you have to do this and that is all in flags and that took a lot. blood pressure? that blood pressure that then goes down because t... ...is not needed on that for neural activity.
1:04That's meditations which makes the limbic system which is beyond that thinking brain e in our brains... ...that ge going to yield that. And then suddenly you feel timeless and you feel more comfortable. Yeah, just this we really should be experiencing every moment of every day. I wanted to talk to YOU about sex. Oh yes, oh, that's a yes no. But also because I find t a more difficult in this. Because on the one hand t is something very natural. You just t about actually all things that you do have to do with this. It's very instinctive, but I don't know are you familiar with the no fap movement? Oh, I don't know what to think about that in fact. But uh. Baker Well. What what? What those guys are claiming, Let me put it this way. Yes is okay, we... ...are in a in a society. To not make babies anymore or something. No, no no. Oh no no no no more deduction because we have the. We have been indoctrinated by sex. You see it everywhere porn is on the corner. Uh, you know? H the in the in in in in a they k Yes, in a menu you see more women than your ancestors. in their whole lives. Yes so Yes, yes.
1:05Yes e So they say huh the seed is precious they sit. Kind of life force. But I have so much seed man. Well yeah well but that the d. How, how do you deal with that can? You can you say, because that is kind of energy so can you then yes can you use that for I. Said I egg I said you have e i I i I do sometimes work with egg and worked a lot actually also with Professor Capel. It's a biochemist. well who tells one thing d who has that so after looked at the visited b. All under the microscope. Yes forty years of experience within biochemistry and so also D and A and the G t genome genes ex E gene IX expression. Yes yes, one of them is virility. yes viagra and so on. That's because that that gene expression from that is locked, there's a protein on it and and then you can't even release it and so on. Well, I know very well how to release those.
1:06I know very well how to e in there. Other than that I have another tip for people lol. And look, when you've made love and you feel uh, that all goes down, those hormones and everything that causes d that... ...sperm supply is blocked that takes longer, and so on. Well just go and spend 12 minutes together. those breathing exercises, then you'll feel like a horny bear again. Yes and d e yes yes, that's nice eh, besides that der we still have e wacky things. I e you in anecdote in M. I'm in Melbourne, am doing a retreat with people and from Eus, Australia, New Zealand, Japan and who yes they come there to learn and and I ask everyone to stand up for a moment. please introduce yourself and the H and the last one to stand up. This is a a therapist from New Zealand and... ...and yes yes yes, I don't know if I'm allowed to say all that, but yes, I do anyway but Yes,
1:07fact is a church say A what all those have done? Well uh, who is on that therapist physio therapist from New Zealand Nagel o and the who he says o Wim, you in pride, Need it my wife and I come from New Zealand. He said I said m. Supplying The Netherlands, New Zealand. I know my one is very big, but so big. Yeah, that was the fine huh huh? What it's about is the inflammation that d'r for... ...caused his wife not to be able to have children because those uterine infections are caused. And what we as humans no can't do anything about. That happens by we the society, the neurology, the stress and so forth becomes oxidative and then you get a that you get infections and e and that keeps you in that t and then you get ectopic heath. And all those kinds of things you don't control at all. And uh, he started doing those to.
1:08Breathing exercises with her and uh. After a month later they were going to go for in vitro fertilization? And that's hormonal. Uh, they cure this huh. All very difficult and very hard. And then death said Kaya, why are you here? You are ready at Your pregnant? Do ready for two weeks? I believe so. And and out. I said all that kind of sexual problems of people. I e e and feminism e I call t more humanism naturalism. We need to get back to our original... ...nature that is in each of us. Uh, that ultimately G comes from the B the source of happiness, strength and health and don't think so much, Just feel that, then you're there without fail. Love and. And yes actually. It's called. Love. Yes exactly. To an conditional love. Can you feel that? That's pure meditation, pure meditation.
1:09And we should be able to feel that all day long. And society and the systems that don't cause that, wow, they cause tension, because then you go against the nature of who we are. Do you go da da, then you go against that and now our power of o... ...our our mind our our our the power of our mind. Which is so far now. A neurologically. Because really, this is ten times more neural activity than in medieval times in our little head. And I yes. Ten times more. That means ten times more neural pressure and we do learn to deal with that. But uh, t is actually behind what's there and da what's there now. that if we at Meg are in a position to change the chemistry in the brain, knowingly huh, consciously, then we can start to create new neural pathways with the deepest parts of the brain and what...
1:10...other then not to achieve control that...<threedots/> ...ultimately lead to one thing who doesn't want to be happy? Exactly. And we're just going to learn that in school. And six Yes no da, that. Got me there too. That's where it starts. How? Uh, because t is pretty much going on, t Is very much going on D. I said earlier you are almost... ...better known abroad than here and and well, this huh. And t apparently needs time huh, before t in all layers. But you see for example I am not the j here in Amsterdam. I believe that in the rest of the Netherlands you have your example very much freejazz lab. I don't know if you know that, that's then that's much more about it. But it's also a bit about stress, but also about losing weight and so that you just really get into One in a cold cabin yes can you? Oh yes, we with one of those what's it called crew Cryo rooms crew Cryo chambers, I have. T never done, have to learn from. Have my hundred, but that is yes t e and t cost a lot of money. Yes and if you just go into t cold water then you have t same hear. Then you get t. On. And it actually works at better because cold via
1:11t water goes 25 times faster. does that work? on our physiology then? then d D yes, then that nitrogen or so. That to yes. Okay, I asked you too. I don't know if I thought about it to name three books that impressed you. Mmm. A Yes, I like to put together a sort of bookcase of all my guests with inspirational books. Well you've read a fucking lot uh. And D Well t used to be definitely dot Siddharta. And. you see there? Well uh. At one point he comes in a in in he in a boat and then you hear someone singing the the the man who accompanies the boat ge and bounces off on the... ...bottom and then floats on like a a gondola in Venice. And he's sitting there himself and he's his younger. I and he sees his older, I and the e. And the man singing uh, more mature, deeper, more beautiful actually. He's intrigued, but I still don't know who that is.
1:12Until one point that he's sitting. There I am. And those two, so that's me now. A Uh, when they ask me about Wim, what would you say to your 18-year-old alter ego from back then? I say yes jazz, chicken, poor man, chicken, Aretha. Go. Just keep going and keep going. Good book. That's one book one Book two Patanjali, the Yoga Sutras of Patanjali, Yoga Sutras? Yes, the yogis. Sutras of Patanjali you there with me uh, d'r is so much speculation, so much blabla so much abstract bullshit e ins grief but hinein. But there are t story or are t exercises that. Are those are verses okay verses. And t begins with the yes. If you know verse one then you can read the rest you don't even need to. And that's a bulky book. Top! And verse one goes like this Atta Yoga enthusiast took yoga shit tapered in red ha tada address touch black at was name. Or else This is an explanatory exposition of yoga.
1:13Yoga is the stilling of the modifications of the thinking brain. Then the seer is in himself. That is. If you understand that, then you don't need to read the rest. Well, book three and so I don't understand any of that at all. Oh, so I just went and read that whole book and that and it was super! Oh, meanwhile I know a lot of those sutras and those mantras completely by heart. I've been brushing up and learning my Sanskrit that way. Books. Uh, book number three. That was tune yes uh. I was working on a book and that based on science and done together somewhere with Koen de Jong. cold art is called t. But cold art with Koen. Yes, yes. Yes, but from Koen and uh. He came to tell me in Poland and when t book was not yet finished, said h in t whole but that he had spoken with
1:14professor Capel Pierre Capel, biochemist well, the one an authority in the field for. Me also has shown stone that your DNA in it changed away huh. Exactly. And that uh. That exposition came at that time there in Poland. That made me cry, because uh, you then get recognition for what you've always believed in. then suddenly get t in a in mirror from someone else, who then explained to me in great detail how we can indeed deeply influence DNA. And with that egg D and A ultimately we are genetically determined by our ancestors, we come back to those naive Indians and the o... ...original inhabitants who a you blow, you're a save and generations before and save generations after. We do have the power now. and we have demonstrated that scientifically to
1:15that DNA be what is connected to genetic background from t past and b what has consequences to t future to change that dramatically solving. Now that's called epi genetics. But we are going to uh. We are now working on those studies in America to show that there is much further to go. And there a lot of things going on again M and and and. I have to say we you just have to come by more often, because I still have a hundred thousand things I want to discuss. but what's coming up? Do you have any of your own or is or is. You actually looked now particularly t spreading t word, because relatively speaking ei you've had a number of years ge world records d'r to your name? But maybe you want Yes but that's no longer necessary huh. But next year I do want to do that is what well uh. We want to go climb Kilimanjaro in 00.00h in shorts and those who are going to sign up... ...those who are going to raise money oo partly for Serengeti,
1:16Masai Mara the the for wildlife. And. scientific research. The scientific research LA in which we show for example that uh. Through these breathing techniques we can also not only me, but everyone who is going to participate in this program. program to be able to climb that k mountain as such in shorts. That means after six kilometers in that and less than half of the oxygen is present and there we as human beings scientifically physiologically cannot do in 00.00h, because then you get a deficit and you get deficits and therefore you get headaches. You get the edema and that's die. You very dangerous and. So we show that it does. And with that I show that uh, regardless of age. uh. The last one I climbed the mountain still in eight and twa eight and 20.5...
1:17...hours along with e uh. The oldest participant, 76 years old, never climbed a mountain before that and that climbed with Lyme disease in 30 hours. And the the man did that and that one just transformed. What we. Five or uh. Yes yes yes that that will be on our website this month and that goes worldwide. And we make d'r a big documentary of it and... ...scientific research and a world record boom. Bam and and uh. Because what's all in store? I know t you i was busy with History Channel. Yes, yes, the is a lot of television going on. We are working on the German market right now. they are a lot big. From the biggest come names the biggest motivational speakers. Those come especially to training and this and that. Well da that is all going on in America. is there any research going on? in the area of DNA re mapping or the DNR? Yes they said as many as twelve years we know how Denia is put together, but we know that because we look through microscopes. But how we then. Will, so they know.
1:18We don't know that can go do that, but with this... ...technique we know that we are going to do a groundbreaking work there. Well there the uh, there we are working on bipolar... ...disorders aka g Mental disorders in the Michigan. D'r comes in a study was done on 3200 25... ...less people in Melbourne University who all did this methodology and yes, 51 people... ...who declare in the ha therein the who had cancer that they are cured. He e uh, of course that has to show and and e Yes, I think nature has solution for everything, only we have forgotten nature and its power, our potential. We are not connected to that. I'm going to keep going until we can... ...see and feel and understand and scientifically...<threedots/> ...prove that we are capable of much more...<threedots/>
1:19...and that we are capable of just ensuring our own happiness, And that means that uh. Regardless of cultural background or religion, that doesn't matter one bit. If you're happy you're happy and that makes the woman in the the the mother in Baghdad and in New York exactly the same. Yeah, what wa? What else would you want? For your son, for your, for your daughter? uh, happiness, Powerful health? What w what else? Yes, so therein we go. Those fundamental differences, that's where I'm going to keep going on to shine t light on that. Beyond that, there are eight more studies, seven or eight studies that they ei, that are in the... ...publication We've reproduced again and...<threedots/> ...continued Ella g Jeanne Lee by analyzed that there are actually on the road to inner strength as t actually should be. I know one and there are. Yes, I'm going to pass the mic here by the way. Remember if you want a question, this is the time. one I know you don't care about that, but I
1:20really like t anyway. You know, you're not in the country that often and then I don't hear you at all talking in Dutch. What do you think is one of the coolest... ...things you've experienced lately? And I don't even mean it so much in, in, in, at science or look at me meeting people. I make honor uh, when was t A last Friday? Friday I have a a j had an annual... ...reunion of We have an academy these days. We train people on the word a therapist Yes... ...and there are doctors, architects uh. But also carpenters. It doesn't matter. Anyone who is motivated, is in a position to learn this methodology which... ...is very effective and very accessible. Well we h da uh, we have people in Australia a or yes in Australia and America in Japan and you s even in China. here in Holland Europe t are uh.
1:21The annual reunion was last Friday and d'r come one woman who the i kwa. Came to the microphone for a moment to tell. her story. Her story was namely that said hearty beautiful... ...woman and boutique living at Ibiza house and aby house in Amsterdam and then you get breast cancer and then your breasts a have to be taken off to because... ...you have malignant tumors and da uh, for that you need. uh, chemotherapy. And that chemotherapy, uh, that can d'r maybe ensure that he that you end up having that mastectomy or so the breast doesn't have to be taken off how. Yeah, either way, but you need some white blood cells for that. Your defense system, that just has to be up to par, otherwise you can't get that... ...chemistry out of that the what's it called? that that cure doesn't go in. Well uh, she had done that three
1:22times and then her blood corpuscles. Those had gone down drastically and she couldn't do anything about it and they said yes, we yes, shall we now? Yes, it continues, we can no longer do anything actually for you. uh, if t continues like this. We have stopped and uh. And then she was on her way from Ibiza to Amsterdam. On the plane an article about me. From within a week you can heart boost your auto immune see system e career and she um uh. And then she saw cold art in the store... ...lying around and the person who picked her up at the airport E who talked about me. Well that was three birds with one stone. Boom and w she was going to do it. Week later she gets to the doctor e z e and she go k you see what there how my blood levels e well are with the white blood cells that had tripled. That means she could finish that cure there and the doctor. There she a. What did you do? And uh.
1:23Then she talked about this about those breathing exercises, those cold showers and e and so on. And she was all over it Gusto. K mean otherwise, otherwise you die. Life and death thing. That's mindset. That's mindset. Completely. And to that end you are also by powers. If you have control over yourself and you do have that when you and E. The woman you lift the car because there is such a d'ronder there. Those are those moments huh, they exist. But there, that's not how we were schooled. But at such a moment ko you come into contact with that mindset. She started doing that. A week later 300% and medically uh, that's not possible at all. But that kind of story, she said, is wonderful now. Two beautiful breasts, she looks heartbroken. And uh, she loves me. And I yes I understand why that's love. Beautiful Wim, really what a what of inspiration.
1:24I'm going to circulate the microphone for a moment. If there are people who want to ask a question this is your chance. Is there anyone who dares to say what he wants? Yes. thank you Giel. Wim question There are obviously a lot of J. You talk about the CEP s the skeptics in the world and. That took you a long time to. Convincing people. Now you're just telling about for example that Mr. in his seventies who climbs that mountain and thirty, 76, 76. Yes you have. Well, d'r come of course also people who are going to do your trainings. Do or the trainings of your people. And they are like it's not going to work out and. They try to resist it. Are there now people who at some point you are not too open to and so you can't open them up to your theories and ideas? Do they sometimes fail? Yeah sure. If you don't feel like it and don't push it, then that power also just goes back to your old conditioned heid, to your old thinking like that eel. Opening up to it yes if you uh. I always say we the first time I did that huh, here in the Netherlands,
1:25I we still came to Pauw Witteman was there then Pauw and Witteman? Kuyt I still came to visit eh, to tell about that. And yes, they explain me a bit. Then you were really a bit, you know like crazy in Serie. A is there crazy? We so of we what that man says that Yes that he can but not, remember Witteman. Uh. Down in the vestibule I ran into m for a while. I said Yes you. Yes uh, there are more people who get up like that and then think they can do anything. Yes, he but who has proven that contrary then b that that is not k me my neighbor, a very wise neighbor in Mr. and old West who said you had there what can't be done has never happened... ...ei and e and then e I come Witteman d who of which said yes well then I will become such a guru and this and that... ...and such a oh uh, t is all but e o e b What is her name again? that woman yes, Jomanda e that uh, that syndrome, who at one point we ring on such a Pelle with the water state. Yes and then she was going to bless it and every bottle then became $5 or five guilder euros. yes, yes, in Australia
1:26that is even more expensive by the way huh? And there is no Jomanda and not even e e where the OM goes yes at that time. First time is e e from unknown E of Kilimanjaro going to climb in three days huh, three days with... ...people with the oldest at that time. The first time I did that 65 years, three and four bypasses, coronary bypass one person who had cancer and... ...prostate cancer e two he had severe rheumatism there people with this Crohn's disease asthma. 26 people, but all motivated, That's it. You just have to have that motivation. Those lead to a body completely changed within four months. Yeah, they filled that out and we didn't do this in three days and two days. Then I came back. so still encountered disbelief.
1:27Yeah and A the things of I'm just going to go through with it because what I feel, that's just so and she so it is. On someone else. So yeah. Motivation. know me. A lot of Dutch people live by the beautiful North Sea. Which is what. I also live by the North Sea. What is the tip to do every day? until the beginning of t spring just walk into the sea. Yes, I could shower a day keeps the doctor away. Yes, uh, if you are talking about the the gravity of not... ...exposing yourself to cold uh, if you are going to talk about that then yes, you are talking about... ...killer number one in our society. That's cardiovascular-related diseases and the quality of t life related to blood flow. Absolutely. That's, yes, maybe billions of people in the this western... ...world who suffer from that and by going into the cold
1:28in a gradual way don't force it. you learn after only ten days or so m er is your vascular... ...condition such that you can go take a 111 nice splash all winter? in the North Sea And everyone should do that. You know what's irresponsible? That Unix to condition d'r in d e e in January, when you shocked everyone at once with poor fitness. Of which you. Da da that the e. No, those people are motivated though. That's good, that's excellent. Because of that, it will also probably cause an adrenaline boost. Need one too at a time like that. Yes but then with those people are in terms of fitness vascular fitness not up to it, not trained to actually that shocking. Steps out of a shock. Is d'r because there's a difference in that there's no adjustments. and by extending those cold showers it uh. In two weeks you'll then be able to make a splash
1:29and fully controlled enter that water. And obviously and with that you have the right vascular fitness. We talk about fitness from Marcels and this and that. And yes, nice huh, I look nice and I know what all. Yes but we have t millions of little muscles in our vascular system. Now if we start training those. And what's that called? Vascular fitness? That should be a new craze. And with it we tackle killer number one who claims more than any war claims in casualties. Everyone wants a question. Wim, uh. Nowadays you see more and more, also in medical science that also holistic. Doctors are becoming more and more important. But do you also see at some point that for example your method then at some point also saw through insurance then? Because I can imagine that if. I hear that like that, a lot of prevention said Yes, yes, can do. Oh yes, but yes but I mean I. I do come up with the Iceman training and so on.
1:30And that is all still only at for a certain group of people. They pay a considerable amount of money for that, but to make it also accessible then for... ...people say within their uh. Because that would of course be fantastic right? And he is there is there, ie are there too. I am already working with mainstream health care in America and there it is already accredited. as it is called. me uh. We have now developed a program for one hundred 40,000, sisters and and and and doctors in America who are spreading it... ...at in elder homes or retirement homes and then uh. She said uh. They see so much success in that that they say because uh, we're not going for a hundred thousand O100, 40,000 sisters and nurses and and doctors, we're going for a hundred thousand elderly rooms for everything. Well and If America starts picking up then yes, then. M follows row vo or also the Netherlands. That one always follows meekly. Uh, if you don't go backwards into whatever world you are entering and whatever walls you will
1:31run into when it comes to the drug companies you mention. This is big time huh. And we, we, we may be fighting a losing battle here but uh, we're going to get used to it. Yes, yes, early. In the old days, drugs were given to make people better. Nowadays, we use drugs to make sure that people don't get sick against high blood pressure and and and and cholesterol reducers. But your methods, of course, just make it work very nicely. Yes, yes, the immune system is up to us. The pharmacy is in our awakening to that. Or were all the questions there just now? Is snow? Yes, okay. Please. Yes, thank you. say Wim, I hear you just tell about in the Netherlands. is it a little less? Comes t a little less through than abroad huh? And now I hear you also tell a lot. well say, where? How are we sitting for 1.5 hours now? And then I hear you using a lot of text and... ...little preliminaries of whatever it is you actually want to bring up. So the first thing I thought of is did you maybe miss your cold bath today? Why?
1:32Because wanting to say a lot in A very short... ...time obviously also sucked for that your amygdala huh. That you're going to be in your stress mode now anyway and that you really want to get something across. Uh, but I get a lot of information and I think... ...how could you, uhm, regulate yourself to make sure that your message can be conveyed even more resolutely Yes, what a nice question. Uh, I had my cold bath today by the way just lovely and I was just ready to go to yellow which I uh, I don't know how many years ago was the WA. I in they radio program in Hilversum was just a quick in and out. Then I was still the it yes. Is one the freak actually? the circus artist and so on. And there now I get more of a platform to explain things and I do that through hundreds of podcast, maybe a thousand and then all over the world and the very biggest. And uh, now I'm back here in the Netherlands. Yes, yes,
1:33I am finally. I made the circle, I'm back again, I'm back again and Holland wa wake up but, because I'm back. Mmm. Because uh, invite me because a yes I so anyway. Is t after all something what frustrated you I can very well. Imagine. Or yes is sta ui is logical huh? Yes, if you are initiated all the time, if you have to me with core t but and with V and ground level all the time. Yes, while hey, you want much further and you see that much more can e And that frustrates. But i I've learned to deal with those frustrations. Mm hu and that that's actually a patience exercise. And I I I do call science ns w yes science... ...is fast and they slow turt uh. So science is as fast as a to slow series. slow turtle.
1:34I have I but J. In the end we win from the From the Hare, from that restlessness, from that stress, from that amygdala, that loot a I wanted to show, huh? The no, I uh, I am here as I am. In an all calm and all strength I am here and z d this is my soul, this is how I am. I can also be very calm, but not well. Someone else yet. Oh yes. yes, I did have a little question. Giel, who indicated that. That last one. test has done with your ADHD. You did indicate. Yes you almost did something like that yes. Adhd you see that quite often. In children that is diagnosed. T Is actually uh, well. S If a child is a little busy then they often get stamped ADHD or ADHD. How do you see your technique in relation to ADHD'er and how do you see that in. Younger people or in children? Well that and so Scherder who mentions that who says uh, we need to exercise more huh? That Scherder, Professor Scherder now a neurologist. But uh,
1:35I say ij listen from childhood. There innate. have at the power uh. Within us and the natural course of neurological growth we can just keep up with, unless he has to perform all the time while we an different in me. And that there is a one 111111 way t is sometimes... ...explained of the d'r is in a monkey, d'r is a bear, d'r is a one in fish. Yes, a fish in an aquarium will be that or something? e e and and another animal. And the who is t best at climbing? Well if everyone has to learn to climb because everyone in this society has to maintain society and so has to learn and E. And that's the measurement system, then the monkey will win. And the fish,
1:36that will go down completely and the e and the and E and the horse too and the elephant too and so on and so forth. We are all different. But we all have one thing in common. Happiness. Happiness. If we learn that happiness movement... ...in elementary school and that in addition to mathematics, history and language we also get happiness, strength and health, then nothing will ever go wrong. And uh, this... ...kind of mental disorders mental disorders. yeah, that and depression is the so big problems guys. uh. That problem doesn't have to be there at all. If you deal with that consciously and the margin is very... ...big then k you don't get out of. balance. And that's where you get to learn to keep a a control over your own being. You actually learn to deal with your own mind.
1:37That's where he's a little short. Then ask ehm, would you? How would you, for example. Because so there are quite a lot of kids that get stamped on like that. Uhm, yeah, what would you say then? What people kitchen parents should do with that or something? Or what about those breathing exercises and you b... ...yellow e you did with under gulp in and so you shouldn't do that. No out what has to do with the action and too much action? Too much oxygen? That's that neurology that keeps on having excessive. Well, if you change the supply of the chemistry so... ...reduce and you do that consciously and then it stops. Sorry it's so simple. No yes yes yes yes, say no. And so um, let those researchers get on that. Every neurologist listening to this s uh, listen carefully,
1:38we have the solution within us. And One each of us don't do so complicated, just investigate. Clear. I saw one more question there and I think that's the last one then. I think that would be nice. Nice to hear you all have such good questions here. Yes, love it! Yes Wim, if you say that you can get your body totally under control by training, then we could draw two conclusions one No one needs to die anymore in the world of diseases and two if you are sick, for example you have everything or cancer or something else terrible, then you wouldn't need to have that if you train your body a bit better. Just two violent proposition hear, but they play through your head then. Yes, ge e I. I have a contact with or yes an acquaintance v a... ...friend do I ever work at Dave Asper? Devil spray and yes earns a hundred mil hundreds... ...millions and no that you do all kinds of things and that wants to live to be a hundred eighty. I say what da?
1:39Ask one hundred eighty Yes I know few names a life, your girlfriends and friends and your family who lives no more and then you get, you get behind, behind, behind, behind retarded grandchildren maybe or something. Euh, I know what. Um, that's meant very funny indeed. But he he asked me o uh. I was in his podcast among other things and the and asked that me Wim, do you know what is? uh, I never ask this question. I um, I I never ask this question. But uh, do you know what is enlightenment? And yes, me I I never ask this question, but he w yes uh. I think I'm a wise man and I've done so much and and I've also done so much and I'm also wise, occasionally not wise, but t is also wise e anyway I say yes, he and and and put it down in one line. And he said The whole bible, his korans, his d'rover...
1:40...written and about enlightenment and baking we cast resin and torah ns and I know what all... ...one I have to put this down one line. I say yes okay, here it comes t. I say yes, jazz, be happy, strong and healthy and the rest is bullshit. And with that I am showing something fundamental, which is that we have lost the the faith and the in that strength in to t happiness and in that health and... ...thereby not knowing the soul that we actually have. And Z. That soul that is alive, just like a flower that grows, grows, grows and makes San San, San, San, saint boom and limon, because that is consciousness, that dilates e expanding con business. The what is it called? Consciousness expansion. Expanding consciousness. And at some point the subconscious becomes conscious.
1:41Then the flower is there and there you can see and very... ...electromagnetic pictures and I know what all e nowadays with all the tools we have in science. with brain scanners you can see all that. It's time for us to go the d era or e the t. Time to go into the soul and demonstrate... ...that the source of our being fearless which...<threedots/> ...is where the soul is experienced as we are. And there is happiness, there is strength, there is health and then there is no more question to answer. Everything is there. It's really not an answer to your question, but it's a beautiful story. I do think it's a beautiful answer, but yes, I'm trying to get a yes I understand. I'm very good at not answering questions. That's where I am. Also very in this case. Yes I think I, I take t you so. A lesson and all those. Things. Because we are fundamentally wrong with our uh, education and physiology. Because of that, we get oxidative stress. We get inflammation,
1:42then don't know how to deal with that the idea. And then you get me things like ales. Well, I was working on ales here in the Netherlands with the honor one person and um, who had such a big gain in that. We started talking to the professor in Utrecht. The the the authorities on everything with this director, with the treasurer and with those who causes Amsterdam Swim. I did that myself another time and the E and and B. I just get zero on our appeal while we were showing such a profit with someone who actually had ál everything. Yeah then i you. It's fighting a losing battle and until you... ...don't stop and keep going you're going to win. And da uh, that's what I want to show that we are actually... ...born with all the everything we need to be happy, powerful and healthy it. And the rest is bullshit.
1:43Keep fighting at least win. But you do. Yes, I'm not afraid of that. Yes I hope I I I I. Well I'm very glad you're here at well, uh, I've called t myself koek roes and non-existent word, but that's actually about everything you say. Just a coincidence that that's called Koekie Roux. But my daughter, who had e a song and it's called Koekie Roekoe. Ah Koekie, roekoe. Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes. And he and she showed it to me. Here. Uh, in this building. Yes, really. Yes, yes, that things just came together. Then we're just there again. Yes, nice yes. Uh, may I have a round of applause for Wim Hof? No. Thank you Willem for the thank you Is super nice that you wanted to be here and thank you. We're going to do it more often Think are really sure. Yes. Nice start. Yeah, we don't have gloves either. Are we doing the glove? Yes, Choo Choo. too. Route eight. Oeh cho hi! Oeh. oeh, if you guys do oe a. You guys do! Ah. Oeh ah ah.
1:44ah yes. Oe ah yes. Oeh ah, out you, eh. Oh yeah, Oh a yeah yeah. Oni. Cho Ah ah eh. This is what I do with people barefoot in the snow. And then they stand in the snow for half an hour. Barefoot. And it's not because they don't have money for shoes. One more joke Louis Weasley or something? so? Robert. Yes, thank you. Beautiful Really.