Unlocking the Power of Infrared Sauna Therapy for Health and Longevity - Full Transcript

00:00Welcome to Better Health Guy blogcasts, Welcome to Better Health Guy blogcasts, empowering your better health. And now, empowering your better health. And now, empowering your better health. And now, here's Scott, your better health guy. here's Scott, your better health guy. here's Scott, your better health guy. [Music] [Music] [Music] The content of this show is The content of this show is The content of this show is forformational purposes only and is not forformational purposes only and is not forformational purposes only and is not intended to diagnose, treat, or cure any intended to diagnose, treat, or cure any intended to diagnose, treat, or cure any illness or medical condition. Nothing in illness or medical condition. Nothing in illness or medical condition. Nothing in today's discussion is meant to serve as today's discussion is meant to serve as today's discussion is meant to serve as medical advice or as information to medical advice or as information to medical advice or as information to facilitate self- treatment. As always, facilitate self- treatment. As always, facilitate self- treatment. As always, please discuss any potential health please discuss any potential health please discuss any potential health rellated decisions with your own rellated decisions with your own rellated decisions with your own personal medical authority. Hello personal medical authority. Hello personal medical authority. Hello everyone and welcome to episode 219 of everyone and welcome to episode 219 of everyone and welcome to episode 219 of the Better Health Guy blog series. the Better Health Guy blog series. the Better Health Guy blog series. Today's guest is Connie Zack and the Today's guest is Connie Zack and the Today's guest is Connie Zack and the topic of the show is detox, heal, topic of the show is detox, heal, topic of the show is detox, heal, thrive, the power of sauna therapy. thrive, the power of sauna therapy. thrive, the power of sauna therapy. Connie Zach, co-founder of Sunlighten, Connie Zach, co-founder of Sunlighten, Connie Zach, co-founder of Sunlighten, the world leader in infrared sauna and the world leader in infrared sauna and the world leader in infrared sauna and light therapy, was inspired by her light therapy, was inspired by her light therapy, was inspired by her brother's health transformation through brother's health transformation through brother's health transformation through infrared sauna use. She and her husband

01:00infrared sauna use. She and her husband infrared sauna use. She and her husband Aaron left successful pharmaceutical Aaron left successful pharmaceutical Aaron left successful pharmaceutical careers to create sunlighten 25 years careers to create sunlighten 25 years careers to create sunlighten 25 years ago, revolutionizing the infrared sauna ago, revolutionizing the infrared sauna ago, revolutionizing the infrared sauna industry with researchbacked innovations industry with researchbacked innovations industry with researchbacked innovations and global education on its benefits. A and global education on its benefits. A and global education on its benefits. A trailblazer in light therapy, Conniey's trailblazer in light therapy, Conniey's trailblazer in light therapy, Conniey's passion for holistic health drives her passion for holistic health drives her passion for holistic health drives her commitment to nutrition, exercise, commitment to nutrition, exercise, commitment to nutrition, exercise, mindfulness, and infrared therapy. mindfulness, and infrared therapy. mindfulness, and infrared therapy. Sharing light, hope, and expertise on Sharing light, hope, and expertise on Sharing light, hope, and expertise on how infrared impacts a healthy lifespan. how infrared impacts a healthy lifespan. how infrared impacts a healthy lifespan. And now, my interview with Connie Zack. And now, my interview with Connie Zack. And now, my interview with Connie Zack. Today we have a trailblazer of more than Today we have a trailblazer of more than Today we have a trailblazer of more than two decades and a ray of light, no pun two decades and a ray of light, no pun two decades and a ray of light, no pun intended, in the realm of sauna therapy intended, in the realm of sauna therapy intended, in the realm of sauna therapy to talk with us about how sauna might to talk with us about how sauna might to talk with us about how sauna might support those of us dealing with complex support those of us dealing with complex support those of us dealing with complex chronic illnesses and those looking to chronic illnesses and those looking to chronic illnesses and those looking to optimize our health. It's also optimize our health. It's also optimize our health. It's also interesting that my very first episode interesting that my very first episode interesting that my very first episode of the podcast was also related to of the podcast was also related to of the podcast was also related to sunlighten. That was actually before I

02:00sunlighten. That was actually before I sunlighten. That was actually before I even knew there was going to be a even knew there was going to be a even knew there was going to be a podcast. And so here we are now more podcast. And so here we are now more podcast. And so here we are now more than 200 episodes later. So kind of a than 200 episodes later. So kind of a than 200 episodes later. So kind of a full circle moment. Thanks so much for full circle moment. Thanks so much for full circle moment. Thanks so much for being here, Connie. Thank you so much being here, Connie. Thank you so much being here, Connie. Thank you so much for having me. So let's talk a little for having me. So let's talk a little for having me. So let's talk a little bit first about your personal story, how bit first about your personal story, how bit first about your personal story, how you became interested in sauna therapy you became interested in sauna therapy you became interested in sauna therapy more than two decades ago. What was it more than two decades ago. What was it more than two decades ago. What was it that drove and now drives your passion that drove and now drives your passion that drove and now drives your passion for the work that you do to help others for the work that you do to help others for the work that you do to help others today? Yeah, happy to to share that. So today? Yeah, happy to to share that. So today? Yeah, happy to to share that. So long time ago, my brother was really long time ago, my brother was really long time ago, my brother was really chronically ill and he was young and it chronically ill and he was young and it chronically ill and he was young and it was devastating to our family to watch was devastating to our family to watch was devastating to our family to watch him go through this illness. And it was him go through this illness. And it was him go through this illness. And it was ultimately his dentist who he was seeing ultimately his dentist who he was seeing ultimately his dentist who he was seeing for trying to change his fillings for trying to change his fillings for trying to change his fillings because he had mercury fillings. And his because he had mercury fillings. And his because he had mercury fillings. And his dentist said, "Jason, I think this is dentist said, "Jason, I think this is dentist said, "Jason, I think this is what's causing all of your fatigue and what's causing all of your fatigue and what's causing all of your fatigue and all of your sickness and everything that all of your sickness and everything that all of your sickness and everything that you're experiencing. I think this you're experiencing. I think this you're experiencing. I think this mercury is getting into your body and

03:00mercury is getting into your body and mercury is getting into your body and it's leading to you know all the it's leading to you know all the it's leading to you know all the conditions that he was experiencing and conditions that he was experiencing and conditions that he was experiencing and he said I I have read about some he said I I have read about some he said I I have read about some interesting science about a technology interesting science about a technology interesting science about a technology called infrared and that it may help to called infrared and that it may help to called infrared and that it may help to support detoxification of you know hard support detoxification of you know hard support detoxification of you know hard hard to elements such as mercury. And so hard to elements such as mercury. And so hard to elements such as mercury. And so my brother first started with a a my brother first started with a a my brother first started with a a blanket in that had infrared fibers in blanket in that had infrared fibers in blanket in that had infrared fibers in it and that didn't do anything. And so it and that didn't do anything. And so it and that didn't do anything. And so then he bought an infrared sauna and it then he bought an infrared sauna and it then he bought an infrared sauna and it changed his life slowly but surely. And changed his life slowly but surely. And changed his life slowly but surely. And I was watching him transform his body I was watching him transform his body I was watching him transform his body naturally and safely, you know, in the naturally and safely, you know, in the naturally and safely, you know, in the comfort of his own home. And I had a comfort of his own home. And I had a comfort of his own home. And I had a light bulb moment where because I was in light bulb moment where because I was in light bulb moment where because I was in at PNG, I was at Proctor and Gamble in at PNG, I was at Proctor and Gamble in at PNG, I was at Proctor and Gamble in the pharmaceutical side of the business the pharmaceutical side of the business the pharmaceutical side of the business and I was passionate still am to help and I was passionate still am to help and I was passionate still am to help people, you know, live healthier lives people, you know, live healthier lives people, you know, live healthier lives and to make a difference in this world. and to make a difference in this world.

04:00and to make a difference in this world. And when I saw that my brother did this And when I saw that my brother did this And when I saw that my brother did this without medicine and the comfort of his without medicine and the comfort of his without medicine and the comfort of his own home and, you know, went from being own home and, you know, went from being own home and, you know, went from being on his his deathbed and physically on his his deathbed and physically on his his deathbed and physically looked different to, you know, being looked different to, you know, being looked different to, you know, being able to be revitalized and be able to go able to be revitalized and be able to go able to be revitalized and be able to go for runs and, you know, completely for runs and, you know, completely for runs and, you know, completely changed his life. I thought, you know, changed his life. I thought, you know, changed his life. I thought, you know, maybe this is, you know, maybe I should maybe this is, you know, maybe I should maybe this is, you know, maybe I should investigate this infrared technology. investigate this infrared technology. investigate this infrared technology. And I started doing some research and I And I started doing some research and I And I started doing some research and I found a lot of great research had found a lot of great research had found a lot of great research had already been done 25 years ago. It just already been done 25 years ago. It just already been done 25 years ago. It just wasn't available in the United States. wasn't available in the United States. wasn't available in the United States. Nobody knew anything about it. Nobody Nobody knew anything about it. Nobody Nobody knew anything about it. Nobody was talking about it. And so I left PNG was talking about it. And so I left PNG was talking about it. And so I left PNG eventually. And Aaron who's at the time eventually. And Aaron who's at the time eventually. And Aaron who's at the time he wasn't, but he is my husband and he wasn't, but he is my husband and he wasn't, but he is my husband and business partner. He did the same thing. business partner. He did the same thing. business partner. He did the same thing. He was also at PNG. And so we both left He was also at PNG. And so we both left He was also at PNG. And so we both left our corporate jobs and decided to you our corporate jobs and decided to you our corporate jobs and decided to you know create sunlighten. And you know as know create sunlighten. And you know as know create sunlighten. And you know as far as what drives me to do what I do far as what drives me to do what I do far as what drives me to do what I do still today uh is the fact that I really

05:00still today uh is the fact that I really still today uh is the fact that I really want to help people live their want to help people live their want to help people live their healthiest life possible. Ultimately, healthiest life possible. Ultimately, healthiest life possible. Ultimately, what gets me up in the morning is to be what gets me up in the morning is to be what gets me up in the morning is to be able to help people feel better and do able to help people feel better and do able to help people feel better and do more of what they love to do and live more of what they love to do and live more of what they love to do and live their fullest life as a result of of the their fullest life as a result of of the their fullest life as a result of of the products that, you know, I put into products that, you know, I put into products that, you know, I put into market as well as the information that I market as well as the information that I market as well as the information that I can share that will, you know, empower can share that will, you know, empower can share that will, you know, empower them to, you know, live a great life. them to, you know, live a great life. them to, you know, live a great life. And I just feel like it's important I And I just feel like it's important I And I just feel like it's important I feel responsible to share information if feel responsible to share information if feel responsible to share information if I know things that may be able to make I know things that may be able to make I know things that may be able to make people feel better than they do today. people feel better than they do today. people feel better than they do today. It's hard for me to even remember an era It's hard for me to even remember an era It's hard for me to even remember an era when we didn't have access to infrared when we didn't have access to infrared when we didn't have access to infrared saunas. And so my own healing journey saunas. And so my own healing journey saunas. And so my own healing journey now has been more than 25 years. And so now has been more than 25 years. And so now has been more than 25 years. And so I guess we could separated into the I guess we could separated into the I guess we could separated into the preconnie and postconie era if we're preconnie and postconie era if we're preconnie and postconie era if we're thinking about having these tools. I thinking about having these tools. I thinking about having these tools. I think at one time you guys actually were think at one time you guys actually were think at one time you guys actually were called sunlight saunas if I remember called sunlight saunas if I remember called sunlight saunas if I remember correctly. Good memory. Yes, we were.

06:00correctly. Good memory. Yes, we were. correctly. Good memory. Yes, we were. Yeah, it's a long time ago. Yeah, we Yeah, it's a long time ago. Yeah, we Yeah, it's a long time ago. Yeah, we changed that after Oprah. changed that after Oprah. changed that after Oprah. So, what are some of the conditions So, what are some of the conditions So, what are some of the conditions where you commonly see people responding where you commonly see people responding where you commonly see people responding really well to sauna therapy? Are there really well to sauna therapy? Are there really well to sauna therapy? Are there some where maybe we don't see the needle some where maybe we don't see the needle some where maybe we don't see the needle moving as much? Are there certain moving as much? Are there certain moving as much? Are there certain conditions where maybe sauna could conditions where maybe sauna could conditions where maybe sauna could potentially be problematic or we may not potentially be problematic or we may not potentially be problematic or we may not want to use sauna? What are some of the want to use sauna? What are some of the want to use sauna? What are some of the communities that are most drawn to using communities that are most drawn to using communities that are most drawn to using your products with the greatest success? your products with the greatest success? your products with the greatest success? So as far as the communities, we'll So as far as the communities, we'll So as far as the communities, we'll start there as far as you know where are start there as far as you know where are start there as far as you know where are people having success definitely in that people having success definitely in that people having success definitely in that toxic burden area. So people you know toxic burden area. So people you know toxic burden area. So people you know who have for example with mold toxicity who have for example with mold toxicity who have for example with mold toxicity or with heavy metal toxicity or you know or with heavy metal toxicity or you know or with heavy metal toxicity or you know any types of being exposed environmental any types of being exposed environmental any types of being exposed environmental toxicity. I mean there's so many types toxicity. I mean there's so many types toxicity. I mean there's so many types of of toxic burdens and that definitely of of toxic burdens and that definitely of of toxic burdens and that definitely is is like probably the the biggest

07:00is is like probably the the biggest is is like probably the the biggest community. Another one that's the community. Another one that's the community. Another one that's the longest standing one which is what longest standing one which is what longest standing one which is what inspired my research and one of the inspired my research and one of the inspired my research and one of the reasons that you I left my corporate job reasons that you I left my corporate job reasons that you I left my corporate job is because of the heart disease and any is because of the heart disease and any is because of the heart disease and any type of condition connected to healthy type of condition connected to healthy type of condition connected to healthy to creating a healthy heart. infrared to creating a healthy heart. infrared to creating a healthy heart. infrared has has had significant impact and I'm has has had significant impact and I'm has has had significant impact and I'm very very passionate about that aspect very very passionate about that aspect very very passionate about that aspect as far as some more simple ones you know as far as some more simple ones you know as far as some more simple ones you know sleep and that and not that sleep is sleep and that and not that sleep is sleep and that and not that sleep is simple cuz people who struggle with simple cuz people who struggle with simple cuz people who struggle with sleep would would not not agree with sleep would would not not agree with sleep would would not not agree with that but you know skin purification that but you know skin purification that but you know skin purification you know weight loss the whole aspect of you know weight loss the whole aspect of you know weight loss the whole aspect of mental health you know we could spend mental health you know we could spend mental health you know we could spend time talking about that that's really time talking about that that's really time talking about that that's really important, you know, anxiety and important, you know, anxiety and important, you know, anxiety and depression and and just that whole that depression and and just that whole that depression and and just that whole that whole arena. Infrared is is, you know, whole arena. Infrared is is, you know, whole arena. Infrared is is, you know, been known to help. We have a lot of

08:00been known to help. We have a lot of been known to help. We have a lot of athletes today that use it for muscle athletes today that use it for muscle athletes today that use it for muscle recovery, you know, decreasing recovery, you know, decreasing recovery, you know, decreasing inflammation. Probably one of my inflammation. Probably one of my inflammation. Probably one of my favorites as a as a working mom is favorites as a as a working mom is favorites as a as a working mom is increased energy. So, people who are increased energy. So, people who are increased energy. So, people who are sluggish and chronic fatigue and, you sluggish and chronic fatigue and, you sluggish and chronic fatigue and, you know, fibromyalgia. know, fibromyalgia. know, fibromyalgia. So, those are some I mean, there's So, those are some I mean, there's So, those are some I mean, there's there's a lot and I'm sure they'll come there's a lot and I'm sure they'll come there's a lot and I'm sure they'll come up in our conversation, you know, more up in our conversation, you know, more up in our conversation, you know, more communities that have had a lot of communities that have had a lot of communities that have had a lot of success. As far as people who may success. As far as people who may success. As far as people who may struggle, it's really important that struggle, it's really important that struggle, it's really important that people know, you know, no matter what people know, you know, no matter what people know, you know, no matter what where you are in your journey, it's where you are in your journey, it's where you are in your journey, it's really great to to go low and slow and really great to to go low and slow and really great to to go low and slow and evaluate how your body is responding. evaluate how your body is responding. evaluate how your body is responding. That's really important. I mean, I just That's really important. I mean, I just That's really important. I mean, I just think back to my brother and he started think back to my brother and he started think back to my brother and he started off just a couple of minutes and then, off just a couple of minutes and then, off just a couple of minutes and then, you know, hydrate and then, you know, do you know, hydrate and then, you know, do you know, hydrate and then, you know, do it again the next day and just kept it again the next day and just kept it again the next day and just kept working up. You know, it took him a long working up. You know, it took him a long working up. You know, it took him a long time to get to that state of being so time to get to that state of being so time to get to that state of being so sick, right? So, he needed it's it was sick, right? So, he needed it's it was sick, right? So, he needed it's it was going to take a while for him to get rid going to take a while for him to get rid going to take a while for him to get rid of everything that was causing the toxic

09:00of everything that was causing the toxic of everything that was causing the toxic burden. So talk to us about the burden. So talk to us about the burden. So talk to us about the difference between classical steam difference between classical steam difference between classical steam versus dry saunas where we think about versus dry saunas where we think about versus dry saunas where we think about the rocks or coals and how that compares the rocks or coals and how that compares the rocks or coals and how that compares to infrared sauna where one's more to infrared sauna where one's more to infrared sauna where one's more heating from the outside in, one from heating from the outside in, one from heating from the outside in, one from the inside out. And then what is the the inside out. And then what is the the inside out. And then what is the temperature that we're thinking about in temperature that we're thinking about in temperature that we're thinking about in each of these different types of sauna each of these different types of sauna each of these different types of sauna modalities? Is there one that's better modalities? Is there one that's better modalities? Is there one that's better from a health perspective? If we're from a health perspective? If we're from a health perspective? If we're thinking about infrared, are we missing thinking about infrared, are we missing thinking about infrared, are we missing something that we might get with the something that we might get with the something that we might get with the more classical approaches? How should we more classical approaches? How should we more classical approaches? How should we think about these different options? think about these different options? think about these different options? Great question. So, let's start with Great question. So, let's start with Great question. So, let's start with traditional saunas. Those in are heated traditional saunas. Those in are heated traditional saunas. Those in are heated by the it's a it's a different type of by the it's a it's a different type of by the it's a it's a different type of heat mechanism. So, you're hot because heat mechanism. So, you're hot because heat mechanism. So, you're hot because the air is hot and it's a much hotter the air is hot and it's a much hotter the air is hot and it's a much hotter temperature. And temperature matters a temperature. And temperature matters a temperature. And temperature matters a lot more in a traditional sauna. So

10:00lot more in a traditional sauna. So lot more in a traditional sauna. So generally speaking, they're around 170 generally speaking, they're around 170 generally speaking, they're around 170 and go, you know, all the way up. And and go, you know, all the way up. And and go, you know, all the way up. And you can have the rocks. When I say you can have the rocks. When I say you can have the rocks. When I say traditional, I actually bucket all of traditional, I actually bucket all of traditional, I actually bucket all of the non-infrared saunas. So there the non-infrared saunas. So there the non-infrared saunas. So there there's there's rocks, there's there's there's there's rocks, there's there's there's there's rocks, there's there's steam, there's coal, there's lots of steam, there's coal, there's lots of steam, there's coal, there's lots of different ways to deliver hot air and different ways to deliver hot air and different ways to deliver hot air and sometimes it's dry air and sometimes sometimes it's dry air and sometimes sometimes it's dry air and sometimes it's moist air, but it's still hot air. it's moist air, but it's still hot air. it's moist air, but it's still hot air. And that's that's my point. Infrared, I And that's that's my point. Infrared, I And that's that's my point. Infrared, I refer, Scott, to infrared as as energy refer, Scott, to infrared as as energy refer, Scott, to infrared as as energy medicine because infrared is a is an medicine because infrared is a is an medicine because infrared is a is an energy. It's a form of energy. And the energy. It's a form of energy. And the energy. It's a form of energy. And the way it works with the body is it way it works with the body is it way it works with the body is it bypasses the air and goes directly into bypasses the air and goes directly into bypasses the air and goes directly into our body. And depending on which part of our body. And depending on which part of our body. And depending on which part of the infrared spectrum, infrared, the infrared spectrum, infrared, the infrared spectrum, infrared, something that's unique about infrared something that's unique about infrared something that's unique about infrared is it's a spectrum within a spectrum. So is it's a spectrum within a spectrum. So is it's a spectrum within a spectrum. So it's a spectrum of heat and light that it's a spectrum of heat and light that it's a spectrum of heat and light that comes from the sun's spectrum of light.

11:00comes from the sun's spectrum of light. comes from the sun's spectrum of light. And depending on which part of the And depending on which part of the And depending on which part of the spectrum you're receiving, it's either spectrum you're receiving, it's either spectrum you're receiving, it's either felt by heat or it's felt by light. And felt by heat or it's felt by light. And felt by heat or it's felt by light. And each one of those has special powerful each one of those has special powerful each one of those has special powerful magical properties that really literally magical properties that really literally magical properties that really literally can transform your body. So, let's dig can transform your body. So, let's dig can transform your body. So, let's dig in a bit then to that spectrum when in a bit then to that spectrum when in a bit then to that spectrum when we're thinking about red and infrared. we're thinking about red and infrared. we're thinking about red and infrared. And then within infrared, thinking about And then within infrared, thinking about And then within infrared, thinking about far and mid and near. If I remember far and mid and near. If I remember far and mid and near. If I remember correctly, your earlier sauna units were correctly, your earlier sauna units were correctly, your earlier sauna units were far infrared and over the years things far infrared and over the years things far infrared and over the years things have evolved to add some of these other have evolved to add some of these other have evolved to add some of these other wavelengths in. So, can we see these wavelengths in. So, can we see these wavelengths in. So, can we see these with the naked eye? What does each of with the naked eye? What does each of with the naked eye? What does each of them do in terms of how they best them do in terms of how they best them do in terms of how they best support the body? How deeply does each support the body? How deeply does each support the body? How deeply does each of them go into the body? And then, do of them go into the body? And then, do of them go into the body? And then, do we want a mix to really optimize our we want a mix to really optimize our we want a mix to really optimize our health? wondering if you can talk us health? wondering if you can talk us health? wondering if you can talk us through some of the health benefits and

12:00through some of the health benefits and through some of the health benefits and the actions of each of those four types the actions of each of those four types the actions of each of those four types and why they're so important in the and why they're so important in the and why they're so important in the products that you design. Yeah, another products that you design. Yeah, another products that you design. Yeah, another just powerful question and this is one just powerful question and this is one just powerful question and this is one we could spend so long on. So, I'm going we could spend so long on. So, I'm going we could spend so long on. So, I'm going to go a little bit slower on this to go a little bit slower on this to go a little bit slower on this because it's really really important because it's really really important because it's really really important that people understand. I hear the term that people understand. I hear the term that people understand. I hear the term infrared sauna in that type of language infrared sauna in that type of language infrared sauna in that type of language and to me that leads somebody to think and to me that leads somebody to think and to me that leads somebody to think that it's all inclusive and in most most that it's all inclusive and in most most that it's all inclusive and in most most infrared saunas on the market do not infrared saunas on the market do not infrared saunas on the market do not have in fact sunlight has the only one have in fact sunlight has the only one have in fact sunlight has the only one say it a different way it's easier to say it a different way it's easier to say it a different way it's easier to say that has the only sauna that has far say that has the only sauna that has far say that has the only sauna that has far mid near and red so you you Really mid near and red so you you Really mid near and red so you you Really people should talk in the language of people should talk in the language of people should talk in the language of this is a far infrared sauna this is a this is a far infrared sauna this is a this is a far infrared sauna this is a far you know this is has far infrared far you know this is has far infrared far you know this is has far infrared mid infrared this is a near they should mid infrared this is a near they should mid infrared this is a near they should be they should label which part of the be they should label which part of the be they should label which part of the spectrum in order to be clear. So as far

13:00spectrum in order to be clear. So as far spectrum in order to be clear. So as far as we'll start with far because as you as we'll start with far because as you as we'll start with far because as you it's so wonderful talking to you because it's so wonderful talking to you because it's so wonderful talking to you because so you know you have been we've you know so you know you have been we've you know so you know you have been we've you know known each other for so long and I gosh known each other for so long and I gosh known each other for so long and I gosh I remember having conversations about I remember having conversations about I remember having conversations about lime and just a long long time ago and lime and just a long long time ago and lime and just a long long time ago and so it's great that you've seen the so it's great that you've seen the so it's great that you've seen the evolution of of our company and even evolution of of our company and even evolution of of our company and even know the fact that we started with far know the fact that we started with far know the fact that we started with far infrared. So far infrared is the infrared. So far infrared is the infrared. So far infrared is the foundation of the four blade links and foundation of the four blade links and foundation of the four blade links and the reason I call it the foundation is the reason I call it the foundation is the reason I call it the foundation is because there while all of them have because there while all of them have because there while all of them have significant impact on the body in significant impact on the body in significant impact on the body in different ways which we can talk about different ways which we can talk about different ways which we can talk about far infrared really helps the most with far infrared really helps the most with far infrared really helps the most with all of our systems. It is really the all of our systems. It is really the all of our systems. It is really the foundation of foundation of foundation of leading a longevity, you know, a life leading a longevity, you know, a life leading a longevity, you know, a life that's longer and having as, you know, that's longer and having as, you know, that's longer and having as, you know, as long life as possible. And the reason as long life as possible. And the reason as long life as possible. And the reason for that is because it's absorbed into for that is because it's absorbed into for that is because it's absorbed into your water molecules. This is energy

14:00your water molecules. This is energy your water molecules. This is energy that's absorbed and it works with your that's absorbed and it works with your that's absorbed and it works with your water and your mitochondria to water and your mitochondria to water and your mitochondria to completely change really everything in completely change really everything in completely change really everything in your body. It sets off this biochemical your body. It sets off this biochemical your body. It sets off this biochemical cascade that alters every single system cascade that alters every single system cascade that alters every single system in a positive way. So, this energy in a positive way. So, this energy in a positive way. So, this energy transfer is received and you start to transfer is received and you start to transfer is received and you start to get this increase in core temperature. get this increase in core temperature. get this increase in core temperature. And let me back up for a second because And let me back up for a second because And let me back up for a second because I want to make sure people are clear on I want to make sure people are clear on I want to make sure people are clear on how you feel this. And you feel it by how you feel this. And you feel it by how you feel this. And you feel it by heat. So, it's light energy that you heat. So, it's light energy that you heat. So, it's light energy that you feel by heat. Then, and your body, the feel by heat. Then, and your body, the feel by heat. Then, and your body, the air is not really that hot, but your air is not really that hot, but your air is not really that hot, but your body temperature starts to increase. So body temperature starts to increase. So body temperature starts to increase. So you start to get this increase in core you start to get this increase in core you start to get this increase in core temperature and you start to see my temperature and you start to see my temperature and you start to see my favorite thing is this whole flow aspect favorite thing is this whole flow aspect favorite thing is this whole flow aspect and that's one thing if so you remember and that's one thing if so you remember and that's one thing if so you remember anything about this podcast infrared is anything about this podcast infrared is anything about this podcast infrared is means activation and it means flow which means activation and it means flow which means activation and it means flow which is so important on our bodies you know is so important on our bodies you know is so important on our bodies you know it's important to to have our bodies it's important to to have our bodies it's important to to have our bodies having more blood flow more oxygen flow

15:00having more blood flow more oxygen flow having more blood flow more oxygen flow you know more more like helping your you know more more like helping your you know more more like helping your blood vessels just helping everything blood vessels just helping everything blood vessels just helping everything move inside your body is really move inside your body is really move inside your body is really important to live a long healthy life important to live a long healthy life important to live a long healthy life and to feel great. So that's far and to feel great. So that's far and to feel great. So that's far infrared. So it's really hero is as we infrared. So it's really hero is as we infrared. So it's really hero is as we talked about detoxification, talked about detoxification, talked about detoxification, you know, heart healthy, all of the you know, heart healthy, all of the you know, heart healthy, all of the heart related, you know, conditions. It heart related, you know, conditions. It heart related, you know, conditions. It helps with your skin purification from helps with your skin purification from helps with your skin purification from the inside out. And so those are some of the inside out. And so those are some of the inside out. And so those are some of the the areas. Mid infrared you also the the areas. Mid infrared you also the the areas. Mid infrared you also feel by heat. Mid- infrared is absorbed feel by heat. Mid- infrared is absorbed feel by heat. Mid- infrared is absorbed not as deeply into the body. So it's not as deeply into the body. So it's not as deeply into the body. So it's really claimed where it's special is in really claimed where it's special is in really claimed where it's special is in the joints and tissues. So it's the joints and tissues. So it's the joints and tissues. So it's excellent for muscle recovery. It also excellent for muscle recovery. It also excellent for muscle recovery. It also works synergistically with for reducing works synergistically with for reducing works synergistically with for reducing inflammation for helping to burn inflammation for helping to burn inflammation for helping to burn calories for you know helping to aid in calories for you know helping to aid in calories for you know helping to aid in detoxification. So it helps far along in detoxification. So it helps far along in detoxification. So it helps far along in those. So it's it's really like an those. So it's it's really like an those. So it's it's really like an adjunctive you know partner a buddy to

16:00adjunctive you know partner a buddy to adjunctive you know partner a buddy to FAR where FAR is the foundation. So then FAR where FAR is the foundation. So then FAR where FAR is the foundation. So then you move over to near infrared. you move over to near infrared. you move over to near infrared. Near infrared we brought to the market Near infrared we brought to the market Near infrared we brought to the market 2010 right after we were on Oprah. So so 2010 right after we were on Oprah. So so 2010 right after we were on Oprah. So so that was 2009. So 2010 it was what that was 2009. So 2010 it was what that was 2009. So 2010 it was what impulse which is a sauna that's behind impulse which is a sauna that's behind impulse which is a sauna that's behind me was introduced and it near infrared me was introduced and it near infrared me was introduced and it near infrared is delivered by light energy by LEDs. is delivered by light energy by LEDs. is delivered by light energy by LEDs. You cannot see near infrared at all. So You cannot see near infrared at all. So You cannot see near infrared at all. So it is invisible. And then red light is it is invisible. And then red light is it is invisible. And then red light is also received by LEDs. So you have two also received by LEDs. So you have two also received by LEDs. So you have two that are available to feel by heat and that are available to feel by heat and that are available to feel by heat and you have two parts of the infrared you have two parts of the infrared you have two parts of the infrared spectrum that you feel that's delivered spectrum that you feel that's delivered spectrum that you feel that's delivered by light. These two penetrate your skin. by light. These two penetrate your skin. by light. These two penetrate your skin. So you have energy that's absorbed by So you have energy that's absorbed by So you have energy that's absorbed by heat and you have light that's heat and you have light that's heat and you have light that's penetrating directly into your skin. And

17:00penetrating directly into your skin. And penetrating directly into your skin. And near infrared goes deeper. Red doesn't near infrared goes deeper. Red doesn't near infrared goes deeper. Red doesn't go as deep. They work wonderful on your go as deep. They work wonderful on your go as deep. They work wonderful on your activating your mitochondria. They work activating your mitochondria. They work activating your mitochondria. They work wonderful at reducing inflammation. They wonderful at reducing inflammation. They wonderful at reducing inflammation. They are amazing at all things benefiting the are amazing at all things benefiting the are amazing at all things benefiting the skin, which we can talk more, you know, skin, which we can talk more, you know, skin, which we can talk more, you know, in depth. But those two are are nonheat in depth. But those two are are nonheat in depth. But those two are are nonheat related. So people sometimes get related. So people sometimes get related. So people sometimes get confused. And that's why when somebody confused. And that's why when somebody confused. And that's why when somebody says an infrared sauna, I'm like, well, says an infrared sauna, I'm like, well, says an infrared sauna, I'm like, well, which part of the infrared spectrum are which part of the infrared spectrum are which part of the infrared spectrum are we talking? and is it far, mid, near, or we talking? and is it far, mid, near, or we talking? and is it far, mid, near, or red? So, that's kind of a quick red? So, that's kind of a quick red? So, that's kind of a quick overview. We can always dive deeper into overview. We can always dive deeper into overview. We can always dive deeper into any of the areas that you want. So, far any of the areas that you want. So, far any of the areas that you want. So, far infrared, mid infrared, we're going to infrared, mid infrared, we're going to infrared, mid infrared, we're going to feel that heat. Near infrared, and red feel that heat. Near infrared, and red feel that heat. Near infrared, and red light, we're not going to feel the heat. light, we're not going to feel the heat. light, we're not going to feel the heat. And the only one we're going to visibly And the only one we're going to visibly And the only one we're going to visibly see with our eyes is the red. All of the see with our eyes is the red. All of the see with our eyes is the red. All of the other three infrareds, we're not going other three infrareds, we're not going other three infrareds, we're not going to visibly see any of those. Correct. to visibly see any of those. Correct. to visibly see any of those. Correct. That's exactly correct. Beautiful. So, That's exactly correct. Beautiful. So, That's exactly correct. Beautiful. So, one of the things that I had not heard,

18:00one of the things that I had not heard, one of the things that I had not heard, and a couple of listeners brought this and a couple of listeners brought this and a couple of listeners brought this up as I was preparing for this up as I was preparing for this up as I was preparing for this conversation, was this kind of conversation, was this kind of conversation, was this kind of conflicting opinion about using near conflicting opinion about using near conflicting opinion about using near infrared in the same environment or infrared in the same environment or infrared in the same environment or sauna with other wavelengths like far sauna with other wavelengths like far sauna with other wavelengths like far infrared. So, I'm wondering if that's infrared. So, I'm wondering if that's infrared. So, I'm wondering if that's something you've heard about, if you can something you've heard about, if you can something you've heard about, if you can kind of clarify that controversy for us. kind of clarify that controversy for us. kind of clarify that controversy for us. Is there any concern about being exposed Is there any concern about being exposed Is there any concern about being exposed to multiple types of infrared at the to multiple types of infrared at the to multiple types of infrared at the same time? Is that beneficial? Is there same time? Is that beneficial? Is there same time? Is that beneficial? Is there any potential detriment? What is that any potential detriment? What is that any potential detriment? What is that controversy? Yeah. So, that's not a controversy? Yeah. So, that's not a controversy? Yeah. So, that's not a question that somebody has asked me question that somebody has asked me question that somebody has asked me personally. However, I'm happy to personally. However, I'm happy to personally. However, I'm happy to address and to clarify address and to clarify address and to clarify that having all of the wavelengths that having all of the wavelengths that having all of the wavelengths together is optimal. That is the optimal together is optimal. That is the optimal together is optimal. That is the optimal way to experience an infrared sun is way to experience an infrared sun is way to experience an infrared sun is going inside, turning it on, and letting going inside, turning it on, and letting going inside, turning it on, and letting the light and heat you and transform

19:00the light and heat you and transform the light and heat you and transform your body in many different ways. And I your body in many different ways. And I your body in many different ways. And I can't for me personally, I mean, I've can't for me personally, I mean, I've can't for me personally, I mean, I've used obviously I've used them all over used obviously I've used them all over used obviously I've used them all over the years. And I can talk about all the the years. And I can talk about all the the years. And I can talk about all the different types of of products that different types of of products that different types of of products that Sunlight has made and why we made them Sunlight has made and why we made them Sunlight has made and why we made them because everything has been intentional because everything has been intentional because everything has been intentional and and it's all based on science. I for and and it's all based on science. I for and and it's all based on science. I for me I love being able to have what I call me I love being able to have what I call me I love being able to have what I call like the whole body complete longevity like the whole body complete longevity like the whole body complete longevity hack of impulse because you you you hack of impulse because you you you hack of impulse because you you you you're literally hacking everything with you're literally hacking everything with you're literally hacking everything with far infrared, mid infrared, near far infrared, mid infrared, near far infrared, mid infrared, near infrared and red light. you like you infrared and red light. you like you infrared and red light. you like you can't get more in one little environment can't get more in one little environment can't get more in one little environment than than with having those four-way than than with having those four-way than than with having those four-way links. So, I highly encourage somebody. links. So, I highly encourage somebody. links. So, I highly encourage somebody. It's it's optimal and I understand, It's it's optimal and I understand, It's it's optimal and I understand, believe me, I I understand because we believe me, I I understand because we believe me, I I understand because we created this business in the basement of created this business in the basement of created this business in the basement of our home, mortgaged everything we had. I our home, mortgaged everything we had. I our home, mortgaged everything we had. I mean, you know, we were just we were mean, you know, we were just we were mean, you know, we were just we were beyond broke. We we were in debt. So, I beyond broke. We we were in debt. So, I beyond broke. We we were in debt. So, I understand being in a situation where

20:00understand being in a situation where understand being in a situation where you can't, you know, you like the you can't, you know, you like the you can't, you know, you like the impulse is out of out of the league. So impulse is out of out of the league. So impulse is out of out of the league. So you can start in different places which you can start in different places which you can start in different places which we can also talk about. So that that can we can also talk about. So that that can we can also talk about. So that that can be aspirational. But if you're talking be aspirational. But if you're talking be aspirational. But if you're talking about what's ideal, let's shoot for the about what's ideal, let's shoot for the about what's ideal, let's shoot for the stars, that is ideal. It's also I'm a stars, that is ideal. It's also I'm a stars, that is ideal. It's also I'm a huge I'm sure you're like this way too, huge I'm sure you're like this way too, huge I'm sure you're like this way too, Scott. I'm a huge efficiency fan. I mean Scott. I'm a huge efficiency fan. I mean Scott. I'm a huge efficiency fan. I mean I just you know I like to do more with I just you know I like to do more with I just you know I like to do more with less. like you know just however I can less. like you know just however I can less. like you know just however I can maximize and having all four wavelengths maximize and having all four wavelengths maximize and having all four wavelengths in the same place is the most efficient in the same place is the most efficient in the same place is the most efficient way to heal your body safely naturally way to heal your body safely naturally way to heal your body safely naturally in the comfort of your own home. So in the comfort of your own home. So in the comfort of your own home. So you've mentioned longevity. So how much you've mentioned longevity. So how much you've mentioned longevity. So how much of an impact does sauna therapy have on of an impact does sauna therapy have on of an impact does sauna therapy have on all cause mortality? Are there any all cause mortality? Are there any all cause mortality? Are there any studies that show the impact on health studies that show the impact on health studies that show the impact on health and mortality? I've heard some suggest and mortality? I've heard some suggest and mortality? I've heard some suggest that depending on the number of sessions that depending on the number of sessions that depending on the number of sessions per week and the duration that we can per week and the duration that we can per week and the duration that we can reduce all cause mortality by as much as

21:00reduce all cause mortality by as much as reduce all cause mortality by as much as 40% or more which seemed incredible for 40% or more which seemed incredible for 40% or more which seemed incredible for any single intervention that I could any single intervention that I could any single intervention that I could possibly think of. So what have you possibly think of. So what have you possibly think of. So what have you found in terms of all cause mortality found in terms of all cause mortality found in terms of all cause mortality reduction? Yes, I have asked the reduction? Yes, I have asked the reduction? Yes, I have asked the experts. So there is the JAMAMA study experts. So there is the JAMAMA study experts. So there is the JAMAMA study that you're you know referencing that that you're you know referencing that that you're you know referencing that has that 40% reduction and so I've asked has that 40% reduction and so I've asked has that 40% reduction and so I've asked we have a medical advisory board and we have a medical advisory board and we have a medical advisory board and I've asked a lot of our physicians that I've asked a lot of our physicians that I've asked a lot of our physicians that I work with how because the JAMAMA study I work with how because the JAMAMA study I work with how because the JAMAMA study was done in with traditional saunas was done in with traditional saunas was done in with traditional saunas and their explanation is that infrared and their explanation is that infrared and their explanation is that infrared would deliver the same results provided would deliver the same results provided would deliver the same results provided obviously you have the consistency obviously you have the consistency obviously you have the consistency without the intensity. of having to have without the intensity. of having to have without the intensity. of having to have it so hot. So the heat, the high level it so hot. So the heat, the high level it so hot. So the heat, the high level of heat um is not an indicator of what's of heat um is not an indicator of what's of heat um is not an indicator of what's causing you know the the healthiness. causing you know the the healthiness. causing you know the the healthiness. It's actually just the consistent use of

22:00It's actually just the consistent use of It's actually just the consistent use of of heat and because infrared is absorbed of heat and because infrared is absorbed of heat and because infrared is absorbed into the body at a lower temperature into the body at a lower temperature into the body at a lower temperature that it would deliver the same results. that it would deliver the same results. that it would deliver the same results. I will say that there's a separate study I will say that there's a separate study I will say that there's a separate study that there's extensive data if anybody that there's extensive data if anybody that there's extensive data if anybody wants to Google weon w ao n weon therapy wants to Google weon w ao n weon therapy wants to Google weon w ao n weon therapy it stands for soothing warmth therapy it stands for soothing warmth therapy it stands for soothing warmth therapy it's 15 minutes of infrared is and then it's 15 minutes of infrared is and then it's 15 minutes of infrared is and then followed by being with a warm blanket so followed by being with a warm blanket so followed by being with a warm blanket so just to keep the infrared energy inside just to keep the infrared energy inside just to keep the infrared energy inside your body the studies with wayon therapy your body the studies with wayon therapy your body the studies with wayon therapy is absolutely mind-blowing how the just is absolutely mind-blowing how the just is absolutely mind-blowing how the just the positive impact when you talk about the positive impact when you talk about the positive impact when you talk about longevity And you talk about just living longevity And you talk about just living longevity And you talk about just living a, you know, healthy life and being able a, you know, healthy life and being able a, you know, healthy life and being able to do more that the studies show exactly to do more that the studies show exactly to do more that the studies show exactly that. One of the studies with weon that. One of the studies with weon that. One of the studies with weon showed a 50% reduction in showed a 50% reduction in showed a 50% reduction in hospitalization and death to those that hospitalization and death to those that hospitalization and death to those that were using infrared versus those that were using infrared versus those that were using infrared versus those that weren't. So there's there's plenty of weren't. So there's there's plenty of weren't. So there's there's plenty of research out there. There's, you know,

23:00research out there. There's, you know, research out there. There's, you know, research about, you know, helping with research about, you know, helping with research about, you know, helping with exercise, being able to exercise longer, exercise, being able to exercise longer, exercise, being able to exercise longer, being able to walk faster, like, you being able to walk faster, like, you being able to walk faster, like, you know, after using infrared. So, if we're know, after using infrared. So, if we're know, after using infrared. So, if we're thinking about optimizing the benefits thinking about optimizing the benefits thinking about optimizing the benefits of sauna therapy, and from here on, of sauna therapy, and from here on, of sauna therapy, and from here on, we're primarily talking about infrared we're primarily talking about infrared we're primarily talking about infrared sauna. What should the duration of a sauna. What should the duration of a sauna. What should the duration of a session be? I've heard some people, some session be? I've heard some people, some session be? I've heard some people, some of my mentors suggest that from a detox of my mentors suggest that from a detox of my mentors suggest that from a detox perspective that we get the majority of perspective that we get the majority of perspective that we get the majority of the toxicant removal benefit or detox the toxicant removal benefit or detox the toxicant removal benefit or detox benefit within 5 to 10 minutes after we benefit within 5 to 10 minutes after we benefit within 5 to 10 minutes after we start sweating. I've heard other people start sweating. I've heard other people start sweating. I've heard other people say you need to do a full hour. So, what say you need to do a full hour. So, what say you need to do a full hour. So, what duration, frequency, and temperature are duration, frequency, and temperature are duration, frequency, and temperature are considered optimal to get the full considered optimal to get the full considered optimal to get the full benefit without overdoing it when we're benefit without overdoing it when we're benefit without overdoing it when we're talking about infrared sauna? So, I'm talking about infrared sauna? So, I'm talking about infrared sauna? So, I'm going to address temperature first going to address temperature first going to address temperature first because that's my favorite question because that's my favorite question because that's my favorite question because this is the the aspect that because this is the the aspect that because this is the the aspect that causes the greatest confusion. So with

24:00causes the greatest confusion. So with causes the greatest confusion. So with infrared and this is really important to infrared and this is really important to infrared and this is really important to those of you who are listening, those of you who are listening, those of you who are listening, temperature is not an indicator of temperature is not an indicator of temperature is not an indicator of success and should not be something that success and should not be something that success and should not be something that is that you pay attention to because is that you pay attention to because is that you pay attention to because temperature is like thermometer, right? temperature is like thermometer, right? temperature is like thermometer, right? And that's what's important for And that's what's important for And that's what's important for traditional. You need to measure the the traditional. You need to measure the the traditional. You need to measure the the temperature in a traditional sauna. You temperature in a traditional sauna. You temperature in a traditional sauna. You need to measure the temperature in your need to measure the temperature in your need to measure the temperature in your home. You need to measure the home. You need to measure the home. You need to measure the temperature in places that it matters temperature in places that it matters temperature in places that it matters because you need to know whether you're because you need to know whether you're because you need to know whether you're going to turn it up or turn it down. In going to turn it up or turn it down. In going to turn it up or turn it down. In infrared, it doesn't matter. It's energy infrared, it doesn't matter. It's energy infrared, it doesn't matter. It's energy medicine. So, think about it as like a medicine. So, think about it as like a medicine. So, think about it as like a light bulb where you turn it on and it's light bulb where you turn it on and it's light bulb where you turn it on and it's on. It doesn't it's it it does not on. It doesn't it's it it does not on. It doesn't it's it it does not matter like there's not other parts of matter like there's not other parts of matter like there's not other parts of that turning it on, you know? I mean, it that turning it on, you know? I mean, it that turning it on, you know? I mean, it it could be like a dimmer and as you it could be like a dimmer and as you it could be like a dimmer and as you stay in there, it's going to you're stay in there, it's going to you're stay in there, it's going to you're going to feel hotter and hotter because going to feel hotter and hotter because going to feel hotter and hotter because you're getting more and more energy you're getting more and more energy you're getting more and more energy absorbed and it's raising your core absorbed and it's raising your core absorbed and it's raising your core temperature. But as far as measuring temperature. But as far as measuring temperature. But as far as measuring success and as far as knowing when to success and as far as knowing when to success and as far as knowing when to get in and as far as the ideal

25:00get in and as far as the ideal get in and as far as the ideal temperature, temperature, temperature, it really doesn't matter. So that's it really doesn't matter. So that's it really doesn't matter. So that's really important. So that's the most really important. So that's the most really important. So that's the most important really probably thing that important really probably thing that important really probably thing that people people can hear because when you people people can hear because when you people people can hear because when you start to use your sauna the best thing start to use your sauna the best thing start to use your sauna the best thing you can do is turn it on and get in and you can do is turn it on and get in and you can do is turn it on and get in and and especially if you have impulse you and especially if you have impulse you and especially if you have impulse you when you turn it on you'll see the red when you turn it on you'll see the red when you turn it on you'll see the red lights come on right and then we have a lights come on right and then we have a lights come on right and then we have a blue light indicator for the near blue light indicator for the near blue light indicator for the near infrared so you can tell when it's on infrared so you can tell when it's on infrared so you can tell when it's on and so those are immediately you know on and so those are immediately you know on and so those are immediately you know on and being transferred and it's the same and being transferred and it's the same and being transferred and it's the same for the mid and the are. So, as far as for the mid and the are. So, as far as for the mid and the are. So, as far as duration, duration, duration, duration is one of those, it really duration is one of those, it really duration is one of those, it really depends on how much time you have. So, depends on how much time you have. So, depends on how much time you have. So, in an ideal, we'll start again shooting in an ideal, we'll start again shooting in an ideal, we'll start again shooting for the stars. In an ideal place, 40 for the stars. In an ideal place, 40 for the stars. In an ideal place, 40 minutes is is a great amount of time and minutes is is a great amount of time and

26:00minutes is is a great amount of time and you definitely were going to get, you you definitely were going to get, you you definitely were going to get, you know, all the benefits. If we go back to know, all the benefits. If we go back to know, all the benefits. If we go back to weon, right? like that study was only 15 weon, right? like that study was only 15 weon, right? like that study was only 15 minutes. So, and we know that that the minutes. So, and we know that that the minutes. So, and we know that that the significant impact that infrared had on significant impact that infrared had on significant impact that infrared had on the body. I am a huge believer that 15 the body. I am a huge believer that 15 the body. I am a huge believer that 15 minutes is better than not doing it. My minutes is better than not doing it. My minutes is better than not doing it. My my mantra is consistency beats intensity my mantra is consistency beats intensity my mantra is consistency beats intensity every day of the week. I would rather every day of the week. I would rather every day of the week. I would rather see somebody be consistent. You know, do see somebody be consistent. You know, do see somebody be consistent. You know, do it between three to four. If you can do it between three to four. If you can do it between three to four. If you can do five, you're a superstar, rockstar in my five, you're a superstar, rockstar in my five, you're a superstar, rockstar in my world. Three to four is what I world. Three to four is what I world. Three to four is what I personally shoot for times a week. And I personally shoot for times a week. And I personally shoot for times a week. And I shoot for between 15 minutes and 40. So shoot for between 15 minutes and 40. So shoot for between 15 minutes and 40. So that's my personal range. You know, also that's my personal range. You know, also that's my personal range. You know, also depending on what's going on in your depending on what's going on in your depending on what's going on in your body. If you are, you know, have have, body. If you are, you know, have have, body. If you are, you know, have have, you know, lime or mold or heavy metals, you know, lime or mold or heavy metals, you know, lime or mold or heavy metals, you know, you're really struggling and you know, you're really struggling and you know, you're really struggling and you just overall do not feel great, then

27:00you just overall do not feel great, then you just overall do not feel great, then you don't want to start at 40. You know, you don't want to start at 40. You know, you don't want to start at 40. You know, you want to start low and slow and work you want to start low and slow and work you want to start low and slow and work your way up and get let your body your way up and get let your body your way up and get let your body because your body's probably not had because your body's probably not had because your body's probably not had this concentrated amount of infrared. this concentrated amount of infrared. this concentrated amount of infrared. That's something that's unique about That's something that's unique about That's something that's unique about Sunlightened is is our infrared delivery Sunlightened is is our infrared delivery Sunlightened is is our infrared delivery system is concentrated and patented. You system is concentrated and patented. You system is concentrated and patented. You can't get more far infrared any place can't get more far infrared any place can't get more far infrared any place else because we've patented our else because we've patented our else because we've patented our delivery. And so you're getting it's delivery. And so you're getting it's delivery. And so you're getting it's like it's like the multivitamin that has like it's like the multivitamin that has like it's like the multivitamin that has that is most absorbed most readily that is most absorbed most readily that is most absorbed most readily absorbed into your body. That's what you absorbed into your body. That's what you absorbed into your body. That's what you you want to think about. Like so there's you want to think about. Like so there's you want to think about. Like so there's some you can take vitamin C from some some you can take vitamin C from some some you can take vitamin C from some supplier or vitamin C from another supplier or vitamin C from another supplier or vitamin C from another supplier and depending on the delivery supplier and depending on the delivery supplier and depending on the delivery mechanism mechanism mechanism 100% is absorbed or it's not right. like 100% is absorbed or it's not right. like 100% is absorbed or it's not right. like it just depends on on the the quality of it just depends on on the the quality of it just depends on on the the quality of the the supplement. So given that the the the supplement. So given that the the the supplement. So given that the listener community hearing us today is listener community hearing us today is listener community hearing us today is primarily primarily primarily complex chronic illness, lime, mold, I

28:00complex chronic illness, lime, mold, I complex chronic illness, lime, mold, I I've always had some I've always had some I've always had some caution with sauna therapy, meaning if caution with sauna therapy, meaning if caution with sauna therapy, meaning if someone is still early in their someone is still early in their someone is still early in their recovery, and we're going to talk recovery, and we're going to talk recovery, and we're going to talk through several of these scenarios that through several of these scenarios that through several of these scenarios that that we should be cautious. I'm not one that we should be cautious. I'm not one that we should be cautious. I'm not one of those people that thinks that it's of those people that thinks that it's of those people that thinks that it's good to just push through if something's good to just push through if something's good to just push through if something's making us feel worse, but wondering if making us feel worse, but wondering if making us feel worse, but wondering if somebody's starting out doing sauna somebody's starting out doing sauna somebody's starting out doing sauna therapy, how do we differentiate between therapy, how do we differentiate between therapy, how do we differentiate between symptoms or things that we observe that symptoms or things that we observe that symptoms or things that we observe that are maybe hormetic, meaning they stress are maybe hormetic, meaning they stress are maybe hormetic, meaning they stress the body but ultimately are beneficial, the body but ultimately are beneficial, the body but ultimately are beneficial, versus things that are maybe telling us versus things that are maybe telling us versus things that are maybe telling us that we're overdoing it. Mhm. Yeah, that we're overdoing it. Mhm. Yeah, that we're overdoing it. Mhm. Yeah, that's a great question and the number that's a great question and the number that's a great question and the number one rule and I I completely agree with one rule and I I completely agree with one rule and I I completely agree with you. So, just want to validate that you. So, just want to validate that you. So, just want to validate that that's that's our our view. I mean, I that's that's our our view. I mean, I that's that's our our view. I mean, I just always go back whenever I hear that just always go back whenever I hear that just always go back whenever I hear that I go back to thinking of, you know, my I go back to thinking of, you know, my I go back to thinking of, you know, my brother who just he was so sick and so brother who just he was so sick and so brother who just he was so sick and so he had to start so slow.

29:00he had to start so slow. he had to start so slow. So, as far as indicators, So, as far as indicators, So, as far as indicators, you should be able to, you know, notice you should be able to, you know, notice you should be able to, you know, notice a difference. And so, just pay a difference. And so, just pay a difference. And so, just pay attention. My greatest advice is listen attention. My greatest advice is listen attention. My greatest advice is listen to your body. Pay attention to how you to your body. Pay attention to how you to your body. Pay attention to how you feel. And that's really the indicator. feel. And that's really the indicator. feel. And that's really the indicator. You know, it's, as I said, temperature You know, it's, as I said, temperature You know, it's, as I said, temperature is not an indicator of success. How you is not an indicator of success. How you is not an indicator of success. How you feel is you, you know, you should be feel is you, you know, you should be feel is you, you know, you should be able to, you start slow. And what's able to, you start slow. And what's able to, you start slow. And what's great about our sauna is you can just great about our sauna is you can just great about our sauna is you can just get in, you know, turn it on and get in. get in, you know, turn it on and get in. get in, you know, turn it on and get in. And you will notice And you will notice And you will notice how your body is receiving the energy. how your body is receiving the energy. how your body is receiving the energy. You will notice how you feel. And I You will notice how you feel. And I You will notice how you feel. And I agree, don't push through. Like if all agree, don't push through. Like if all agree, don't push through. Like if all of a sudden you feel dizzy or you feel, of a sudden you feel dizzy or you feel, of a sudden you feel dizzy or you feel, you know, nauseous or you just feel like you know, nauseous or you just feel like you know, nauseous or you just feel like so fatigued, that's an indicator that so fatigued, that's an indicator that so fatigued, that's an indicator that you know, get out, drink a lot of water, you know, get out, drink a lot of water, you know, get out, drink a lot of water, go back to your routine, and then try it

30:00go back to your routine, and then try it go back to your routine, and then try it again in another day. So, we know in again in another day. So, we know in again in another day. So, we know in sauna therapy that many things come out sauna therapy that many things come out sauna therapy that many things come out in the sweat and we'll talk more about in the sweat and we'll talk more about in the sweat and we'll talk more about that. But we also know and I think that. But we also know and I think that. But we also know and I think people sometimes don't think about the people sometimes don't think about the people sometimes don't think about the fact that infrared can penetrate into fact that infrared can penetrate into fact that infrared can penetrate into the body and we can thus mobilize toxins the body and we can thus mobilize toxins the body and we can thus mobilize toxins in the body itself that then have to be in the body itself that then have to be in the body itself that then have to be processed by our detoxification and processed by our detoxification and processed by our detoxification and drainage systems after the session is drainage systems after the session is drainage systems after the session is over. So if we're thinking liver, over. So if we're thinking liver, over. So if we're thinking liver, kidneys, lymphatics, the extracellular kidneys, lymphatics, the extracellular kidneys, lymphatics, the extracellular matrix, the gut, the skin, the lungs, matrix, the gut, the skin, the lungs, matrix, the gut, the skin, the lungs, how important is it to support how important is it to support how important is it to support detoxification, to have open drainage detoxification, to have open drainage detoxification, to have open drainage pathways when we're thinking about pathways when we're thinking about pathways when we're thinking about things from the really from the lens of things from the really from the lens of things from the really from the lens of toxins that could be mobilized inside toxins that could be mobilized inside toxins that could be mobilized inside the body and wondering building on that, the body and wondering building on that, the body and wondering building on that, do you suggest that people take binders do you suggest that people take binders do you suggest that people take binders to catch some of what's mobilized in the to catch some of what's mobilized in the to catch some of what's mobilized in the body during a session? And if so, how body during a session? And if so, how body during a session? And if so, how would we time the binder

31:00would we time the binder would we time the binder compared to the sauna? Yeah. So, 100% I compared to the sauna? Yeah. So, 100% I compared to the sauna? Yeah. So, 100% I I would I would want somebody So, I would I would want somebody So, I would I would want somebody So, somebody who is is really struggling, somebody who is is really struggling, somebody who is is really struggling, you're going to get so I'm so glad you you're going to get so I'm so glad you you're going to get so I'm so glad you brought that up. You're going to get so brought that up. You're going to get so brought that up. You're going to get so much benefit from the energy helping to much benefit from the energy helping to much benefit from the energy helping to mobilize everything is again starting mobilize everything is again starting mobilize everything is again starting that flow process. I kind of just that flow process. I kind of just that flow process. I kind of just visually think about inside of just this visually think about inside of just this visually think about inside of just this just like inward motility of just this just like inward motility of just this just like inward motility of just this wonderful vibration and transfer of of wonderful vibration and transfer of of wonderful vibration and transfer of of cells and just this you know cells and just this you know cells and just this you know supercharging infrared supercharging supercharging infrared supercharging supercharging infrared supercharging your cells that starts to happen right your cells that starts to happen right your cells that starts to happen right away. So, and then everything starts to away. So, and then everything starts to away. So, and then everything starts to I said there's this cascade of events I said there's this cascade of events I said there's this cascade of events that start to impact the the different that start to impact the the different that start to impact the the different organs that usually you mentioned the organs that usually you mentioned the organs that usually you mentioned the liver and the brain and the kidneys. And liver and the brain and the kidneys. And liver and the brain and the kidneys. And so then and then you're going to have so then and then you're going to have so then and then you're going to have after the session, you know, the chance after the session, you know, the chance after the session, you know, the chance to, you know, to excrete the toxins that to, you know, to excrete the toxins that to, you know, to excrete the toxins that were just mobilized. And so you don't were just mobilized. And so you don't were just mobilized. And so you don't you don't need at the beginning well and

32:00you don't need at the beginning well and you don't need at the beginning well and well, I would never ever push through well, I would never ever push through well, I would never ever push through anything. So I would never I would anything. So I would never I would anything. So I would never I would always stop. But you don't need to be in always stop. But you don't need to be in always stop. But you don't need to be in there for a long period of time to get there for a long period of time to get there for a long period of time to get those benefits. So that's really really those benefits. So that's really really those benefits. So that's really really important and glad you brought that up. important and glad you brought that up. important and glad you brought that up. And as far as binders, And as far as binders, And as far as binders, there's a lot of wellness experts that there's a lot of wellness experts that there's a lot of wellness experts that use our saunas that that are big huge use our saunas that that are big huge use our saunas that that are big huge proponents of binders. I am not an proponents of binders. I am not an proponents of binders. I am not an expert on timing of binders with a expert on timing of binders with a expert on timing of binders with a sauna. It's not something that I sauna. It's not something that I sauna. It's not something that I personally use, but I do know for sure personally use, but I do know for sure personally use, but I do know for sure without a shadow of a doubt. I mean I've without a shadow of a doubt. I mean I've without a shadow of a doubt. I mean I've talked to so many people and they are talked to so many people and they are talked to so many people and they are huge huge there you go huge advocates of huge huge there you go huge advocates of huge huge there you go huge advocates of and I I would think just intuitively you and I I would think just intuitively you and I I would think just intuitively you know you would want it you know before know you would want it you know before know you would want it you know before you take your sauna session but I am not you take your sauna session but I am not you take your sauna session but I am not an expert. So if we're thinking then an expert. So if we're thinking then an expert. So if we're thinking then about more sensitive patients, maybe about more sensitive patients, maybe about more sensitive patients, maybe they have mass cell activation syndrome, they have mass cell activation syndrome, they have mass cell activation syndrome, maybe they have multiple chemical maybe they have multiple chemical maybe they have multiple chemical sensitivity, many are sensitive to

33:00sensitivity, many are sensitive to sensitivity, many are sensitive to foods, to light, to sound, to EMFs, foods, to light, to sound, to EMFs, foods, to light, to sound, to EMFs, which we'll talk more about later. and which we'll talk more about later. and which we'll talk more about later. and potentially mobilizing heavy metals and potentially mobilizing heavy metals and potentially mobilizing heavy metals and other things in the body can trigger other things in the body can trigger other things in the body can trigger mass cells in some scenarios can lead to mass cells in some scenarios can lead to mass cells in some scenarios can lead to some disregulation of the immune system some disregulation of the immune system some disregulation of the immune system potentially some inflammation. So should potentially some inflammation. So should potentially some inflammation. So should people be at a certain level of their people be at a certain level of their people be at a certain level of their recovery before they even think about recovery before they even think about recovery before they even think about sauna or is the approach to just start sauna or is the approach to just start sauna or is the approach to just start slow and low and not push beyond what slow and low and not push beyond what slow and low and not push beyond what the ultra sensitive patient might be the ultra sensitive patient might be the ultra sensitive patient might be able to tolerate? Yes. So gosh, you were able to tolerate? Yes. So gosh, you were able to tolerate? Yes. So gosh, you were just bringing back so many memories of just bringing back so many memories of just bringing back so many memories of when we first started the company and when we first started the company and when we first started the company and because the majority of people way back because the majority of people way back because the majority of people way back then in the basement were people that then in the basement were people that then in the basement were people that you just described because those were you just described because those were you just described because those were the individuals that were on a hunt and the individuals that were on a hunt and the individuals that were on a hunt and they were searching for a solution. And they were searching for a solution. And they were searching for a solution. And so we helped so many people, you know, so we helped so many people, you know, so we helped so many people, you know, back then and over the the, you know,

34:00back then and over the the, you know, back then and over the the, you know, the first 10 years of of Sunlightened the first 10 years of of Sunlightened the first 10 years of of Sunlightened because because because very quickly into the beginning of our very quickly into the beginning of our very quickly into the beginning of our company, we we learned about that how to company, we we learned about that how to company, we we learned about that how to deliver the most amount of infrared into deliver the most amount of infrared into deliver the most amount of infrared into the body. And that's really the secret the body. And that's really the secret the body. And that's really the secret sauce behind sunlightening. And what the sauce behind sunlightening. And what the sauce behind sunlightening. And what the reason I bring that up with this reason I bring that up with this reason I bring that up with this particular audience is because we're particular audience is because we're particular audience is because we're filtering out that hot air completely. I filtering out that hot air completely. I filtering out that hot air completely. I mean, it's 99%. mean, it's 99%. mean, it's 99%. So, you can't get 100. So, you're you're So, you can't get 100. So, you're you're So, you can't get 100. So, you're you're getting 99% absorption. getting 99% absorption. getting 99% absorption. And so, you're you're you're I always And so, you're you're you're I always And so, you're you're you're I always picture kind of a funnel. You know, we picture kind of a funnel. You know, we picture kind of a funnel. You know, we we're figuring out how to funnel just we're figuring out how to funnel just we're figuring out how to funnel just the healing part of the infrared. So the healing part of the infrared. So the healing part of the infrared. So that hot air that a lot of times that hot air that a lot of times that hot air that a lot of times triggers people and has negative triggers people and has negative triggers people and has negative reactions on the body is being filtered reactions on the body is being filtered reactions on the body is being filtered out. And I have heard countless stories out. And I have heard countless stories out. And I have heard countless stories from individuals who tried other from individuals who tried other from individuals who tried other infrared saunas who have these to have

35:00infrared saunas who have these to have infrared saunas who have these to have mass you know cell and they have said mass you know cell and they have said mass you know cell and they have said that that it that makes them feel worse that that it that makes them feel worse that that it that makes them feel worse and it so like they can't they can't use and it so like they can't they can't use and it so like they can't they can't use it. Wasn't until they discovered it. Wasn't until they discovered it. Wasn't until they discovered sunlightens because of our technology sunlightens because of our technology sunlightens because of our technology and our technology is different than and our technology is different than and our technology is different than other types of infrared technology other types of infrared technology other types of infrared technology because of our patent that it filters because of our patent that it filters because of our patent that it filters everything out and so they're just everything out and so they're just everything out and so they're just getting the healing part and they're getting the healing part and they're getting the healing part and they're able to tolerate it really really well. able to tolerate it really really well. able to tolerate it really really well. In fact, it's like being game changers In fact, it's like being game changers In fact, it's like being game changers on their on their bodies. So when you on their on their bodies. So when you on their on their bodies. So when you say it's filtering out the heat, how hot say it's filtering out the heat, how hot say it's filtering out the heat, how hot does it get inside the sauna during a does it get inside the sauna during a does it get inside the sauna during a session? Yeah. So you it's you know session? Yeah. So you it's you know session? Yeah. So you it's you know ranges between 110 ranges between 110 ranges between 110 130 depending on which which sauna I 130 depending on which which sauna I 130 depending on which which sauna I mean the solo which is a light model mean the solo which is a light model mean the solo which is a light model when I mean it can get up there closer when I mean it can get up there closer when I mean it can get up there closer to 140 150 if you choose the higher to 140 150 if you choose the higher to 140 150 if you choose the higher settings but that for for this for the settings but that for for this for the settings but that for for this for the for these conditions I would never in a for these conditions I would never in a for these conditions I would never in a million years you know want you to to million years you know want you to to million years you know want you to to probably ever choose that because you're

36:00probably ever choose that because you're probably ever choose that because you're starting to get you know this really starting to get you know this really starting to get you know this really high levels of of heat. We know because high levels of of heat. We know because high levels of of heat. We know because we see the temperature and that's not we see the temperature and that's not we see the temperature and that's not what the that's not what the experience what the that's not what the experience what the that's not what the experience is all about. One of the things that is all about. One of the things that is all about. One of the things that I've also observed over the years is if I've also observed over the years is if I've also observed over the years is if people have adrenal dysregulation, their people have adrenal dysregulation, their people have adrenal dysregulation, their body is under stress from so many body is under stress from so many body is under stress from so many different factors that sometimes they different factors that sometimes they different factors that sometimes they may not respond as well to more may not respond as well to more may not respond as well to more aggressive sauna therapy. Maybe they aggressive sauna therapy. Maybe they aggressive sauna therapy. Maybe they can't tolerate the heat. maybe their can't tolerate the heat. maybe their can't tolerate the heat. maybe their body just can't deal with the stress of body just can't deal with the stress of body just can't deal with the stress of the detoxification itself. So, I'm the detoxification itself. So, I'm the detoxification itself. So, I'm wondering, do you find that there are wondering, do you find that there are wondering, do you find that there are some people that need to support their some people that need to support their some people that need to support their adrenals before they better tolerate or adrenals before they better tolerate or adrenals before they better tolerate or can increase their use of the sauna? And can increase their use of the sauna? And can increase their use of the sauna? And what are your thoughts around people who what are your thoughts around people who what are your thoughts around people who are more adrenally exhausted in terms of are more adrenally exhausted in terms of are more adrenally exhausted in terms of when sauna therapy might be an optimal when sauna therapy might be an optimal when sauna therapy might be an optimal tool in their chronic illness recovery tool in their chronic illness recovery tool in their chronic illness recovery timeline? We have found that it's ideal timeline? We have found that it's ideal timeline? We have found that it's ideal to go ahead and get started you know and

37:00to go ahead and get started you know and to go ahead and get started you know and the key is the you know hydration aspect the key is the you know hydration aspect the key is the you know hydration aspect and to you know go low and slow and you and to you know go low and slow and you and to you know go low and slow and you know monitor your progress but there are know monitor your progress but there are know monitor your progress but there are so many underlying conditions that so many underlying conditions that so many underlying conditions that infrared energy can assist with on the infrared energy can assist with on the infrared energy can assist with on the body that can help people in that body that can help people in that body that can help people in that situation that it would be smarter to go situation that it would be smarter to go situation that it would be smarter to go ahead and help let the energy you know, ahead and help let the energy you know, ahead and help let the energy you know, let the light and the heat start to heal let the light and the heat start to heal let the light and the heat start to heal you and then that's going to be your you and then that's going to be your you and then that's going to be your tool, your foundational tool that's tool, your foundational tool that's tool, your foundational tool that's going to go along the way as you start going to go along the way as you start going to go along the way as you start to feel better. No, I like this and to feel better. No, I like this and to feel better. No, I like this and you're even shifting my thought process you're even shifting my thought process you're even shifting my thought process a bit in terms of starting slow and low a bit in terms of starting slow and low a bit in terms of starting slow and low even earlier in the recovery process. even earlier in the recovery process. even earlier in the recovery process. Many people early on cannot sweat, which Many people early on cannot sweat, which Many people early on cannot sweat, which is another challenge for using sauna. is another challenge for using sauna. is another challenge for using sauna. So, I tend to think of that as either So, I tend to think of that as either So, I tend to think of that as either lymphatic system congestion. It could be lymphatic system congestion. It could be lymphatic system congestion. It could be a hydration issue, which we'll talk a hydration issue, which we'll talk a hydration issue, which we'll talk about. So, let's dig into some of those.

38:00about. So, let's dig into some of those. about. So, let's dig into some of those. Should we potentially do some dry skin Should we potentially do some dry skin Should we potentially do some dry skin brushing to support the lymphatics and brushing to support the lymphatics and brushing to support the lymphatics and open the pores before we get into the open the pores before we get into the open the pores before we get into the sauna? If we do have some inability to sauna? If we do have some inability to sauna? If we do have some inability to sweat, should we maybe use a rebounder? sweat, should we maybe use a rebounder? sweat, should we maybe use a rebounder? Should we hydrate before, maybe even Should we hydrate before, maybe even Should we hydrate before, maybe even during and after the sauna to support during and after the sauna to support during and after the sauna to support our body's ability to sweat? And if we our body's ability to sweat? And if we our body's ability to sweat? And if we should hydrate, are we better to use should hydrate, are we better to use should hydrate, are we better to use warm water or cold water? Yeah. Um, all warm water or cold water? Yeah. Um, all warm water or cold water? Yeah. Um, all great questions and again brings back so great questions and again brings back so great questions and again brings back so many memories of people who I used to many memories of people who I used to many memories of people who I used to talk to who couldn't sweat and they talk to who couldn't sweat and they talk to who couldn't sweat and they would just like Connie, I don't know would just like Connie, I don't know would just like Connie, I don't know what to do, you know, and we helped what to do, you know, and we helped what to do, you know, and we helped them. And so how how we we did that is them. And so how how we we did that is them. And so how how we we did that is that dry brushing is an excellent that dry brushing is an excellent that dry brushing is an excellent choice. Any type of activity that's choice. Any type of activity that's choice. Any type of activity that's going to, you know, try and help get the going to, you know, try and help get the going to, you know, try and help get the lymphatic system going or helping get lymphatic system going or helping get lymphatic system going or helping get flow going, you know, in the body is is flow going, you know, in the body is is flow going, you know, in the body is is is great before you get in the sauna. is great before you get in the sauna. is great before you get in the sauna. And then also hydration is the that was

39:00And then also hydration is the that was And then also hydration is the that was the number one thing we found out of the number one thing we found out of the number one thing we found out of everything over the years is so many everything over the years is so many everything over the years is so many people are dehy and and more dehydrated people are dehy and and more dehydrated people are dehy and and more dehydrated than they realize. Not just dehydrated than they realize. Not just dehydrated than they realize. Not just dehydrated is oh just like have a little bit of is oh just like have a little bit of is oh just like have a little bit of water. I mean really significantly water. I mean really significantly water. I mean really significantly dehydrated. dehydrated. dehydrated. And it's really hard on your body to be And it's really hard on your body to be And it's really hard on your body to be able to sweat if you're not properly able to sweat if you're not properly able to sweat if you're not properly hydrated. And so we found that if they hydrated. And so we found that if they hydrated. And so we found that if they would do before, during and then tons would do before, during and then tons would do before, during and then tons post that that was really a great post that that was really a great post that that was really a great solution for that category of people who solution for that category of people who solution for that category of people who were suffering that not able to not able were suffering that not able to not able were suffering that not able to not able to sweat. But I love your idea of of dry to sweat. But I love your idea of of dry to sweat. But I love your idea of of dry brushing. I mean I think that's that's brushing. I mean I think that's that's brushing. I mean I think that's that's an excellent easy solution to do as an excellent easy solution to do as an excellent easy solution to do as well. But I always told people, you well. But I always told people, you well. But I always told people, you know, I said, "Bring your, you know, know, I said, "Bring your, you know, know, I said, "Bring your, you know, glass of water inside your sauna and, glass of water inside your sauna and, glass of water inside your sauna and, you know, drink it while you're in there you know, drink it while you're in there you know, drink it while you're in there to support your body and to help your to support your body and to help your to support your body and to help your body." And eventually

40:00body." And eventually body." And eventually they're they're they're going to be able they're they're they're going to be able they're they're they're going to be able to I mean, they they may not sweat as to I mean, they they may not sweat as to I mean, they they may not sweat as profusely as, you know, somebody, you profusely as, you know, somebody, you profusely as, you know, somebody, you know, a different situation, but know, a different situation, but know, a different situation, but generally speaking, most people were generally speaking, most people were generally speaking, most people were able to, you know, have some sweat able to, you know, have some sweat able to, you know, have some sweat beads, you know, over time. The the beads, you know, over time. The the beads, you know, over time. The the thing also let's that I want to mention thing also let's that I want to mention thing also let's that I want to mention because I remember having these because I remember having these because I remember having these conversations. They were concerned that conversations. They were concerned that conversations. They were concerned that if they didn't sweat they weren't going if they didn't sweat they weren't going if they didn't sweat they weren't going to get the healing and the benefits to get the healing and the benefits to get the healing and the benefits especially for detoxification especially for detoxification especially for detoxification and that's just not true. So because as and that's just not true. So because as and that's just not true. So because as we talked about earlier the way that the we talked about earlier the way that the we talked about earlier the way that the infrared energy can impact the body and infrared energy can impact the body and infrared energy can impact the body and start to mobilize start to mobilize start to mobilize everything and then the body starts to everything and then the body starts to everything and then the body starts to remove it. That's important and you remove it. That's important and you remove it. That's important and you don't have to sweat in order to have don't have to sweat in order to have don't have to sweat in order to have that happen. And if I remember that happen. And if I remember that happen. And if I remember correctly, since we are heating more correctly, since we are heating more correctly, since we are heating more from the inside out with infrared, that from the inside out with infrared, that from the inside out with infrared, that your recommendation is that when you're your recommendation is that when you're your recommendation is that when you're drinking water to be drinking warm water drinking water to be drinking warm water drinking water to be drinking warm water and not cold water when we're doing the

41:00and not cold water when we're doing the and not cold water when we're doing the sauna itself. And then what about food? sauna itself. And then what about food? sauna itself. And then what about food? Should people not eat a lot before they Should people not eat a lot before they Should people not eat a lot before they go do a sauna? What what is the go do a sauna? What what is the go do a sauna? What what is the recommendation as far as food? That's a recommendation as far as food? That's a recommendation as far as food? That's a great question. You know, we t we don't great question. You know, we t we don't great question. You know, we t we don't really I most most people that that have really I most most people that that have really I most most people that that have a sunlighten a lot of I shouldn't say a sunlighten a lot of I shouldn't say a sunlighten a lot of I shouldn't say most but a lot of people that are most but a lot of people that are most but a lot of people that are optimizing right like that are just like optimizing right like that are just like optimizing right like that are just like they're they're really optimizing their they're they're really optimizing their they're they're really optimizing their life. They're building this whole, you life. They're building this whole, you life. They're building this whole, you know, wellness plan. They also do, and I know, wellness plan. They also do, and I know, wellness plan. They also do, and I don't know how you feel about don't know how you feel about don't know how you feel about intermittent fasting, but, you know, intermittent fasting, but, you know, intermittent fasting, but, you know, they would typically do intermittent they would typically do intermittent they would typically do intermittent fasting. And so, they find that in when fasting. And so, they find that in when fasting. And so, they find that in when they do their sauna, they'll do it in they do their sauna, they'll do it in they do their sauna, they'll do it in the morning during that that part. So, the morning during that that part. So, the morning during that that part. So, that's typically I I mean, I can speak that's typically I I mean, I can speak that's typically I I mean, I can speak from my personal, you know, use and my from my personal, you know, use and my from my personal, you know, use and my personal journey. I always do warm, if personal journey. I always do warm, if personal journey. I always do warm, if not almost hot. I mean, water for sure not almost hot. I mean, water for sure not almost hot. I mean, water for sure and and I always do it in the morning and and I always do it in the morning

42:00and and I always do it in the morning and before a meal before. I I I've never and before a meal before. I I I've never and before a meal before. I I I've never I don't think in all these years. I'm I don't think in all these years. I'm I don't think in all these years. I'm not sure I've ever gone into my sauna not sure I've ever gone into my sauna not sure I've ever gone into my sauna right after eating. So, when we're right after eating. So, when we're right after eating. So, when we're thinking then about water and hydration, thinking then about water and hydration, thinking then about water and hydration, do you recommend that people add do you recommend that people add do you recommend that people add electrolytes or trace minerals when electrolytes or trace minerals when electrolytes or trace minerals when they're doing sauna so that they're not they're doing sauna so that they're not they're doing sauna so that they're not getting depleted by whatever's coming getting depleted by whatever's coming getting depleted by whatever's coming out in the sweat? Is that even something out in the sweat? Is that even something out in the sweat? Is that even something we need to think about the potential we need to think about the potential we need to think about the potential depletion of electrolytes or minerals? depletion of electrolytes or minerals? depletion of electrolytes or minerals? And what are some of the things that we And what are some of the things that we And what are some of the things that we might then want to replete in the body might then want to replete in the body might then want to replete in the body that could be lost during sauna therapy? that could be lost during sauna therapy? that could be lost during sauna therapy? Yes, absolutely. I mean, absolutely need Yes, absolutely. I mean, absolutely need Yes, absolutely. I mean, absolutely need to think about it. It's so important. to think about it. It's so important. to think about it. It's so important. Remember that this is a powerful Remember that this is a powerful Remember that this is a powerful medicine. We'll call this is a powerful medicine. We'll call this is a powerful medicine. We'll call this is a powerful tool, longevity tool, the infrared sauna tool, longevity tool, the infrared sauna tool, longevity tool, the infrared sauna that is changing the way your cells that is changing the way your cells that is changing the way your cells communicate. It's changing the flow of communicate. It's changing the flow of communicate. It's changing the flow of your cells. It's changing the flow of your cells. It's changing the flow of your cells. It's changing the flow of your body. You know, it's it's your body. You know, it's it's your body. You know, it's it's mobilizing and all of that activity

43:00mobilizing and all of that activity mobilizing and all of that activity can lead to getting rid of stuff that can lead to getting rid of stuff that can lead to getting rid of stuff that you don't want to get rid of. So, so you you don't want to get rid of. So, so you you don't want to get rid of. So, so you want to make sure that you are want to make sure that you are want to make sure that you are replenishing the important, you know, replenishing the important, you know, replenishing the important, you know, parts of your um you know, your body. So parts of your um you know, your body. So parts of your um you know, your body. So for example, for example, for example, sodium, you know, is something that you sodium, you know, is something that you sodium, you know, is something that you want to make sure you add an want to make sure you add an want to make sure you add an electrolyte. Magnesium, electrolyte. Magnesium, electrolyte. Magnesium, potassium, potassium, potassium, you want to make sure. So yeah, you want to make sure. So yeah, you want to make sure. So yeah, monitoring that, picking a, you know, or monitoring that, picking a, you know, or monitoring that, picking a, you know, or you can make your own, you know, version you can make your own, you know, version you can make your own, you know, version with like some some coconut water and with like some some coconut water and with like some some coconut water and some sea salt and, you know, put in, you some sea salt and, you know, put in, you some sea salt and, you know, put in, you know, different types of know, different types of know, different types of things in there and and concoction. But things in there and and concoction. But things in there and and concoction. But definitely paying attention to it is is definitely paying attention to it is is definitely paying attention to it is is is really really important. And I think is really really important. And I think is really really important. And I think sometimes when we have the electrolytes sometimes when we have the electrolytes sometimes when we have the electrolytes or the sea salt or the trace minerals or the sea salt or the trace minerals or the sea salt or the trace minerals that that then can help to further that that then can help to further that that then can help to further hydrate us at a more cellular level

44:00hydrate us at a more cellular level hydrate us at a more cellular level where otherwise a lot of people with where otherwise a lot of people with where otherwise a lot of people with lime and mold illness that have low lime and mold illness that have low lime and mold illness that have low antidiuretic hormone tend to drink all antidiuretic hormone tend to drink all antidiuretic hormone tend to drink all day, pee it out, and are still day, pee it out, and are still day, pee it out, and are still dehydrated. So, it sounds like adding dehydrated. So, it sounds like adding dehydrated. So, it sounds like adding some of these things to the water has some of these things to the water has some of these things to the water has the potential to increase our ability to the potential to increase our ability to the potential to increase our ability to retain the water, which then can support retain the water, which then can support retain the water, which then can support our ability to sweat. Exactly. Perfectly our ability to sweat. Exactly. Perfectly our ability to sweat. Exactly. Perfectly said. Many people with complex chronic said. Many people with complex chronic said. Many people with complex chronic illnesses have some aspect of lyic illnesses have some aspect of lyic illnesses have some aspect of lyic system impairment, of vag nerve system impairment, of vag nerve system impairment, of vag nerve dysregulation, of autonomic nervous dysregulation, of autonomic nervous dysregulation, of autonomic nervous system hypervigilance. And I often think system hypervigilance. And I often think system hypervigilance. And I often think of the autonomic nervous system of the autonomic nervous system of the autonomic nervous system dysregulation as another reason why some dysregulation as another reason why some dysregulation as another reason why some people are not able to sweat. That's people are not able to sweat. That's people are not able to sweat. That's controlled by in part the autonomic controlled by in part the autonomic controlled by in part the autonomic nervous system. So do you find that nervous system. So do you find that nervous system. So do you find that there's benefit to doing things that are there's benefit to doing things that are there's benefit to doing things that are going to calm the nervous system in going to calm the nervous system in going to calm the nervous system in preparation for detoxification? preparation for detoxification? preparation for detoxification? And can sauna itself assist in

45:00And can sauna itself assist in And can sauna itself assist in supporting our parasympathetic nervous supporting our parasympathetic nervous supporting our parasympathetic nervous system as a foundational requirement for system as a foundational requirement for system as a foundational requirement for healing? In other words, can sauna help healing? In other words, can sauna help healing? In other words, can sauna help us to move out of fight, flight, or us to move out of fight, flight, or us to move out of fight, flight, or freeze and more into a rest, digest, freeze and more into a rest, digest, freeze and more into a rest, digest, detoxify, and heal state? Absolutely. detoxify, and heal state? Absolutely. detoxify, and heal state? Absolutely. It's one of my favorite benefits and it It's one of my favorite benefits and it It's one of my favorite benefits and it makes me think of Leanne Rimes. She makes me think of Leanne Rimes. She makes me think of Leanne Rimes. She shares her story about how she over the shares her story about how she over the shares her story about how she over the years, ever since she's been 14, she's years, ever since she's been 14, she's years, ever since she's been 14, she's been in that, you know, that freeze been in that, you know, that freeze been in that, you know, that freeze freeze form and has, as a result, freeze form and has, as a result, freeze form and has, as a result, experienced high high levels of anxiety experienced high high levels of anxiety experienced high high levels of anxiety and just some, you know, serious and just some, you know, serious and just some, you know, serious depression and has had to figure out depression and has had to figure out depression and has had to figure out ways to to go through that and to to ways to to go through that and to to ways to to go through that and to to live with it. And then then comes the live with it. And then then comes the live with it. And then then comes the time where she's her cycle starts time where she's her cycle starts time where she's her cycle starts changing. she starts to get, you know, changing. she starts to get, you know, changing. she starts to get, you know, into pmenopause and into pmenopause and into pmenopause and just, you know, hormones are changing just, you know, hormones are changing just, you know, hormones are changing and everything. And it wasn't until her and everything. And it wasn't until her and everything. And it wasn't until her doctor recommended a sunlight and sauna.

46:00doctor recommended a sunlight and sauna. doctor recommended a sunlight and sauna. And she always shares that she literally And she always shares that she literally And she always shares that she literally will go she goes in there and she's, you will go she goes in there and she's, you will go she goes in there and she's, you know, her head is is in that that that know, her head is is in that that that know, her head is is in that that that state. state. state. And as soon as she gets in, she just And as soon as she gets in, she just And as soon as she gets in, she just completely starts, it changes her completely starts, it changes her completely starts, it changes her breath. It changes her brain. It changes breath. It changes her brain. It changes breath. It changes her brain. It changes her whole mood. And she says she can go her whole mood. And she says she can go her whole mood. And she says she can go in there when the everything is about to in there when the everything is about to in there when the everything is about to crash. And she comes out completely, you crash. And she comes out completely, you crash. And she comes out completely, you know, relaxed and refreshed and like she know, relaxed and refreshed and like she know, relaxed and refreshed and like she can conquer anything. She calls it her can conquer anything. She calls it her can conquer anything. She calls it her her happiness in a box. her happiness in a box. her happiness in a box. I mean, I like that idea, too, of having I mean, I like that idea, too, of having I mean, I like that idea, too, of having kind of the intention of your sauna kind kind of the intention of your sauna kind kind of the intention of your sauna kind kind of being your safe space that you kind of being your safe space that you kind of being your safe space that you can just step away from the stress of can just step away from the stress of can just step away from the stress of the world. In my mind, environmental the world. In my mind, environmental the world. In my mind, environmental toxicity plays a really foundational toxicity plays a really foundational toxicity plays a really foundational role in many chronic complex conditions. role in many chronic complex conditions. role in many chronic complex conditions. And I honestly think that most health And I honestly think that most health And I honestly think that most health conditions that we have today would not

47:00conditions that we have today would not conditions that we have today would not even exist if we didn't have such even exist if we didn't have such even exist if we didn't have such exposure to environmental toxicants. So exposure to environmental toxicants. So exposure to environmental toxicants. So from that perspective, has the sweat or from that perspective, has the sweat or from that perspective, has the sweat or maybe even the urine been tested in the maybe even the urine been tested in the maybe even the urine been tested in the context of infrared sauna therapy to see context of infrared sauna therapy to see context of infrared sauna therapy to see what's actually coming out? Are we what's actually coming out? Are we what's actually coming out? Are we seeing metals? Are we seeing chemicals? seeing metals? Are we seeing chemicals? seeing metals? Are we seeing chemicals? Are we seeing pesticides like Are we seeing pesticides like Are we seeing pesticides like glyphosate? Are we seeing micotoxins? glyphosate? Are we seeing micotoxins? glyphosate? Are we seeing micotoxins? What are the primary things that you're What are the primary things that you're What are the primary things that you're seeing in the sweat, also potentially in seeing in the sweat, also potentially in seeing in the sweat, also potentially in the urine? I know you've talked before the urine? I know you've talked before the urine? I know you've talked before about how we're exposed to as many as about how we're exposed to as many as about how we're exposed to as many as 700,000 700,000 700,000 chemicals per day, which if I got that chemicals per day, which if I got that chemicals per day, which if I got that right, still sounds shocking even to me, right, still sounds shocking even to me, right, still sounds shocking even to me, and wondering how broad infrared sauna's and wondering how broad infrared sauna's and wondering how broad infrared sauna's ability is to remove these health ability is to remove these health ability is to remove these health negating materials from our systems. negating materials from our systems. negating materials from our systems. Yeah. No, that's correct. to everything Yeah. No, that's correct. to everything Yeah. No, that's correct. to everything that you said and so so well stated and that you said and so so well stated and that you said and so so well stated and the technology of infrared is one of the the technology of infrared is one of the the technology of infrared is one of the greatest solutions to helping both you

48:00greatest solutions to helping both you greatest solutions to helping both you get rid of the toxins as well as get rid of the toxins as well as get rid of the toxins as well as preparing the body for things that are preparing the body for things that are preparing the body for things that are outside your control right like we can't outside your control right like we can't outside your control right like we can't control when we go outside the fact that control when we go outside the fact that control when we go outside the fact that we are exposed to so many chemicals we we are exposed to so many chemicals we we are exposed to so many chemicals we can't control when we go into a store we can't control when we go into a store we can't control when we go into a store we can't I mean there's so many places that can't I mean there's so many places that can't I mean there's so many places that we go into that we can't control what is we go into that we can't control what is we go into that we can't control what is in the air that we're breathing. And in the air that we're breathing. And in the air that we're breathing. And what we can control is what we do at what we can control is what we do at what we can control is what we do at home, you know, in the comfort of our home, you know, in the comfort of our home, you know, in the comfort of our home. And there have been studies, in home. And there have been studies, in home. And there have been studies, in fact, there's a study that was called fact, there's a study that was called fact, there's a study that was called the blood, urine, sweat study, the B US the blood, urine, sweat study, the B US the blood, urine, sweat study, the B US study, and it was actually done by an study, and it was actually done by an study, and it was actually done by an environmental physician who wanted who environmental physician who wanted who environmental physician who wanted who wanted women to be healthy as they wanted women to be healthy as they wanted women to be healthy as they prepared for pregnancy. So, it's a great prepared for pregnancy. So, it's a great prepared for pregnancy. So, it's a great backstory. And what we found in that backstory. And what we found in that backstory. And what we found in that study was that sweat mattered, meaning study was that sweat mattered, meaning study was that sweat mattered, meaning that there was there was tests done on

49:00that there was there was tests done on that there was there was tests done on on the participants with blood and urine on the participants with blood and urine on the participants with blood and urine and the ones that did not have any and the ones that did not have any and the ones that did not have any mercury in their blood mercury in their blood mercury in their blood like well 15 15% had none in their like well 15 15% had none in their like well 15 15% had none in their blood, but 100% of that 15% had it in blood, but 100% of that 15% had it in blood, but 100% of that 15% had it in their sweat. So meaning that sweat their sweat. So meaning that sweat their sweat. So meaning that sweat definitely it's not it's not the only definitely it's not it's not the only definitely it's not it's not the only way right to detoxify but it definitely way right to detoxify but it definitely way right to detoxify but it definitely helps to mobilize and to get rid of helps to mobilize and to get rid of helps to mobilize and to get rid of things that are really heavy and hard to things that are really heavy and hard to things that are really heavy and hard to get rid of such as mercury. I mean we get rid of such as mercury. I mean we get rid of such as mercury. I mean we know for sure that it's just such a hard know for sure that it's just such a hard know for sure that it's just such a hard thing to get out of the body once it thing to get out of the body once it thing to get out of the body once it gets in there. And other gets in there. And other gets in there. And other products that were removed, toxicants products that were removed, toxicants products that were removed, toxicants that were removed from the body were that were removed from the body were that were removed from the body were mercury, lead, cadmium, aluminum. I know mercury, lead, cadmium, aluminum. I know mercury, lead, cadmium, aluminum. I know we did a study with UMKC back 2005 and we did a study with UMKC back 2005 and we did a study with UMKC back 2005 and we found arsenic that we removed was

50:00we found arsenic that we removed was we found arsenic that we removed was with a result of people using our with a result of people using our with a result of people using our sunlight and solo. So those are some of sunlight and solo. So those are some of sunlight and solo. So those are some of the the toxicants that were reported to the the toxicants that were reported to the the toxicants that were reported to to be removed. We over the years, this to be removed. We over the years, this to be removed. We over the years, this is kind of a side story, just brings me is kind of a side story, just brings me is kind of a side story, just brings me back, but people used to send us, this back, but people used to send us, this back, but people used to send us, this is before anybody would even think of is before anybody would even think of is before anybody would even think of measuring their sweat, right? But that measuring their sweat, right? But that measuring their sweat, right? But that so they would send us their blood work so they would send us their blood work so they would send us their blood work after using our sauna. It was so sweet after using our sauna. It was so sweet after using our sauna. It was so sweet and and special and precious. I used to and and special and precious. I used to and and special and precious. I used to keep all everybody's I have this file of keep all everybody's I have this file of keep all everybody's I have this file of everybody's blood work from our everybody's blood work from our everybody's blood work from our customers. I would send it. that my customers. I would send it. that my customers. I would send it. that my point is they would send us like pre point is they would send us like pre point is they would send us like pre sauna and post sauna and some of the sauna and post sauna and some of the sauna and post sauna and some of the heavy metals and some like that was so heavy metals and some like that was so heavy metals and some like that was so powerful. People that would test that powerful. People that would test that powerful. People that would test that the mercury just completely changed and the mercury just completely changed and the mercury just completely changed and from from being high to being gone. It's from from being high to being gone. It's from from being high to being gone. It's crazy. So this day and age we have tools crazy. So this day and age we have tools crazy. So this day and age we have tools like the vibrant total talks or the

51:00like the vibrant total talks or the like the vibrant total talks or the mosaic tox detect that are looking at mosaic tox detect that are looking at mosaic tox detect that are looking at chemicals, pesticides, metals, all kinds chemicals, pesticides, metals, all kinds chemicals, pesticides, metals, all kinds of things. Are you seeing before and of things. Are you seeing before and of things. Are you seeing before and after sauna therapy with some of these after sauna therapy with some of these after sauna therapy with some of these newer broader environmental toxicant newer broader environmental toxicant newer broader environmental toxicant tests? So we haven't done and that's a tests? So we haven't done and that's a tests? So we haven't done and that's a great you just put a great idea in my great you just put a great idea in my great you just put a great idea in my head. So thank you for that. We haven't head. So thank you for that. We haven't head. So thank you for that. We haven't done a lot of that type of partnering. done a lot of that type of partnering. done a lot of that type of partnering. We're we're starting to partner with We're we're starting to partner with We're we're starting to partner with more of those types of companies which more of those types of companies which more of those types of companies which I'm super excited about. You know, some I'm super excited about. You know, some I'm super excited about. You know, some of the biomarker companies and but the of the biomarker companies and but the of the biomarker companies and but the that's an opportunity is to to test pre that's an opportunity is to to test pre that's an opportunity is to to test pre and post. A lot of our listeners and my and post. A lot of our listeners and my and post. A lot of our listeners and my own health journey included a own health journey included a own health journey included a significant mold and micotoxin significant mold and micotoxin significant mold and micotoxin component. One of the things that I've component. One of the things that I've component. One of the things that I've seen bright practitioners do over the seen bright practitioners do over the seen bright practitioners do over the past many years is use sauna prior to past many years is use sauna prior to past many years is use sauna prior to the collection of the urine for a urine the collection of the urine for a urine the collection of the urine for a urine micotoxin test so that we minimize false micotoxin test so that we minimize false micotoxin test so that we minimize false negatives and help move as much of that

52:00negatives and help move as much of that negatives and help move as much of that micotoxin burden out of the cells micotoxin burden out of the cells micotoxin burden out of the cells ultimately into the urine and out of the ultimately into the urine and out of the ultimately into the urine and out of the body. So wondering what you see and hear body. So wondering what you see and hear body. So wondering what you see and hear from people dealing with mold or from people dealing with mold or from people dealing with mold or micotoxin illness and how infrared sauna micotoxin illness and how infrared sauna micotoxin illness and how infrared sauna comes into that conversation. Yeah. So comes into that conversation. Yeah. So comes into that conversation. Yeah. So that's a great idea. So I've never heard that's a great idea. So I've never heard that's a great idea. So I've never heard that specific example, but I love love that specific example, but I love love that specific example, but I love love that you shared that. We when we started that you shared that. We when we started that you shared that. We when we started the company the company the company mold mold mold line kids with autism. I mean we had line kids with autism. I mean we had line kids with autism. I mean we had like this these groups these communities like this these groups these communities like this these groups these communities that I just became so closely connected that I just became so closely connected that I just became so closely connected to because to because to because our product was helping them. And I mean our product was helping them. And I mean our product was helping them. And I mean they go from being debilitated because they go from being debilitated because they go from being debilitated because of mold toxicity and being so so of mold toxicity and being so so of mold toxicity and being so so sensitive, right? like so sensitive like sensitive, right? like so sensitive like sensitive, right? like so sensitive like you couldn't even walk in a place and you couldn't even walk in a place and you couldn't even walk in a place and like like oh my god there's mold in like like oh my god there's mold in like like oh my god there's mold in there like that's that's just amazing there like that's that's just amazing there like that's that's just amazing that you know the bodies you know get

53:00that you know the bodies you know get that you know the bodies you know get into this place where they're that into this place where they're that into this place where they're that sensitive and we have to we have to find sensitive and we have to we have to find sensitive and we have to we have to find ways and do things that we know help to ways and do things that we know help to ways and do things that we know help to remove you know th those toxicants and remove you know th those toxicants and remove you know th those toxicants and and infrared is a way to do that and and and infrared is a way to do that and and and infrared is a way to do that and and to do it safely and you know and to do it safely and you know and to do it safely and you know and consistent and and and and just get your consistent and and and and just get your consistent and and and and just get your body back to body back to body back to the place where it's healthy and give the place where it's healthy and give the place where it's healthy and give you more energy and give you the body you more energy and give you the body you more energy and give you the body that you know you know that you have in that you know you know that you have in that you know you know that you have in there somewhere. It just, you know, it's there somewhere. It just, you know, it's there somewhere. It just, you know, it's stuck right now with all this this this stuck right now with all this this this stuck right now with all this this this exposure to things that that you can't exposure to things that that you can't exposure to things that that you can't get out of your body. And we definitely get out of your body. And we definitely get out of your body. And we definitely have helped. We've helped not only just, have helped. We've helped not only just, have helped. We've helped not only just, you know, regular people, but we've you know, regular people, but we've you know, regular people, but we've helped a lot of people in the wellness helped a lot of people in the wellness helped a lot of people in the wellness field today that came to us because they field today that came to us because they field today that came to us because they had mold or they had different had mold or they had different had mold or they had different conditions and they needed it fast conditions and they needed it fast conditions and they needed it fast because they are the advisor, right? The because they are the advisor, right? The because they are the advisor, right? The thought leaders and the influencer and thought leaders and the influencer and thought leaders and the influencer and the person that's helping other people the person that's helping other people the person that's helping other people who are sick. And so we were able to get

54:00who are sick. And so we were able to get who are sick. And so we were able to get them back on their feet. The Solo is a them back on their feet. The Solo is a them back on their feet. The Solo is a great a great product for people that great a great product for people that great a great product for people that are going through this community that are going through this community that are going through this community that we're talking about with mold because we're talking about with mold because we're talking about with mold because it's a lie down model and your head is it's a lie down model and your head is it's a lie down model and your head is out and that's always the model that I out and that's always the model that I out and that's always the model that I would tell people that were in that would tell people that were in that would tell people that were in that situation. I'm like just get the solo situation. I'm like just get the solo situation. I'm like just get the solo that's far infrared and get in there, that's far infrared and get in there, that's far infrared and get in there, start slow. that's nice about the solo start slow. that's nice about the solo start slow. that's nice about the solo is there's the different levels on it is there's the different levels on it is there's the different levels on it that are already kind of pre-programmed that are already kind of pre-programmed that are already kind of pre-programmed and so you can just like press a button and so you can just like press a button and so you can just like press a button and go in and it's just it's it's and go in and it's just it's it's and go in and it's just it's it's transformative for sure. Yeah. And I transformative for sure. Yeah. And I transformative for sure. Yeah. And I think sometimes when we're in a home think sometimes when we're in a home think sometimes when we're in a home that has a mold issue then we always that has a mold issue then we always that has a mold issue then we always have the challenge of what personal have the challenge of what personal have the challenge of what personal belongings can we bring or do we have to belongings can we bring or do we have to belongings can we bring or do we have to get rid of? And so having to deal with get rid of? And so having to deal with get rid of? And so having to deal with the bigger sauna versus I think if I the bigger sauna versus I think if I the bigger sauna versus I think if I remember correctly, the Solo for the remember correctly, the Solo for the remember correctly, the Solo for the most part probably could be cleaned most part probably could be cleaned most part probably could be cleaned pretty well in that situation. So you pretty well in that situation. So you pretty well in that situation. So you wouldn't necessarily have to get rid of wouldn't necessarily have to get rid of wouldn't necessarily have to get rid of it when you were moving to a different it when you were moving to a different it when you were moving to a different space. Correct me if I'm wrong on that. space. Correct me if I'm wrong on that. space. Correct me if I'm wrong on that. Yes, that's correct. So much of the Yes, that's correct. So much of the Yes, that's correct. So much of the conversation today around environmental

55:00conversation today around environmental conversation today around environmental toxicants is on forever chemicals like toxicants is on forever chemicals like toxicants is on forever chemicals like POS. There's a lot of conversation now POS. There's a lot of conversation now POS. There's a lot of conversation now on microlastics and nanoplastics and how on microlastics and nanoplastics and how on microlastics and nanoplastics and how we consume a credit card size amount of we consume a credit card size amount of we consume a credit card size amount of plastic every week. Do we know if plastic every week. Do we know if plastic every week. Do we know if infrared sauna has a role in helping to infrared sauna has a role in helping to infrared sauna has a role in helping to unbburden the body from those types of unbburden the body from those types of unbburden the body from those types of toxicants? Yeah, there's more research toxicants? Yeah, there's more research toxicants? Yeah, there's more research that needs to be done there. And I know that needs to be done there. And I know that needs to be done there. And I know that that visual is just I just like that that visual is just I just like that that visual is just I just like want to scream every time I hear that want to scream every time I hear that want to scream every time I hear that because it's so scary and it and man I'm because it's so scary and it and man I'm because it's so scary and it and man I'm so I mean I'm like such a glass girl and so I mean I'm like such a glass girl and so I mean I'm like such a glass girl and like I'm so sensitive to the whole like I'm so sensitive to the whole like I'm so sensitive to the whole plastics. So more research needs to be plastics. So more research needs to be plastics. So more research needs to be done to answer your question directly. done to answer your question directly. done to answer your question directly. However, However, However, I will say I will say I will say the way that you feel after you have a the way that you feel after you have a the way that you feel after you have a sunlightened session, everybody says sunlightened session, everybody says sunlightened session, everybody says they feel lighter. they feel lighter. they feel lighter. And so there, you know, while I don't

56:00And so there, you know, while I don't And so there, you know, while I don't know the answer and I don't have the know the answer and I don't have the know the answer and I don't have the data to support, you know, your question data to support, you know, your question data to support, you know, your question for sure, but I do know that the the for sure, but I do know that the the for sure, but I do know that the the energy and the levity and just the way energy and the levity and just the way energy and the levity and just the way that you feel when you're done, I think that you feel when you're done, I think that you feel when you're done, I think more is happening inside than we even more is happening inside than we even more is happening inside than we even know in a in a positive way. Um, so I know in a in a positive way. Um, so I know in a in a positive way. Um, so I would encourage somebody to, you know, would encourage somebody to, you know, would encourage somebody to, you know, to try it out and you don't have to to try it out and you don't have to to try it out and you don't have to necessarily get one for your home if you necessarily get one for your home if you necessarily get one for your home if you can go places and try them. You know, can go places and try them. You know, can go places and try them. You know, make sure it's a sunlight so that you make sure it's a sunlight so that you make sure it's a sunlight so that you don't have that experience of people don't have that experience of people don't have that experience of people with massella who said they went and with massella who said they went and with massella who said they went and they went to a different brand and they went to a different brand and they went to a different brand and almost gave up on infrared. I'm so glad almost gave up on infrared. I'm so glad almost gave up on infrared. I'm so glad that that they didn't. So, one of the that that they didn't. So, one of the that that they didn't. So, one of the things that I commonly hear is the things that I commonly hear is the things that I commonly hear is the importance of showering after doing a importance of showering after doing a importance of showering after doing a sauna session. So, we don't want to sauna session. So, we don't want to sauna session. So, we don't want to reabsorb the things that were liberated reabsorb the things that were liberated reabsorb the things that were liberated that came out in the sweat that are that came out in the sweat that are that came out in the sweat that are still somewhat on our skin. So, should

57:00still somewhat on our skin. So, should still somewhat on our skin. So, should we be showering immediately after? we be showering immediately after? we be showering immediately after? Should we use cold water to close the Should we use cold water to close the Should we use cold water to close the pores? And what if someone's doing it at pores? And what if someone's doing it at pores? And what if someone's doing it at a location where they can't shower? They a location where they can't shower? They a location where they can't shower? They have to drive home and by then all the have to drive home and by then all the have to drive home and by then all the sweat has kind of dried up. Maybe sweat has kind of dried up. Maybe sweat has kind of dried up. Maybe they've reabsorbed some of what they had they've reabsorbed some of what they had they've reabsorbed some of what they had excreted. Should we then be doing wet excreted. Should we then be doing wet excreted. Should we then be doing wet towel wiping before kind of heading towel wiping before kind of heading towel wiping before kind of heading home? What are your thoughts about the home? What are your thoughts about the home? What are your thoughts about the post sauna process? Yeah, post sauna post sauna process? Yeah, post sauna post sauna process? Yeah, post sauna process. I would do exactly what you process. I would do exactly what you process. I would do exactly what you just said is to, you know, get, you just said is to, you know, get, you just said is to, you know, get, you know, take a wet towel if you if you know, take a wet towel if you if you know, take a wet towel if you if you can't shower. If you can shower, then can't shower. If you can shower, then can't shower. If you can shower, then then rinse off for sure. And warm water then rinse off for sure. And warm water then rinse off for sure. And warm water is fine to shower with. I mean cool is fine to shower with. I mean cool is fine to shower with. I mean cool water that's going to go and you know water that's going to go and you know water that's going to go and you know provide a little bit more stress to the provide a little bit more stress to the provide a little bit more stress to the body which is not a bad thing. It's a body which is not a bad thing. It's a body which is not a bad thing. It's a good thing you know. So if you want to good thing you know. So if you want to good thing you know. So if you want to go that direction you can you can go go that direction you can you can go go that direction you can you can go that direction as well. That's more of that direction as well. That's more of that direction as well. That's more of like a personal preference. Um, and a

58:00like a personal preference. Um, and a like a personal preference. Um, and a lot of people really like to have that lot of people really like to have that lot of people really like to have that keep keep the stressor because you know keep keep the stressor because you know keep keep the stressor because you know you just had the stress inside the you just had the stress inside the you just had the stress inside the sauna, right? Like the infrared sauna, right? Like the infrared sauna, right? Like the infrared activates your your heat shock proteins. activates your your heat shock proteins. activates your your heat shock proteins. It gives you the stressor that helps It gives you the stressor that helps It gives you the stressor that helps make your body stronger and it's really make your body stronger and it's really make your body stronger and it's really great for the other proteins in your great for the other proteins in your great for the other proteins in your body. And then if you get out and shower body. And then if you get out and shower body. And then if you get out and shower and you shock your body again with the and you shock your body again with the and you shock your body again with the the cold, that is also just a good way the cold, that is also just a good way the cold, that is also just a good way to keep keep the healing going. We know to keep keep the healing going. We know to keep keep the healing going. We know that a lot of these toxins are fat that a lot of these toxins are fat that a lot of these toxins are fat soluble that they tend to be in our soluble that they tend to be in our soluble that they tend to be in our atapost tissue. When you do a sauna, atapost tissue. When you do a sauna, atapost tissue. When you do a sauna, sometimes you can feel a little slimy or sometimes you can feel a little slimy or sometimes you can feel a little slimy or greasy. So like is water enough or greasy. So like is water enough or greasy. So like is water enough or should we be using something else to try should we be using something else to try should we be using something else to try to get that residue off of our skin? Oh, to get that residue off of our skin? Oh, to get that residue off of our skin? Oh, that's a great question. And yeah, your that's a great question. And yeah, your that's a great question. And yeah, your sweat consistency. That was one of the sweat consistency. That was one of the sweat consistency. That was one of the first things I noticed when I was first things I noticed when I was first things I noticed when I was learning about this technology. I was learning about this technology. I was learning about this technology. I was like, gosh, like the the viscosity and

59:00like, gosh, like the the viscosity and like, gosh, like the the viscosity and the texture of my sweat is different the texture of my sweat is different the texture of my sweat is different than if I go for a run. It's a than if I go for a run. It's a than if I go for a run. It's a completely different sweat. So, I completely different sweat. So, I completely different sweat. So, I always, you know, and I've worked with a always, you know, and I've worked with a always, you know, and I've worked with a lot of physicians over the years, and I' lot of physicians over the years, and I' lot of physicians over the years, and I' I have not had anybody haven't asked I have not had anybody haven't asked I have not had anybody haven't asked them that question, but that's something them that question, but that's something them that question, but that's something I am going to ask. Um, but I've never I am going to ask. Um, but I've never I am going to ask. Um, but I've never had anybody tell me to, you know, have had anybody tell me to, you know, have had anybody tell me to, you know, have somebody rinse off with something other somebody rinse off with something other somebody rinse off with something other than than just a regular shower. So, you than than just a regular shower. So, you than than just a regular shower. So, you mentioned heat shock proteins. That's a mentioned heat shock proteins. That's a mentioned heat shock proteins. That's a great segue. So, what are they? When are great segue. So, what are they? When are great segue. So, what are they? When are they created? Is it temperature driven? they created? Is it temperature driven? they created? Is it temperature driven? Is it duration of sauna session driven? Is it duration of sauna session driven? Is it duration of sauna session driven? What is the temperature that maybe is What is the temperature that maybe is What is the temperature that maybe is required for us to create those heat required for us to create those heat required for us to create those heat shock proteins? And then what are the shock proteins? And then what are the shock proteins? And then what are the benefits of heat shock proteins when benefits of heat shock proteins when benefits of heat shock proteins when we're thinking about optimizing health? we're thinking about optimizing health? we're thinking about optimizing health? Yeah. So heat shock proteins, there are Yeah. So heat shock proteins, there are Yeah. So heat shock proteins, there are protective molecules that the body makes protective molecules that the body makes protective molecules that the body makes in order to respond to some type of in order to respond to some type of in order to respond to some type of stress. Stress meaning that the stress. Stress meaning that the stress. Stress meaning that the temperature changes. Your body is temperature changes. Your body is temperature changes. Your body is responding to that. And I call them, you

1:00responding to that. And I call them, you responding to that. And I call them, you know, personal trainers for the cells. know, personal trainers for the cells. know, personal trainers for the cells. And I call them personal trainer for the And I call them personal trainer for the And I call them personal trainer for the cells because they help other proteins cells because they help other proteins cells because they help other proteins that are damaged. They help repair them. that are damaged. They help repair them. that are damaged. They help repair them. They protect your body. They improve the They protect your body. They improve the They protect your body. They improve the resilience in your body. That it's the resilience in your body. That it's the resilience in your body. That it's the it's the entire philosophy of what it's the entire philosophy of what it's the entire philosophy of what doesn't kill you makes you stronger, you doesn't kill you makes you stronger, you doesn't kill you makes you stronger, you know. So, this is a good you asked a know. So, this is a good you asked a know. So, this is a good you asked a question earlier that I loved so much. question earlier that I loved so much. question earlier that I loved so much. It's like when do you know when do you It's like when do you know when do you It's like when do you know when do you when is stress good and when is stress, when is stress good and when is stress, when is stress good and when is stress, you know, bad. And that this type of you know, bad. And that this type of you know, bad. And that this type of stress is really good for your body. stress is really good for your body. stress is really good for your body. It's making your body stronger. And you It's making your body stronger. And you It's making your body stronger. And you know, you don't need the data definitely know, you don't need the data definitely know, you don't need the data definitely says that extreme is not needed. So you says that extreme is not needed. So you says that extreme is not needed. So you do not need high levels of heat, just a do not need high levels of heat, just a do not need high levels of heat, just a little bit that that changes. It's the little bit that that changes. It's the little bit that that changes. It's the change, right? It's changing from being change, right? It's changing from being change, right? It's changing from being in a 70 degree environment, you know, to in a 70 degree environment, you know, to in a 70 degree environment, you know, to like receiving this light and heat like receiving this light and heat like receiving this light and heat energy into the body that the body's energy into the body that the body's energy into the body that the body's like, "Oh, wow. This is different, you like, "Oh, wow. This is different, you like, "Oh, wow. This is different, you know, alter I'm altering myself. I'm

1:01know, alter I'm altering myself. I'm know, alter I'm altering myself. I'm stressed, but that stress is making me stressed, but that stress is making me stressed, but that stress is making me stronger." Many of us are also taking stronger." Many of us are also taking stronger." Many of us are also taking pretty large supplement protocols. We pretty large supplement protocols. We pretty large supplement protocols. We talked about how circulation can talked about how circulation can talked about how circulation can increase when we're doing sauna therapy. increase when we're doing sauna therapy. increase when we're doing sauna therapy. So, I'm just wondering if that increase So, I'm just wondering if that increase So, I'm just wondering if that increase in circulation, that increase in in circulation, that increase in in circulation, that increase in fluidity, as you talked about, maybe a fluidity, as you talked about, maybe a fluidity, as you talked about, maybe a decrease in stagnation, if that might decrease in stagnation, if that might decrease in stagnation, if that might also kind of synergize the other things also kind of synergize the other things also kind of synergize the other things that we're doing and taking because that we're doing and taking because that we're doing and taking because they're better able then to get deeper they're better able then to get deeper they're better able then to get deeper into the body. into the body. into the body. Wow, that's a great question, Scott. One Wow, that's a great question, Scott. One Wow, that's a great question, Scott. One I don't know the answer to. I can I don't know the answer to. I can I don't know the answer to. I can theorize exactly what you just said, but theorize exactly what you just said, but theorize exactly what you just said, but I I mean I love the question and I love I I mean I love the question and I love I I mean I love the question and I love the thought process. I just don't know the thought process. I just don't know the thought process. I just don't know for sure. I don't I don't have the data for sure. I don't I don't have the data for sure. I don't I don't have the data to support that it would do that. My to support that it would do that. My to support that it would do that. My goal for myself is always to take as few goal for myself is always to take as few goal for myself is always to take as few things as possible. So, I know that things as possible. So, I know that things as possible. So, I know that doesn't it's not possible for most, you

1:02doesn't it's not possible for most, you doesn't it's not possible for most, you know, most people listening because know, most people listening because know, most people listening because they're they're having to, you know, they're they're having to, you know, they're they're having to, you know, work on ways to supplement and to, you work on ways to supplement and to, you work on ways to supplement and to, you know, help the body get healthier. So, know, help the body get healthier. So, know, help the body get healthier. So, I'm going to have to say I just don't I'm going to have to say I just don't I'm going to have to say I just don't know. So, let's talk now about some of know. So, let's talk now about some of know. So, let's talk now about some of the key markers of aging. What are they? the key markers of aging. What are they? the key markers of aging. What are they? How does sonotherapy help support How does sonotherapy help support How does sonotherapy help support healthy aging? And then wondering if healthy aging? And then wondering if healthy aging? And then wondering if you've done any before and after testing you've done any before and after testing you've done any before and after testing that showed reductions in biological that showed reductions in biological that showed reductions in biological age. So, the key markers of aging, age. So, the key markers of aging, age. So, the key markers of aging, Michael Hamlin is the one that Dr. Dr. Michael Hamlin is the one that Dr. Dr. Michael Hamlin is the one that Dr. Dr. Hamlin helped us identify Hamlin helped us identify Hamlin helped us identify how infrared can impact them. So start how infrared can impact them. So start how infrared can impact them. So start with mitochondria and so infrared both with mitochondria and so infrared both with mitochondria and so infrared both this is one that's really special this is one that's really special this is one that's really special because infrared far infrared as well as because infrared far infrared as well as because infrared far infrared as well as mid infrared as well as near and well as mid infrared as well as near and well as mid infrared as well as near and well as red all of them red all of them red all of them activate the mitochondria and really

1:03activate the mitochondria and really activate the mitochondria and really help produce more ATP. help produce more ATP. help produce more ATP. So it's super super important on your So it's super super important on your So it's super super important on your body. Your mitochondrial function is body. Your mitochondrial function is body. Your mitochondrial function is like the one of the number one things as like the one of the number one things as like the one of the number one things as as you age. If if it starts to be as you age. If if it starts to be as you age. If if it starts to be dysfunctional, then it's going to dysfunctional, then it's going to dysfunctional, then it's going to definitely speed up the aging process. definitely speed up the aging process. definitely speed up the aging process. The next one would be cellular cellular The next one would be cellular cellular The next one would be cellular cellular scinessence. Those are just cells that scinessence. Those are just cells that scinessence. Those are just cells that that that die off, but they don't leave. that that die off, but they don't leave. that that die off, but they don't leave. We call them zombie cells. Infrared, We call them zombie cells. Infrared, We call them zombie cells. Infrared, what we call like the zombie slayer. I what we call like the zombie slayer. I what we call like the zombie slayer. I like to think of infrared in this like to think of infrared in this like to think of infrared in this category as the the energy that removes category as the the energy that removes category as the the energy that removes the traffic jam. So all those cells are the traffic jam. So all those cells are the traffic jam. So all those cells are stuck and it gets rid of them. stuck and it gets rid of them. stuck and it gets rid of them. Inflammation is another hallmark of a of Inflammation is another hallmark of a of Inflammation is another hallmark of a of of aging. Far infrared specifically of aging. Far infrared specifically of aging. Far infrared specifically activates a gene that controls activates a gene that controls activates a gene that controls inflammation in the body. So it's really inflammation in the body. So it's really inflammation in the body. So it's really important to have that's why far important to have that's why far important to have that's why far infrared is another reason that far infrared is another reason that far infrared is another reason that far infrar is a foundational infrared infrar is a foundational infrared infrar is a foundational infrared wavelength. And then gut dispiosis.

1:04wavelength. And then gut dispiosis. wavelength. And then gut dispiosis. So that's a hallmark of aging and we So that's a hallmark of aging and we So that's a hallmark of aging and we know for sure that infrared can help know for sure that infrared can help know for sure that infrared can help with the gut microbiome. So it's going with the gut microbiome. So it's going with the gut microbiome. So it's going to help your gut be healthier. And then to help your gut be healthier. And then to help your gut be healthier. And then that there's that gut brain. I'm getting that there's that gut brain. I'm getting that there's that gut brain. I'm getting a little bit off tangent, but I'm so a little bit off tangent, but I'm so a little bit off tangent, but I'm so passionate right now about like the gut passionate right now about like the gut passionate right now about like the gut brain connection and how that your gut brain connection and how that your gut brain connection and how that your gut controls, you know, your your your controls, you know, your your your controls, you know, your your your brain. And if you can have a healthy gut brain. And if you can have a healthy gut brain. And if you can have a healthy gut microbiome and you can invest in that microbiome and you can invest in that microbiome and you can invest in that part of your body, you're going to have part of your body, you're going to have part of your body, you're going to have better cognitive function, you're going better cognitive function, you're going better cognitive function, you're going to like boost, you know, your brain to like boost, you know, your brain to like boost, you know, your brain cells, you're going to increase blood cells, you're going to increase blood cells, you're going to increase blood flow to your brain, you're going to flow to your brain, you're going to flow to your brain, you're going to reduce inflammation in the brain. So reduce inflammation in the brain. So reduce inflammation in the brain. So that's really, really important. And that's really, really important. And that's really, really important. And that can all happen with your gut that can all happen with your gut that can all happen with your gut health. And then stem cell vitality. And health. And then stem cell vitality. And health. And then stem cell vitality. And we we know more and more, especially we we know more and more, especially we we know more and more, especially with red light and near infrared, they with red light and near infrared, they with red light and near infrared, they can really help repair your tissues and can really help repair your tissues and can really help repair your tissues and help your stem cells be healthier. So, a

1:05help your stem cells be healthier. So, a help your stem cells be healthier. So, a few follow-up questions then. This is few follow-up questions then. This is few follow-up questions then. This is really an exciting area to talk about. really an exciting area to talk about. really an exciting area to talk about. So, do we know how much sauna impacts So, do we know how much sauna impacts So, do we know how much sauna impacts ATP production in the mitochondria? Is ATP production in the mitochondria? Is ATP production in the mitochondria? Is it increasing the energy currency within it increasing the energy currency within it increasing the energy currency within the mitochondria and thus within our the mitochondria and thus within our the mitochondria and thus within our bodies? And then building on that, many bodies? And then building on that, many bodies? And then building on that, many environmental toxicants negatively environmental toxicants negatively environmental toxicants negatively impact the mitochondria. And we can go impact the mitochondria. And we can go impact the mitochondria. And we can go as far as to say that there are DNA as far as to say that there are DNA as far as to say that there are DNA adducts where we see things like metals adducts where we see things like metals adducts where we see things like metals and micotoxins that are actually and micotoxins that are actually and micotoxins that are actually adducted or attached to our adducted or attached to our adducted or attached to our mitochondria. So if we are unbburdening mitochondria. So if we are unbburdening mitochondria. So if we are unbburdening the mitochondria of all of these the mitochondria of all of these the mitochondria of all of these environmental toxicants, isn't that then environmental toxicants, isn't that then environmental toxicants, isn't that then also going to lead to better also going to lead to better also going to lead to better mitochondrial functioning and more mitochondrial functioning and more mitochondrial functioning and more energy production? So yes, yes and yes energy production? So yes, yes and yes energy production? So yes, yes and yes to everything that you asked. I mean to everything that you asked. I mean to everything that you asked. I mean that the we we know that infrared and that the we we know that infrared and that the we we know that infrared and this is where this it's we're going full

1:06this is where this it's we're going full this is where this it's we're going full circle. This is where when I talked circle. This is where when I talked circle. This is where when I talked about the beginning, you asked about the about the beginning, you asked about the about the beginning, you asked about the parts of the infrared spectrum and is it parts of the infrared spectrum and is it parts of the infrared spectrum and is it ideal or is it is it good to have near ideal or is it is it good to have near ideal or is it is it good to have near infrared and red light with far infrared and red light with far infrared and red light with far infrared. This is the perfect example of infrared. This is the perfect example of infrared. This is the perfect example of efficiency because each part of the efficiency because each part of the efficiency because each part of the infrared spectrum infrared spectrum infrared spectrum impacts ATP production and it increases impacts ATP production and it increases impacts ATP production and it increases cellular energy output. it it helps the cellular energy output. it it helps the cellular energy output. it it helps the entire transport chain, you know, work entire transport chain, you know, work entire transport chain, you know, work more effectively. And as far as more effectively. And as far as more effectively. And as far as percentage-wise, I'm not sure we know percentage-wise, I'm not sure we know percentage-wise, I'm not sure we know the e, you know, exact percentage, but the e, you know, exact percentage, but the e, you know, exact percentage, but this is why it it it I'm finally this is why it it it I'm finally this is why it it it I'm finally understanding understanding understanding all of the feelings I've had over the all of the feelings I've had over the all of the feelings I've had over the years as far as my body because I'm very years as far as my body because I'm very years as far as my body because I'm very very like very aware and very in tune very like very aware and very in tune very like very aware and very in tune with my body and how I feel and what with my body and how I feel and what with my body and how I feel and what impacts it positively, negatively, etc. impacts it positively, negatively, etc. impacts it positively, negatively, etc. And one of the first things I noticed

1:07And one of the first things I noticed And one of the first things I noticed was the change in energy that I was the change in energy that I was the change in energy that I experienced. And now I'm understanding experienced. And now I'm understanding experienced. And now I'm understanding why we have that change because I'm why we have that change because I'm why we have that change because I'm getting this this light energy and you getting this this light energy and you getting this this light energy and you know this this heat energy and this this know this this heat energy and this this know this this heat energy and this this electrical energy that is is activating electrical energy that is is activating electrical energy that is is activating my mitochondria. I mean it's like my mitochondria. I mean it's like my mitochondria. I mean it's like literally like you know what's charging literally like you know what's charging literally like you know what's charging them. This is why I always say infrared them. This is why I always say infrared them. This is why I always say infrared is a supercharging for your cells. that is a supercharging for your cells. that is a supercharging for your cells. that literally supercharges your cells. So, literally supercharges your cells. So, literally supercharges your cells. So, let's talk then a little bit about let's talk then a little bit about let's talk then a little bit about autophagy or cellular cleanup. You autophagy or cellular cleanup. You autophagy or cellular cleanup. You talked about the concept of scinesscent talked about the concept of scinesscent talked about the concept of scinesscent cells or zombie cells which persist in cells or zombie cells which persist in cells or zombie cells which persist in the body and really still are producing the body and really still are producing the body and really still are producing inflammatory mediators and negatively inflammatory mediators and negatively inflammatory mediators and negatively impacting our health. We're now sadly impacting our health. We're now sadly impacting our health. We're now sadly living in the era of COVID. the FLCCCC, living in the era of COVID. the FLCCCC, living in the era of COVID. the FLCCCC, which is now the Independent Medical which is now the Independent Medical which is now the Independent Medical Alliance, I believe they highlighted the Alliance, I believe they highlighted the Alliance, I believe they highlighted the benefits of fasting and intermittent benefits of fasting and intermittent benefits of fasting and intermittent fasting early on as a way to support

1:08fasting early on as a way to support fasting early on as a way to support autophagy to help clear out spike autophagy to help clear out spike autophagy to help clear out spike proteins. So wondering if there are ways proteins. So wondering if there are ways proteins. So wondering if there are ways that we know of to measure what that we know of to measure what that we know of to measure what someone's scessence burden is and what someone's scessence burden is and what someone's scessence burden is and what have you seen in the era of COVID have you seen in the era of COVID have you seen in the era of COVID relative to spike proteins from the lens relative to spike proteins from the lens relative to spike proteins from the lens of sauna therapy and how people with of sauna therapy and how people with of sauna therapy and how people with long COVID might be responding to sauna long COVID might be responding to sauna long COVID might be responding to sauna therapy. So I think that I have I therapy. So I think that I have I therapy. So I think that I have I haven't seen the data on cellular haven't seen the data on cellular haven't seen the data on cellular scinessence to answer that question scinessence to answer that question scinessence to answer that question specifically. I know I've heard a lot of specifically. I know I've heard a lot of specifically. I know I've heard a lot of testimonials with long co with sunlight testimonials with long co with sunlight testimonials with long co with sunlight and sauna. I know I' I've heard a lot of and sauna. I know I' I've heard a lot of and sauna. I know I' I've heard a lot of great stories. As far as data, we don't great stories. As far as data, we don't great stories. As far as data, we don't have any yet. The one thing I will say have any yet. The one thing I will say have any yet. The one thing I will say that when going back to cellular that when going back to cellular that when going back to cellular scinessence scinessence scinessence is that people who frequently is that people who frequently is that people who frequently consistently use infrared always report consistently use infrared always report consistently use infrared always report a reduction in brain fog. And we know a reduction in brain fog. And we know a reduction in brain fog. And we know that sometimes that cellular scinessence

1:09that sometimes that cellular scinessence that sometimes that cellular scinessence can cause brain fog and so those can cause brain fog and so those can cause brain fog and so those cellular cleanup those cells that are cellular cleanup those cells that are cellular cleanup those cells that are just hanging around. And so I don't have just hanging around. And so I don't have just hanging around. And so I don't have a study and I don't have data but I do a study and I don't have data but I do a study and I don't have data but I do know the positive impact when it comes know the positive impact when it comes know the positive impact when it comes to a clear mind and as well as as I to a clear mind and as well as as I to a clear mind and as well as as I talked about earlier we do know that you talked about earlier we do know that you talked about earlier we do know that you know that the infrared can help to boost know that the infrared can help to boost know that the infrared can help to boost BDNF BDNF you know which helps to grow BDNF BDNF you know which helps to grow BDNF BDNF you know which helps to grow back brain cells. So that's getting a back brain cells. So that's getting a back brain cells. So that's getting a little bit off topic, but I I was trying little bit off topic, but I I was trying little bit off topic, but I I was trying to stick to the the data that I do know to stick to the the data that I do know to stick to the the data that I do know and have, you know, versus a steep I and have, you know, versus a steep I and have, you know, versus a steep I don't I just don't know. No, but that's don't I just don't know. No, but that's don't I just don't know. No, but that's amazing. BDNF or brain derived amazing. BDNF or brain derived amazing. BDNF or brain derived neurotrphic factor when we're thinking neurotrphic factor when we're thinking neurotrphic factor when we're thinking about dementia and cognitive decline and about dementia and cognitive decline and about dementia and cognitive decline and Alzheimer's like those are important Alzheimer's like those are important Alzheimer's like those are important things for us to be thinking about. The things for us to be thinking about. The things for us to be thinking about. The third of the five that you talked about third of the five that you talked about third of the five that you talked about was inflammation. So what kind of relief was inflammation. So what kind of relief was inflammation. So what kind of relief are people seeing in terms of are people seeing in terms of are people seeing in terms of inflammation? Is it more muscle pain,

1:10inflammation? Is it more muscle pain, inflammation? Is it more muscle pain, joint pain? Do we see both reduce all joint pain? Do we see both reduce all joint pain? Do we see both reduce all levels of pain? Joint, deep, all body levels of pain? Joint, deep, all body levels of pain? Joint, deep, all body inflammation is one of the fastest and inflammation is one of the fastest and inflammation is one of the fastest and just most reported benefits for with all just most reported benefits for with all just most reported benefits for with all all the different wavelengths far, mid, all the different wavelengths far, mid, all the different wavelengths far, mid, near and and red. And FAR is the one near and and red. And FAR is the one near and and red. And FAR is the one just as a reminder because this is just as a reminder because this is just as a reminder because this is really important back to the foundation. really important back to the foundation. really important back to the foundation. FAR is the one that activates the gene FAR is the one that activates the gene FAR is the one that activates the gene inside your body to help control inside your body to help control inside your body to help control inflammation. One of the things that I inflammation. One of the things that I inflammation. One of the things that I was a little surprised to read about was was a little surprised to read about was was a little surprised to read about was about the gut dispiosis microbiome. So about the gut dispiosis microbiome. So about the gut dispiosis microbiome. So talk to us a little bit about the talk to us a little bit about the talk to us a little bit about the mechanisms through which sauna or mechanisms through which sauna or mechanisms through which sauna or infrared sauna therapy might help gut infrared sauna therapy might help gut infrared sauna therapy might help gut dysfunction. What are the indicators of dysfunction. What are the indicators of dysfunction. What are the indicators of gut health that we think improve with gut health that we think improve with gut health that we think improve with sauna therapy? Yeah. So how it helps is sauna therapy? Yeah. So how it helps is sauna therapy? Yeah. So how it helps is re reducing inflammation and um and

1:11re reducing inflammation and um and re reducing inflammation and um and increasing circulation and detoxifying increasing circulation and detoxifying increasing circulation and detoxifying the body. And so you're going to feel the body. And so you're going to feel the body. And so you're going to feel better and then that impact of feeling better and then that impact of feeling better and then that impact of feeling better is going to help the overall mood better is going to help the overall mood better is going to help the overall mood and enhance enhance the mood. We also and enhance enhance the mood. We also and enhance enhance the mood. We also know that that red light and near know that that red light and near know that that red light and near infrared penetrate and actually help the infrared penetrate and actually help the infrared penetrate and actually help the gut microbiome. So that's really gut microbiome. So that's really gut microbiome. So that's really powerful because if your gut is happy, powerful because if your gut is happy, powerful because if your gut is happy, generally speaking, the rest of your generally speaking, the rest of your generally speaking, the rest of your body follows. Lastly, you talked about body follows. Lastly, you talked about body follows. Lastly, you talked about sauna and its potential to revitalize sauna and its potential to revitalize sauna and its potential to revitalize stem cells, which are really key for stem cells, which are really key for stem cells, which are really key for regenerating or restoring as we age. regenerating or restoring as we age. regenerating or restoring as we age. People pay tremendous amounts of money People pay tremendous amounts of money People pay tremendous amounts of money for stem cell therapy. So talk to us a for stem cell therapy. So talk to us a for stem cell therapy. So talk to us a little bit about how this works with little bit about how this works with little bit about how this works with sauna. Is it increasing the number of sauna. Is it increasing the number of sauna. Is it increasing the number of stem cells that the body is producing? stem cells that the body is producing? stem cells that the body is producing? Is it impacting the release of stem Is it impacting the release of stem Is it impacting the release of stem cells from the bone marrow? And do we

1:12cells from the bone marrow? And do we cells from the bone marrow? And do we know if there's other restorative or know if there's other restorative or know if there's other restorative or regenerative either hormones or growth regenerative either hormones or growth regenerative either hormones or growth factors that also increase in the body factors that also increase in the body factors that also increase in the body when we're using sonaotherapy? Yeah. So when we're using sonaotherapy? Yeah. So when we're using sonaotherapy? Yeah. So all of the above. I mean it really just all of the above. I mean it really just all of the above. I mean it really just overall not only helps to produce more overall not only helps to produce more overall not only helps to produce more but also helps to repair and tissues and but also helps to repair and tissues and but also helps to repair and tissues and regenerate. So overall stem cell regenerate. So overall stem cell regenerate. So overall stem cell vitality is how I like to frame it. So vitality is how I like to frame it. So vitality is how I like to frame it. So coming back to brain health you talked coming back to brain health you talked coming back to brain health you talked about BDNF. We know Alzheimer's disease about BDNF. We know Alzheimer's disease about BDNF. We know Alzheimer's disease is a fear for many. Many have cognitive is a fear for many. Many have cognitive is a fear for many. Many have cognitive decline, dementia. You mentioned even decline, dementia. You mentioned even decline, dementia. You mentioned even brain fog. I think those can all have a brain fog. I think those can all have a brain fog. I think those can all have a toxicity component, an infection toxicity component, an infection toxicity component, an infection component, a mitochondrial component. So component, a mitochondrial component. So component, a mitochondrial component. So many factors that we've already talked many factors that we've already talked many factors that we've already talked about. So what do you see long-term with about. So what do you see long-term with about. So what do you see long-term with people that are using sauna in terms of people that are using sauna in terms of people that are using sauna in terms of their ability to improve or maintain their ability to improve or maintain their ability to improve or maintain their cognitive health over time? People their cognitive health over time? People their cognitive health over time? People are happier and have better moods and

1:13are happier and have better moods and are happier and have better moods and have clearer minds and as a result have have clearer minds and as a result have have clearer minds and as a result have clearer, more creative thoughts and want clearer, more creative thoughts and want clearer, more creative thoughts and want to get back in their sauna because they to get back in their sauna because they to get back in their sauna because they notice such a significant difference and notice such a significant difference and notice such a significant difference and such a mood change which is you know such a mood change which is you know such a mood change which is you know coming from the brain and and that mood coming from the brain and and that mood coming from the brain and and that mood just helps the entire body. And you just helps the entire body. And you just helps the entire body. And you think about when the brain is stressed, think about when the brain is stressed, think about when the brain is stressed, you know, and you're you're not able to you know, and you're you're not able to you know, and you're you're not able to think clear, like it's it's really not think clear, like it's it's really not think clear, like it's it's really not good to make decisions when your brain good to make decisions when your brain good to make decisions when your brain is in that fight orflight stage, right? is in that fight orflight stage, right? is in that fight orflight stage, right? And if you can get that into the And if you can get that into the And if you can get that into the parasympathetic state, which we know for parasympathetic state, which we know for parasympathetic state, which we know for sure the sauna can, then you can think sure the sauna can, then you can think sure the sauna can, then you can think clear and make better decisions and be clear and make better decisions and be clear and make better decisions and be happier. I want to come back to the happier. I want to come back to the happier. I want to come back to the COVID conversation just for a moment. We COVID conversation just for a moment. We COVID conversation just for a moment. We know that endotheliitis know that endotheliitis know that endotheliitis or inflammation of our blood vessels is or inflammation of our blood vessels is or inflammation of our blood vessels is a real issue these days. Maybe one of a real issue these days. Maybe one of a real issue these days. Maybe one of the biggest issues. We see more the biggest issues. We see more the biggest issues. We see more hypercoagulation. We see more people hypercoagulation. We see more people hypercoagulation. We see more people with clotting issues as well. So talk to

1:14with clotting issues as well. So talk to with clotting issues as well. So talk to us a little bit about sauna therapy and us a little bit about sauna therapy and us a little bit about sauna therapy and its impact on our endothelium, our blood its impact on our endothelium, our blood its impact on our endothelium, our blood vessels, our circulation, and maybe even vessels, our circulation, and maybe even vessels, our circulation, and maybe even potentially reducing the potential for potentially reducing the potential for potentially reducing the potential for clotting. Yes. And this is one of the clotting. Yes. And this is one of the clotting. Yes. And this is one of the most studied areas. So if people want to most studied areas. So if people want to most studied areas. So if people want to do some more research on their own, you do some more research on their own, you do some more research on their own, you can in you know research you can enter can in you know research you can enter can in you know research you can enter infrared endothelial health and see the infrared endothelial health and see the infrared endothelial health and see the positive powerful impact that infrared positive powerful impact that infrared positive powerful impact that infrared has on your blood vessels and on the has on your blood vessels and on the has on your blood vessels and on the increased flow. And I just heard Dr. increased flow. And I just heard Dr. increased flow. And I just heard Dr. Gundry talked about how he measures and Gundry talked about how he measures and Gundry talked about how he measures and he can measure blood blood vessel he can measure blood blood vessel he can measure blood blood vessel flexibility and he knows that infrared flexibility and he knows that infrared flexibility and he knows that infrared specifically the all four wavelengths specifically the all four wavelengths specifically the all four wavelengths can increase your your flexibility in can increase your your flexibility in can increase your your flexibility in your blood vessels which is one of his your blood vessels which is one of his your blood vessels which is one of his indicators for as a factor to measure indicators for as a factor to measure indicators for as a factor to measure longevity is you know how how flexible longevity is you know how how flexible longevity is you know how how flexible your blood vessels and infrared can your blood vessels and infrared can your blood vessels and infrared can help. So, do we think about sauna

1:15help. So, do we think about sauna help. So, do we think about sauna therapy as an exercise mimemetic or therapy as an exercise mimemetic or therapy as an exercise mimemetic or mimic? Can we truly passively burn mimic? Can we truly passively burn mimic? Can we truly passively burn calories in a meaningful way? And can calories in a meaningful way? And can calories in a meaningful way? And can sauna therapy be helpful as part of a sauna therapy be helpful as part of a sauna therapy be helpful as part of a wellplanned weight maintenance program? wellplanned weight maintenance program? wellplanned weight maintenance program? And then building on that, what kind of And then building on that, what kind of And then building on that, what kind of cardiovascular exercise do we get in the cardiovascular exercise do we get in the cardiovascular exercise do we get in the sauna? Is it giving our cardiovascular sauna? Is it giving our cardiovascular sauna? Is it giving our cardiovascular system a passive workout? But I know system a passive workout? But I know system a passive workout? But I know when I do sauna, I feel my heart rate when I do sauna, I feel my heart rate when I do sauna, I feel my heart rate kind of going and the circulation moving kind of going and the circulation moving kind of going and the circulation moving better. So talk to us a little bit about better. So talk to us a little bit about better. So talk to us a little bit about both the potential for sauna to support both the potential for sauna to support both the potential for sauna to support weight maintenance as well as the weight maintenance as well as the weight maintenance as well as the cardiovascular component. Yes, cardiovascular component. Yes, cardiovascular component. Yes, cardiovascular is a huge benefit. It is cardiovascular is a huge benefit. It is cardiovascular is a huge benefit. It is an exercise matic for sure. Your heart an exercise matic for sure. Your heart an exercise matic for sure. Your heart rate increases, your blood flow rate increases, your blood flow rate increases, your blood flow increases, the oxygen starts to to flow, increases, the oxygen starts to to flow, increases, the oxygen starts to to flow, and so you feel like you're working out, and so you feel like you're working out, and so you feel like you're working out, but you're just letting the light and but you're just letting the light and but you're just letting the light and energy heal you. We also have a weight energy heal you. We also have a weight energy heal you. We also have a weight loss program in Impulse Sauna. So in the loss program in Impulse Sauna. So in the loss program in Impulse Sauna. So in the Impulse Sauna, there's six different

1:16Impulse Sauna, there's six different Impulse Sauna, there's six different wellness programs that are preset. And wellness programs that are preset. And wellness programs that are preset. And so if you want a weight maintenance, if so if you want a weight maintenance, if so if you want a weight maintenance, if that's one of your goals, then I would that's one of your goals, then I would that's one of your goals, then I would choose the weight loss program when you choose the weight loss program when you choose the weight loss program when you get inside your sauna. Many of our get inside your sauna. Many of our get inside your sauna. Many of our listeners are dealing with Lyme disease listeners are dealing with Lyme disease listeners are dealing with Lyme disease with other bacteria like bartinella, with other bacteria like bartinella, with other bacteria like bartinella, many viruses, parasites like babesia and many viruses, parasites like babesia and many viruses, parasites like babesia and others, fungal colonization, yeast, even others, fungal colonization, yeast, even others, fungal colonization, yeast, even environmental exposures. Some people environmental exposures. Some people environmental exposures. Some people that have chronic infections feel that have chronic infections feel that have chronic infections feel tremendously better when they get tremendously better when they get tremendously better when they get something acute that triggers a fever something acute that triggers a fever something acute that triggers a fever response. In fact, sometimes all of response. In fact, sometimes all of response. In fact, sometimes all of their symptoms go away while they have their symptoms go away while they have their symptoms go away while they have this acute condition. So how might sauna this acute condition. So how might sauna this acute condition. So how might sauna help from a perspective of acting as help from a perspective of acting as help from a perspective of acting as kind of a hyperothermia kind of a hyperothermia kind of a hyperothermia effect? And then are there certain types effect? And then are there certain types effect? And then are there certain types of infections where sauna is known to be of infections where sauna is known to be of infections where sauna is known to be more effective in supporting the body more effective in supporting the body more effective in supporting the body than others? than others? than others? So the sauna is so effective in these So the sauna is so effective in these So the sauna is so effective in these types of conditions because of that

1:17types of conditions because of that types of conditions because of that increase in core temperature and increase in core temperature and increase in core temperature and essentially creating a false fever. you essentially creating a false fever. you essentially creating a false fever. you know for sure in 30 minutes you can know for sure in 30 minutes you can know for sure in 30 minutes you can increase the core temperature up to 3° increase the core temperature up to 3° increase the core temperature up to 3° and so that doing that consistently and and so that doing that consistently and and so that doing that consistently and again it goes back to consistency I again it goes back to consistency I again it goes back to consistency I can't stress that enough so consistency can't stress that enough so consistency can't stress that enough so consistency is super super important and then while is super super important and then while is super super important and then while your body is fighting to cool itself your body is fighting to cool itself your body is fighting to cool itself down I mean that you're just you're down I mean that you're just you're down I mean that you're just you're being able to make your body stronger being able to make your body stronger being able to make your body stronger and you're getting your body regulated and you're getting your body regulated and you're getting your body regulated and I make it reminds me of way back in and I make it reminds me of way back in and I make it reminds me of way back in the day I think actually when you and I the day I think actually when you and I the day I think actually when you and I met we were working with Dr. Kingheart met we were working with Dr. Kingheart met we were working with Dr. Kingheart and developing protocols and and they and developing protocols and and they and developing protocols and and they use you know the sunlight and sauna in use you know the sunlight and sauna in use you know the sunlight and sauna in their Lyme disease protocol. Chronic their Lyme disease protocol. Chronic their Lyme disease protocol. Chronic infections are certainly an issue for infections are certainly an issue for infections are certainly an issue for many people but supporting the immune many people but supporting the immune many people but supporting the immune system and modulating the immune system system and modulating the immune system system and modulating the immune system is equally important. It's not from my is equally important. It's not from my is equally important. It's not from my perspective not about killing something. perspective not about killing something. perspective not about killing something. Sometimes it is about getting the immune Sometimes it is about getting the immune Sometimes it is about getting the immune system to be more tolerant to be more in

1:18system to be more tolerant to be more in system to be more tolerant to be more in integration with our microbiome. So integration with our microbiome. So integration with our microbiome. So wondering if sauna helps to support the wondering if sauna helps to support the wondering if sauna helps to support the immune system. Do we need to be immune system. Do we need to be immune system. Do we need to be concerned at all in people with concerned at all in people with concerned at all in people with autoimmune conditions or hypervigilant autoimmune conditions or hypervigilant autoimmune conditions or hypervigilant immune responses in terms of using immune responses in terms of using immune responses in terms of using sonaotherapy? And is there any data to sonaotherapy? And is there any data to sonaotherapy? And is there any data to suggest that sauna therapy can slow suggest that sauna therapy can slow suggest that sauna therapy can slow immune scinessence or slow thymic immune scinessence or slow thymic immune scinessence or slow thymic involution as we age? I think the most involution as we age? I think the most involution as we age? I think the most important thing to mention here is we do important thing to mention here is we do important thing to mention here is we do know how much that infrared can help know how much that infrared can help know how much that infrared can help support your our our immune function for support your our our immune function for support your our our immune function for sure. Dr. Cole does a great talk on this sure. Dr. Cole does a great talk on this sure. Dr. Cole does a great talk on this about just how how infrared energy makes about just how how infrared energy makes about just how how infrared energy makes the body stronger and it it activates the body stronger and it it activates the body stronger and it it activates the heat shock proteins that we talked the heat shock proteins that we talked the heat shock proteins that we talked about which help to strengthen the body, about which help to strengthen the body, about which help to strengthen the body, help to rebuild the proteins, helps to help to rebuild the proteins, helps to help to rebuild the proteins, helps to increase circulation and helps to you increase circulation and helps to you increase circulation and helps to you know encourage detox. All of which will

1:19know encourage detox. All of which will know encourage detox. All of which will help to make the immune system stronger. help to make the immune system stronger. help to make the immune system stronger. If we think about depression or anxiety, If we think about depression or anxiety, If we think about depression or anxiety, which you mentioned earlier, I tend to which you mentioned earlier, I tend to which you mentioned earlier, I tend to think of those often as think of those often as think of those often as neuroinflammatory neuroinflammatory neuroinflammatory conditions and thinking about infections conditions and thinking about infections conditions and thinking about infections or toxins that drive neuroinflammation or toxins that drive neuroinflammation or toxins that drive neuroinflammation leading to depression or anxiety in some leading to depression or anxiety in some leading to depression or anxiety in some people. So, how often are we seeing people. So, how often are we seeing people. So, how often are we seeing sauna therapy being beneficial in that sauna therapy being beneficial in that sauna therapy being beneficial in that mental, emotional, mental, emotional, mental, emotional, depression, anxiety realm? Is it depression, anxiety realm? Is it depression, anxiety realm? Is it commonly helpful for people? It's commonly helpful for people? It's commonly helpful for people? It's commonly helpful and it's one of the commonly helpful and it's one of the commonly helpful and it's one of the areas that I'm most passionate about areas that I'm most passionate about areas that I'm most passionate about because it really, really helps people. because it really, really helps people. because it really, really helps people. If you can help boost people's mood, you If you can help boost people's mood, you If you can help boost people's mood, you can significantly change their life. can significantly change their life. can significantly change their life. Sleep is critical to recovering from any Sleep is critical to recovering from any Sleep is critical to recovering from any chronic health condition or even chronic health condition or even chronic health condition or even avoiding one in the future. So, I wanted avoiding one in the future. So, I wanted avoiding one in the future. So, I wanted to talk a little bit about how Sauna to talk a little bit about how Sauna to talk a little bit about how Sauna supports sleep, what you hear from supports sleep, what you hear from supports sleep, what you hear from users. Are you seeing reports of sleep users. Are you seeing reports of sleep

1:20users. Are you seeing reports of sleep improvement when we're measuring with improvement when we're measuring with improvement when we're measuring with things like an Aura ring? And do we see things like an Aura ring? And do we see things like an Aura ring? And do we see changes in either duration of REM sleep changes in either duration of REM sleep changes in either duration of REM sleep or deep sleep or maybe even heart rate or deep sleep or maybe even heart rate or deep sleep or maybe even heart rate variability? Yes, to all the above. variability? Yes, to all the above. variability? Yes, to all the above. That's a great question. And I just read That's a great question. And I just read That's a great question. And I just read an article yesterday from somebody who an article yesterday from somebody who an article yesterday from somebody who posted a doctor that uh that studied or posted a doctor that uh that studied or posted a doctor that uh that studied or is a professor at Indiana University is a professor at Indiana University is a professor at Indiana University School of Medicine. And this doctor was School of Medicine. And this doctor was School of Medicine. And this doctor was talking about how that they kept hearing talking about how that they kept hearing talking about how that they kept hearing a lot about infrared and they say they a lot about infrared and they say they a lot about infrared and they say they wanted to do their own research. And the wanted to do their own research. And the wanted to do their own research. And the number one thing that they said that number one thing that they said that number one thing that they said that they experienced was not only the they experienced was not only the they experienced was not only the experience during how great they felt, experience during how great they felt, experience during how great they felt, but that night's sleep was the best but that night's sleep was the best but that night's sleep was the best night's sleep that they had had in a night's sleep that they had had in a night's sleep that they had had in a very long time. And so we we get people very long time. And so we we get people very long time. And so we we get people sending us their Aura Ring results. We sending us their Aura Ring results. We sending us their Aura Ring results. We get people sending us the Garmin get people sending us the Garmin get people sending us the Garmin results. We have a lot of athletes that results. We have a lot of athletes that results. We have a lot of athletes that said this is a gamecher for them. We said this is a gamecher for them. We said this is a gamecher for them. We know for sure it helps put you back in

1:21know for sure it helps put you back in know for sure it helps put you back in the circadian rhythm and also helps the circadian rhythm and also helps the circadian rhythm and also helps control your hormones. So there's control your hormones. So there's control your hormones. So there's significant impact with sleep for sure. significant impact with sleep for sure. significant impact with sleep for sure. Now I want to come back to the water Now I want to come back to the water Now I want to come back to the water conversation or hydration conversation. conversation or hydration conversation. conversation or hydration conversation. Gerald Pollock has talked about easy Gerald Pollock has talked about easy Gerald Pollock has talked about easy water exclusion zone water or gelike water exclusion zone water or gelike water exclusion zone water or gelike water. I've historically heard that we water. I've historically heard that we water. I've historically heard that we can create easy water in the body with can create easy water in the body with can create easy water in the body with infrared. So wondering if that in fact infrared. So wondering if that in fact infrared. So wondering if that in fact is true. And then what are the benefits is true. And then what are the benefits is true. And then what are the benefits of creating more easy water? Does of creating more easy water? Does of creating more easy water? Does infrared also potentially structure infrared also potentially structure infrared also potentially structure water? So as far as does infrared do water? So as far as does infrared do water? So as far as does infrared do exactly what you just said as far as exactly what you just said as far as exactly what you just said as far as changing the structure of the water? changing the structure of the water? changing the structure of the water? Yes, we know that for sure. We know that Yes, we know that for sure. We know that Yes, we know that for sure. We know that both infrared light and heat can, you both infrared light and heat can, you both infrared light and heat can, you know, create um easy water. And it's a know, create um easy water. And it's a know, create um easy water. And it's a it's a it's a great way, my visual of it's a it's a great way, my visual of it's a it's a great way, my visual of this is that if you could create a way this is that if you could create a way this is that if you could create a way to have additional energy and additional

1:22to have additional energy and additional to have additional energy and additional battery life in your body, you so that battery life in your body, you so that battery life in your body, you so that you just it you never power it off, you you just it you never power it off, you you just it you never power it off, you know? So like your cell phone and know? So like your cell phone and know? So like your cell phone and different things that that's what this different things that that's what this different things that that's what this does. that's is that is you're creating does. that's is that is you're creating does. that's is that is you're creating a you're supercharging your energy so a you're supercharging your energy so a you're supercharging your energy so that you're extending your battery in that you're extending your battery in that you're extending your battery in your body. In our last several minutes your body. In our last several minutes your body. In our last several minutes together, I want to talk more together, I want to talk more together, I want to talk more specifically about some of the specifically about some of the specifically about some of the Sunlighten products. So, you have, as I Sunlighten products. So, you have, as I Sunlighten products. So, you have, as I understand, a few different lines at understand, a few different lines at understand, a few different lines at this point. You have the impulse that this point. You have the impulse that this point. You have the impulse that you've mentioned a few times. You have you've mentioned a few times. You have you've mentioned a few times. You have the Amplify, also the Signature products the Amplify, also the Signature products the Amplify, also the Signature products as well. And then you mentioned the as well. And then you mentioned the as well. And then you mentioned the Solo. So I believe the solo and Solo. So I believe the solo and Solo. So I believe the solo and signature are far infrared. The amplify signature are far infrared. The amplify signature are far infrared. The amplify I believe is far infrared and full I believe is far infrared and full I believe is far infrared and full infrared. And then the impulse is the infrared. And then the impulse is the infrared. And then the impulse is the one that you mentioned that was really one that you mentioned that was really one that you mentioned that was really unique with the far infrared mid and unique with the far infrared mid and unique with the far infrared mid and near infrared as well as the red. Are near infrared as well as the red. Are near infrared as well as the red. Are there any other key differences that we there any other key differences that we there any other key differences that we should know about those different should know about those different should know about those different products in your line? No, you nailed

1:23products in your line? No, you nailed products in your line? No, you nailed it. It's exactly the way I would frame it. It's exactly the way I would frame it. It's exactly the way I would frame it. And when we think about the impulse, it. And when we think about the impulse, it. And when we think about the impulse, it's pretty cool. You mentioned some of it's pretty cool. You mentioned some of it's pretty cool. You mentioned some of these, but you have the different these, but you have the different these, but you have the different programs like detox, relaxation, programs like detox, relaxation, programs like detox, relaxation, anti-aging, cardiovascular, weight loss, anti-aging, cardiovascular, weight loss, anti-aging, cardiovascular, weight loss, and pain relief. Yes, it changes the and pain relief. Yes, it changes the and pain relief. Yes, it changes the frequencies, it changes the intensities, frequencies, it changes the intensities, frequencies, it changes the intensities, and it t changes the the pulsation. So, and it t changes the the pulsation. So, and it t changes the the pulsation. So, those are the the different and all of those are the the different and all of those are the the different and all of that is based on the scientific that is based on the scientific that is based on the scientific research. So, each program is going to research. So, each program is going to research. So, each program is going to you're going to feel a different you're going to feel a different you're going to feel a different experience. And is it a different experience. And is it a different experience. And is it a different temperature based on the programs as temperature based on the programs as temperature based on the programs as well or is it largely the same? The well or is it largely the same? The well or is it largely the same? The temperature can completely vary. For temperature can completely vary. For temperature can completely vary. For example, the anti-aging program is example, the anti-aging program is example, the anti-aging program is primarily near red and far because the primarily near red and far because the primarily near red and far because the skin like we want to protect the skin as skin like we want to protect the skin as skin like we want to protect the skin as much as possible and we want to purify much as possible and we want to purify much as possible and we want to purify it and detoxify it with the far infrared it and detoxify it with the far infrared it and detoxify it with the far infrared and then we want to penetrate it with and then we want to penetrate it with and then we want to penetrate it with the red and the near and increase your

1:24the red and the near and increase your the red and the near and increase your your collagen and your elastin. So, we your collagen and your elastin. So, we your collagen and your elastin. So, we don't really need the mid infrared one don't really need the mid infrared one don't really need the mid infrared one which creates a hotter experience. So which creates a hotter experience. So which creates a hotter experience. So that is going to be a completely that is going to be a completely that is going to be a completely different experience as far as it different experience as far as it different experience as far as it relates to temperature. So in reaching relates to temperature. So in reaching relates to temperature. So in reaching out to my community to see what they out to my community to see what they out to my community to see what they were interested in learning about sauna were interested in learning about sauna were interested in learning about sauna and about your products, the biggest and about your products, the biggest and about your products, the biggest topic was EMF exposure. So so many topic was EMF exposure. So so many topic was EMF exposure. So so many people in this community are EMF people in this community are EMF people in this community are EMF sensitive. We work very hard to reduce sensitive. We work very hard to reduce sensitive. We work very hard to reduce our exposure as much as possible. our exposure as much as possible. our exposure as much as possible. There's also some rationale that talks There's also some rationale that talks There's also some rationale that talks about EMFs blocking detoxification. about EMFs blocking detoxification. about EMFs blocking detoxification. And I've seen this myself with people And I've seen this myself with people And I've seen this myself with people that if you can just reduce their EMF that if you can just reduce their EMF that if you can just reduce their EMF exposure, they can start to detoxify exposure, they can start to detoxify exposure, they can start to detoxify inherently much better just from kind of inherently much better just from kind of inherently much better just from kind of getting out of a cellular sympathetic getting out of a cellular sympathetic getting out of a cellular sympathetic dominance. So people ask how much EMF dominance. So people ask how much EMF dominance. So people ask how much EMF your saunas have. I know you talk about your saunas have. I know you talk about

1:25your saunas have. I know you talk about this a lot. It's important to you, but I this a lot. It's important to you, but I this a lot. It's important to you, but I want to think about what exactly when want to think about what exactly when want to think about what exactly when sunlighten says it's low EMF, are we sunlighten says it's low EMF, are we sunlighten says it's low EMF, are we talking about magnetic fields? Are we talking about magnetic fields? Are we talking about magnetic fields? Are we talking about electric fields? Are we talking about electric fields? Are we talking about electric fields? Are we talking about radio frequency? What is talking about radio frequency? What is talking about radio frequency? What is your design and testing process when we your design and testing process when we your design and testing process when we talk about EMFs? because I've seen other talk about EMFs? because I've seen other talk about EMFs? because I've seen other products that claim to be low in EMFs products that claim to be low in EMFs products that claim to be low in EMFs and building biologists would come out and building biologists would come out and building biologists would come out and do their testing and find exactly and do their testing and find exactly and do their testing and find exactly the opposite of what we expected. So the opposite of what we expected. So the opposite of what we expected. So what does low EMF mean in the sunlighten what does low EMF mean in the sunlighten what does low EMF mean in the sunlighten context? Yes. And so this is really context? Yes. And so this is really context? Yes. And so this is really important to us as well and it always important to us as well and it always important to us as well and it always was since the beginning of of our of our was since the beginning of of our of our was since the beginning of of our of our company. We have evolved and I'm so company. We have evolved and I'm so company. We have evolved and I'm so proud to say that we have independently proud to say that we have independently proud to say that we have independently tested so that that way whatever I say tested so that that way whatever I say tested so that that way whatever I say on here which is that EMF is virtually on here which is that EMF is virtually on here which is that EMF is virtually non-existent. I can back that up with an non-existent. I can back that up with an non-existent. I can back that up with an independent testing company had nothing independent testing company had nothing independent testing company had nothing to do with us except for come here to

1:26to do with us except for come here to to do with us except for come here to Kansas City and test our saunas. And and Kansas City and test our saunas. And and Kansas City and test our saunas. And and when they were doing that testing, were when they were doing that testing, were when they were doing that testing, were they looking at magnetic, electric, and they looking at magnetic, electric, and they looking at magnetic, electric, and radio frequency, or were they focused on radio frequency, or were they focused on radio frequency, or were they focused on one specific aspect of what we often one specific aspect of what we often one specific aspect of what we often just refer to as EMF? just refer to as EMF? just refer to as EMF? They looked as extensive. They looked at They looked as extensive. They looked at They looked as extensive. They looked at everything. So, building on the EMF everything. So, building on the EMF everything. So, building on the EMF conversation for the more hyper conversation for the more hyper conversation for the more hyper sensitive and maybe what I'll do is sensitive and maybe what I'll do is sensitive and maybe what I'll do is reach out and put a link in the show reach out and put a link in the show reach out and put a link in the show notes that goes into more detail about notes that goes into more detail about notes that goes into more detail about the EMF piece that you mentioned with the EMF piece that you mentioned with the EMF piece that you mentioned with the third party tester because I know the third party tester because I know the third party tester because I know people are going to want more detail people are going to want more detail people are going to want more detail than I could even possibly offer and than I could even possibly offer and than I could even possibly offer and that we could talk about in this that we could talk about in this that we could talk about in this conversation. But thinking about more conversation. But thinking about more conversation. But thinking about more sensitive people, what about things like sensitive people, what about things like sensitive people, what about things like VOCC exposure? Like when people first VOCC exposure? Like when people first VOCC exposure? Like when people first get their sauna, do they say, "Oh my get their sauna, do they say, "Oh my get their sauna, do they say, "Oh my god, like it smelled so bad." Or are god, like it smelled so bad." Or are god, like it smelled so bad." Or are there any chemicals or glues or there any chemicals or glues or there any chemicals or glues or varnishes or anything that people in the varnishes or anything that people in the varnishes or anything that people in the mass cell or multiple chemical mass cell or multiple chemical mass cell or multiple chemical sensitivity community might react to?

1:27sensitivity community might react to? sensitivity community might react to? There aren't. And I mean, we grew up in There aren't. And I mean, we grew up in There aren't. And I mean, we grew up in the MCS category, so I mean, we it's not the MCS category, so I mean, we it's not the MCS category, so I mean, we it's not like we aren't aware. I mean, we're so like we aren't aware. I mean, we're so like we aren't aware. I mean, we're so sensitive to people's needs and so we sensitive to people's needs and so we sensitive to people's needs and so we tailored everything, all of our tailored everything, all of our tailored everything, all of our materials. I won't go into all the materials. I won't go into all the materials. I won't go into all the details of everything that we use, but details of everything that we use, but details of everything that we use, but we're really strict about making sure we're really strict about making sure we're really strict about making sure that when you open up that box and you that when you open up that box and you that when you open up that box and you start to, you know, put it together and start to, you know, put it together and start to, you know, put it together and you get in that you we are enabling and you get in that you we are enabling and you get in that you we are enabling and empower you to live your healthiest empower you to live your healthiest empower you to live your healthiest life. You mentioned earlier that there life. You mentioned earlier that there life. You mentioned earlier that there really is no need to preheat the sauna really is no need to preheat the sauna really is no need to preheat the sauna to benefit from the infrared itself, but to benefit from the infrared itself, but to benefit from the infrared itself, but for people, I know oftentimes I like to for people, I know oftentimes I like to for people, I know oftentimes I like to preheat mine and it's kind of a manual preheat mine and it's kind of a manual preheat mine and it's kind of a manual process, but wondering is there an process, but wondering is there an process, but wondering is there an ability to automatically start that ability to automatically start that ability to automatically start that preheating process. When we're thinking preheating process. When we're thinking preheating process. When we're thinking of the impulse, can that be scheduled or of the impulse, can that be scheduled or of the impulse, can that be scheduled or is there a way to do it remotely so that

1:28is there a way to do it remotely so that is there a way to do it remotely so that everything's ready to go when you're everything's ready to go when you're everything's ready to go when you're ready to go? Yes, you can absolutely do ready to go? Yes, you can absolutely do ready to go? Yes, you can absolutely do that. When people are thinking about that. When people are thinking about that. When people are thinking about installing one of these systems in their installing one of these systems in their installing one of these systems in their home, is there a need for some special home, is there a need for some special home, is there a need for some special power? Can we run these on a normal power? Can we run these on a normal power? Can we run these on a normal outlet? Do we need to have an outlet? Do we need to have an outlet? Do we need to have an electrician put in a 240 outlet? How is electrician put in a 240 outlet? How is electrician put in a 240 outlet? How is that working? It depends on the model, that working? It depends on the model, that working? It depends on the model, but I will say this rule of thumb that but I will say this rule of thumb that but I will say this rule of thumb that nothing that is true for every nothing that is true for every nothing that is true for every everything except for probably the solo everything except for probably the solo everything except for probably the solo is you need to have a dedicated circuit is you need to have a dedicated circuit is you need to have a dedicated circuit and that's the most important thing. and that's the most important thing. and that's the most important thing. After that, it just depends on which After that, it just depends on which After that, it just depends on which size you use. And then you will you will size you use. And then you will you will size you use. And then you will you will receive all the electrical specs. So you receive all the electrical specs. So you receive all the electrical specs. So you will know everything that you need to will know everything that you need to will know everything that you need to know. And I know some of your systems know. And I know some of your systems know. And I know some of your systems also have light therapy or also have light therapy or also have light therapy or chromotherapy. chromotherapy. chromotherapy. Wondering if you can talk to us a little Wondering if you can talk to us a little Wondering if you can talk to us a little bit about that. And is there any aspect bit about that. And is there any aspect bit about that. And is there any aspect then of sound or acoustic therapy that's then of sound or acoustic therapy that's then of sound or acoustic therapy that's part of the sunlighten systems? We used part of the sunlighten systems? We used part of the sunlighten systems? We used to have acoustic therapy. It's one of my to have acoustic therapy. It's one of my to have acoustic therapy. It's one of my favorite parts of our sauna. That's

1:29favorite parts of our sauna. That's favorite parts of our sauna. That's currently on hold. Work in progress. So currently on hold. Work in progress. So currently on hold. Work in progress. So stay tuned for that. As far as stay tuned for that. As far as stay tuned for that. As far as chromotherapy, chromotherapy, chromotherapy, the colored light therapy, that is the colored light therapy, that is the colored light therapy, that is available in all of our saunas. You available in all of our saunas. You available in all of our saunas. You talked a little bit about people that talked a little bit about people that talked a little bit about people that maybe don't have the space or maybe in maybe don't have the space or maybe in maybe don't have the space or maybe in situations where we don't want to have situations where we don't want to have situations where we don't want to have something that's more permanent because something that's more permanent because something that's more permanent because they may be moving those types of they may be moving those types of they may be moving those types of things. Having the solo, which if I things. Having the solo, which if I things. Having the solo, which if I understand correctly is kind of either understand correctly is kind of either understand correctly is kind of either laying down on the floor, putting it on laying down on the floor, putting it on laying down on the floor, putting it on a massage table and then pulling the a massage table and then pulling the a massage table and then pulling the dome over. You mentioned that your head dome over. You mentioned that your head dome over. You mentioned that your head is out. I know there's a lot of is out. I know there's a lot of is out. I know there's a lot of conversation these days about sauna conversation these days about sauna conversation these days about sauna blankets. I've tried some of those. I I blankets. I've tried some of those. I I blankets. I've tried some of those. I I looked like a candy cane when I got looked like a candy cane when I got looked like a candy cane when I got done. The heat was not distributed well. done. The heat was not distributed well. done. The heat was not distributed well. I know I've spoken to other people that I know I've spoken to other people that I know I've spoken to other people that even had some minor burns from some of even had some minor burns from some of even had some minor burns from some of those systems. So, I'm not so sure that those systems. So, I'm not so sure that those systems. So, I'm not so sure that that's an ideal option. Maybe they've that's an ideal option. Maybe they've that's an ideal option. Maybe they've evolved further. but wondering if you evolved further. but wondering if you evolved further. but wondering if you can just talk to us a little bit about can just talk to us a little bit about can just talk to us a little bit about some of the use cases or the people that some of the use cases or the people that some of the use cases or the people that are more drawn to using your solo option

1:30are more drawn to using your solo option are more drawn to using your solo option for something more portable. Yeah, the for something more portable. Yeah, the for something more portable. Yeah, the solo is I really strongly encourage solo is I really strongly encourage solo is I really strongly encourage people who are listening. I mean, it's people who are listening. I mean, it's people who are listening. I mean, it's such a great solution for anybody with such a great solution for anybody with such a great solution for anybody with MCS or anybody who has lime and mold or, MCS or anybody who has lime and mold or, MCS or anybody who has lime and mold or, you know, just really really looking to, you know, just really really looking to, you know, just really really looking to, you know, upgrade their health. It's you know, upgrade their health. It's you know, upgrade their health. It's easy. It's portable. There's two domes easy. It's portable. There's two domes easy. It's portable. There's two domes that that are there. It's about 67 that that are there. It's about 67 that that are there. It's about 67 pounds all in. So, 30 poundsish, you pounds all in. So, 30 poundsish, you pounds all in. So, 30 poundsish, you know, each dome. So, it's not it's not know, each dome. So, it's not it's not know, each dome. So, it's not it's not difficult to to use. And it also comes difficult to to use. And it also comes difficult to to use. And it also comes with the chromo therapy. And I highly with the chromo therapy. And I highly with the chromo therapy. And I highly recommend it. It's it's it's really recommend it. It's it's it's really recommend it. It's it's it's really intense. I would if you're if you're intense. I would if you're if you're intense. I would if you're if you're going to go this route, I would start going to go this route, I would start going to go this route, I would start low for sure because you're so close to low for sure because you're so close to low for sure because you're so close to the to the heaters and the heaters as the to the heaters and the heaters as the to the heaters and the heaters as your reminder are the heat when it's the your reminder are the heat when it's the your reminder are the heat when it's the energy when it's transferred, it's energy when it's transferred, it's energy when it's transferred, it's absorbed into the cells and so that that

1:31absorbed into the cells and so that that absorbed into the cells and so that that like you're like literally immersed and like you're like literally immersed and like you're like literally immersed and so it's very very powerful and potent. so it's very very powerful and potent. so it's very very powerful and potent. I'm definitely a huge fan of red light I'm definitely a huge fan of red light I'm definitely a huge fan of red light therapy and use a powerful red light therapy and use a powerful red light therapy and use a powerful red light therapy panel. So wondering with the red therapy panel. So wondering with the red therapy panel. So wondering with the red light that we're getting in a sauna, how light that we're getting in a sauna, how light that we're getting in a sauna, how does that compare in terms of the power does that compare in terms of the power does that compare in terms of the power and intensity of maybe a standalone red and intensity of maybe a standalone red and intensity of maybe a standalone red light panel? And I know you all offer light panel? And I know you all offer light panel? And I know you all offer those as well. Yes. So the we have we those as well. Yes. So the we have we those as well. Yes. So the we have we have all of it. I personally I have have all of it. I personally I have have all of it. I personally I have both. I have my in my home I have the both. I have my in my home I have the both. I have my in my home I have the standalone and I also have obviously the standalone and I also have obviously the standalone and I also have obviously the the sauna. And I mean you if you have a the sauna. And I mean you if you have a the sauna. And I mean you if you have a big huge panel you're going to have more big huge panel you're going to have more big huge panel you're going to have more power cuz it's a big huge panel. power cuz it's a big huge panel. power cuz it's a big huge panel. However, However, the way bread and near works and I don't the way bread and near works and I don't the way bread and near works and I don't want to get too deep into this but want to get too deep into this but want to get too deep into this but essentially it's a frequency of energy essentially it's a frequency of energy essentially it's a frequency of energy that can only you can only absorb so

1:32that can only you can only absorb so that can only you can only absorb so much and then you're you're done. So, I much and then you're you're done. So, I much and then you're you're done. So, I particularly like the the red and the particularly like the the red and the particularly like the the red and the near inside my sauna because it's also near inside my sauna because it's also near inside my sauna because it's also I'm also being able to receive the heat I'm also being able to receive the heat I'm also being able to receive the heat at the same time. How often do you see at the same time. How often do you see at the same time. How often do you see people having detoxification reactions people having detoxification reactions people having detoxification reactions or Herxheimer like reactions in more or Herxheimer like reactions in more or Herxheimer like reactions in more sensitive people? And if someone does sensitive people? And if someone does sensitive people? And if someone does feel worse as they're kind of feel worse as they're kind of feel worse as they're kind of acclimating and hopefully starting low acclimating and hopefully starting low acclimating and hopefully starting low and slow, if they do feel worse after and slow, if they do feel worse after and slow, if they do feel worse after sauna, are there any rescue tools that sauna, are there any rescue tools that sauna, are there any rescue tools that you suggest for people to move beyond you suggest for people to move beyond you suggest for people to move beyond flares as quickly as possible? We have flares as quickly as possible? We have flares as quickly as possible? We have not ever since we I remember that back not ever since we I remember that back not ever since we I remember that back you know 20 years ago before we you know 20 years ago before we you know 20 years ago before we perfected our technology but once we perfected our technology but once we perfected our technology but once we increased our emissivity our absorption increased our emissivity our absorption increased our emissivity our absorption up to 99% we have not had any of those up to 99% we have not had any of those up to 99% we have not had any of those types of experiences. So let's as we types of experiences. So let's as we types of experiences. So let's as we wrap up then talk about contra wrap up then talk about contra wrap up then talk about contra indications for sauna therapy. What if indications for sauna therapy. What if indications for sauna therapy. What if someone has implanted metal orthopedic

1:33someone has implanted metal orthopedic someone has implanted metal orthopedic devices or dental implants or devices or dental implants or devices or dental implants or pacemakers, pacemakers, pacemakers, maybe pregnancy as well? Who should not maybe pregnancy as well? Who should not maybe pregnancy as well? Who should not be using sonaotherapy? Definitely be using sonaotherapy? Definitely be using sonaotherapy? Definitely pregnancy. Um, and anybody pregnancy. Um, and anybody pregnancy. Um, and anybody you know who has metal, they should just you know who has metal, they should just you know who has metal, they should just consult with their physician. This is an consult with their physician. This is an consult with their physician. This is an area where we, you know, we haven't had area where we, you know, we haven't had area where we, you know, we haven't had anything, but I would may want to make anything, but I would may want to make anything, but I would may want to make sure that, you know, if you have sure that, you know, if you have sure that, you know, if you have implants, talk to your physician first. implants, talk to your physician first. implants, talk to your physician first. And what about breast implants from a And what about breast implants from a And what about breast implants from a perspective of heating them and them perspective of heating them and them perspective of heating them and them then potentially leeching out more then potentially leeching out more then potentially leeching out more toxins into the system? Is that a toxins into the system? Is that a toxins into the system? Is that a consideration? That's something that we consideration? That's something that we consideration? That's something that we have asked many physicians about over have asked many physicians about over have asked many physicians about over the years and we haven't had anybody the years and we haven't had anybody the years and we haven't had anybody that has had you know any concerns but that has had you know any concerns but that has had you know any concerns but because there's so I mean breast because there's so I mean breast because there's so I mean breast implants have changed so much over the implants have changed so much over the implants have changed so much over the years from my understanding and so we years from my understanding and so we years from my understanding and so we always want to go back to the the always want to go back to the the always want to go back to the the physician. A couple of listeners they

1:34physician. A couple of listeners they physician. A couple of listeners they commented that they had issues doing commented that they had issues doing commented that they had issues doing sauna with their eyes and they felt like sauna with their eyes and they felt like sauna with their eyes and they felt like their vision was blurry after sauna. their vision was blurry after sauna. their vision was blurry after sauna. they didn't notice this if they covered they didn't notice this if they covered they didn't notice this if they covered their eyes. One of them maybe was using their eyes. One of them maybe was using their eyes. One of them maybe was using aluminum foil, which I thought was an aluminum foil, which I thought was an aluminum foil, which I thought was an interesting solution. Are there any interesting solution. Are there any interesting solution. Are there any concerns around protecting the eyes? Do concerns around protecting the eyes? Do concerns around protecting the eyes? Do we need goggles? Do we need protective we need goggles? Do we need protective we need goggles? Do we need protective glasses? Or could it be, and this was glasses? Or could it be, and this was glasses? Or could it be, and this was more my thought from knowing when I do more my thought from knowing when I do more my thought from knowing when I do sauna, that just sweating and having sauna, that just sweating and having sauna, that just sweating and having then some of those toxins in the sweat then some of those toxins in the sweat then some of those toxins in the sweat potentially getting into the eyes might potentially getting into the eyes might potentially getting into the eyes might be a reason that people could experience be a reason that people could experience be a reason that people could experience that. So, anything that we need to be that. So, anything that we need to be that. So, anything that we need to be careful about from the perspective of careful about from the perspective of careful about from the perspective of the eyes with infrared? No, there's the eyes with infrared? No, there's the eyes with infrared? No, there's nothing to be careful about. I would I nothing to be careful about. I would I nothing to be careful about. I would I would support your theory as well. So, would support your theory as well. So, would support your theory as well. So, if people want to learn more about if people want to learn more about if people want to learn more about Sunlight and products, tell us how they Sunlight and products, tell us how they Sunlight and products, tell us how they can do that. And I know you're offering can do that. And I know you're offering can do that. And I know you're offering a special discount to the Better Health

1:35a special discount to the Better Health a special discount to the Better Health Guy community as well. Yes. So, most Guy community as well. Yes. So, most Guy community as well. Yes. So, most important to the discount, which is up important to the discount, which is up important to the discount, which is up to $1,400 off, make sure you mention the to $1,400 off, make sure you mention the to $1,400 off, make sure you mention the Better Health Guy. That's the way it's Better Health Guy. That's the way it's Better Health Guy. That's the way it's going to unlock that code. And then you going to unlock that code. And then you going to unlock that code. And then you can just go to sunlighten.com can just go to sunlighten.com can just go to sunlighten.com or you can call us 877-2920020. or you can call us 877-2920020. or you can call us 877-2920020. You can do chat. You can we're going to You can do chat. You can we're going to You can do chat. You can we're going to meet you wherever you want to meet. You meet you wherever you want to meet. You meet you wherever you want to meet. You can put your cell phone in. We can text can put your cell phone in. We can text can put your cell phone in. We can text you. However you want to have a you. However you want to have a you. However you want to have a consultation and however you want to be consultation and however you want to be consultation and however you want to be reached, we will reach you. My last reached, we will reach you. My last reached, we will reach you. My last question is the same for every guest and question is the same for every guest and question is the same for every guest and that is what are some of the key things that is what are some of the key things that is what are some of the key things that you do on a daily basis in support that you do on a daily basis in support that you do on a daily basis in support of your own health? I really focus so of your own health? I really focus so of your own health? I really focus so much on mindset much on mindset much on mindset and attitude and and attitude and and attitude and putting things into perspective. putting things into perspective. putting things into perspective. Um, so that's I I I feel the mind, Um, so that's I I I feel the mind, Um, so that's I I I feel the mind, you know, control so much of our you know, control so much of our you know, control so much of our well-being. And so I want to make sure

1:36well-being. And so I want to make sure well-being. And so I want to make sure that I start my day with a beautiful that I start my day with a beautiful that I start my day with a beautiful healing mindset. And so that's one of healing mindset. And so that's one of healing mindset. And so that's one of the reasons I do my sauna in the morning the reasons I do my sauna in the morning the reasons I do my sauna in the morning because it puts me in the right mindset because it puts me in the right mindset because it puts me in the right mindset and the right place so that I can, you and the right place so that I can, you and the right place so that I can, you know, manage the rest of my day because know, manage the rest of my day because know, manage the rest of my day because my day as I plan it never ends up the my day as I plan it never ends up the my day as I plan it never ends up the same way that I planned it in my head. same way that I planned it in my head. same way that I planned it in my head. It's always takes detours. So I do I It's always takes detours. So I do I It's always takes detours. So I do I need to start off with just a really need to start off with just a really need to start off with just a really good attitude, you know, with a smile good attitude, you know, with a smile good attitude, you know, with a smile and just the right perspective. And and just the right perspective. And and just the right perspective. And that's the really the most important that's the really the most important that's the really the most important thing. The rest falls into place. I thing. The rest falls into place. I thing. The rest falls into place. I mean, I drink a lot of hot water with mean, I drink a lot of hot water with mean, I drink a lot of hot water with lemon, you know, I take electrolytes. I lemon, you know, I take electrolytes. I lemon, you know, I take electrolytes. I eat, you know, a highly nutritious, you eat, you know, a highly nutritious, you eat, you know, a highly nutritious, you know, diet. I exercise. know, diet. I exercise. know, diet. I exercise. But the, you know, non-negotiable is But the, you know, non-negotiable is But the, you know, non-negotiable is really taking time in my sauna and and really taking time in my sauna and and really taking time in my sauna and and just having the right the right mental just having the right the right mental just having the right the right mental perspective. Connie, this has been such perspective. Connie, this has been such perspective. Connie, this has been such a great conversation. And I want to a great conversation. And I want to a great conversation. And I want to thank you for being so generous with thank you for being so generous with thank you for being so generous with your time, but also really want to thank

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Episode 219 Detox Heal Thrive The Power of Sauna Therapy with Connie Zack