Harnessing the Power of Cold Therapy: A Guide to Recovery and Longevity - Full Transcript

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01:00day. day. >> Exactly. >> Exactly. >> Exactly. All right. I'm just waiting for the go All right. I'm just waiting for the go All right. I'm just waiting for the go live on the Instagram to actually work live on the Instagram to actually work live on the Instagram to actually work and then uh and then uh and then uh yeah, everything will be good. So, Cora, yeah, everything will be good. So, Cora, yeah, everything will be good. So, Cora, what are we talking about today? talking what are we talking about today? talking what are we talking about today? talking about cold therapy today. about cold therapy today. about cold therapy today. >> Yeah, it feels like the right day to >> Yeah, it feels like the right day to >> Yeah, it feels like the right day to talk about cold. talk about cold. talk about cold. >> Yeah, >> Yeah, >> Yeah, definitely is. definitely is. definitely is. >> Right day, the right month. And oh my >> Right day, the right month. And oh my >> Right day, the right month. And oh my gosh, I woke up this morning and I was gosh, I woke up this morning and I was gosh, I woke up this morning and I was like, "Oh, why is it br?" And then I like, "Oh, why is it br?" And then I like, "Oh, why is it br?" And then I realized that we left the windows open realized that we left the windows open realized that we left the windows open because we like to snuggle in the because we like to snuggle in the because we like to snuggle in the covers. covers. covers. >> But then when I wake up and I'm not >> But then when I wake up and I'm not >> But then when I wake up and I'm not snuggled with anybody, it's like, "This snuggled with anybody, it's like, "This snuggled with anybody, it's like, "This is cold." is cold." is cold." See, that's like actually one of my See, that's like actually one of my See, that's like actually one of my favorite ways to sleep in the winter is favorite ways to sleep in the winter is favorite ways to sleep in the winter is like eight blankets and the window wide like eight blankets and the window wide like eight blankets and the window wide open. It's hard to get out of bed. open. It's hard to get out of bed. open. It's hard to get out of bed. >> The sleep is nice. >> Yeah. Yeah. Sleep is sleep is very >> Yeah. Yeah. Sleep is sleep is very lovely when it's cold outside, but

02:00lovely when it's cold outside, but lovely when it's cold outside, but you're nice and warm. you're nice and warm. you're nice and warm. >> Yes. >> Yes. >> Yes. >> Yeah. It's like kind of like camping, >> Yeah. It's like kind of like camping, >> Yeah. It's like kind of like camping, you know? you know? you know? >> Oh, I love camping. outside. >> Oh, I love camping. outside. >> Oh, I love camping. outside. >> Um, if you're watching this later on or >> Um, if you're watching this later on or >> Um, if you're watching this later on or anything, you should comment down anything, you should comment down anything, you should comment down whether or not you also like the cold whether or not you also like the cold whether or not you also like the cold with the nice warm blankets or if you with the nice warm blankets or if you with the nice warm blankets or if you prefer it to be warm so you can throw prefer it to be warm so you can throw prefer it to be warm so you can throw blankets off blankets off blankets off cuz it's always one of two camps that cuz it's always one of two camps that cuz it's always one of two camps that way. way. way. >> Yeah. See, for me, my toes my feet have >> Yeah. See, for me, my toes my feet have >> Yeah. See, for me, my toes my feet have to be covered. to be covered. to be covered. >> I've seen Well, my childhood fears still >> I've seen Well, my childhood fears still >> I've seen Well, my childhood fears still run rampant in my adult life. So, if my run rampant in my adult life. So, if my run rampant in my adult life. So, if my feet are covered, nothing can grab them. feet are covered, nothing can grab them. feet are covered, nothing can grab them. >> I got you. Yes. >> I got you. Yes. >> I got you. Yes. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yep. >> Oh, that's funny. Uh, but that is not >> Oh, that's funny. Uh, but that is not the cold we can't. >> No, that's just way too many horror >> No, that's just way too many horror movies and overactive imagination. movies and overactive imagination. movies and overactive imagination. >> Oh, the horror movies.

03:00>> Oh, the horror movies. >> Oh, the horror movies. So, we're talking more about the actual So, we're talking more about the actual So, we're talking more about the actual use of cold in therapy today and how use of cold in therapy today and how use of cold in therapy today and how cold can be beneficial, sometimes not so cold can be beneficial, sometimes not so cold can be beneficial, sometimes not so beneficial. beneficial. beneficial. >> Uh, Kora, you are our foremost authority >> Uh, Kora, you are our foremost authority >> Uh, Kora, you are our foremost authority on hydrotherapy. So, why don't you talk on hydrotherapy. So, why don't you talk on hydrotherapy. So, why don't you talk a little bit about what you think about a little bit about what you think about a little bit about what you think about cold therapy? cold therapy? cold therapy? >> Well, I think well, cold is a very uh >> Well, I think well, cold is a very uh >> Well, I think well, cold is a very uh very beneficial when it comes to overall very beneficial when it comes to overall very beneficial when it comes to overall tissue health. tissue health. tissue health. I feel like when we're when we think of I feel like when we're when we think of I feel like when we're when we think of cold, we immediately think of an acute cold, we immediately think of an acute cold, we immediately think of an acute injury. Like, you know, you bonked your injury. Like, you know, you bonked your injury. Like, you know, you bonked your head, put cold on it. I know that's like head, put cold on it. I know that's like head, put cold on it. I know that's like the go-to for a lot of kids, especially the go-to for a lot of kids, especially the go-to for a lot of kids, especially mine. They're like, I need an ice pack. mine. They're like, I need an ice pack. mine. They're like, I need an ice pack. And that's that's all well and good. Um, And that's that's all well and good. Um, And that's that's all well and good. Um, but it actually extends beyond that but it actually extends beyond that but it actually extends beyond that um to just just general maintenance of um to just just general maintenance of um to just just general maintenance of tissue health, promoting circulation, tissue health, promoting circulation, tissue health, promoting circulation, strengthening the tissues and the blood strengthening the tissues and the blood strengthening the tissues and the blood vessels. vessels. vessels. Um, and then also back to that acute

04:00Um, and then also back to that acute Um, and then also back to that acute stage, there's a very fine line when stage, there's a very fine line when stage, there's a very fine line when with with the tissue healing, when it's with with the tissue healing, when it's with with the tissue healing, when it's beneficial and when it's actually not beneficial and when it's actually not beneficial and when it's actually not anymore. anymore. anymore. >> And I think that that's something that's >> And I think that that's something that's >> And I think that that's something that's kind of gray between a lot of people, kind of gray between a lot of people, kind of gray between a lot of people, too. too. too. Because once you get to that certain Because once you get to that certain Because once you get to that certain stage of healing, like once you're into stage of healing, like once you're into stage of healing, like once you're into that subacute, you don't want just cold that subacute, you don't want just cold that subacute, you don't want just cold anymore. You want to start adding that anymore. You want to start adding that anymore. You want to start adding that heat. So, if you're constantly using heat. So, if you're constantly using heat. So, if you're constantly using coal because it hurts, coal because it hurts, coal because it hurts, it's not actually it's not actually it's not actually doing what you think it's doing doing what you think it's doing doing what you think it's doing necessarily. necessarily. necessarily. >> So, what do you think it is doing? >> So, what do you think it is doing? >> So, what do you think it is doing? >> Well, I feel like if you're using cold >> Well, I feel like if you're using cold >> Well, I feel like if you're using cold constantly, constantly, constantly, um, it actually is decreasing the amount um, it actually is decreasing the amount um, it actually is decreasing the amount of blood flow in the area. I know with of blood flow in the area. I know with of blood flow in the area. I know with Chinese medicine um they don't really Chinese medicine um they don't really Chinese medicine um they don't really use cold, they use the heat. Um and with use cold, they use the heat. Um and with use cold, they use the heat. Um and with the some of the articles that I have the some of the articles that I have the some of the articles that I have read with relate, um with heat versus read with relate, um with heat versus read with relate, um with heat versus cold, the cold is actually starting to

05:00cold, the cold is actually starting to cold, the cold is actually starting to work its way out or the ice particularly work its way out or the ice particularly work its way out or the ice particularly is starting to work its way out as far is starting to work its way out as far is starting to work its way out as far as the treatment of injury. Um they've as the treatment of injury. Um they've as the treatment of injury. Um they've noticed actually an increase in chronic noticed actually an increase in chronic noticed actually an increase in chronic pain associated with prolonged use of an pain associated with prolonged use of an pain associated with prolonged use of an ice pack just because it does decrease ice pack just because it does decrease ice pack just because it does decrease that blood flow to the area to the point that blood flow to the area to the point that blood flow to the area to the point where the macrofasages aren't able to where the macrofasages aren't able to where the macrofasages aren't able to come in and do their cleanup. So, okay, So, okay, >> there's a lot of cellular debris, dead >> there's a lot of cellular debris, dead >> there's a lot of cellular debris, dead tissues that are still or dead cells tissues that are still or dead cells tissues that are still or dead cells still stuck there, not able to actually still stuck there, not able to actually still stuck there, not able to actually be flushed out because they're not be flushed out because they're not be flushed out because they're not actually utilizing the heat to really actually utilizing the heat to really actually utilizing the heat to really help promote new blood flow to the area. help promote new blood flow to the area. help promote new blood flow to the area. With that being With that being With that being >> really cool. >> really cool. >> really cool. >> Yeah, I thought it was really >> Yeah, I thought it was really >> Yeah, I thought it was really interesting also like it's fairly fresh. interesting also like it's fairly fresh. interesting also like it's fairly fresh. like only within the last like five like only within the last like five like only within the last like five years have they actually started to years have they actually started to years have they actually started to start to weed out like determine is cold start to weed out like determine is cold start to weed out like determine is cold actually better or is it detrimental actually better or is it detrimental actually better or is it detrimental like but it definitely is I don't think

06:00like but it definitely is I don't think like but it definitely is I don't think it's detrimental because it does promote it's detrimental because it does promote it's detrimental because it does promote the body's own reflexes in returning the body's own reflexes in returning the body's own reflexes in returning blood to the area which is very blood to the area which is very blood to the area which is very important especially when you're dealing important especially when you're dealing important especially when you're dealing with you know chronically cold feet or with you know chronically cold feet or with you know chronically cold feet or poor circulation to the hands that cold poor circulation to the hands that cold poor circulation to the hands that cold therapy is going therapy is going therapy is going work, make the body work to return blood work, make the body work to return blood work, make the body work to return blood to the area and promote circulation, to the area and promote circulation, to the area and promote circulation, strengthening those blood vessels in strengthening those blood vessels in strengthening those blood vessels in promoting promoting promoting um uh immune system function by kind of um uh immune system function by kind of um uh immune system function by kind of increasing the production of red blood increasing the production of red blood increasing the production of red blood cells because of that decrease in oxygen cells because of that decrease in oxygen cells because of that decrease in oxygen that temporary decrease in oxygen to the that temporary decrease in oxygen to the that temporary decrease in oxygen to the area. Um, and it's also going to promote area. Um, and it's also going to promote area. Um, and it's also going to promote new tissue, new blood coming to the new tissue, new blood coming to the new tissue, new blood coming to the area, which is going to do the cleanup area, which is going to do the cleanup area, which is going to do the cleanup that's needed for tissue health. that's needed for tissue health. that's needed for tissue health. >> So, that kind of takes us over to the >> So, that kind of takes us over to the >> So, that kind of takes us over to the idea of the cold plunges and everything idea of the cold plunges and everything idea of the cold plunges and everything because what it sounds like is is you're because what it sounds like is is you're because what it sounds like is is you're promoting it or you're thinking of it promoting it or you're thinking of it promoting it or you're thinking of it more of you already have mostly healthy

07:00more of you already have mostly healthy more of you already have mostly healthy tissue, maybe just not great tissue, maybe just not great tissue, maybe just not great circulation. circulation. circulation. >> Well, there's that, too. And then also >> Well, there's that, too. And then also >> Well, there's that, too. And then also there was I was also reading an article there was I was also reading an article there was I was also reading an article with those cold plunges and the with those cold plunges and the with those cold plunges and the relationship to the circadian rhythm. relationship to the circadian rhythm. relationship to the circadian rhythm. >> Um they actually found too like a >> Um they actually found too like a >> Um they actually found too like a majority of heart attacks actually majority of heart attacks actually majority of heart attacks actually happen in the shower. happen in the shower. happen in the shower. Um and it's usually early morning and Um and it's usually early morning and Um and it's usually early morning and it's a cold shower. So the body's going it's a cold shower. So the body's going it's a cold shower. So the body's going through its reheating phase and we're through its reheating phase and we're through its reheating phase and we're doing that cold shock to it and the doing that cold shock to it and the doing that cold shock to it and the circulatory system just kind of gets circulatory system just kind of gets circulatory system just kind of gets overloaded. So I think that there's a overloaded. So I think that there's a overloaded. So I think that there's a lot of missing pieces in relationship in lot of missing pieces in relationship in lot of missing pieces in relationship in relation to those cold plunges and I relation to those cold plunges and I relation to those cold plunges and I think that education is very important think that education is very important think that education is very important and more research is very much necessary and more research is very much necessary and more research is very much necessary to determine whether those cold plunges to determine whether those cold plunges to determine whether those cold plunges are actually as beneficial as people say are actually as beneficial as people say are actually as beneficial as people say they are or if it's more related to the they are or if it's more related to the they are or if it's more related to the body's natural heating and cooling body's natural heating and cooling body's natural heating and cooling phases.

08:00phases. phases. >> That is really cool. So doing it sort of >> That is really cool. So doing it sort of >> That is really cool. So doing it sort of around its natural cooling phase would around its natural cooling phase would around its natural cooling phase would be more beneficial you think than its be more beneficial you think than its be more beneficial you think than its natural heating phase, natural heating phase, natural heating phase, >> right? Or at least or not the first >> right? Or at least or not the first >> right? Or at least or not the first heating phase, if it was during a second heating phase, if it was during a second heating phase, if it was during a second reheating phase, reheating phase, reheating phase, then that would be different than that then that would be different than that then that would be different than that very first one because everything's very first one because everything's very first one because everything's waking up. waking up. waking up. >> H that's really cool. Um one of the >> H that's really cool. Um one of the >> H that's really cool. Um one of the things that I I loved uh and I still do things that I I loved uh and I still do things that I I loved uh and I still do actually. I haven't been able to do it actually. I haven't been able to do it actually. I haven't been able to do it as often since I've moved, but is doing as often since I've moved, but is doing as often since I've moved, but is doing the um the full body reps, the cold full the um the full body reps, the cold full the um the full body reps, the cold full body reps, which is like a mild cold body reps, which is like a mild cold body reps, which is like a mild cold plunge, plunge, plunge, right? Because you're getting into right? Because you're getting into right? Because you're getting into something that's really cold and then something that's really cold and then something that's really cold and then your body is reheating it. I found that your body is reheating it. I found that your body is reheating it. I found that it was really good for circulation. it was really good for circulation. it was really good for circulation. So, what you're saying is try to be So, what you're saying is try to be So, what you're saying is try to be thoughtful of when you use cold. thoughtful of when you use cold. thoughtful of when you use cold. >> That's just it. And when you actually >> That's just it. And when you actually >> That's just it. And when you actually look into the theory of it, like when we look into the theory of it, like when we look into the theory of it, like when we taught it, there were like the time was taught it, there were like the time was taught it, there were like the time was the frames for the cold wraps were in

09:00the frames for the cold wraps were in the frames for the cold wraps were in relation to the circadian rhythm. relation to the circadian rhythm. relation to the circadian rhythm. >> Oh. Oh, really? >> Oh. Oh, really? >> Oh. Oh, really? >> They were. Yeah. Because you would >> They were. Yeah. Because you would >> They were. Yeah. Because you would always want to do it during the like always want to do it during the like always want to do it during the like later in the later in the day. You later in the later in the day. You later in the later in the day. You didn't want to ever do it first thing in didn't want to ever do it first thing in didn't want to ever do it first thing in the morning. There was no cold the morning. There was no cold the morning. There was no cold indication indication indication >> that I remember teaching that indicated >> that I remember teaching that indicated >> that I remember teaching that indicated first thing in the morning was a good first thing in the morning was a good first thing in the morning was a good idea. idea. idea. No, that's pretty cool. Yeah, I'd No, that's pretty cool. Yeah, I'd No, that's pretty cool. Yeah, I'd definitely forgotten all about that definitely forgotten all about that definitely forgotten all about that part. That's so funny. part. That's so funny. part. That's so funny. So, what are your thoughts then on ice So, what are your thoughts then on ice So, what are your thoughts then on ice massage? Because, you know, ice massage massage? Because, you know, ice massage massage? Because, you know, ice massage is used as part of our regular is used as part of our regular is used as part of our regular treatments for certain conditions or treatments for certain conditions or treatments for certain conditions or certain things. How does uh the research certain things. How does uh the research certain things. How does uh the research that you've read change your mind or not that you've read change your mind or not that you've read change your mind or not change your mind? it doesn't really change your mind? it doesn't really change your mind? it doesn't really there because we're actively creating an there because we're actively creating an there because we're actively creating an inflammatory process that could get out inflammatory process that could get out inflammatory process that could get out of control potentially because we're of control potentially because we're of control potentially because we're using it after frictions. We're using it using it after frictions. We're using it using it after frictions. We're using it after high intensity treatments. So that

10:00after high intensity treatments. So that after high intensity treatments. So that ice massage is ice massage is ice massage is there to kind of calm everything down. there to kind of calm everything down. there to kind of calm everything down. And there's a there's a rule with the And there's a there's a rule with the And there's a there's a rule with the ice massage. We have our C-band. So and ice massage. We have our C-band. So and ice massage. We have our C-band. So and there's those stages that we are there's those stages that we are there's those stages that we are watching for. And if we skip any of watching for. And if we skip any of watching for. And if we skip any of those stages, like the cold, burning, those stages, like the cold, burning, those stages, like the cold, burning, aching, or numb, aching, or numb, aching, or numb, >> then that indicates a negative reaction. >> then that indicates a negative reaction. >> then that indicates a negative reaction. So, we're watching for that as RMTs or So, we're watching for that as RMTs or So, we're watching for that as RMTs or as practitioners. We're watching for as practitioners. We're watching for as practitioners. We're watching for those stages and we know that if any of those stages and we know that if any of those stages and we know that if any of those get missed that we have a negative those get missed that we have a negative those get missed that we have a negative reaction and their body's not responding reaction and their body's not responding reaction and their body's not responding the way it's supposed to. And then at the way it's supposed to. And then at the way it's supposed to. And then at that point, it should be aborted. It's that point, it should be aborted. It's that point, it should be aborted. It's not um it's not like somebody putting an not um it's not like somebody putting an not um it's not like somebody putting an ice pack on their arm for more than two ice pack on their arm for more than two ice pack on their arm for more than two minutes, more than five minutes minutes, more than five minutes minutes, more than five minutes because they do. People do. And then because they do. People do. And then because they do. People do. And then that comes down to the rules, right? The that comes down to the rules, right? The that comes down to the rules, right? The the duration of cold. the duration of cold. the duration of cold. >> Yep. >> Yep. >> Yep. >> Because if something like ice, your >> Because if something like ice, your >> Because if something like ice, your body's not actually able to heat it up body's not actually able to heat it up body's not actually able to heat it up if you're using

11:00if you're using if you're using >> Right. So that a huge difference there >> Right. So that a huge difference there >> Right. So that a huge difference there too because you're not actually too because you're not actually too because you're not actually promoting that circulation. You're promoting that circulation. You're promoting that circulation. You're actually promoting prolonged eskeeia or actually promoting prolonged eskeeia or actually promoting prolonged eskeeia or a decrease in oxygen. You're promoting a decrease in oxygen. You're promoting a decrease in oxygen. You're promoting that prolonged decrease in temperature that prolonged decrease in temperature that prolonged decrease in temperature which could eventually result in which could eventually result in which could eventually result in frostbite. frostbite. frostbite. >> So >> So >> So >> and I think that's a thing that not a >> and I think that's a thing that not a >> and I think that's a thing that not a lot of people think about or know to lot of people think about or know to lot of people think about or know to think about honestly when it comes to think about honestly when it comes to think about honestly when it comes to the cold treatments is what kind of cold the cold treatments is what kind of cold the cold treatments is what kind of cold are you using? Because if you are using are you using? Because if you are using are you using? Because if you are using ice, it it's true. You can't your body ice, it it's true. You can't your body ice, it it's true. You can't your body is like, "Okay, well, ice doesn't stop is like, "Okay, well, ice doesn't stop is like, "Okay, well, ice doesn't stop being ice. Doesn't stop being cold, being ice. Doesn't stop being cold, being ice. Doesn't stop being cold, right, until it's gone." right, until it's gone." right, until it's gone." >> So, your body can't reheat that. No >> So, your body can't reheat that. No >> So, your body can't reheat that. No matter how hard it would try, you can't matter how hard it would try, you can't matter how hard it would try, you can't reheat it. So, it's going to reheat it. So, it's going to reheat it. So, it's going to consistently be closing off those blood consistently be closing off those blood consistently be closing off those blood vessels in that area. vessels in that area. vessels in that area. >> Right. >> Right. >> Right. >> Right. Like, uh I don't know. Um, uh, >> Right. Like, uh I don't know. Um, uh, >> Right. Like, uh I don't know. Um, uh, many of you that watch, you've likely many of you that watch, you've likely many of you that watch, you've likely looked at capillary beds if you're a looked at capillary beds if you're a looked at capillary beds if you're a massage therapist or if you're joining massage therapist or if you're joining massage therapist or if you're joining us and you just want to learn some fun

12:00us and you just want to learn some fun us and you just want to learn some fun stuff. Our capillary beds are a big stuff. Our capillary beds are a big stuff. Our capillary beds are a big network. Each one of them, each place network. Each one of them, each place network. Each one of them, each place where the blood goes from being, you where the blood goes from being, you where the blood goes from being, you know, our red blood to our blue blood, know, our red blood to our blue blood, know, our red blood to our blue blood, right? Our oxygenated to deoxxygenated right? Our oxygenated to deoxxygenated right? Our oxygenated to deoxxygenated blood. It's a big blood. It's a big blood. It's a big network of uh of little vessels that are network of uh of little vessels that are network of uh of little vessels that are allowing for the exchange of oxygen and allowing for the exchange of oxygen and allowing for the exchange of oxygen and and carbon dioxide and other things. But and carbon dioxide and other things. But and carbon dioxide and other things. But they all have little sphincters that can they all have little sphincters that can they all have little sphincters that can close them off except for the one line close them off except for the one line close them off except for the one line that goes from the arterioli to the that goes from the arterioli to the that goes from the arterioli to the venue. There's one line that can never venue. There's one line that can never venue. There's one line that can never get closed off, but the rest of them get closed off, but the rest of them get closed off, but the rest of them can. can. can. When you put ice on an area, all of When you put ice on an area, all of When you put ice on an area, all of those close off. those close off. those close off. >> Mhm. and you just have one line that is >> Mhm. and you just have one line that is >> Mhm. and you just have one line that is allowing for the movement of oxygen and allowing for the movement of oxygen and allowing for the movement of oxygen and carbon dioxide. So you've taken a carbon dioxide. So you've taken a carbon dioxide. So you've taken a network of say network of say network of say two dozen uh capillary openings two dozen uh capillary openings two dozen uh capillary openings to one. So if you want that the actual visual of

13:00So if you want that the actual visual of uh just how much you you have the uh just how much you you have the uh just how much you you have the capacity in in that area to have capacity in in that area to have capacity in in that area to have hundreds of capillaries hundreds of capillaries hundreds of capillaries and each of those hundreds of and each of those hundreds of and each of those hundreds of capillaries have a dozen to two dozen uh capillaries have a dozen to two dozen uh capillaries have a dozen to two dozen uh networks that allow them to release networks that allow them to release networks that allow them to release oxygen and take up carbon dioxide and oxygen and take up carbon dioxide and oxygen and take up carbon dioxide and all the other stuff that happens, all all the other stuff that happens, all all the other stuff that happens, all the debris and all the glucose and the debris and all the glucose and the debris and all the glucose and nutrients that are needed. And then each nutrients that are needed. And then each nutrients that are needed. And then each one of those say hundred that are there, one of those say hundred that are there, one of those say hundred that are there, you put the ice on there and now you you put the ice on there and now you you put the ice on there and now you only have 100. only have 100. only have 100. >> Yeah, that's just it. >> Yeah, that's just it. >> Yeah, that's just it. >> Instead of 100 times 12, you only have >> Instead of 100 times 12, you only have >> Instead of 100 times 12, you only have 100. So now your oxygen movement 100. So now your oxygen movement 100. So now your oxygen movement capacity is greatly reduced by, you capacity is greatly reduced by, you capacity is greatly reduced by, you know, a dozen by 12. It's greatly know, a dozen by 12. It's greatly know, a dozen by 12. It's greatly reduced by 12. And then uh if you just reduced by 12. And then uh if you just reduced by 12. And then uh if you just go by the dozen and then the ability to go by the dozen and then the ability to go by the dozen and then the ability to take up debris or carbon dioxide, the take up debris or carbon dioxide, the take up debris or carbon dioxide, the stuff that might sit there stuff that might sit there stuff that might sit there and really harm the area because it's

14:00and really harm the area because it's and really harm the area because it's debris that your body doesn't want debris that your body doesn't want debris that your body doesn't want there. It just gets left there. there. It just gets left there. there. It just gets left there. Doing that for a minute to two minutes, Doing that for a minute to two minutes, Doing that for a minute to two minutes, even even up to to five with with an ice even even up to to five with with an ice even even up to to five with with an ice thing on there, you could get away with thing on there, you could get away with thing on there, you could get away with it. Five is a little much, right? it. Five is a little much, right? it. Five is a little much, right? >> Be your absolute max. >> Be your absolute max. >> Be your absolute max. >> Yeah. Be your absolute max. Two minutes. >> Yeah. Be your absolute max. Two minutes. >> Yeah. Be your absolute max. Two minutes. >> Awesome. >> Awesome. >> Awesome. >> Right. Um because all you're trying to >> Right. Um because all you're trying to >> Right. Um because all you're trying to do is uh is create eskeemia in the area do is uh is create eskeemia in the area do is uh is create eskeemia in the area so that you have a lack of pain and the so that you have a lack of pain and the so that you have a lack of pain and the swelling starts to go down a little bit. swelling starts to go down a little bit. swelling starts to go down a little bit. That's that's really all you're looking That's that's really all you're looking That's that's really all you're looking for. And then you've got to take that for. And then you've got to take that for. And then you've got to take that away so that the capillaries can reopen. away so that the capillaries can reopen. away so that the capillaries can reopen. and start moving things again like and start moving things again like and start moving things again like really moving. really moving. really moving. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. And and that's really and that's And and that's really and that's And and that's really and that's something too that it's important to be something too that it's important to be something too that it's important to be aware of in that also like that

15:00aware of in that also like that aware of in that also like that temporary decrease in oxygen kind of temporary decrease in oxygen kind of temporary decrease in oxygen kind of panics the kidneys too. So it's panics the kidneys too. So it's panics the kidneys too. So it's beneficial because then you get that red beneficial because then you get that red beneficial because then you get that red blood cell production blood cell production blood cell production >> which increases the promotion of oxygen >> which increases the promotion of oxygen >> which increases the promotion of oxygen >> which I think is where the red the the >> which I think is where the red the the >> which I think is where the red the the the cold plunges that's where I think the cold plunges that's where I think the cold plunges that's where I think the cold plunges are actually a really the cold plunges are actually a really the cold plunges are actually a really fantastic thing fantastic thing fantastic thing >> if done in the right time and I think >> if done in the right time and I think >> if done in the right time and I think also it depends on and more isn't always also it depends on and more isn't always also it depends on and more isn't always better and I think that's the thing too better and I think that's the thing too better and I think that's the thing too like if you've never if you're not good like if you've never if you're not good like if you've never if you're not good with cold don't go straight to an ice with cold don't go straight to an ice with cold don't go straight to an ice plunge plunge plunge like you know And that's where people like you know And that's where people like you know And that's where people are. I feel like they see those cold are. I feel like they see those cold are. I feel like they see those cold plunges and they think immediately ice plunges and they think immediately ice plunges and they think immediately ice water. So there's there's a difference like So there's there's a difference like there's a temperature and you have to there's a temperature and you have to there's a temperature and you have to work your way up to those extremes. And work your way up to those extremes. And work your way up to those extremes. And I personally feel like you know turning I personally feel like you know turning I personally feel like you know turning like a cold like tap cold is okay as like a cold like tap cold is okay as like a cold like tap cold is okay as long as you're able to adjust and you long as you're able to adjust and you long as you're able to adjust and you know that how your body's going to know that how your body's going to know that how your body's going to respond. But if you've never done it respond. But if you've never done it respond. But if you've never done it before and you immediately jump into before and you immediately jump into before and you immediately jump into that cold plunge, you're going to shock

16:00that cold plunge, you're going to shock that cold plunge, you're going to shock your system. your system. your system. >> Yeah. Yeah, they they used to use that >> Yeah. Yeah, they they used to use that >> Yeah. Yeah, they they used to use that as a treatment for um people in insane as a treatment for um people in insane as a treatment for um people in insane asylums asylums asylums and uh yeah, it was not a not a great and uh yeah, it was not a not a great and uh yeah, it was not a not a great thing. thing. thing. >> I don't imagine it. >> I don't imagine it. >> I don't imagine it. >> Oh, that's the other thing that a lot of >> Oh, that's the other thing that a lot of >> Oh, that's the other thing that a lot of people I don't think think about is you people I don't think think about is you people I don't think think about is you have to make sure that you're warm have to make sure that you're warm have to make sure that you're warm before you go in. before you go in. before you go in. >> If you're not warm before you go, if >> If you're not warm before you go, if >> If you're not warm before you go, if you're already cold, you're already cold, you're already cold, you're not getting any benefit at all. you're not getting any benefit at all. you're not getting any benefit at all. No, No, No, that's a that's a rule. Do not put cold that's a that's a rule. Do not put cold that's a that's a rule. Do not put cold on a cold body. on a cold body. on a cold body. >> Um I can remember back oh god be almost >> Um I can remember back oh god be almost >> Um I can remember back oh god be almost 20 years ago now. 20 years ago now. 20 years ago now. That's so funny. Uh I used to have That's so funny. Uh I used to have That's so funny. Uh I used to have really really bad circulation really really bad circulation really really bad circulation specifically down to my feet. And uh I specifically down to my feet. And uh I specifically down to my feet. And uh I followed all the correct steps. I made followed all the correct steps. I made followed all the correct steps. I made sure that they were warm and stuff. And sure that they were warm and stuff. And sure that they were warm and stuff. And for about uh a week to two weeks, I did

17:00for about uh a week to two weeks, I did for about uh a week to two weeks, I did cold water uh st walking. We call it cold water uh st walking. We call it cold water uh st walking. We call it water treading. But you put uh cold water treading. But you put uh cold water treading. But you put uh cold water up to like midcfe or so. And you water up to like midcfe or so. And you water up to like midcfe or so. And you walk in it. You take up one foot fully walk in it. You take up one foot fully walk in it. You take up one foot fully out and then down and the other foot out and then down and the other foot out and then down and the other foot fully out and then down. And you do that fully out and then down. And you do that fully out and then down. And you do that for like 30 seconds. I did that every for like 30 seconds. I did that every for like 30 seconds. I did that every day for a couple of weeks, making sure day for a couple of weeks, making sure day for a couple of weeks, making sure my feet were warm before I went in. my feet were warm before I went in. my feet were warm before I went in. And uh I haven't had a lot of problems And uh I haven't had a lot of problems And uh I haven't had a lot of problems with my circulation since then. with my circulation since then. with my circulation since then. And I just did it for a couple of weeks. And I just did it for a couple of weeks. And I just did it for a couple of weeks. I think it was like a week and a half I think it was like a week and a half I think it was like a week and a half because I got lazy. But I haven't had a because I got lazy. But I haven't had a because I got lazy. But I haven't had a lot of problems since then. That was lot of problems since then. That was lot of problems since then. That was over that was at least 15 years ago, over that was at least 15 years ago, over that was at least 15 years ago, maybe closer to 20. >> And that's that's amazing. Like that >> And that's that's amazing. Like that vessel constriction and then that body's vessel constriction and then that body's vessel constriction and then that body's own warming up, right? Because you own warming up, right? Because you own warming up, right? Because you didn't go into anything warm after that, didn't go into anything warm after that, didn't go into anything warm after that, right? You just went for a walk. right? You just went for a walk. right? You just went for a walk. >> Uh yeah. No, I just went for a walk. I >> Uh yeah. No, I just went for a walk. I >> Uh yeah. No, I just went for a walk. I usually did it in the like middayish,

18:00right? And then Yeah, I continued about right? And then Yeah, I continued about my day. my day. my day. >> Yeah. And that's and that's where it's >> Yeah. And that's and that's where it's >> Yeah. And that's and that's where it's very beneficial, too. very beneficial, too. very beneficial, too. >> Like that's where cold can really work >> Like that's where cold can really work >> Like that's where cold can really work to be our friend. to be our friend. to be our friend. And that's the purpose of it. Like And that's the purpose of it. Like And that's the purpose of it. Like that's the reasoning behind cold therapy that's the reasoning behind cold therapy that's the reasoning behind cold therapy is to strengthen that those um is to strengthen that those um is to strengthen that those um circulatory blood vessels. and allow for circulatory blood vessels. and allow for circulatory blood vessels. and allow for the veins to work better because and the the veins to work better because and the the veins to work better because and the arterials to work better because in all arterials to work better because in all arterials to work better because in all reality the veins kind of have the crap reality the veins kind of have the crap reality the veins kind of have the crap end of the stick or the short end of the end of the stick or the short end of the end of the stick or the short end of the stick because they have to work against stick because they have to work against stick because they have to work against gravity gravity gravity >> and they don't have as much smooth >> and they don't have as much smooth >> and they don't have as much smooth muscle muscle muscle >> and they don't have that smooth muscle. >> and they don't have that smooth muscle. >> and they don't have that smooth muscle. So they they need that constriction to So they they need that constriction to So they they need that constriction to help push everything back up. And then help push everything back up. And then help push everything back up. And then with that too, you also have that muscle with that too, you also have that muscle with that too, you also have that muscle contraction which is further promoting contraction which is further promoting contraction which is further promoting that constriction, that vessel that constriction, that vessel that constriction, that vessel constriction. constriction. constriction. What do you think it's doing to our What do you think it's doing to our What do you think it's doing to our lymphatics? lymphatics? lymphatics? >> Oh, I a kickstarter. I think that it is >> Oh, I a kickstarter. I think that it is >> Oh, I a kickstarter. I think that it is promoting lymphatic circulation too

19:00promoting lymphatic circulation too promoting lymphatic circulation too because it's not just the capillaries because it's not just the capillaries because it's not just the capillaries that or not the um not just our that or not the um not just our that or not the um not just our capillaries that are being undergoing capillaries that are being undergoing capillaries that are being undergoing vessel constriction. The lymphatic vessel constriction. The lymphatic vessel constriction. The lymphatic capillaries will be too. So overall capillaries will be too. So overall capillaries will be too. So overall that's how it would indirectly affect that's how it would indirectly affect that's how it would indirectly affect immunity because it would also increase immunity because it would also increase immunity because it would also increase that um the function of the white blood that um the function of the white blood that um the function of the white blood cells making them more active. It would cells making them more active. It would cells making them more active. It would help direct them to the lymph nodes help direct them to the lymph nodes help direct them to the lymph nodes where they can actually be screened and where they can actually be screened and where they can actually be screened and filtered. Mhm. I um I um I love the visual. Maybe I'll try and I love the visual. Maybe I'll try and I love the visual. Maybe I'll try and find it, but I love the visual of the find it, but I love the visual of the find it, but I love the visual of the insides of the walls of art arteries, insides of the walls of art arteries, insides of the walls of art arteries, arteriolis, arteriolis, arteriolis, uh venules, veins, and then the uh venules, veins, and then the uh venules, veins, and then the lymphatics because you can see the the lymphatics because you can see the the lymphatics because you can see the the muscular arteries. There is so much muscular arteries. There is so much muscular arteries. There is so much smooth muscle in those guys. My gosh, it smooth muscle in those guys. My gosh, it smooth muscle in those guys. My gosh, it is packed with smooth muscle. the like is packed with smooth muscle. the like is packed with smooth muscle. the like the the lumen, the hole in the middle is the the lumen, the hole in the middle is the the lumen, the hole in the middle is tiny because there's so much smooth tiny because there's so much smooth tiny because there's so much smooth muscle. And then you get to your your

20:00muscle. And then you get to your your muscle. And then you get to your your later art arteries and your arteriolis later art arteries and your arteriolis later art arteries and your arteriolis and you see that smooth muscle start to and you see that smooth muscle start to and you see that smooth muscle start to pull back a little bit, but there's pull back a little bit, but there's pull back a little bit, but there's still quite a bit of smooth muscle. And still quite a bit of smooth muscle. And still quite a bit of smooth muscle. And then after the capillaries, it's like, then after the capillaries, it's like, then after the capillaries, it's like, where did it all go? There's one tiny where did it all go? There's one tiny where did it all go? There's one tiny little layer. little layer. little layer. >> And then you get valves. >> And then you get valves. >> And then you get valves. >> And then I look at the lymph capillaries >> And then I look at the lymph capillaries >> And then I look at the lymph capillaries and I'm like, there's not even a full and I'm like, there's not even a full and I'm like, there's not even a full layer. in the lymph capillaries like layer. in the lymph capillaries like layer. in the lymph capillaries like around the whole lumen there's not even around the whole lumen there's not even around the whole lumen there's not even it's not even a full layer the whole it's not even a full layer the whole it's not even a full layer the whole time time time >> sometimes there are places where there >> sometimes there are places where there >> sometimes there are places where there is no muscle there's little gaps where is no muscle there's little gaps where is no muscle there's little gaps where there's no smooth muscle in the lymph uh there's no smooth muscle in the lymph uh there's no smooth muscle in the lymph uh arter the lymph vessels and it's like oh arter the lymph vessels and it's like oh arter the lymph vessels and it's like oh my gosh so that's why right like it has my gosh so that's why right like it has my gosh so that's why right like it has to go slower because it does have to to go slower because it does have to to go slower because it does have to move it has to be big and it has to move move it has to be big and it has to move move it has to be big and it has to move bigger things through it um but it's bigger things through it um but it's bigger things through it um but it's like yeah I could see why the cold would like yeah I could see why the cold would like yeah I could see why the cold would be helpful because even with the small be helpful because even with the small be helpful because even with the small amount of of smooth muscle, it'll

21:00amount of of smooth muscle, it'll amount of of smooth muscle, it'll constrict it as much as it can when you constrict it as much as it can when you constrict it as much as it can when you add that cold to it and start pushing add that cold to it and start pushing add that cold to it and start pushing everything upwards. everything upwards. everything upwards. >> Well, and that and it's not just the >> Well, and that and it's not just the >> Well, and that and it's not just the capillaries or the vessels that are capillaries or the vessels that are capillaries or the vessels that are constricting. It's also the muscle, constricting. It's also the muscle, constricting. It's also the muscle, right? And then lymphatics are so right? And then lymphatics are so right? And then lymphatics are so superficial superficial superficial that as that skin tightens and the that as that skin tightens and the that as that skin tightens and the muscles tighten, it would restrict them. muscles tighten, it would restrict them. muscles tighten, it would restrict them. >> Yep. >> Yep. >> Yep. all that crazy smooth muscle. >> Yep. all that crazy smooth muscle. >> Yep. all that crazy smooth muscle. Uh for those of you who are unaware of Uh for those of you who are unaware of Uh for those of you who are unaware of the differences between our muscle the differences between our muscle the differences between our muscle tissue, we have three kinds of major tissue, we have three kinds of major tissue, we have three kinds of major muscle tissue. We've got our sceal muscle tissue. We've got our sceal muscle tissue. We've got our sceal muscles. Those are the ones that we muscles. Those are the ones that we muscles. Those are the ones that we mostly consciously control. I say maybe mostly consciously control. I say maybe mostly consciously control. I say maybe like 30% we consciously control like 30% we consciously control like 30% we consciously control honestly, let's be honest. But you know, honestly, let's be honest. But you know, honestly, let's be honest. But you know, everybody thinks biceps and triceps and everybody thinks biceps and triceps and everybody thinks biceps and triceps and all like all those wonderful muscles. all like all those wonderful muscles. all like all those wonderful muscles. And then you have your smooth muscle And then you have your smooth muscle And then you have your smooth muscle which you find in your blood vessels and which you find in your blood vessels and which you find in your blood vessels and in your organs and it helps to um move in your organs and it helps to um move in your organs and it helps to um move things completely involuntary. We can't things completely involuntary. We can't things completely involuntary. We can't voluntarily think and move those voluntarily think and move those voluntarily think and move those ourselves, right? We can do things that

22:00ourselves, right? We can do things that ourselves, right? We can do things that will help them move more or less, but we will help them move more or less, but we will help them move more or less, but we can't voluntarily go, okay, uh can't voluntarily go, okay, uh can't voluntarily go, okay, uh descending aorta, I need you to contract descending aorta, I need you to contract descending aorta, I need you to contract now. now. now. >> Yeah. Right. >> Yeah. Right. >> Yeah. Right. If only. If only. If only. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. I'd be a bit more concerned when my I'd be a bit more concerned when my I'd be a bit more concerned when my daughter holds her breath if that was daughter holds her breath if that was daughter holds her breath if that was the case. the case. the case. >> Yeah, let's not do that. >> Yeah, let's not do that. >> Yeah, let's not do that. >> And then of course there's the heart >> And then of course there's the heart >> And then of course there's the heart >> whole new level. >> whole new level. >> whole new level. >> Then there's the cardiac muscle, which >> Then there's the cardiac muscle, which >> Then there's the cardiac muscle, which is all the muscles that surround your is all the muscles that surround your is all the muscles that surround your heart and everything. Um heart and everything. Um heart and everything. Um I I have a a fun question for you. Um I I have a a fun question for you. Um I I have a a fun question for you. Um what do you think that the cold is doing what do you think that the cold is doing what do you think that the cold is doing for the gut? for the gut? for the gut? >> It is going to be stimulating it. >> It is going to be stimulating it. >> It is going to be stimulating it. >> Okay. What does that what does that mean >> Okay. What does that what does that mean >> Okay. What does that what does that mean for the people who don't know what that for the people who don't know what that for the people who don't know what that means? means? means? >> Um it kind of wakes it up because the >> Um it kind of wakes it up because the >> Um it kind of wakes it up because the the way it works right cuz cold shuns the way it works right cuz cold shuns the way it works right cuz cold shuns blood away from the area. So you put blood away from the area. So you put blood away from the area. So you put cold on the extremities the body goes cold on the extremities the body goes cold on the extremities the body goes into panic mode and all the blood goes

23:00into panic mode and all the blood goes into panic mode and all the blood goes to the core. to the core. to the core. So in when the blood goes to the core So in when the blood goes to the core So in when the blood goes to the core that is promoting digestive functions that is promoting digestive functions that is promoting digestive functions that is increasing that is increasing that is increasing um just overall organ function in um just overall organ function in um just overall organ function in general. general. general. Um, and then with the heat, blood is Um, and then with the heat, blood is Um, and then with the heat, blood is coming out to the periphery because the coming out to the periphery because the coming out to the periphery because the blood vessels are dilating. So that blood vessels are dilating. So that blood vessels are dilating. So that brings blood away from the core. brings blood away from the core. brings blood away from the core. So that's actually going to do the So that's actually going to do the So that's actually going to do the opposite. So if you really want to wake opposite. So if you really want to wake opposite. So if you really want to wake up the gut, you should put cold. But up the gut, you should put cold. But up the gut, you should put cold. But that's actually another thing that with that's actually another thing that with that's actually another thing that with that surge of blood or that increase in that surge of blood or that increase in that surge of blood or that increase in blood to the core, high blood pressure, blood to the core, high blood pressure, blood to the core, high blood pressure, it blood pressure will spike. So, that's it blood pressure will spike. So, that's it blood pressure will spike. So, that's another thing to be aware of. Um, as far another thing to be aware of. Um, as far another thing to be aware of. Um, as far as conditions go and the use of cold, >> you don't want to be using a lot of cold >> you don't want to be using a lot of cold therapy with someone who has high blood therapy with someone who has high blood therapy with someone who has high blood pressure. Even if it's controlled high pressure. Even if it's controlled high pressure. Even if it's controlled high blood pressure, you want to be mild

24:00blood pressure, you want to be mild blood pressure, you want to be mild cold. You don't want to be the extremes cold. You don't want to be the extremes cold. You don't want to be the extremes of cold, right? And you have to be of cold, right? And you have to be of cold, right? And you have to be really aware with people who are really aware with people who are really aware with people who are pregnant, people who have uh diabetes, pregnant, people who have uh diabetes, pregnant, people who have uh diabetes, >> right? people who have gone through >> right? people who have gone through >> right? people who have gone through chemotherapy or radiation there's the chemotherapy or radiation there's the chemotherapy or radiation there's the the the body's reaction in the the the body's reaction in the the the body's reaction in the extremities very different now >> very different now next week I have a >> very different now next week I have a story for that because next week we're story for that because next week we're story for that because next week we're talking hot talking hot talking hot >> so I'll bring that up next week but I >> so I'll bring that up next week but I >> so I'll bring that up next week but I have it's freaking awesome have it's freaking awesome have it's freaking awesome right but um I've known a number of right but um I've known a number of right but um I've known a number of people with diabetes and you try to do people with diabetes and you try to do people with diabetes and you try to do cold therapy on the lower limb cold therapy on the lower limb cold therapy on the lower limb specifically, especially if you try to specifically, especially if you try to specifically, especially if you try to do like calf wraps or anything like do like calf wraps or anything like do like calf wraps or anything like that, you have to be super careful that, you have to be super careful that, you have to be super careful because they're likely going into um because they're likely going into um because they're likely going into um like every day they're getting closer like every day they're getting closer like every day they're getting closer and closer to not having proper and closer to not having proper and closer to not having proper sensation in their feet, sensation in their feet, sensation in their feet, right? Their feet, their hands. Uh right? Their feet, their hands. Uh right? Their feet, their hands. Uh especially the feet, it seems like it it especially the feet, it seems like it it especially the feet, it seems like it it always attacks there first.

25:00always attacks there first. always attacks there first. >> Do you think it's cuz it's like furthest >> Do you think it's cuz it's like furthest >> Do you think it's cuz it's like furthest from the brain? from the brain? from the brain? >> Um yeah, and it's the closest to the >> Um yeah, and it's the closest to the >> Um yeah, and it's the closest to the ground where everything's being pulled ground where everything's being pulled ground where everything's being pulled down to, right? So it it honestly our down to, right? So it it honestly our down to, right? So it it honestly our feet get battered. They really do. They get battered the They really do. They get battered the most. I also think that um the lower most. I also think that um the lower most. I also think that um the lower limb because everything in the lower limb because everything in the lower limb because everything in the lower limb the nerves that are coming from it limb the nerves that are coming from it limb the nerves that are coming from it all get their cell bodies uh especially all get their cell bodies uh especially all get their cell bodies uh especially their their motor cell bodies they're their their motor cell bodies they're their their motor cell bodies they're all clustered in the same region near all clustered in the same region near all clustered in the same region near the like connection between the thoracic the like connection between the thoracic the like connection between the thoracic and lumbar region. and lumbar region. and lumbar region. >> Mhm. >> Mhm. >> Mhm. >> Right. Because from there it's just >> Right. Because from there it's just >> Right. Because from there it's just nerves that are coming out. It's not the nerves that are coming out. It's not the nerves that are coming out. It's not the actual cord anymore. actual cord anymore. actual cord anymore. >> It's nerves. So all of that stuff gets >> It's nerves. So all of that stuff gets >> It's nerves. So all of that stuff gets clustered and I think we have more clustered and I think we have more clustered and I think we have more problems with our lower limbs and our problems with our lower limbs and our problems with our lower limbs and our upper limbs because we have a cluster of upper limbs because we have a cluster of upper limbs because we have a cluster of nerves that are or or nerve cell bodies nerves that are or or nerve cell bodies nerves that are or or nerve cell bodies that are all just in one or two segments

26:00that are all just in one or two segments that are all just in one or two segments instead of everywhere else where there's instead of everywhere else where there's instead of everywhere else where there's not clusters of one or two segments. not clusters of one or two segments. not clusters of one or two segments. Everywhere else has its own segment. >> So then Okay. And then we also have a >> So then Okay. And then we also have a like low back glute tension too. That's like low back glute tension too. That's like low back glute tension too. That's a pretty common thing. So that would a pretty common thing. So that would a pretty common thing. So that would also probably contribute to that too. also probably contribute to that too. also probably contribute to that too. Hey. Hey. Hey. >> Mhm. Oh, that would be a fun like whole >> Mhm. Oh, that would be a fun like whole >> Mhm. Oh, that would be a fun like whole thing to do. Find pictures and show you thing to do. Find pictures and show you thing to do. Find pictures and show you what it all looks like because it's it's what it all looks like because it's it's what it all looks like because it's it's something that we don't consciously something that we don't consciously something that we don't consciously think about when we have people who come think about when we have people who come think about when we have people who come in with lower body pain. in with lower body pain. in with lower body pain. >> Mhm. >> Mhm. >> Right. Is >> Right. Is >> Right. Is those nerves I feel are working double those nerves I feel are working double those nerves I feel are working double time because they have to fight against time because they have to fight against time because they have to fight against all the other nerve cell bodies that are all the other nerve cell bodies that are all the other nerve cell bodies that are there. Like there's not a lot of room. >> Makes you wonder a little bit about >> Makes you wonder a little bit about sciatica. sciatica. sciatica. >> Yeah. I hate I was just going to say >> Yeah. I hate I was just going to say >> Yeah. I hate I was just going to say like that could be one of those kind of like that could be one of those kind of like that could be one of those kind of ahas like maybe when we're so focused on ahas like maybe when we're so focused on ahas like maybe when we're so focused on that purapiformis that purapiformis that purapiformis and we're focused on like the problem and we're focused on like the problem and we're focused on like the problem areas where the symptoms are. I wonder

27:00areas where the symptoms are. I wonder areas where the symptoms are. I wonder if maybe something as simple as like a if maybe something as simple as like a if maybe something as simple as like a sacral decompression or um intentional sacral decompression or um intentional sacral decompression or um intentional movement could actually make more of a movement could actually make more of a movement could actually make more of a difference than manual manipulation. difference than manual manipulation. difference than manual manipulation. >> Yeah. Well, I mean, and even just >> Yeah. Well, I mean, and even just >> Yeah. Well, I mean, and even just looking at the um the positioning of the looking at the um the positioning of the looking at the um the positioning of the ribs, because it goes as high as the ribs, because it goes as high as the ribs, because it goes as high as the lower ribs, the floating ribs, lower ribs, the floating ribs, lower ribs, the floating ribs, >> it can go as high as the floating ribs. >> it can go as high as the floating ribs. >> it can go as high as the floating ribs. And are those floating ribs out? >> They're the easiest ones to get out. >> They're the easiest ones to get out. >> Yeah. >> This is so much. >> Uh do you put cold on the lower back >> Uh do you put cold on the lower back ever? ever? ever? Um, sometimes like not usually. Um, sometimes like not usually. Um, sometimes like not usually. Um, but I definitely will, especially if Um, but I definitely will, especially if Um, but I definitely will, especially if somebody has something like somebody has something like somebody has something like um like like lots of edema or there's um like like lots of edema or there's um like like lots of edema or there's there's really they're really congested there's really they're really congested there's really they're really congested or bloated, I will use that cold more

28:00or bloated, I will use that cold more or bloated, I will use that cold more like a as a heating compress though. So, like a as a heating compress though. So, like a as a heating compress though. So, I'll put it cold and I'll make the body I'll put it cold and I'll make the body I'll put it cold and I'll make the body warm it up. warm it up. warm it up. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> I personally don't use a lot of ice in >> I personally don't use a lot of ice in >> I personally don't use a lot of ice in my treatment. And I don't really suggest my treatment. And I don't really suggest my treatment. And I don't really suggest a lot of ice either. I'll usually go a lot of ice either. I'll usually go a lot of ice either. I'll usually go with like ice water with a cold cloth, with like ice water with a cold cloth, with like ice water with a cold cloth, like put the cloth in the ice water and like put the cloth in the ice water and like put the cloth in the ice water and then when it's no longer cold, replace then when it's no longer cold, replace then when it's no longer cold, replace it. it. it. >> Mhm. >> Mhm. >> Kind of with those cold compresses. Like >> Kind of with those cold compresses. Like >> Kind of with those cold compresses. Like that's more so what I promote with my that's more so what I promote with my that's more so what I promote with my clients because it's more manageable and clients because it's more manageable and clients because it's more manageable and the risk of a negative reaction is less. the risk of a negative reaction is less. the risk of a negative reaction is less. >> Yeah. I've stopped putting cold on lower >> Yeah. I've stopped putting cold on lower >> Yeah. I've stopped putting cold on lower backs. backs. backs. >> Why? completely because of the nerves. >> Why? completely because of the nerves. >> Why? completely because of the nerves. >> Oh, I see. >> Oh, I see. >> Oh, I see. >> Yeah. I've stopped putting cold on there >> Yeah. I've stopped putting cold on there >> Yeah. I've stopped putting cold on there um anywhere close to the spine at all. I um anywhere close to the spine at all. I um anywhere close to the spine at all. I I no longer promote cold there unless I no longer promote cold there unless I no longer promote cold there unless I've done frictions in which case I will I've done frictions in which case I will I've done frictions in which case I will do ice massage there and then I will do ice massage there and then I will do ice massage there and then I will immediately warm the area up immediately warm the area up immediately warm the area up >> right after.

29:00>> right after. >> right after. Right. But yeah, no, I don't put uh I'll Right. But yeah, no, I don't put uh I'll Right. But yeah, no, I don't put uh I'll put cold on the front of the trunk, but put cold on the front of the trunk, but put cold on the front of the trunk, but the low back particularly because those the low back particularly because those the low back particularly because those nerves are fighting a lot like they're I nerves are fighting a lot like they're I nerves are fighting a lot like they're I shouldn't say they're fighting. They're shouldn't say they're fighting. They're shouldn't say they're fighting. They're not fighting to survive or anything. not fighting to survive or anything. not fighting to survive or anything. They're they're programmed and made to They're they're programmed and made to They're they're programmed and made to survive in that atmosphere, but I don't survive in that atmosphere, but I don't survive in that atmosphere, but I don't want to put any more strain or stress on want to put any more strain or stress on want to put any more strain or stress on them by putting cold on the lower back. them by putting cold on the lower back. them by putting cold on the lower back. >> Well, and that kind of makes sense >> Well, and that kind of makes sense >> Well, and that kind of makes sense because they are the fight or flight, because they are the fight or flight, because they are the fight or flight, right? those nerves in the lumbossacral right? those nerves in the lumbossacral right? those nerves in the lumbossacral plexus they are going to kick that bear plexus they are going to kick that bear plexus they are going to kick that bear or run. So cold is very stimulating. or run. So cold is very stimulating. or run. So cold is very stimulating. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> So it I could see how that would kind of >> So it I could see how that would kind of >> So it I could see how that would kind of wake everything up and stress them out a wake everything up and stress them out a wake everything up and stress them out a little bit. little bit. little bit. >> Yeah. It's so funny with the fight >> Yeah. It's so funny with the fight >> Yeah. It's so funny with the fight orflight versus rest and digest. We talk orflight versus rest and digest. We talk orflight versus rest and digest. We talk about the sacral nerves are restraig and about the sacral nerves are restraig and about the sacral nerves are restraig and the you know and and and you've got the the you know and and and you've got the the you know and and and you've got the the thoracic region that are more fight the thoracic region that are more fight the thoracic region that are more fight or flight but they're still within two

30:00or flight but they're still within two or flight but they're still within two segments of each other their their cell segments of each other their their cell segments of each other their their cell bodies. bodies. bodies. >> Oh and then the sciatic nerve is a fight >> Oh and then the sciatic nerve is a fight >> Oh and then the sciatic nerve is a fight or flight or flight or flight >> which is so weird because it comes out >> which is so weird because it comes out >> which is so weird because it comes out of L45 S123 4 which are supposed to be of L45 S123 4 which are supposed to be of L45 S123 4 which are supposed to be more more more >> rest and adjust. >> rest and adjust. >> rest and adjust. >> Yeah. There's always that's the thing >> Yeah. There's always that's the thing >> Yeah. There's always that's the thing with the body man. You have your rules with the body man. You have your rules with the body man. You have your rules and then you have the curve balls and then you have the curve balls and then you have the curve balls >> which is sometimes I think there are >> which is sometimes I think there are >> which is sometimes I think there are more curve balls than rules. more curve balls than rules. more curve balls than rules. >> There's so depending on what we're >> There's so depending on what we're >> There's so depending on what we're talking about. But yeah, there are a lot talking about. But yeah, there are a lot talking about. But yeah, there are a lot of curve balls. A lot of curve balls. of curve balls. A lot of curve balls. of curve balls. A lot of curve balls. >> Oh, that's so funny. >> Oh, that's so funny. >> Oh, that's so funny. >> They drive me baddy sometimes. So like, >> They drive me baddy sometimes. So like, >> They drive me baddy sometimes. So like, oh, that one's cool. But most of the oh, that one's cool. But most of the oh, that one's cool. But most of the time like you suck. time like you suck. time like you suck. Why can't you follow our rule? Why can't you follow our rule? Why can't you follow our rule? >> Yeah, follow the rule, you dumb dumb. >> Yeah, follow the rule, you dumb dumb. >> Yeah, follow the rule, you dumb dumb. Uh so what do you think is is cold the Uh so what do you think is is cold the Uh so what do you think is is cold the gold that is that they say it is right gold that is that they say it is right gold that is that they say it is right now or or is it not the gold that you now or or is it not the gold that you now or or is it not the gold that you that they say it is? What do you think? that they say it is? What do you think? that they say it is? What do you think? >> I think if it's used responsibly. >> I think if it's used responsibly. >> I think if it's used responsibly. It is there is a lot of benefit to cold

31:00It is there is a lot of benefit to cold It is there is a lot of benefit to cold therapies and I am not against cold therapies and I am not against cold therapies and I am not against cold therapies at all. I just think that the therapies at all. I just think that the therapies at all. I just think that the education needs to be there and the education needs to be there and the education needs to be there and the information needs to be present with all information needs to be present with all information needs to be present with all of these with these new treatments that of these with these new treatments that of these with these new treatments that come through that become fads. come through that become fads. come through that become fads. >> Yeah. Well, isn't that the truth every >> Yeah. Well, isn't that the truth every >> Yeah. Well, isn't that the truth every time? time? time? >> Well, that's just it because cold is >> Well, that's just it because cold is >> Well, that's just it because cold is really good. Like it's good for like really good. Like it's good for like really good. Like it's good for like mental awareness. It'll wake you up. mental awareness. It'll wake you up. mental awareness. It'll wake you up. Like I during exams, I would dry brush Like I during exams, I would dry brush Like I during exams, I would dry brush and cold all the time. That's what it and cold all the time. That's what it and cold all the time. That's what it was. cold dry brush cold when cold was. cold dry brush cold when cold was. cold dry brush cold when cold mitten friction that's what I would do mitten friction that's what I would do mitten friction that's what I would do to wake myself up for exams kind of even to wake myself up for exams kind of even to wake myself up for exams kind of even before studying that's what I would do before studying that's what I would do before studying that's what I would do and that would wake me up and it was and that would wake me up and it was and that would wake me up and it was beneficial and it was good but it was beneficial and it was good but it was beneficial and it was good but it was used responsibly and there's a lot of used responsibly and there's a lot of used responsibly and there's a lot of people too that have underlying people too that have underlying people too that have underlying conditions conditions conditions >> and the education is not there so in >> and the education is not there so in >> and the education is not there so in that situation like rain odds that situation like rain odds that situation like rain odds right if you don't know you have it right if you don't know you have it right if you don't know you have it necessarily you just have cold feet but necessarily you just have cold feet but necessarily you just have cold feet but cold is good for

32:00cold is good for cold is good for All of a sudden your feet are so sore All of a sudden your feet are so sore All of a sudden your feet are so sore and you don't know why. Well, it's and you don't know why. Well, it's and you don't know why. Well, it's because you're not educated in what because you're not educated in what because you're not educated in what Rayods actually is. Rayods actually is. Rayods actually is. >> Mhm. >> Mhm. >> And it's more than just poor circulation or things like even with heart problems or things like even with heart problems like there's no it's oh it increases like there's no it's oh it increases like there's no it's oh it increases circulation. It's really good for your circulation. It's really good for your circulation. It's really good for your circulatory system. It is but if you circulatory system. It is but if you circulatory system. It is but if you have a circulatory pathology it's not. have a circulatory pathology it's not. have a circulatory pathology it's not. >> It's not. It's awful for you actually. >> It's not. It's awful for you actually. >> It's not. It's awful for you actually. >> Yeah. So I think that that's just where >> Yeah. So I think that that's just where >> Yeah. So I think that that's just where the big flaw is in the cold aspect of the big flaw is in the cold aspect of the big flaw is in the cold aspect of things because you have these fads and things because you have these fads and things because you have these fads and they they come out in all the all the they they come out in all the all the they they come out in all the all the ways like cupping diet all the fad diets ways like cupping diet all the fad diets ways like cupping diet all the fad diets that come out all these fat treatments that come out all these fat treatments that come out all these fat treatments but the education is not there. This the but the education is not there. This the but the education is not there. This the contra indications are not there or your contra indications are not there or your contra indications are not there or your cautions aren't there and then the cautions aren't there and then the cautions aren't there and then the indications or why they're good for you indications or why they're good for you indications or why they're good for you are so general. are so general. are so general. >> Yeah. They don't go into the specifics >> Yeah. They don't go into the specifics >> Yeah. They don't go into the specifics enough. enough. enough. >> That's right. And it's and that's where >> That's right. And it's and that's where >> That's right. And it's and that's where there's a big fault like flaw too like I

33:00there's a big fault like flaw too like I there's a big fault like flaw too like I was also reading like u when I was doing was also reading like u when I was doing was also reading like u when I was doing boat safety um a majority of re of boat safety um a majority of re of boat safety um a majority of re of drowning is because when you fall off drowning is because when you fall off drowning is because when you fall off the boat the water is cold you cease. the boat the water is cold you cease. the boat the water is cold you cease. You can't swim if you don't have a life You can't swim if you don't have a life You can't swim if you don't have a life jacket on. jacket on. jacket on. >> Mhm. And that is one of the leading >> Mhm. And that is one of the leading >> Mhm. And that is one of the leading causes of drowning actually is the causes of drowning actually is the causes of drowning actually is the inability to actually function inability to actually function inability to actually function >> because it's so cold your body just goes >> because it's so cold your body just goes >> because it's so cold your body just goes >> nope. >> nope. >> nope. >> And that's and that's a thing too that >> And that's and that's a thing too that >> And that's and that's a thing too that it's really important to be aware of it's really important to be aware of it's really important to be aware of especially when you are doing cold especially when you are doing cold especially when you are doing cold plunges like in the Arctic like in um plunges like in the Arctic like in um plunges like in the Arctic like in um the Northwest Territories they do the the Northwest Territories they do the the Northwest Territories they do the lake perch they do the lake run during lake perch they do the lake run during lake perch they do the lake run during the thawing they'll like run into the the thawing they'll like run into the the thawing they'll like run into the thawing river and then they'll run back thawing river and then they'll run back thawing river and then they'll run back out and then they have a big bonfire out and then they have a big bonfire out and then they have a big bonfire after. after. after. Um, and that's one of those where Yeah. Um, and that's one of those where Yeah. Um, and that's one of those where Yeah. Okay. There is benefit to that, Okay. There is benefit to that, Okay. There is benefit to that, especially if your body is conditioned especially if your body is conditioned especially if your body is conditioned to it. to it. to it. >> Mhm. >> Mhm. >> But don't go jump off a dock. >> But don't go jump off a dock. >> But don't go jump off a dock. >> No. >> No. >> No. >> And make and like expect it to be okay. >> And make and like expect it to be okay. >> And make and like expect it to be okay. Like it's a slow run where you can still

34:00Like it's a slow run where you can still Like it's a slow run where you can still touch and there's people around you that touch and there's people around you that touch and there's people around you that can help. can help. can help. >> That that that one that one. >> That that that one that one. >> That that that one that one. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Like make sure if you ever do any of >> Like make sure if you ever do any of >> Like make sure if you ever do any of this stuff that you are not alone, this stuff that you are not alone, this stuff that you are not alone, >> right? Strength and numbers always. >> right? Strength and numbers always. >> right? Strength and numbers always. safety and numbers. safety and numbers. safety and numbers. >> Yeah. I have one more one more question >> Yeah. I have one more one more question >> Yeah. I have one more one more question for you. for you. for you. The uh the cold not the cold plunge, but The uh the cold not the cold plunge, but The uh the cold not the cold plunge, but the cold rooms where you go in, you have the cold rooms where you go in, you have the cold rooms where you go in, you have the tu and the mits and and the you're the tu and the mits and and the you're the tu and the mits and and the you're wearing your shoes and then they blast wearing your shoes and then they blast wearing your shoes and then they blast you with the cold for like 30 seconds. you with the cold for like 30 seconds. you with the cold for like 30 seconds. What do you think of those? I I want to What do you think of those? I I want to What do you think of those? I I want to know your thoughts. know your thoughts. know your thoughts. Personally, my first reaction to that is Personally, my first reaction to that is Personally, my first reaction to that is gross. But, But, um, again, as long as you're as long as um, again, as long as you're as long as um, again, as long as you're as long as you're immediate, like you have your 30 you're immediate, like you have your 30 you're immediate, like you have your 30 secondond time frame, as long as there's secondond time frame, as long as there's secondond time frame, as long as there's that communication there. Um, and you do that communication there. Um, and you do that communication there. Um, and you do have your protective coverings like your have your protective coverings like your have your protective coverings like your mitts and your toque and your gloves. mitts and your toque and your gloves. mitts and your toque and your gloves. Um, and as long as again there's that

35:00Um, and as long as again there's that Um, and as long as again there's that communication and you are listening communication and you are listening communication and you are listening because it' be follow the same rules. because it' be follow the same rules. because it' be follow the same rules. cold, burning, aching, numb. cold, burning, aching, numb. cold, burning, aching, numb. Same rules. Same rules. Same rules. >> And that is very much my guideline with >> And that is very much my guideline with >> And that is very much my guideline with cold. Whatever you're doing, cold. Whatever you're doing, cold. Whatever you're doing, >> make sure you're going through those >> make sure you're going through those >> make sure you're going through those stages because if you're not going stages because if you're not going stages because if you're not going through those stages, your body is not through those stages, your body is not through those stages, your body is not reacting properly. You're right. It reacting properly. You're right. It reacting properly. You're right. It should get you should feel cold and then should get you should feel cold and then should get you should feel cold and then you should have a feeling of of burning. you should have a feeling of of burning. you should have a feeling of of burning. That's pretty normal feeling while That's pretty normal feeling while That's pretty normal feeling while everything is everything is everything is uh it'll start to ache because the body uh it'll start to ache because the body uh it'll start to ache because the body is trying to push into is trying to push into is trying to push into that region where all of the blood that region where all of the blood that region where all of the blood vessels are are uh constricted and vessels are are uh constricted and vessels are are uh constricted and short. That's where the the aching comes short. That's where the the aching comes short. That's where the the aching comes from. And then you should go numb. Your from. And then you should go numb. Your from. And then you should go numb. Your nerves should just give up. As soon as nerves should just give up. As soon as nerves should just give up. As soon as you go numb, you go numb, you go numb, >> you're done. >> you're done. >> you're done. >> You're done. >> You're done. >> You're done. And and like another thing to really And and like another thing to really And and like another thing to really watch out for like I guess you can't

36:00watch out for like I guess you can't watch out for like I guess you can't really see but I'm really cold too but I really see but I'm really cold too but I really see but I'm really cold too but I don't know if you can don't know if you can don't know if you can >> oh not a little bit >> oh not a little bit >> oh not a little bit >> I don't know if you can see kind of the >> I don't know if you can see kind of the >> I don't know if you can see kind of the >> like that hyperpigmentation the >> like that hyperpigmentation the >> like that hyperpigmentation the blotchies. blotchies. blotchies. >> This is like a negative reaction. That's >> This is like a negative reaction. That's >> This is like a negative reaction. That's what it looks like. That's a negative what it looks like. That's a negative what it looks like. That's a negative reaction to cold. reaction to cold. reaction to cold. >> So that's another thing to be very aware >> So that's another thing to be very aware >> So that's another thing to be very aware of if you do have like I'm just in my of if you do have like I'm just in my of if you do have like I'm just in my house right now house right now house right now >> and I'm having that reaction. So, I >> and I'm having that reaction. So, I >> and I'm having that reaction. So, I would I personally do not respond very would I personally do not respond very would I personally do not respond very well to cold cold treatments because of well to cold cold treatments because of well to cold cold treatments because of my my my my reaction to the cold. And that's my reaction to the cold. And that's my reaction to the cold. And that's something to be aware of, too. If you do something to be aware of, too. If you do something to be aware of, too. If you do have those negative reactions, cold is have those negative reactions, cold is have those negative reactions, cold is not for you. not for you. not for you. It is not for you. You can you can maybe It is not for you. You can you can maybe It is not for you. You can you can maybe go to like cool, work your way out, see go to like cool, work your way out, see go to like cool, work your way out, see how you see how you adjust as your body how you see how you adjust as your body how you see how you adjust as your body adapts to the different temperatures. adapts to the different temperatures. adapts to the different temperatures. But for me, extremes in temperature, But for me, extremes in temperature, But for me, extremes in temperature, they are not good for me. they are not good for me. they are not good for me. >> Either way,

37:00>> Either way, >> Either way, >> is very different. >> So, >> So, >> all right. Well, I hope you guys learned >> all right. Well, I hope you guys learned >> all right. Well, I hope you guys learned a lot today, especially with the C band. a lot today, especially with the C band. a lot today, especially with the C band. I think that's probably the biggest I think that's probably the biggest I think that's probably the biggest takeaway. Honestly, the biggest takeaway takeaway. Honestly, the biggest takeaway takeaway. Honestly, the biggest takeaway is uh is uh is uh knowing what you're supposed to be knowing what you're supposed to be knowing what you're supposed to be feeling and when to stop those feelings. feeling and when to stop those feelings. feeling and when to stop those feelings. I think that's that's the hugest part I think that's that's the hugest part I think that's that's the hugest part about gold. And I think that personally about gold. And I think that personally about gold. And I think that personally I think that gold is gold, but it's only I think that gold is gold, but it's only I think that gold is gold, but it's only gold when you are being safe, right? gold when you are being safe, right? gold when you are being safe, right? Just like mining for gold, you have to Just like mining for gold, you have to Just like mining for gold, you have to be safe while mining for gold, you have be safe while mining for gold, you have be safe while mining for gold, you have to be safe while using gold. to be safe while using gold. to be safe while using gold. >> Yes, I completely support that that >> Yes, I completely support that that >> Yes, I completely support that that statement. statement. statement. >> Yeah, pretty good. All right, so uh if >> Yeah, pretty good. All right, so uh if >> Yeah, pretty good. All right, so uh if you wish, you can see down below here you wish, you can see down below here you wish, you can see down below here you've got our uh places where you can you've got our uh places where you can you've got our uh places where you can find us. CNC Learning Hub, of course, is find us. CNC Learning Hub, of course, is find us. CNC Learning Hub, of course, is going to be the business itself. Cora going to be the business itself. Cora going to be the business itself. Cora has her own with Cora Peters RMT. I have has her own with Cora Peters RMT. I have has her own with Cora Peters RMT. I have my own Just Massage Therapist. Uh these my own Just Massage Therapist. Uh these my own Just Massage Therapist. Uh these guys are all on Instagram.

38:00guys are all on Instagram. guys are all on Instagram. Um and I believe Facebook. You have Um and I believe Facebook. You have Um and I believe Facebook. You have yours on Facebook as well, right? yours on Facebook as well, right? yours on Facebook as well, right? >> Oh, yeah. >> Oh, yeah. >> Oh, yeah. >> Yeah. The Just Massage Therapist is not >> Yeah. The Just Massage Therapist is not >> Yeah. The Just Massage Therapist is not on Facebook. I literally never go on on Facebook. I literally never go on on Facebook. I literally never go on there. there. there. >> Learning Hub is >> Learning Hub is >> Learning Hub is >> Yeah. CNC Learning Hub and Kora both >> Yeah. CNC Learning Hub and Kora both >> Yeah. CNC Learning Hub and Kora both are. So, if you want to go ahead and uh are. So, if you want to go ahead and uh are. So, if you want to go ahead and uh uh follow us there, that'd be great. uh follow us there, that'd be great. uh follow us there, that'd be great. Otherwise, this was good. That was a Otherwise, this was good. That was a Otherwise, this was good. That was a good chat. And I'm glad to be back from good chat. And I'm glad to be back from good chat. And I'm glad to be back from our winter break, our Christmas E break. our winter break, our Christmas E break. our winter break, our Christmas E break. Um Um Um >> happy new year, by the way. >> happy new year, by the way. >> happy new year, by the way. >> Yeah, happy new year, everybody. Next >> Yeah, happy new year, everybody. Next >> Yeah, happy new year, everybody. Next week, we'll be talking about the week, we'll be talking about the week, we'll be talking about the opposite. We'll be talking about heat opposite. We'll be talking about heat opposite. We'll be talking about heat therapy. therapy. therapy. >> That's where I like I like heat a lot >> That's where I like I like heat a lot >> That's where I like I like heat a lot more than cold. >> Yeah, I like them both. I use them both >> Yeah, I like them both. I use them both quite often. quite often. quite often. Yeah. All right, cool. We will see you Yeah. All right, cool. We will see you Yeah. All right, cool. We will see you in the next video.

Just Massage Therapists Podcast Season 2 Episode 11 Is Cold Gold