Wim Hof Interview Full Episode The Tim Ferriss Show Podcast
00:00so I'm recording uh could you just tell so I'm recording uh could you just tell me maybe what you had for breakfast yeah me maybe what you had for breakfast yeah me maybe what you had for breakfast yeah nothing I had nothing for breakfast I nothing I had nothing for breakfast I nothing I had nothing for breakfast I never eat breakfast okay only just once never eat breakfast okay only just once never eat breakfast okay only just once a day all right we're goingon to talk a day all right we're goingon to talk a day all right we're goingon to talk about that for sure let me just pause about that for sure let me just pause about that for sure let me just pause this optimal minim at this altitude I this optimal minim at this altitude I this optimal minim at this altitude I can run flat out for a half mile before can run flat out for a half mile before can run flat out for a half mile before my hands start shaking can I ask you a my hands start shaking can I ask you a my hands start shaking can I ask you a personal question now this a broken time personal question now this a broken time personal question now this a broken time what if I did the opposite I'm a what if I did the opposite I'm a what if I did the opposite I'm a cybernetic organism living tossue over cybernetic organism living tossue over cybernetic organism living tossue over metal metal metal [Music] [Music] [Music] this episode is brought to you by this episode is brought to you by this episode is brought to you by audible which I've used for years I love audible which I've used for years I love audible which I've used for years I love audiobooks and I have two to recommend audiobooks and I have two to recommend audiobooks and I have two to recommend right off the bat number one is perhaps right off the bat number one is perhaps right off the bat number one is perhaps my favorite Audi book of all time and my favorite Audi book of all time and my favorite Audi book of all time and that is the graveyard book by Neil that is the graveyard book by Neil that is the graveyard book by Neil Gaiman The only audio book I've wanted Gaiman The only audio book I've wanted Gaiman The only audio book I've wanted to immediately listen to a second time to immediately listen to a second time to immediately listen to a second time as soon as I finished it's amazing you as soon as I finished it's amazing you as soon as I finished it's amazing you all thank me the graveyard book the
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04:00for his ability to withstand extreme for his ability to withstand extreme cold he is a creator of the Wim Hoff cold he is a creator of the Wim Hoff cold he is a creator of the Wim Hoff method and holds more than 20 World method and holds more than 20 World method and holds more than 20 World Records he is in my mind the outlier of Records he is in my mind the outlier of Records he is in my mind the outlier of outliers not because he does so many outliers not because he does so many outliers not because he does so many absurd things and proves that these absurd things and proves that these absurd things and proves that these Impossibles are in fact possible but he Impossibles are in fact possible but he Impossibles are in fact possible but he routinely asks scientists to scrutinize routinely asks scientists to scrutinize routinely asks scientists to scrutinize and validate these Feats that's what and validate these Feats that's what and validate these Feats that's what makes him very very unique and very makes him very very unique and very makes him very very unique and very interesting for this type of interesting for this type of interesting for this type of conversation what are some of his Feats conversation what are some of his Feats conversation what are some of his Feats well in 2007 he climbed path the death well in 2007 he climbed path the death well in 2007 he climbed path the death zone altitude on Mount Everest which zone altitude on Mount Everest which zone altitude on Mount Everest which which is around uh 7,500 M wearing which is around uh 7,500 M wearing which is around uh 7,500 M wearing nothing but shorts 2009 he completed a nothing but shorts 2009 he completed a nothing but shorts 2009 he completed a full Marathon above the polar Circle in full Marathon above the polar Circle in full Marathon above the polar Circle in Finland in temperatures close to -20° C Finland in temperatures close to -20° C Finland in temperatures close to -20° C again dressed in nothing but shorts he again dressed in nothing but shorts he again dressed in nothing but shorts he holds the Guinness world record for the holds the Guinness world record for the holds the Guinness world record for the longest ice bath which is around 1 hour longest ice bath which is around 1 hour longest ice bath which is around 1 hour 53 minutes and 12 seconds but it's not 53 minutes and 12 seconds but it's not 53 minutes and 12 seconds but it's not just cold he has run full marathons in just cold he has run full marathons in just cold he has run full marathons in the Namib Desert without any water he the Namib Desert without any water he the Namib Desert without any water he has also had toxins injected into has also had toxins injected into has also had toxins injected into himself under doctor supervision and himself under doctor supervision and himself under doctor supervision and demonstrated that he can effectively demonstrated that he can effectively demonstrated that he can effectively control his autonomic immune response control his autonomic immune response control his autonomic immune response resp this is crazy talk uh these are
05:00resp this is crazy talk uh these are resp this is crazy talk uh these are things that fly in the face of many things that fly in the face of many things that fly in the face of many textbooks and now he is featured in textbooks and now he is featured in textbooks and now he is featured in textbooks himself because he has textbooks himself because he has textbooks himself because he has documented all of this and it's not just documented all of this and it's not just documented all of this and it's not just a whim specialty he is not a mutant uh a whim specialty he is not a mutant uh a whim specialty he is not a mutant uh he is able to train others to achieve he is able to train others to achieve he is able to train others to achieve many of these same effects and abilities many of these same effects and abilities many of these same effects and abilities in some cases with just four days of in some cases with just four days of in some cases with just four days of training so we'll dig into all this and training so we'll dig into all this and training so we'll dig into all this and more I loved this conversation he is a more I loved this conversation he is a more I loved this conversation he is a human guinea pig of human guinea pigs human guinea pig of human guinea pigs human guinea pig of human guinea pigs certainly and makes me feel like an certainly and makes me feel like an certainly and makes me feel like an amateur so without further ado please amateur so without further ado please amateur so without further ado please enjoy my conversation with whm enjoy my conversation with whm enjoy my conversation with whm Hoff welcome to the show whim I'm so Hoff welcome to the show whim I'm so Hoff welcome to the show whim I'm so pleased to have you great thank you for pleased to have you great thank you for pleased to have you great thank you for welcoming me this way thank you very welcoming me this way thank you very welcoming me this way thank you very much I been a fan for quite a few years much I been a fan for quite a few years much I been a fan for quite a few years because we have as we mentioned before because we have as we mentioned before because we have as we mentioned before we started recording a mutual friend in we started recording a mutual friend in we started recording a mutual friend in Ray cronise and he was in my second book Ray cronise and he was in my second book Ray cronise and he was in my second book so I looked very closely at Cold so I looked very closely at Cold so I looked very closely at Cold exposure and of course you the icean exposure and of course you the icean exposure and of course you the icean came up over and over again so it's
06:00came up over and over again so it's came up over and over again so it's really nice to finally chat with you really nice to finally chat with you really nice to finally chat with you it's I feel like it's been a long time it's I feel like it's been a long time it's I feel like it's been a long time coming and also had two past guests or coming and also had two past guests or coming and also had two past guests or three past guests on this podcast uh three past guests on this podcast uh three past guests on this podcast uh lared Hamilton and Brian McKenzie and lared Hamilton and Brian McKenzie and lared Hamilton and Brian McKenzie and also um Gabby Reese LED's wife who are also um Gabby Reese LED's wife who are also um Gabby Reese LED's wife who are big fans of your methods and techniques big fans of your methods and techniques big fans of your methods and techniques who've been practicing it so they are uh who've been practicing it so they are uh who've been practicing it so they are uh you you have a lot a lot of fans out you you have a lot a lot of fans out you you have a lot a lot of fans out there I'm sure listening as well and I there I'm sure listening as well and I there I'm sure listening as well and I thought we could just start with uh your thought we could just start with uh your thought we could just start with uh your name I've always l your name is whim name I've always l your name is whim name I've always l your name is whim your full name yes w i m whim and and your full name yes w i m whim and and your full name yes w i m whim and and does that does it have any particular does that does it have any particular does that does it have any particular meaning or how did your parents choose meaning or how did your parents choose meaning or how did your parents choose that name wh is a a common name in the that name wh is a a common name in the that name wh is a a common name in the in Holland in the Netherlands but I in Holland in the Netherlands but I in Holland in the Netherlands but I looked it up and uh it says it's the looked it up and uh it says it's the looked it up and uh it says it's the protector of the people you know any protector of the people you know any protector of the people you know any name has got some eological uh uh roots name has got some eological uh uh roots name has got some eological uh uh roots to it my name is uh the protector of
07:00to it my name is uh the protector of to it my name is uh the protector of people my brother's name who is my twin people my brother's name who is my twin people my brother's name who is my twin brother is Andre Andre on France Andre brother is Andre Andre on France Andre brother is Andre Andre on France Andre Andrew like Andrew he's the protector of Andrew like Andrew he's the protector of Andrew like Andrew he's the protector of goods so who's better I don't know I I goods so who's better I don't know I I goods so who's better I don't know I I suppose you need both you need both suppose you need both you need both suppose you need both you need both types of protection right and um you types of protection right and um you types of protection right and um you have such a fascinating story and you have such a fascinating story and you have such a fascinating story and you have a lot of accolades a lot of Records have a lot of accolades a lot of Records have a lot of accolades a lot of Records I think more than 20 world records at I think more than 20 world records at I think more than 20 world records at this point it seems this point it seems this point it seems uh what was the first world record that uh what was the first world record that uh what was the first world record that you set the first was in Paris uh just you set the first was in Paris uh just you set the first was in Paris uh just staying half hour in immersed in staying half hour in immersed in staying half hour in immersed in ice and uh 12 days later I repeated uh ice and uh 12 days later I repeated uh ice and uh 12 days later I repeated uh uh the record time and make it made made uh the record time and make it made made uh the record time and make it made made it an hour in uh Hollywood actually yes it an hour in uh Hollywood actually yes it an hour in uh Hollywood actually yes and I saw one also I mean you've you've and I saw one also I mean you've you've and I saw one also I mean you've you've been you spent a lot of time in ice been you spent a lot of time in ice been you spent a lot of time in ice baths and I've uh
08:00baths and I've uh baths and I've uh uh largely influenced by you and a uh largely influenced by you and a uh largely influenced by you and a handful of other people Tim noes Ray and handful of other people Tim noes Ray and handful of other people Tim noes Ray and a huge fan of ice baths and my fans a huge fan of ice baths and my fans a huge fan of ice baths and my fans always complain about it but I've seen always complain about it but I've seen always complain about it but I've seen you in so many containers full of ice I you in so many containers full of ice I you in so many containers full of ice I saw one where it looks like there was a saw one where it looks like there was a saw one where it looks like there was a lot of Chinese or Japanese in the lot of Chinese or Japanese in the lot of Chinese or Japanese in the background um what is what has been the background um what is what has been the background um what is what has been the most challenging cold exposure uh most challenging cold exposure uh most challenging cold exposure uh experience that you've had whether it's experience that you've had whether it's experience that you've had whether it's for records or anything else maybe uh for records or anything else maybe uh for records or anything else maybe uh losing my sight while I was swimming losing my sight while I was swimming losing my sight while I was swimming underneath underneath underneath a a ice deck of almost one a a ice deck of almost one a a ice deck of almost one meter had no goggles on so I lost side meter had no goggles on so I lost side meter had no goggles on so I lost side at 35 M something like 40 yards and uh I at 35 M something like 40 yards and uh I at 35 M something like 40 yards and uh I lost the hole and uh yeah things like lost the hole and uh yeah things like lost the hole and uh yeah things like that happen it happened over that happen it happened over that happen it happened over there right there with a meter ice deck there right there with a meter ice deck there right there with a meter ice deck above me so uh yeah that was some great above me so uh yeah that was some great above me so uh yeah that was some great experience another one was experience another one was
09:00experience another one was uh losing my uh way uh on Mount Everest uh losing my uh way uh on Mount Everest uh losing my uh way uh on Mount Everest in shorts and uh at like 18,000 feet in in shorts and uh at like 18,000 feet in in shorts and uh at like 18,000 feet in a in a blizzard in a like a wi out so a in a blizzard in a like a wi out so a in a blizzard in a like a wi out so things like that happen yeah and uh they things like that happen yeah and uh they things like that happen yeah and uh they are challenging but then it throws me are challenging but then it throws me are challenging but then it throws me back to you know the depth of myself back to you know the depth of myself back to you know the depth of myself which is trust and confidence and I got which is trust and confidence and I got which is trust and confidence and I got it what do you say to yourself in one of it what do you say to yourself in one of it what do you say to yourself in one of those moment so I guess physiologically those moment so I guess physiologically those moment so I guess physiologically did your did your retinas just freeze or did your did your retinas just freeze or did your did your retinas just freeze or when you were swimming under the ice when you were swimming under the ice when you were swimming under the ice deck in in a moment like that when many deck in in a moment like that when many deck in in a moment like that when many people would panic I mean did you panic people would panic I mean did you panic people would panic I mean did you panic if so how what was the mental selft talk if so how what was the mental selft talk if so how what was the mental selft talk when you realized that was happening when you realized that was happening when you realized that was happening very interesting it is the stress level very interesting it is the stress level very interesting it is the stress level at the at that moment is absent is not at the at that moment is absent is not at the at that moment is absent is not there I'm just dealing with the there I'm just dealing with the there I'm just dealing with the situation and it has been shown in situation and it has been shown in situation and it has been shown in University that our stress levels the
10:00University that our stress levels the University that our stress levels the stress hormone levels are able to be stress hormone levels are able to be stress hormone levels are able to be raised H lying in bed more than somebody raised H lying in bed more than somebody raised H lying in bed more than somebody in fear for the first time going into a in fear for the first time going into a in fear for the first time going into a bungy jump oh going into a jump doing a bungy jump oh going into a jump doing a bungy jump oh going into a jump doing a bungee jump for the first time yeah yeah bungee jump for the first time yeah yeah bungee jump for the first time yeah yeah but not me but because a bung jump you but not me but because a bung jump you but not me but because a bung jump you you you're attached but very unexpected you you're attached but very unexpected you you're attached but very unexpected situations in in nature like a blizzard situations in in nature like a blizzard situations in in nature like a blizzard or swimming beneath ice and losing uh or swimming beneath ice and losing uh or swimming beneath ice and losing uh the hole because your eye side is gone the hole because your eye side is gone the hole because your eye side is gone things like that or uh climbing without things like that or uh climbing without things like that or uh climbing without gear steep mountains and uh having gear steep mountains and uh having gear steep mountains and uh having cramps and what do you do at that moment cramps and what do you do at that moment cramps and what do you do at that moment and that that's exactly what I learned and that that's exactly what I learned and that that's exactly what I learned how to raise consciously the stress how to raise consciously the stress how to raise consciously the stress hormone level purely controlled and I'm hormone level purely controlled and I'm hormone level purely controlled and I'm able to deal with the situation at that
11:00able to deal with the situation at that able to deal with the situation at that moment without panicking and I think moment without panicking and I think moment without panicking and I think that's one of the crucial findings which that's one of the crucial findings which that's one of the crucial findings which could benefit for human mankind as it is could benefit for human mankind as it is could benefit for human mankind as it is you know very subjected to stress all you know very subjected to stress all you know very subjected to stress all the time panicking having fear and all the time panicking having fear and all the time panicking having fear and all that and I learned in nature how to deal that and I learned in nature how to deal that and I learned in nature how to deal with that and the cult brought me uh with that and the cult brought me uh with that and the cult brought me uh brought me that science brought me that brought me that science brought me that brought me that science brought me that uh knowledge wisdom actually and the the uh knowledge wisdom actually and the the uh knowledge wisdom actually and the the raising of stress hormones so so raising of stress hormones so so raising of stress hormones so so controlling something that has long been controlling something that has long been controlling something that has long been thought to be part of the autonomous thought to be part of the autonomous thought to be part of the autonomous nervous system something that you have nervous system something that you have nervous system something that you have no control over right and we'll get to no control over right and we'll get to no control over right and we'll get to the breathing because breathing is very the breathing because breathing is very the breathing because breathing is very interesting since it's both a autonomous interesting since it's both a autonomous interesting since it's both a autonomous but you can you can consciously control but you can you can consciously control but you can you can consciously control it and practice different methods uh I it and practice different methods uh I it and practice different methods uh I think it was it was certainly in the think it was it was certainly in the think it was it was certainly in the vice documentary that recently came out vice documentary that recently came out vice documentary that recently came out which I recommend to everyone and I'll which I recommend to everyone and I'll which I recommend to everyone and I'll link to in the show notes but was it in link to in the show notes but was it in link to in the show notes but was it in 2011 that you were injected with some 2011 that you were injected with some 2011 that you were injected with some type of virus or bacteria to see if you
12:00type of virus or bacteria to see if you type of virus or bacteria to see if you could control the immune response that could control the immune response that could control the immune response that was at the uh Dutch I'm going to was at the uh Dutch I'm going to was at the uh Dutch I'm going to mispronounce this the radwood university mispronounce this the radwood university mispronounce this the radwood university exactly rbout University in Holland and exactly rbout University in Holland and exactly rbout University in Holland and the Intensive Care nuclear science I uh the Intensive Care nuclear science I uh the Intensive Care nuclear science I uh underwent a an experiment and they underwent a an experiment and they underwent a an experiment and they injected me with a injected me with a injected me with a endotoxin with a toxine actually which endotoxin with a toxine actually which endotoxin with a toxine actually which is a part of a bacteria and that creates is a part of a bacteria and that creates is a part of a bacteria and that creates a a very dramatic uh immune response and a a very dramatic uh immune response and a a very dramatic uh immune response and as we have no control over the immune as we have no control over the immune as we have no control over the immune response in our body they thought I was response in our body they thought I was response in our body they thought I was not able to do it as well as expected not able to do it as well as expected not able to do it as well as expected because nobody showed to be able to because nobody showed to be able to because nobody showed to be able to suppress the immune response because it suppress the immune response because it suppress the immune response because it is part of the autonomic nervous system is part of the autonomic nervous system is part of the autonomic nervous system and uh uh nobody's able to do that until and uh uh nobody's able to do that until and uh uh nobody's able to do that until now I showed H that I was very able
13:00now I showed H that I was very able now I showed H that I was very able within a quarter of an hour instead of within a quarter of an hour instead of within a quarter of an hour instead of hours suffering from uncontrolled hours suffering from uncontrolled hours suffering from uncontrolled shivering fever headaches and all all shivering fever headaches and all all shivering fever headaches and all all that uh I show within a quarter of an that uh I show within a quarter of an that uh I show within a quarter of an hour to have uh control complete over hour to have uh control complete over hour to have uh control complete over the symptoms and also the cyto kins the symptoms and also the cyto kins the symptoms and also the cyto kins which is are which are the flammatory which is are which are the flammatory which is are which are the flammatory beings in the blood created by the beings in the blood created by the beings in the blood created by the immune response and I showed in the immune response and I showed in the immune response and I showed in the blood and by Blood re results to blood and by Blood re results to blood and by Blood re results to suppress them dramatically uh within a suppress them dramatically uh within a suppress them dramatically uh within a quarter and then they told me okay but quarter and then they told me okay but quarter and then they told me okay but you are an exception that confirms the you are an exception that confirms the you are an exception that confirms the rule because you yeah yeah you have been rule because you yeah yeah you have been rule because you yeah yeah you have been training so many years you are the ican training so many years you are the ican training so many years you are the ican you do exceptional features but nobody you do exceptional features but nobody you do exceptional features but nobody is able to do that without that proper is able to do that without that proper is able to do that without that proper training of so many years and I told training of so many years and I told training of so many years and I told them no I can train them within 10
14:00them no I can train them within 10 them no I can train them within 10 days and then the professor was really days and then the professor was really days and then the professor was really challenged because if this group would challenged because if this group would challenged because if this group would show to be able within 10 days uh to uh show to be able within 10 days uh to uh show to be able within 10 days uh to uh be able to influence deeply into the be able to influence deeply into the be able to influence deeply into the autonomic nervous system related to the autonomic nervous system related to the autonomic nervous system related to the immune system then that's for the first immune system then that's for the first immune system then that's for the first time in their scientific history so but time in their scientific history so but time in their scientific history so but he he saw the indication of the he he saw the indication of the he he saw the indication of the possibility uh but still thought those possibility uh but still thought those possibility uh but still thought those guys are not going to be able to do that guys are not going to be able to do that guys are not going to be able to do that within 10 days and you know what it it within 10 days and you know what it it within 10 days and you know what it it wasn't within 10 days it was in with wasn't within 10 days it was in with wasn't within 10 days it was in with four days of training that I made them four days of training that I made them four days of training that I made them able to undergo the same experiment that able to undergo the same experiment that able to undergo the same experiment that that means the the injection of the that means the the injection of the that means the the injection of the endotoxin and have them within a quarter endotoxin and have them within a quarter endotoxin and have them within a quarter of hour completely control of their of hour completely control of their of hour completely control of their immune system related to the autonomic
15:00immune system related to the autonomic immune system related to the autonomic nervous system so they showed a 100% nervous system so they showed a 100% nervous system so they showed a 100% score of everybody to be able within a score of everybody to be able within a score of everybody to be able within a couple of days to go in to tap into the couple of days to go in to tap into the couple of days to go in to tap into the autonomic nervous system related to the autonomic nervous system related to the immune system and yeah and the training immune system and yeah and the training immune system and yeah and the training about the training be prior to about the training be prior to about the training be prior to it we had our beers you know in the it we had our beers you know in the it we had our beers you know in the evening and uh a lot of music and very evening and uh a lot of music and very evening and uh a lot of music and very relaxed and at their mindset I said hey relaxed and at their mindset I said hey relaxed and at their mindset I said hey guys uh probably you uh you guys are the guys uh probably you uh you guys are the guys uh probably you uh you guys are the new new new Gladiators H we are going to win the the Gladiators H we are going to win the the Gladiators H we are going to win the the worst war ever which uh worst war ever which uh worst war ever which uh produced the much the most casualties produced the much the most casualties produced the much the most casualties Agony pain and all that and that's the Agony pain and all that and that's the Agony pain and all that and that's the bacteria that's the Vil that's the virus bacteria that's the Vil that's the virus bacteria that's the Vil that's the virus and we going to Wi this war are you with
16:00and we going to Wi this war are you with and we going to Wi this war are you with me I that's the way I talked to them and me I that's the way I talked to them and me I that's the way I talked to them and so they had a mindset so in the evening so they had a mindset so in the evening so they had a mindset so in the evening we had a we had a we had a relaxed it was like a hippie movement relaxed it was like a hippie movement relaxed it was like a hippie movement but this is a new Revolution and in four but this is a new Revolution and in four but this is a new Revolution and in four days time they were able at the fourth days time they were able at the fourth days time they were able at the fourth day without prior experience in the cold day without prior experience in the cold day without prior experience in the cold they were able to go in shorts at by by they were able to go in shorts at by by they were able to go in shorts at by by a - 10 that's about I don't know a - 10 that's about I don't know a - 10 that's about I don't know in Fahrenheit Celsius this is celsi I in Fahrenheit Celsius this is celsi I in Fahrenheit Celsius this is celsi I means freezing cold yeah yeah it's means freezing cold yeah yeah it's means freezing cold yeah yeah it's probably in the 20s probably in the yes probably in the 20s probably in the yes probably in the 20s probably in the yes in the 20s below freezing yeah and then in the 20s below freezing yeah and then in the 20s below freezing yeah and then for hours and hours we were uh going for hours and hours we were uh going for hours and hours we were uh going uphill and up to Mountain and we arrived uphill and up to Mountain and we arrived uphill and up to Mountain and we arrived at the summit after hours and it was- 27 at the summit after hours and it was- 27 at the summit after hours and it was- 27 - 27 Celsius that that is more than - 27 Celsius that that is more than - 27 Celsius that that is more than minus and then 20s it's probably 10
17:00minus and then 20s it's probably 10 minus and then 20s it's probably 10 something like that and we danc the something like that and we danc the something like that and we danc the Harlem Sho up there then I knew These Harlem Sho up there then I knew These Harlem Sho up there then I knew These Guys these guys are ready in four days Guys these guys are ready in four days Guys these guys are ready in four days time when they will be internalized in time when they will be internalized in time when they will be internalized in the in the hospital and uh and injected the in the hospital and uh and injected the in the hospital and uh and injected with the endotoxin they will be able with the endotoxin they will be able with the endotoxin they will be able because I feel when somebody is uh back because I feel when somebody is uh back because I feel when somebody is uh back into its natural state into its natural state into its natural state of his or hers physiology and I know how of his or hers physiology and I know how of his or hers physiology and I know how to do that the the cold trained me the to do that the the cold trained me the to do that the the cold trained me the cold is my teacher and with the with cold is my teacher and with the with cold is my teacher and with the with these subjects I'm so curious to ask these subjects I'm so curious to ask these subjects I'm so curious to ask because uh because uh because uh the I mean I am certainly not as the I mean I am certainly not as the I mean I am certainly not as proficient as you are in any of these proficient as you are in any of these proficient as you are in any of these techniques but I've I've enjoyed techniques but I've I've enjoyed techniques but I've I've enjoyed experimenting over the last 10 years and experimenting over the last 10 years and experimenting over the last 10 years and writing about these short experiments writing about these short experiments writing about these short experiments whether it's related to breathholding whether it's related to breathholding whether it's related to breathholding with David Blaine or or or other aspect with David Blaine or or or other aspect with David Blaine or or or other aspect ects um obviously you're a professional
18:00ects um obviously you're a professional ects um obviously you're a professional and I am not but I'm so I'd be very and I am not but I'm so I'd be very and I am not but I'm so I'd be very curious to hear you perhaps elaborate curious to hear you perhaps elaborate curious to hear you perhaps elaborate for instance on the first day of for instance on the first day of for instance on the first day of training with these subjects in training with these subjects in training with these subjects in preparation to be injected 4 days later preparation to be injected 4 days later preparation to be injected 4 days later sure uh what did the first day of sure uh what did the first day of sure uh what did the first day of training look like for them um just in training look like for them um just in training look like for them um just in the morning at East at 8:00 without food the morning at East at 8:00 without food the morning at East at 8:00 without food intake we do uh breathing and they lie intake we do uh breathing and they lie intake we do uh breathing and they lie on the ground all because that's the on the ground all because that's the on the ground all because that's the most relaxed uh pose and uh if you are most relaxed uh pose and uh if you are most relaxed uh pose and uh if you are relaxed you are able to store up uh relaxed you are able to store up uh relaxed you are able to store up uh whole much whole lot more uh oxygen than whole much whole lot more uh oxygen than whole much whole lot more uh oxygen than when in tension or in posture so I say when in tension or in posture so I say when in tension or in posture so I say them just lay down them just lay down them just lay down relax now we are going to relax now we are going to relax now we are going to begin just breathe in deeply and let go begin just breathe in deeply and let go begin just breathe in deeply and let go breathe in deeply let go make it a
19:00breathe in deeply let go make it a breathe in deeply let go make it a rhythm breathe in deeply let go not rhythm breathe in deeply let go not rhythm breathe in deeply let go not fully out but fully fully out but fully fully out but fully in and let go and uh repeat that about in and let go and uh repeat that about in and let go and uh repeat that about 30 40 times until these indications or 30 40 times until these indications or 30 40 times until these indications or symptoms come by and that it means symptoms come by and that it means symptoms come by and that it means light-headedness loose in the body light-headedness loose in the body light-headedness loose in the body feeling loose in the body tingling feeling loose in the body tingling feeling loose in the body tingling contractions that's because carbon contractions that's because carbon contractions that's because carbon dioxide goes dioxide goes dioxide goes out oxygen is roaming freely throughout out oxygen is roaming freely throughout out oxygen is roaming freely throughout the body and the pH levels rise they are the body and the pH levels rise they are the body and the pH levels rise they are optimalized so they get to their best optimalized so they get to their best optimalized so they get to their best condition and um that's proven that's condition and um that's proven that's condition and um that's proven that's proven and they proven and they proven and they saw when we do this uh they saw they saw saw when we do this uh they saw they saw saw when we do this uh they saw they saw all these results chemically then once all these results chemically then once all these results chemically then once you feel positively charged with all
20:00you feel positively charged with all you feel positively charged with all these symptoms of lightheadedness these symptoms of lightheadedness these symptoms of lightheadedness feeling loose contractions and tingling feeling loose contractions and tingling feeling loose contractions and tingling in the body ask him just breathe in in the body ask him just breathe in in the body ask him just breathe in deeply let go and now the last time deeply let go and now the last time deeply let go and now the last time breathe in breathe in breathe in deeply and let go and after letting go deeply and let go and after letting go deeply and let go and after letting go after exhalation after exhalation after exhalation stop refrain from breathing there's no stop refrain from breathing there's no stop refrain from breathing there's no need we got a whole lot of oxygen and uh need we got a whole lot of oxygen and uh need we got a whole lot of oxygen and uh measurement devices are not able to measurement devices are not able to measurement devices are not able to detect how much it's more than 100% detect how much it's more than 100% detect how much it's more than 100% that's my opinion but devices still are that's my opinion but devices still are that's my opinion but devices still are not able to detect that they only can go not able to detect that they only can go not able to detect that they only can go up to uh 100% as they say but the 100% up to uh 100% as they say but the 100% up to uh 100% as they say but the 100% the a body is able to store up more the a body is able to store up more the a body is able to store up more oxygen than measurement devices of now oxygen than measurement devices of now oxygen than measurement devices of now are able to uh measure so then after one are able to uh measure so then after one are able to uh measure so then after one one and a half
21:00one and a half one and a half minutes H then you see that the minutes H then you see that the minutes H then you see that the measurement device shows 100% And then measurement device shows 100% And then measurement device shows 100% And then it goes dramatically down afterwards and it goes dramatically down afterwards and it goes dramatically down afterwards and you're using a pulse oximeter like you're using a pulse oximeter like you're using a pulse oximeter like something that you clip on your finger something that you clip on your finger something that you clip on your finger yes pulse o so so you need a heartbeat yes pulse o so so you need a heartbeat yes pulse o so so you need a heartbeat you have a heartbeat and you have the you have a heartbeat and you have the you have a heartbeat and you have the saturation of the oxygen in inside the saturation of the oxygen in inside the saturation of the oxygen in inside the blood so the amount of oxygen so after blood so the amount of oxygen so after blood so the amount of oxygen so after one and a half minute you see with one and a half minute you see with one and a half minute you see with everybody everybody everybody that the uh saturation of the blood is that the uh saturation of the blood is that the uh saturation of the blood is going down and you know people with going down and you know people with going down and you know people with COPD that that's lung diseases and all COPD that that's lung diseases and all COPD that that's lung diseases and all that they they suffer from real severe that they they suffer from real severe that they they suffer from real severe COPD when they have 85 we go to 90 to 80 COPD when they have 85 we go to 90 to 80 COPD when they have 85 we go to 90 to 80 70 60 50 people die at 50 and 40 uh uh 70 60 50 people die at 50 and 40 uh uh 70 60 50 people die at 50 and 40 uh uh 40% saturation in the blood we go past 40% saturation in the blood we go past 40% saturation in the blood we go past we get go even to 30 we get go even to 30 we get go even to 30 and then the device measurement device
22:00and then the device measurement device and then the device measurement device the oxyer shuts down it is not measuring the oxyer shuts down it is not measuring the oxyer shuts down it is not measuring anymore but we even go past that one now anymore but we even go past that one now anymore but we even go past that one now why don't you why don't the subjects why don't you why don't the subjects why don't you why don't the subjects pass out at this point H they don't pass pass out at this point H they don't pass pass out at this point H they don't pass out H because they are alkaline I see out H because they are alkaline I see out H because they are alkaline I see they're the pH they're the pH they're the pH degrees are really perfect at that degrees are really perfect at that degrees are really perfect at that moment and in instead of a person who's moment and in instead of a person who's moment and in instead of a person who's dying is very acidic mhm so that's the dying is very acidic mhm so that's the dying is very acidic mhm so that's the difference so uh because we are so difference so uh because we are so difference so uh because we are so alkaline alkaline alkaline people maybe sometimes are able to pass people maybe sometimes are able to pass people maybe sometimes are able to pass out but just two seconds or three out but just two seconds or three out but just two seconds or three seconds because they get they are out of seconds because they get they are out of seconds because they get they are out of their conditioned their conditioned their conditioned control but in in a you know after control but in in a you know after control but in in a you know after exercising they have a re a regain not exercising they have a re a regain not exercising they have a re a regain not only control in those moments and and only control in those moments and and only control in those moments and and those situations they those situations they those situations they they win a new part in the brain they
23:00they win a new part in the brain they they win a new part in the brain they get in very deep in the brain and it's get in very deep in the brain and it's get in very deep in the brain and it's all new terrain it's like a baby a baby all new terrain it's like a baby a baby all new terrain it's like a baby a baby has no problem with her with her legs has no problem with her with her legs has no problem with her with her legs but there are no motoric motoric neurons but there are no motoric motoric neurons but there are no motoric motoric neurons to the legs yet right established so we to the legs yet right established so we to the legs yet right established so we are going into different parts of the are going into different parts of the are going into different parts of the brain where there is where the the guy brain where there is where the the guy brain where there is where the the guy or the the the the girl never has or the the the the girl never has or the the the the girl never has right so it's logic that the people are right so it's logic that the people are right so it's logic that the people are able to pass out but nothing happens able to pass out but nothing happens able to pass out but nothing happens because they are alkaline so they just because they are alkaline so they just because they are alkaline so they just wake up and wake up and wake up and mostly or mostly almost always they wake mostly or mostly almost always they wake mostly or mostly almost always they wake up very happy and it's like a drug uh up very happy and it's like a drug uh up very happy and it's like a drug uh experience so but that's besides of the experience so but that's besides of the experience so but that's besides of the real effect I'm uh trying to uh not not real effect I'm uh trying to uh not not real effect I'm uh trying to uh not not trying which we showed scientifically trying which we showed scientifically trying which we showed scientifically is to be able to tap into the immune
24:00is to be able to tap into the immune is to be able to tap into the immune system in all the layers those are three system in all the layers those are three system in all the layers those are three layers and normally H we are not able to layers and normally H we are not able to layers and normally H we are not able to get into the second and the third layer get into the second and the third layer get into the second and the third layer and I say now we have found a key to the and I say now we have found a key to the and I say now we have found a key to the second and the and the third layer that second and the and the third layer that second and the and the third layer that means the non-specific immune system and means the non-specific immune system and means the non-specific immune system and the specific adaptive immune system and the specific adaptive immune system and the specific adaptive immune system and that makes us looking to disease that makes us looking to disease that makes us looking to disease completely different because our ability completely different because our ability completely different because our ability is so much is so much is so much more and we have been um more and we have been um more and we have been um publishing people in Boston they publishing people in Boston they publishing people in Boston they published it throughout America on the published it throughout America on the published it throughout America on the universities chapter 22 on biology now universities chapter 22 on biology now universities chapter 22 on biology now and it tells that we have tapped into and it tells that we have tapped into and it tells that we have tapped into the autonomic nervous system into the the autonomic nervous system into the the autonomic nervous system into the inate innate immune system which was up inate innate immune system which was up inate innate immune system which was up till now not possible and we did it 100%
25:00till now not possible and we did it 100% till now not possible and we did it 100% with a group of nine people showing that with a group of nine people showing that with a group of nine people showing that they were very able to do it all all of they were very able to do it all all of they were very able to do it all all of them within a quarter of an hour and them within a quarter of an hour and them within a quarter of an hour and have spectacular results so it that it have spectacular results so it that it have spectacular results so it that it is science now and now it needs to get is science now and now it needs to get is science now and now it needs to get to every person in the world how to tap to every person in the world how to tap to every person in the world how to tap into the deeper layers of our physiology into the deeper layers of our physiology into the deeper layers of our physiology without training you know years and without training you know years and without training you know years and years and years and being yogis or being years and years and being yogis or being years and years and being yogis or being uh the super athletes and all that no my uh the super athletes and all that no my uh the super athletes and all that no my aim is within a couple of days we are aim is within a couple of days we are aim is within a couple of days we are all able to tap into the deepest layers all able to tap into the deepest layers all able to tap into the deepest layers of our physiology and reset our immune of our physiology and reset our immune of our physiology and reset our immune system bring it under our will and system bring it under our will and system bring it under our will and that's my aim but then uh we make fun that's my aim but then uh we make fun that's my aim but then uh we make fun too and all that but too and all that but too and all that but for S being serious that's my goal right
26:00for S being serious that's my goal right for S being serious that's my goal right no I was just going to say I mean it's no I was just going to say I mean it's no I was just going to say I mean it's very hard to get the I think you're very hard to get the I think you're very hard to get the I think you're approaching it in a very intelligent way approaching it in a very intelligent way approaching it in a very intelligent way because it's it's very hard to get truly because it's it's very hard to get truly because it's it's very hard to get truly serious work done if you're serious all serious work done if you're serious all serious work done if you're serious all the time so I I I enjoy it's very the time so I I I enjoy it's very the time so I I I enjoy it's very fascinating for me as a teacher to watch fascinating for me as a teacher to watch fascinating for me as a teacher to watch how you coach your subjects because you how you coach your subjects because you how you coach your subjects because you use beer you have guitar and uh I think use beer you have guitar and uh I think use beer you have guitar and uh I think it's a very important component um it it's a very important component um it it's a very important component um it seem to and I wanted to ask you about seem to and I wanted to ask you about seem to and I wanted to ask you about the breathing on day one just one more the breathing on day one just one more the breathing on day one just one more time which is is the breathing exercise time which is is the breathing exercise time which is is the breathing exercise on day one something that then the on day one something that then the on day one something that then the subjects use during the injection or subjects use during the injection or subjects use during the injection or before the injection or is it an before the injection or is it an before the injection or is it an exercise to prove to them that they can exercise to prove to them that they can exercise to prove to them that they can do more than they think they can do and do more than they think they can do and do more than they think they can do and it's more of a confidence Builder that it's more of a confidence Builder that it's more of a confidence Builder that you use to set the tone for the rest of you use to set the tone for the rest of you use to set the tone for the rest of the training yes both so it's a the training yes both so it's a the training yes both so it's a confidence build Builder and is very confidence build Builder and is very confidence build Builder and is very effective at the moment when something
27:00effective at the moment when something effective at the moment when something uh like an injection is coming and they uh like an injection is coming and they uh like an injection is coming and they know it will result in dramatic immune know it will result in dramatic immune know it will result in dramatic immune response and they have to build up and response and they have to build up and response and they have to build up and and make alert their Shield or their and make alert their Shield or their and make alert their Shield or their prot protective uh uh lines of of prot protective uh uh lines of of prot protective uh uh lines of of Defense which is the immune system yes Defense which is the immune system yes Defense which is the immune system yes so both both and is this something that so both both and is this something that so both both and is this something that you can do after the fact so for you can do after the fact so for you can do after the fact so for instance um at this point with your uh instance um at this point with your uh instance um at this point with your uh your level of proficiency if you were to your level of proficiency if you were to your level of proficiency if you were to contract a disease without realizing it contract a disease without realizing it contract a disease without realizing it and then to get very sick would you be and then to get very sick would you be and then to get very sick would you be able to reverse that or is it something able to reverse that or is it something able to reverse that or is it something that needs to be uh is that does the that needs to be uh is that does the that needs to be uh is that does the shield need to be activated beforehand shield need to be activated beforehand shield need to be activated beforehand in order for you to control that in order for you to control that in order for you to control that autonomous socalled autonomous autonomous socalled autonomous autonomous socalled autonomous response interesting very nice it's both response interesting very nice it's both response interesting very nice it's both preventive and healing so once a a
28:00preventive and healing so once a a preventive and healing so once a a specific hormone or molecule must be specific hormone or molecule must be specific hormone or molecule must be generated to get to a an an Invader a generated to get to a an an Invader a generated to get to a an an Invader a non- sself Invader in the body which non- sself Invader in the body which non- sself Invader in the body which could be a bacteria a virus or a backel could be a bacteria a virus or a backel could be a bacteria a virus or a backel which got through the first uh two lines which got through the first uh two lines which got through the first uh two lines of Defense then the third line is more of Defense then the third line is more of Defense then the third line is more specific but it takes normally like specific but it takes normally like specific but it takes normally like weeks or sometimes it's not traceable weeks or sometimes it's not traceable weeks or sometimes it's not traceable because an Invader is because an Invader is because an Invader is mutating but we have now h a method that mutating but we have now h a method that mutating but we have now h a method that is able to tap into the third layer and is able to tap into the third layer and is able to tap into the third layer and make the nuns uh the specific uh make the nuns uh the specific uh make the nuns uh the specific uh adaptive immune system ER rapidly active adaptive immune system ER rapidly active adaptive immune system ER rapidly active even after something comes in h so it's even after something comes in h so it's even after something comes in h so it's both uh pre both uh pre both uh pre preventive uh but it is also when you
29:00preventive uh but it is also when you preventive uh but it is also when you feel you become sick so a an Invader has feel you become sick so a an Invader has feel you become sick so a an Invader has gotten in MH then you are still very gotten in MH then you are still very gotten in MH then you are still very able to restore the balance within got able to restore the balance within got able to restore the balance within got it yes and um the if if we're looking at it yes and um the if if we're looking at it yes and um the if if we're looking at the the explanation that the scientists the the explanation that the scientists the the explanation that the scientists have at this point for your ability and have at this point for your ability and have at this point for your ability and your subject's ability to protect your subject's ability to protect your subject's ability to protect themselves or Shield themselves um it themselves or Shield themselves um it themselves or Shield themselves um it seemed like one hypothesis was you being seemed like one hypothesis was you being seemed like one hypothesis was you being able to increase I think noradrenaline able to increase I think noradrenaline able to increase I think noradrenaline or norepinephrine levels in the body uh or norepinephrine levels in the body uh or norepinephrine levels in the body uh do you agree with that or do you think do you agree with that or do you think do you agree with that or do you think there are other uh do you have other uh there are other uh do you have other uh there are other uh do you have other uh theories I do I do I'd love to hear it's theories I do I do I'd love to hear it's theories I do I do I'd love to hear it's not it's it's like if you have not it's it's like if you have not it's it's like if you have HIV and then the immune system is still HIV and then the immune system is still HIV and then the immune system is still looking for answers up till a moment looking for answers up till a moment looking for answers up till a moment that it is not able to specify anymore that it is not able to specify anymore that it is not able to specify anymore what what's going on and then we get what what's going on and then we get what what's going on and then we get AIDS mhm H that that means that all the
30:00AIDS mhm H that that means that all the AIDS mhm H that that means that all the defense systems are shut down now we defense systems are shut down now we defense systems are shut down now we have shown by have shown by have shown by norrine and nor adrenaline norrine and nor adrenaline norrine and nor adrenaline adrenaline H that we can uh suppress the adrenaline H that we can uh suppress the adrenaline H that we can uh suppress the inflammation that means the flammatory inflammation that means the flammatory inflammation that means the flammatory bodies and creating an immune response bodies and creating an immune response bodies and creating an immune response and we suppressed it that would be like and we suppressed it that would be like and we suppressed it that would be like uh shutting down the immune system that uh shutting down the immune system that uh shutting down the immune system that makes us uh uh following the scientific makes us uh uh following the scientific makes us uh uh following the scientific logic uh that makes us more vulnerable logic uh that makes us more vulnerable logic uh that makes us more vulnerable no what we do and they still got to find no what we do and they still got to find no what we do and they still got to find out but I just use my natural logic and out but I just use my natural logic and out but I just use my natural logic and you can read upon in the in the in the you can read upon in the in the in the you can read upon in the in the in the in the papers um that we have found a in the papers um that we have found a in the papers um that we have found a way to awaken the third line which way to awaken the third line which way to awaken the third line which normally takes weeks or months to uh to
31:00normally takes weeks or months to uh to normally takes weeks or months to uh to uh find a specific hormone or molecule uh find a specific hormone or molecule uh find a specific hormone or molecule which then is U going for the Target which then is U going for the Target which then is U going for the Target cell to go on the membrane and to uh cell to go on the membrane and to uh cell to go on the membrane and to uh kill the cell so that's interesting it's kill the cell so that's interesting it's kill the cell so that's interesting it's it's it's almost like internal drug it's it's almost like internal drug it's it's almost like internal drug development you're trying to find the development you're trying to find the development you're trying to find the lock that uh I'm sorry the key that fits lock that uh I'm sorry the key that fits lock that uh I'm sorry the key that fits the proper lock but you're doing it the proper lock but you're doing it the proper lock but you're doing it internally and that normally takes a internally and that normally takes a internally and that normally takes a very long time biologically to to to uh very long time biologically to to to uh very long time biologically to to to uh sort of to conclude with but you're sort of to conclude with but you're sort of to conclude with but you're accelerating that process exactly and accelerating that process exactly and accelerating that process exactly and then these hormones are not needed then these hormones are not needed then these hormones are not needed anymore because the specific hormon the anymore because the specific hormon the anymore because the specific hormon the specific molecule gets on the cell specific molecule gets on the cell specific molecule gets on the cell membrane and then all this uh like fire membrane and then all this uh like fire membrane and then all this uh like fire uh uh uh people which is nor adrenaline gets people which is nor adrenaline gets people which is nor adrenaline gets throughout the system and the epinine as throughout the system and the epinine as throughout the system and the epinine as well and they suppress the well and they suppress the well and they suppress the inflammation the the the action and but inflammation the the the action and but inflammation the the the action and but that is only possible when the the
32:00that is only possible when the the that is only possible when the the target is already annihilated when the target is already annihilated when the target is already annihilated when the target has a specific molecule on it target has a specific molecule on it target has a specific molecule on it because of the third line of defense because of the third line of defense because of the third line of defense right and that's that that's what we right and that's that that's what we right and that's that that's what we found we found a way and it's also Dr found we found a way and it's also Dr found we found a way and it's also Dr Kevin Tracy from Manhasset New York who Kevin Tracy from Manhasset New York who Kevin Tracy from Manhasset New York who tells that he is very much he's an tells that he is very much he's an tells that he is very much he's an authority in the authority in the authority in the biochemistry and uh I worked with him in biochemistry and uh I worked with him in biochemistry and uh I worked with him in 2007 and I showed I was able in his 2007 and I showed I was able in his 2007 and I showed I was able in his Institute uh to suppress or to influence Institute uh to suppress or to influence Institute uh to suppress or to influence the vague nerve which is oh the Vegas the vague nerve which is oh the Vegas the vague nerve which is oh the Vegas nerve yeah yes and now uh he told in nerve yeah yes and now uh he told in nerve yeah yes and now uh he told in nature he told immunity does not come nature he told immunity does not come nature he told immunity does not come without neural regulation they found a without neural regulation they found a without neural regulation they found a way so what do you now for instance I way so what do you now for instance I way so what do you now for instance I was I did my uh undergraduate for a very
33:00was I did my uh undergraduate for a very was I did my uh undergraduate for a very short period of time in college I short period of time in college I short period of time in college I studied neuroscience and I remember when studied neuroscience and I remember when studied neuroscience and I remember when I was in college there was a professor I was in college there was a professor I was in college there was a professor there who determined that for instance there who determined that for instance there who determined that for instance the neurons in the hippocampus could the neurons in the hippocampus could the neurons in the hippocampus could actually be regenerated and this was actually be regenerated and this was actually be regenerated and this was very very big big news because people very very big big news because people very very big big news because people had assumed for a very long time in a had assumed for a very long time in a had assumed for a very long time in a number of parts of the brain that number of parts of the brain that number of parts of the brain that neurons could not be degenerated or neurons could not be degenerated or neurons could not be degenerated or Regen generated basically as you got Regen generated basically as you got Regen generated basically as you got older you just lost neur neuronal older you just lost neur neuronal older you just lost neur neuronal function and it could not be restored function and it could not be restored function and it could not be restored now we know that's not true right and so now we know that's not true right and so now we know that's not true right and so you're having this a similar experience you're having this a similar experience you're having this a similar experience where you are proving to people that where you are proving to people that where you are proving to people that things are possible that were thought things are possible that were thought things are possible that were thought impossible what what do you think what impossible what what do you think what impossible what what do you think what other Impossibles do you think we will other Impossibles do you think we will other Impossibles do you think we will prove are possible in the next say 5 prove are possible in the next say 5 prove are possible in the next say 5 years in your kind of area of years in your kind of area of years in your kind of area of experimentation very very nice thought experimentation very very nice thought experimentation very very nice thought and a very good question uh I think and a very good question uh I think and a very good question uh I think depression for example and the brains
34:00depression for example and the brains depression for example and the brains itself H we are able to tap into the itself H we are able to tap into the itself H we are able to tap into the brains and do so much more influence so brains and do so much more influence so brains and do so much more influence so much much much more more more H which is related to the H which is related to the H which is related to the hypothalamus the pineal gland pic gland hypothalamus the pineal gland pic gland hypothalamus the pineal gland pic gland the hippocampus and the amydala the seed the hippocampus and the amydala the seed the hippocampus and the amydala the seed of emotion all these are part and around of emotion all these are part and around of emotion all these are part and around their uh brain stamp which is the their uh brain stamp which is the their uh brain stamp which is the reptilian brain the Primitive brain and reptilian brain the Primitive brain and reptilian brain the Primitive brain and because of our comfort way of living and because of our comfort way of living and because of our comfort way of living and Behavior Uh this part doesn't get enough Behavior Uh this part doesn't get enough Behavior Uh this part doesn't get enough uh stimulation right we're untrained yes uh stimulation right we're untrained yes uh stimulation right we're untrained yes they it doesn't get this stimulation nor they it doesn't get this stimulation nor they it doesn't get this stimulation nor oxygen so there is a certain kind of oxygen so there is a certain kind of oxygen so there is a certain kind of deregulating pH level going on it's just deregulating pH level going on it's just deregulating pH level going on it's just to a lack of oxygen there is no no to a lack of oxygen there is no no to a lack of oxygen there is no no stimulation so in time it begins to
35:00stimulation so in time it begins to stimulation so in time it begins to malfunction and malfunction and malfunction and that's yeah that that's actually yeah that's yeah that that's actually yeah that's yeah that that's actually yeah sort of a logic so we suffer from a sort of a logic so we suffer from a sort of a logic so we suffer from a whole lot for example of depression in whole lot for example of depression in whole lot for example of depression in the western world because because we go the western world because because we go the western world because because we go too much into uh the the too much into uh the the too much into uh the the neocortex the The Superficial brain the neocortex the The Superficial brain the neocortex the The Superficial brain the new brain and we have to do all kinds of new brain and we have to do all kinds of new brain and we have to do all kinds of things and deadlines and worries and we things and deadlines and worries and we things and deadlines and worries and we cannot stop it and it consumes all the cannot stop it and it consumes all the cannot stop it and it consumes all the energy what I do and learn is to go into energy what I do and learn is to go into energy what I do and learn is to go into the brain stem again the the the the the brain stem again the the the the the brain stem again the the the the Simplicity of our Reptilian Brain the Simplicity of our Reptilian Brain the Simplicity of our Reptilian Brain the Primitive brain the brain stem which is Primitive brain the brain stem which is Primitive brain the brain stem which is related to all these beautiful H glands related to all these beautiful H glands related to all these beautiful H glands over there which is the pineal gland P over there which is the pineal gland P over there which is the pineal gland P gland and and the controller of us which gland and and the controller of us which gland and and the controller of us which is the uh hypothalamus right and this is the uh hypothalamus right and this is the uh hypothalamus right and this seat of emotion itself which is the
36:00seat of emotion itself which is the seat of emotion itself which is the amigdala it's all there and so I found a amigdala it's all there and so I found a amigdala it's all there and so I found a way to get into that and show just by way to get into that and show just by way to get into that and show just by this example of ours to lying in bed this example of ours to lying in bed this example of ours to lying in bed people are able to produce more people are able to produce more people are able to produce more adrenaline than somebody who is in fear adrenaline than somebody who is in fear adrenaline than somebody who is in fear going into a Bunger jump for the first going into a Bunger jump for the first going into a Bunger jump for the first time mhm you see what I mean right that time mhm you see what I mean right that time mhm you see what I mean right that that means fear emotion uncontrollable that means fear emotion uncontrollable that means fear emotion uncontrollable emotions and fear we are able to control emotions and fear we are able to control emotions and fear we are able to control that and that's because we tap that and that's because we tap that and that's because we tap controlled into the brain stem and controlled into the brain stem and controlled into the brain stem and produce any adrenaline or epinephrine produce any adrenaline or epinephrine produce any adrenaline or epinephrine or all these all these uh uh gland uh no or all these all these uh uh gland uh no or all these all these uh uh gland uh no not glands hormones we need and it's the not glands hormones we need and it's the not glands hormones we need and it's the pineal gland in in the
37:00pineal gland in in the pineal gland in in the finally uh which is the control of all finally uh which is the control of all finally uh which is the control of all the other glands in our body so we are the other glands in our body so we are the other glands in our body so we are able now to tap into that so the coming able now to tap into that so the coming able now to tap into that so the coming five years I want to five years I want to five years I want to eradicate uh depression I want to eradicate uh depression I want to eradicate uh depression I want to eradicate uh the the uh yeah actually eradicate uh the the uh yeah actually eradicate uh the the uh yeah actually disease I know there are are big words disease I know there are are big words disease I know there are are big words but we are into that I'm not only into but we are into that I'm not only into but we are into that I'm not only into that is are also professors biochemists that is are also professors biochemists that is are also professors biochemists who stand my point and they see it's so who stand my point and they see it's so who stand my point and they see it's so simple so accessible and so effective simple so accessible and so effective simple so accessible and so effective but it needs to be translated into our but it needs to be translated into our but it needs to be translated into our infrastructure of thinking as well as of infrastructure of thinking as well as of infrastructure of thinking as well as of interests it needs to cooperate with interests it needs to cooperate with interests it needs to cooperate with schooling now we got on the University schooling now we got on the University schooling now we got on the University that's nice it's coming top down because that's nice it's coming top down because that's nice it's coming top down because oh if the US universities are taking it oh if the US universities are taking it oh if the US universities are taking it on then soon all the universities the on then soon all the universities the on then soon all the universities the world will follow MH so we find okay I
38:00world will follow MH so we find okay I world will follow MH so we find okay I arrest my point for for now and with no arrest my point for for now and with no arrest my point for for now and with no no the uh so with for instance no the uh so with for instance no the uh so with for instance depression so there I'm sure there are a depression so there I'm sure there are a depression so there I'm sure there are a lot of people listening who have uh lot of people listening who have uh lot of people listening who have uh bounce with depression or even extended bounce with depression or even extended bounce with depression or even extended depression has no control over their depression has no control over their depression has no control over their mood right that's no control over the mood right that's no control over the mood right that's no control over the brain St right so let we bring it back brain St right so let we bring it back brain St right so let we bring it back to the brain St right so for instance to the brain St right so for instance to the brain St right so for instance you know I find that it's uh very you know I find that it's uh very you know I find that it's uh very helpful for me at least to use cold helpful for me at least to use cold helpful for me at least to use cold exposure uh and whether that's cold exposure uh and whether that's cold exposure uh and whether that's cold showers or ice bath uh it has a showers or ice bath uh it has a showers or ice bath uh it has a tremendous mood elevating effect or tremendous mood elevating effect or tremendous mood elevating effect or maybe mood exactly uh balancing effect maybe mood exactly uh balancing effect maybe mood exactly uh balancing effect depending on on how how we want to depending on on how how we want to depending on on how how we want to explain it but for someone who is explain it but for someone who is explain it but for someone who is feeling depressed what are some simple feeling depressed what are some simple feeling depressed what are some simple things that you would recommend that things that you would recommend that things that you would recommend that they try they try they try potentially first uh get into conscious potentially first uh get into conscious potentially first uh get into conscious breathing deeper breathing and uh breathing deeper breathing and uh breathing deeper breathing and uh be consciously doing that uh it showed
39:00be consciously doing that uh it showed be consciously doing that uh it showed in the in the in the University that I was able just you know University that I was able just you know University that I was able just you know about Consciousness just by thinking about Consciousness just by thinking about Consciousness just by thinking that I was going into an experiment I that I was going into an experiment I that I was going into an experiment I raised cell on Cell level the the raised cell on Cell level the the raised cell on Cell level the the metabolic activity in the cell with metabolic activity in the cell with metabolic activity in the cell with 300% just by thinking that's our mind so 300% just by thinking that's our mind so 300% just by thinking that's our mind so our mind should be with people who are our mind should be with people who are our mind should be with people who are depressed they just got lost they have depressed they just got lost they have depressed they just got lost they have no control so they have to regain no control so they have to regain no control so they have to regain control by consciously going into control by consciously going into control by consciously going into breathing breathing brings about deeper breathing breathing brings about deeper breathing breathing brings about deeper breathing uh brings about a better pH breathing uh brings about a better pH breathing uh brings about a better pH level in the body but not only in the level in the body but not only in the level in the body but not only in the body also in the mind and the the right body also in the mind and the the right body also in the mind and the the right pH pH pH level will make the neurotransmitters level will make the neurotransmitters level will make the neurotransmitters that's your mind electrical signals
40:00that's your mind electrical signals that's your mind electrical signals finally uh uh work better and then you finally uh uh work better and then you finally uh uh work better and then you are able to learn to direct these are able to learn to direct these are able to learn to direct these neurotransmitters or thoughts the Mind neurotransmitters or thoughts the Mind neurotransmitters or thoughts the Mind itself uh consciously with a right pH itself uh consciously with a right pH itself uh consciously with a right pH degree degree degree so we make it simple and we say so we make it simple and we say so we make it simple and we say conscious breathing all the time because conscious breathing all the time because conscious breathing all the time because you lost track and it takes energy takes you lost track and it takes energy takes you lost track and it takes energy takes your mind and it you got to bring back your mind and it you got to bring back your mind and it you got to bring back your mind under your your mind under your your mind under your control and uh so I mean this I think is control and uh so I mean this I think is control and uh so I mean this I think is related to a broader topic of compulsive related to a broader topic of compulsive related to a broader topic of compulsive Behavior right or people who have Behavior right or people who have Behavior right or people who have automatic behaviors that are not uh automatic behaviors that are not uh automatic behaviors that are not uh serving them and one of those is often serving them and one of those is often serving them and one of those is often times eating or overeating and before we times eating or overeating and before we times eating or overeating and before we started recording and I asked you what started recording and I asked you what started recording and I asked you what you had for breakfast and he said you had for breakfast and he said you had for breakfast and he said nothing because you eat once per day so nothing because you eat once per day so nothing because you eat once per day so I could you describe what your daily I could you describe what your daily I could you describe what your daily eating ritual is I eat after 6:00 in the
41:00eating ritual is I eat after 6:00 in the eating ritual is I eat after 6:00 in the afternoon and that's already for 35 afternoon and that's already for 35 afternoon and that's already for 35 years and there is I got a lot of energy years and there is I got a lot of energy years and there is I got a lot of energy and you know why you have a lot of and you know why you have a lot of and you know why you have a lot of allergies no energy oh I'm sorry sorry allergies no energy oh I'm sorry sorry allergies no energy oh I'm sorry sorry got it maybe allergies as well women you know okay just to make fun you know okay just to make fun you know um I think you and I have to have know um I think you and I have to have know um I think you and I have to have next time we do next time we do next time we do this think is very this think is very this think is very healthy very good uh uh the thing is by healthy very good uh uh the thing is by healthy very good uh uh the thing is by better breathing conscious breathing you better breathing conscious breathing you better breathing conscious breathing you make this chemical process in the in the make this chemical process in the in the make this chemical process in the in the cell happen which is called aerobic cell happen which is called aerobic cell happen which is called aerobic dissimilation and as you know in the dissimilation and as you know in the dissimilation and as you know in the cell production to make energy cell production to make energy cell production to make energy mitochondrial energy you need food but mitochondrial energy you need food but mitochondrial energy you need food but if you are able to influence by better if you are able to influence by better if you are able to influence by better breathing a deeper breathing then you
42:00breathing a deeper breathing then you breathing a deeper breathing then you produce simple uh metabolic activity in produce simple uh metabolic activity in produce simple uh metabolic activity in the mitochondria by better breathing and the mitochondria by better breathing and the mitochondria by better breathing and that creates energy which was the that creates energy which was the that creates energy which was the purpose of food so H food is nice hello purpose of food so H food is nice hello purpose of food so H food is nice hello I'm here oh oh yeah food is nice food is I'm here oh oh yeah food is nice food is I'm here oh oh yeah food is nice food is great you should do it with a lot of great you should do it with a lot of great you should do it with a lot of love and have a nice time making it and love and have a nice time making it and love and have a nice time making it and because that's the energy you get because that's the energy you get because that's the energy you get finally uh also but finally uh also but finally uh also but H like me like it's a sort of a fast but H like me like it's a sort of a fast but H like me like it's a sort of a fast but I feel you the senses really gets are I feel you the senses really gets are I feel you the senses really gets are going to be much more effective and the going to be much more effective and the going to be much more effective and the cell activity is going to be much more cell activity is going to be much more cell activity is going to be much more effective and it is using all the food effective and it is using all the food effective and it is using all the food and you can eat after 6 o' I can eat and you can eat after 6 o' I can eat and you can eat after 6 o' I can eat what I want that other day I'm slim what I want that other day I'm slim what I want that other day I'm slim again and that that's making you know
43:00again and that that's making you know again and that that's making you know making the body work but as we eat all making the body work but as we eat all making the body work but as we eat all the day long the body is not shutting the day long the body is not shutting the day long the body is not shutting down is not effective anymore doesn't go down is not effective anymore doesn't go down is not effective anymore doesn't go deep doesn't go into survival modus it's deep doesn't go into survival modus it's deep doesn't go into survival modus it's not natural again so it's beginning to not natural again so it's beginning to not natural again so it's beginning to store up all the fats because it doesn't store up all the fats because it doesn't store up all the fats because it doesn't know what to do anymore because the know what to do anymore because the know what to do anymore because the deeper mechanisms are not working deeper mechanisms are not working deeper mechanisms are not working anymore so yeah and to bring that and anymore so yeah and to bring that and anymore so yeah and to bring that and what do you usually what what are some what do you usually what what are some what do you usually what what are some typical meals that you have after 6 p.m. typical meals that you have after 6 p.m. typical meals that you have after 6 p.m. that's that's that's uh I like pasta yeah and I like a couple of beers pasta yeah and I like a couple of beers too and uh yeah sure sounds sounds good too and uh yeah sure sounds sounds good too and uh yeah sure sounds sounds good I uh the eating ritual is very I uh the eating ritual is very I uh the eating ritual is very interesting i' I've interviewed a number interesting i' I've interviewed a number interesting i' I've interviewed a number of people on this podcast including of people on this podcast including of people on this podcast including General Stanley mistal who's a four-star General Stanley mistal who's a four-star General Stanley mistal who's a four-star general and he was he's also famous for general and he was he's also famous for general and he was he's also famous for um get a lot of exercise early in the um get a lot of exercise early in the um get a lot of exercise early in the day and eating one meal per day he's
44:00day and eating one meal per day he's day and eating one meal per day he's also he's also very well known for that also he's also very well known for that also he's also very well known for that uh uh you you described the breathing exercise you you described the breathing exercise you you described the breathing exercise uh some of the breathing exercises that uh some of the breathing exercises that uh some of the breathing exercises that you you you do does the type of breathing that you do does the type of breathing that you do does the type of breathing that you do have anything uh is it similar in any do have anything uh is it similar in any do have anything uh is it similar in any ways to holotropic breath work if you're ways to holotropic breath work if you're ways to holotropic breath work if you're familiar with that familiar with that familiar with that and I I heard from someone and maybe you and I I heard from someone and maybe you and I I heard from someone and maybe you can correct me if I'm wrong that um some can correct me if I'm wrong that um some can correct me if I'm wrong that um some scientists had looked at at whether you scientists had looked at at whether you scientists had looked at at whether you were were were producing or releasing more DMT during producing or releasing more DMT during producing or releasing more DMT during some of your uh breathing activities is some of your uh breathing activities is some of your uh breathing activities is that accurate or did did I get some that accurate or did did I get some that accurate or did did I get some misinformation from someone just be very misinformation from someone just be very misinformation from someone just be very oh no that's a professor right yeah I oh no that's a professor right yeah I oh no that's a professor right yeah I don't know uh coloro I don't know where don't know uh coloro I don't know where don't know uh coloro I don't know where what is his name again I don't he's a what is his name again I don't he's a what is his name again I don't he's a Authority in the field but I had a Authority in the field but I had a Authority in the field but I had a dialogue with him and he is talking dialogue with him and he is talking dialogue with him and he is talking about about about all these you know aesa and all these
45:00all these you know aesa and all these all these you know aesa and all these drugs and all this and experimenting and drugs and all this and experimenting and drugs and all this and experimenting and I said I told him I'm able to I said I told him I'm able to I said I told him I'm able to produce uh to uh trigger the pineal produce uh to uh trigger the pineal produce uh to uh trigger the pineal gland in a way that DMT is released and gland in a way that DMT is released and gland in a way that DMT is released and and yes uh can make people very very and yes uh can make people very very and yes uh can make people very very happy uh doing all these breathing happy uh doing all these breathing happy uh doing all these breathing exercises that that's true but the exercises that that's true but the exercises that that's true but the purpose of DMT actually is to uh work purpose of DMT actually is to uh work purpose of DMT actually is to uh work out the subconscious while dreaming in out the subconscious while dreaming in out the subconscious while dreaming in the rapid eye movement sleep and the the rapid eye movement sleep and the the rapid eye movement sleep and the other one is uh when you die then DMT is other one is uh when you die then DMT is other one is uh when you die then DMT is released as well as to make it more you released as well as to make it more you released as well as to make it more you know happy uh going after uh having a know happy uh going after uh having a know happy uh going after uh having a have a have a nice time going to the have a have a nice time going to the have a have a nice time going to the other side something like that so there other side something like that so there other side something like that so there is a natural purpose for DMT but we are is a natural purpose for DMT but we are is a natural purpose for DMT but we are we are very a I'm very able to trigger we are very a I'm very able to trigger we are very a I'm very able to trigger that uh that creates uh DMT and I told
46:00that uh that creates uh DMT and I told that uh that creates uh DMT and I told him and I I I told him also it's not him and I I I told him also it's not him and I I I told him also it's not only about the DMT which is very nice only about the DMT which is very nice only about the DMT which is very nice it's a nice drug and all that but the it's a nice drug and all that but the it's a nice drug and all that but the better part of it is if we are able to better part of it is if we are able to better part of it is if we are able to to uh trigger the pineal gland which is to uh trigger the pineal gland which is to uh trigger the pineal gland which is related directly to the hypothalamus and related directly to the hypothalamus and related directly to the hypothalamus and the pitutary gland if we are able to the pitutary gland if we are able to the pitutary gland if we are able to trigger that one and to decalf if y trigger that one and to decalf if y trigger that one and to decalf if y because of our comfort way of living uh because of our comfort way of living uh because of our comfort way of living uh the this pineal gland then this gland is the this pineal gland then this gland is the this pineal gland then this gland is able to to direct all the other glands able to to direct all the other glands able to to direct all the other glands it's the only gland that is directing it's the only gland that is directing it's the only gland that is directing all the other glands and we can bring we all the other glands and we can bring we all the other glands and we can bring we can neurally connect with it with our can neurally connect with it with our can neurally connect with it with our our neocortex is what we do and it shows our neocortex is what we do and it shows our neocortex is what we do and it shows them that we are able to prevent from them that we are able to prevent from them that we are able to prevent from disease or bacteria coming because disease or bacteria coming because disease or bacteria coming because we are able to activate it much more
47:00we are able to activate it much more we are able to activate it much more directly and um that's the main purpose directly and um that's the main purpose directly and um that's the main purpose to you know for uh looking different at to you know for uh looking different at to you know for uh looking different at what creates disease it's because of our what creates disease it's because of our what creates disease it's because of our pineal gland or the brain stem is not pineal gland or the brain stem is not pineal gland or the brain stem is not really active anymore because it's really active anymore because it's really active anymore because it's neglected because of our comfort style neglected because of our comfort style neglected because of our comfort style of living and behavior and we want to of living and behavior and we want to of living and behavior and we want to make a shortcut and to show it that it make a shortcut and to show it that it make a shortcut and to show it that it is simple accessible and effective well is simple accessible and effective well is simple accessible and effective well I think that the you know the the I think that the you know the the I think that the you know the the comfort is important to underscore comfort is important to underscore comfort is important to underscore because uh I was having a conversation because uh I was having a conversation because uh I was having a conversation with Dean carasses several years ago with Dean carasses several years ago with Dean carasses several years ago he's a famous Ultram marathoner you guys he's a famous Ultram marathoner you guys he's a famous Ultram marathoner you guys would probably have a lot to talk about would probably have a lot to talk about would probably have a lot to talk about and uh he uh he ran you know 50 and uh he uh he ran you know 50 and uh he uh he ran you know 50 marathons in 50 days in 50 states he's marathons in 50 days in 50 states he's marathons in 50 days in 50 states he's one of those guys and um he said that uh one of those guys and um he said that uh one of those guys and um he said that uh he lives in Northern California near San he lives in Northern California near San he lives in Northern California near San Francisco where I live and he's and one Francisco where I live and he's and one Francisco where I live and he's and one of his lines and I'm I might be of his lines and I'm I might be of his lines and I'm I might be paraphrasing this but he said you know paraphrasing this but he said you know paraphrasing this but he said you know people now they confuse being happy with
48:00people now they confuse being happy with people now they confuse being happy with being comfortable and they think being being comfortable and they think being being comfortable and they think being comfortable is being happy but that comfortable is being happy but that comfortable is being happy but that those are not the same thing and um I'd those are not the same thing and um I'd those are not the same thing and um I'd like to talk about discomfort for a like to talk about discomfort for a like to talk about discomfort for a second so you ran a marathon in was it second so you ran a marathon in was it second so you ran a marathon in was it Death Valley with no water yes think Death Valley with no water yes think Death Valley with no water yes think like that yeah Namibia not Namibia like that yeah Namibia not Namibia like that yeah Namibia not Namibia that's right even so desert even more that's right even so desert even more that's right even so desert even more dangerous because you have snakes and dangerous because you have snakes and dangerous because you have snakes and whatnot so is it possible to not so of whatnot so is it possible to not so of whatnot so is it possible to not so of course when you are submerged in ice course when you are submerged in ice course when you are submerged in ice it's been demonstrated that you can it's been demonstrated that you can it's been demonstrated that you can maintain your core body temperature for maintain your core body temperature for maintain your core body temperature for a very long period of time uh is it a very long period of time uh is it a very long period of time uh is it possible for you to drop your body possible for you to drop your body possible for you to drop your body temperature in a hot climate or if you temperature in a hot climate or if you temperature in a hot climate or if you just is it training yourself to just is it training yourself to just is it training yourself to withstand the higher withstand the higher withstand the higher temperatures yes exactly uh both temperatures yes exactly uh both temperatures yes exactly uh both actually your your tolerance is rising actually your your tolerance is rising actually your your tolerance is rising and that means uh you are able to endure and that means uh you are able to endure and that means uh you are able to endure a whole lot more because you are able to a whole lot more because you are able to a whole lot more because you are able to influence their hormonal system in a way
49:00influence their hormonal system in a way influence their hormonal system in a way that that that neutralizes pain signals that's one the neutralizes pain signals that's one the neutralizes pain signals that's one the other one is H because of my training in other one is H because of my training in other one is H because of my training in the cold I not only trained in the cold the cold I not only trained in the cold the cold I not only trained in the cold I trained to endure impact of I trained to endure impact of I trained to endure impact of temperature and those are receptors of temperature and those are receptors of temperature and those are receptors of ours which I have trained and then H ours which I have trained and then H ours which I have trained and then H because of that which is part which is because of that which is part which is because of that which is part which is controlled by the hypothalamus is the controlled by the hypothalamus is the controlled by the hypothalamus is the thermal regulator of our body MH and um thermal regulator of our body MH and um thermal regulator of our body MH and um because I trained in the cold I trained because I trained in the cold I trained because I trained in the cold I trained the thermal regulation of the body then the thermal regulation of the body then the thermal regulation of the body then without training without training a without training without training a without training without training a meter of running and then not drinking a meter of running and then not drinking a meter of running and then not drinking a full marathon in the Namib Desert in the full marathon in the Namib Desert in the full marathon in the Namib Desert in the heat without prior training or ever been heat without prior training or ever been heat without prior training or ever been there before uh I was very able to do there before uh I was very able to do there before uh I was very able to do that because this Thermo
50:00that because this Thermo that because this Thermo regulative mechanism the hypothalamus I regulative mechanism the hypothalamus I regulative mechanism the hypothalamus I had trained in uh in in the cold which had trained in uh in in the cold which had trained in uh in in the cold which is the temperature impact so I learned is the temperature impact so I learned is the temperature impact so I learned to deal with a temperature and you know to deal with a temperature and you know to deal with a temperature and you know what and not only the temperature which what and not only the temperature which what and not only the temperature which is cold and heat but also deprivation of is cold and heat but also deprivation of is cold and heat but also deprivation of oxygen that means going up Mount Everest oxygen that means going up Mount Everest oxygen that means going up Mount Everest and shorts that means there's a very and shorts that means there's a very and shorts that means there's a very cold out there there is no cold out there there is no cold out there there is no oxygen and you need oxygen to uh for oxygen and you need oxygen to uh for oxygen and you need oxygen to uh for combustion in the in the cell to create combustion in the in the cell to create combustion in the in the cell to create heat uh energy and there is no uh oxygen heat uh energy and there is no uh oxygen heat uh energy and there is no uh oxygen so I learned in the cold how to deal so I learned in the cold how to deal so I learned in the cold how to deal with impact on the nervous system on our with impact on the nervous system on our with impact on the nervous system on our metabolism that means cold deprivation metabolism that means cold deprivation metabolism that means cold deprivation of oxygen a heat but also stress daily of oxygen a heat but also stress daily of oxygen a heat but also stress daily stress so the secret of our comfort as
51:00stress so the secret of our comfort as stress so the secret of our comfort as you say and the people they confusing uh you say and the people they confusing uh you say and the people they confusing uh like the paraphrasing this this this like the paraphrasing this this this like the paraphrasing this this this great guy of Northern California who great guy of Northern California who great guy of Northern California who telling the truth we are confused we telling the truth we are confused we telling the truth we are confused we don't know anymore what real Comfort is don't know anymore what real Comfort is don't know anymore what real Comfort is real Comfort is the power to regulate uh real Comfort is the power to regulate uh real Comfort is the power to regulate uh all the impact existence in in in life all the impact existence in in in life all the impact existence in in in life that means disease which is impact uh on that means disease which is impact uh on that means disease which is impact uh on our body heat cold deprivation of oxygen our body heat cold deprivation of oxygen our body heat cold deprivation of oxygen stress in general any stress and we are stress in general any stress and we are stress in general any stress and we are able to control that a whole lot more able to control that a whole lot more able to control that a whole lot more and that brings about the real Comfort and that brings about the real Comfort and that brings about the real Comfort because if you connect yourself with all because if you connect yourself with all because if you connect yourself with all these all the systems within then you these all the systems within then you these all the systems within then you feel really good real good is real feel really good real good is real feel really good real good is real connection and that that that's connection and that that that's connection and that that that's something be going be that's why all
52:00something be going be that's why all something be going be that's why all these outdoor Freaks and idiots and atra these outdoor Freaks and idiots and atra these outdoor Freaks and idiots and atra like like like myself are doing this because we just myself are doing this because we just myself are doing this because we just feel good about it well it seems like feel good about it well it seems like feel good about it well it seems like it's also feeling Comfort is in a way it's also feeling Comfort is in a way it's also feeling Comfort is in a way becoming confident in discomfort right becoming confident in discomfort right becoming confident in discomfort right so you you have a confidence that you so you you have a confidence that you so you you have a confidence that you can handle and adapt to whatever is can handle and adapt to whatever is can handle and adapt to whatever is going to come your way uh much like some going to come your way uh much like some going to come your way uh much like some of the I suppose you know Elite military of the I suppose you know Elite military of the I suppose you know Elite military that I've met who are are very actually that I've met who are are very actually that I've met who are are very actually very relaxed I mean the most most of the very relaxed I mean the most most of the very relaxed I mean the most most of the high level guys I've met because they've high level guys I've met because they've high level guys I've met because they've systematically exposed themselves to systematically exposed themselves to systematically exposed themselves to discomfort so they don't fear discomfort discomfort so they don't fear discomfort discomfort so they don't fear discomfort if that makes sense exactly they control if that makes sense exactly they control if that makes sense exactly they control their stress hormone release completely their stress hormone release completely their stress hormone release completely right that's what I'm talking about now right that's what I'm talking about now right that's what I'm talking about now you you speak uh how how many languages you you speak uh how how many languages you you speak uh how how many languages do you speak 10 10 that is a lot of do you speak 10 10 that is a lot of do you speak 10 10 that is a lot of languages H how did you learn that many
53:00languages H how did you learn that many languages H how did you learn that many languages just be open and love to learn languages just be open and love to learn languages just be open and love to learn and that's it I I had no real teachers and that's it I I had no real teachers and that's it I I had no real teachers than you know people in the street and than you know people in the street and than you know people in the street and sometimes I had to look for a teacher sometimes I had to look for a teacher sometimes I had to look for a teacher like a Japanese teacher like a Japanese teacher like a Japanese teacher to here in Amsterdam and a Hindu teacher to here in Amsterdam and a Hindu teacher to here in Amsterdam and a Hindu teacher a pundit and uh so yeah I was just a pundit and uh so yeah I was just a pundit and uh so yeah I was just interested if you are interested in life interested if you are interested in life interested if you are interested in life you get to know and you never stop you get to know and you never stop you get to know and you never stop learning because you love it is there is learning because you love it is there is learning because you love it is there is what language of all the languages what language of all the languages what language of all the languages you've tried what was the hardest for you've tried what was the hardest for you've tried what was the hardest for you the hardest maybe Polish Polish you the hardest maybe Polish Polish you the hardest maybe Polish Polish Polish because it's a complete different Polish because it's a complete different Polish because it's a complete different set of uh grammatical structures I see set of uh grammatical structures I see set of uh grammatical structures I see polish I polish I polish I gu I bet you know that one yeah yes of gu I bet you know that one yeah yes of gu I bet you know that one yeah yes of course drinking beers come on I know we course drinking beers come on I know we course drinking beers come on I know we definitely have to have a round to with definitely have to have a round to with definitely have to have a round to with some with some wine and beer but the um
54:00some with some wine and beer but the um some with some wine and beer but the um the next question I'd love to ask is uh the next question I'd love to ask is uh the next question I'd love to ask is uh perhaps a simple one but why are people perhaps a simple one but why are people perhaps a simple one but why are people fat uh and how can people develop more fat uh and how can people develop more fat uh and how can people develop more Brown fat and use it effectively yes Brown fat and use it effectively yes Brown fat and use it effectively yes people are uh being fed because it's a people are uh being fed because it's a people are uh being fed because it's a protective mechanism of the of our protective mechanism of the of our protective mechanism of the of our bodies It's actually an an answer to to bodies It's actually an an answer to to bodies It's actually an an answer to to on too much impact too much wrong on too much impact too much wrong on too much impact too much wrong chemistry going on so it wants to make chemistry going on so it wants to make chemistry going on so it wants to make an an an insulation that's a that's a natural insulation that's a that's a natural insulation that's a that's a natural thing to do of the body now we are thing to do of the body now we are thing to do of the body now we are suffering from that now it's called suffering from that now it's called suffering from that now it's called obesity and you being overweight and we obesity and you being overweight and we obesity and you being overweight and we have no control just bring them back to have no control just bring them back to have no control just bring them back to the control how do we do that by by by the control how do we do that by by by the control how do we do that by by by this OST Brown fat ose because they have this OST Brown fat ose because they have this OST Brown fat ose because they have a mostly of those people have also an of a mostly of those people have also an of a mostly of those people have also an of brown fat because they have no
55:00brown fat because they have no brown fat because they have no stimulation anymore for a longer time stimulation anymore for a longer time stimulation anymore for a longer time and then this insulation uh reflex is and then this insulation uh reflex is and then this insulation uh reflex is beginning to build up and build up but beginning to build up and build up but beginning to build up and build up but actually this is telling hey guy I'm actually this is telling hey guy I'm actually this is telling hey guy I'm trying to do my best for you but you are trying to do my best for you but you are trying to do my best for you but you are not doing anything in return and as long not doing anything in return and as long not doing anything in return and as long as you're not triggering or stimulating as you're not triggering or stimulating as you're not triggering or stimulating the adpost the brown fed then it it the adpost the brown fed then it it the adpost the brown fed then it it succumbs it it goes away and succumbs it it goes away and succumbs it it goes away and and and then it is not able to uh to uh and and then it is not able to uh to uh and and then it is not able to uh to uh uh uh to divert white fat into energy uh uh to divert white fat into energy uh uh to divert white fat into energy anymore right so it's gone with people anymore right so it's gone with people anymore right so it's gone with people with obesity they have no Brown fat with obesity they have no Brown fat with obesity they have no Brown fat anymore so there is a logic explanation anymore so there is a logic explanation anymore so there is a logic explanation to it and I know it so they have to to it and I know it so they have to to it and I know it so they have to bring it back and is that cold exposure bring it back and is that cold exposure bring it back and is that cold exposure primarily that would be the first step primarily that would be the first step primarily that would be the first step to try to cold cold exposure uh natural to try to cold cold exposure uh natural to try to cold cold exposure uh natural exposure to the elements that's one in exposure to the elements that's one in exposure to the elements that's one in an Adaptive way gradual way I mean then
56:00an Adaptive way gradual way I mean then an Adaptive way gradual way I mean then we are able to adapt toward it but as we are able to adapt toward it but as we are able to adapt toward it but as these mechanisms are not working really these mechanisms are not working really these mechanisms are not working really well within these people so they have to well within these people so they have to well within these people so they have to be very uh you know sensitive and and be very uh you know sensitive and and be very uh you know sensitive and and and gradual going into it and breathing and gradual going into it and breathing and gradual going into it and breathing breathing is chemistry is breathing is chemistry is breathing is chemistry is chem is influencing the chemistry chem is influencing the chemistry chem is influencing the chemistry right here right now better breathing right here right now better breathing right here right now better breathing deeper breathing brings about a better deeper breathing brings about a better deeper breathing brings about a better pH degree in the body which then finally pH degree in the body which then finally pH degree in the body which then finally results in a faster metabolism and if results in a faster metabolism and if results in a faster metabolism and if people are practicing this or want to P people are practicing this or want to P people are practicing this or want to P practice this breathing on their own is practice this breathing on their own is practice this breathing on their own is there any particular uh Mantra or there any particular uh Mantra or there any particular uh Mantra or anything they should focus on or say to anything they should focus on or say to anything they should focus on or say to themselves as they're doing this is any themselves as they're doing this is any themselves as they're doing this is any type of meditation okay to start with type of meditation okay to start with type of meditation okay to start with like using an app like headspace or calm like using an app like headspace or calm like using an app like headspace or calm or do you have a particular or do you have a particular or do you have a particular recommendation if someone said I have 10 recommendation if someone said I have 10 recommendation if someone said I have 10 minutes a day I'm willing to spend doing minutes a day I'm willing to spend doing minutes a day I'm willing to spend doing this um what would you say to them yeah
57:00this um what would you say to them yeah this um what would you say to them yeah just have your favorite music on on go just have your favorite music on on go just have your favorite music on on go really into it and go really into the really into it and go really into the really into it and go really into the breathing because it's about chemical breathing because it's about chemical breathing because it's about chemical changes and uh whenever you hear the changes and uh whenever you hear the changes and uh whenever you hear the right music you are able to relax more right music you are able to relax more right music you are able to relax more and more oxygen than is able to get into and more oxygen than is able to get into and more oxygen than is able to get into the body which is finally changing the the body which is finally changing the the body which is finally changing the the pH levels in the body uh to the to the pH levels in the body uh to the to the pH levels in the body uh to the to it Natural State that's what we have it Natural State that's what we have it Natural State that's what we have because we live in such a you know because we live in such a you know because we live in such a you know compressed compressed compressed Society uh too much stress going on we Society uh too much stress going on we Society uh too much stress going on we do not have control over the stress we do not have control over the stress we do not have control over the stress we get out of our Natural State So within get out of our Natural State So within get out of our Natural State So within 10 minutes we are I say within four 10 minutes we are I say within four 10 minutes we are I say within four minutes just do this breathing exercise minutes just do this breathing exercise minutes just do this breathing exercise which I teach people and do push-ups which I teach people and do push-ups which I teach people and do push-ups push-ups without air in the lungs you push-ups without air in the lungs you push-ups without air in the lungs you should do thato so so you do that after should do thato so so you do that after should do thato so so you do that after the after the
58:00the after the the after the exhale yes after the first you do like exhale yes after the first you do like exhale yes after the first you do like 30 like I explained deeply within let go 30 like I explained deeply within let go 30 like I explained deeply within let go deeply within uh look at the deeply within uh look at the deeply within uh look at the indications feeling loose in the body H indications feeling loose in the body H indications feeling loose in the body H light headed uh contractions a little light headed uh contractions a little light headed uh contractions a little bit tingling that's all okay like 30 or bit tingling that's all okay like 30 or bit tingling that's all okay like 30 or 40 deep breaths and then Letting Go 40 40 deep breaths and then Letting Go 40 40 deep breaths and then Letting Go 40 times then you will times then you will times then you will arrive at that being charged with oxygen arrive at that being charged with oxygen arrive at that being charged with oxygen and the CO2 carbon dioxide got got away and the CO2 carbon dioxide got got away and the CO2 carbon dioxide got got away pH level is gotten up then you shot pH level is gotten up then you shot pH level is gotten up then you shot breathe in fully letting go after breathe in fully letting go after breathe in fully letting go after exhalation you stop and you go do exhalation you stop and you go do exhalation you stop and you go do push-ups and you will see you are able push-ups and you will see you are able push-ups and you will see you are able to do more push-ups without air in the to do more push-ups without air in the to do more push-ups without air in the lungs because you influenced into the lungs because you influenced into the lungs because you influenced into the chemistry H that's and uh probably a chemistry H that's and uh probably a chemistry H that's and uh probably a good idea to do on a soft surface first good idea to do on a soft surface first good idea to do on a soft surface first just just in case you decide to kiss the
59:00just just in case you decide to kiss the just just in case you decide to kiss the floor a little too hard uh no this is floor a little too hard uh no this is floor a little too hard uh no this is something that uh that lared and his something that uh that lared and his something that uh that lared and his guys have been working on as well I mean guys have been working on as well I mean guys have been working on as well I mean a lot of these guys are working in doing a lot of these guys are working in doing a lot of these guys are working in doing push-ups or stationary bike um very push-ups or stationary bike um very push-ups or stationary bike um very interesting they have free divers that interesting they have free divers that interesting they have free divers that uh they sometimes work out with it's uh they sometimes work out with it's uh they sometimes work out with it's very fascinating um great well I'm I'm very fascinating um great well I'm I'm very fascinating um great well I'm I'm going to try that I would love to switch going to try that I would love to switch going to try that I would love to switch gears just a little bit and ask you a gears just a little bit and ask you a gears just a little bit and ask you a couple of uh rapid questions you can couple of uh rapid questions you can couple of uh rapid questions you can certainly take your time it doesn't mean certainly take your time it doesn't mean certainly take your time it doesn't mean you have to answer them quick you have to answer them quick you have to answer them quick but um the the first is when you think but um the the first is when you think but um the the first is when you think of the word successful who is the first of the word successful who is the first of the word successful who is the first person who comes to mind for person who comes to mind for person who comes to mind for you the heart in any person the heart you the heart in any person the heart you the heart in any person the heart the heart in any the heart in any the heart in any person that that that that's success further maybe success further maybe Mandela Nelson Mandela yes and and with Mandela Nelson Mandela yes and and with Mandela Nelson Mandela yes and and with the heart if someone feels like if the heart if someone feels like if the heart if someone feels like if someone doesn't feel someone doesn't feel someone doesn't feel successful uh uh what would you what successful uh uh what would you what successful uh uh what would you what would your advice be to them or what would your advice be to them or what would your advice be to them or what would you what would you say to them
1:00would you what would you say to them would you what would you say to them yeah just do the method I mean this yeah just do the method I mean this yeah just do the method I mean this method is showing scientifically to be method is showing scientifically to be method is showing scientifically to be able to tap into the deepest of our able to tap into the deepest of our able to tap into the deepest of our physiology if somebody feels he's physiology if somebody feels he's physiology if somebody feels he's frustrated is because he is not able to frustrated is because he is not able to frustrated is because he is not able to tap in his or hers physiology at the tap in his or hers physiology at the tap in his or hers physiology at the deepest he has no control that makes deepest he has no control that makes deepest he has no control that makes people frustrated and we H we we mirror people frustrated and we H we we mirror people frustrated and we H we we mirror that with society and all that but you that with society and all that but you that with society and all that but you got your vehicle if you are able to got your vehicle if you are able to got your vehicle if you are able to steer your vehicle your body your mind steer your vehicle your body your mind steer your vehicle your body your mind toward whatever you feel then you will toward whatever you feel then you will toward whatever you feel then you will be successful so any yes I'm sorry trip be successful so any yes I'm sorry trip be successful so any yes I'm sorry trip I was just gonna ask why Nelson I was just gonna ask why Nelson I was just gonna ask why Nelson Mandela ah yeah he's just a good guy he Mandela ah yeah he's just a good guy he Mandela ah yeah he's just a good guy he was always smiling he loved the women was always smiling he loved the women was always smiling he loved the women and uh he he stayed like 25 years and uh he he stayed like 25 years and uh he he stayed like 25 years believing in his case right that makes believing in his case right that makes believing in his case right that makes him for me really strong and uh I love
1:01him for me really strong and uh I love him for me really strong and uh I love people who have faith simply because people who have faith simply because people who have faith simply because that's what I feel that's what I feel that's what I feel and yes and yes and yes I I've been so so many years neglected I I've been so so many years neglected I I've been so so many years neglected and mocked mocked and all that but I and mocked mocked and all that but I and mocked mocked and all that but I always had my faith and now it is always had my faith and now it is always had my faith and now it is science for the same like 20 years ago science for the same like 20 years ago science for the same like 20 years ago they told me you're crazy you're an they told me you're crazy you're an they told me you're crazy you're an idiot you're a lunatic and and all that idiot you're a lunatic and and all that idiot you're a lunatic and and all that yes and even my in my family I was the yes and even my in my family I was the yes and even my in my family I was the black sheep and right now I'm the black sheep and right now I'm the black sheep and right now I'm the whitest sheep ever so it's a lot of hypocrisy going on ever so it's a lot of hypocrisy going on in the world because people do not know in the world because people do not know in the world because people do not know but I got my faith I got my belief and I but I got my faith I got my belief and I but I got my faith I got my belief and I want to go up to the point that we want to go up to the point that we want to go up to the point that we scientifically show that everybody is scientifically show that everybody is scientifically show that everybody is able to tap in it's endocrine system H able to tap in it's endocrine system H able to tap in it's endocrine system H so much that depression and being so much that depression and being so much that depression and being unhappy and being frustrated is no
1:02unhappy and being frustrated is no unhappy and being frustrated is no longer part of humanity it's a choice no longer part of humanity it's a choice no longer part of humanity it's a choice no this is a this is a topic I I think we this is a this is a topic I I think we this is a this is a topic I I think we could talk about for a long time what is could talk about for a long time what is could talk about for a long time what is your favorite book or the book that your favorite book or the book that your favorite book or the book that you've given to other people the most as you've given to other people the most as you've given to other people the most as a a a gift whoa I never gave so many books gift whoa I never gave so many books gift whoa I never gave so many books except for the books I'm writing right except for the books I'm writing right except for the books I'm writing right now what do you give to people as gifts now what do you give to people as gifts now what do you give to people as gifts what do you like give people as gifts oh what do you like give people as gifts oh what do you like give people as gifts oh as Stones Stones a lot of and natural as Stones Stones a lot of and natural as Stones Stones a lot of and natural things I give people Natural Things oh I things I give people Natural Things oh I things I give people Natural Things oh I collect a a whole bunch of things and collect a a whole bunch of things and collect a a whole bunch of things and then two months later I'm I'm fed up then two months later I'm I'm fed up then two months later I'm I'm fed up with the thing and I think this one with the thing and I think this one with the thing and I think this one wants to go with wants to go with wants to go with you and those are beautiful Stones when you and those are beautiful Stones when you and those are beautiful Stones when I saw them the first time I thought wow I saw them the first time I thought wow I saw them the first time I thought wow great Stone beautiful oh this artifact great Stone beautiful oh this artifact great Stone beautiful oh this artifact oh what great wow nice then two months oh what great wow nice then two months oh what great wow nice then two months lat later I'm say it's gone you know lat later I'm say it's gone you know lat later I'm say it's gone you know then I just give it away and so H with
1:03then I just give it away and so H with then I just give it away and so H with books the same thing uh as sidarta books the same thing uh as sidarta books the same thing uh as sidarta sidarta and Jonathan Livingston Seagull sidarta and Jonathan Livingston Seagull sidarta and Jonathan Livingston Seagull comes to my comes to my comes to my mind that's okay and some mind that's okay and some mind that's okay and some scriptures I read about bav Gita and the scriptures I read about bav Gita and the scriptures I read about bav Gita and the Bible of Bible of Bible of course all these books H I was reading course all these books H I was reading course all these books H I was reading hundreds of books and at a certain point hundreds of books and at a certain point hundreds of books and at a certain point I could not make the connection with my I could not make the connection with my I could not make the connection with my the deepest Within Myself which was the the deepest Within Myself which was the the deepest Within Myself which was the Seeker I was soul searching and I found Seeker I was soul searching and I found Seeker I was soul searching and I found it finally in the open book of the Ice it finally in the open book of the Ice it finally in the open book of the Ice Water because the ice water is merciless Water because the ice water is merciless Water because the ice water is merciless but righteous it brings you just within but righteous it brings you just within but righteous it brings you just within and H there is no uh there is no and H there is no uh there is no and H there is no uh there is no chitchatting around that there is no chitchatting around that there is no chitchatting around that there is no philosophy you just do it right or you philosophy you just do it right or you philosophy you just do it right or you do it do it do it wrong now you you've had of course some
1:04wrong now you you've had of course some wrong now you you've had of course some some very challenging times um perhaps some very challenging times um perhaps some very challenging times um perhaps more so than many people i' I've spoken more so than many people i' I've spoken more so than many people i' I've spoken with you had very you know tragic with you had very you know tragic with you had very you know tragic premature death with your wife in the in premature death with your wife in the in premature death with your wife in the in the case of your wife uh what do you do the case of your wife uh what do you do the case of your wife uh what do you do to to overcome those dark to to overcome those dark to to overcome those dark periods yes very uh uh very good very periods yes very uh uh very good very periods yes very uh uh very good very interesting very real and deep Going H interesting very real and deep Going H interesting very real and deep Going H losing uh the person you love I have losing uh the person you love I have losing uh the person you love I have four children with her they work with me four children with her they work with me four children with her they work with me right now they are like 33 years old the right now they are like 33 years old the right now they are like 33 years old the oldest one and uh then two daughters and oldest one and uh then two daughters and oldest one and uh then two daughters and another son and they all work with me another son and they all work with me another son and they all work with me right now oh oh actually one is working right now oh oh actually one is working right now oh oh actually one is working right now at the Dutch Embassy in right now at the Dutch Embassy in right now at the Dutch Embassy in Washington DC in Washington DC in Washington DC in America but the rest is working with me America but the rest is working with me America but the rest is working with me all the time so H losing the love of all the time so H losing the love of all the time so H losing the love of your life how deep can you go and being
1:05your life how deep can you go and being your life how deep can you go and being teed teed teed apart that was what I was experienc at apart that was what I was experienc at apart that was what I was experienc at the time but then I was the only person the time but then I was the only person the time but then I was the only person who was uh re who yeah I was alone and I who was uh re who yeah I was alone and I who was uh re who yeah I was alone and I had to raise four kids alone and that had to raise four kids alone and that had to raise four kids alone and that they were like seven years old 8 years 9 they were like seven years old 8 years 9 they were like seven years old 8 years 9 years and 11 years and I had to raise years and 11 years and I had to raise years and 11 years and I had to raise them alone so I received so much them alone so I received so much them alone so I received so much love of of my kids and I did my training love of of my kids and I did my training love of of my kids and I did my training and as I told you the the brain stem is and as I told you the the brain stem is and as I told you the the brain stem is also the area of the seed of emotion also the area of the seed of emotion also the area of the seed of emotion which is the which is the which is the amigdala and because of this training in amigdala and because of this training in amigdala and because of this training in the cold I could control silence myself the cold I could control silence myself the cold I could control silence myself and go on and always find the energy to and go on and always find the energy to and go on and always find the energy to go on and to be a father happy and go on and to be a father happy and go on and to be a father happy and exercising and practical and uh with my
1:06exercising and practical and uh with my exercising and practical and uh with my kids and uh they gave me a lot of love kids and uh they gave me a lot of love kids and uh they gave me a lot of love but the thing about grief and the but the thing about grief and the but the thing about grief and the emotion is you have to go deep because emotion is you have to go deep because emotion is you have to go deep because emotion is going deep and as we live in emotion is going deep and as we live in emotion is going deep and as we live in the comfort zone we have no control the comfort zone we have no control the comfort zone we have no control mostly over emotion and I tell you there mostly over emotion and I tell you there mostly over emotion and I tell you there is way to uh control the seed of emotion is way to uh control the seed of emotion is way to uh control the seed of emotion which is Thea connected to the in the which is Thea connected to the in the which is Thea connected to the in the area of the brain stem so I think this area of the brain stem so I think this area of the brain stem so I think this not think my experience tells me not think my experience tells me not think my experience tells me discipline discipline and believing discipline discipline and believing discipline discipline and believing believing within there is a weight to believing within there is a weight to believing within there is a weight to silence H grieved broken hearts uh grief silence H grieved broken hearts uh grief silence H grieved broken hearts uh grief and and uh hurt emotions and and uh hurt emotions and and uh hurt emotions yes it's it's a way I did it and the um
1:07yes it's it's a way I did it and the um yes it's it's a way I did it and the um it's it's really been fascinating for me it's it's really been fascinating for me it's it's really been fascinating for me to observe a number of people I won't to observe a number of people I won't to observe a number of people I won't mention some of the other names but who mention some of the other names but who mention some of the other names but who have used have used have used specifically uh exposure to the cold to specifically uh exposure to the cold to specifically uh exposure to the cold to I suppose the purity of that cold and I suppose the purity of that cold and I suppose the purity of that cold and the attention that requires the sort of the attention that requires the sort of the attention that requires the sort of purity of attention that it requires to purity of attention that it requires to purity of attention that it requires to overcome very dark periods or be to act overcome very dark periods or be to act overcome very dark periods or be to act as a very strong component for passing as a very strong component for passing as a very strong component for passing through those difficult periods it's through those difficult periods it's through those difficult periods it's it's just a it's a very fascinating it's just a it's a very fascinating it's just a it's a very fascinating pattern that I've observed in a number pattern that I've observed in a number pattern that I've observed in a number of my a number of my friends uh I of my a number of my friends uh I of my a number of my friends uh I recognize it what is what is your recognize it what is what is your recognize it what is what is your morning the first 60 Minutes of your day morning the first 60 Minutes of your day morning the first 60 Minutes of your day look like when do you wake up what do look like when do you wake up what do look like when do you wake up what do you do in those first 60 minutes if you you do in those first 60 minutes if you you do in those first 60 minutes if you have complete control over that morning have complete control over that morning have complete control over that morning first I begin to conscious breathing first I begin to conscious breathing first I begin to conscious breathing where consciously breathe when you wake where consciously breathe when you wake where consciously breathe when you wake up yes life is all about vital force up yes life is all about vital force up yes life is all about vital force created by oxygen just it's for free and created by oxygen just it's for free and created by oxygen just it's for free and it's there and I said it's to me it's
1:08it's there and I said it's to me it's it's there and I said it's to me it's it's God itself like P the vital for the it's God itself like P the vital for the it's God itself like P the vital for the The Prana it's all a different names of The Prana it's all a different names of The Prana it's all a different names of God they tell all the the the uh belief God they tell all the the the uh belief God they tell all the the the uh belief systems tell that that's the vital force systems tell that that's the vital force systems tell that that's the vital force of any yeah of of life itself so that's of any yeah of of life itself so that's of any yeah of of life itself so that's the that's a very logic natural way I the that's a very logic natural way I the that's a very logic natural way I begin just breathe still lay still begin just breathe still lay still begin just breathe still lay still laying in bed yes still laying in bed laying in bed yes still laying in bed laying in bed yes still laying in bed and then uh to do doing the exercise uh and then uh to do doing the exercise uh and then uh to do doing the exercise uh which I explained prior in this which I explained prior in this which I explained prior in this interview H is yeah is is very nice interview H is yeah is is very nice interview H is yeah is is very nice because you are still very relaxed and because you are still very relaxed and because you are still very relaxed and the body body is uh without tension so the body body is uh without tension so the body body is uh without tension so you then are able to go tap deeply into you then are able to go tap deeply into you then are able to go tap deeply into the system and how long will you do that the system and how long will you do that the system and how long will you do that in bed typically yes I stay a half hour
1:09in bed typically yes I stay a half hour in bed typically yes I stay a half hour something like that before um going into something like that before um going into something like that before um going into action could be an hour because it's action could be an hour because it's action could be an hour because it's never never never never never never boring yeah really is what would you say boring yeah really is what would you say boring yeah really is what would you say to someone who says you know actually I to someone who says you know actually I to someone who says you know actually I find it really boring I'm not saying find it really boring I'm not saying find it really boring I'm not saying that I feel that way but if if someone that I feel that way but if if someone that I feel that way but if if someone felt boring what would you what would felt boring what would you what would felt boring what would you what would you advise them or what would you tell you advise them or what would you tell you advise them or what would you tell them it's it's once again the same thing them it's it's once again the same thing them it's it's once again the same thing as this as this as this Californian great guy de yeah Dean cares Californian great guy de yeah Dean cares Californian great guy de yeah Dean cares yeah yeah Dean yeah yeah Dean yeah yeah Dean caret they don't know what Comfort is caret they don't know what Comfort is caret they don't know what Comfort is all about so H going de just by all about so H going de just by all about so H going de just by breathing into the depth of our breathing into the depth of our breathing into the depth of our physiology is like gaining the aim of physiology is like gaining the aim of physiology is like gaining the aim of all those people going into outdoor or all those people going into outdoor or all those people going into outdoor or taking drugs taking drugs taking drugs or doing extremes or going for a rush or doing extremes or going for a rush or doing extremes or going for a rush now you can are able to learn to control now you can are able to learn to control now you can are able to learn to control the depth of your physiology by just
1:10the depth of your physiology by just the depth of your physiology by just breathing properly and going into that breathing properly and going into that breathing properly and going into that system and H boring is system and H boring is system and H boring is something if you are doing things rape something if you are doing things rape something if you are doing things rape tiously but not breaking through the tiously but not breaking through the tiously but not breaking through the conditioning right and I learn people to conditioning right and I learn people to conditioning right and I learn people to go through the conditioning right so you go through the conditioning right so you go through the conditioning right so you have to be conscious about the activity have to be conscious about the activity have to be conscious about the activity you can't be daydreaming well you can't be daydreaming well you can't be daydreaming well it seems you just have to be attentive it seems you just have to be attentive it seems you just have to be attentive to your breathing when you're doing to your breathing when you're doing to your breathing when you're doing something like this yes yes just go into something like this yes yes just go into something like this yes yes just go into it it's like Vasa meditation that's what it it's like Vasa meditation that's what it it's like Vasa meditation that's what they do you know they sit and they just they do you know they sit and they just they do you know they sit and they just listen and and focus on breathing that's listen and and focus on breathing that's listen and and focus on breathing that's all and what they do and and they get all and what they do and and they get all and what they do and and they get into a deeper layer of their brain into a deeper layer of their brain into a deeper layer of their brain because they are not giving their focus because they are not giving their focus because they are not giving their focus to something else than just mere to something else than just mere to something else than just mere breathing breathing breathing it is so simple but so effective I'll it is so simple but so effective I'll it is so simple but so effective I'll try that tomorrow morning the so let's
1:11try that tomorrow morning the so let's try that tomorrow morning the so let's say you do that for a half hour uh then say you do that for a half hour uh then say you do that for a half hour uh then what do you do for the next half what do you do for the next half what do you do for the next half hour um nowadays I do a lot I um doing a hour um nowadays I do a lot I um doing a hour um nowadays I do a lot I um doing a lot of workshops uh lectures and I'm uh lot of workshops uh lectures and I'm uh lot of workshops uh lectures and I'm uh into science but yeah uh for in between into science but yeah uh for in between into science but yeah uh for in between I do exercising I like exercising what I do exercising I like exercising what I do exercising I like exercising what type of exercise do you if you had to type of exercise do you if you had to type of exercise do you if you had to choose one type of exercise or two types choose one type of exercise or two types choose one type of exercise or two types of exercise for yourself what would you of exercise for yourself what would you of exercise for yourself what would you choose strength and flexibility what choose strength and flexibility what choose strength and flexibility what would you do for both of those uh would you do for both of those uh would you do for both of those uh strength for example stay on two arms strength for example stay on two arms strength for example stay on two arms say four minutes like a plank or just say four minutes like a plank or just say four minutes like a plank or just different types of poses on two arms different types of poses on two arms different types of poses on two arms yeah with one hand or two a plank or a yeah with one hand or two a plank or a yeah with one hand or two a plank or a handstands or pull-ups push-ups of handstands or pull-ups push-ups of handstands or pull-ups push-ups of course MH uh those are you know power course MH uh those are you know power course MH uh those are you know power exess exercises or stand in a horse St exess exercises or stand in a horse St exess exercises or stand in a horse St for an hour that sometimes just to with
1:12for an hour that sometimes just to with for an hour that sometimes just to with stones in my hands and I make all kinds stones in my hands and I make all kinds stones in my hands and I make all kinds of kung fu like uh movements just make of kung fu like uh movements just make of kung fu like uh movements just make them up and but you know to ble my them up and but you know to ble my them up and but you know to ble my acidic uh the acidic processes in in my acidic uh the acidic processes in in my acidic uh the acidic processes in in my body so I go deeply into the horse St body so I go deeply into the horse St body so I go deeply into the horse St and uh breathe in a way that the uh is and uh breathe in a way that the uh is and uh breathe in a way that the uh is not developing in the body so that makes not developing in the body so that makes not developing in the body so that makes me control the body and uh yeah feels me control the body and uh yeah feels me control the body and uh yeah feels good and then for good and then for good and then for flexibility yeah all kinds of splits and flexibility yeah all kinds of splits and flexibility yeah all kinds of splits and put a couple of legs in my behind my put a couple of legs in my behind my put a couple of legs in my behind my head things you know I do balancing uh head things you know I do balancing uh head things you know I do balancing uh exercises it's exercises it's exercises it's nice I I maintain the body in that way nice I I maintain the body in that way nice I I maintain the body in that way right do you listen to music when you're right do you listen to music when you're right do you listen to music when you're exercising or do you do it without music exercising or do you do it without music exercising or do you do it without music I I simp have no record systems but in I I simp have no record systems but in I I simp have no record systems but in right now I'm uh we bought a center so I
1:13right now I'm uh we bought a center so I right now I'm uh we bought a center so I will have my big dojo will have my big dojo will have my big dojo and Cascade and all that and a swimming and Cascade and all that and a swimming and Cascade and all that and a swimming pool and and all those things and then I pool and and all those things and then I pool and and all those things and then I will have the right music I make music will have the right music I make music will have the right music I make music myself I uh I play the guitar I sing I myself I uh I play the guitar I sing I myself I uh I play the guitar I sing I want to make a CD very soon and uh want to make a CD very soon and uh want to make a CD very soon and uh people like me singing uh doing all people like me singing uh doing all people like me singing uh doing all kinds of mantras because I you know kinds of mantras because I you know kinds of mantras because I you know learned about the Sanskrit learned about the Sanskrit learned about the Sanskrit and Spanish songs English songs and all and Spanish songs English songs and all and Spanish songs English songs and all kinds of songs I I just make up I'm I'm kinds of songs I I just make up I'm I'm kinds of songs I I just make up I'm I'm a sort of a rapper too so yeah I'd love a sort of a rapper too so yeah I'd love a sort of a rapper too so yeah I'd love to hear it and what What musician do you to hear it and what What musician do you to hear it and what What musician do you look up to the most is there a look up to the most is there a look up to the most is there a particular musician that you uh ADM that particular musician that you uh ADM that particular musician that you uh ADM that you would like to emulate or look up to you would like to emulate or look up to you would like to emulate or look up to I like a lot a lot a lot of Lounge I like a lot a lot a lot of Lounge I like a lot a lot a lot of Lounge easy music I like Michael Jackson easy music I like Michael Jackson easy music I like Michael Jackson Michael Jackson's great yeah yeah he is
1:14Michael Jackson's great yeah yeah he is Michael Jackson's great yeah yeah he is do you have a do you have a favorite do you have a do you have a favorite do you have a do you have a favorite song or favorite album uh of of Michael song or favorite album uh of of Michael song or favorite album uh of of Michael Jackson Jackson Jackson yes yeah all the songs this is it for yes yeah all the songs this is it for yes yeah all the songs this is it for example a greater oh yeah great Thriller example a greater oh yeah great Thriller example a greater oh yeah great Thriller is great and he his voice is mmer oh is great and he his voice is mmer oh is great and he his voice is mmer oh yeah totally yes so I I I I I um gave my yeah totally yes so I I I I I um gave my yeah totally yes so I I I I I um gave my son son son his name which is Michael which is one his name which is Michael which is one his name which is Michael which is one of my sons so than that that but also of my sons so than that that but also of my sons so than that that but also Pink Floyd also Gypsy Kings you know Pink Floyd also Gypsy Kings you know Pink Floyd also Gypsy Kings you know with the flam Flamingo and all the good with the flam Flamingo and all the good with the flam Flamingo and all the good music there's a lot of good music going music there's a lot of good music going music there's a lot of good music going on and uh yes well I can't wait to visit on and uh yes well I can't wait to visit on and uh yes well I can't wait to visit the uh the center is that going to be in the uh the center is that going to be in the uh the center is that going to be in Holland yes okay it's for now it's in Holland yes okay it's for now it's in Holland yes okay it's for now it's in Holland I was looking to make a center Holland I was looking to make a center Holland I was looking to make a center in uh near San Francisco as well I got in uh near San Francisco as well I got in uh near San Francisco as well I got some very good friends over there you some very good friends over there you some very good friends over there you should you should you should come out should you should you should come out should you should you should come out maybe we'll do a workshop and I could
1:15maybe we'll do a workshop and I could maybe we'll do a workshop and I could introduce you to uh I'll invite Dean as introduce you to uh I'll invite Dean as introduce you to uh I'll invite Dean as well you could meet Dean yes yes he's a well you could meet Dean yes yes he's a well you could meet Dean yes yes he's a great guy he's a great guy he would love great guy he's a great guy he would love great guy he's a great guy he would love he would love to meet you I'm sure the he would love to meet you I'm sure the he would love to meet you I'm sure the um just a few more questions I want to um just a few more questions I want to um just a few more questions I want to be obviously respectful of your time be obviously respectful of your time be obviously respectful of your time what uh what purchase in the last you what uh what purchase in the last you what uh what purchase in the last you know six months or a year of less than know six months or a year of less than know six months or a year of less than $100 so something you bought for less $100 so something you bought for less $100 so something you bought for less than $100 has most positively impacted than $100 has most positively impacted than $100 has most positively impacted your life your life your life uh Stones Stones I love these Stones I uh Stones Stones I love these Stones I uh Stones Stones I love these Stones I want to talk about Stones so so how do want to talk about Stones so so how do want to talk about Stones so so how do you find these stones and what makes you you find these stones and what makes you you find these stones and what makes you pick one do you have any favorites I pick one do you have any favorites I pick one do you have any favorites I always take uh stones out whatever always take uh stones out whatever always take uh stones out whatever touches my meets the eye uh I I take touches my meets the eye uh I I take touches my meets the eye uh I I take them from the mountains I climb but I I them from the mountains I climb but I I them from the mountains I climb but I I also like these you know amethysts and also like these you know amethysts and also like these you know amethysts and Opals and all kinds of you know Opals and all kinds of you know Opals and all kinds of you know beautiful stones with beautiful colors beautiful stones with beautiful colors beautiful stones with beautiful colors MH like them but uh yeah I always take MH like them but uh yeah I always take MH like them but uh yeah I always take stones from the uh I just found a big
1:16stones from the uh I just found a big stones from the uh I just found a big fossile in the in the Spanish pyrames fossile in the in the Spanish pyrames fossile in the in the Spanish pyrames you know big big big means like two you know big big big means like two you know big big big means like two three kilos it's it's a big big fossil three kilos it's it's a big big fossil three kilos it's it's a big big fossil yeah yeah a fossile and and I I couldn't yeah yeah a fossile and and I I couldn't yeah yeah a fossile and and I I couldn't get it down because I wasn't there with get it down because I wasn't there with get it down because I wasn't there with a group that I had had no uh backpack I a group that I had had no uh backpack I a group that I had had no uh backpack I had to carry the the ropes because we had to carry the the ropes because we had to carry the the ropes because we were doing canyoning and all that so but were doing canyoning and all that so but were doing canyoning and all that so but there was a girl from Austin Texas there was a girl from Austin Texas there was a girl from Austin Texas Austin Elizabeth Lee and she had a Austin Elizabeth Lee and she had a Austin Elizabeth Lee and she had a backpack and she she carried it there backpack and she she carried it there backpack and she she carried it there for me it's a good friend yeah oh yeah I for me it's a good friend yeah oh yeah I for me it's a good friend yeah oh yeah I love her so much yeah yeah so the what love her so much yeah yeah so the what love her so much yeah yeah so the what what effect do and did you do you put what effect do and did you do you put what effect do and did you do you put that in your kitchen where do you put that in your kitchen where do you put that in your kitchen where do you put such a such a stone and what effect does such a such a stone and what effect does such a such a stone and what effect does it have on you uh everywhere they they it have on you uh everywhere they they it have on you uh everywhere they they have a solid effect they are simply have a solid effect they are simply have a solid effect they are simply there and they are beautiful and I
1:17there and they are beautiful and I there and they are beautiful and I always pass them on to other people always pass them on to other people always pass them on to other people except for the big ones so what uh what advice would you ones so what uh what advice would you give your 30-year-old give your 30-year-old give your 30-year-old self my self my self my 30 just have faith just have Fai faith 30 just have faith just have Fai faith 30 just have faith just have Fai faith faith yes that that that what what type faith yes that that that what what type faith yes that that that what what type of faith that things will work out that of faith that things will work out that of faith that things will work out that things will be okay things will be okay things will be okay say a simple logic have simple logic and say a simple logic have simple logic and say a simple logic have simple logic and understand the things simply and listen understand the things simply and listen understand the things simply and listen to your to your to your feeling listen to your feeling your feeling listen to your feeling your feeling listen to your feeling your feeling it knows is it is simply sense feeling it knows is it is simply sense feeling it knows is it is simply sense making and that if you are letting it in making and that if you are letting it in making and that if you are letting it in your way of thinking then never lose your way of thinking then never lose your way of thinking then never lose track of whatever makes sense which is track of whatever makes sense which is track of whatever makes sense which is feeling which is in Instinct and feeling which is in Instinct and feeling which is in Instinct and intuition right right this is something intuition right right this is something intuition right right this is something I've been trying to work on a lot I've been trying to work on a lot I've been trying to work on a lot because it's easy for me at least to get
1:18because it's easy for me at least to get because it's easy for me at least to get trapped in my neocortex to get trapped trapped in my neocortex to get trapped trapped in my neocortex to get trapped exactly in the front of my brain where I exactly in the front of my brain where I exactly in the front of my brain where I can make pro and con lists but the can make pro and con lists but the can make pro and con lists but the answer is so obvious sometimes because answer is so obvious sometimes because answer is so obvious sometimes because you know that something's wrong or you you know that something's wrong or you you know that something's wrong or you know that someone isn't a good fit or know that someone isn't a good fit or know that someone isn't a good fit or you don't trust someone just like yeah you don't trust someone just like yeah you don't trust someone just like yeah you have that feeling like a dog where you have that feeling like a dog where you have that feeling like a dog where you immediately either like or dislike you immediately either like or dislike you immediately either like or dislike something yes so it's I've been trying something yes so it's I've been trying something yes so it's I've been trying to train myself to go back to that to train myself to go back to that to train myself to go back to that Simplicity it's um making sense it could Simplicity it's um making sense it could Simplicity it's um making sense it could be challenging yeah the so so one or two be challenging yeah the so so one or two be challenging yeah the so so one or two more questions the if if you could have more questions the if if you could have more questions the if if you could have one billboard one huge sign anywhere one billboard one huge sign anywhere one billboard one huge sign anywhere with anything on it uh what would it say with anything on it uh what would it say with anything on it uh what would it say and where would you put it I would say and where would you put it I would say and where would you put it I would say uh brief so you could put that on so you could put that on like a busy highway you could put that like a busy highway you could put that like a busy highway you could put that on like Sunset Boulevard in Los Angeles on like Sunset Boulevard in Los Angeles on like Sunset Boulevard in Los Angeles or maybe breathe and you know I don't know what the way
1:19and you know I don't know what the way they understand it but it's really meant they understand it but it's really meant they understand it but it's really meant lovable right really meant you know with lovable right really meant you know with lovable right really meant you know with strength it is the answer to the up till strength it is the answer to the up till strength it is the answer to the up till the DNA itself and it's not me telling the DNA itself and it's not me telling the DNA itself and it's not me telling that anymore because of the blood that anymore because of the blood that anymore because of the blood results professors have confirmed that results professors have confirmed that results professors have confirmed that we are in the middle of DNA and what is we are in the middle of DNA and what is we are in the middle of DNA and what is the trigger breathing the trigger breathing the trigger breathing so this is uh so you could you could so this is uh so you could you could so this is uh so you could you could have it say breathe breathe have it say breathe breathe have it say breathe breathe with then a smiley a smiley face like a with then a smiley a smiley face like a with then a smiley a smiley face like a smiley emoticon that'd be smiley emoticon that'd be smiley emoticon that'd be perfect yes we got a t-shirt it says in perfect yes we got a t-shirt it says in perfect yes we got a t-shirt it says in the front the front the front freeze you know it's about the cold and freeze you know it's about the cold and freeze you know it's about the cold and and that the other side is breathe oh well you and I need to oh well you and I need to hang out more I uh this this has been hang out more I uh this this has been hang out more I uh this this has been great uh of course everybody listening great uh of course everybody listening great uh of course everybody listening I'm going to you put uh tons of links in I'm going to you put uh tons of links in I'm going to you put uh tons of links in the show notes you should check out the show notes you should check out the show notes you should check out Iceman Wim Hoff wi m h f uh definitely
1:20Iceman Wim Hoff wi m h f uh definitely Iceman Wim Hoff wi m h f uh definitely check out Wim Hoff method and I'll link check out Wim Hoff method and I'll link check out Wim Hoff method and I'll link to that in the show notes uh which is a to that in the show notes uh which is a to that in the show notes uh which is a 10-week online video course which a a 10-week online video course which a a 10-week online video course which a a bunch of people whose names you would bunch of people whose names you would bunch of people whose names you would know are are using right now it's very know are are using right now it's very know are are using right now it's very very interesting and there a bunch of very interesting and there a bunch of very interesting and there a bunch of documentaries and links to the textbooks documentaries and links to the textbooks documentaries and links to the textbooks I will include as well um whim do you I will include as well um whim do you I will include as well um whim do you have any last uh requests or asks of my have any last uh requests or asks of my have any last uh requests or asks of my audience there there are a lot of people audience there there are a lot of people audience there there are a lot of people who will be hearing this if you could who will be hearing this if you could who will be hearing this if you could ask them all to do something um besides ask them all to do something um besides ask them all to do something um besides check out the courses and so on what check out the courses and so on what check out the courses and so on what what would you ask them to do something what would you ask them to do something what would you ask them to do something they could do when they hear this or they could do when they hear this or they could do when they hear this or after they hear it yeah just pass on a after they hear it yeah just pass on a after they hear it yeah just pass on a breathe that's one and take a cold breathe that's one and take a cold breathe that's one and take a cold shower after a a a hot one and just get shower after a a a hot one and just get shower after a a a hot one and just get into the signs of this all it is into the signs of this all it is into the signs of this all it is non-speculative and for the rest I just non-speculative and for the rest I just non-speculative and for the rest I just love you love you love you guys well whim this is wonderful guys well whim this is wonderful guys well whim this is wonderful everybody listening I will link to all
1:21everybody listening I will link to all everybody listening I will link to all these things you can find whim on these things you can find whim on these things you can find whim on Twitter icem Twitter icem Twitter icem manhoff HF and I'll link to that manhoff HF and I'll link to that manhoff HF and I'll link to that Instagram same icem Instagram same icem Instagram same icem manhoff Facebook is uh facebook.com manhoff Facebook is uh facebook.com manhoff Facebook is uh facebook.com becoming the Iceman and uh whim thank becoming the Iceman and uh whim thank becoming the Iceman and uh whim thank you so much for taking the time this was you so much for taking the time this was you so much for taking the time this was a blast thank you very much I I hear a a blast thank you very much I I hear a a blast thank you very much I I hear a soulmate I thank you very much I love soulmate I thank you very much I love soulmate I thank you very much I love you very much greetings to uh Ray Kronas you very much greetings to uh Ray Kronas you very much greetings to uh Ray Kronas definitely you can talk to him be I will definitely you can talk to him be I will definitely you can talk to him be I will mail him also he loves you and uh he mail him also he loves you and uh he mail him also he loves you and uh he loves your work he loves my work you loves your work he loves my work you loves your work he loves my work you know we like to work to make love happen know we like to work to make love happen know we like to work to make love happen definitely well uh we will uh we'll play definitely well uh we will uh we'll play definitely well uh we will uh we'll play some guitar and have some wine and you some guitar and have some wine and you some guitar and have some wine and you can U oh yes I would love I would love can U oh yes I would love I would love can U oh yes I would love I would love to get into some shorts and uh and to get into some shorts and uh and to get into some shorts and uh and freeze my ass off and breathe at some freeze my ass off and breathe at some freeze my ass off and breathe at some point up point up point up up in the mountains that would be uh up in the mountains that would be uh up in the mountains that would be uh that would be great so uh until next that would be great so uh until next that would be great so uh until next time thank you everybody for listening
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