The Healing Power of Contrast Therapy: Embracing Sauna Culture for Longevity - Full Transcript

00:00hey I'm here with Gloria Nash of hey I'm here with Gloria Nash of Homestead saunas we're actually hanging Homestead saunas we're actually hanging Homestead saunas we're actually hanging out in the sauna to do this interview out in the sauna to do this interview out in the sauna to do this interview which I'm so excited last day of which I'm so excited last day of which I'm so excited last day of February in Sharon Wisconsin mhm so February in Sharon Wisconsin mhm so February in Sharon Wisconsin mhm so Gloria welcome I'm so happy that you're Gloria welcome I'm so happy that you're Gloria welcome I'm so happy that you're here thanks for coming out here and for here thanks for coming out here and for here thanks for coming out here and for doing this in the sauna I know this is a doing this in the sauna I know this is a doing this in the sauna I know this is a great place to do interviews oh we're great place to do interviews oh we're great place to do interviews oh we're going to get kind of steamy while we going to get kind of steamy while we going to get kind of steamy while we talk up some stuff about saunas but talk up some stuff about saunas but talk up some stuff about saunas but it'll be great we wish you guys were it'll be great we wish you guys were it'll be great we wish you guys were here so why don't you tell everybody here so why don't you tell everybody here so why don't you tell everybody about Homestead saas Gloria's been in about Homestead saas Gloria's been in about Homestead saas Gloria's been in Wellness for over two decades or almost Wellness for over two decades or almost Wellness for over two decades or almost two decades right your whole life two decades right your whole life two decades right your whole life basically yeah it's been a a good good basically yeah it's been a a good good basically yeah it's been a a good good moment moment moment um I really got into health and wellness um I really got into health and wellness um I really got into health and wellness as a teenager actually as a teenager actually as a teenager actually I began researching just the differences I began researching just the differences I began researching just the differences between um bio-engineered food and between um bio-engineered food and between um bio-engineered food and organic food it was an independent study

01:00organic food it was an independent study organic food it was an independent study that I did my senior year in high school that I did my senior year in high school that I did my senior year in high school um and that that Journey really just um and that that Journey really just um and that that Journey really just kind of opened my eyes to food kind of opened my eyes to food kind of opened my eyes to food and like big agriculture in general and and like big agriculture in general and and like big agriculture in general and like how our food system works um and like how our food system works um and like how our food system works um and subsequently like all the different subsequently like all the different subsequently like all the different things that are connected with that yeah things that are connected with that yeah things that are connected with that yeah yeah and and there's so much behind that yeah and and there's so much behind that yeah and and there's so much behind that that's a whole another episode for us to that's a whole another episode for us to that's a whole another episode for us to explore as well but so you have always explore as well but so you have always explore as well but so you have always been in Wellness when did your interest been in Wellness when did your interest been in Wellness when did your interest in N SAA come about and how did you fall in N SAA come about and how did you fall in N SAA come about and how did you fall into that so I have always loved saunas into that so I have always loved saunas into that so I have always loved saunas um I traveled quite a bit as a young um I traveled quite a bit as a young um I traveled quite a bit as a young child with my dad visiting all different child with my dad visiting all different child with my dad visiting all different places we would Camp a lot um but places we would Camp a lot um but places we would Camp a lot um but sometimes we'd be in a hotel and there sometimes we'd be in a hotel and there sometimes we'd be in a hotel and there would be a sauna and it was usually just would be a sauna and it was usually just would be a sauna and it was usually just electric um sometimes they were steam electric um sometimes they were steam electric um sometimes they were steam based but I loved them I just was always

02:00based but I loved them I just was always based but I loved them I just was always drawn to them I loved them um and when drawn to them I loved them um and when drawn to them I loved them um and when we moved to Illinois I discovered King we moved to Illinois I discovered King we moved to Illinois I discovered King Spa which is a Korean bath house um in Spa which is a Korean bath house um in Spa which is a Korean bath house um in Niles M and I would go there once a Niles M and I would go there once a Niles M and I would go there once a month just for my own self-care I would month just for my own self-care I would month just for my own self-care I would go and I would spend the whole day and I go and I would spend the whole day and I go and I would spend the whole day and I would leave completely refreshed and a would leave completely refreshed and a would leave completely refreshed and a brand new person mhm let's back up tell brand new person mhm let's back up tell brand new person mhm let's back up tell the listeners about King spot like what the listeners about King spot like what the listeners about King spot like what encompasses yeah so King Spa um it is a encompasses yeah so King Spa um it is a encompasses yeah so King Spa um it is a Korean bath house so when you walk in Korean bath house so when you walk in Korean bath house so when you walk in you feel like you've just entered a you feel like you've just entered a you feel like you've just entered a whole different world there's all these whole different world there's all these whole different world there's all these different rooms that have different different rooms that have different different rooms that have different healing properties most of them are warm healing properties most of them are warm healing properties most of them are warm there's one cold room um but there was a there's one cold room um but there was a there's one cold room um but there was a very very hot room at Kings spa and that very very hot room at Kings spa and that very very hot room at Kings spa and that was my favorite um I would go in there I was my favorite um I would go in there I was my favorite um I would go in there I would try to go in there at least three would try to go in there at least three would try to go in there at least three times because the heat like the

03:00times because the heat like the times because the heat like the penetration of that heat just did penetration of that heat just did penetration of that heat just did something completely tangible to my body something completely tangible to my body something completely tangible to my body um that left it feeling completely um that left it feeling completely um that left it feeling completely different and renewed yeah and now you different and renewed yeah and now you different and renewed yeah and now you know specifically what that is right all know specifically what that is right all know specifically what that is right all the benefits and the things that the benefits and the things that the benefits and the things that actually actually actually happen yeah I mean I think that happen yeah I mean I think that happen yeah I mean I think that on a scientific level there's a lot of on a scientific level there's a lot of on a scientific level there's a lot of research that's being done research that's being done research that's being done um on heat and like thermal culture in um on heat and like thermal culture in um on heat and like thermal culture in general thermal contrast of the extremes general thermal contrast of the extremes general thermal contrast of the extremes of hot and cold um I think there's a lot of hot and cold um I think there's a lot of hot and cold um I think there's a lot of untangle benefits as well that aren't of untangle benefits as well that aren't of untangle benefits as well that aren't necessarily able to be articulated or necessarily able to be articulated or necessarily able to be articulated or described um in a way other than like described um in a way other than like described um in a way other than like the emotional benefits that they offer the emotional benefits that they offer the emotional benefits that they offer as well but there is very tangible as well but there is very tangible as well but there is very tangible research that shows you know so so let's

04:00research that shows you know so so let's research that shows you know so so let's get into some of those sometimes people get into some of those sometimes people get into some of those sometimes people think oh you know they've never been in think oh you know they've never been in think oh you know they've never been in a sauna or they've never done contrast a sauna or they've never done contrast a sauna or they've never done contrast therapy and just to Define contr therapy therapy and just to Define contr therapy therapy and just to Define contr therapy I don't know if you want to Define it or I don't know if you want to Define it or I don't know if you want to Define it or you want me to Define it but I think you want me to Define it but I think you want me to Define it but I think you're the expert so well I don't know you're the expert so well I don't know you're the expert so well I don't know if I'm an expert but um I would say like if I'm an expert but um I would say like if I'm an expert but um I would say like contrast therapy in general is just when contrast therapy in general is just when contrast therapy in general is just when you're going from an extreme to an you're going from an extreme to an you're going from an extreme to an extreme so in the sense of bath culture extreme so in the sense of bath culture extreme so in the sense of bath culture like it's going to be going from a hot like it's going to be going from a hot like it's going to be going from a hot SAA into either cold snow or cold water SAA into either cold snow or cold water SAA into either cold snow or cold water um and that is getting a lot of traction um and that is getting a lot of traction um and that is getting a lot of traction right now just you know on the internet right now just you know on the internet right now just you know on the internet and it's huge it's just huge like we see and it's huge it's just huge like we see and it's huge it's just huge like we see it so much so you're like on The Cutting it so much so you're like on The Cutting it so much so you're like on The Cutting Edge or the reemergence of this yeah Edge or the reemergence of this yeah Edge or the reemergence of this yeah it's it's interesting it's it's interesting it's it's interesting to see that emergence happen um because to see that emergence happen um because to see that emergence happen um because that wasn't necessarily why we built that wasn't necessarily why we built that wasn't necessarily why we built this right just happened kind of at the

05:00this right just happened kind of at the this right just happened kind of at the same time that all of uh the hype was same time that all of uh the hype was same time that all of uh the hype was building up around it um but again it building up around it um but again it building up around it um but again it really just stemmed from like my own really just stemmed from like my own really just stemmed from like my own love of what it did to me and my body um love of what it did to me and my body um love of what it did to me and my body um but thermal culture and thermal contrast but thermal culture and thermal contrast but thermal culture and thermal contrast like there are a lot of uh benefits that like there are a lot of uh benefits that like there are a lot of uh benefits that can come from that variation so when can come from that variation so when can come from that variation so when you're going from the hot and you go you're going from the hot and you go you're going from the hot and you go into the cold it's going to increase the into the cold it's going to increase the into the cold it's going to increase the human growth hormone in the body and human growth hormone in the body and human growth hormone in the body and that's like one of the biggest benefits that's like one of the biggest benefits that's like one of the biggest benefits in my mind um because that hormone is in my mind um because that hormone is in my mind um because that hormone is responsible for so many different things responsible for so many different things responsible for so many different things in our body it's responsible for in our body it's responsible for in our body it's responsible for collagen production um our immune system collagen production um our immune system collagen production um our immune system um and again just bringing it back to um and again just bringing it back to um and again just bringing it back to that mental and emotional aspect of that mental and emotional aspect of that mental and emotional aspect of reminding yourself that you can do hard reminding yourself that you can do hard reminding yourself that you can do hard things and that you can do challenging things and that you can do challenging things and that you can do challenging things so yeah yeah no that's so good so things so yeah yeah no that's so good so things so yeah yeah no that's so good so all of those great things it does for all of those great things it does for all of those great things it does for the body are there any contraindications

06:00the body are there any contraindications the body are there any contraindications like where people shouldn't be doing like where people shouldn't be doing like where people shouldn't be doing sauna and cold plunge yeah there are sauna and cold plunge yeah there are sauna and cold plunge yeah there are it's always in general good to check it's always in general good to check it's always in general good to check with your health care provider if you with your health care provider if you with your health care provider if you have any concerns um that you would want have any concerns um that you would want have any concerns um that you would want to just be aware of before you immerse to just be aware of before you immerse to just be aware of before you immerse yourself into thermal therapy um having yourself into thermal therapy um having yourself into thermal therapy um having high blood pressure can be a contra high blood pressure can be a contra high blood pressure can be a contra indication but at the same time going indication but at the same time going indication but at the same time going into a sauna is actually EX extremely into a sauna is actually EX extremely into a sauna is actually EX extremely beneficial for reducing the risk of beneficial for reducing the risk of beneficial for reducing the risk of blood pressure so it's something that blood pressure so it's something that blood pressure so it's something that you want to take on an individual basis you want to take on an individual basis you want to take on an individual basis just knowing your own body checking with just knowing your own body checking with just knowing your own body checking with your provider um and seeing how you feel your provider um and seeing how you feel your provider um and seeing how you feel when you when and if you come yeah um when you when and if you come yeah um when you when and if you come yeah um heart conditions can be another one as heart conditions can be another one as heart conditions can be another one as well so if you have any kind of well so if you have any kind of well so if you have any kind of pre-existing heart condition it's not so pre-existing heart condition it's not so pre-existing heart condition it's not so good to necessarily come into the sauna good to necessarily come into the sauna good to necessarily come into the sauna and and especially do those extremes

07:00and and especially do those extremes and and especially do those extremes from the hot to the cold okay um but from the hot to the cold okay um but from the hot to the cold okay um but again if you don't have that as a again if you don't have that as a again if you don't have that as a pre-existing condition it's incredibly pre-existing condition it's incredibly pre-existing condition it's incredibly beneficial it is a beneficial it is a beneficial it is a preventative so preventing heart disease preventative so preventing heart disease preventative so preventing heart disease preventing cardiovascular risk um yeah preventing cardiovascular risk um yeah preventing cardiovascular risk um yeah it's it's sort of like a a strength it's it's sort of like a a strength it's it's sort of like a a strength training workout even though you're not training workout even though you're not training workout even though you're not physically lifting weights or running physically lifting weights or running physically lifting weights or running you are challenging the cardiovascular you are challenging the cardiovascular you are challenging the cardiovascular system by doing both of the you are system by doing both of the you are system by doing both of the you are heating up the system and then cooling heating up the system and then cooling heating up the system and then cooling it off right yeah I can't remember the it off right yeah I can't remember the it off right yeah I can't remember the exact statistics on this but there's exact statistics on this but there's exact statistics on this but there's been a lot of research done on how just been a lot of research done on how just been a lot of research done on how just a 20 minute sauna session is like the a 20 minute sauna session is like the a 20 minute sauna session is like the exact same as doing a 20 minute you know exact same as doing a 20 minute you know exact same as doing a 20 minute you know cardiovascular workout yeah I bet yeah cardiovascular workout yeah I bet yeah cardiovascular workout yeah I bet yeah and just like the transformation that and just like the transformation that and just like the transformation that occurs just mentally and emotionally I occurs just mentally and emotionally I occurs just mentally and emotionally I mean I feel like a brand new person mean I feel like a brand new person mean I feel like a brand new person after I'm done with the therapies that after I'm done with the therapies that after I'm done with the therapies that you offer so let's go into before we get you offer so let's go into before we get you offer so let's go into before we get into all the great things that you do in

08:00into all the great things that you do in into all the great things that you do in the the the sauna let's get into just the background sauna let's get into just the background sauna let's get into just the background of the history I mean this type of of the history I mean this type of of the history I mean this type of therapy has been going on for thousands therapy has been going on for thousands therapy has been going on for thousands of years right we had Roman bass I mean of years right we had Roman bass I mean of years right we had Roman bass I mean even in like Ancient Egyptian even in like Ancient Egyptian even in like Ancient Egyptian Hieroglyphics they have pictures of Hieroglyphics they have pictures of Hieroglyphics they have pictures of people doing this type of um plunging people doing this type of um plunging people doing this type of um plunging and heating their bodies um so this has and heating their bodies um so this has and heating their bodies um so this has been going on for a long been going on for a long been going on for a long time can you give a little overview or time can you give a little overview or time can you give a little overview or maybe want to get into like why the maybe want to get into like why the maybe want to get into like why the reemergence has happened reemergence has happened reemergence has happened well I would say that bath culture and well I would say that bath culture and well I would say that bath culture and utilizing heat especially with heat fire utilizing heat especially with heat fire utilizing heat especially with heat fire like the elemental nature of Asana um it like the elemental nature of Asana um it like the elemental nature of Asana um it spans all different cultures like you spans all different cultures like you spans all different cultures like you can find it in all different parts of can find it in all different parts of can find it in all different parts of the world from all different cultures the world from all different cultures the world from all different cultures all different backgrounds there is this all different backgrounds there is this all different backgrounds there is this common theme of utilizing heat and fire common theme of utilizing heat and fire common theme of utilizing heat and fire um and water this Elemental nature

09:00um and water this Elemental nature um and water this Elemental nature ceremonial almost yeah yeah very much so ceremonial almost yeah yeah very much so ceremonial almost yeah yeah very much so um to bring about transformation yes and um to bring about transformation yes and um to bring about transformation yes and I think there's a reemergence of these I think there's a reemergence of these I think there's a reemergence of these practices here in America I don't know practices here in America I don't know practices here in America I don't know that they were ever really lost that they were ever really lost that they were ever really lost in places but America is discovering in places but America is discovering in places but America is discovering them um it's like another fan like right them um it's like another fan like right them um it's like another fan like right oh yeah let's go blow it up as big as we oh yeah let's go blow it up as big as we oh yeah let's go blow it up as big as we can right when the other cultures have can right when the other cultures have can right when the other cultures have always done it you know it's always been always done it you know it's always been always done it you know it's always been slow and steady part of their regimen slow and steady part of their regimen slow and steady part of their regimen that now we get a hang of it and we're that now we get a hang of it and we're that now we get a hang of it and we're like let's just do it to the extreme like let's just do it to the extreme like let's just do it to the extreme right yeah so there is a little bit of right yeah so there is a little bit of right yeah so there is a little bit of that that I've noticed within America's that that I've noticed within America's that that I've noticed within America's bath culture um is kind of there's bath culture um is kind of there's bath culture um is kind of there's actually kind of a a common term within actually kind of a a common term within actually kind of a a common term within like sauna culture it's called the sauna like sauna culture it's called the sauna like sauna culture it's called the sauna bro um and that's like the guy who's bro um and that's like the guy who's bro um and that's like the guy who's going just like hardcore hottest of the going just like hardcore hottest of the going just like hardcore hottest of the hot the coldest of the cold and like hot the coldest of the cold and like hot the coldest of the cold and like just creating this real extreme

10:00just creating this real extreme just creating this real extreme biohacking um Persona biohacking um Persona biohacking um Persona um and that's fine but that also like um and that's fine but that also like um and that's fine but that also like you miss such a big piece of what the you miss such a big piece of what the you miss such a big piece of what the transformational process can be if transformational process can be if transformational process can be if you're just doing it for physical um you're just doing it for physical um you're just doing it for physical um yeah for physical or for this like yeah for physical or for this like yeah for physical or for this like onedimensional onedimensional onedimensional reason mhm and so go a little deeper reason mhm and so go a little deeper reason mhm and so go a little deeper here cuz I mean I'm interested and here cuz I mean I'm interested and here cuz I mean I'm interested and Beyond the the Bro the sauna bro if Beyond the the Bro the sauna bro if Beyond the the Bro the sauna bro if you're going through these processes you're going through these processes you're going through these processes like say you're doing you have weekly like say you're doing you have weekly like say you're doing you have weekly Community or bi-weekly Community sauna Community or bi-weekly Community sauna Community or bi-weekly Community sauna right M what are some of the things then right M what are some of the things then right M what are some of the things then that people are achieving or they're that people are achieving or they're that people are achieving or they're using sauna in place of I remember us using sauna in place of I remember us using sauna in place of I remember us having a conversation about how great it having a conversation about how great it having a conversation about how great it was to use this community sauna time in was to use this community sauna time in was to use this community sauna time in place of say going to the bar to drink place of say going to the bar to drink place of say going to the bar to drink after work that really caught me I after work that really caught me I after work that really caught me I thought what a what a great concept to thought what a what a great concept to thought what a what a great concept to encourage people to community you know encourage people to community you know encourage people to community you know to create a community around something to create a community around something to create a community around something that's Health oriented obviously there's

11:00that's Health oriented obviously there's that's Health oriented obviously there's Sports and things but this is unique Sports and things but this is unique Sports and things but this is unique where they can feel sort of like that where they can feel sort of like that where they can feel sort of like that sauna Buzz yes yeah so um well Homestead sauna Buzz yes yeah so um well Homestead sauna Buzz yes yeah so um well Homestead saunas is an alcohol-free space and saunas is an alcohol-free space and saunas is an alcohol-free space and moving to Wisconsin we realized that moving to Wisconsin we realized that moving to Wisconsin we realized that drinking culture was so just integrated drinking culture was so just integrated drinking culture was so just integrated into every part of community yeah um out into every part of community yeah um out into every part of community yeah um out here and and I don't drink um so we here and and I don't drink um so we here and and I don't drink um so we wanted to create a space that still wanted to create a space that still wanted to create a space that still would offer a community setting um where would offer a community setting um where would offer a community setting um where you would be sober you'd have a space you would be sober you'd have a space you would be sober you'd have a space for authentic connection um and just be for authentic connection um and just be for authentic connection um and just be able to really kind of like drop down able to really kind of like drop down able to really kind of like drop down with your people I feel like the stories with your people I feel like the stories with your people I feel like the stories that are shared in this space it just that are shared in this space it just that are shared in this space it just allows for you to share on a deeper more allows for you to share on a deeper more allows for you to share on a deeper more vulnerable level um and because of that vulnerable level um and because of that vulnerable level um and because of that vulnerability you create these heart vulnerability you create these heart vulnerability you create these heart connections that are otherwise sometimes connections that are otherwise sometimes connections that are otherwise sometimes harder to create and so I would like to harder to create and so I would like to harder to create and so I would like to say that that is really why the

12:00say that that is really why the say that that is really why the emergence of you know bath culture is emergence of you know bath culture is emergence of you know bath culture is happening is because I think people are happening is because I think people are happening is because I think people are Desiring that sense of community and a Desiring that sense of community and a Desiring that sense of community and a place to connect yeah and it's like you place to connect yeah and it's like you place to connect yeah and it's like you said it's um like sauna therapy right said it's um like sauna therapy right said it's um like sauna therapy right it's like instead of going to the bar to it's like instead of going to the bar to it's like instead of going to the bar to talk to your bartender about all your talk to your bartender about all your talk to your bartender about all your problems you can eliminate you know the problems you can eliminate you know the problems you can eliminate you know the toxin of alcohol and go and do something toxin of alcohol and go and do something toxin of alcohol and go and do something and be with friends and develop your son and be with friends and develop your son and be with friends and develop your son of R therapy um I think it's it's hugely of R therapy um I think it's it's hugely of R therapy um I think it's it's hugely transformational and encouraging for transformational and encouraging for transformational and encouraging for just the younger Generations too that just the younger Generations too that just the younger Generations too that you know we can commune around these you know we can commune around these you know we can commune around these Health oriented activities in nature Health oriented activities in nature Health oriented activities in nature getting people out in nature now we getting people out in nature now we getting people out in nature now we can't flip the screen right now but can't flip the screen right now but can't flip the screen right now but we're looking at a we're looking at a we're looking at a beautiful uh nature escape and it's just beautiful uh nature escape and it's just beautiful uh nature escape and it's just that whole five sense experience where that whole five sense experience where that whole five sense experience where if you step out the sauna you're going if you step out the sauna you're going if you step out the sauna you're going to hear the birds you might even hear to hear the birds you might even hear to hear the birds you might even hear the birds chirping and they're curing

13:00the birds chirping and they're curing the birds chirping and they're curing hopefully they this is I can hear them hopefully they this is I can hear them hopefully they this is I can hear them yeah yeah so we'll hear the birds we yeah yeah so we'll hear the birds we yeah yeah so we'll hear the birds we feel the wind um and you know you've got feel the wind um and you know you've got feel the wind um and you know you've got the cold the water element and you know the cold the water element and you know the cold the water element and you know you're hearing things and you're you're hearing things and you're you're hearing things and you're smelling the wonderful smells you want smelling the wonderful smells you want smelling the wonderful smells you want to talk about some of the things that to talk about some of the things that to talk about some of the things that people can experience within the sauna people can experience within the sauna people can experience within the sauna as far as like the smells that we've got as far as like the smells that we've got as far as like the smells that we've got um her herbs her herb broom you might um her herbs her herb broom you might um her herbs her herb broom you might want to give me a little overview on and want to give me a little overview on and want to give me a little overview on and some of these great things well this is some of these great things well this is some of these great things well this is dry right now but this is um and she's a dry right now but this is um and she's a dry right now but this is um and she's a little she's a little worn down at this little she's a little worn down at this little she's a little worn down at this point but um this is a vinck uh so point but um this is a vinck uh so point but um this is a vinck uh so that's the Ukrainian and Russian term that's the Ukrainian and Russian term that's the Ukrainian and Russian term for a Botanical sauna broom um they're for a Botanical sauna broom um they're for a Botanical sauna broom um they're called Vitas in Finland but there's a called Vitas in Finland but there's a called Vitas in Finland but there's a lot of different ways um that different lot of different ways um that different lot of different ways um that different cultures will utilize some kind of a cultures will utilize some kind of a cultures will utilize some kind of a Botanical Botanical Botanical broom yeah um and when it's soaked in broom yeah um and when it's soaked in broom yeah um and when it's soaked in hot water the leaves will become renewed

14:00hot water the leaves will become renewed hot water the leaves will become renewed refreshed soft um and it does create a refreshed soft um and it does create a refreshed soft um and it does create a very aromatic Aroma inside the sauna and very aromatic Aroma inside the sauna and very aromatic Aroma inside the sauna and you can utilize the broom in a lot of you can utilize the broom in a lot of you can utilize the broom in a lot of different ways but um moving the steam different ways but um moving the steam different ways but um moving the steam creating more humidity you can utilize creating more humidity you can utilize creating more humidity you can utilize it on the body for increased circulation it on the body for increased circulation it on the body for increased circulation different plants have different different plants have different different plants have different properties that are going to help for properties that are going to help for properties that are going to help for different things um so you're actually different things um so you're actually different things um so you're actually getting them the vibration of the plants getting them the vibration of the plants getting them the vibration of the plants that you're using within the SAA I would that you're using within the SAA I would that you're using within the SAA I would definitely say that each plant has like definitely say that each plant has like definitely say that each plant has like its own you know Ally properties that it its own you know Ally properties that it its own you know Ally properties that it offers to being in the sauna with you offers to being in the sauna with you offers to being in the sauna with you for sure what are some key um plants for sure what are some key um plants for sure what are some key um plants that you use in the so Birch is probably that you use in the so Birch is probably that you use in the so Birch is probably one of the most common ones that we use one of the most common ones that we use one of the most common ones that we use here um Oak is another very common uh here um Oak is another very common uh here um Oak is another very common uh Brom that's utilized it's a little more Brom that's utilized it's a little more Brom that's utilized it's a little more masculine we tend to create a space for masculine we tend to create a space for masculine we tend to create a space for a lot of women so we end up having more

15:00a lot of women so we end up having more a lot of women so we end up having more women dominated Botanicals um but Oak is women dominated Botanicals um but Oak is women dominated Botanicals um but Oak is very commonly used if you go to like the very commonly used if you go to like the very commonly used if you go to like the Russian bath houses in Chicago they're Russian bath houses in Chicago they're Russian bath houses in Chicago they're going to use a lot of Oak um we also going to use a lot of Oak um we also going to use a lot of Oak um we also love Lyon L love Lyon um and we have love Lyon L love Lyon um and we have love Lyon L love Lyon um and we have Lyon in our tea in our infusion today so Lyon in our tea in our infusion today so Lyon in our tea in our infusion today so yeah um but yeah there's so many yeah um but yeah there's so many yeah um but yeah there's so many different ways that you can integrate different ways that you can integrate different ways that you can integrate Botanicals in the sauna and I think for Botanicals in the sauna and I think for Botanicals in the sauna and I think for me having a background in herbalism this me having a background in herbalism this me having a background in herbalism this feels like it feels like it feels like it brings all of brings all of brings all of Myer together I love it and and you do Myer together I love it and and you do Myer together I love it and and you do so we'll get into the some of the so we'll get into the some of the so we'll get into the some of the therapies that you do in here um in a therapies that you do in here um in a therapies that you do in here um in a bit but I want to just talk about your bit but I want to just talk about your bit but I want to just talk about your um you have this special Affinity to um you have this special Affinity to um you have this special Affinity to helping women with like women issues or helping women with like women issues or helping women with like women issues or helping them with the cyclical like helping them with the cyclical like helping them with the cyclical like connecting them with nature and you know connecting them with nature and you know connecting them with nature and you know the moon phase and just the season so do

16:00the moon phase and just the season so do the moon phase and just the season so do you want to talk about the benefits of you want to talk about the benefits of you want to talk about the benefits of sauna therapy for specifically women sauna therapy for specifically women sauna therapy for specifically women yeah I think that sauna is going to yeah I think that sauna is going to yeah I think that sauna is going to benefit everyone um I'm OB I'm a woman benefit everyone um I'm OB I'm a woman benefit everyone um I'm OB I'm a woman so I feel very strongly connected to so I feel very strongly connected to so I feel very strongly connected to like sharing this practice with women as like sharing this practice with women as like sharing this practice with women as well um women tend to be constantly in well um women tend to be constantly in well um women tend to be constantly in service of those around them and so the service of those around them and so the service of those around them and so the sauna kind of is this container it's sauna kind of is this container it's sauna kind of is this container it's almost like the this womb space that almost like the this womb space that almost like the this womb space that women can enter and then come out women can enter and then come out women can enter and then come out reemerged um renewed rejuvenated reemerged um renewed rejuvenated reemerged um renewed rejuvenated refreshed and so to give them that time refreshed and so to give them that time refreshed and so to give them that time for their own self-care they're then for their own self-care they're then for their own self-care they're then able to like go out into the world go able to like go out into the world go able to like go out into the world go back to their families go back to their back to their families go back to their back to their families go back to their job and have this sense yeah this sense job and have this sense yeah this sense job and have this sense yeah this sense of renewal renewal oh go that they can of renewal renewal oh go that they can of renewal renewal oh go that they can bring and yeah it just it will help you bring and yeah it just it will help you

17:00bring and yeah it just it will help you be a better version of yourself for sure be a better version of yourself for sure be a better version of yourself for sure I noticed that it's like this whole new I noticed that it's like this whole new I noticed that it's like this whole new being that I become once I come up here being that I become once I come up here being that I become once I come up here in nature in the sauna have you do some in nature in the sauna have you do some in nature in the sauna have you do some of your therapies that are just so of your therapies that are just so of your therapies that are just so magical it's like better than any magical it's like better than any magical it's like better than any vitamin or let's not use the p word vitamin or let's not use the p word vitamin or let's not use the p word pharmaceutical it's way better than pharmaceutical it's way better than pharmaceutical it's way better than anything that you could ever find um in anything that you could ever find um in anything that you could ever find um in a in a drugstore right and I think when a in a drugstore right and I think when a in a drugstore right and I think when people real iiz that they can tap into people real iiz that they can tap into people real iiz that they can tap into their internal their internal their internal healing chemicals like it stimulates healing chemicals like it stimulates healing chemicals like it stimulates your endorphins your serotonin all of your endorphins your serotonin all of your endorphins your serotonin all of those great immune building chemicals those great immune building chemicals those great immune building chemicals that we release when we're in here right that we release when we're in here right that we release when we're in here right yeah yeah and so much of what we're yeah yeah and so much of what we're yeah yeah and so much of what we're doing here is we're really just creating doing here is we're really just creating doing here is we're really just creating a space and we're allowing you to come a space and we're allowing you to come a space and we're allowing you to come back to homeostasis I believe very back to homeostasis I believe very back to homeostasis I believe very strongly that the body is Seeking a way strongly that the body is Seeking a way strongly that the body is Seeking a way to come back into balance we just have to come back into balance we just have to come back into balance we just have to kind of create this foundational

18:00to kind of create this foundational to kind of create this foundational space to allow that to happen and so space to allow that to happen and so space to allow that to happen and so there's nothing that I have to do we there's nothing that I have to do we there's nothing that I have to do we just have to let nature do its thing let just have to let nature do its thing let just have to let nature do its thing let the sauna be this container um using the the sauna be this container um using the the sauna be this container um using the elements of water and fire and the elements of water and fire and the elements of water and fire and the plants it's just amazing and it's so plants it's just amazing and it's so plants it's just amazing and it's so simple it's and so let's I want to have simple it's and so let's I want to have simple it's and so let's I want to have you explain if you could there's sweat you explain if you could there's sweat you explain if you could there's sweat lodges can it it's sweat lodge lodges can it it's sweat lodge lodges can it it's sweat lodge ceremonies are popular in you know ceremonies are popular in you know ceremonies are popular in you know Native American ceremonies many Native American ceremonies many Native American ceremonies many ceremonies even South American ceremonies even South American ceremonies even South American ceremonies ceremonies around the world ceremonies ceremonies around the world ceremonies ceremonies around the world that's heat right and and and can you that's heat right and and and can you that's heat right and and and can you explain sometimes people have a question explain sometimes people have a question explain sometimes people have a question of what goes on in the sauna like you of what goes on in the sauna like you of what goes on in the sauna like you know there's all of these misconceptions know there's all of these misconceptions know there's all of these misconceptions that happen and even because even if if that happen and even because even if if that happen and even because even if if they are misunderstanding the actual they are misunderstanding the actual they are misunderstanding the actual therapy but is there any relation to therapy but is there any relation to therapy but is there any relation to sweat lodge and sauna therapy but sweat lodge and sauna therapy but sweat lodge and sauna therapy but besides just the heat yes okay good I

19:00besides just the heat yes okay good I besides just the heat yes okay good I want you to really shed your light again want you to really shed your light again want you to really shed your light again I would say like a sweat lodge in the I would say like a sweat lodge in the I would say like a sweat lodge in the most common sense of the term I think we most common sense of the term I think we most common sense of the term I think we correlate that to you know indigenous correlate that to you know indigenous correlate that to you know indigenous cultures here in the Americas that's cultures here in the Americas that's cultures here in the Americas that's very common for indigenous people to very common for indigenous people to very common for indigenous people to practice um still sweat lodge I've been practice um still sweat lodge I've been practice um still sweat lodge I've been invited into sweat lodges myself also um invited into sweat lodges myself also um invited into sweat lodges myself also um so I have some reference point on like so I have some reference point on like so I have some reference point on like the variations but also the similarities the variations but also the similarities the variations but also the similarities and I think and I think and I think again in a sweat lodge there are again in a sweat lodge there are again in a sweat lodge there are Elemental aspects that you're calling on Elemental aspects that you're calling on Elemental aspects that you're calling on there's directions that you're pulling there's directions that you're pulling there's directions that you're pulling in from ancestors in from ancestors in from ancestors um it's kind of um it's kind of um it's kind of like working with the field okay um and like working with the field okay um and like working with the field okay um and the field I'm using as a term for the the field I'm using as a term for the the field I'm using as a term for the field and the energy and the space all

20:00field and the energy and the space all field and the energy and the space all around you and so even within assana around you and so even within assana around you and so even within assana which is different than a sweat lodge which is different than a sweat lodge which is different than a sweat lodge yes there's still yes there's still yes there's still this if you're doing it with intention this if you're doing it with intention this if you're doing it with intention you're aware of the field around you you're aware of the field around you you're aware of the field around you you're aware of the elements around you you're aware of the elements around you you're aware of the elements around you you're honoring those elements around you're honoring those elements around you're honoring those elements around you and you are utilizing you know very you and you are utilizing you know very you and you are utilizing you know very raw elements to create this process of raw elements to create this process of raw elements to create this process of transformation and I think again like transformation and I think again like transformation and I think again like transformation is kind of that transformation is kind of that transformation is kind of that underlying yeah um aspect of both right underlying yeah um aspect of both right underlying yeah um aspect of both right the transformation and what are some of the transformation and what are some of the transformation and what are some of the things that people experience after the things that people experience after the things that people experience after that can that can that can be I don't want to use the be I don't want to use the be I don't want to use the word even say scary but like if there's some is there some reactions that can be some is there some reactions that can be maybe questionable after after you're in maybe questionable after after you're in maybe questionable after after you're in the sauna for a long time because

21:00the sauna for a long time because the sauna for a long time because sometimes people be like well I'm scared sometimes people be like well I'm scared sometimes people be like well I'm scared I don't want to do it or I'm afraid I don't want to do it or I'm afraid I don't want to do it or I'm afraid physically but also I think people are physically but also I think people are physically but also I think people are sometimes afraid of contrast therapy or sometimes afraid of contrast therapy or sometimes afraid of contrast therapy or just saunas in general because of those just saunas in general because of those just saunas in general because of those After Effects yeah or side effects after After Effects yeah or side effects after After Effects yeah or side effects after effects whatever you want to call so I effects whatever you want to call so I effects whatever you want to call so I would say would say would say that there is a lot that there is a lot that there is a lot of high of high of high sensorial experiences that will happen sensorial experiences that will happen sensorial experiences that will happen as you know whether you're doing a as you know whether you're doing a as you know whether you're doing a ritual session or not um you're sweating ritual session or not um you're sweating ritual session or not um you're sweating you're hot there can be things that come you're hot there can be things that come you're hot there can be things that come up mentally and physically um you can up mentally and physically um you can up mentally and physically um you can feel dizzy if you stay you know past feel dizzy if you stay you know past feel dizzy if you stay you know past your your body's you know your your body's you know your your body's you know threshold um so for us here we really threshold um so for us here we really threshold um so for us here we really encourage people to listen to their own encourage people to listen to their own encourage people to listen to their own body because not every person has the body because not every person has the body because not every person has the same threshold same threshold same threshold and part of what I really desire to

22:00and part of what I really desire to and part of what I really desire to create and cultivate within this space create and cultivate within this space create and cultivate within this space is for people to create this internal is for people to create this internal is for people to create this internal wisdom to know and listen to their body wisdom to know and listen to their body wisdom to know and listen to their body yeah and that's the key for anything yeah and that's the key for anything yeah and that's the key for anything that people do is to listen to the body that people do is to listen to the body that people do is to listen to the body because the body never lies but because the body never lies but because the body never lies but sometimes we get so disconnected from sometimes we get so disconnected from sometimes we get so disconnected from even listening to our own bodies that even listening to our own bodies that even listening to our own bodies that it's one of those modernday it's one of those modernday it's one of those modernday um habits that we are so outside of um habits that we are so outside of um habits that we are so outside of ourselves that again this is something ourselves that again this is something ourselves that again this is something so great because it brings us back into so great because it brings us back into so great because it brings us back into ourselves because how can you deny that ourselves because how can you deny that ourselves because how can you deny that you're feeling hot and dizzy like no you you're feeling hot and dizzy like no you you're feeling hot and dizzy like no you have to listen to your body right right have to listen to your body right right have to listen to your body right right so waking that up having the the opp so waking that up having the the opp so waking that up having the the opp opportunity I guess really just you can opportunity I guess really just you can opportunity I guess really just you can leave you can go put your feet directly leave you can go put your feet directly leave you can go put your feet directly on the ground like it's not concrete on the ground like it's not concrete on the ground like it's not concrete like go right now stick your feet in the like go right now stick your feet in the like go right now stick your feet in the mud yeah or on the grass we in the snow mud yeah or on the grass we in the snow mud yeah or on the grass we in the snow mhm and feeling your feet reconnect to

23:00mhm and feeling your feet reconnect to mhm and feeling your feet reconnect to the Earth you know there's all these new the Earth you know there's all these new the Earth you know there's all these new terms earthing and um yeah like Forest terms earthing and um yeah like Forest terms earthing and um yeah like Forest bathing there's all these new terms but bathing there's all these new terms but bathing there's all these new terms but these are just things that we are neatly these are just things that we are neatly these are just things that we are neatly drawn to we are just removed from them drawn to we are just removed from them drawn to we are just removed from them because of how culture functions right because of how culture functions right because of how culture functions right now I know but they are a part of us and now I know but they are a part of us and now I know but they are a part of us and so having your feet on the ground is so having your feet on the ground is so having your feet on the ground is going to help bring you back into to going to help bring you back into to going to help bring you back into to yourself in a way that nothing else yourself in a way that nothing else yourself in a way that nothing else really can yeah that was so beautifully really can yeah that was so beautifully really can yeah that was so beautifully said I love that yeah just if everybody said I love that yeah just if everybody said I love that yeah just if everybody could just take some vitamin E but not could just take some vitamin E but not could just take some vitamin E but not vitamin E as we know it but vitamin vitamin E as we know it but vitamin vitamin E as we know it but vitamin Earth every day yeah that would be Earth every day yeah that would be Earth every day yeah that would be awesome because it's true like we don't awesome because it's true like we don't awesome because it's true like we don't get outside enough um even trying to get get outside enough um even trying to get get outside enough um even trying to get the children outside you know away from the children outside you know away from the children outside you know away from devices so this is really good this is devices so this is really good this is devices so this is really good this is um I hope a trend that just doesn't blow um I hope a trend that just doesn't blow um I hope a trend that just doesn't blow up as like this fat in America but that up as like this fat in America but that up as like this fat in America but that stays with the culture you know yeah I I

24:00stays with the culture you know yeah I I stays with the culture you know yeah I I feel confident that you feel confident that you feel confident that you know with the right intention and know with the right intention and know with the right intention and integrity like you can keep these integrity like you can keep these integrity like you can keep these practices and specifically that like practices and specifically that like practices and specifically that like nature connection can still remain like nature connection can still remain like nature connection can still remain like a strong threshold within that this a strong threshold within that this a strong threshold within that this practice Yeah and bringing in nature so practice Yeah and bringing in nature so practice Yeah and bringing in nature so now Gloria does some therapies within now Gloria does some therapies within now Gloria does some therapies within the sauna which I've experienced are the sauna which I've experienced are the sauna which I've experienced are amazing one one being the Ukrainian bath amazing one one being the Ukrainian bath amazing one one being the Ukrainian bath ritual and then what are some of the ritual and then what are some of the ritual and then what are some of the others that you do in the sauna yeah so others that you do in the sauna yeah so others that you do in the sauna yeah so we have a few um few tools that can be we have a few um few tools that can be we have a few um few tools that can be utilized in the sauna they're wooden utilized in the sauna they're wooden utilized in the sauna they're wooden massage tools yeah you can get you you massage tools yeah you can get you you massage tools yeah you can get you you can yeah why don't you access them so can yeah why don't you access them so can yeah why don't you access them so you can show cuz I'll grab a few of them you can show cuz I'll grab a few of them you can show cuz I'll grab a few of them let's see see so are good like this um I'll show you so are good like this um I'll show you so are good like this um I'll show you kind of just like on your arm this is

25:00kind of just like on your arm this is kind of just like on your arm this is not one that you would use on your arm not one that you would use on your arm not one that you would use on your arm but yeah just so you can kind of get a but yeah just so you can kind of get a but yeah just so you can kind of get a sense um this one is actually really sense um this one is actually really sense um this one is actually really wonderful for like thicker larger parts wonderful for like thicker larger parts wonderful for like thicker larger parts of your body like the back or the belly of your body like the back or the belly of your body like the back or the belly or um thigh more like the thighs and the or um thigh more like the thighs and the or um thigh more like the thighs and the glutes yeah so this one is really glutes yeah so this one is really glutes yeah so this one is really wonderful for like meteor parts of the wonderful for like meteor parts of the wonderful for like meteor parts of the body um but it helps break up uh some body um but it helps break up uh some body um but it helps break up uh some like stuck lymph I would say M and the like stuck lymph I would say M and the like stuck lymph I would say M and the element of heat like being able to element of heat like being able to element of heat like being able to utilize these tools in the sauna with utilize these tools in the sauna with utilize these tools in the sauna with the heat with the steam um has been the heat with the steam um has been the heat with the steam um has been absolutely amazing we have a absolutely amazing we have a absolutely amazing we have a practitioner here who is well trained on practitioner here who is well trained on practitioner here who is well trained on these tools specifically she's also an these tools specifically she's also an these tools specifically she's also an arvic practitioner oh fantastic yeah and arvic practitioner oh fantastic yeah and arvic practitioner oh fantastic yeah and so she offers um like the abanga hot oil so she offers um like the abanga hot oil so she offers um like the abanga hot oil massage okay and H it's just she's such massage okay and H it's just she's such massage okay and H it's just she's such a gem to have here that's amazing I a gem to have here that's amazing I a gem to have here that's amazing I can't wait to try her too yeah so um

26:00can't wait to try her too yeah so um can't wait to try her too yeah so um Ally is wonderful she's just absolutely Ally is wonderful she's just absolutely Ally is wonderful she's just absolutely a joy to have here working in the sauna a joy to have here working in the sauna a joy to have here working in the sauna and in our treatment room so this is and in our treatment room so this is and in our treatment room so this is this is heated up so if you're doing a this is heated up so if you're doing a this is heated up so if you're doing a therapy in here you're experiencing the therapy in here you're experiencing the therapy in here you're experiencing the heat of the sauna but then what happens heat of the sauna but then what happens heat of the sauna but then what happens if you get too hot during this do you if you get too hot during this do you if you get too hot during this do you get to contrast we break it up and these get to contrast we break it up and these get to contrast we break it up and these sessions we have they're shorter just in sessions we have they're shorter just in sessions we have they're shorter just in nature um the longest time frame for nature um the longest time frame for nature um the longest time frame for that is 45 minutes okay um but because that is 45 minutes okay um but because that is 45 minutes okay um but because you're laying down on the lower bench you're laying down on the lower bench you're laying down on the lower bench it's more likely that the practitioner it's more likely that the practitioner it's more likely that the practitioner is going to need a break to step out um is going to need a break to step out um is going to need a break to step out um more so than the person who's receiving more so than the person who's receiving more so than the person who's receiving because they're working yeah they're because they're working yeah they're because they're working yeah they're working and also the sauna is not heated working and also the sauna is not heated working and also the sauna is not heated to like its hottest temperatures we keep to like its hottest temperatures we keep to like its hottest temperatures we keep it more at like 60 C which is around it more at like 60 C which is around it more at like 60 C which is around 140° oh um which that's low that's 140° oh um which that's low that's 140° oh um which that's low that's actually a lower temperature tell us actually a lower temperature tell us actually a lower temperature tell us about how high it gets during s therapy

27:00about how high it gets during s therapy about how high it gets during s therapy um we like to keep it usually between 70 um we like to keep it usually between 70 um we like to keep it usually between 70 and 80 is kind of which correlates to I and 80 is kind of which correlates to I and 80 is kind of which correlates to I think around like think around like think around like 170 or so degrees um wow that's steamy 170 or so degrees um wow that's steamy 170 or so degrees um wow that's steamy that's hot yeah okay yeah so and again that's hot yeah okay yeah so and again that's hot yeah okay yeah so and again you know top bench is going to be quite you know top bench is going to be quite you know top bench is going to be quite a bit hotter there's about a 30° a bit hotter there's about a 30° a bit hotter there's about a 30° difference variation between the top difference variation between the top difference variation between the top bench and the low bench and that was bench and the low bench and that was bench and the low bench and that was really important for us to make sure really important for us to make sure really important for us to make sure that we had two different bench Heights that we had two different bench Heights that we had two different bench Heights for people so that they could fluctuate for people so that they could fluctuate for people so that they could fluctuate between the top and the lower and then between the top and the lower and then between the top and the lower and then even on the ground yes right so then you even on the ground yes right so then you even on the ground yes right so then you have the ground level um okay so when we have the ground level um okay so when we have the ground level um okay so when we get into Ukrainian bath that is the get into Ukrainian bath that is the get into Ukrainian bath that is the ultimate 5 cents experience why don't ultimate 5 cents experience why don't ultimate 5 cents experience why don't you give a little overview of the you give a little overview of the you give a little overview of the Ukrainian bath Ukrainian bath Ukrainian bath therapy yeah so I will try to articulate therapy yeah so I will try to articulate therapy yeah so I will try to articulate this process as best as I can um I've this process as best as I can um I've this process as best as I can um I've been studying with just an absolutely been studying with just an absolutely been studying with just an absolutely wonderful woman um her name is oena and

28:00wonderful woman um her name is oena and wonderful woman um her name is oena and she's from Ukraine she's from Ukraine she's from Ukraine um we move through a lot of different um we move through a lot of different um we move through a lot of different variations of this process but in variations of this process but in variations of this process but in general it's another way of creating general it's another way of creating general it's another way of creating transformation for the self with a transformation for the self with a transformation for the self with a little bit more intention um and little bit more intention um and little bit more intention um and bringing all of these elements into play bringing all of these elements into play bringing all of these elements into play so if you are looking to to change or so if you are looking to to change or so if you are looking to to change or transmute something that's going on in transmute something that's going on in transmute something that's going on in your life it's a really powerful tool to your life it's a really powerful tool to your life it's a really powerful tool to bring you into that new space yes um bring you into that new space yes um bring you into that new space yes um because of the intention that's behind because of the intention that's behind because of the intention that's behind it it it so recognizing what it is that you want so recognizing what it is that you want so recognizing what it is that you want to release what you want to grow and to release what you want to grow and to release what you want to grow and what you want changed so there's a goal what you want changed so there's a goal what you want changed so there's a goal for the work um and then there's a lot for the work um and then there's a lot for the work um and then there's a lot of different ways that you can integrate of different ways that you can integrate of different ways that you can integrate you know healing tools within that but

29:00you know healing tools within that but you know healing tools within that but there is always going to be some aspect there is always going to be some aspect there is always going to be some aspect of cleansing the body uh either with of cleansing the body uh either with of cleansing the body uh either with soap salt yeah um sugar yeah well soap salt yeah um sugar yeah well soap salt yeah um sugar yeah well potenti not sugar no honey yes honey potenti not sugar no honey yes honey potenti not sugar no honey yes honey that's right yeah so salt I may remember that's right yeah so salt I may remember that's right yeah so salt I may remember that using honey um Citrus integrating that using honey um Citrus integrating that using honey um Citrus integrating Citrus there's a lot of different ways Citrus there's a lot of different ways Citrus there's a lot of different ways of course definitely using the brooms of course definitely using the brooms of course definitely using the brooms yeah the brooms they are very important yeah the brooms they are very important yeah the brooms they are very important um and you're working with the sauna um and you're working with the sauna um and you're working with the sauna itself so like you're working with the itself so like you're working with the itself so like you're working with the fire you're working with the steam fire you're working with the steam fire you're working with the steam you're working with the you're working with the you're working with the plants uh you're plants uh you're plants uh you're listening and there is this kind of cold listening and there is this kind of cold listening and there is this kind of cold baptismal aspect of pouring water over baptismal aspect of pouring water over baptismal aspect of pouring water over the body it's amazing like I I mean I the body it's amazing like I I mean I the body it's amazing like I I mean I can't wait yeah I've done therapy but I can't wait yeah I've done therapy but I can't wait yeah I've done therapy but I want to make it a habit of doing it want to make it a habit of doing it want to make it a habit of doing it every season because I think it's just every season because I think it's just every season because I think it's just so so so uh ceremonial to change a season or

30:00uh ceremonial to change a season or uh ceremonial to change a season or coming into a new season and it just coming into a new season and it just coming into a new season and it just helps you connect so deeply with the helps you connect so deeply with the helps you connect so deeply with the elements like the outside the the plant elements like the outside the the plant elements like the outside the the plant energy like You' mentioned you know the energy like You' mentioned you know the energy like You' mentioned you know the Citrus and the steam and fire I mean Citrus and the steam and fire I mean Citrus and the steam and fire I mean it's um something must try and if you're it's um something must try and if you're it's um something must try and if you're listening from outside of Illinois you listening from outside of Illinois you listening from outside of Illinois you need to fly in to try glorious therapy need to fly in to try glorious therapy need to fly in to try glorious therapy it's well worth it you can camp out back it's well worth it you can camp out back it's well worth it you can camp out back you can we do have a bell tent for you can we do have a bell tent for you can we do have a bell tent for people people people yeah I mean it's it's this is your yeah I mean it's it's this is your yeah I mean it's it's this is your famous for this in my mind well I don't famous for this in my mind well I don't famous for this in my mind well I don't know if I'm famous for it I in my mind know if I'm famous for it I in my mind know if I'm famous for it I in my mind you you you are it's so great though I can't say are it's so great though I can't say are it's so great though I can't say enough about it um yeah but so okay so enough about it um yeah but so okay so enough about it um yeah but so okay so that is the therapy then they're going that is the therapy then they're going that is the therapy then they're going and they can C Plunge in between SE in and they can C Plunge in between SE in and they can C Plunge in between SE in between segments so again between segments so again between segments so again there's different ways to do each there's different ways to do each there's different ways to do each session I would never say that any

31:00session I would never say that any session I would never say that any session is duplicatable right like every session is duplicatable right like every session is duplicatable right like every session is going to be unique um to the session is going to be unique um to the session is going to be unique um to the person to the weather outside again if person to the weather outside again if person to the weather outside again if you look back at that field like the you look back at that field like the you look back at that field like the field around you and not just the sense field around you and not just the sense field around you and not just the sense in like a prairie but like the actual in like a prairie but like the actual in like a prairie but like the actual space that surrounds you so you're space that surrounds you so you're space that surrounds you so you're pulling from all of those elements yeah pulling from all of those elements yeah pulling from all of those elements yeah exactly and and me as a practitioner exactly and and me as a practitioner exactly and and me as a practitioner like I don't get to control all of those like I don't get to control all of those like I don't get to control all of those elements so I'm working with them yeah elements so I'm working with them yeah elements so I'm working with them yeah and that's the key word is Letting Go and that's the key word is Letting Go and that's the key word is Letting Go yeah allowing and basically letting up yeah allowing and basically letting up yeah allowing and basically letting up your your your control which society loves that hyper control which society loves that hyper control which society loves that hyper control of everything right it's it's so control of everything right it's it's so control of everything right it's it's so great uh so even just coming into the great uh so even just coming into the great uh so even just coming into the sauna to let go and allow is therapeutic sauna to let go and allow is therapeutic sauna to let go and allow is therapeutic because we are so micromanaging because we are so micromanaging because we are so micromanaging everything so intensely you know it's everything so intensely you know it's everything so intensely you know it's blowing up our nervous systems and so

32:00blowing up our nervous systems and so blowing up our nervous systems and so again this is a great way to kind of again this is a great way to kind of again this is a great way to kind of restore our nervous system it is yeah I restore our nervous system it is yeah I restore our nervous system it is yeah I find it to be incredibly therapeutic for find it to be incredibly therapeutic for find it to be incredibly therapeutic for the nervous system yeah it's amazing uh the nervous system yeah it's amazing uh the nervous system yeah it's amazing uh okay I use the word amazing because it's okay I use the word amazing because it's okay I use the word amazing because it's just so amazing uh but let's get into just so amazing uh but let's get into just so amazing uh but let's get into then any other I know you talked about then any other I know you talked about then any other I know you talked about the iaic therapist but any other the iaic therapist but any other the iaic therapist but any other therapies that you want to add in that therapies that you want to add in that therapies that you want to add in that are done besides like contrast and are done besides like contrast and are done besides like contrast and Ukrainian bath yeah so I mean we have a Ukrainian bath yeah so I mean we have a Ukrainian bath yeah so I mean we have a whole treatment room um here on whole treatment room um here on whole treatment room um here on Homestead saa's Property which is our Homestead saa's Property which is our Homestead saa's Property which is our our home as well yeah um so we have a our home as well yeah um so we have a our home as well yeah um so we have a treatment space where we offer massage treatment space where we offer massage treatment space where we offer massage therapy cranial sacral therapy um Mayan therapy cranial sacral therapy um Mayan therapy cranial sacral therapy um Mayan abdominal massage so there's a wide abdominal massage so there's a wide abdominal massage so there's a wide range of different treatments that we range of different treatments that we range of different treatments that we offer in the treatment room and you can offer in the treatment room and you can offer in the treatment room and you can also do if you don't want to do an also do if you don't want to do an also do if you don't want to do an entire ritual process maybe you just entire ritual process maybe you just entire ritual process maybe you just want like a taste of that process you want like a taste of that process you want like a taste of that process you can get just a salt scrub um in the can get just a salt scrub um in the can get just a salt scrub um in the sauna as well okay so there's lot of

33:00sauna as well okay so there's lot of sauna as well okay so there's lot of different options and we're always different options and we're always different options and we're always looking to expand and grow our services looking to expand and grow our services looking to expand and grow our services I have a lot of dreams for different I have a lot of dreams for different I have a lot of dreams for different things that we can do on this land um things that we can do on this land um things that we can do on this land um and it is so beautiful yeah we'll flip and it is so beautiful yeah we'll flip and it is so beautiful yeah we'll flip the camera so they can see uh but yeah the camera so they can see uh but yeah the camera so they can see uh but yeah okay so full range of treatments body okay so full range of treatments body okay so full range of treatments body work um you've got the contrast therapy work um you've got the contrast therapy work um you've got the contrast therapy you've got the connection with the Earth you've got the connection with the Earth you've got the connection with the Earth here here here what is ahead for you guys like what are what is ahead for you guys like what are what is ahead for you guys like what are you invited to like I know that this is you invited to like I know that this is you invited to like I know that this is really big like even since we've met really big like even since we've met really big like even since we've met we've only met a short time ago and we've only met a short time ago and we've only met a short time ago and there's so many things happening for you there's so many things happening for you there's so many things happening for you yeah so I am really excited to continue yeah so I am really excited to continue yeah so I am really excited to continue to expand um our community right here to expand um our community right here to expand um our community right here like at Homestead saunas um but also to like at Homestead saunas um but also to like at Homestead saunas um but also to create more collaborations and create more collaborations and create more collaborations and Partnerships just creating a general Partnerships just creating a general Partnerships just creating a general sense of community and culture um around sense of community and culture um around sense of community and culture um around nature really at the heart of it all um

34:00nature really at the heart of it all um nature really at the heart of it all um we do have this will be our second we do have this will be our second we do have this will be our second annual sauna Synergy coming up uh April annual sauna Synergy coming up uh April annual sauna Synergy coming up uh April 11th and 12th okay and that'll be a 11th and 12th okay and that'll be a 11th and 12th okay and that'll be a 2-day camp out and we have where is that 2-day camp out and we have where is that 2-day camp out and we have where is that H that will be at the kettle Marine H that will be at the kettle Marine H that will be at the kettle Marine Ranch in Eagle Wisconsin okay um so it's Ranch in Eagle Wisconsin okay um so it's Ranch in Eagle Wisconsin okay um so it's near East Troy and it's right in the near East Troy and it's right in the near East Troy and it's right in the heart of the kettle Marine Forest um heart of the kettle Marine Forest um heart of the kettle Marine Forest um really phenomenal space we'll have really phenomenal space we'll have really phenomenal space we'll have indoor and out outdoor space to utilize indoor and out outdoor space to utilize indoor and out outdoor space to utilize a big beautiful a big beautiful a big beautiful Barn um we are going to have some really Barn um we are going to have some really Barn um we are going to have some really amazing workshops multiple saunas we're amazing workshops multiple saunas we're amazing workshops multiple saunas we're bringing in a ton of other saunas from bringing in a ton of other saunas from bringing in a ton of other saunas from the area um just a celebration of the area um just a celebration of the area um just a celebration of thermal and bath culture in general but thermal and bath culture in general but thermal and bath culture in general but also again just bringing this place of also again just bringing this place of also again just bringing this place of community we're going to have some community we're going to have some community we're going to have some awesome music yeah it's going to be a awesome music yeah it's going to be a awesome music yeah it's going to be a really fun time oh my gosh I I want to really fun time oh my gosh I I want to really fun time oh my gosh I I want to go go go I want to say that this is probably the

35:00I want to say that this is probably the I want to say that this is probably the most important fact that we hit in this most important fact that we hit in this most important fact that we hit in this interview that you built this sauna so interview that you built this sauna so interview that you built this sauna so this sauna isn't a sauna that she this sauna isn't a sauna that she this sauna isn't a sauna that she purchased but that your husband built purchased but that your husband built purchased but that your husband built you guys co-built I should say together you guys co-built I should say together you guys co-built I should say together and maybe this is a good time for me to and maybe this is a good time for me to and maybe this is a good time for me to kind of EX you know expand the view but kind of EX you know expand the view but kind of EX you know expand the view but go ahead talk about how or why you go ahead talk about how or why you go ahead talk about how or why you decided to build it yeah so well um I decided to build it yeah so well um I decided to build it yeah so well um I would say that when Co happened I really would say that when Co happened I really would say that when Co happened I really didn't know what was going to happen didn't know what was going to happen didn't know what was going to happen with my massage practice with life we with my massage practice with life we with my massage practice with life we moved from Illinois to Wisconsin moved from Illinois to Wisconsin moved from Illinois to Wisconsin everything felt everything felt everything felt different and different and different and strange strange strange um and one day I really just woke up and um and one day I really just woke up and um and one day I really just woke up and had this idea to build a mobile sauna had this idea to build a mobile sauna had this idea to build a mobile sauna cuz I always wanted a sauna that was cuz I always wanted a sauna that was cuz I always wanted a sauna that was something that felt important to have something that felt important to have something that felt important to have living in the north um but if we ma made living in the north um but if we ma made living in the north um but if we ma made it mobile so that we could take it

36:00it mobile so that we could take it it mobile so that we could take it places and share it with other spaces um places and share it with other spaces um places and share it with other spaces um bring it bring it bring it into other people's homes other into other people's homes other into other people's homes other businesses uh it would just have that businesses uh it would just have that businesses uh it would just have that much more much more much more reach reach reach and so I did share the idea with my and so I did share the idea with my and so I did share the idea with my husband and we both got very excited husband and we both got very excited husband and we both got very excited about it um I waited until we had a about it um I waited until we had a about it um I waited until we had a 6-hour road trip to pop the question on 6-hour road trip to pop the question on 6-hour road trip to pop the question on him so he couldn't really avoid the him so he couldn't really avoid the him so he couldn't really avoid the conversation and uh we got really conversation and uh we got really conversation and uh we got really excited we had this fantastic car ride excited we had this fantastic car ride excited we had this fantastic car ride just planning all the ideas and just planning all the ideas and just planning all the ideas and different things that we wanted to do different things that we wanted to do different things that we wanted to do and there was a a pretty big evolution and there was a a pretty big evolution and there was a a pretty big evolution from like the original idea to what from like the original idea to what from like the original idea to what tangibly came to be um but I knew that tangibly came to be um but I knew that tangibly came to be um but I knew that there were very like fundamental aspects there were very like fundamental aspects there were very like fundamental aspects of the design that I needed to have in of the design that I needed to have in of the design that I needed to have in the sauna itself like we wanted to have the sauna itself like we wanted to have the sauna itself like we wanted to have cedar because of the natural Aroma um

37:00cedar because of the natural Aroma um cedar because of the natural Aroma um and properties that cedar has I wanted and properties that cedar has I wanted and properties that cedar has I wanted to make sure that we had two different to make sure that we had two different to make sure that we had two different bench Heights so that you could bench Heights so that you could bench Heights so that you could alternate from hot to cold I also wanted alternate from hot to cold I also wanted alternate from hot to cold I also wanted to make sure that the benches themselves to make sure that the benches themselves to make sure that the benches themselves were wide enough that you know any were wide enough that you know any were wide enough that you know any person of any size could comfortably lay person of any size could comfortably lay person of any size could comfortably lay down and relax on the down and relax on the down and relax on the benches um and talk about the stone the benches um and talk about the stone the benches um and talk about the stone the heater yeah and the fire yeah so cuz heater yeah and the fire yeah so cuz heater yeah and the fire yeah so cuz that's like really the mac daddy of that's like really the mac daddy of that's like really the mac daddy of heaters here yeah so this uh this is a heaters here yeah so this uh this is a heaters here yeah so this uh this is a wh stove from wh stove from wh stove from Estonia um and I really fell in love Estonia um and I really fell in love Estonia um and I really fell in love with the look of this stove I love the with the look of this stove I love the with the look of this stove I love the design I love the radiant heat that all design I love the radiant heat that all design I love the radiant heat that all of the stone creates um I went back and of the stone creates um I went back and of the stone creates um I went back and forth for probably 3 months trying to

38:00forth for probably 3 months trying to forth for probably 3 months trying to decide and finalize what heater and decide and finalize what heater and decide and finalize what heater and heating element we were going to utilize heating element we were going to utilize heating element we were going to utilize and I kept coming back to the ho and I'm and I kept coming back to the ho and I'm and I kept coming back to the ho and I'm so grateful that this is the stove that so grateful that this is the stove that so grateful that this is the stove that we have so no we have so no we have so no regrets I I love it it's amazing and regrets I I love it it's amazing and regrets I I love it it's amazing and then when you you can actually steam in then when you you can actually steam in then when you you can actually steam in here too right you create the steam with here too right you create the steam with here too right you create the steam with the water yeah I don't know if you want the water yeah I don't know if you want the water yeah I don't know if you want me to do that we probably won't be able me to do that we probably won't be able me to do that we probably won't be able to you yeah go ahead this is great to you yeah go ahead this is great to you yeah go ahead this is great people need to really see it okay and in good and even if our screen gets steamed good and even if our screen gets steamed up we can everything's editable and up we can everything's editable and up we can everything's editable and actually I think it's okay since our actually I think it's okay since our actually I think it's okay since our Do's open yeah may do have the door open Do's open yeah may do have the door open Do's open yeah may do have the door open so it this is amazing Gloria oh my gosh so it this is amazing Gloria oh my gosh so it this is amazing Gloria oh my gosh there's so much benefit just to even sitting in

39:00so much benefit just to even sitting in here with it warm with the door open so here with it warm with the door open so here with it warm with the door open so I I I mean it's just a great place to hang out mean it's just a great place to hang out mean it's just a great place to hang out it's like i' love to have a SAA as an it's like i' love to have a SAA as an it's like i' love to have a SAA as an extension of my home I think it'd be extension of my home I think it'd be extension of my home I think it'd be great uh the natural but talk about the great uh the natural but talk about the great uh the natural but talk about the benefit of that heater versus the benefit of that heater versus the benefit of that heater versus the electric well again I think it comes electric well again I think it comes electric well again I think it comes back to the elemental nature um and the back to the elemental nature um and the back to the elemental nature um and the tradition of sauna uh there's just tradition of sauna uh there's just tradition of sauna uh there's just something very raw and Primal about fire something very raw and Primal about fire something very raw and Primal about fire um that is tangibly different than um that is tangibly different than um that is tangibly different than something that you plug in um yeah something that you plug in um yeah something that you plug in um yeah they're they're they're just some people would say that it also just some people would say that it also just some people would say that it also feels like it creates a different kind feels like it creates a different kind feels like it creates a different kind of heat um I also really love like our of heat um I also really love like our of heat um I also really love like our stove has a glass door so that you can stove has a glass door so that you can stove has a glass door so that you can get that infrared benefit from the fire get that infrared benefit from the fire get that infrared benefit from the fire itself um as humans like we always sat itself um as humans like we always sat itself um as humans like we always sat around fires had fire like fire was our around fires had fire like fire was our around fires had fire like fire was our red light therapy since the beginning of

40:00red light therapy since the beginning of red light therapy since the beginning of time right honestly yeah so I think time right honestly yeah so I think time right honestly yeah so I think again it does come down to preference again it does come down to preference again it does come down to preference some people find the ease of an electric some people find the ease of an electric some people find the ease of an electric stove to be you know more beneficial but stove to be you know more beneficial but stove to be you know more beneficial but for me there was no question it for me there was no question it for me there was no question it absolutely had to be a fire definitely absolutely had to be a fire definitely absolutely had to be a fire definitely connected to the connected to the connected to the elements and again this the shape makes elements and again this the shape makes elements and again this the shape makes a difference too right so that's big a difference too right so that's big a difference too right so that's big like some people are finding those like some people are finding those like some people are finding those circular saunas circular saunas circular saunas or um different shapes online that they or um different shapes online that they or um different shapes online that they can put together tell me what you know can put together tell me what you know can put together tell me what you know as an expert in design so I would say as an expert in design so I would say as an expert in design so I would say that in that in that in general um the barrel saunas which are general um the barrel saunas which are general um the barrel saunas which are pretty popular um they can be they can pretty popular um they can be they can pretty popular um they can be they can be great they can definitely like get to be great they can definitely like get to be great they can definitely like get to a good temperature if you have a really a good temperature if you have a really a good temperature if you have a really good stove um so there is a local good stove um so there is a local good stove um so there is a local company as in like American company um

41:00company as in like American company um company as in like American company um the kuma stove uh and they are based out the kuma stove uh and they are based out the kuma stove uh and they are based out of Minneapolis of Minneapolis of Minneapolis Minnesota and they do make a really Minnesota and they do make a really Minnesota and they do make a really powerful stove it's extremely powerful powerful stove it's extremely powerful powerful stove it's extremely powerful and so I think if you have a stove and so I think if you have a stove and so I think if you have a stove that's like such a that's like such a that's like such a Powerhouse you can heat those Barrel Powerhouse you can heat those Barrel Powerhouse you can heat those Barrel saunas um to a higher temperature but saunas um to a higher temperature but saunas um to a higher temperature but otherwise sometimes what we have found otherwise sometimes what we have found otherwise sometimes what we have found is that some of the barrels struggle to is that some of the barrels struggle to is that some of the barrels struggle to create contain and fold the heat yeah create contain and fold the heat yeah create contain and fold the heat yeah and there's you know there can be some and there's you know there can be some and there's you know there can be some challenges with them um I think I can't challenges with them um I think I can't challenges with them um I think I can't remember what they're called but like remember what they're called but like remember what they're called but like there's bindings on them that you do there's bindings on them that you do there's bindings on them that you do have to like adjust okay with the have to like adjust okay with the have to like adjust okay with the expansion and contrast of the wood just expansion and contrast of the wood just expansion and contrast of the wood just within you know the different seasons within you know the different seasons within you know the different seasons okay um a lot of those are also not okay um a lot of those are also not okay um a lot of those are also not insulated MH so not having like the insulated MH so not having like the insulated MH so not having like the extra insulation can sometimes be tricky extra insulation can sometimes be tricky extra insulation can sometimes be tricky just when you live in the North and it just when you live in the North and it just when you live in the North and it can be -20° outside yes um and you know

42:00can be -20° outside yes um and you know can be -20° outside yes um and you know we we do have a small but functional we we do have a small but functional we we do have a small but functional changing room and that really also acts changing room and that really also acts changing room and that really also acts as an extra catchment room for the heat as an extra catchment room for the heat as an extra catchment room for the heat so that when you open up the sauna door so that when you open up the sauna door so that when you open up the sauna door not all the heat right out right yeah not all the heat right out right yeah not all the heat right out right yeah and that's so so we we'll we'll take a and that's so so we we'll we'll take a and that's so so we we'll we'll take a break and then we'll come back with you break and then we'll come back with you break and then we'll come back with you showing the areas because I think that's showing the areas because I think that's showing the areas because I think that's really powerful people are probably just really powerful people are probably just really powerful people are probably just dying to see what's around the corner dying to see what's around the corner dying to see what's around the corner and and and outside so U let's wrap up just the main outside so U let's wrap up just the main outside so U let's wrap up just the main part of this which is where are you part of this which is where are you part of this which is where are you going to be uh this coming year with going to be uh this coming year with going to be uh this coming year with your sauna and then where can people your sauna and then where can people your sauna and then where can people find you yeah and any last um thoughts find you yeah and any last um thoughts find you yeah and any last um thoughts that you want to share on sauna sure so that you want to share on sauna sure so that you want to share on sauna sure so you can always find us on Homestead you can always find us on Homestead you can always find us on Homestead saa.com that's our website we Homestead saa.com that's our website we Homestead saa.com that's our website we Homestead sauna is on Instagram um and if you want sauna is on Instagram um and if you want sauna is on Instagram um and if you want to catch us in person we have sauna to catch us in person we have sauna to catch us in person we have sauna Synergy coming up April 11th and 12th in

43:00Synergy coming up April 11th and 12th in Synergy coming up April 11th and 12th in the kettle Marine Ranch in Eagle and the kettle Marine Ranch in Eagle and the kettle Marine Ranch in Eagle and that will be us plus a ton of other that will be us plus a ton of other that will be us plus a ton of other things happening that whole things happening that whole things happening that whole weekend um and we've got a few events weekend um and we've got a few events weekend um and we've got a few events happening at the driftless music Gardens happening at the driftless music Gardens happening at the driftless music Gardens this summer okay and we will be at the this summer okay and we will be at the this summer okay and we will be at the Midwest women's herbal conference and Midwest women's herbal conference and Midwest women's herbal conference and mycelium Mysteries and those will be a mycelium Mysteries and those will be a mycelium Mysteries and those will be a little bit further North near Stevens's little bit further North near Stevens's little bit further North near Stevens's point and those are May and September point and those are May and September point and those are May and September respectively right so uh May the respectively right so uh May the respectively right so uh May the conference is actually already sold out conference is actually already sold out conference is actually already sold out um for the herbal conference but that um for the herbal conference but that um for the herbal conference but that one is May I think 17th until the 24th one is May I think 17th until the 24th one is May I think 17th until the 24th and then the mushroom conference is and then the mushroom conference is and then the mushroom conference is always the end of September mhm during always the end of September mhm during always the end of September mhm during the Equinox yeah yeah during the fall the Equinox yeah yeah during the fall the Equinox yeah yeah during the fall equinox okay well this has been great equinox okay well this has been great equinox okay well this has been great and we're going to come back with a and we're going to come back with a and we're going to come back with a little tour so stick little tour so stick little tour so stick around so if you look around this is the around so if you look around this is the around so if you look around this is the nature that surrounds the homestead

44:00nature that surrounds the homestead nature that surrounds the homestead sauna and Gloria is going to show us into the SAA come on in so this is the changing area small changing area this is the this is the warm and steamy this is the this is the warm and steamy SAA what brings it all together yes and SAA what brings it all together yes and SAA what brings it all together yes and I will steam her up here I will steam her up here I will steam her up here [Music] yeah I'm sure as you're watching you yeah I'm sure as you're watching you want to dive right into the screen and want to dive right into the screen and want to dive right into the screen and sit right up here these are some of the wooden tools that

45:00these are some of the wooden tools that you can use we have a whole bunch of you can use we have a whole bunch of you can use we have a whole bunch of different tools used for different different tools used for different different tools used for different things to help with lymphatic drainage things to help with lymphatic drainage things to help with lymphatic drainage for the body um this is dry right now for the body um this is dry right now for the body um this is dry right now but this is one of our Botanical brooms but this is one of our Botanical brooms but this is one of our Botanical brooms we do use soap and sea sponges warm we do use soap and sea sponges warm we do use soap and sea sponges warm honey and salt for some of our ritual honey and salt for some of our ritual honey and salt for some of our ritual processes yeah and and this is uh the processes yeah and and this is uh the processes yeah and and this is uh the view if we can see oh yeah there's the view if we can see oh yeah there's the view if we can see oh yeah there's the beautiful view of southern Wisconsin on beautiful view of southern Wisconsin on beautiful view of southern Wisconsin on a 50° February day a 50° February day a 50° February day so so I think that that'll wrap it up so so I think that that'll wrap it up so so I think that that'll wrap it up for us today thank you so much Gloria for us today thank you so much Gloria for us today thank you so much Gloria Joan I'm so excited we could do this Joan I'm so excited we could do this Joan I'm so excited we could do this together and everybody needs to visit together and everybody needs to visit together and everybody needs to visit Homestead SAS and Sharon Wisconsin thank Homestead SAS and Sharon Wisconsin thank Homestead SAS and Sharon Wisconsin thank you thank you

The Warmth of Wellness Exploring Sauna Culture and Contrast Therapy with Gloria