OVERCOMING FEAR THROUGH COLD EXPOSURE BREATHWORK AND EMBRACING DISCOMFORT David
00:00this is power today we're sharing an exciting power today we're sharing an exciting episode and this one's a little episode and this one's a little episode and this one's a little different because Kristen's going to be different because Kristen's going to be different because Kristen's going to be in the hot seat you see she recently in the hot seat you see she recently in the hot seat you see she recently shared a wonderful conversation with shared a wonderful conversation with shared a wonderful conversation with dear friend David Stewart David is the dear friend David Stewart David is the dear friend David Stewart David is the founder of aist and host the super age founder of aist and host the super age founder of aist and host the super age podcast as you can probably guess he set podcast as you can probably guess he set podcast as you can probably guess he set out to understand how we can all live out to understand how we can all live out to understand how we can all live our best lives and approaches his our best lives and approaches his our best lives and approaches his conversations from a fairly holistic conversations from a fairly holistic conversations from a fairly holistic view so this kind of led to some really view so this kind of led to some really view so this kind of led to some really interesting threadlines throughout the interesting threadlines throughout the interesting threadlines throughout the conversation as David was able to probe conversation as David was able to probe conversation as David was able to probe Kristen on a range of topics some of Kristen on a range of topics some of Kristen on a range of topics some of these topics include you know overcoming these topics include you know overcoming these topics include you know overcoming fear and stepping outside your your fear and stepping outside your your fear and stepping outside your your comfort zone and of course how comfort zone and of course how comfort zone and of course how biohacking can allow us to do that I'm a biohacking can allow us to do that I'm a biohacking can allow us to do that I'm a part of Kristen's production team I part of Kristen's production team I part of Kristen's production team I listen to all of her podcasts including listen to all of her podcasts including listen to all of her podcasts including her guest appearances and I thought that her guest appearances and I thought that her guest appearances and I thought that this one was just too good not to share this one was just too good not to share this one was just too good not to share on her own podcast so I had her on her own podcast so I had her on her own podcast so I had her repurpose this and share it on the feed repurpose this and share it on the feed
01:00repurpose this and share it on the feed so that's enough for me let's hear from so that's enough for me let's hear from so that's enough for me let's hear from David and Kristen welcome to the David and Kristen welcome to the David and Kristen welcome to the wellpower podcast I'm your host Kristen wellpower podcast I'm your host Kristen wellpower podcast I'm your host Kristen whitel together we explore Health whitel together we explore Health whitel together we explore Health optimization tools that Propel you from optimization tools that Propel you from optimization tools that Propel you from Comfort to courage Illuminating the path Comfort to courage Illuminating the path Comfort to courage Illuminating the path together to a remarkable life through together to a remarkable life through together to a remarkable life through breath cold and breath cold and breath cold and biohacking hey Kristen how are you today biohacking hey Kristen how are you today biohacking hey Kristen how are you today I am wonderful and so happy to be here I am wonderful and so happy to be here I am wonderful and so happy to be here with you it's great to have you um as we with you it's great to have you um as we with you it's great to have you um as we were talking offline I found you because were talking offline I found you because were talking offline I found you because you're part of uh the brain tap you're part of uh the brain tap you're part of uh the brain tap biohack package and your three biohack package and your three biohack package and your three meditations are like my favorites I feel meditations are like my favorites I feel meditations are like my favorites I feel like I know you because I listen to you like I know you because I listen to you like I know you because I listen to you like a couple times a week which is like a couple times a week which is like a couple times a week which is weird you don't I don't know not weird weird you don't I don't know not weird weird you don't I don't know not weird it's amazing it's amazing great it's it's amazing it's amazing great it's it's amazing it's amazing great it's amazing people sometimes ask me if I amazing people sometimes ask me if I amazing people sometimes ask me if I listen to myself and I'm like I'm not listen to myself and I'm like I'm not listen to myself and I'm like I'm not quite there yet so but yeah people will quite there yet so but yeah people will quite there yet so but yeah people will tag me and and once in a while when they tag me and and once in a while when they tag me and and once in a while when they feel like hey I really want to shout you feel like hey I really want to shout you feel like hey I really want to shout you out because I had a rough day today and out because I had a rough day today and out because I had a rough day today and I got some breath work and meditation in I got some breath work and meditation in I got some breath work and meditation in and
02:00and and yeah it makes me feel like my work is um yeah it makes me feel like my work is um yeah it makes me feel like my work is um creating value for people which is why creating value for people which is why creating value for people which is why why I'm here there's a few things I want why I'm here there's a few things I want why I'm here there's a few things I want to hit on here help me if I'm if I'm to hit on here help me if I'm if I'm to hit on here help me if I'm if I'm wrong here but I I see a lot of your wrong here but I I see a lot of your wrong here but I I see a lot of your work when you work with people work when you work with people work when you work with people especially women this idea of one's especially women this idea of one's especially women this idea of one's capability versus the fear that sort of capability versus the fear that sort of capability versus the fear that sort of holds one back I think this is not holds one back I think this is not holds one back I think this is not entirely gender specific either I think entirely gender specific either I think entirely gender specific either I think men just have sort of different silly men just have sort of different silly men just have sort of different silly fears I'm one of them I can say that so fears I'm one of them I can say that so fears I'm one of them I can say that so talk to me a little bit about the two talk to me a little bit about the two talk to me a little bit about the two poles of capability that we have and poles of capability that we have and poles of capability that we have and fear that maybe we don't want to go fear that maybe we don't want to go fear that maybe we don't want to go there yeah I mean the the fear piece there yeah I mean the the fear piece there yeah I mean the the fear piece they're really story right one of my they're really story right one of my they're really story right one of my biohacking besties will always say you biohacking besties will always say you biohacking besties will always say you know we're going to hey let's walk know we're going to hey let's walk know we're going to hey let's walk through the valley of death let's not through the valley of death let's not through the valley of death let's not build a condo there and people get build a condo there and people get build a condo there and people get caught up in their story in some in some caught up in their story in some in some caught up in their story in some in some spaces in some ways and I think a lot of spaces in some ways and I think a lot of spaces in some ways and I think a lot of times this is the thing we see with sort times this is the thing we see with sort times this is the thing we see with sort of procrastination or nervousness we're of procrastination or nervousness we're of procrastination or nervousness we're doing a lot of lyic looping in the brain doing a lot of lyic looping in the brain doing a lot of lyic looping in the brain about making the story worse than it
03:00about making the story worse than it about making the story worse than it actually is really there is a piece and actually is really there is a piece and actually is really there is a piece and component of life that feels like leap component of life that feels like leap component of life that feels like leap in the net will appear how do I choose in the net will appear how do I choose in the net will appear how do I choose something and even if it's not the thing something and even if it's not the thing something and even if it's not the thing I want but it comes to me and that I want but it comes to me and that I want but it comes to me and that doesn't mean like hey I guess I'll just doesn't mean like hey I guess I'll just doesn't mean like hey I guess I'll just suck it up and deal with this Embrace suck it up and deal with this Embrace suck it up and deal with this Embrace this suck it's like how do I say okay this suck it's like how do I say okay this suck it's like how do I say okay this breakup in my life just happened this breakup in my life just happened this breakup in my life just happened and I don't want it and I'm going going and I don't want it and I'm going going and I don't want it and I'm going going to choose it I'm going to joyfully put to choose it I'm going to joyfully put to choose it I'm going to joyfully put myself in front of it so that I can myself in front of it so that I can myself in front of it so that I can experience the what the exploration is experience the what the exploration is experience the what the exploration is here so that I can grow because it's here so that I can grow because it's here so that I can grow because it's happening for me and all of that can happening for me and all of that can happening for me and all of that can sound a bit like cerebral and perhaps oh sound a bit like cerebral and perhaps oh sound a bit like cerebral and perhaps oh easier said than done which it is but I easier said than done which it is but I easier said than done which it is but I think when you have the right tools to think when you have the right tools to think when you have the right tools to embrace the fear to unwind your story embrace the fear to unwind your story embrace the fear to unwind your story and you start to unpack and maybe and you start to unpack and maybe and you start to unpack and maybe self-actualize exactly where you are in self-actualize exactly where you are in self-actualize exactly where you are in space and time if those things exist space and time if those things exist space and time if those things exist then we get an opportunity to sort of
04:00then we get an opportunity to sort of then we get an opportunity to sort of release some of that right and and I release some of that right and and I release some of that right and and I talk about capacity on the other side of talk about capacity on the other side of talk about capacity on the other side of this a lot 90% of people I meet are this a lot 90% of people I meet are this a lot 90% of people I meet are selling themselves short and I don't selling themselves short and I don't selling themselves short and I don't like those statistics I don't know about like those statistics I don't know about like those statistics I don't know about you you know we talk I do have a lot of you you know we talk I do have a lot of you you know we talk I do have a lot of women in my audience and women I work women in my audience and women I work women in my audience and women I work with and then with Sherpa breath and with and then with Sherpa breath and with and then with Sherpa breath and cold I'm doing Performance training in cold I'm doing Performance training in cold I'm doing Performance training in sports and athletes and and and it's sports and athletes and and and it's sports and athletes and and and it's across the board every shape size color across the board every shape size color across the board every shape size color gender fluidity like everyone I'm so gender fluidity like everyone I'm so gender fluidity like everyone I'm so happy to work in these healing happy to work in these healing happy to work in these healing modalities with everyone I see it with modalities with everyone I see it with modalities with everyone I see it with so many people that as they start to so many people that as they start to so many people that as they start to layer in the right tools as they start layer in the right tools as they start layer in the right tools as they start begin to surprise themselves by having a begin to surprise themselves by having a begin to surprise themselves by having a fierce commitment to consistency with fierce commitment to consistency with fierce commitment to consistency with those tools then the fear starts to those tools then the fear starts to those tools then the fear starts to trickle away and the capacity begins to trickle away and the capacity begins to trickle away and the capacity begins to grow it's almost like this holy I grow it's almost like this holy I grow it's almost like this holy I can do hard things I had no idea how can do hard things I had no idea how can do hard things I had no idea how amazing or how much expansion I had or amazing or how much expansion I had or amazing or how much expansion I had or how much strength I had to be able to how much strength I had to be able to how much strength I had to be able to get through this thing this is like when get through this thing this is like when get through this thing this is like when you go to a restaurant and it's really
05:00you go to a restaurant and it's really you go to a restaurant and it's really bad you write a review you write a bad you write a review you write a bad you write a review you write a review and you say that was awful but review and you say that was awful but review and you say that was awful but it's not as often that we have a it's not as often that we have a it's not as often that we have a wonderful experience and we we we write wonderful experience and we we we write wonderful experience and we we we write a review and I think fear is the same a review and I think fear is the same a review and I think fear is the same thing like it capitalizes on itself thing like it capitalizes on itself thing like it capitalizes on itself right we have a tough a scary thing or a right we have a tough a scary thing or a right we have a tough a scary thing or a bad uh microt trauma trauma in our life bad uh microt trauma trauma in our life bad uh microt trauma trauma in our life it repeats on itself it's in ourselves it repeats on itself it's in ourselves it repeats on itself it's in ourselves and we're like oh I'm going to write the and we're like oh I'm going to write the and we're like oh I'm going to write the review for that my brain's going to review for that my brain's going to review for that my brain's going to remember that because I was out of remember that because I was out of remember that because I was out of safety and so that to me is really like safety and so that to me is really like safety and so that to me is really like where we need to navigate more is like where we need to navigate more is like where we need to navigate more is like how we unpack the places and times in how we unpack the places and times in how we unpack the places and times in our lives we felt unsafe so that we can our lives we felt unsafe so that we can our lives we felt unsafe so that we can unpack fear so we can live into the unpack fear so we can live into the unpack fear so we can live into the fullest capacity of how amazing we are fullest capacity of how amazing we are fullest capacity of how amazing we are yeah it's that negativity bias which you yeah it's that negativity bias which you yeah it's that negativity bias which you know served us well as cave people but a know served us well as cave people but a know served us well as cave people but a lot well less well now a lot of your lot well less well now a lot of your lot well less well now a lot of your work is very physical talk to me a work is very physical talk to me a work is very physical talk to me a little bit about overcoming discomfort little bit about overcoming discomfort little bit about overcoming discomfort as a way of changing this story that you as a way of changing this story that you as a way of changing this story that you speak about like our self story and speak about like our self story and speak about like our self story and increasing what we believe our capacity increasing what we believe our capacity increasing what we believe our capacity is through physicality
06:00is through physicality is through physicality yeah yeah that's an awesome question it yeah yeah that's an awesome question it yeah yeah that's an awesome question it brings things to mind like you know brings things to mind like you know brings things to mind like you know sprinting sprinting is a perfect example sprinting sprinting is a perfect example sprinting sprinting is a perfect example of something where we're creating a a of something where we're creating a a of something where we're creating a a deliberate very short-term stressor to deliberate very short-term stressor to deliberate very short-term stressor to be able to adapt and get better at a be able to adapt and get better at a be able to adapt and get better at a cellular level and maybe perhaps even at cellular level and maybe perhaps even at cellular level and maybe perhaps even at a physical level if we want to be a a physical level if we want to be a a physical level if we want to be a better marathoner a better racer A better marathoner a better racer A better marathoner a better racer A recomposition our body Etc but you'll recomposition our body Etc but you'll recomposition our body Etc but you'll surely much more often see someone doing surely much more often see someone doing surely much more often see someone doing like a 5k jog than you will sprinting like a 5k jog than you will sprinting like a 5k jog than you will sprinting out in the streets like during out in the streets like during out in the streets like during quarantine I was like out in front of my quarantine I was like out in front of my quarantine I was like out in front of my neighbor's houses I'm sure they thought neighbor's houses I'm sure they thought neighbor's houses I'm sure they thought I was crazy but I was like there's I was crazy but I was like there's I was crazy but I was like there's nowhere else to Sprint I'm just going to nowhere else to Sprint I'm just going to nowhere else to Sprint I'm just going to sprint in the streets talk about the sprint in the streets talk about the sprint in the streets talk about the biohacking world movement and Mobility biohacking world movement and Mobility biohacking world movement and Mobility it's being talked about a little more it's being talked about a little more it's being talked about a little more and strength training and all of those and strength training and all of those and strength training and all of those things that's one of the things that's things that's one of the things that's things that's one of the things that's sort of spoken about the least which is sort of spoken about the least which is sort of spoken about the least which is always so interesting to me because it always so interesting to me because it always so interesting to me because it is like the lifeblood of everything that is like the lifeblood of everything that is like the lifeblood of everything that we do our body it's like an object in we do our body it's like an object in we do our body it's like an object in motion stays in motion we want to age motion stays in motion we want to age motion stays in motion we want to age gracefully let's move so I use things gracefully let's move so I use things gracefully let's move so I use things like you know I'm I'm a big believer like you know I'm I'm a big believer like you know I'm I'm a big believer Stacey Sims who's just a winning some Stacey Sims who's just a winning some Stacey Sims who's just a winning some female re researcher and performance
07:00female re researcher and performance female re researcher and performance athlete talks a lot about lift heavy athlete talks a lot about lift heavy athlete talks a lot about lift heavy hey ladies lift heavy because hey ladies lift heavy because hey ladies lift heavy because you're not enough right and that holds you're not enough right and that holds you're not enough right and that holds true for men and women and just we have true for men and women and just we have true for men and women and just we have a little bit of a I think we're more a little bit of a I think we're more a little bit of a I think we're more risk averse just genetically and so we risk averse just genetically and so we risk averse just genetically and so we have we're like hey five pound dumbbell have we're like hey five pound dumbbell have we're like hey five pound dumbbell looks good it's like no that's not looks good it's like no that's not looks good it's like no that's not that's not the thing so things like that's not the thing so things like that's not the thing so things like sprinting things like getting in a cold sprinting things like getting in a cold sprinting things like getting in a cold ice bath things like lifting some heavy ice bath things like lifting some heavy ice bath things like lifting some heavy weights in a way that of course we want weights in a way that of course we want weights in a way that of course we want to have biomechanical form and we want to have biomechanical form and we want to have biomechanical form and we want to like I'm not just going to walk up to to like I'm not just going to walk up to to like I'm not just going to walk up to a squat rack and put 200 pounds on and a squat rack and put 200 pounds on and a squat rack and put 200 pounds on and get under it like Darwin let's let's get under it like Darwin let's let's get under it like Darwin let's let's let's be smart you know yeah those let's be smart you know yeah those let's be smart you know yeah those things are so critical because this is things are so critical because this is things are so critical because this is again all of these are stressed again all of these are stressed again all of these are stressed adaptations to stressors that we are adaptations to stressors that we are adaptations to stressors that we are providing to our bodies so we can providing to our bodies so we can providing to our bodies so we can increase our capacity and Mobility to me increase our capacity and Mobility to me increase our capacity and Mobility to me feels like it's the low hanging fruit feels like it's the low hanging fruit feels like it's the low hanging fruit breath is the same way low hanging fruit breath is the same way low hanging fruit breath is the same way low hanging fruit for adaptation to be a better human to for adaptation to be a better human to for adaptation to be a better human to feel better and to live longer happier feel better and to live longer happier feel better and to live longer happier healthier I'm totally on board with that healthier I'm totally on board with that healthier I'm totally on board with that I I mean I think Fitness in all of its I I mean I think Fitness in all of its I I mean I think Fitness in all of its forms is just so essential and that forms is just so essential and that forms is just so essential and that everybody needs to resistance train if
08:00everybody needs to resistance train if everybody needs to resistance train if you're not resistance training you're you're not resistance training you're you're not resistance training you're losing muscle that's just how it is so losing muscle that's just how it is so losing muscle that's just how it is so you have a a phrase the comfort zone is you have a a phrase the comfort zone is you have a a phrase the comfort zone is killing you and to me I've seen that a killing you and to me I've seen that a killing you and to me I've seen that a lot of the things that probably you and lot of the things that probably you and lot of the things that probably you and I do are not considered sort of I do are not considered sort of I do are not considered sort of mainstream socially acceptable whereas mainstream socially acceptable whereas mainstream socially acceptable whereas starting the day with a dut or something starting the day with a dut or something starting the day with a dut or something is fine so talk to me a little bit about is fine so talk to me a little bit about is fine so talk to me a little bit about this sort of way that and I think this sort of way that and I think this sort of way that and I think especially we get a little older this especially we get a little older this especially we get a little older this idea that Comfort needs to be sort of idea that Comfort needs to be sort of idea that Comfort needs to be sort of the primary driver when the primary driver when the primary driver when actually maybe not so much yeah I mean actually maybe not so much yeah I mean actually maybe not so much yeah I mean even neurochemically right we talk about even neurochemically right we talk about even neurochemically right we talk about you listen to our call Our Lord huberman you listen to our call Our Lord huberman you listen to our call Our Lord huberman is what I refer to Andrew huberman now is what I refer to Andrew huberman now is what I refer to Andrew huberman now as our Lord huberman because you know as our Lord huberman because you know as our Lord huberman because you know I'm in a space Reverend's like I don't I'm in a space Reverend's like I don't I'm in a space Reverend's like I don't know if you heard but huberman told said know if you heard but huberman told said know if you heard but huberman told said this so it has to be true and it's the this so it has to be true and it's the this so it has to be true and it's the only thing oh God I love his work I'm so only thing oh God I love his work I'm so only thing oh God I love his work I'm so thankful for it and also yeah there's thankful for it and also yeah there's thankful for it and also yeah there's bioindividual bioindividual bioindividual and it's beautiful in some ways how he's
09:00and it's beautiful in some ways how he's and it's beautiful in some ways how he's revered and I just also think it's fun revered and I just also think it's fun revered and I just also think it's fun but you know he'll talk about but you know he'll talk about but you know he'll talk about neuroplasticity and and we we know in neuroplasticity and and we we know in neuroplasticity and and we we know in the biohacking sphere and the health and the biohacking sphere and the health and the biohacking sphere and the health and wellness sphere we know it's like what's wellness sphere we know it's like what's wellness sphere we know it's like what's the best thing I think Ben Greenfield the best thing I think Ben Greenfield the best thing I think Ben Greenfield even just talked about this on some even just talked about this on some even just talked about this on some social post I saw it's like what's one social post I saw it's like what's one social post I saw it's like what's one of the best things you can do as an of the best things you can do as an of the best things you can do as an aging adult pick up an instrument a new aging adult pick up an instrument a new aging adult pick up an instrument a new instrument instrument instrument tryage do something going to stretch you tryage do something going to stretch you tryage do something going to stretch you in a way and and maybe purposefully in a way and and maybe purposefully in a way and and maybe purposefully right in a sense it's probably I'm not right in a sense it's probably I'm not right in a sense it's probably I'm not going to learn chineses if I'm going to going to learn chineses if I'm going to going to learn chineses if I'm going to go travel around Mexico for a month go travel around Mexico for a month go travel around Mexico for a month right I'm like learn a new language for right I'm like learn a new language for right I'm like learn a new language for a purpose for context because you need a purpose for context because you need a purpose for context because you need to have the driver the real reason to do to have the driver the real reason to do to have the driver the real reason to do it is not like I want to have more it is not like I want to have more it is not like I want to have more neuroplasticity and better aging brain neuroplasticity and better aging brain neuroplasticity and better aging brain but trying these things out and trying but trying these things out and trying but trying these things out and trying them on for size I think we discover them on for size I think we discover them on for size I think we discover that there's so many more things we can that there's so many more things we can that there's so many more things we can like in the world or love or enjoy that like in the world or love or enjoy that like in the world or love or enjoy that we didn't know about there's so much we didn't know about there's so much we didn't know about there's so much benefit to our brain and our benefit to our brain and our benefit to our brain and our neurochemistry and really stretching neurochemistry and really stretching neurochemistry and really stretching ourselves past this comfort zone thing ourselves past this comfort zone thing ourselves past this comfort zone thing it's like you know there's different it's like you know there's different it's like you know there's different generations and different ideas and generations and different ideas and generations and different ideas and thoughts and I've seen lots of people in
10:00thoughts and I've seen lots of people in thoughts and I've seen lots of people in different stages of their lives but we different stages of their lives but we different stages of their lives but we got to get past the doughnut is the best got to get past the doughnut is the best got to get past the doughnut is the best breakfast moment if that's really you breakfast moment if that's really you breakfast moment if that's really you know still of course it's still around know still of course it's still around know still of course it's still around and not saying nobody anybody shouldn't and not saying nobody anybody shouldn't and not saying nobody anybody shouldn't like run off and have a doughnut every like run off and have a doughnut every like run off and have a doughnut every so often I'm I hate overly restricting so often I'm I hate overly restricting so often I'm I hate overly restricting people from things that bring them Joy people from things that bring them Joy people from things that bring them Joy because I do believe like I'm a because I do believe like I'm a because I do believe like I'm a gluten-free eater right but if I go and gluten-free eater right but if I go and gluten-free eater right but if I go and someone's Nana is like I and I'm not someone's Nana is like I and I'm not someone's Nana is like I and I'm not it's not a Celiac it's not an allergy so it's not a Celiac it's not an allergy so it's not a Celiac it's not an allergy so if someone's n is like sweating into a if someone's n is like sweating into a if someone's n is like sweating into a sauce and making a big pasta dish and sauce and making a big pasta dish and sauce and making a big pasta dish and whatever and serving it to me I want to whatever and serving it to me I want to whatever and serving it to me I want to have the joy of sharing that with her have the joy of sharing that with her have the joy of sharing that with her all the love that went into it all the all the love that went into it all the all the love that went into it all the neurochemical you know Bliss chemicals neurochemical you know Bliss chemicals neurochemical you know Bliss chemicals that come up from sharing a meal in that come up from sharing a meal in that come up from sharing a meal in community so it's like how do we find community so it's like how do we find community so it's like how do we find the things that are going to stress the things that are going to stress the things that are going to stress stretch us you know the comfort zone stretch us you know the comfort zone stretch us you know the comfort zone your comfort zone is killing you is your comfort zone is killing you is your comfort zone is killing you is legitimately what's happening to us over legitimately what's happening to us over legitimately what's happening to us over time we are just getting so much more time we are just getting so much more time we are just getting so much more comfortable and so much more comfortable and so much more comfortable and so much more sedentary that it is killing us and what sedentary that it is killing us and what sedentary that it is killing us and what where can we find areas in our life that where can we find areas in our life that where can we find areas in our life that we're willing to kind of stretch and we're willing to kind of stretch and we're willing to kind of stretch and choose it as an adventure Dan Garner is choose it as an adventure Dan Garner is choose it as an adventure Dan Garner is a mentor of mine and he talks about some
11:00a mentor of mine and he talks about some a mentor of mine and he talks about some research and he's like look this is an research and he's like look this is an research and he's like look this is an unpopular opinion but here's the reality unpopular opinion but here's the reality unpopular opinion but here's the reality people come to me all the time at a 33y people come to me all the time at a 33y people come to me all the time at a 33y old woman come to me last week and say I old woman come to me last week and say I old woman come to me last week and say I guess it's all downhill from here I was guess it's all downhill from here I was guess it's all downhill from here I was like you are not allowed to say that like you are not allowed to say that like you are not allowed to say that like why do you think that but the like why do you think that but the like why do you think that but the reality is you know we have the ability reality is you know we have the ability reality is you know we have the ability to age gracefully and be mobile and do to age gracefully and be mobile and do to age gracefully and be mobile and do all these things and it just feels like all these things and it just feels like all these things and it just feels like stretching ourselves past our comfort stretching ourselves past our comfort stretching ourselves past our comfort zone is the way for us to expand and for zone is the way for us to expand and for zone is the way for us to expand and for us to live longer I just want to touch us to live longer I just want to touch us to live longer I just want to touch on huberman for a second that I think on huberman for a second that I think on huberman for a second that I think that I have some trouble with some of that I have some trouble with some of that I have some trouble with some of the things that he says and um I run it the things that he says and um I run it the things that he says and um I run it by my science board and they're like I by my science board and they're like I by my science board and they're like I don't know about that I mean I'm often don't know about that I mean I'm often don't know about that I mean I'm often wrong I often say things that people wrong I often say things that people wrong I often say things that people disagree with and I think pick your Guru disagree with and I think pick your Guru disagree with and I think pick your Guru carefully what I love about him is The carefully what I love about him is The carefully what I love about him is The Branding the science branding like yeah Branding the science branding like yeah Branding the science branding like yeah that's that's that's nice but the science is always changing nice but the science is always changing nice but the science is always changing this is what's cool right exactly but this is what's cool right exactly but this is what's cool right exactly but what's really interesting is I just what's really interesting is I just what's really interesting is I just listen to the podcast with Rick rubben
12:00listen to the podcast with Rick rubben listen to the podcast with Rick rubben and Jack Cruz and huberman and he's and Jack Cruz and huberman and he's and Jack Cruz and huberman and he's pretty humble solid man and I have had pretty humble solid man and I have had pretty humble solid man and I have had some interaction with him but I I also some interaction with him but I I also some interaction with him but I I also think the science is always changing and think the science is always changing and think the science is always changing and that's what cool is like there's the that's what cool is like there's the that's what cool is like there's the biohackers the one prime example I have biohackers the one prime example I have biohackers the one prime example I have is all the biohackers since the dawn of is all the biohackers since the dawn of is all the biohackers since the dawn of time since I've known were like oh your time since I've known were like oh your time since I've known were like oh your skin it has photo receptors just like skin it has photo receptors just like skin it has photo receptors just like your eyes and your This and like stand your eyes and your This and like stand your eyes and your This and like stand in the light and all a lot of that in the light and all a lot of that in the light and all a lot of that conversation was based on This research conversation was based on This research conversation was based on This research that was done on the back of the that was done on the back of the that was done on the back of the kneecaps of a bunch of people 20 years kneecaps of a bunch of people 20 years kneecaps of a bunch of people 20 years ago and was debunked relatively soon ago and was debunked relatively soon ago and was debunked relatively soon thereafter and then it was like okay thereafter and then it was like okay thereafter and then it was like okay that's not a real thing and then that's not a real thing and then that's not a real thing and then huberman does a big piece in one of his huberman does a big piece in one of his huberman does a big piece in one of his podcast saying there is no I wrote a podcast saying there is no I wrote a podcast saying there is no I wrote a post on it because I remember there's no post on it because I remember there's no post on it because I remember there's no extraocular photo receptivity extraocular photo receptivity extraocular photo receptivity extraocular I mean anything outside of extraocular I mean anything outside of extraocular I mean anything outside of your eyes there is no photo receptivity your eyes there is no photo receptivity your eyes there is no photo receptivity in the body and then he's on this in the body and then he's on this in the body and then he's on this podcast with Jack Cruz who's speaking podcast with Jack Cruz who's speaking podcast with Jack Cruz who's speaking about how he has spent 18 months digging about how he has spent 18 months digging about how he has spent 18 months digging up that we actually can emit light up that we actually can emit light up that we actually can emit light internally you want to hear more you can internally you want to hear more you can internally you want to hear more you can go to that podcast go to that podcast go to that podcast it's a cool it's interesting there is
13:00it's a cool it's interesting there is it's a cool it's interesting there is lots of science to like layer in there lots of science to like layer in there lots of science to like layer in there and unpack and hubman like has already and unpack and hubman like has already and unpack and hubman like has already corrected what he thinks is corrected corrected what he thinks is corrected corrected what he thinks is corrected and now he's another space where it's and now he's another space where it's and now he's another space where it's like oh actually there is extraocular like oh actually there is extraocular like oh actually there is extraocular capacity on the skin to be able to capacity on the skin to be able to capacity on the skin to be able to transmit light for other reasons right transmit light for other reasons right transmit light for other reasons right etc etc so the science is always etc etc so the science is always etc etc so the science is always changing we're all always learning and changing we're all always learning and changing we're all always learning and it's a big question of like how long are it's a big question of like how long are it's a big question of like how long are we going to listen and who wants to do we going to listen and who wants to do we going to listen and who wants to do that deep work but what is cool about that deep work but what is cool about that deep work but what is cool about him is that he's willing to do the work him is that he's willing to do the work him is that he's willing to do the work of diving into all of that because if of diving into all of that because if of diving into all of that because if you've read research papers you know you've read research papers you know you've read research papers you know they're not my jam they're not like my they're not my jam they're not like my they're not my jam they're not like my biggest joy in the world I'm so happy to biggest joy in the world I'm so happy to biggest joy in the world I'm so happy to have him be into that yeah all this have him be into that yeah all this have him be into that yeah all this stuff is really Dynamic and I think stuff is really Dynamic and I think stuff is really Dynamic and I think that's one of the things that people that's one of the things that people that's one of the things that people find quite frustrating because like we find quite frustrating because like we find quite frustrating because like we all know gravity doesn't change we know all know gravity doesn't change we know all know gravity doesn't change we know like if you drop a ball we know how fast like if you drop a ball we know how fast like if you drop a ball we know how fast it's going to go and when it's going to it's going to go and when it's going to it's going to go and when it's going to hit the ground when you get into biology hit the ground when you get into biology hit the ground when you get into biology especially human biology it's not like especially human biology it's not like especially human biology it's not like that stuff changes all the time so I
14:00that stuff changes all the time so I that stuff changes all the time so I want to sort of touch on this idea of want to sort of touch on this idea of want to sort of touch on this idea of you get back to the Comfort Zone idea you get back to the Comfort Zone idea you get back to the Comfort Zone idea and a lot of what is I'm just going to and a lot of what is I'm just going to and a lot of what is I'm just going to say socially acceptable as being say socially acceptable as being say socially acceptable as being comfortable is actually pretty comfortable is actually pretty comfortable is actually pretty self-destructive and how that it's not self-destructive and how that it's not self-destructive and how that it's not self-affirming at all it's considered self-affirming at all it's considered self-affirming at all it's considered okay and I you know I remember my you okay and I you know I remember my you okay and I you know I remember my you know my mom in the 60s used to smoke know my mom in the 60s used to smoke know my mom in the 60s used to smoke with the windows rolled up in the car with the windows rolled up in the car with the windows rolled up in the car with us kids wouldn't wear a seat belt with us kids wouldn't wear a seat belt with us kids wouldn't wear a seat belt because it wrinkled her dress and it was because it wrinkled her dress and it was because it wrinkled her dress and it was totally normal for people to have like a totally normal for people to have like a totally normal for people to have like a couple of martinis at lunch yeah like couple of martinis at lunch yeah like couple of martinis at lunch yeah like that was okay so thankfully that stuff's that was okay so thankfully that stuff's that was okay so thankfully that stuff's all no-o now I feel like the bar has all no-o now I feel like the bar has all no-o now I feel like the bar has sort of been lowered in a lot of ways sort of been lowered in a lot of ways sort of been lowered in a lot of ways that things are acceptable when maybe that things are acceptable when maybe that things are acceptable when maybe they they shouldn't be maybe there a they they shouldn't be maybe there a they they shouldn't be maybe there a short term you might feel better but in short term you might feel better but in short term you might feel better but in the long term like you're hurting the long term like you're hurting the long term like you're hurting yourself and I just saw someone so funny yourself and I just saw someone so funny yourself and I just saw someone so funny who said that I just red past a red who said that I just red past a red who said that I just red past a red light in La I just got back from LA light in La I just got back from LA light in La I just got back from LA yesterday and there was someone in their
15:00yesterday and there was someone in their yesterday and there was someone in their car windows rolled up smoking a Sig and car windows rolled up smoking a Sig and car windows rolled up smoking a Sig and I was like I drove by and literally said I was like I drove by and literally said I was like I drove by and literally said out loud are we really still doing that out loud are we really still doing that out loud are we really still doing that so those things are out there you know I so those things are out there you know I so those things are out there you know I I worked in the alcohol and Spirits I worked in the alcohol and Spirits I worked in the alcohol and Spirits industry consumer package Goods early on industry consumer package Goods early on industry consumer package Goods early on in a career a corporate career that I in a career a corporate career that I in a career a corporate career that I left I loved it it was interesting it left I loved it it was interesting it left I loved it it was interesting it was fun it was wonderful to see what was fun it was wonderful to see what was fun it was wonderful to see what companies were actually making alcohol companies were actually making alcohol companies were actually making alcohol even though it's not the healthiest even though it's not the healthiest even though it's not the healthiest thing in a in a in a sustainable or in thing in a in a in a sustainable or in thing in a in a in a sustainable or in at least a integrous way and what at least a integrous way and what at least a integrous way and what companies were just throwing stuff in companies were just throwing stuff in companies were just throwing stuff in bottles for people to drink um bottles for people to drink um bottles for people to drink um interesting how that the world of the interesting how that the world of the interesting how that the world of the marketing arm and I launched Red Bull in marketing arm and I launched Red Bull in marketing arm and I launched Red Bull in the United States with a great team of the United States with a great team of the United States with a great team of people and how that was like first people and how that was like first people and how that was like first functional beverage that was considered functional beverage that was considered functional beverage that was considered sort of healthy at that point right and sort of healthy at that point right and sort of healthy at that point right and now we might have different opinions but now we might have different opinions but now we might have different opinions but just learning and understanding the just learning and understanding the just learning and understanding the consumer landscape and psyche and how consumer landscape and psyche and how consumer landscape and psyche and how people adopted Brands and adopted what people adopted Brands and adopted what people adopted Brands and adopted what they put in their life gave me a they put in their life gave me a they put in their life gave me a different Vantage Point than the typical different Vantage Point than the typical different Vantage Point than the typical biohacker and and I don't want to poo biohacker and and I don't want to poo biohacker and and I don't want to poo alcohol and even as I like sit there alcohol and even as I like sit there alcohol and even as I like sit there with a bottle of like sustainable with a bottle of like sustainable with a bottle of like sustainable biodynamic G on my shelf I don't drink a biodynamic G on my shelf I don't drink a biodynamic G on my shelf I don't drink a lot anymore perhaps because I had plenty
16:00lot anymore perhaps because I had plenty lot anymore perhaps because I had plenty of alcohol in the days I worked in that of alcohol in the days I worked in that of alcohol in the days I worked in that industry but perhaps it just doesn't industry but perhaps it just doesn't industry but perhaps it just doesn't feel good in my body I will have feel good in my body I will have feel good in my body I will have vacational glass of wine I'm always vacational glass of wine I'm always vacational glass of wine I'm always making sure it's like from dry Farms or making sure it's like from dry Farms or making sure it's like from dry Farms or it's biodynamic Etc and that's beautiful it's biodynamic Etc and that's beautiful it's biodynamic Etc and that's beautiful once in a while around the holidays I'll once in a while around the holidays I'll once in a while around the holidays I'll have like a really well-crafted cocktail have like a really well-crafted cocktail have like a really well-crafted cocktail that's just like a decadent moment but I that's just like a decadent moment but I that's just like a decadent moment but I think there's still the drinking thing think there's still the drinking thing think there's still the drinking thing exists I'm talking to people who maybe exists I'm talking to people who maybe exists I'm talking to people who maybe are doing that to be able to Quil some are doing that to be able to Quil some are doing that to be able to Quil some stressors or get sleep at night and not stressors or get sleep at night and not stressors or get sleep at night and not realizing that the long-term effects of realizing that the long-term effects of realizing that the long-term effects of that aren't great I think another thing that aren't great I think another thing that aren't great I think another thing whether it's like cool to bring up or whether it's like cool to bring up or whether it's like cool to bring up or not I think the other thing that's not I think the other thing that's not I think the other thing that's happening is there's some shows happening is there's some shows happening is there's some shows unpacking this for men and I'm not sure unpacking this for men and I'm not sure unpacking this for men and I'm not sure it's as prevalent for women it's out it's as prevalent for women it's out it's as prevalent for women it's out there the masturbation thing is a thing there the masturbation thing is a thing there the masturbation thing is a thing this self-satisfaction I can get this self-satisfaction I can get this self-satisfaction I can get anything delivered via the internet via anything delivered via the internet via anything delivered via the internet via Amazon via anything anytime I want to be Amazon via anything anytime I want to be Amazon via anything anytime I want to be able to create some level of able to create some level of able to create some level of satisfaction that is like removing us satisfaction that is like removing us satisfaction that is like removing us from having deep connection with each from having deep connection with each from having deep connection with each other and there are things out there other and there are things out there other and there are things out there that are like you know they're the Quick that are like you know they're the Quick that are like you know they're the Quick Fix and America is well known for that Fix and America is well known for that Fix and America is well known for that the Quick Fix of you know various
17:00the Quick Fix of you know various the Quick Fix of you know various products or super sizing things and products or super sizing things and products or super sizing things and there is something about the patience of there is something about the patience of there is something about the patience of I don't know if you're a dune fan but I don't know if you're a dune fan but I don't know if you're a dune fan but there's a word in Dune David that's there's a word in Dune David that's there's a word in Dune David that's called Spanos spogen they like use it in called Spanos spogen they like use it in called Spanos spogen they like use it in the early Dune film or book or something the early Dune film or book or something the early Dune film or book or something and it's really about the joy of the and it's really about the joy of the and it's really about the joy of the waiting it's really like the joy of the waiting it's really like the joy of the waiting it's really like the joy of the journey but the beauty and sort of journey but the beauty and sort of journey but the beauty and sort of waiting to get something actually makes waiting to get something actually makes waiting to get something actually makes it that much sweeter and so that's a lot it that much sweeter and so that's a lot it that much sweeter and so that's a lot of the stuff that I think we put down of the stuff that I think we put down of the stuff that I think we put down when we're like hitting on our dopamine when we're like hitting on our dopamine when we're like hitting on our dopamine iPhone and all that yeah I'd love to be iPhone and all that yeah I'd love to be iPhone and all that yeah I'd love to be able to see that change and some of what able to see that change and some of what able to see that change and some of what I'm hoping I'm doing with the breath I'm hoping I'm doing with the breath I'm hoping I'm doing with the breath work and cold exposure space work and cold exposure space work and cold exposure space specifically and some of the female specifically and some of the female specifically and some of the female biohacking of course my one-on-one biohacking of course my one-on-one biohacking of course my one-on-one clients and group programs and all that clients and group programs and all that clients and group programs and all that is hopefully unpacking that a bit so we is hopefully unpacking that a bit so we is hopefully unpacking that a bit so we can find ways to be in community and can find ways to be in community and can find ways to be in community and share that hey this is a long-term goal share that hey this is a long-term goal share that hey this is a long-term goal let's bolster it with some short-term let's bolster it with some short-term let's bolster it with some short-term goals together and let's celebrate don't goals together and let's celebrate don't goals together and let's celebrate don't celebrate ourselves enough when we have celebrate ourselves enough when we have celebrate ourselves enough when we have small small small wins our plates are full people people wins our plates are full people people wins our plates are full people people are stressed to the max really I'm
18:00are stressed to the max really I'm are stressed to the max really I'm feeling it are you feeling that lately a feeling it are you feeling that lately a feeling it are you feeling that lately a lot of hormonal imbalance a lot of lot of hormonal imbalance a lot of lot of hormonal imbalance a lot of conversation about my hormones are out conversation about my hormones are out conversation about my hormones are out of whack they're imbalanced I'm not of whack they're imbalanced I'm not of whack they're imbalanced I'm not sleeping well I'm stressed out and I sleeping well I'm stressed out and I sleeping well I'm stressed out and I just I did a solo episode on this just I did a solo episode on this just I did a solo episode on this mineral that is so so important it is mineral that is so so important it is mineral that is so so important it is game-changing to help you feel your best game-changing to help you feel your best game-changing to help you feel your best and that's magnesium so you can go and that's magnesium so you can go and that's magnesium so you can go listen to that solo s and the reality is listen to that solo s and the reality is listen to that solo s and the reality is magnesium is an absolute must for magnesium is an absolute must for magnesium is an absolute must for keeping your hormones balanced and your keeping your hormones balanced and your keeping your hormones balanced and your body functioning optimally most of us body functioning optimally most of us body functioning optimally most of us are not getting enough of it from our are not getting enough of it from our are not getting enough of it from our diets alone and that's why I'm here to diets alone and that's why I'm here to diets alone and that's why I'm here to remind you yes you need to take a remind you yes you need to take a remind you yes you need to take a supplement and yes the one that I take supplement and yes the one that I take supplement and yes the one that I take is bi optimizers magnesium breakthrough is bi optimizers magnesium breakthrough is bi optimizers magnesium breakthrough and it is by far the best I've been and it is by far the best I've been and it is by far the best I've been using it personally for six years I use using it personally for six years I use using it personally for six years I use it with all of my clients it is so so it with all of my clients it is so so it with all of my clients it is so so important because it has seven different important because it has seven different important because it has seven different types of magnesium the best ones all in types of magnesium the best ones all in types of magnesium the best ones all in one capsule now I'm taking two at night one capsule now I'm taking two at night one capsule now I'm taking two at night before I go to sleep because I got a before I go to sleep because I got a before I go to sleep because I got a little extra stress going on but when little extra stress going on but when little extra stress going on but when you manage your sleep your digestive you manage your sleep your digestive you manage your sleep your digestive health and your stress your hormones can
19:00health and your stress your hormones can health and your stress your hormones can rebalance so I want you to support your rebalance so I want you to support your rebalance so I want you to support your system by using magnesium Breakthrough system by using magnesium Breakthrough system by using magnesium Breakthrough by bioptimizers bioptimizers Doom b i o by bioptimizers bioptimizers Doom b i o by bioptimizers bioptimizers Doom b i o PT m i z PT m i z PT m i z rs.com wellpower or you can use the code rs.com wellpower or you can use the code rs.com wellpower or you can use the code wellow 10 to save a little money to wellow 10 to save a little money to wellow 10 to save a little money to support this podcast and mostly to support this podcast and mostly to support this podcast and mostly to support your hormone balance your sleep support your hormone balance your sleep support your hormone balance your sleep and your stress by optimizers dcom check and your stress by optimizers dcom check and your stress by optimizers dcom check it out let's talk about some of the male it out let's talk about some of the male it out let's talk about some of the male female differences out there I mean I've female differences out there I mean I've female differences out there I mean I've I've read that I've read that I've read that uh fasting for women is maybe is uh fasting for women is maybe is uh fasting for women is maybe is different for men in that there's a different for men in that there's a different for men in that there's a cortisol response are you seeing so I cortisol response are you seeing so I cortisol response are you seeing so I know that you do a lot of voluntary cold know that you do a lot of voluntary cold know that you do a lot of voluntary cold exposure yeah putting people into ice exposure yeah putting people into ice exposure yeah putting people into ice baths are there differences there are baths are there differences there are baths are there differences there are there gender differences for in in the there gender differences for in in the there gender differences for in in the physiology with that the answer is yes physiology with that the answer is yes physiology with that the answer is yes the short answer is yes H women are the short answer is yes H women are the short answer is yes H women are different than men neurochemically um my different than men neurochemically um my different than men neurochemically um my friend Kayla um is a a neurobiologist friend Kayla um is a a neurobiologist friend Kayla um is a a neurobiologist does similar research to what Andrew
20:00does similar research to what Andrew does similar research to what Andrew hberman does but does it really in the hberman does but does it really in the hberman does but does it really in the in the landscape of women women in the in the landscape of women women in the in the landscape of women women in the research Women's Health um we still research Women's Health um we still research Women's Health um we still don't have enough research on the female don't have enough research on the female don't have enough research on the female physiology believe it or not it's not physiology believe it or not it's not physiology believe it or not it's not expanding enough or quickly enough it is expanding enough or quickly enough it is expanding enough or quickly enough it is better but it's not much better truth be better but it's not much better truth be better but it's not much better truth be told we still have a lot to learn um but told we still have a lot to learn um but told we still have a lot to learn um but there are differences in our there are differences in our there are differences in our neurochemistry genetically and obviously neurochemistry genetically and obviously neurochemistry genetically and obviously you know our our sex as where the sex you know our our sex as where the sex you know our our sex as where the sex we're born in is makes us different for we're born in is makes us different for we're born in is makes us different for fasting uh Mindy pels is a great fasting uh Mindy pels is a great fasting uh Mindy pels is a great resource I love her work she she has a resource I love her work she she has a resource I love her work she she has a book called fast like a girl um I've book called fast like a girl um I've book called fast like a girl um I've interviewed her on my podcast and really interviewed her on my podcast and really interviewed her on my podcast and really I've interviewed Dave asrey on my I've interviewed Dave asrey on my I've interviewed Dave asrey on my podcast talking about this I tend to be podcast talking about this I tend to be podcast talking about this I tend to be a bit more conservative on fasting for a bit more conservative on fasting for a bit more conservative on fasting for women now it's potentially slightly women now it's potentially slightly women now it's potentially slightly easier and more supportive in menopausal easier and more supportive in menopausal easier and more supportive in menopausal years but during reproductive years years but during reproductive years years but during reproductive years especially given the way women are especially given the way women are especially given the way women are trying to conceive now how much more trying to conceive now how much more trying to conceive now how much more challenging fertility can be in people's challenging fertility can be in people's challenging fertility can be in people's lives I just I'm like we got enough lives I just I'm like we got enough lives I just I'm like we got enough hormone imbalance as it is how do we hormone imbalance as it is how do we hormone imbalance as it is how do we find a way to if we're going to fast find a way to if we're going to fast find a way to if we're going to fast fast conservatively fast as females
21:00fast conservatively fast as females fast conservatively fast as females maybe it's not everyday maybe it's not maybe it's not everyday maybe it's not maybe it's not everyday maybe it's not like go hard jao willink David goggin like go hard jao willink David goggin like go hard jao willink David goggin like love going to do that maybe we find like love going to do that maybe we find like love going to do that maybe we find a way to balance our power with our a way to balance our power with our a way to balance our power with our sensitivity as women and we actually say sensitivity as women and we actually say sensitivity as women and we actually say okay cool every other day I'm going to okay cool every other day I'm going to okay cool every other day I'm going to do a fast or I'm not going to do like a do a fast or I'm not going to do like a do a fast or I'm not going to do like a 12 hours or 15 hours I'm gonna do 12 hours or 15 hours I'm gonna do 12 hours or 15 hours I'm gonna do shorter fasts and I actually prefer even shorter fasts and I actually prefer even shorter fasts and I actually prefer even like I think you want to do a a longer like I think you want to do a a longer like I think you want to do a a longer fast it's like 24 36 hours something fast it's like 24 36 hours something fast it's like 24 36 hours something like that for longevity great do that like that for longevity great do that like that for longevity great do that once a quarter and then build fasting in once a quarter and then build fasting in once a quarter and then build fasting in a way that supports you many many women a way that supports you many many women a way that supports you many many women are doing the thing where they don't eat are doing the thing where they don't eat are doing the thing where they don't eat till 1:00 and it's just like letin grin till 1:00 and it's just like letin grin till 1:00 and it's just like letin grin cortisol all of these hormones are like cortisol all of these hormones are like cortisol all of these hormones are like what I'm not sure what's going on and what I'm not sure what's going on and what I'm not sure what's going on and absolutist thinking isn't going to get absolutist thinking isn't going to get absolutist thinking isn't going to get us anywhere I'm not on the podcast to us anywhere I'm not on the podcast to us anywhere I'm not on the podcast to say hey women don't fast it's never like say hey women don't fast it's never like say hey women don't fast it's never like that we're all bioindividual and that's that we're all bioindividual and that's that we're all bioindividual and that's what makes this conversation so what makes this conversation so what makes this conversation so beautiful and also so challenging is beautiful and also so challenging is beautiful and also so challenging is somebody listening to this could be an somebody listening to this could be an somebody listening to this could be an optimal candidate to try a little optimal candidate to try a little optimal candidate to try a little fasting for a while but my shortish fasting for a while but my shortish fasting for a while but my shortish answer to miles is be I'm more answer to miles is be I'm more answer to miles is be I'm more conservative I think you should be more
22:00conservative I think you should be more conservative I think you should be more conservative especially if you are in conservative especially if you are in conservative especially if you are in your reproductive years and you have any your reproductive years and you have any your reproductive years and you have any kind of hormonal imbalance it's kind of kind of hormonal imbalance it's kind of kind of hormonal imbalance it's kind of where I sit and then Mindy talks a lot where I sit and then Mindy talks a lot where I sit and then Mindy talks a lot about the best time for women to fast about the best time for women to fast about the best time for women to fast actually is when they get their period actually is when they get their period actually is when they get their period because it's sort of the low hormone because it's sort of the low hormone because it's sort of the low hormone phase and the low hormone phase is we're phase and the low hormone phase is we're phase and the low hormone phase is we're a bit more normalized we're not going to a bit more normalized we're not going to a bit more normalized we're not going to fluctuate so much and so we can really fluctuate so much and so we can really fluctuate so much and so we can really we actually have less hunger signal we actually have less hunger signal we actually have less hunger signal signaling going on in the body whereas signaling going on in the body whereas signaling going on in the body whereas like the days leading up to our period like the days leading up to our period like the days leading up to our period we're like I'm always like snacking and we're like I'm always like snacking and we're like I'm always like snacking and salt and chocolate you know I have other salt and chocolate you know I have other salt and chocolate you know I have other Cravings that are coming up so really Cravings that are coming up so really Cravings that are coming up so really finding the right times in the cycle to finding the right times in the cycle to finding the right times in the cycle to be able to fast also can make all the be able to fast also can make all the be able to fast also can make all the difference and and similarly there's difference and and similarly there's difference and and similarly there's other things in the landscape um of other things in the landscape um of other things in the landscape um of women's health that we can adjust talk women's health that we can adjust talk women's health that we can adjust talk to me about the cold cold and male to me about the cold cold and male to me about the cold cold and male female differences yeah so we find pun female differences yeah so we find pun female differences yeah so we find pun attendant about research with cold can attendant about research with cold can attendant about research with cold can you imagine this just for a moment that you imagine this just for a moment that you imagine this just for a moment that some of the research is like my left arm some of the research is like my left arm some of the research is like my left arm in a cold tub of ice that is X number of
23:00in a cold tub of ice that is X number of in a cold tub of ice that is X number of degrees a lot of the research is above degrees a lot of the research is above degrees a lot of the research is above 50 degrees some of it is men some is 50 degrees some of it is men some is 50 degrees some of it is men some is women some is whole body some is a women some is whole body some is a women some is whole body some is a minimal amount is cryo some of it is minimal amount is cryo some of it is minimal amount is cryo some of it is immersion some of it is pre-training immersion some of it is pre-training immersion some of it is pre-training posttraining it's all over the map when posttraining it's all over the map when posttraining it's all over the map when it comes to time and temperature and it comes to time and temperature and it comes to time and temperature and body parts or full immersion and what we body parts or full immersion and what we body parts or full immersion and what we do see just anecdotally and in some of do see just anecdotally and in some of do see just anecdotally and in some of the research is that it tends to be that the research is that it tends to be that the research is that it tends to be that male the male hormone cycle it's a bit male the male hormone cycle it's a bit male the male hormone cycle it's a bit more of a 24-hour clock and men tend to more of a 24-hour clock and men tend to more of a 24-hour clock and men tend to do better and are pretty okay with like do better and are pretty okay with like do better and are pretty okay with like I'm just going to plunge every day cold I'm just going to plunge every day cold I'm just going to plunge every day cold exposure every day all the things exposure every day all the things exposure every day all the things beautiful again that's a generalization beautiful again that's a generalization beautiful again that's a generalization surely there are men out there who have surely there are men out there who have surely there are men out there who have some predisposition or some disease some predisposition or some disease some predisposition or some disease State that's not a great idea and for State that's not a great idea and for State that's not a great idea and for women I'm a little bit more conservative women I'm a little bit more conservative women I'm a little bit more conservative I have the females I work with not I have the females I work with not I have the females I work with not plunging every day now I did a 30-day plunging every day now I did a 30-day plunging every day now I did a 30-day ice bath challenge ice plunge challenge ice bath challenge ice plunge challenge ice bath challenge ice plunge challenge in the beginning of this year and people in the beginning of this year and people in the beginning of this year and people were like oh my God Christ and you're were like oh my God Christ and you're were like oh my God Christ and you're doing 30 days of cold and I'm like Hey doing 30 days of cold and I'm like Hey doing 30 days of cold and I'm like Hey listen some days I'm doing cold showers listen some days I'm doing cold showers listen some days I'm doing cold showers definitely not as um high of a dresser definitely not as um high of a dresser definitely not as um high of a dresser as a cold tub full immersion so and and
24:00as a cold tub full immersion so and and as a cold tub full immersion so and and I'm doing cold every day and you know I'm doing cold every day and you know I'm doing cold every day and you know what it's 30 days in a row and it's with what it's 30 days in a row and it's with what it's 30 days in a row and it's with the community and it's beautiful and I'm the community and it's beautiful and I'm the community and it's beautiful and I'm stoked about it am I going to do it 365 stoked about it am I going to do it 365 stoked about it am I going to do it 365 days a year no so when I have access and days a year no so when I have access and days a year no so when I have access and availability sure I might be up at an availability sure I might be up at an availability sure I might be up at an ice hole in Canada in the most beautiful ice hole in Canada in the most beautiful ice hole in Canada in the most beautiful landscape with stars at night and I can landscape with stars at night and I can landscape with stars at night and I can get in that icehole twice a day every get in that icehole twice a day every get in that icehole twice a day every day for three days cool I'm going to do day for three days cool I'm going to do day for three days cool I'm going to do it because I love it because it changes it because I love it because it changes it because I love it because it changes me as a person and also I'm not going to me as a person and also I'm not going to me as a person and also I'm not going to like beat it up definitely that and also like beat it up definitely that and also like beat it up definitely that and also women will come all the time and say oh women will come all the time and say oh women will come all the time and say oh I have my period I can't get in the cold I have my period I can't get in the cold I have my period I can't get in the cold today and my question is always well I today and my question is always well I today and my question is always well I respect consent and their boundaries and respect consent and their boundaries and respect consent and their boundaries and if they're a hard no that's fine I if they're a hard no that's fine I if they're a hard no that's fine I always ask the question you know is it always ask the question you know is it always ask the question you know is it the like chicken and the brat on your the like chicken and the brat on your the like chicken and the brat on your shoulder or is it really the period shoulder or is it really the period shoulder or is it really the period thing or like what's that about right if thing or like what's that about right if thing or like what's that about right if it's a cultural thing okay but there it's a cultural thing okay but there it's a cultural thing okay but there really isn't any research to say there's really isn't any research to say there's really isn't any research to say there's a bad time of the cycle I will say that a bad time of the cycle I will say that a bad time of the cycle I will say that the few days leading up to our period we the few days leading up to our period we the few days leading up to our period we are like have a lower pen threshold are like have a lower pen threshold are like have a lower pen threshold we're way more sensitive emotional we're way more sensitive emotional we're way more sensitive emotional physical to stress in general um
25:00physical to stress in general um physical to stress in general um sometimes our sleep suffers more during sometimes our sleep suffers more during sometimes our sleep suffers more during that part of the cycle so maybe I'm not that part of the cycle so maybe I'm not that part of the cycle so maybe I'm not going to like power through five days of going to like power through five days of going to like power through five days of ice bass as a female leading up to my ice bass as a female leading up to my ice bass as a female leading up to my period again sometimes we feel period again sometimes we feel period again sometimes we feel heightened emotional states maybe some heightened emotional states maybe some heightened emotional states maybe some women have PMS and there is something to women have PMS and there is something to women have PMS and there is something to be said for two minutes in cold water be said for two minutes in cold water be said for two minutes in cold water immersion during that time to like reset immersion during that time to like reset immersion during that time to like reset your nervous system have a good cry your nervous system have a good cry your nervous system have a good cry after any of those things and so there's after any of those things and so there's after any of those things and so there's no perfect answer but there are no perfect answer but there are no perfect answer but there are definitely watch outs for all the women definitely watch outs for all the women definitely watch outs for all the women or any women and females that are or any women and females that are or any women and females that are listening to this right now I really listening to this right now I really listening to this right now I really encourage you to really dive into like encourage you to really dive into like encourage you to really dive into like what the thing is that is your intuition what the thing is that is your intuition what the thing is that is your intuition because that helps drive us right and I because that helps drive us right and I because that helps drive us right and I don't mean I had an intuitive hit that I don't mean I had an intuitive hit that I don't mean I had an intuitive hit that I had to go eat the whole pizza because had to go eat the whole pizza because had to go eat the whole pizza because that's prob probably like a food craving that's prob probably like a food craving that's prob probably like a food craving or like you know food you know you're or like you know food you know you're or like you know food you know you're soothing yourself self soothing tactic soothing yourself self soothing tactic soothing yourself self soothing tactic because women will say that to me I just because women will say that to me I just because women will say that to me I just felt like I had the intuitive hit I just felt like I had the intuitive hit I just felt like I had the intuitive hit I just needed to do like ice cream and pizza needed to do like ice cream and pizza needed to do like ice cream and pizza last night I'm like okay cool like what last night I'm like okay cool like what last night I'm like okay cool like what are you going to do let's start again are you going to do let's start again are you going to do let's start again today but yeah so ice bath I think today but yeah so ice bath I think today but yeah so ice bath I think intuition is important and also do the
26:00intuition is important and also do the intuition is important and also do the hard thing I put so many bodies in the hard thing I put so many bodies in the hard thing I put so many bodies in the cold David So Many Bodies of so many cold David So Many Bodies of so many cold David So Many Bodies of so many different kinds and I see the thing that different kinds and I see the thing that different kinds and I see the thing that I want to say about cold exposure and I want to say about cold exposure and I want to say about cold exposure and ice bath and cold plunging and whatever ice bath and cold plunging and whatever ice bath and cold plunging and whatever we want to call it I call it intentional we want to call it I call it intentional we want to call it I call it intentional cold exposure not just because it is ice cold exposure not just because it is ice cold exposure not just because it is ice as abbreviation but because we have an as abbreviation but because we have an as abbreviation but because we have an intention we can set or a context which intention we can set or a context which intention we can set or a context which to me is the missing link in cold that to me is the missing link in cold that to me is the missing link in cold that no one talks about what is your context no one talks about what is your context no one talks about what is your context like what are your goals it's always like what are your goals it's always like what are your goals it's always going to be a different protocol but the going to be a different protocol but the going to be a different protocol but the thing for me is like how do we decide thing for me is like how do we decide thing for me is like how do we decide we're going to take the leap and do we're going to take the leap and do we're going to take the leap and do something challenging you know and build something challenging you know and build something challenging you know and build it into our our repertoire and know that it into our our repertoire and know that it into our our repertoire and know that we have that capacity because what I get we have that capacity because what I get we have that capacity because what I get to see with someone in three minutes in to see with someone in three minutes in to see with someone in three minutes in an ice bath I get to see the microcosm an ice bath I get to see the microcosm an ice bath I get to see the microcosm of how they respond to stress and how of how they respond to stress and how of how they respond to stress and how they behave in the world for their they behave in the world for their they behave in the world for their entire lives and that could sound like entire lives and that could sound like entire lives and that could sound like super woo to you but that's really what super woo to you but that's really what super woo to you but that's really what you see it's amazing to be able to do you see it's amazing to be able to do you see it's amazing to be able to do that work our travel writer lives on on that work our travel writer lives on on that work our travel writer lives on on the North Fork of Long Island at the end
27:00the North Fork of Long Island at the end the North Fork of Long Island at the end and she swims in the North and she swims in the North and she swims in the North Atlantic Atlantic Atlantic 365 and so that water she describes it 365 and so that water she describes it 365 and so that water she describes it as it becomes gelatinous at about 30 as it becomes gelatinous at about 30 as it becomes gelatinous at about 30 degrees Yeah in order to do that and degrees Yeah in order to do that and degrees Yeah in order to do that and she's out for like 20 minutes it's not she's out for like 20 minutes it's not she's out for like 20 minutes it's not three yeah but she's us cold swimming three yeah but she's us cold swimming three yeah but she's us cold swimming she's Cold Water Swimming it's like you she's Cold Water Swimming it's like you she's Cold Water Swimming it's like you you you have to adapt to be able to do you you have to adapt to be able to do you you have to adapt to be able to do that your body like dizzy fluctuations that your body like dizzy fluctuations that your body like dizzy fluctuations like let's be clear you can ground yeah like let's be clear you can ground yeah like let's be clear you can ground yeah it's like not that anyone should be just it's like not that anyone should be just it's like not that anyone should be just doing that like willy-nilly hey let me doing that like willy-nilly hey let me doing that like willy-nilly hey let me start tomorrow put down the dut and go start tomorrow put down the dut and go start tomorrow put down the dut and go to the 20 minute swimming but it's also to the 20 minute swimming but it's also to the 20 minute swimming but it's also awesome right it's like it's something a awesome right it's like it's something a awesome right it's like it's something a skill that she's learned and adapted to skill that she's learned and adapted to skill that she's learned and adapted to when we um I live in Park City most of when we um I live in Park City most of when we um I live in Park City most of the time and in the winter um the pool the time and in the winter um the pool the time and in the winter um the pool one of the pools at the gym I go to one of the pools at the gym I go to one of the pools at the gym I go to freezes and so what we learned was if freezes and so what we learned was if freezes and so what we learned was if you start going in about October by you you start going in about October by you you start going in about October by you know end of November it's ice on top and know end of November it's ice on top and know end of November it's ice on top and you break the ice and you go in you break the ice and you go in you break the ice and you go in I've only I think I've managed that for
28:00I've only I think I've managed that for I've only I think I've managed that for I don't know how cold that water is it's I don't know how cold that water is it's I don't know how cold that water is it's somewhere around freezing I can do you somewhere around freezing I can do you somewhere around freezing I can do you know I'll do about a minute and that know I'll do about a minute and that know I'll do about a minute and that just becomes it just becomes like too just becomes it just becomes like too just becomes it just becomes like too painful on my hands and my feet it's painful on my hands and my feet it's painful on my hands and my feet it's like I gotta get out of here my favorite like I gotta get out of here my favorite like I gotta get out of here my favorite is the circulating cold tub at about 40 is the circulating cold tub at about 40 is the circulating cold tub at about 40 so that I'm good again hands and feet so that I'm good again hands and feet so that I'm good again hands and feet out because they just like hurt too much out because they just like hurt too much out because they just like hurt too much but then this sort of the the initial but then this sort of the the initial but then this sort of the the initial like 20 or 30 seconds is just so like 20 or 30 seconds is just so like 20 or 30 seconds is just so unpleasant and I just have to tell unpleasant and I just have to tell unpleasant and I just have to tell myself like you're not going to die it's myself like you're not going to die it's myself like you're not going to die it's okay you're not going to die it's all okay you're not going to die it's all okay you're not going to die it's all right you know just sort of calm down right you know just sort of calm down right you know just sort of calm down try and like reduce your tendency to try and like reduce your tendency to try and like reduce your tendency to hyperventilate here it's going to be hyperventilate here it's going to be hyperventilate here it's going to be okay I personally I do it for two okay I personally I do it for two okay I personally I do it for two reasons one to tell myself that you did reasons one to tell myself that you did reasons one to tell myself that you did it it's like okay you're G you can do it it's like okay you're G you can do it it's like okay you're G you can do this really initially unpleasant thing this really initially unpleasant thing this really initially unpleasant thing and then when I get out oh my god do I and then when I get out oh my god do I and then when I get out oh my god do I feel smart I just feel like like so on feel smart I just feel like like so on feel smart I just feel like like so on and yeah that's I mean that's why I know
29:00and yeah that's I mean that's why I know and yeah that's I mean that's why I know like in park in Park City so it's I mean like in park in Park City so it's I mean like in park in Park City so it's I mean it's cold there in the winter but I it's cold there in the winter but I it's cold there in the winter but I can't tell you how many people have can't tell you how many people have can't tell you how many people have outdoor cold plunges like it's like a outdoor cold plunges like it's like a outdoor cold plunges like it's like a thing it is a thing well yeah I'm so thing it is a thing well yeah I'm so thing it is a thing well yeah I'm so excited that it's a thing every day excited that it's a thing every day excited that it's a thing every day somebody calls me every day someone somebody calls me every day someone somebody calls me every day someone calls me or DMS me and says what Ice calls me or DMS me and says what Ice calls me or DMS me and says what Ice Fest should I buy every day or or how Fest should I buy every day or or how Fest should I buy every day or or how long or what kind of time or what are long or what kind of time or what are long or what kind of time or what are the best ones market and I'm like this the best ones market and I'm like this the best ones market and I'm like this is a call I can't just DM you three is a call I can't just DM you three is a call I can't just DM you three answers this is a call and it's a Blog answers this is a call and it's a Blog answers this is a call and it's a Blog and it's a whole you know it's a whole and it's a whole you know it's a whole and it's a whole you know it's a whole thing but it's I'm super thankful that thing but it's I'm super thankful that thing but it's I'm super thankful that it's coming back into fashion I guess it's coming back into fashion I guess it's coming back into fashion I guess that's what we say I don't know it's that's what we say I don't know it's that's what we say I don't know it's like coming back cuz nobody alive on the like coming back cuz nobody alive on the like coming back cuz nobody alive on the planet right it's the first person to be planet right it's the first person to be planet right it's the first person to be doing like breath work or cold exposure doing like breath work or cold exposure doing like breath work or cold exposure people have been doing this for people have been doing this for people have been doing this for thousands of years and I'm so excited thousands of years and I'm so excited thousands of years and I'm so excited about it and that first those first about it and that first those first about it and that first those first moments of the the plunge or the dip or moments of the the plunge or the dip or moments of the the plunge or the dip or the cold bath you're doing are so the cold bath you're doing are so the cold bath you're doing are so important for us to like what a important for us to like what a important for us to like what a beautiful body that we live in that it beautiful body that we live in that it beautiful body that we live in that it goes stop get out I want to save you goes stop get out I want to save you goes stop get out I want to save you like how how like how how like how how how beautiful that we have that this is
30:00how beautiful that we have that this is how beautiful that we have that this is why I do this work I don't have some uh why I do this work I don't have some uh why I do this work I don't have some uh preconceived notion that I've set up I preconceived notion that I've set up I preconceived notion that I've set up I don't necess or maybe but I I don't have don't necess or maybe but I I don't have don't necess or maybe but I I don't have any genetic issues I don't have any any genetic issues I don't have any any genetic issues I don't have any Contra indications I don't have anything Contra indications I don't have anything Contra indications I don't have anything to have this be any different but I've to have this be any different but I've to have this be any different but I've quite honestly never had a thing where quite honestly never had a thing where quite honestly never had a thing where I'm like I get in and I'm like this is I'm like I get in and I'm like this is I'm like I get in and I'm like this is awful or this is painful or I hate this awful or this is painful or I hate this awful or this is painful or I hate this I've just never had that it's probably I've just never had that it's probably I've just never had that it's probably why I do the work and I I I talked a lot why I do the work and I I I talked a lot why I do the work and I I I talked a lot about this this training I just came off about this this training I just came off about this this training I just came off of it's like there was a younger woman of it's like there was a younger woman of it's like there was a younger woman who went in maybe 21 on our volunteer who went in maybe 21 on our volunteer who went in maybe 21 on our volunteer day because all the coaches get a day because all the coaches get a day because all the coaches get a volunteer so they get to coach someone volunteer so they get to coach someone volunteer so they get to coach someone they don't know at the end of the they don't know at the end of the they don't know at the end of the weekend and she was like I'm so excited weekend and she was like I'm so excited weekend and she was like I'm so excited for this I stayed up last night a little for this I stayed up last night a little for this I stayed up last night a little late and I watched all these Tik Tok late and I watched all these Tik Tok late and I watched all these Tik Tok videos of all these people ice plunging videos of all these people ice plunging videos of all these people ice plunging to see how they were doing it and their to see how they were doing it and their to see how they were doing it and their response and what she what she response and what she what she response and what she what she essentially was doing was like essentially was doing was like essentially was doing was like visualization and she came in the next visualization and she came in the next visualization and she came in the next day and I was like it's your first ice day and I was like it's your first ice day and I was like it's your first ice bath how how you feeling she's like I'm bath how how you feeling she's like I'm bath how how you feeling she's like I'm so excited I'm all in I watch these so excited I'm all in I watch these so excited I'm all in I watch these videos I'm ready and she know it she got videos I'm ready and she know it she got videos I'm ready and she know it she got in and she like had a beautiful time and in and she like had a beautiful time and in and she like had a beautiful time and experience was it hard for her yes was experience was it hard for her yes was experience was it hard for her yes was it challenging and you know to her
31:00it challenging and you know to her it challenging and you know to her physiology of course did she get in and physiology of course did she get in and physiology of course did she get in and have a big smile on her face and just have a big smile on her face and just have a big smile on her face and just rock it like it was almost easy yeah and rock it like it was almost easy yeah and rock it like it was almost easy yeah and this is like you can watch someone who's this is like you can watch someone who's this is like you can watch someone who's like doing you know powerlifting or like doing you know powerlifting or like doing you know powerlifting or gonna do some CrossFit Games or gonna do some CrossFit Games or gonna do some CrossFit Games or something and you can see how the lift something and you can see how the lift something and you can see how the lift is going to go then they're 10 feet away is going to go then they're 10 feet away is going to go then they're 10 feet away approaching the bar it's like the approaching the bar it's like the approaching the bar it's like the approach is everything and it's like how approach is everything and it's like how approach is everything and it's like how I when I first was training I I I was in I when I first was training I I I was in I when I first was training I I I was in I xpt certified I trained with L lar and I xpt certified I trained with L lar and I xpt certified I trained with L lar and Gabby at their house and then took the Gabby at their house and then took the Gabby at their house and then took the certification for coaches and that's lar certification for coaches and that's lar certification for coaches and that's lar Hamilton and Gabby Reese I always forget Hamilton and Gabby Reese I always forget Hamilton and Gabby Reese I always forget to think every I think everyone knows to think every I think everyone knows to think every I think everyone knows who they are but they're amazing who they are but they're amazing who they are but they're amazing athletes and I was like I couldn't keep athletes and I was like I couldn't keep athletes and I was like I couldn't keep up with it was a whole two-day up with it was a whole two-day up with it was a whole two-day experience where I was doing my very experience where I was doing my very experience where I was doing my very best but it was sort of evident that I best but it was sort of evident that I best but it was sort of evident that I was the weakest link lots of was the weakest link lots of was the weakest link lots of professional athlete Vibes or like professional athlete Vibes or like professional athlete Vibes or like retired athletes at their house and I'm retired athletes at their house and I'm retired athletes at their house and I'm like oh weights in the pool 11 feet down like oh weights in the pool 11 feet down like oh weights in the pool 11 feet down there's thankfully like a master scuba there's thankfully like a master scuba there's thankfully like a master scuba diver sitting on the floor of the pool diver sitting on the floor of the pool diver sitting on the floor of the pool for like safety it's real deal and you for like safety it's real deal and you for like safety it's real deal and you know is insane like in the most know is insane like in the most know is insane like in the most beautiful way he's like jumping off the
32:00beautiful way he's like jumping off the beautiful way he's like jumping off the sauna jumping into the pool weats and sauna jumping into the pool weats and sauna jumping into the pool weats and I'm like I'm having moments coming up I'm like I'm having moments coming up I'm like I'm having moments coming up from weighted workout at the bottom of from weighted workout at the bottom of from weighted workout at the bottom of 11 feet and attempting things where I'm 11 feet and attempting things where I'm 11 feet and attempting things where I'm coming up being like thankfully we're in coming up being like thankfully we're in coming up being like thankfully we're in a pool because I got some tears in my a pool because I got some tears in my a pool because I got some tears in my eyes you know no one can see that I'm eyes you know no one can see that I'm eyes you know no one can see that I'm like you know I'm nervous I'm trying to like you know I'm nervous I'm trying to like you know I'm nervous I'm trying to overcome fear and so I was the weakest overcome fear and so I was the weakest overcome fear and so I was the weakest link it was relatively evident and then link it was relatively evident and then link it was relatively evident and then I knew that after lunch we were going to I knew that after lunch we were going to I knew that after lunch we were going to be doing sauna and cold and I had done be doing sauna and cold and I had done be doing sauna and cold and I had done years of years of years of dips at Korean spas and Russian and dips at Korean spas and Russian and dips at Korean spas and Russian and Turkish bath house in New York City as I Turkish bath house in New York City as I Turkish bath house in New York City as I was growing up like teenage years like was growing up like teenage years like was growing up like teenage years like late teenagers early 20s of years prior late teenagers early 20s of years prior late teenagers early 20s of years prior but I was going in like 30 seconds being but I was going in like 30 seconds being but I was going in like 30 seconds being like this is amazing and getting out and like this is amazing and getting out and like this is amazing and getting out and kind of not knowing what it was doing or kind of not knowing what it was doing or kind of not knowing what it was doing or why I was feeling how I was feeling and why I was feeling how I was feeling and why I was feeling how I was feeling and then you have all that hot there and so then you have all that hot there and so then you have all that hot there and so I just said I'm gonna go do this ice I just said I'm gonna go do this ice I just said I'm gonna go do this ice plunge and they said like three minutes plunge and they said like three minutes plunge and they said like three minutes and I'm just going to head dunk on the and I'm just going to head dunk on the and I'm just going to head dunk on the in and head dunk on the out and I have in and head dunk on the out and I have in and head dunk on the out and I have all of these mostly males like these big all of these mostly males like these big all of these mostly males like these big strong men and I was like decided I'm strong men and I was like decided I'm strong men and I was like decided I'm going to go first it's like the alpha
33:00going to go first it's like the alpha going to go first it's like the alpha energy in me I'm going to be better than energy in me I'm going to be better than energy in me I'm going to be better than anyone else like look we all have a anyone else like look we all have a anyone else like look we all have a little competitive Spirit but I needed little competitive Spirit but I needed little competitive Spirit but I needed to prove myself for myself as well to be to prove myself for myself as well to be to prove myself for myself as well to be like I want to be a functioning good like I want to be a functioning good like I want to be a functioning good part of this team I was like I'm going part of this team I was like I'm going part of this team I was like I'm going to do this like a zen master like I'm to do this like a zen master like I'm to do this like a zen master like I'm going to go in there like it's like yoga going to go in there like it's like yoga going to go in there like it's like yoga I'm GNA use every skill every breath I'm GNA use every skill every breath I'm GNA use every skill every breath every everything I have I didn't even every everything I have I didn't even every everything I have I didn't even have to like raise my hand and say I'm have to like raise my hand and say I'm have to like raise my hand and say I'm going first Mark the instructor there going first Mark the instructor there going first Mark the instructor there when I gathered around the tub I was when I gathered around the tub I was when I gathered around the tub I was like looking at him so intently he's like looking at him so intently he's like looking at him so intently he's like I think Kristen's going first and I like I think Kristen's going first and I like I think Kristen's going first and I was like yep and then I went and got in was like yep and then I went and got in was like yep and then I went and got in in a way that was so approaching the bar in a way that was so approaching the bar in a way that was so approaching the bar I already knew how it was going to be I I already knew how it was going to be I I already knew how it was going to be I visualized it I did it it was smooth and visualized it I did it it was smooth and visualized it I did it it was smooth and easy of course it was cold and I got out easy of course it was cold and I got out easy of course it was cold and I got out and lots of those men were like whoa and lots of those men were like whoa and lots of those men were like whoa because now the bar has been set and because now the bar has been set and because now the bar has been set and then also I'm pulling my weight in a then also I'm pulling my weight in a then also I'm pulling my weight in a different way so I have some weaknesses different way so I have some weaknesses different way so I have some weaknesses and I have some strengths like everyone and I have some strengths like everyone and I have some strengths like everyone else and so for me that was a really else and so for me that was a really else and so for me that was a really pivotal moment it was when I knew I was pivotal moment it was when I knew I was pivotal moment it was when I knew I was going to do it more when I was going to going to do it more when I was going to going to do it more when I was going to I wanted to coach it I chased those I wanted to coach it I chased those I wanted to coach it I chased those coaches around until they let me in coaches around until they let me in coaches around until they let me in their coaching program and then on and their coaching program and then on and their coaching program and then on and on and on and that's like six years on and on and that's like six years on and on and that's like six years later so it's like it's such a practice
34:00later so it's like it's such a practice later so it's like it's such a practice of power and it's such a place that we of power and it's such a place that we of power and it's such a place that we can and it's not to slight you to be can and it's not to slight you to be can and it's not to slight you to be like oh this hurts and this is painful like oh this hurts and this is painful like oh this hurts and this is painful it it is many people use those words I it it is many people use those words I it it is many people use those words I try to not use those words because I'm try to not use those words because I'm try to not use those words because I'm not trying to scare off people from not trying to scare off people from not trying to scare off people from trying getting in the cold and the trying getting in the cold and the trying getting in the cold and the reality is anyone mostly anyone there's reality is anyone mostly anyone there's reality is anyone mostly anyone there's a few contraindications but mostly a few contraindications but mostly a few contraindications but mostly anyone can do anything for three minutes anyone can do anything for three minutes anyone can do anything for three minutes that's challenging and if we learn how that's challenging and if we learn how that's challenging and if we learn how to use our breath we can crush it we can to use our breath we can crush it we can to use our breath we can crush it we can do it and then we can feel what you feel do it and then we can feel what you feel do it and then we can feel what you feel which is a parasympathetic rebound which which is a parasympathetic rebound which which is a parasympathetic rebound which is I am smart I'm heightened Focus I'm is I am smart I'm heightened Focus I'm is I am smart I'm heightened Focus I'm awake my body is so thrilled that it's awake my body is so thrilled that it's awake my body is so thrilled that it's survived it turns all the switches on survived it turns all the switches on survived it turns all the switches on like of all the best things we want and like of all the best things we want and like of all the best things we want and so it feels so good to get so it feels so good to get so it feels so good to get out yes it does no denying that Gabby out yes it does no denying that Gabby out yes it does no denying that Gabby and lar are just they're professional and lar are just they're professional and lar are just they're professional athletes they're not only Prof she's an athletes they're not only Prof she's an athletes they're not only Prof she's an Olympian you know I'm used to like you Olympian you know I'm used to like you Olympian you know I'm used to like you know I'm in Park City there's like a lot know I'm in Park City there's like a lot know I'm in Park City there's like a lot of that you love this CHR you know like of that you love this CHR you know like of that you love this CHR you know like in Park City somebody invites you for a in Park City somebody invites you for a in Park City somebody invites you for a hike or something you have to level set
35:00hike or something you have to level set hike or something you have to level set by saying I don't have a by saying I don't have a by saying I don't have a metal good chance they do in something metal good chance they do in something metal good chance they do in something and you just have to say like I'm a and you just have to say like I'm a and you just have to say like I'm a normal human I'm sort of a reasonably normal human I'm sort of a reasonably normal human I'm sort of a reasonably fit normal human but you know I see fit normal human but you know I see fit normal human but you know I see these sort of people and it's like I these sort of people and it's like I these sort of people and it's like I don't have that physiology three months don't have that physiology three months don't have that physiology three months ago I was at I was River swimming in ago I was at I was River swimming in ago I was at I was River swimming in park swey it was City it was so park swey it was City it was so park swey it was City it was so incredible and I'm coming back to SLC incredible and I'm coming back to SLC incredible and I'm coming back to SLC area Park City where my friend is area Park City where my friend is area Park City where my friend is co-hosting uh SHP of breath and cold co-hosting uh SHP of breath and cold co-hosting uh SHP of breath and cold training in November ah right get the training in November ah right get the training in November ah right get the details so you can send me all your details so you can send me all your details so you can send me all your people and come and check it out people and come and check it out people and come and check it out absolutely yeah swim in the Provo River absolutely yeah swim in the Provo River absolutely yeah swim in the Provo River you know November that'll that'll get you know November that'll that'll get you know November that'll that'll get you yeah or you can come out you if you you yeah or you can come out you if you you yeah or you can come out you if you come up to Park City go to um Silver come up to Park City go to um Silver come up to Park City go to um Silver Mountain the gym that I go to and they Mountain the gym that I go to and they Mountain the gym that I go to and they one of the pools isn't heated so by one of the pools isn't heated so by one of the pools isn't heated so by November that'll be you know probably November that'll be you know probably November that'll be you know probably it'll be chilly yeah for anyone who it'll be chilly yeah for anyone who it'll be chilly yeah for anyone who hasn't done this there is an enormous hasn't done this there is an enormous hasn't done this there is an enormous difference between still cold water and difference between still cold water and difference between still cold water and circulating cold water for sure so in circulating cold water for sure so in circulating cold water for sure so in still cold water the like in the pool
36:00still cold water the like in the pool still cold water the like in the pool even though it's 32 degrees if you want even though it's 32 degrees if you want even though it's 32 degrees if you want to make it easier on yourself don't move to make it easier on yourself don't move to make it easier on yourself don't move because you build up this like layer of because you build up this like layer of because you build up this like layer of relative warmth around you if you're in relative warmth around you if you're in relative warmth around you if you're in a circulating cold tub or you're in a a circulating cold tub or you're in a a circulating cold tub or you're in a cold you're in the ocean or a river it's cold you're in the ocean or a river it's cold you're in the ocean or a river it's like another thing is all I gotta say like another thing is all I gotta say like another thing is all I gotta say yeah yeah yeah there's something yeah yeah yeah there's something yeah yeah yeah there's something beautiful about being in nature too beautiful about being in nature too beautiful about being in nature too right yeah that and also maybe balances right yeah that and also maybe balances right yeah that and also maybe balances out the breaking of the thermal bubble out the breaking of the thermal bubble out the breaking of the thermal bubble and the intensity that comes with moving and the intensity that comes with moving and the intensity that comes with moving water there's something like after one water there's something like after one water there's something like after one of the trainings one of my the people in of the trainings one of my the people in of the trainings one of my the people in my course was driving me back to the my course was driving me back to the my course was driving me back to the place I was staying and he's like hey place I was staying and he's like hey place I was staying and he's like hey can you just I'm I'm just want to take a can you just I'm I'm just want to take a can you just I'm I'm just want to take a quick dip in the river and I was like quick dip in the river and I was like quick dip in the river and I was like didn't have a bathing suit on with me didn't have a bathing suit on with me didn't have a bathing suit on with me and I like well I'm like yeah let me and I like well I'm like yeah let me and I like well I'm like yeah let me I'll take some content of you and he I'll take some content of you and he I'll take some content of you and he went down in the rocks and the river and went down in the rocks and the river and went down in the rocks and the river and it's all flowing and cold and I was like it's all flowing and cold and I was like it's all flowing and cold and I was like I can't not do this and so I was just I can't not do this and so I was just I can't not do this and so I was just like Cameron I'm just gonna strip down like Cameron I'm just gonna strip down like Cameron I'm just gonna strip down to my undies and get in I hope that's to my undies and get in I hope that's to my undies and get in I hope that's okay with everyone in this because okay with everyone in this because okay with everyone in this because there's other people around you know but there's other people around you know but there's other people around you know but it's like a bathing suit so I just it's like a bathing suit so I just it's like a bathing suit so I just couldn't like take my up away from it couldn't like take my up away from it couldn't like take my up away from it because it's like grounding and earthing
37:00because it's like grounding and earthing because it's like grounding and earthing and then like getting in the water and I and then like getting in the water and I and then like getting in the water and I was like okay this is sort of like a was like okay this is sort of like a was like okay this is sort of like a moment but it's really beautiful to do moment but it's really beautiful to do moment but it's really beautiful to do this work in nature as well yeah I mean this work in nature as well yeah I mean this work in nature as well yeah I mean you could tell can you tell I'm like you could tell can you tell I'm like you could tell can you tell I'm like addicted to it I really love it I really addicted to it I really love it I really addicted to it I really love it I really believe in that the there no two modal believe in that the there no two modal believe in that the there no two modal I've buy biohacking for 12 plus years I've buy biohacking for 12 plus years I've buy biohacking for 12 plus years I've been always on this doing I've been always on this doing I've been always on this doing wackadoodle nutrition things and and and wackadoodle nutrition things and and and wackadoodle nutrition things and and and exploring a lot been ever curious there exploring a lot been ever curious there exploring a lot been ever curious there are no two modalities that I've ever are no two modalities that I've ever are no two modalities that I've ever used and I've had lots of fails and used and I've had lots of fails and used and I've had lots of fails and peptides and all the things there no two peptides and all the things there no two peptides and all the things there no two modalities that I've ever used that are modalities that I've ever used that are modalities that I've ever used that are as effective as are as efficient and as effective as are as efficient and as effective as are as efficient and effective and transforming people as effective and transforming people as effective and transforming people as breath and cold exposure together there breath and cold exposure together there breath and cold exposure together there just no two it's like one where else can just no two it's like one where else can just no two it's like one where else can you go I'm not saying it's a silver you go I'm not saying it's a silver you go I'm not saying it's a silver bullet but it's like on one dip you can bullet but it's like on one dip you can bullet but it's like on one dip you can be like whoa okay maybe I need to leave be like whoa okay maybe I need to leave be like whoa okay maybe I need to leave my job I didn't know that I could do my job I didn't know that I could do my job I didn't know that I could do things like this I seal this things like this I seal this things like this I seal this neurochemistry like talk about you know neurochemistry like talk about you know neurochemistry like talk about you know all the challenges people are having all the challenges people are having all the challenges people are having with stress and depression and mental with stress and depression and mental with stress and depression and mental well-being right now well-being right now well-being right now oh my goodness I can feel better again oh my goodness I can feel better again oh my goodness I can feel better again I'm like my old self like all of those
38:00I'm like my old self like all of those I'm like my old self like all of those things come up and out and especially if things come up and out and especially if things come up and out and especially if it's if it's with a group or Community it's if it's with a group or Community it's if it's with a group or Community or coach or someone who just makes you or coach or someone who just makes you or coach or someone who just makes you feel like safe right that's the feel like safe right that's the feel like safe right that's the important piece that you can shed some important piece that you can shed some important piece that you can shed some of the really heavy stuff we carry of the really heavy stuff we carry of the really heavy stuff we carry around and actually shift into like a around and actually shift into like a around and actually shift into like a better version of yourself in just in better version of yourself in just in better version of yourself in just in one right and then hopefully you go back one right and then hopefully you go back one right and then hopefully you go back for more I really just love it it's for more I really just love it it's for more I really just love it it's pretty wild discovering unknown capacity pretty wild discovering unknown capacity pretty wild discovering unknown capacity yeah yeah yeah yeah so here's the skinny we all know yeah so here's the skinny we all know yeah so here's the skinny we all know and if you don't know we talked about it and if you don't know we talked about it and if you don't know we talked about it with Molly mlin or Molly Easton now that with Molly mlin or Molly Easton now that with Molly mlin or Molly Easton now that she's married on this podcast sleep is a she's married on this podcast sleep is a she's married on this podcast sleep is a skill and in order to be able to bolster skill and in order to be able to bolster skill and in order to be able to bolster our sleep hygiene and manage our health our sleep hygiene and manage our health our sleep hygiene and manage our health and wellbeing to the best of our ability and wellbeing to the best of our ability and wellbeing to the best of our ability we have to manage one thing and that is we have to manage one thing and that is we have to manage one thing and that is light how are we going to manage light light how are we going to manage light light how are we going to manage light blue blocking glasses the marketpl is blue blocking glasses the marketpl is blue blocking glasses the marketpl is filled with a bazillion types of styles filled with a bazillion types of styles filled with a bazillion types of styles of glasses a lot of them look really of glasses a lot of them look really of glasses a lot of them look really dorky let's be honest but I found this dorky let's be honest but I found this dorky let's be honest but I found this company filter Optics and they help me company filter Optics and they help me
39:00company filter Optics and they help me especially with the nights that I have especially with the nights that I have especially with the nights that I have to be on the computer or be on the phone to be on the computer or be on the phone to be on the computer or be on the phone or be out at an event in an indoor space or be out at an event in an indoor space or be out at an event in an indoor space where there's artificial blue light where there's artificial blue light where there's artificial blue light these two guys in Norway crushed the these two guys in Norway crushed the these two guys in Norway crushed the style on this there's amazing Styles style on this there's amazing Styles style on this there's amazing Styles across a landscape of all of their across a landscape of all of their across a landscape of all of their glasses you can apply your prescription glasses you can apply your prescription glasses you can apply your prescription to them you can utilize them to block to them you can utilize them to block to them you can utilize them to block the artificial light pop them on at the artificial light pop them on at the artificial light pop them on at Sunset use them when you're in front of Sunset use them when you're in front of Sunset use them when you're in front of your computer all day long and they are your computer all day long and they are your computer all day long and they are sustainable and good for the planet sustainable and good for the planet sustainable and good for the planet let's get together on this I know we're let's get together on this I know we're let's get together on this I know we're all talking about it and we know better all talking about it and we know better all talking about it and we know better and all you got to do is get yourself a and all you got to do is get yourself a and all you got to do is get yourself a pair of filter Optics to optimize your pair of filter Optics to optimize your pair of filter Optics to optimize your health and well-being to manage your health and well-being to manage your health and well-being to manage your blue light and to sleep better it's blue light and to sleep better it's blue light and to sleep better it's filter optics.com use the code wellow filter optics.com use the code wellow filter optics.com use the code wellow just like this podcast you'll save a just like this podcast you'll save a just like this podcast you'll save a buck or two and you'll support my show buck or two and you'll support my show buck or two and you'll support my show thanks so much filter optics.com so this thanks so much filter optics.com so this thanks so much filter optics.com so this word word word biohacking which we discuss I have a bit biohacking which we discuss I have a bit biohacking which we discuss I have a bit of an allergy to this word I'd like you of an allergy to this word I'd like you of an allergy to this word I'd like you to Define biohacking for me yeah uh I to Define biohacking for me yeah uh I to Define biohacking for me yeah uh I just did this on social people ask still just did this on social people ask still just did this on social people ask still all the time and and there is an all the time and and there is an all the time and and there is an aversion to the word especially there's aversion to the word especially there's aversion to the word especially there's plenty of women that don't like it I
40:00plenty of women that don't like it I plenty of women that don't like it I think it's taking ancient practices lots think it's taking ancient practices lots think it's taking ancient practices lots of things that we are already doing I of things that we are already doing I of things that we are already doing I say a lot of times so women's you're say a lot of times so women's you're say a lot of times so women's you're you're meditating you're probably you're meditating you're probably you're meditating you're probably already a biohacker but taking already a biohacker but taking already a biohacker but taking meditation and breath work and and some meditation and breath work and and some meditation and breath work and and some of the simple ancient practices that we of the simple ancient practices that we of the simple ancient practices that we may have worked into our lives and may have worked into our lives and may have worked into our lives and combining them with Innovation and combining them with Innovation and combining them with Innovation and Technology right getting on some of the Technology right getting on some of the Technology right getting on some of the machines or looking at the science and machines or looking at the science and machines or looking at the science and things that have been discovered and things that have been discovered and things that have been discovered and utilized for us to be able to hack or utilized for us to be able to hack or utilized for us to be able to hack or create effective shortcuts not just like create effective shortcuts not just like create effective shortcuts not just like you know snake oil but effective you know snake oil but effective you know snake oil but effective shortcuts that we can utilize everything shortcuts that we can utilize everything shortcuts that we can utilize everything in between that and combine it with our in between that and combine it with our in between that and combine it with our intuition to say what is going to work intuition to say what is going to work intuition to say what is going to work for me and combine it with our lab work for me and combine it with our lab work for me and combine it with our lab work so that we can adjust the environment so that we can adjust the environment so that we can adjust the environment both inside and outside of ourselves and both inside and outside of ourselves and both inside and outside of ourselves and when we do that we can set ourselves up when we do that we can set ourselves up when we do that we can set ourselves up to live longer better to be happier and to live longer better to be happier and to live longer better to be happier and those things are the things that are those things are the things that are those things are the things that are really as an endgame the most important really as an endgame the most important really as an endgame the most important thing we all should be seeking Joy you thing we all should be seeking Joy you thing we all should be seeking Joy you know I'm Shing but seeking joy and love know I'm Shing but seeking joy and love know I'm Shing but seeking joy and love and kindness like when it comes right and kindness like when it comes right and kindness like when it comes right down to it those are the things that are
41:00down to it those are the things that are down to it those are the things that are going to make the world go around and going to make the world go around and going to make the world go around and make our life succeed and we can't take make our life succeed and we can't take make our life succeed and we can't take it with us as far as we know we can't it with us as far as we know we can't it with us as far as we know we can't take it with us we get one time at least take it with us we get one time at least take it with us we get one time at least in this Meats suit we get one time in this Meats suit we get one time in this Meats suit we get one time around I don't know what I am next but around I don't know what I am next but around I don't know what I am next but biohacking is the thing that is going to biohacking is the thing that is going to biohacking is the thing that is going to help you optimize your health so you can help you optimize your health so you can help you optimize your health so you can feel better throughout the entirety of feel better throughout the entirety of feel better throughout the entirety of your journey to Joy is Aderall your journey to Joy is Aderall your journey to Joy is Aderall biohacking Pharma I'm not a big fan of biohacking Pharma I'm not a big fan of biohacking Pharma I'm not a big fan of Pharma and also I am a fan of people of Pharma and also I am a fan of people of Pharma and also I am a fan of people of their own valtion choosing medicine I their own valtion choosing medicine I their own valtion choosing medicine I want to say Aderall is not biohacking want to say Aderall is not biohacking want to say Aderall is not biohacking I'm not as much of a fan but I also know I'm not as much of a fan but I also know I'm not as much of a fan but I also know people take Metformin people take people take Metformin people take people take Metformin people take prescription medication I think prescription medication I think prescription medication I think contextually it could be it depends is contextually it could be it depends is contextually it could be it depends is like any other good answer my preference like any other good answer my preference like any other good answer my preference is to stay off of pharmaceuticals just is to stay off of pharmaceuticals just is to stay off of pharmaceuticals just because of the side effects that exist I because of the side effects that exist I because of the side effects that exist I do think there are some you know do think there are some you know do think there are some you know obviously some people need it some obviously some people need it some obviously some people need it some people need metform and for other people need metform and for other people need metform and for other reasons right they need to be able to reasons right they need to be able to reasons right they need to be able to stabilize their body so not my first stabilize their body so not my first stabilize their body so not my first go-to biohack I think there's other ways go-to biohack I think there's other ways go-to biohack I think there's other ways to play it o zic look you got to be the
42:00to play it o zic look you got to be the to play it o zic look you got to be the right candidate for it if you're going right candidate for it if you're going right candidate for it if you're going to do it so I'm going to digress really to do it so I'm going to digress really to do it so I'm going to digress really quickly one time a therapist said to me quickly one time a therapist said to me quickly one time a therapist said to me uh having a conversation at a social uh having a conversation at a social uh having a conversation at a social event not my therapist but was like I event not my therapist but was like I event not my therapist but was like I like when people show up to me and they like when people show up to me and they like when people show up to me and they have all this dysfunction I say to them have all this dysfunction I say to them have all this dysfunction I say to them I want to work with you but here's my I want to work with you but here's my I want to work with you but here's my rule if you're not meditating meditating rule if you're not meditating meditating rule if you're not meditating meditating at least once a day 20 minutes I'm not at least once a day 20 minutes I'm not at least once a day 20 minutes I'm not working with you because if you don't working with you because if you don't working with you because if you don't get the basine right you don't get to get the basine right you don't get to get the basine right you don't get to get the cheats and that's the problem if get the cheats and that's the problem if get the cheats and that's the problem if we're going to say there's a problem we're going to say there's a problem we're going to say there's a problem with biohacking or that term or it with biohacking or that term or it with biohacking or that term or it alludes to the fact that perhaps you alludes to the fact that perhaps you alludes to the fact that perhaps you don't have to do the basics and I get don't have to do the basics and I get don't have to do the basics and I get that the basics can be simple not easy that the basics can be simple not easy that the basics can be simple not easy and I get to the basics can sometimes and I get to the basics can sometimes and I get to the basics can sometimes actually be boring let's find ways to to actually be boring let's find ways to to actually be boring let's find ways to to shortcut that from being boring let's shortcut that from being boring let's shortcut that from being boring let's find ways to make them exciting so asmic find ways to make them exciting so asmic find ways to make them exciting so asmic is a thing that I think number one I is a thing that I think number one I is a thing that I think number one I want to say this out loud and I hope want to say this out loud and I hope want to say this out loud and I hope this lands for people if you have ever this lands for people if you have ever this lands for people if you have ever had any eating dysfunction in your life had any eating dysfunction in your life had any eating dysfunction in your life anorexia bulimia body dysmorphia and anorexia bulimia body dysmorphia and anorexia bulimia body dysmorphia and that's a a lot of I will say females that's a a lot of I will say females that's a a lot of I will say females from my experience a lot of people I'm a
43:00from my experience a lot of people I'm a from my experience a lot of people I'm a hard no on OIC um tepati is also out hard no on OIC um tepati is also out hard no on OIC um tepati is also out there as well I think tote is a better there as well I think tote is a better there as well I think tote is a better solution than OIC but we're splitting solution than OIC but we're splitting solution than OIC but we're splitting hairs and if anyone shows up with an hairs and if anyone shows up with an hairs and if anyone shows up with an eaing dysfunction or disorder the answer eaing dysfunction or disorder the answer eaing dysfunction or disorder the answer is no it's a twisted cutting is no it's a twisted cutting is no it's a twisted cutting style not it will make the matter the style not it will make the matter the style not it will make the matter the problem worse um so that's a that's problem worse um so that's a that's problem worse um so that's a that's something that I I have a really strong something that I I have a really strong something that I I have a really strong belief on if someone is looking for the belief on if someone is looking for the belief on if someone is looking for the lesser of two evils in some way before lesser of two evils in some way before lesser of two evils in some way before they go and cut themselves open and have they go and cut themselves open and have they go and cut themselves open and have some kind of other surgery stomach wies some kind of other surgery stomach wies some kind of other surgery stomach wies Etc then perhaps it's something that Etc then perhaps it's something that Etc then perhaps it's something that they could try I think you got to get they could try I think you got to get they could try I think you got to get the basics right first are you getting the basics right first are you getting the basics right first are you getting Mobility every single day movement are Mobility every single day movement are Mobility every single day movement are you eating at McDonald's and then you eating at McDonald's and then you eating at McDonald's and then shooting OIC no the answer is no this is shooting OIC no the answer is no this is shooting OIC no the answer is no this is the vertical of biohacking that I don't the vertical of biohacking that I don't the vertical of biohacking that I don't like which is the like I'm not going to like which is the like I'm not going to like which is the like I'm not going to do the other stuff I'm just going to do the other stuff I'm just going to do the other stuff I'm just going to take the pill that I think will get the take the pill that I think will get the take the pill that I think will get the answer now maybe you're going to get a answer now maybe you're going to get a answer now maybe you're going to get a shortterm solution I'm also a shortterm solution I'm also a shortterm solution I'm also a Libertarian so you want to whatever you Libertarian so you want to whatever you Libertarian so you want to whatever you want to do with your body is totally want to do with your body is totally want to do with your body is totally fine we need to be smarter when it comes fine we need to be smarter when it comes fine we need to be smarter when it comes to health and wellbeing and we need to to health and wellbeing and we need to to health and wellbeing and we need to be smarter around medications that are
44:00be smarter around medications that are be smarter around medications that are like prescribed pharmaceutically and like prescribed pharmaceutically and like prescribed pharmaceutically and just making money for the man so just making money for the man so just making money for the man so libertarian to me to say that but yeah libertarian to me to say that but yeah libertarian to me to say that but yeah it's a hot button for me because I have it's a hot button for me because I have it's a hot button for me because I have um a lot of eating disordered people um a lot of eating disordered people um a lot of eating disordered people around me in my life or have had and I around me in my life or have had and I around me in my life or have had and I just feel like I have friends I see on just feel like I have friends I see on just feel like I have friends I see on social they're like I've never felt so social they're like I've never felt so social they're like I've never felt so good I've never been so great I've good I've never been so great I've good I've never been so great I've finally shifted the body at weight I finally shifted the body at weight I finally shifted the body at weight I couldn't lose all of the things and I'm couldn't lose all of the things and I'm couldn't lose all of the things and I'm not here to say it's a Band-Aid but in not here to say it's a Band-Aid but in not here to say it's a Band-Aid but in some cases it's a Band-Aid some other some cases it's a Band-Aid some other some cases it's a Band-Aid some other labs things might be more helpful to labs things might be more helpful to labs things might be more helpful to figure out the the head of the snake figure out the the head of the snake figure out the the head of the snake that's what we want to find right what's that's what we want to find right what's that's what we want to find right what's the head of the the head of the the head of the snake we had we did a podcast about I snake we had we did a podcast about I snake we had we did a podcast about I don't know eight months ago or so on OIC don't know eight months ago or so on OIC don't know eight months ago or so on OIC and we had a couple of people on who and we had a couple of people on who and we had a couple of people on who were very Pro OIC I take the other side were very Pro OIC I take the other side were very Pro OIC I take the other side of it there's a lot of data on the other of it there's a lot of data on the other of it there's a lot of data on the other side of it but I I I just to bring you side of it but I I I just to bring you side of it but I I I just to bring you back to like what is biohacking and back to like what is biohacking and back to like what is biohacking and what's not I really want another word what's not I really want another word what's not I really want another word for this people call me a biohacker and for this people call me a biohacker and for this people call me a biohacker and I sort of get a little like like what do I sort of get a little like like what do I sort of get a little like like what do you mean by that I'm trying to become you mean by that I'm trying to become you mean by that I'm trying to become the best version of myself as I am today
45:00the best version of myself as I am today the best version of myself as I am today so I'm not 20 today I owe a debt to the so I'm not 20 today I owe a debt to the so I'm not 20 today I owe a debt to the people who helped me along all these people who helped me along all these people who helped me along all these years I owe I owe a debt to my body I years I owe I owe a debt to my body I years I owe I owe a debt to my body I owe a debt to my teachers to really try owe a debt to my teachers to really try owe a debt to my teachers to really try and be like the best version of David I and be like the best version of David I and be like the best version of David I can and that's why I do some of these can and that's why I do some of these can and that's why I do some of these things you like my goal in life is full things you like my goal in life is full things you like my goal in life is full self-actualization yeah that that's self-actualization yeah that that's self-actualization yeah that that's that's sort of what empowers me that's that's sort of what empowers me that's that's sort of what empowers me that's just my thing so that's sort of how I just my thing so that's sort of how I just my thing so that's sort of how I look at these different things that look at these different things that look at these different things that people do and there's certain things in people do and there's certain things in people do and there's certain things in the biohack world that I won't do the biohack world that I won't do the biohack world that I won't do certain things I check with my doctor certain things I check with my doctor certain things I check with my doctor and it's like hey I'm thinking about and it's like hey I'm thinking about and it's like hey I'm thinking about doing this what do you think am I okay doing this what do you think am I okay doing this what do you think am I okay you know for I think both of us are in a you know for I think both of us are in a you know for I think both of us are in a position where we have a lot of Medical position where we have a lot of Medical position where we have a lot of Medical Science people that we can just call up Science people that we can just call up Science people that we can just call up and say like oh hey what happens if I do and say like oh hey what happens if I do and say like oh hey what happens if I do this what do I got to look at and that's
46:00this what do I got to look at and that's this what do I got to look at and that's sort of how I go about it yeah and you sort of how I go about it yeah and you sort of how I go about it yeah and you got to have a good life team medical got to have a good life team medical got to have a good life team medical team Etc right friends and actually paid team Etc right friends and actually paid team Etc right friends and actually paid professionals I think that can advise professionals I think that can advise professionals I think that can advise you and I went I was on power athletes you and I went I was on power athletes you and I went I was on power athletes podcast talking about red light therapy podcast talking about red light therapy podcast talking about red light therapy and that's John wellburn um who's like and that's John wellburn um who's like and that's John wellburn um who's like an expr NFL player and he I was like an expr NFL player and he I was like an expr NFL player and he I was like bioh hacking like you know what's the bioh hacking like you know what's the bioh hacking like you know what's the thing you don't like the word he's like thing you don't like the word he's like thing you don't like the word he's like listen I don't know where you've been listen I don't know where you've been listen I don't know where you've been but the last 30 years we've been but the last 30 years we've been but the last 30 years we've been biohacking we been calling it health and biohacking we been calling it health and biohacking we been calling it health and sports performance we've been doing the sports performance we've been doing the sports performance we've been doing the work we don't need to call it biohacking work we don't need to call it biohacking work we don't need to call it biohacking some fancy Fandango like and he also some fancy Fandango like and he also some fancy Fandango like and he also thinks you know he he's like look at the thinks you know he he's like look at the thinks you know he he's like look at the landscape of most of the people landscape of most of the people landscape of most of the people biohacking they're like not even taking biohacking they're like not even taking biohacking they're like not even taking care of themselves who who in that group care of themselves who who in that group care of themselves who who in that group can back squat ever listen to John he's can back squat ever listen to John he's can back squat ever listen to John he's like strongly opinionated and also super like strongly opinionated and also super like strongly opinionated and also super sweet and lovely and also just he he has sweet and lovely and also just he he has sweet and lovely and also just he he has a strong opinion about Fitness like get a strong opinion about Fitness like get a strong opinion about Fitness like get under the bar try some hard stuff like under the bar try some hard stuff like under the bar try some hard stuff like you know before you go do all the other you know before you go do all the other you know before you go do all the other things you know and I lean in that things you know and I lean in that things you know and I lean in that direction I was also just like okay he's direction I was also just like okay he's direction I was also just like okay he's like you know naming names and kind of like you know naming names and kind of like you know naming names and kind of laying the playing field out and I was
47:00laying the playing field out and I was laying the playing field out and I was like okay these are some of these are my like okay these are some of these are my like okay these are some of these are my people you're hating on right now but um people you're hating on right now but um people you're hating on right now but um yeah it's a it's a tough word and for yeah it's a it's a tough word and for yeah it's a it's a tough word and for women it's hard it's challenging as a women it's hard it's challenging as a women it's hard it's challenging as a word for females I think because we are word for females I think because we are word for females I think because we are slightly more genetically predisposed to slightly more genetically predisposed to slightly more genetically predisposed to be risk averse because we make babies be risk averse because we make babies be risk averse because we make babies and have to protect them and all that and have to protect them and all that and have to protect them and all that you know in the beginning I remember the you know in the beginning I remember the you know in the beginning I remember the early days it was like Dave with all of early days it was like Dave with all of early days it was like Dave with all of his products Dave aspir and all of his his products Dave aspir and all of his his products Dave aspir and all of his products and things and butter and and products and things and butter and and products and things and butter and and and Ben Greenfield of cryotherapy where and Ben Greenfield of cryotherapy where and Ben Greenfield of cryotherapy where they were talking about everyone they were talking about everyone they were talking about everyone freezing to death in a cryochamber and freezing to death in a cryochamber and freezing to death in a cryochamber and injecting himself with stuff and then injecting himself with stuff and then injecting himself with stuff and then red light therapy on his balls he was red light therapy on his balls he was red light therapy on his balls he was like red light therapy on your testicles like red light therapy on your testicles like red light therapy on your testicles ah like it was it was a lot for the ah like it was it was a lot for the ah like it was it was a lot for the ladies a lot for women I'm always ladies a lot for women I'm always ladies a lot for women I'm always fascinated by that start right and it fascinated by that start right and it fascinated by that start right and it had in the beginning you go to a had in the beginning you go to a had in the beginning you go to a conference it was like 5% or less female conference it was like 5% or less female conference it was like 5% or less female it was heavily male-dominated and so I it was heavily male-dominated and so I it was heavily male-dominated and so I think there's some of that that felt think there's some of that that felt think there's some of that that felt offputting and felt a little like wooo offputting and felt a little like wooo offputting and felt a little like wooo out there and yeah either risky or crazy out there and yeah either risky or crazy out there and yeah either risky or crazy or male energy and I think that turned
48:00or male energy and I think that turned or male energy and I think that turned women on off from the beginning I mean I women on off from the beginning I mean I women on off from the beginning I mean I with my podcast is wellow and quite with my podcast is wellow and quite with my podcast is wellow and quite often I'm like oh it's a road map to all often I'm like oh it's a road map to all often I'm like oh it's a road map to all the biohacks you could ever want and I the biohacks you could ever want and I the biohacks you could ever want and I don't mind the word so much because it's don't mind the word so much because it's don't mind the word so much because it's in the the common vernacular and I don't in the the common vernacular and I don't in the the common vernacular and I don't think it's going away so I just try to think it's going away so I just try to think it's going away so I just try to make it approachable like I want people make it approachable like I want people make it approachable like I want people to know there's like approachability to know there's like approachability to know there's like approachability there it's not for the only Elite we there it's not for the only Elite we there it's not for the only Elite we hear this a lot too right it's so two hear this a lot too right it's so two hear this a lot too right it's so two centers or people who are wealthy or centers or people who are wealthy or centers or people who are wealthy or there's plenty of free bioh hacks if you there's plenty of free bioh hacks if you there's plenty of free bioh hacks if you just look for them right it's like I put just look for them right it's like I put just look for them right it's like I put my made an ebook being like you're all my made an ebook being like you're all my made an ebook being like you're all the free biohacks are less than $5 you the free biohacks are less than $5 you the free biohacks are less than $5 you know and so yeah it's unfortunate and know and so yeah it's unfortunate and know and so yeah it's unfortunate and you know we're stuck with it and maybe you know we're stuck with it and maybe you know we're stuck with it and maybe we'll come up with a better word Health we'll come up with a better word Health we'll come up with a better word Health optimization gets used a lot so we'll optimization gets used a lot so we'll optimization gets used a lot so we'll see I will say in you have much more see I will say in you have much more see I will say in you have much more experience with this than I do but from experience with this than I do but from experience with this than I do but from what I've seen women are like I'm just what I've seen women are like I'm just what I've seen women are like I'm just back to the cold like the guys will be back to the cold like the guys will be back to the cold like the guys will be much more hesitant about the cold and much more hesitant about the cold and much more hesitant about the cold and the women are just like okay I'm going the women are just like okay I'm going the women are just like okay I'm going to do this thing and I'm pleasantly to do this thing and I'm pleasantly to do this thing and I'm pleasantly surprised by that a lot of men will just
49:00surprised by that a lot of men will just surprised by that a lot of men will just get in because it's like the alpha male get in because it's like the alpha male get in because it's like the alpha male energy thing or the like the for many energy thing or the like the for many energy thing or the like the for many many many years my wake up alarm was Joo many many years my wake up alarm was Joo many many years my wake up alarm was Joo willink being like I'm going to give you willink being like I'm going to give you willink being like I'm going to give you the count of 10 get to the gym like all the count of 10 get to the gym like all the count of 10 get to the gym like all this like and I love those guys and I this like and I love those guys and I this like and I love those guys and I love that philosophy like their love that philosophy like their love that philosophy like their philosophies I've sort of grown up in philosophies I've sort of grown up in philosophies I've sort of grown up in that a lot of male mentors and a lot of that a lot of male mentors and a lot of that a lot of male mentors and a lot of that energy and you know I got attuned that energy and you know I got attuned that energy and you know I got attuned to it and that's me and I also think it to it and that's me and I also think it to it and that's me and I also think it didn't serve me in some ways because in didn't serve me in some ways because in didn't serve me in some ways because in the last five years of my life I've the last five years of my life I've the last five years of my life I've really tried to lean a bit more into my really tried to lean a bit more into my really tried to lean a bit more into my divine feminine and my softness and divine feminine and my softness and divine feminine and my softness and sensitivity and things that I was sensitivity and things that I was sensitivity and things that I was leaving on the table in order to like leaving on the table in order to like leaving on the table in order to like power through everything and put myself power through everything and put myself power through everything and put myself to a level of burnout That's not healthy to a level of burnout That's not healthy to a level of burnout That's not healthy so when I look at that landscape I think so when I look at that landscape I think so when I look at that landscape I think how do we navigate the sensitivity that how do we navigate the sensitivity that how do we navigate the sensitivity that we have and how do we look at the space we have and how do we look at the space we have and how do we look at the space as women and cover for ourselves and as women and cover for ourselves and as women and cover for ourselves and care for ourselves and not not the go- care for ourselves and not not the go- care for ourselves and not not the go- hard philosophy all the time and so when hard philosophy all the time and so when hard philosophy all the time and so when men are getting in the ice bath that go
50:00men are getting in the ice bath that go men are getting in the ice bath that go hard philosophy will sometimes lead them hard philosophy will sometimes lead them hard philosophy will sometimes lead them there or it's like one uping their there or it's like one uping their there or it's like one uping their friend or God forbid their girlfriend friend or God forbid their girlfriend friend or God forbid their girlfriend goes in three minutes this just happened goes in three minutes this just happened goes in three minutes this just happened and somebody's like I have to do three and somebody's like I have to do three and somebody's like I have to do three minutes now she did three minutes it's minutes now she did three minutes it's minutes now she did three minutes it's like okay that's your own story and also like okay that's your own story and also like okay that's your own story and also the biggest thing I see with males is the biggest thing I see with males is the biggest thing I see with males is like there's a component especially with like there's a component especially with like there's a component especially with gym heads in some way of the musling gym heads in some way of the musling gym heads in some way of the musling through cold and for me although that through cold and for me although that through cold and for me although that can be the only thing that exists in the can be the only thing that exists in the can be the only thing that exists in the first plunge but for me the beauty of first plunge but for me the beauty of first plunge but for me the beauty of the ice bath is how do I actually sit in the ice bath is how do I actually sit in the ice bath is how do I actually sit in the fully present moment of now and the fully present moment of now and the fully present moment of now and surrender to what's happening so that I surrender to what's happening so that I surrender to what's happening so that I can understand myself better and I think can understand myself better and I think can understand myself better and I think that less that comes up less with I just that less that comes up less with I just that less that comes up less with I just see it more with men like musing through see it more with men like musing through see it more with men like musing through the whole thing and I'm like awesome you the whole thing and I'm like awesome you the whole thing and I'm like awesome you did three did three did three minutes and you missed some of the point minutes and you missed some of the point minutes and you missed some of the point like some of the most important point like some of the most important point like some of the most important point that the ice bath can give you in my that the ice bath can give you in my that the ice bath can give you in my opinion and also it doesn't mean you opinion and also it doesn't mean you opinion and also it doesn't mean you can't go out it doesn't have to be can't go out it doesn't have to be can't go out it doesn't have to be overly ritualistic it doesn't mean you overly ritualistic it doesn't mean you overly ritualistic it doesn't mean you can't go out with friends and be like can't go out with friends and be like can't go out with friends and be like yeah you do five I'll do four like or yeah you do five I'll do four like or yeah you do five I'll do four like or have some head dunking challenge like have some head dunking challenge like have some head dunking challenge like all that's fine as long as you're safe
51:00all that's fine as long as you're safe all that's fine as long as you're safe and also there's other there's other and also there's other there's other and also there's other there's other things to glean from it there's other things to glean from it there's other things to glean from it there's other parts of ourselves that we can discover parts of ourselves that we can discover parts of ourselves that we can discover if we just kind of sit in the Stillness if we just kind of sit in the Stillness if we just kind of sit in the Stillness of it you know I want to liken it to of it you know I want to liken it to of it you know I want to liken it to this thing that um I don't know how many this thing that um I don't know how many this thing that um I don't know how many people are listening to this right now people are listening to this right now people are listening to this right now or how you are with needles but I've or how you are with needles but I've or how you are with needles but I've never been quite good with needles I never been quite good with needles I never been quite good with needles I mean I pass out like and for a biohacker mean I pass out like and for a biohacker mean I pass out like and for a biohacker it's not great it's like I'm trying all it's not great it's like I'm trying all it's not great it's like I'm trying all these different things all the time it's these different things all the time it's these different things all the time it's like taking blood and I'm doing LAB like taking blood and I'm doing LAB like taking blood and I'm doing LAB Works every lab work every three months Works every lab work every three months Works every lab work every three months and it's just I pass out and recently I and it's just I pass out and recently I and it's just I pass out and recently I was doing like an ozonated um an IV was doing like an ozonated um an IV was doing like an ozonated um an IV ozone therapy have you ever done that no ozone therapy have you ever done that no ozone therapy have you ever done that no super lovely I feel like a superhero for super lovely I feel like a superhero for super lovely I feel like a superhero for two days after so they take your blood two days after so they take your blood two days after so they take your blood out they mix it with ozone and then they out they mix it with ozone and then they out they mix it with ozone and then they put it back in your body and they not put it back in your body and they not put it back in your body and they not all of your blood but a portion of it of all of your blood but a portion of it of all of your blood but a portion of it of course and somebody said to me in the course and somebody said to me in the course and somebody said to me in the midst of it when I was like trying to midst of it when I was like trying to midst of it when I was like trying to not hem and ha and be in this story not hem and ha and be in this story not hem and ha and be in this story about I'm nervous with needles right in about I'm nervous with needles right in about I'm nervous with needles right in the same way that you might be nervous the same way that you might be nervous the same way that you might be nervous in an ice bath which I just don't have in an ice bath which I just don't have in an ice bath which I just don't have that and overly like focused in muscling that and overly like focused in muscling that and overly like focused in muscling through and gripping you know like white
52:00through and gripping you know like white through and gripping you know like white knuckling it somebody said hey what knuckling it somebody said hey what knuckling it somebody said hey what happens if you just let it be like it's happens if you just let it be like it's happens if you just let it be like it's a needle going into your arm let it be a a needle going into your arm let it be a a needle going into your arm let it be a needle going into your arm just let that needle going into your arm just let that needle going into your arm just let that be the thing that you're feeling right be the thing that you're feeling right be the thing that you're feeling right now that's what's happening that's real now that's what's happening that's real now that's what's happening that's real it doesn't have to be overblown it it doesn't have to be overblown it it doesn't have to be overblown it doesn't have to be something I'm doesn't have to be something I'm doesn't have to be something I'm spending the whole time right trying to spending the whole time right trying to spending the whole time right trying to mask it and then I was like oh okay let mask it and then I was like oh okay let mask it and then I was like oh okay let me just like Let It Be the thing so me just like Let It Be the thing so me just like Let It Be the thing so maybe I'm not going to watch it go in my maybe I'm not going to watch it go in my maybe I'm not going to watch it go in my arm but let let that be the thing it's arm but let let that be the thing it's arm but let let that be the thing it's going to have a small pin brick into my going to have a small pin brick into my going to have a small pin brick into my skin it's going to have a few feelings skin it's going to have a few feelings skin it's going to have a few feelings and when I let it be the thing that it and when I let it be the thing that it and when I let it be the thing that it is I was like oh this is crazy what do I is I was like oh this is crazy what do I is I was like oh this is crazy what do I say to people when they get in on those say to people when they get in on those say to people when they get in on those first 30 30 seconds I get down I'm at first 30 30 seconds I get down I'm at first 30 30 seconds I get down I'm at eye level with them and I'm like hey yes eye level with them and I'm like hey yes eye level with them and I'm like hey yes let it be what it is right now let it be let it be what it is right now let it be let it be what it is right now let it be what it is so it's so interesting that what it is so it's so interesting that what it is so it's so interesting that I'm like coaching that in one Arena I'm like coaching that in one Arena I'm like coaching that in one Arena obviously this is the other point of the obviously this is the other point of the obviously this is the other point of the ice we don't get an ice bath to get good ice we don't get an ice bath to get good ice we don't get an ice bath to get good at taking an ice bath we get an ice bath at taking an ice bath we get an ice bath at taking an ice bath we get an ice bath to get good at life and that's the thing to get good at life and that's the thing to get good at life and that's the thing right so it's like I just liken it to right so it's like I just liken it to right so it's like I just liken it to that right it's like how can we be that right it's like how can we be that right it's like how can we be really present with exact what's really really present with exact what's really really present with exact what's really going on and not so much story and not going on and not so much story and not going on and not so much story and not the musling through or the avoidant how
53:00the musling through or the avoidant how the musling through or the avoidant how can we be like present and be like okay can we be like present and be like okay can we be like present and be like okay I'm choosing this and this experience is I'm choosing this and this experience is I'm choosing this and this experience is happening for me and what can I gain happening for me and what can I gain happening for me and what can I gain from being right here right now that's from being right here right now that's from being right here right now that's really well said thank you I just want really well said thank you I just want really well said thank you I just want to close with what I've seen especially to close with what I've seen especially to close with what I've seen especially like people my age the women just shine like people my age the women just shine like people my age the women just shine and the men sort of pull back and I've and the men sort of pull back and I've and the men sort of pull back and I've noticed with the cold and some other noticed with the cold and some other noticed with the cold and some other things the women are just stronger The things the women are just stronger The things the women are just stronger The Men We have this delusion because we can Men We have this delusion because we can Men We have this delusion because we can pick up heavier stuff that we're the pick up heavier stuff that we're the pick up heavier stuff that we're the we're the stronger gender gentlemen you we're the stronger gender gentlemen you we're the stronger gender gentlemen you are are are diluted the women going to kick your diluted the women going to kick your diluted the women going to kick your butt when it counts there is an internal butt when it counts there is an internal butt when it counts there is an internal strength but that is what you're saying strength but that is what you're saying strength but that is what you're saying is true in in many it's a beautiful is true in in many it's a beautiful is true in in many it's a beautiful thing to witness right it's like why the thing to witness right it's like why the thing to witness right it's like why the male energy in whatever form or shape it male energy in whatever form or shape it male energy in whatever form or shape it comes in and the female energy in comes in and the female energy in comes in and the female energy in whatever shape or form you know I talk a whatever shape or form you know I talk a whatever shape or form you know I talk a lot about male energy being the doing lot about male energy being the doing lot about male energy being the doing and female energy being the being but and female energy being the being but and female energy being the being but it's why we need both we need both of it's why we need both we need both of it's why we need both we need both of those things to like be in balance and those things to like be in balance and those things to like be in balance and to support each other and like this to support each other and like this
54:00to support each other and like this world's community that we hopefully are world's community that we hopefully are world's community that we hopefully are going to continue to create to thrive going to continue to create to thrive going to continue to create to thrive Kristen it's been great having you on Kristen it's been great having you on Kristen it's been great having you on and I love listening to your voice a and I love listening to your voice a and I love listening to your voice a couple times a week I do your your couple times a week I do your your couple times a week I do your your breath work and um it helps me with my breath work and um it helps me with my breath work and um it helps me with my day and I appreciate that thank you so day and I appreciate that thank you so day and I appreciate that thank you so much David it's been such a pleasure to much David it's been such a pleasure to much David it's been such a pleasure to sit and speak with you and continue to sit and speak with you and continue to sit and speak with you and continue to learn more about all the beautiful work learn more about all the beautiful work learn more about all the beautiful work you put in the world so I will be you put in the world so I will be you put in the world so I will be following you back right back as well following you back right back as well following you back right back as well thanks so much have a wonderful rest of thanks so much have a wonderful rest of thanks so much have a wonderful rest of the day yes thank you for joining us here on yes thank you for joining us here on well power you can submit questions well power you can submit questions well power you can submit questions learn more shop incredible Brands and learn more shop incredible Brands and learn more shop incredible Brands and connect with me at wellpower dolie or connect with me at wellpower dolie or connect with me at wellpower dolie or follow me on social at biohacking follow me on social at biohacking follow me on social at biohacking breath. cold from Comfort to courage breath. cold from Comfort to courage breath. cold from Comfort to courage friends we're doing it any fow language friends we're doing it any fow language friends we're doing it any fow language you hear is not approved by my mother you hear is not approved by my mother you hear is not approved by my mother [Music]