00:00today I had the wonderful opportunity to today I had the wonderful opportunity to speak to Robbie bner from Theos I bumped speak to Robbie bner from Theos I bumped speak to Robbie bner from Theos I bumped into Robbie over lunch at a mastermind into Robbie over lunch at a mastermind into Robbie over lunch at a mastermind group I soon realized he knew a thing or group I soon realized he knew a thing or group I soon realized he knew a thing or two about red light therapy and decided two about red light therapy and decided two about red light therapy and decided to get out the camera hit the record to get out the camera hit the record to get out the camera hit the record button and take a deep dive into his button and take a deep dive into his button and take a deep dive into his world Robbie has been a longtime world Robbie has been a longtime world Robbie has been a longtime advocate for natural health and wellness advocate for natural health and wellness advocate for natural health and wellness and when a family member was diagnosed and when a family member was diagnosed and when a family member was diagnosed with Lyme disease Robbie discovered the with Lyme disease Robbie discovered the with Lyme disease Robbie discovered the healing benefits of infrared and red healing benefits of infrared and red healing benefits of infrared and red light therapy from here Theos was born light therapy from here Theos was born light therapy from here Theos was born so in this conversation not only do we so in this conversation not only do we so in this conversation not only do we look at the history of Theos but we look look at the history of Theos but we look look at the history of Theos but we look at some of his Unique Products they're at some of his Unique Products they're at some of his Unique Products they're not the typical products that we see in not the typical products that we see in not the typical products that we see in the red light therapy space Theos are the red light therapy space Theos are the red light therapy space Theos are producing their products in America they producing their products in America they producing their products in America they also sell their portable infrared saer also sell their portable infrared saer also sell their portable infrared saer and an assortment of other health and and an assortment of other health and and an assortment of other health and wellness products okay let's get into wellness products okay let's get into wellness products okay let's get into the interview Okay cool so thank you so the interview Okay cool so thank you so the interview Okay cool so thank you so much Robbie for taking the time to sit much Robbie for taking the time to sit much Robbie for taking the time to sit down quite a amazing place and down quite a amazing place and down quite a amazing place and fortunately the sun's not too intense fortunately the sun's not too intense fortunately the sun's not too intense we'll see how we go we might start we'll see how we go we might start we'll see how we go we might start breaking out in sweat but I am uh I'm
01:00breaking out in sweat but I am uh I'm breaking out in sweat but I am uh I'm intrigued um we've obviously just met I intrigued um we've obviously just met I intrigued um we've obviously just met I I've heard about your company briefly I've heard about your company briefly I've heard about your company briefly but I don't know too much so let's let's but I don't know too much so let's let's but I don't know too much so let's let's roll the clock back a little bit okay roll the clock back a little bit okay roll the clock back a little bit okay you've been around for a long time how you've been around for a long time how you've been around for a long time how did this all kick off I have a medical did this all kick off I have a medical did this all kick off I have a medical background so I'm a healthcare provider background so I'm a healthcare provider background so I'm a healthcare provider our company is Theos I'm the device our company is Theos I'm the device our company is Theos I'm the device developer and the co-founder and our developer and the co-founder and our developer and the co-founder and our company is approximately 25 years company is approximately 25 years company is approximately 25 years old so we roll back the clock 25 years old so we roll back the clock 25 years old so we roll back the clock 25 years what inspired us was um my oldest child what inspired us was um my oldest child what inspired us was um my oldest child contracted Lyme disease and when she got contracted Lyme disease and when she got contracted Lyme disease and when she got sick um I just started to look at the sick um I just started to look at the sick um I just started to look at the way that she was expressing herself and way that she was expressing herself and way that she was expressing herself and she had in my opinion high levels of she had in my opinion high levels of she had in my opinion high levels of toxicity which in my deep research went toxicity which in my deep research went toxicity which in my deep research went to um toxic the relationship between to um toxic the relationship between to um toxic the relationship between toxicity inflammation and symptoms we toxicity inflammation and symptoms we toxicity inflammation and symptoms we surr again we didn't have tele medic T surr again we didn't have tele medic T surr again we didn't have tele medic T tele medicine then and there wasn't tele medicine then and there wasn't tele medicine then and there wasn't virtual doctors like we see in today's virtual doctors like we see in today's virtual doctors like we see in today's world and I'm sure everybody listening
02:00world and I'm sure everybody listening world and I'm sure everybody listening today can appreciate that the modern today can appreciate that the modern today can appreciate that the modern conveniences of having that access to conveniences of having that access to conveniences of having that access to information on the internet as well as information on the internet as well as information on the internet as well as direct information that you can get from direct information that you can get from direct information that you can get from practitioners so we had a very very practitioners so we had a very very practitioners so we had a very very specific purpose and um when I looked at specific purpose and um when I looked at specific purpose and um when I looked at the way my daughter was expressing the way my daughter was expressing the way my daughter was expressing herself I did a deep dive in herself I did a deep dive in herself I did a deep dive in understanding uh about understanding uh about understanding uh about toxicity so not being Lim literate and toxicity so not being Lim literate and toxicity so not being Lim literate and we had a the best lime literate doctor we had a the best lime literate doctor we had a the best lime literate doctor that was working with her what I felt I that was working with her what I felt I that was working with her what I felt I could have value in our relationship was could have value in our relationship was could have value in our relationship was to work on the kinds of Home Solutions to work on the kinds of Home Solutions to work on the kinds of Home Solutions that we could develop that could help my that we could develop that could help my that we could develop that could help my daughter help herself not realizing that daughter help herself not realizing that daughter help herself not realizing that it was really for everyone again 25 it was really for everyone again 25 it was really for everyone again 25 years ago Lyme disease wasn't quite as years ago Lyme disease wasn't quite as years ago Lyme disease wasn't quite as as um announced as it is today as the as um announced as it is today as the as um announced as it is today as the research in in the misunderstanding of research in in the misunderstanding of research in in the misunderstanding of the disease and so we were battling the disease and so we were battling the disease and so we were battling politics we were battling um disin politics we were battling um disin politics we were battling um disin information and um so uh I took it upon
03:00information and um so uh I took it upon information and um so uh I took it upon myself even though the approach we took myself even though the approach we took myself even though the approach we took was an MD allopathic Western medicine was an MD allopathic Western medicine was an MD allopathic Western medicine approach as a family we practiced approach as a family we practiced approach as a family we practiced natural healing and sort of integrated natural healing and sort of integrated natural healing and sort of integrated functional medicine which wasn't the functional medicine which wasn't the functional medicine which wasn't the title back then um but I went to China title back then um but I went to China title back then um but I went to China um I started developing what I um I started developing what I um I started developing what I discovered was that aside from invasive discovered was that aside from invasive discovered was that aside from invasive forms of of um detoxification like forms of of um detoxification like forms of of um detoxification like dialysis dialysis dialysis or taking a um supplement whether it be or taking a um supplement whether it be or taking a um supplement whether it be um natural or pharmaceutical synthetic um natural or pharmaceutical synthetic um natural or pharmaceutical synthetic that could Purge or keate a toxin um I that could Purge or keate a toxin um I that could Purge or keate a toxin um I discovered that there's actually discovered that there's actually discovered that there's actually wavelengths of sun energy that will wavelengths of sun energy that will wavelengths of sun energy that will mobilize all the toxins in your body and mobilize all the toxins in your body and mobilize all the toxins in your body and at that time 25 years ago in the US at that time 25 years ago in the US at that time 25 years ago in the US market um the only Health Care market um the only Health Care market um the only Health Care application for infrared was was by application for infrared was was by application for infrared was was by Sports Medicine doctors working with Sports Medicine doctors working with Sports Medicine doctors working with players that got injured on the field to players that got injured on the field to players that got injured on the field to lower their pain thresholds and to get
04:00lower their pain thresholds and to get lower their pain thresholds and to get their bodies to kick into a accelerated their bodies to kick into a accelerated their bodies to kick into a accelerated healing process so they get back on the healing process so they get back on the healing process so they get back on the field again so pain management was field again so pain management was field again so pain management was important to me and the body the natural important to me and the body the natural important to me and the body the natural healing process was important to me and healing process was important to me and healing process was important to me and then of course my discovery about the then of course my discovery about the then of course my discovery about the the beautiful beautiful features of the beautiful beautiful features of the beautiful beautiful features of healing with sun or biophoton modulation healing with sun or biophoton modulation healing with sun or biophoton modulation sun energy how that affects the body and sun energy how that affects the body and sun energy how that affects the body and stimulating medic systems not just stimulating medic systems not just stimulating medic systems not just detoxification um so I went to China I detoxification um so I went to China I detoxification um so I went to China I spent 2 and a half months there spent 2 and a half months there spent 2 and a half months there practically um interviewing 65 factories practically um interviewing 65 factories practically um interviewing 65 factories starting to develop devices just for starting to develop devices just for starting to develop devices just for home use not realizing basically the the home use not realizing basically the the home use not realizing basically the the big door we were opening up um because big door we were opening up um because big door we were opening up um because what we found was that our daughter what we found was that our daughter what we found was that our daughter responded amazingly well to this the responded amazingly well to this the responded amazingly well to this the effects of sun energy uh on many levels effects of sun energy uh on many levels effects of sun energy uh on many levels not just on the detox and that the not just on the detox and that the not just on the detox and that the doctors that were supporting her who had
05:00doctors that were supporting her who had doctors that were supporting her who had their practices were 100% filled with their practices were 100% filled with their practices were 100% filled with infectious disease patients that had infectious disease patients that had infectious disease patients that had chronic challenges they wanted what we chronic challenges they wanted what we chronic challenges they wanted what we were developing for our own personal use were developing for our own personal use were developing for our own personal use and that was basically the Genesis of and that was basically the Genesis of and that was basically the Genesis of the of our company how we started it the of our company how we started it the of our company how we started it started with a story about her but started with a story about her but started with a story about her but honestly it's a story about helping honestly it's a story about helping honestly it's a story about helping everybody and that's part of our mission everybody and that's part of our mission everybody and that's part of our mission at back then for Theos was to create an at back then for Theos was to create an at back then for Theos was to create an environment where I could develop environment where I could develop environment where I could develop technologies that would help her or I technologies that would help her or I technologies that would help her or I could position myself within the lime could position myself within the lime could position myself within the lime community and all the top researchers in community and all the top researchers in community and all the top researchers in Lime across the globe now um to give me Lime across the globe now um to give me Lime across the globe now um to give me some some some insight uh that I could use to try to insight uh that I could use to try to insight uh that I could use to try to help her help herself so this was sort help her help herself so this was sort help her help herself so this was sort of a pain to purpose or maybe a little of a pain to purpose or maybe a little of a pain to purpose or maybe a little bit self- serving um but that really bit self- serving um but that really bit self- serving um but that really became the platform and what I soon came became the platform and what I soon came became the platform and what I soon came to realize is that the stuff we were to realize is that the stuff we were to realize is that the stuff we were developing weren't just for our daughter developing weren't just for our daughter developing weren't just for our daughter it really was for for everyone and the
06:00it really was for for everyone and the it really was for for everyone and the challenges with toxicity isn't just for challenges with toxicity isn't just for challenges with toxicity isn't just for Lyme disease it's addressing the Lyme disease it's addressing the Lyme disease it's addressing the environment that we're living in today environment that we're living in today environment that we're living in today so fast forward 25 years we've got so fast forward 25 years we've got so fast forward 25 years we've got challenges with air with water with food challenges with air with water with food challenges with air with water with food um and maybe in a sense um a step back um and maybe in a sense um a step back um and maybe in a sense um a step back from the way nature intended us to be from the way nature intended us to be from the way nature intended us to be which is communing with the ground with which is communing with the ground with which is communing with the ground with Earth spending more time in the Sun and Earth spending more time in the Sun and Earth spending more time in the Sun and enjoying all the things that nature has enjoying all the things that nature has enjoying all the things that nature has um has given us as gifts but in modern um has given us as gifts but in modern um has given us as gifts but in modern society we live in controlled home society we live in controlled home society we live in controlled home environments um that prevent us from environments um that prevent us from environments um that prevent us from actually getting the benefits of of actually getting the benefits of of actually getting the benefits of of everything around us it's I've said it everything around us it's I've said it everything around us it's I've said it before in these interviews it's amazing before in these interviews it's amazing before in these interviews it's amazing how many people uh with the yeah how many people uh with the yeah how many people uh with the yeah typically founders of companies but even typically founders of companies but even typically founders of companies but even some researchers who have come at this some researchers who have come at this some researchers who have come at this field uh for personal interest like field uh for personal interest like field uh for personal interest like personal health reasons and then personal health reasons and then personal health reasons and then realized huh this is there's something realized huh this is there's something realized huh this is there's something to this and then you know want to spread
07:00to this and then you know want to spread to this and then you know want to spread it to the World it to the World it to the World um but you you did this well before a um but you you did this well before a um but you you did this well before a lot of the other people I've been lot of the other people I've been lot of the other people I've been talking to um so you mentioned the sun talking to um so you mentioned the sun talking to um so you mentioned the sun you mentioned infrared and I know you've you mentioned infrared and I know you've you mentioned infrared and I know you've also got quite a understanding around also got quite a understanding around also got quite a understanding around red light therapy so what were you when red light therapy so what were you when red light therapy so what were you when you were in China developing these you were in China developing these you were in China developing these products or coming up with some products products or coming up with some products products or coming up with some products what exactly was that back then like 20 what exactly was that back then like 20 what exactly was that back then like 20 odd years ago was it the infrared like odd years ago was it the infrared like odd years ago was it the infrared like SA or was it well actually the first um SA or was it well actually the first um SA or was it well actually the first um invention was on body experiences with invention was on body experiences with invention was on body experiences with what we call Healing pads right okay and what we call Healing pads right okay and what we call Healing pads right okay and we have really two Delivery Systems we we have really two Delivery Systems we we have really two Delivery Systems we have the on body experience where you have the on body experience where you have the on body experience where you can take a a pad that um you can bring can take a a pad that um you can bring can take a a pad that um you can bring the same energies what well so the key the same energies what well so the key the same energies what well so the key was harnessing the full spectrum and of was harnessing the full spectrum and of was harnessing the full spectrum and of sunlight and sun energy and what I did sunlight and sun energy and what I did sunlight and sun energy and what I did as a bio researcher and scientist was I as a bio researcher and scientist was I as a bio researcher and scientist was I actually downloaded NASA publishes all actually downloaded NASA publishes all actually downloaded NASA publishes all of the frequencies that touch the Earth
08:00of the frequencies that touch the Earth of the frequencies that touch the Earth um minute to minute and so I looked at um minute to minute and so I looked at um minute to minute and so I looked at one year of this type of light energy one year of this type of light energy one year of this type of light energy how it affects nature in the planet um how it affects nature in the planet um how it affects nature in the planet um took the first and second standard took the first and second standard took the first and second standard deviation of that number and created a deviation of that number and created a deviation of that number and created a formula a cocktail in a sense of the way formula a cocktail in a sense of the way formula a cocktail in a sense of the way we deliver our full spectrum infrared to we deliver our full spectrum infrared to we deliver our full spectrum infrared to mimic the way nature delivers it so that mimic the way nature delivers it so that mimic the way nature delivers it so that the idea was that again part of the the idea was that again part of the the idea was that again part of the principle is I believe in our modern principle is I believe in our modern principle is I believe in our modern world we even though we have all these world we even though we have all these world we even though we have all these fantastic conveniences Wireless this and fantastic conveniences Wireless this and fantastic conveniences Wireless this and that and Bluetooth and electric cars and that and Bluetooth and electric cars and that and Bluetooth and electric cars and all that great stuff right um we have all that great stuff right um we have all that great stuff right um we have that that on one side on the other side that that on one side on the other side that that on one side on the other side is what I believe just as you know in is what I believe just as you know in is what I believe just as you know in the animal and plant kingdom How Far the animal and plant kingdom How Far the animal and plant kingdom How Far We've departed from the way nature We've departed from the way nature We've departed from the way nature intended us to be so I'm dating back to intended us to be so I'm dating back to intended us to be so I'm dating back to Moses and Jesus and Buddha in those days Moses and Jesus and Buddha in those days Moses and Jesus and Buddha in those days when we lived in caves and Tents and on when we lived in caves and Tents and on when we lived in caves and Tents and on the land and we woke up to the sunrise
09:00the land and we woke up to the sunrise the land and we woke up to the sunrise and we didn't have alarm clocks and we and we didn't have alarm clocks and we and we didn't have alarm clocks and we had bioc clocks that actually had bioc clocks that actually had bioc clocks that actually synchronized with the planet and and uh synchronized with the planet and and uh synchronized with the planet and and uh we don't have as much of that these days we don't have as much of that these days we don't have as much of that these days and I that for me that explains I and I that for me that explains I and I that for me that explains I believe why we have the Rises of these believe why we have the Rises of these believe why we have the Rises of these chronic challenges and um as much money chronic challenges and um as much money chronic challenges and um as much money as we're pouring into as we're pouring into as we're pouring into Healthcare we seem to be still moving Healthcare we seem to be still moving Healthcare we seem to be still moving away from that Primal healing um um away from that Primal healing um um away from that Primal healing um um Essence that I believe we need all of us Essence that I believe we need all of us Essence that I believe we need all of us need in order for us to be you know need in order for us to be you know need in order for us to be you know symptom free and living a u a very full symptom free and living a u a very full symptom free and living a u a very full life um staying out of hospital um so life um staying out of hospital um so life um staying out of hospital um so you know you have a different you know you have a different you know you have a different perspective from where you live and the perspective from where you live and the perspective from where you live and the Western approach to Medicine where we Western approach to Medicine where we Western approach to Medicine where we live yeah and one of the benefits I've live yeah and one of the benefits I've live yeah and one of the benefits I've had because I travel around curating had because I travel around curating had because I travel around curating materials from different parts of the materials from different parts of the materials from different parts of the world um is to see the American Market world um is to see the American Market world um is to see the American Market from outside yeah right and understand from outside yeah right and understand from outside yeah right and understand that we don't necessarily get it right I that we don't necessarily get it right I that we don't necessarily get it right I mean some ways we're mean some ways we're mean some ways we're on top of our game big time um but in a
10:00on top of our game big time um but in a on top of our game big time um but in a lot of ways I feel that um these modern lot of ways I feel that um these modern lot of ways I feel that um these modern conveniences have really taking us out conveniences have really taking us out conveniences have really taking us out of the of the way that our bodies can of the of the way that our bodies can of the of the way that our bodies can function naturally and get the optimal function naturally and get the optimal function naturally and get the optimal experience yeah and it's I know New experience yeah and it's I know New experience yeah and it's I know New Zealand is heavily influenced with the Zealand is heavily influenced with the Zealand is heavily influenced with the American Medical system um not to the American Medical system um not to the American Medical system um not to the same degree but I mean there's obviously same degree but I mean there's obviously same degree but I mean there's obviously a lot of crossover but let's say someone a lot of crossover but let's say someone a lot of crossover but let's say someone comes to to to your company and you know comes to to to your company and you know comes to to to your company and you know they're working in I know Seattle and they're working in I know Seattle and they're working in I know Seattle and they're doing 50 hours a week in an they're doing 50 hours a week in an they're doing 50 hours a week in an office and they know like from a health office and they know like from a health office and they know like from a health point of view it isn't great right but point of view it isn't great right but point of view it isn't great right but you know they got a mortgage they got a you know they got a mortgage they got a you know they got a mortgage they got a family they stuck there for for the time family they stuck there for for the time family they stuck there for for the time being at least how can how can you how being at least how can how can you how being at least how can how can you how can your products how can the products can your products how can the products can your products how can the products that are mimicking sunlight in a way how that are mimicking sunlight in a way how that are mimicking sunlight in a way how can it help how can it be used by an can it help how can it be used by an can it help how can it be used by an individual like that
11:00individual like that individual like that well part we call them the pillars of well part we call them the pillars of well part we call them the pillars of our company and one pillar is to try to our company and one pillar is to try to our company and one pillar is to try to bring nature the things that I've talked bring nature the things that I've talked bring nature the things that I've talked about just briefly um try to try to um about just briefly um try to try to um about just briefly um try to try to um encapsulate those and put them into our encapsulate those and put them into our encapsulate those and put them into our technology to bring that into your home technology to bring that into your home technology to bring that into your home so that as to your point when we have so that as to your point when we have so that as to your point when we have busy Lifestyles um and we have strong busy Lifestyles um and we have strong busy Lifestyles um and we have strong commit ments to our work and to our commit ments to our work and to our commit ments to our work and to our families that we can bring this segment families that we can bring this segment families that we can bring this segment of nature into your home so that you can of nature into your home so that you can of nature into your home so that you can integrate it within within your integrate it within within your integrate it within within your lifestyle um so there's two parts one is lifestyle um so there's two parts one is lifestyle um so there's two parts one is to educate the public which we spend 80% to educate the public which we spend 80% to educate the public which we spend 80% of our time is in research development of our time is in research development of our time is in research development educating um putting out um very uh educating um putting out um very uh educating um putting out um very uh interactive interviews and um like interactive interviews and um like interactive interviews and um like yourself we have a podcast and ways that yourself we have a podcast and ways that yourself we have a podcast and ways that we can not just bring our view you um
12:00we can not just bring our view you um we can not just bring our view you um but also bring great minds in integrated but also bring great minds in integrated but also bring great minds in integrated functional healthare to raise awareness functional healthare to raise awareness functional healthare to raise awareness to the general public for them to to the general public for them to to the general public for them to understand that there are other ways understand that there are other ways understand that there are other ways that maybe the Western ingrained that maybe the Western ingrained that maybe the Western ingrained approach the alpath MD approach maybe approach the alpath MD approach maybe approach the alpath MD approach maybe that isn't the only way and that having that isn't the only way and that having that isn't the only way and that having free choice and given opportunity that free choice and given opportunity that free choice and given opportunity that you can actually make a choice that you can actually make a choice that you can actually make a choice that might be a better choice for you and might be a better choice for you and might be a better choice for you and your family this is without judgment I'm your family this is without judgment I'm your family this is without judgment I'm not there's great parts to all these not there's great parts to all these not there's great parts to all these systems just like if I was to ask you systems just like if I was to ask you systems just like if I was to ask you about your country I have not have about your country I have not have about your country I have not have friends there and we do business in your friends there and we do business in your friends there and we do business in your country but I haven't lived there and so country but I haven't lived there and so country but I haven't lived there and so knowing how beautiful your country is knowing how beautiful your country is knowing how beautiful your country is that um I just feel that every country that um I just feel that every country that um I just feel that every country every city every town has its great every city every town has its great every city every town has its great great stuff if you look for it um so so great stuff if you look for it um so so great stuff if you look for it um so so the an that was an indirect answer um we the an that was an indirect answer um we the an that was an indirect answer um we make devices that are affordable we make make devices that are affordable we make make devices that are affordable we make devices that are portable we make devices that are portable we make devices that are portable we make devices that are easy to use they're
13:00devices that are easy to use they're devices that are easy to use they're very sophisticated but um a fifth grader very sophisticated but um a fifth grader very sophisticated but um a fifth grader it's very plug andplay oriented you can it's very plug andplay oriented you can it's very plug andplay oriented you can plug it in there it's they're very plug it in there it's they're very plug it in there it's they're very intuitive so you don't need a graduate intuitive so you don't need a graduate intuitive so you don't need a graduate degree um all you need to know is that degree um all you need to know is that degree um all you need to know is that you're in pain or you want to detox or you're in pain or you want to detox or you're in pain or you want to detox or you're having challenges with sleep that you're having challenges with sleep that you're having challenges with sleep that we really cover all the broad bases of we really cover all the broad bases of we really cover all the broad bases of what we feel are the main um challenges what we feel are the main um challenges what we feel are the main um challenges that people have in today's that people have in today's that people have in today's world uh you announce what that is and world uh you announce what that is and world uh you announce what that is and then we have a team actually set up our then we have a team actually set up our then we have a team actually set up our website on the top it says uh ask an website on the top it says uh ask an website on the top it says uh ask an expert or um make an appointment with a expert or um make an appointment with a expert or um make an appointment with a health advisor it's free yeah and you health advisor it's free yeah and you health advisor it's free yeah and you just we generally Target that free um just we generally Target that free um just we generally Target that free um Enterprise to the people that are buying Enterprise to the people that are buying Enterprise to the people that are buying a product so that they could get the mo a product so that they could get the mo a product so that they could get the mo the optimal application and get and the optimal application and get and the optimal application and get and reach their goal okay because again as a reach their goal okay because again as a reach their goal okay because again as a company we have a lot of when we go to company we have a lot of when we go to company we have a lot of when we go to medical conferences I speak at podcasts medical conferences I speak at podcasts medical conferences I speak at podcasts and Summits and all that stuff you know and Summits and all that stuff you know and Summits and all that stuff you know and on stage at these medical
14:00and on stage at these medical and on stage at these medical conferences um I feel there are other conferences um I feel there are other conferences um I feel there are other companies that are interested in a companies that are interested in a companies that are interested in a sale um we're interested in knowing that sale um we're interested in knowing that sale um we're interested in knowing that when you purchase something from us that when you purchase something from us that when you purchase something from us that you're getting the product that's you're getting the product that's you're getting the product that's properly paired with what you're trying properly paired with what you're trying properly paired with what you're trying to achieve what your goal is you know to achieve what your goal is you know to achieve what your goal is you know how to how to operate it and we have an how to how to operate it and we have an how to how to operate it and we have an ongoing relationship with all of our ongoing relationship with all of our ongoing relationship with all of our customers and all of our ambassadors and customers and all of our ambassadors and customers and all of our ambassadors and influencers to elevate awareness let influencers to elevate awareness let influencers to elevate awareness let them know about our new devices and the them know about our new devices and the them know about our new devices and the new innovations that we're making and new innovations that we're making and new innovations that we're making and then to properly pair with their then to properly pair with their then to properly pair with their customer base their Community what we're customer base their Community what we're customer base their Community what we're doing and how it can help you hey if doing and how it can help you hey if doing and how it can help you hey if you're enjoying this video make sure to you're enjoying this video make sure to you're enjoying this video make sure to hit the like button leave any questions hit the like button leave any questions hit the like button leave any questions down below and also hit the Subscribe down below and also hit the Subscribe down below and also hit the Subscribe button I do a lot of product reviews a button I do a lot of product reviews a button I do a lot of product reviews a lot of interviews a lot of deep dives lot of interviews a lot of deep dives lot of interviews a lot of deep dives into the world of red light therapy and into the world of red light therapy and into the world of red light therapy and infrared so hit those buttons down below infrared so hit those buttons down below infrared so hit those buttons down below okay so then going back to the uh office okay so then going back to the uh office okay so then going back to the uh office worker in Seattle example let's let's worker in Seattle example let's let's worker in Seattle example let's let's let's play this out let's say I let's
15:00let's play this out let's say I let's let's play this out let's say I let's say I'm him I contact you I'm like my say I'm him I contact you I'm like my say I'm him I contact you I'm like my sleep's horrible you know I'm 40 years sleep's horrible you know I'm 40 years sleep's horrible you know I'm 40 years old bone aches I'm aching in my old bone aches I'm aching in my old bone aches I'm aching in my joints um just getting into this whole joints um just getting into this whole joints um just getting into this whole Alternative Health world you know I've Alternative Health world you know I've Alternative Health world you know I've come from a come from a come from a very traditional no no that's the wrong very traditional no no that's the wrong very traditional no no that's the wrong word a conventional diet you know so I'm word a conventional diet you know so I'm word a conventional diet you know so I'm looking for big change and I want to looking for big change and I want to looking for big change and I want to spend some money um on some products spend some money um on some products spend some money um on some products like how then do you like how then do you like how then do you help solve that uh is it here's a here's help solve that uh is it here's a here's help solve that uh is it here's a here's a light here's a SAA what what's the a light here's a SAA what what's the a light here's a SAA what what's the well well the again we have basically well well the again we have basically well well the again we have basically two Delivery Systems one is an onbody two Delivery Systems one is an onbody two Delivery Systems one is an onbody experience right so if you came to me experience right so if you came to me experience right so if you came to me and you said well I mean let's refine and you said well I mean let's refine and you said well I mean let's refine again the goals or the challenges so if again the goals or the challenges so if again the goals or the challenges so if you're symptomatic and you let's say in you're symptomatic and you let's say in you're symptomatic and you let's say in your lifestyle choices um you have a your lifestyle choices um you have a your lifestyle choices um you have a very rich diet yeah um maybe you're a very rich diet yeah um maybe you're a very rich diet yeah um maybe you're a little bit overweight uh you have little bit overweight uh you have little bit overweight uh you have Sleeping challenges you like your
16:00Sleeping challenges you like your Sleeping challenges you like your alcohol with dinner you know so this is alcohol with dinner you know so this is alcohol with dinner you know so this is a very American thing I don't know what a very American thing I don't know what a very American thing I don't know what it is for your community or not but you it is for your community or not but you it is for your community or not but you guys can are pretty adaptive at guys can are pretty adaptive at guys can are pretty adaptive at translating what we're talking about to translating what we're talking about to translating what we're talking about to your own your own your own circumstances so and also again remember circumstances so and also again remember circumstances so and also again remember overlaying the overarching and again you overlaying the overarching and again you overlaying the overarching and again you know in America we've got big carbon know in America we've got big carbon know in America we've got big carbon footprints in the major footprints in the major footprints in the major cities may you have major cities too but cities may you have major cities too but cities may you have major cities too but you also have a lot of rural areas and you also have a lot of rural areas and you also have a lot of rural areas and you know know where I think it's a you know know where I think it's a you know know where I think it's a little bit more um uh set up for people little bit more um uh set up for people little bit more um uh set up for people to be able to commune with nature than to be able to commune with nature than to be able to commune with nature than maybe than the US unless you go seek it maybe than the US unless you go seek it maybe than the US unless you go seek it I I could be wrong about it but um so uh I I could be wrong about it but um so uh I I could be wrong about it but um so uh I would address uh toxicity is number I would address uh toxicity is number I would address uh toxicity is number one so how you and so there is the organ one so how you and so there is the organ one so how you and so there is the organ toxicity and detoxing that's a very um toxicity and detoxing that's a very um toxicity and detoxing that's a very um spot specific and this is with ridl for spot specific and this is with ridl for spot specific and this is with ridl for rid light yeah yeah so we have on body rid light yeah yeah so we have on body rid light yeah yeah so we have on body experiences that we call Healing pads experiences that we call Healing pads experiences that we call Healing pads yes we have a red light that I developed
17:00yes we have a red light that I developed yes we have a red light that I developed a very unique diode and so for people a very unique diode and so for people a very unique diode and so for people that are listening in um in the LED dist that are listening in um in the LED dist that are listening in um in the LED dist um like distribution um like distribution um like distribution channel uh they're basically it's called channel uh they're basically it's called channel uh they're basically it's called monochromatic and that means that you monochromatic and that means that you monochromatic and that means that you have a single LED that has a single have a single LED that has a single have a single LED that has a single frequency and then most of the other frequency and then most of the other frequency and then most of the other purveyors or um other people in this in purveyors or um other people in this in purveyors or um other people in this in the red lighter infrared frequency they the red lighter infrared frequency they the red lighter infrared frequency they um they have an array different arrays um they have an array different arrays um they have an array different arrays of different frequencies and then they of different frequencies and then they of different frequencies and then they turn on and turn off creating that turn on and turn off creating that turn on and turn off creating that cocktail what I did that was different cocktail what I did that was different cocktail what I did that was different was I curated three of the wavelengths was I curated three of the wavelengths was I curated three of the wavelengths that I feel are the most beneficial one that I feel are the most beneficial one that I feel are the most beneficial one red light and two near infrared yeah and red light and two near infrared yeah and red light and two near infrared yeah and I created One LED that's got three I created One LED that's got three I created One LED that's got three wavelengths in the single LED yeah and wavelengths in the single LED yeah and wavelengths in the single LED yeah and so I can deliver three times the amount so I can deliver three times the amount so I can deliver three times the amount of light energy directly into your skin of light energy directly into your skin of light energy directly into your skin and directly into your cell which is and directly into your cell which is and directly into your cell which is really the endgame in pH biophoton
18:00really the endgame in pH biophoton really the endgame in pH biophoton modulation is how do I get as much light modulation is how do I get as much light modulation is how do I get as much light energy into your cell and that's the energy into your cell and that's the energy into your cell and that's the beauty of the raid and the wavelength beauty of the raid and the wavelength beauty of the raid and the wavelength and we've um we've got rated uh the and we've um we've got rated uh the and we've um we've got rated uh the technical term is emissivity and we have technical term is emissivity and we have technical term is emissivity and we have about a 98.9% emissivity which means about a 98.9% emissivity which means about a 98.9% emissivity which means that almost 100% of our frequencies are that almost 100% of our frequencies are that almost 100% of our frequencies are King into your cell which not that many King into your cell which not that many King into your cell which not that many other competitors can say also our other competitors can say also our other competitors can say also our delivery is on B so we're actually delivery is on B so we're actually delivery is on B so we're actually bringing the light right to your skin bringing the light right to your skin bringing the light right to your skin and most of the other um Technologies and most of the other um Technologies and most of the other um Technologies sit in metal cans they have high levels sit in metal cans they have high levels sit in metal cans they have high levels of electromagnetic fields we have none of electromagnetic fields we have none of electromagnetic fields we have none of those because we shield from that so of those because we shield from that so of those because we shield from that so there's no um like um there's no Contra there's no um like um there's no Contra there's no um like um there's no Contra indicator or um challenge with the body indicator or um challenge with the body indicator or um challenge with the body having to choose to protect itself from having to choose to protect itself from having to choose to protect itself from EMF or EF which is extreme low EMF or EF which is extreme low EMF or EF which is extreme low frequencies and delivering and receiving frequencies and delivering and receiving frequencies and delivering and receiving the beautiful healing frequencies of the beautiful healing frequencies of the beautiful healing frequencies of sunlight those three wavelength are they
19:00sunlight those three wavelength are they sunlight those three wavelength are they publicly known like do you can you publicly known like do you can you publicly known like do you can you reveal them of course there are 663 is reveal them of course there are 663 is reveal them of course there are 663 is what we use in the red light and 840 and what we use in the red light and 840 and what we use in the red light and 840 and 980 right nice Okay cool so we're still 980 right nice Okay cool so we're still 980 right nice Okay cool so we're still in the near infrared Spectrum when for in the near infrared Spectrum when for in the near infrared Spectrum when for people that know the way they're people that know the way they're people that know the way they're organized the red light spectrum is very organized the red light spectrum is very organized the red light spectrum is very close to the near frequencies so there close to the near frequencies so there close to the near frequencies so there are many attributes that that go back are many attributes that that go back are many attributes that that go back and forth between red light and near and and forth between red light and near and and forth between red light and near and that's why it chose those um we improve that's why it chose those um we improve that's why it chose those um we improve the natural production of nitric oxide the natural production of nitric oxide the natural production of nitric oxide um we support mitochondrial deficiencies um we support mitochondrial deficiencies um we support mitochondrial deficiencies so Cell Energy if you got a chronic so Cell Energy if you got a chronic so Cell Energy if you got a chronic Challenge and remember my orientation Challenge and remember my orientation Challenge and remember my orientation was from Lyme disease or chronic ailment was from Lyme disease or chronic ailment was from Lyme disease or chronic ailment so these are people that sometimes so these are people that sometimes so these are people that sometimes they're so sick they can't get out of they're so sick they can't get out of they're so sick they can't get out of bed and so how do we you you pointed out bed and so how do we you you pointed out bed and so how do we you you pointed out the average guy that's overworked and the average guy that's overworked and the average guy that's overworked and stressed out well that might be a major stressed out well that might be a major stressed out well that might be a major part of our population but then there's part of our population but then there's part of our population but then there's also another big part of our population
20:00also another big part of our population also another big part of our population that has um they've contracted you know that has um they've contracted you know that has um they've contracted you know chronic ailments and so I felt if I chronic ailments and so I felt if I chronic ailments and so I felt if I could help someone with a chronic could help someone with a chronic could help someone with a chronic challenge then how about the average guy challenge then how about the average guy challenge then how about the average guy out there you know then we're really out there you know then we're really out there you know then we're really really at something and uh We've we are really at something and uh We've we are really at something and uh We've we are the number one company that's being the number one company that's being the number one company that's being promoted by the Health Care community in promoted by the Health Care community in promoted by the Health Care community in our our our space uh in the US um we do service your space uh in the US um we do service your space uh in the US um we do service your country and 16 other countries outside country and 16 other countries outside country and 16 other countries outside the US so um we are very dedicated both the US so um we are very dedicated both the US so um we are very dedicated both my wife and I we didn't bring in uh my wife and I we didn't bring in uh my wife and I we didn't bring in uh venture capital and all that stuff we venture capital and all that stuff we venture capital and all that stuff we this has just been a a passion and a this has just been a a passion and a this has just been a a passion and a philanthropic um uh company that we've philanthropic um uh company that we've philanthropic um uh company that we've developed and so for us it's people over developed and so for us it's people over developed and so for us it's people over profit very important um and we care so profit very important um and we care so profit very important um and we care so we we we can make sales we can do we we we can make sales we can do we we we can make sales we can do internet campaigns and all that but we internet campaigns and all that but we internet campaigns and all that but we want to know that when you buy a device want to know that when you buy a device want to know that when you buy a device why you're buying it how are you going
21:00why you're buying it how are you going why you're buying it how are you going to use it and how you going to get the to use it and how you going to get the to use it and how you going to get the best result from it to make sure that best result from it to make sure that best result from it to make sure that they're getting they're getting the they're getting they're getting the they're getting they're getting the money's wor right I'm not just buying money's wor right I'm not just buying money's wor right I'm not just buying something and it's say this is rubbish something and it's say this is rubbish something and it's say this is rubbish and you know well there's so much of and you know well there's so much of and you know well there's so much of that out there that's what I mean yeah that out there that's what I mean yeah that out there that's what I mean yeah and I mean it's yeah I was recently at a and I mean it's yeah I was recently at a and I mean it's yeah I was recently at a marketing conference and it's like the marketing conference and it's like the marketing conference and it's like the way that the presenters were talking way that the presenters were talking way that the presenters were talking it's like these are people that you you it's like these are people that you you it's like these are people that you you know it wasn't yeah you know what I mean know it wasn't yeah you know what I mean know it wasn't yeah you know what I mean we won't go down the path um so back to we won't go down the path um so back to we won't go down the path um so back to the red light therap pads the on body the red light therap pads the on body the red light therap pads the on body pads yes so they're very targeted pads yes so they're very targeted pads yes so they're very targeted obviously they're not you're not oh how obviously they're not you're not oh how obviously they're not you're not oh how targeted are they do you have full body targeted are they do you have full body targeted are they do you have full body ones that you can well the one the one ones that you can well the one the one ones that you can well the one the one that I mentioned to you we call it trite that I mentioned to you we call it trite that I mentioned to you we call it trite trite okay and it's actually um a very trite okay and it's actually um a very trite okay and it's actually um a very portable very lightweight pad it's portable very lightweight pad it's portable very lightweight pad it's driven by um a driven by um a driven by um a USB Cube so it can be done like you can USB Cube so it can be done like you can USB Cube so it can be done like you can be completely off the grid with a be completely off the grid with a be completely off the grid with a portable battery or you can just charge portable battery or you can just charge portable battery or you can just charge it up like you do um or use a cube
22:00it up like you do um or use a cube it up like you do um or use a cube charge like you would for your phone charge like you would for your phone charge like you would for your phone okay so that's a very simple system we okay so that's a very simple system we okay so that's a very simple system we take that with us we use it on the plane take that with us we use it on the plane take that with us we use it on the plane we we travel with it it can fit in your we we travel with it it can fit in your we we travel with it it can fit in your napsack it's very lightweight and it's napsack it's very lightweight and it's napsack it's very lightweight and it's very flexible again it's meant to be very flexible again it's meant to be very flexible again it's meant to be right on your body um if you put it on right on your body um if you put it on right on your body um if you put it on your face many women it can produce your face many women it can produce your face many women it can produce natur collagen and so you don't need the natur collagen and so you don't need the natur collagen and so you don't need the fillers Botox all those other kinds of fillers Botox all those other kinds of fillers Botox all those other kinds of other interventions this is using your other interventions this is using your other interventions this is using your body systems and using nature to bring body systems and using nature to bring body systems and using nature to bring back the things that we used to get back the things that we used to get back the things that we used to get naturally we just don't we don't expose naturally we just don't we don't expose naturally we just don't we don't expose ourselves to these wavelengths long ourselves to these wavelengths long ourselves to these wavelengths long enough for it to be effective um we do enough for it to be effective um we do enough for it to be effective um we do have another second generation healing have another second generation healing have another second generation healing pad so I described the what we call the pad so I described the what we call the pad so I described the what we call the trite the other one is called Thea Pro trite the other one is called Thea Pro trite the other one is called Thea Pro and it's actually a sixin one device so and it's actually a sixin one device so and it's actually a sixin one device so we have red light we have full spectrum we have red light we have full spectrum we have red light we have full spectrum infrared we pulse curated um frequencies infrared we pulse curated um frequencies infrared we pulse curated um frequencies pemf right okay okay built in to one pemf right okay okay built in to one pemf right okay okay built in to one yeah it's all in one one pad yeah it's all in one one pad yeah it's all in one one pad so you can it rolls up you can travel
23:00so you can it rolls up you can travel so you can it rolls up you can travel within your overnight bag um it has a within your overnight bag um it has a within your overnight bag um it has a onboard microcurrent um system so like a onboard microcurrent um system so like a onboard microcurrent um system so like a t unit there are five different kinds of t unit there are five different kinds of t unit there are five different kinds of gemstones so we're getting all these gemstones so we're getting all these gemstones so we're getting all these Earth energies sun energy allinone pad Earth energies sun energy allinone pad Earth energies sun energy allinone pad that you can conveniently take with you that you can conveniently take with you that you can conveniently take with you uh you know on the road um we designed uh you know on the road um we designed uh you know on the road um we designed it for the Optimal Health category of it for the Optimal Health category of it for the Optimal Health category of our business which are the premium our business which are the premium our business which are the premium athletes but our vision and our belief athletes but our vision and our belief athletes but our vision and our belief system is that everyone's born an system is that everyone's born an system is that everyone's born an athlete you don't have to be on a wedi athlete you don't have to be on a wedi athlete you don't have to be on a wedi box and swinging a big bat you can be box and swinging a big bat you can be box and swinging a big bat you can be the average guy like you and me you just the average guy like you and me you just the average guy like you and me you just want the best out of your life and you want the best out of your life and you want the best out of your life and you want to live healthy from the first want to live healthy from the first want to live healthy from the first breath to the last so the what was that breath to the last so the what was that breath to the last so the what was that called the the pro they a pro they Pro called the the pro they a pro they Pro called the the pro they a pro they Pro and how large is that well they come in and how large is that well they come in and how large is that well they come in two sizes yeah um one would fit on the two sizes yeah um one would fit on the two sizes yeah um one would fit on the back of a chair like we're sitting on back of a chair like we're sitting on back of a chair like we're sitting on yeah as I do every day I sit on mine yeah as I do every day I sit on mine yeah as I do every day I sit on mine during work and research the other is during work and research the other is during work and research the other is the size of a treatment table so if you the size of a treatment table so if you the size of a treatment table so if you want a full body in clinic or generally
24:00want a full body in clinic or generally want a full body in clinic or generally um some of the more Adult Community they um some of the more Adult Community they um some of the more Adult Community they kind of want that full exposure um both kind of want that full exposure um both kind of want that full exposure um both of them are effective uh and we again of them are effective uh and we again of them are effective uh and we again affordability is an important thing we affordability is an important thing we affordability is an important thing we want to make devices that can go on want to make devices that can go on want to make devices that can go on everyone's household and we also want do everyone's household and we also want do everyone's household and we also want do you have a young family yeah I've got you have a young family yeah I've got you have a young family yeah I've got two little kids okay so we want to show two little kids okay so we want to show two little kids okay so we want to show you our technology and then we want your you our technology and then we want your you our technology and then we want your kids to grow up knowing that an infrared kids to grow up knowing that an infrared kids to grow up knowing that an infrared sauna or a healing pad as we make it it sauna or a healing pad as we make it it sauna or a healing pad as we make it it we love it to be our devices but just we love it to be our devices but just we love it to be our devices but just the concept of having this kind of the concept of having this kind of the concept of having this kind of technology in your daily lifestyle so technology in your daily lifestyle so technology in your daily lifestyle so that they grow up in a household where that they grow up in a household where that they grow up in a household where Sona isn't about you know you have Lyme Sona isn't about you know you have Lyme Sona isn't about you know you have Lyme disease and you have some challenge it's disease and you have some challenge it's disease and you have some challenge it's about just staying healthy and being about just staying healthy and being about just staying healthy and being your optimal version of yourself and so your optimal version of yourself and so your optimal version of yourself and so we're interested in your in educating we're interested in your in educating we're interested in your in educating you but we're really interested in this you but we're really interested in this you but we're really interested in this next Generation that's coming in yeah I next Generation that's coming in yeah I next Generation that's coming in yeah I think my kids will um have no issues think my kids will um have no issues think my kids will um have no issues there where you have three or four saers
25:00there where you have three or four saers there where you have three or four saers at home I probably have 50 or 60 at home I probably have 50 or 60 at home I probably have 50 or 60 different red light thw products so that different red light thw products so that different red light thw products so that yeah that definitely got a lot of yeah that definitely got a lot of yeah that definitely got a lot of exposure to that um the the the pro the exposure to that um the the the pro the exposure to that um the the the pro the full body the Big M yes how in terms of full body the Big M yes how in terms of full body the Big M yes how in terms of usage recommendations like is it daily usage recommendations like is it daily usage recommendations like is it daily is it multiple times a day someone wants is it multiple times a day someone wants is it multiple times a day someone wants to get maximize the the benefits yeah um to get maximize the the benefits yeah um to get maximize the the benefits yeah um I think I mean people tuning in right I think I mean people tuning in right I think I mean people tuning in right now they may think think that once a day now they may think think that once a day now they may think think that once a day is too much that they could commit um is too much that they could commit um is too much that they could commit um the nice part about our Delivery Systems the nice part about our Delivery Systems the nice part about our Delivery Systems is that they're set up pretty easy like is that they're set up pretty easy like is that they're set up pretty easy like mine sits on the back of my chair uh but mine sits on the back of my chair uh but mine sits on the back of my chair uh but even if you were traveling you could even if you were traveling you could even if you were traveling you could easily take it with you uh we get we're easily take it with you uh we get we're easily take it with you uh we get we're living in a toxic world and so when I'm living in a toxic world and so when I'm living in a toxic world and so when I'm asked how often should I do sauna to asked how often should I do sauna to asked how often should I do sauna to detox or use the pad to keep my health I detox or use the pad to keep my health I detox or use the pad to keep my health I put the question back to you do you live put the question back to you do you live put the question back to you do you live in in a world where you just get toxic in in a world where you just get toxic in in a world where you just get toxic on Monday Wednesday and Friday on Monday Wednesday and Friday on Monday Wednesday and Friday and if so tell me where that is because
26:00and if so tell me where that is because and if so tell me where that is because I want to move there right in today's I want to move there right in today's I want to move there right in today's world I think that this this kind of world I think that this this kind of world I think that this this kind of Technology again Back To Nature we've if Technology again Back To Nature we've if Technology again Back To Nature we've if we weren't living in modern apartments we weren't living in modern apartments we weren't living in modern apartments and single pH homes we would be exposed and single pH homes we would be exposed and single pH homes we would be exposed to this every day on a daily basis okay to this every day on a daily basis okay to this every day on a daily basis okay let me read let me ask the question let me read let me ask the question let me read let me ask the question another way then someone gets the Met another way then someone gets the Met another way then someone gets the Met can they sleep on it can they sit on it can they sleep on it can they sit on it can they sleep on it can they sit on it all day or is there a point where you all day or is there a point where you all day or is there a point where you say you can overdo this well what's your say you can overdo this well what's your say you can overdo this well what's your understanding because I know this is a understanding because I know this is a understanding because I know this is a lot of people lot of people lot of people it's a good point it's a good point and it's a good point it's a good point and it's a good point it's a good point and um in the body there's what's called um in the body there's what's called um in the body there's what's called homeostasis which is just sort of an homeostasis which is just sort of an homeostasis which is just sort of an equalization like you absorb enough of equalization like you absorb enough of equalization like you absorb enough of the sunlight and once it fills up all the sunlight and once it fills up all the sunlight and once it fills up all your cells even if you get a little bit your cells even if you get a little bit your cells even if you get a little bit more than you need right at this moment more than you need right at this moment more than you need right at this moment the body releases it and so you can't the body releases it and so you can't the body releases it and so you can't get too much of this infrared frequency get too much of this infrared frequency get too much of this infrared frequency but you can overdo it and let me explain but you can overdo it and let me explain but you can overdo it and let me explain that to you so if you presented yourself that to you so if you presented yourself that to you so if you presented yourself as we have many patients and customers as we have many patients and customers as we have many patients and customers they a little older or even young young
27:00they a little older or even young young they a little older or even young young ones or maybe people with chronic ones or maybe people with chronic ones or maybe people with chronic challenges and they're have a lot of challenges and they're have a lot of challenges and they're have a lot of symptoms um I I wouldn't start you off symptoms um I I wouldn't start you off symptoms um I I wouldn't start you off using the highest temperature for the using the highest temperature for the using the highest temperature for the longest amount of time because as I longest amount of time because as I longest amount of time because as I mentioned earlier even if let's say mentioned earlier even if let's say mentioned earlier even if let's say you're coming to me because you have a you're coming to me because you have a you're coming to me because you have a sleep challenge or you have a a pain sleep challenge or you have a a pain sleep challenge or you have a a pain challenge which we can challenge which we can challenge which we can manage um it also has a detox component manage um it also has a detox component manage um it also has a detox component to it and so even though your complaint to it and so even though your complaint to it and so even though your complaint or your challenge is pain which we can or your challenge is pain which we can or your challenge is pain which we can address we're also going to have your address we're also going to have your address we're also going to have your body detox and so if you're frail and I body detox and so if you're frail and I body detox and so if you're frail and I know that I'm going to put you into a know that I'm going to put you into a know that I'm going to put you into a detox I want to make sure that your detox I want to make sure that your detox I want to make sure that your detox pathways are opened otherwise I detox pathways are opened otherwise I detox pathways are opened otherwise I could make your condition more could make your condition more could make your condition more complicated yeah so that's what I'm complicated yeah so that's what I'm complicated yeah so that's what I'm talking about when I say you can overdo talking about when I say you can overdo talking about when I say you can overdo it yeah and so imagine it's something it yeah and so imagine it's something it yeah and so imagine it's something different I'm I am your swimming coach different I'm I am your swimming coach different I'm I am your swimming coach and you're so you've never swam before and you're so you've never swam before and you're so you've never swam before you're so deely scared of you're so deely scared of you're so deely scared of drowning I wouldn't throw you into the
28:00drowning I wouldn't throw you into the drowning I wouldn't throw you into the deep end of the pool and then run off deep end of the pool and then run off deep end of the pool and then run off and go grab a latte or something I'd and go grab a latte or something I'd and go grab a latte or something I'd probably start you off in the shallow probably start you off in the shallow probably start you off in the shallow end if you were really fearful I may end if you were really fearful I may end if you were really fearful I may just say hey come on just throw your just say hey come on just throw your just say hey come on just throw your foot in the water don't even touch the foot in the water don't even touch the foot in the water don't even touch the bottom get rid of the fear understand bottom get rid of the fear understand bottom get rid of the fear understand the temperature and then slowly over the temperature and then slowly over the temperature and then slowly over time and how that could translate it time and how that could translate it time and how that could translate it could be maybe four or five weeks before could be maybe four or five weeks before could be maybe four or five weeks before we get a a chronic patient in a sauna we get a a chronic patient in a sauna we get a a chronic patient in a sauna for 35 or 40 minutes for 35 or 40 minutes for 35 or 40 minutes but you know in terms of chronic but you know in terms of chronic but you know in terms of chronic challenges it could take 20 years before challenges it could take 20 years before challenges it could take 20 years before you become symptomatic part of the you become symptomatic part of the you become symptomatic part of the discussion even today is that we all discussion even today is that we all discussion even today is that we all expect to take a magic little pill and expect to take a magic little pill and expect to take a magic little pill and then 20 years of being being toxic have then 20 years of being being toxic have then 20 years of being being toxic have that erase in one day and this isn't a a that erase in one day and this isn't a a that erase in one day and this isn't a a fast discussion this is bringing nature fast discussion this is bringing nature fast discussion this is bringing nature into your life reorganizing and creating into your life reorganizing and creating into your life reorganizing and creating that Primal Primal platform and you know that Primal Primal platform and you know that Primal Primal platform and you know muscles cells tissues they all have muscles cells tissues they all have muscles cells tissues they all have memory they want to be um functionally
29:00memory they want to be um functionally memory they want to be um functionally well you know um so we believe from well you know um so we believe from well you know um so we believe from research and stuff that um we basically research and stuff that um we basically research and stuff that um we basically get sick on a cell level and we also get sick on a cell level and we also get sick on a cell level and we also heal on a cell level and so if I can heal on a cell level and so if I can heal on a cell level and so if I can bring sunlight good water using binders bring sunlight good water using binders bring sunlight good water using binders if I can do protocols and stack certain if I can do protocols and stack certain if I can do protocols and stack certain bioh hacks together to create a Synergy bioh hacks together to create a Synergy bioh hacks together to create a Synergy to accelerate um your body's getting to accelerate um your body's getting to accelerate um your body's getting back to health and bringing you back back to health and bringing you back back to health and bringing you back online again that's really where we online again that's really where we online again that's really where we focus in our our daily activities and focus in our our daily activities and focus in our our daily activities and then you mentioned SAA and for it SAA so then you mentioned SAA and for it SAA so then you mentioned SAA and for it SAA so obviously this is a different it's a obviously this is a different it's a obviously this is a different it's a different wavelength of light are you different wavelength of light are you different wavelength of light are you partnering them up the red and them for partnering them up the red and them for partnering them up the red and them for it or do you tell people to do them it or do you tell people to do them it or do you tell people to do them separately um great question and um we separately um great question and um we separately um great question and um we do partner them up uh initially when I do partner them up uh initially when I do partner them up uh initially when I was mentioning earlier about how we our was mentioning earlier about how we our was mentioning earlier about how we our approach was really following nature and approach was really following nature and approach was really following nature and that worked really well for me um until
30:00that worked really well for me um until that worked really well for me um until three years ago so uh I had been three years ago so uh I had been three years ago so uh I had been teaching at a health health a teaching at a health health a teaching at a health health a destination health resort in um Florida destination health resort in um Florida destination health resort in um Florida called hypocrates it's world renown I called hypocrates it's world renown I called hypocrates it's world renown I taught there for 18 years and I sat in taught there for 18 years and I sat in taught there for 18 years and I sat in the in the back of the room that I that the in the back of the room that I that the in the back of the room that I that I designate as my classroom that was I designate as my classroom that was I designate as my classroom that was this full mural of hypocrates and one of this full mural of hypocrates and one of this full mural of hypocrates and one of his sayings is food is your medicine but his sayings is food is your medicine but his sayings is food is your medicine but it started to bother me because the food it started to bother me because the food it started to bother me because the food of hypocrates day is 200 years ago is of hypocrates day is 200 years ago is of hypocrates day is 200 years ago is not the food of today nor is our planet not the food of today nor is our planet not the food of today nor is our planet and so I chose to rework the formula and so I chose to rework the formula and so I chose to rework the formula that nature delivers sunlight to the that nature delivers sunlight to the that nature delivers sunlight to the planet to address today's world and planet to address today's world and planet to address today's world and that's when I developed the trite system that's when I developed the trite system that's when I developed the trite system because I wanted to add more near and because I wanted to add more near and because I wanted to add more near and more red light frequencies into the more red light frequencies into the more red light frequencies into the cocktail of Full Spectrum in our sauna cocktail of Full Spectrum in our sauna cocktail of Full Spectrum in our sauna delivery system which was it's delivery system which was it's delivery system which was it's incredible there's no other uh company incredible there's no other uh company incredible there's no other uh company on the market in the world right now on the market in the world right now on the market in the world right now that is doing what doing uh in terms of that is doing what doing uh in terms of that is doing what doing uh in terms of our portable sauna and that trite that I
31:00our portable sauna and that trite that I our portable sauna and that trite that I developed for the sauna became so developed for the sauna became so developed for the sauna became so popular that we actually broke it out popular that we actually broke it out popular that we actually broke it out and make it we have it as a standalone and make it we have it as a standalone and make it we have it as a standalone now so the trite it's okay to use an oh now so the trite it's okay to use an oh now so the trite it's okay to use an oh high heat sauner environment it was high heat sauner environment it was high heat sauner environment it was designed we developed that way are there designed we developed that way are there designed we developed that way are there issues then with using the red light are issues then with using the red light are issues then with using the red light are you using it directly on the skin that's you using it directly on the skin that's you using it directly on the skin that's correct okay so what about if you're correct okay so what about if you're correct okay so what about if you're sweating like are the issues there with sweating like are the issues there with sweating like are the issues there with light scattering or absorption issues no light scattering or absorption issues no light scattering or absorption issues no not at all it's actually just the not at all it's actually just the not at all it's actually just the opposite because once your skin gets um opposite because once your skin gets um opposite because once your skin gets um gets hydrated from gets hydrated from gets hydrated from sweat uh then it actually becomes a sweat uh then it actually becomes a sweat uh then it actually becomes a accentuated um organ in a sense to accentuated um organ in a sense to accentuated um organ in a sense to Breathe In and Out other bring in other Breathe In and Out other bring in other Breathe In and Out other bring in other stacks and stacks and stacks and modalities um as well as it helps um modalities um as well as it helps um modalities um as well as it helps um receive the uh the beautiful frequencies receive the uh the beautiful frequencies receive the uh the beautiful frequencies so I'm sure you know in your own so I'm sure you know in your own so I'm sure you know in your own research that the infrared spectrum research that the infrared spectrum research that the infrared spectrum harmonizes that W wavelength harmonizes that W wavelength harmonizes that W wavelength actually harmonize or they vibrate at
32:00actually harmonize or they vibrate at actually harmonize or they vibrate at the same frequency as the water inside the same frequency as the water inside the same frequency as the water inside your body the nid yeah R red and near your body the nid yeah R red and near your body the nid yeah R red and near and this was proven scientifically by um and this was proven scientifically by um and this was proven scientifically by um Dr Gerald poock who wrote a book called Dr Gerald poock who wrote a book called Dr Gerald poock who wrote a book called the fourth phas of water and so what he the fourth phas of water and so what he the fourth phas of water and so what he was talking about was how sunlight will was talking about was how sunlight will was talking about was how sunlight will restructure water yeah but essentially restructure water yeah but essentially restructure water yeah but essentially why they what what really excites me why they what what really excites me why they what what really excites me about um biophoton modulation about um biophoton modulation about um biophoton modulation particularly the area of red light and particularly the area of red light and particularly the area of red light and full spectrum infrared is that we have full spectrum infrared is that we have full spectrum infrared is that we have anatomically a layer of fat just under anatomically a layer of fat just under anatomically a layer of fat just under our our skin that protects our insides from skin that protects our insides from skin that protects our insides from extreme heat and cold and so when you extreme heat and cold and so when you extreme heat and cold and so when you compare like a hot rock sauna dry heat compare like a hot rock sauna dry heat compare like a hot rock sauna dry heat or a steam room that's convection heat or a steam room that's convection heat or a steam room that's convection heat heating up the ambient air touching your heating up the ambient air touching your heating up the ambient air touching your skin yes you're going to sweat and pull skin yes you're going to sweat and pull skin yes you're going to sweat and pull out toxins but when they did a study out toxins but when they did a study out toxins but when they did a study they measure a drop of sweat in the same they measure a drop of sweat in the same they measure a drop of sweat in the same individual in a hot rock sa a steam room individual in a hot rock sa a steam room individual in a hot rock sa a steam room and infrared there were 85% more toxins
33:00and infrared there were 85% more toxins and infrared there were 85% more toxins in the infrared drop of sweat because in the infrared drop of sweat because in the infrared drop of sweat because that sunlight comes right through that that sunlight comes right through that that sunlight comes right through that insulating layer and goes right into insulating layer and goes right into insulating layer and goes right into your cell and enables that cell to your cell and enables that cell to your cell and enables that cell to methylate and get rid of these poisons methylate and get rid of these poisons methylate and get rid of these poisons which in today's world because of foods which in today's world because of foods which in today's world because of foods the choices we make lifestyle things the choices we make lifestyle things the choices we make lifestyle things like that lack of connection to the like that lack of connection to the like that lack of connection to the planet I think we're missing a lot of it planet I think we're missing a lot of it planet I think we're missing a lot of it uh and so we've seen a big research in uh and so we've seen a big research in uh and so we've seen a big research in the way that people respond to it it's the way that people respond to it it's the way that people respond to it it's incredible like I don't know any other incredible like I don't know any other incredible like I don't know any other technology on the planet that could technology on the planet that could technology on the planet that could bring about a physiological change as bring about a physiological change as bring about a physiological change as quickly as sunlight and the next to that quickly as sunlight and the next to that quickly as sunlight and the next to that is we did develop just recently a cold is we did develop just recently a cold is we did develop just recently a cold plunge immersion tank really yeah yeah plunge immersion tank really yeah yeah plunge immersion tank really yeah yeah so we're working on the contrast therapy so we're working on the contrast therapy so we're working on the contrast therapy and so here you can be in a plunge for and so here you can be in a plunge for and so here you can be in a plunge for for three minutes boom you're changing for three minutes boom you're changing for three minutes boom you're changing your physiology you can be in sauna for your physiology you can be in sauna for your physiology you can be in sauna for 20 minutes or 30 minutes and change your 20 minutes or 30 minutes and change your 20 minutes or 30 minutes and change your physiology this it's remarkable and it's physiology this it's remarkable and it's physiology this it's remarkable and it's it's sitting right in front of us so
34:00it's sitting right in front of us so it's sitting right in front of us so it's great to talk to you about this be it's great to talk to you about this be it's great to talk to you about this be and your community because this is such and your community because this is such and your community because this is such a important topic for people to know a important topic for people to know a important topic for people to know that it doesn't you know like certainly that it doesn't you know like certainly that it doesn't you know like certainly we've made Modern conveniences with our we've made Modern conveniences with our we've made Modern conveniences with our delivery system but this is free you can delivery system but this is free you can delivery system but this is free you can go outside if you were in the Sun at the go outside if you were in the Sun at the go outside if you were in the Sun at the right time of day you could get right time of day you could get right time of day you could get everything that we're talking about and everything that we're talking about and everything that we're talking about and doesn't cost very much yeah that's it doesn't cost very much yeah that's it doesn't cost very much yeah that's it it's just that you know back in New it's just that you know back in New it's just that you know back in New Zealand right now we we don't get the Zealand right now we we don't get the Zealand right now we we don't get the Sun for months Sun for months Sun for months so that's where those devices do come in so that's where those devices do come in so that's where those devices do come in you know it allows you to live that uh you know it allows you to live that uh you know it allows you to live that uh Modern Life and still be semi resemblant Modern Life and still be semi resemblant Modern Life and still be semi resemblant of uh older times but um where can of uh older times but um where can of uh older times but um where can people learn I you know what you have a people learn I you know what you have a people learn I you know what you have a lot of products on your website we've lot of products on your website we've lot of products on your website we've just touched on U would you say this was just touched on U would you say this was just touched on U would you say this was the the core of the business yeah pretty the the core of the business yeah pretty the the core of the business yeah pretty much the light produ it started it much the light produ it started it much the light produ it started it started with the on body experience and started with the on body experience and started with the on body experience and then the next event was creating the
35:00then the next event was creating the then the next event was creating the sauna and actually we the first uh stab sauna and actually we the first uh stab sauna and actually we the first uh stab at that was the traditional wooden sauna at that was the traditional wooden sauna at that was the traditional wooden sauna right okay um but when we made the right okay um but when we made the right okay um but when we made the wooden sauna because I come as a device wooden sauna because I come as a device wooden sauna because I come as a device developer not I we have intentions and developer not I we have intentions and developer not I we have intentions and everything we make but we're very active everything we make but we're very active everything we make but we're very active listeners and I kind of leave my ego listeners and I kind of leave my ego listeners and I kind of leave my ego outside it's not about me it's about you outside it's not about me it's about you outside it's not about me it's about you the people that are checking in today the people that are checking in today the people that are checking in today and when we made the wooden sauna what I and when we made the wooden sauna what I and when we made the wooden sauna what I heard from the US market was um I'm sick heard from the US market was um I'm sick heard from the US market was um I'm sick I need a I need a I need a um but I live in on on Park Avenue in um but I live in on on Park Avenue in um but I live in on on Park Avenue in New York my apartment is 700 ft I need New York my apartment is 700 ft I need New York my apartment is 700 ft I need the sauna but I can't I have no the sauna but I can't I have no the sauna but I can't I have no space uh so I need to develop something space uh so I need to develop something space uh so I need to develop something in my head that was space saving then in my head that was space saving then in my head that was space saving then the other thing I heard was I live in the other thing I heard was I live in the other thing I heard was I live in Minnesota I've got a big house but I I I Minnesota I've got a big house but I I I Minnesota I've got a big house but I I I can't afford like A4 or $5,000 can't afford like A4 or $5,000 can't afford like A4 or $5,000 investment in a wooden sauna so I needed investment in a wooden sauna so I needed investment in a wooden sauna so I needed to come up with a design that was space- to come up with a design that was space- to come up with a design that was space- saving and was economical and that was saving and was economical and that was saving and was economical and that was sort of the Genesis behind the portable sort of the Genesis behind the portable sort of the Genesis behind the portable format yeah so where can people go to
36:00format yeah so where can people go to format yeah so where can people go to find out more about these products find out more about these products find out more about these products you've talked about already but also all you've talked about already but also all you've talked about already but also all of the other products you have and maybe of the other products you have and maybe of the other products you have and maybe we'll have to do a part two because we'll have to do a part two because we'll have to do a part two because there is a lot to cover there I mean I there is a lot to cover there I mean I there is a lot to cover there I mean I was I was looking at your website was I was looking at your website was I was looking at your website earlier and I thought wow I could ask earlier and I thought wow I could ask earlier and I thought wow I could ask about this and that and this but I about this and that and this but I about this and that and this but I thought no stay on topic Alex so um yeah thought no stay on topic Alex so um yeah thought no stay on topic Alex so um yeah where can people go okay so it's easy um where can people go okay so it's easy um where can people go okay so it's easy um best place is the.com it's spelled t h e best place is the.com it's spelled t h e best place is the.com it's spelled t h e r a s a g EC r a s a g EC r a s a g EC we have a global 800 number toll-free we have a global 800 number toll-free we have a global 800 number toll-free which isle 8416 which isle 8416 which isle 8416 4441 yeah um you can you can email info 4441 yeah um you can you can email info 4441 yeah um you can you can email info the.com we have a very active Instagram the.com we have a very active Instagram the.com we have a very active Instagram um which is Theos infrared so I that's um which is Theos infrared so I that's um which is Theos infrared so I that's one of my favorite things in the morning one of my favorite things in the morning one of my favorite things in the morning I for look at that because the people I for look at that because the people I for look at that because the people that post their joy out of the using of that post their joy out of the using of that post their joy out of the using of all of our devices is just makes me all of our devices is just makes me all of our devices is just makes me validated that what we're doing is validated that what we're doing is validated that what we're doing is really right and we're really serving
37:00really right and we're really serving really right and we're really serving all of all of you guys out there and all all of all of you guys out there and all all of all of you guys out there and all the other we have um more than 22 the other we have um more than 22 the other we have um more than 22 products on the market now and all of products on the market now and all of products on the market now and all of them center around the core of this them center around the core of this them center around the core of this infrared and what it does but the other infrared and what it does but the other infrared and what it does but the other things like um aroma therapy and ozone things like um aroma therapy and ozone things like um aroma therapy and ozone therapy and um reflexology and guided therapy and um reflexology and guided therapy and um reflexology and guided meditation they all feed into General meditation they all feed into General meditation they all feed into General Health and well-being and our idea is if Health and well-being and our idea is if Health and well-being and our idea is if I have you in my sauna for a half hour I have you in my sauna for a half hour I have you in my sauna for a half hour what what other interventions can I what what other interventions can I what what other interventions can I bring in that are really going to dial bring in that are really going to dial bring in that are really going to dial up your experience and again you just up your experience and again you just up your experience and again you just layer them in you do this at your own layer them in you do this at your own layer them in you do this at your own time at your own expense when you can time at your own expense when you can time at your own expense when you can afford things with a general goal in afford things with a general goal in afford things with a general goal in mind that we are in charge of our health mind that we are in charge of our health mind that we are in charge of our health care and you can do this and it doesn't care and you can do this and it doesn't care and you can do this and it doesn't have to it doesn't cost an arm and a leg have to it doesn't cost an arm and a leg have to it doesn't cost an arm and a leg and it isn't a really big time and it isn't a really big time and it isn't a really big time commitment you just have to choose to commitment you just have to choose to commitment you just have to choose to make a a small lifestyle adjustment ease make a a small lifestyle adjustment ease make a a small lifestyle adjustment ease into it feel the benefit of it and just into it feel the benefit of it and just into it feel the benefit of it and just like we have that negative spin we can
38:00like we have that negative spin we can like we have that negative spin we can really create a positive spin in terms really create a positive spin in terms really create a positive spin in terms of your health and well-being and the of your health and well-being and the of your health and well-being and the message that you give to your kids and message that you give to your kids and message that you give to your kids and your family very good amazing um quite a your family very good amazing um quite a your family very good amazing um quite a journey you've had over the years and journey you've had over the years and journey you've had over the years and you've yeah you've put out some you've yeah you've put out some you've yeah you've put out some interesting products and I'm going to interesting products and I'm going to interesting products and I'm going to have to explore some of these other ones have to explore some of these other ones have to explore some of these other ones as well so thank you so much for the as well so thank you so much for the as well so thank you so much for the time it was a pleasure talking to you time it was a pleasure talking to you time it was a pleasure talking to you and I'll put all the links down below and I'll put all the links down below and I'll put all the links down below and yeah if anyone has questions leave and yeah if anyone has questions leave and yeah if anyone has questions leave them below or Reach Out directly to the them below or Reach Out directly to the them below or Reach Out directly to the Theos customer customer support team I Theos customer customer support team I Theos customer customer support team I mean do you get in there as well and mean do you get in there as well and mean do you get in there as well and answer some totally we're a Hands-On answer some totally we're a Hands-On answer some totally we're a Hands-On company uh we have a crew that um has uh company uh we have a crew that um has uh company uh we have a crew that um has uh that I've developed that's a healthcare that I've developed that's a healthcare that I've developed that's a healthcare team uh this month we're launching a team uh this month we're launching a team uh this month we're launching a integrated functional um uh learning integrated functional um uh learning integrated functional um uh learning platform that we're calling the Optimal platform that we're calling the Optimal platform that we're calling the Optimal Health right where people can join it's Health right where people can join it's Health right where people can join it's got a community uh they can also uh do a got a community uh they can also uh do a got a community uh they can also uh do a platform where they can learn about the platform where they can learn about the platform where they can learn about the fundamentals of healing in healthcare no
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