Episode 106 Easter Reset Cold Plunges Saunas the Power of Recovery with Chris Va
00:00This is the recovery lab. This is the recovery lab. >> Here we dive deep into the struggles, >> Here we dive deep into the struggles, >> Here we dive deep into the struggles, victories, and hope that stem from victories, and hope that stem from victories, and hope that stem from recovery. No shame, no judgment, just recovery. No shame, no judgment, just recovery. No shame, no judgment, just truth, grace, and inspiration. truth, grace, and inspiration. truth, grace, and inspiration. >> Let's walk this road together. >> Let's walk this road together. >> Let's walk this road together. [Music] [Music] [Music] >> All right. All right. All right. Welcome >> All right. All right. All right. Welcome >> All right. All right. All right. Welcome back to Recovery Labs, episode 106. I'm back to Recovery Labs, episode 106. I'm back to Recovery Labs, episode 106. I'm David Sugg. David Sugg. David Sugg. >> I'm Daniel Anderson. and with our guest >> I'm Daniel Anderson. and with our guest >> I'm Daniel Anderson. and with our guest Chris Valentine, local serial Chris Valentine, local serial Chris Valentine, local serial entrepreneur. Uh, one close close bud. entrepreneur. Uh, one close close bud. entrepreneur. Uh, one close close bud. Super excited to have you on today. Super excited to have you on today. Super excited to have you on today. We're going to talk about the business We're going to talk about the business We're going to talk about the business you got going on, why you're in that you got going on, why you're in that you got going on, why you're in that business, how you found yourself in that business, how you found yourself in that business, how you found yourself in that business, what you love about it. And business, what you love about it. And business, what you love about it. And honestly, like every time I go in there, honestly, like every time I go in there, honestly, like every time I go in there, it's like a 12step meeting in there. I'm it's like a 12step meeting in there. I'm it's like a 12step meeting in there. I'm seeing homies from all different groups seeing homies from all different groups seeing homies from all different groups that I go to showing up because it that I go to showing up because it that I go to showing up because it works. And it's just like there's works. And it's just like there's works. And it's just like there's something going on and what you got over something going on and what you got over something going on and what you got over there that is that is helping a lot of there that is that is helping a lot of there that is that is helping a lot of people. U people are willing to do the people. U people are willing to do the people. U people are willing to do the deal. the room to hop in that cold deal. the room to hop in that cold deal. the room to hop in that cold plunge, sit in the sauna, do that
01:00plunge, sit in the sauna, do that plunge, sit in the sauna, do that spiritual, emotional cleansing, do the spiritual, emotional cleansing, do the spiritual, emotional cleansing, do the do the work. It just it works. It's do the work. It just it works. It's do the work. It just it works. It's really, really exciting to see it really, really exciting to see it really, really exciting to see it happen, especially in Jackson, happen, especially in Jackson, happen, especially in Jackson, Mississippi, because I I get I get Mississippi, because I I get I get Mississippi, because I I get I get burdened sometimes with like what's not burdened sometimes with like what's not burdened sometimes with like what's not going on in Jackson and hoping good going on in Jackson and hoping good going on in Jackson and hoping good things will come around and you've got a things will come around and you've got a things will come around and you've got a really really cool business model. I really really cool business model. I really really cool business model. I want to I want to jump right into that. want to I want to jump right into that. want to I want to jump right into that. But first, I want to ask you about, you But first, I want to ask you about, you But first, I want to ask you about, you know, just to qualify you as somebody know, just to qualify you as somebody know, just to qualify you as somebody who's battled addiction and has demons. who's battled addiction and has demons. who's battled addiction and has demons. It's not it's it's cool to see what It's not it's it's cool to see what It's not it's it's cool to see what you've done with your business, but you've done with your business, but you've done with your business, but what's more cool is kind of like me is what's more cool is kind of like me is what's more cool is kind of like me is having that past, you know, having that having that past, you know, having that having that past, you know, having that that hard street struggle and turning it that hard street struggle and turning it that hard street struggle and turning it around and coming like a self-made around and coming like a self-made around and coming like a self-made entrepreneur doing the deal. Like I entrepreneur doing the deal. Like I entrepreneur doing the deal. Like I think for me that's what I find most think for me that's what I find most think for me that's what I find most interesting about about you and and interesting about about you and and interesting about about you and and people like you is the guys that are people like you is the guys that are people like you is the guys that are just like just starting from from less just like just starting from from less just like just starting from from less than zero. not zero, not one, but less than zero. not zero, not one, but less than zero. not zero, not one, but less than zero and turn around and creating a than zero and turn around and creating a than zero and turn around and creating a business that's helping people. It's business that's helping people. It's business that's helping people. It's making a living and just get fired up making a living and just get fired up making a living and just get fired up about not just something like, "Yeah, about not just something like, "Yeah, about not just something like, "Yeah, I'm selling some real estate or oh yeah, I'm selling some real estate or oh yeah, I'm selling some real estate or oh yeah, insurance." No, I'm I'm in this thing. insurance." No, I'm I'm in this thing. insurance." No, I'm I'm in this thing. It's really, really cool. So, tell me a It's really, really cool. So, tell me a It's really, really cool. So, tell me a little bit about the back. What was that little bit about the back. What was that little bit about the back. What was that last year like of battling some of that
02:00last year like of battling some of that last year like of battling some of that street stuff? street stuff? street stuff? >> Um, well, first off, I'm grateful to be >> Um, well, first off, I'm grateful to be >> Um, well, first off, I'm grateful to be here. Obviously, I feel like our podcast here. Obviously, I feel like our podcast here. Obviously, I feel like our podcast started in the sauna. Uh, but so you started in the sauna. Uh, but so you started in the sauna. Uh, but so you mean like that you said the last year mean like that you said the last year mean like that you said the last year before [ __ ] got real? before [ __ ] got real? before [ __ ] got real? >> Yeah. Yeah. >> Yeah. Yeah. >> Yeah. Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> So I'd been in a run of, you know, in >> So I'd been in a run of, you know, in >> So I'd been in a run of, you know, in the opioid space. Uh, I've been in and the opioid space. Uh, I've been in and the opioid space. Uh, I've been in and out of the street life for a long time. out of the street life for a long time. out of the street life for a long time. And, uh, I had been in probably a two, And, uh, I had been in probably a two, And, uh, I had been in probably a two, three, maybe four year spiral. And three, maybe four year spiral. And three, maybe four year spiral. And ultimately, usually towards the end of ultimately, usually towards the end of ultimately, usually towards the end of it, you start making really stupid it, you start making really stupid it, you start making really stupid decisions. and it's like it's decisions. and it's like it's decisions. and it's like it's questionable who you're hanging out with questionable who you're hanging out with questionable who you're hanging out with and you don't have any money. Um, and and you don't have any money. Um, and and you don't have any money. Um, and then essentially my life stopped when I then essentially my life stopped when I then essentially my life stopped when I got arrested. Uh, that was in let's see got arrested. Uh, that was in let's see got arrested. Uh, that was in let's see 20 September 29th of 2015 20 September 29th of 2015 20 September 29th of 2015 and I got arrested and I got four and I got arrested and I got four and I got arrested and I got four charges. Possession of marijuana with charges. Possession of marijuana with charges. Possession of marijuana with intent, possession of heroin with intent, possession of heroin with intent, possession of heroin with intent. Um, at that moment I knew that
03:00intent. Um, at that moment I knew that intent. Um, at that moment I knew that my life was over. like it was over. And my life was over. like it was over. And my life was over. like it was over. And not only that, just from a junkie not only that, just from a junkie not only that, just from a junkie standpoint, I was like, you got 18 hours standpoint, I was like, you got 18 hours standpoint, I was like, you got 18 hours until shit's about to get real. until shit's about to get real. until shit's about to get real. >> And [ __ ] got real while I was in jail. >> And [ __ ] got real while I was in jail. >> And [ __ ] got real while I was in jail. >> Um, so I was in jail for a week and um I >> Um, so I was in jail for a week and um I >> Um, so I was in jail for a week and um I remember calling my dad and I was like, remember calling my dad and I was like, remember calling my dad and I was like, "Dude, "Dude, "Dude, I'm done with this. Like, please come I'm done with this. Like, please come I'm done with this. Like, please come save me and get me out of here." And uh save me and get me out of here." And uh save me and get me out of here." And uh so the next I would say the next like so the next I would say the next like so the next I would say the next like [ __ ] three years of my life two to three [ __ ] three years of my life two to three [ __ ] three years of my life two to three years were hell. Um years were hell. Um years were hell. Um >> trying to kick it was it back and forth >> trying to kick it was it back and forth >> trying to kick it was it back and forth just just re recreating your life that just just re recreating your life that just just re recreating your life that big of a challenge. big of a challenge. big of a challenge. >> Once that happened to me u I we were >> Once that happened to me u I we were >> Once that happened to me u I we were done as far as like done as far as like done as far as like >> that my drug of choice >> that my drug of choice >> that my drug of choice >> like it was over. I knew it was over. It >> like it was over. I knew it was over. It >> like it was over. I knew it was over. It was like your last dance. Um, so I was like your last dance. Um, so I was like your last dance. Um, so I started detoxing in jail. You know, I started detoxing in jail. You know, I started detoxing in jail. You know, I remember having to take a shower. Like,
04:00remember having to take a shower. Like, remember having to take a shower. Like, I don't know how much detail of this is I don't know how much detail of this is I don't know how much detail of this is going to be helpful. going to be helpful. going to be helpful. >> Bring it, bro. >> Bring it, bro. >> Bring it, bro. >> Okay, hold on. Let me sip some water >> Okay, hold on. Let me sip some water >> Okay, hold on. Let me sip some water real quick. real quick. real quick. >> Shit's about to get real. >> You know, um, you know, in Ferris Day >> You know, um, you know, in Ferris Day Off where they're like, Off where they're like, Off where they're like, she's at the police station and Charlie she's at the police station and Charlie she's at the police station and Charlie Sheen, she's like, "What are you in Sheen, she's like, "What are you in Sheen, she's like, "What are you in for?" He's like, "Drugs. Um, that was my for?" He's like, "Drugs. Um, that was my for?" He's like, "Drugs. Um, that was my response when they're like, "What are response when they're like, "What are response when they're like, "What are you in for?" And I don't know why my you in for?" And I don't know why my you in for?" And I don't know why my response was heroin. So, my I was in the response was heroin. So, my I was in the response was heroin. So, my I was in the top bunk. And I just remember like I was top bunk. And I just remember like I was top bunk. And I just remember like I was a vegetable. Like I literally I would a vegetable. Like I literally I would a vegetable. Like I literally I would bribe my bunk mate, which he called me bribe my bunk mate, which he called me bribe my bunk mate, which he called me heroin, by the way. That was my nickname heroin, by the way. That was my nickname heroin, by the way. That was my nickname for six days. And uh I he would for six days. And uh I he would for six days. And uh I he would literally I would be like, "You can have literally I would be like, "You can have literally I would be like, "You can have my cornbread or you can have multiple my cornbread or you can have multiple my cornbread or you can have multiple things off my tray if you will just hand things off my tray if you will just hand things off my tray if you will just hand it to me." because I was a vegetable. I it to me." because I was a vegetable. I it to me." because I was a vegetable. I was miserable. I mean, every strip and was miserable. I mean, every strip and was miserable. I mean, every strip and ounce of dignity that I had left was was ounce of dignity that I had left was was ounce of dignity that I had left was was gone. gone. gone. >> Yeah.
05:00>> Yeah. >> Um and I I remember I had a bond >> Um and I I remember I had a bond >> Um and I I remember I had a bond hearing, you know, like when you're in hearing, you know, like when you're in hearing, you know, like when you're in jail, you like you sit there and you jail, you like you sit there and you jail, you like you sit there and you just wait. That's all you do. You just just wait. That's all you do. You just just wait. That's all you do. You just wait and then you try and make friends wait and then you try and make friends wait and then you try and make friends with this weird social situation that with this weird social situation that with this weird social situation that you're in. And they're like, "Dude, you're in. And they're like, "Dude, you're in. And they're like, "Dude, heroin, you need to take a shower, bro." heroin, you need to take a shower, bro." heroin, you need to take a shower, bro." I was like, "All right, all right." So, I was like, "All right, all right." So, I was like, "All right, all right." So, I took a shower. Um, eventually I uh I I took a shower. Um, eventually I uh I I took a shower. Um, eventually I uh I went to my bond hearing. My bond was went to my bond hearing. My bond was went to my bond hearing. My bond was $100,000. So 10% so it was 10 grand. Um, $100,000. So 10% so it was 10 grand. Um, $100,000. So 10% so it was 10 grand. Um, I do have some cool stories and about I do have some cool stories and about I do have some cool stories and about being in there. I don't know how being in there. I don't know how being in there. I don't know how relevant they would be or you know, but relevant they would be or you know, but relevant they would be or you know, but so anyway, do we need a funny story so anyway, do we need a funny story so anyway, do we need a funny story about about me going in into about about me going in into about about me going in into >> Is there a funny part of this? Cuz >> Is there a funny part of this? Cuz >> Is there a funny part of this? Cuz >> I think I think that's needed. >> I think I think that's needed. >> I think I think that's needed. >> Let me take another sip of water. >> Let me take another sip of water. >> Let me take another sip of water. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. I mean, most of the folks whenever >> Yeah. I mean, most of the folks whenever >> Yeah. I mean, most of the folks whenever I was getting locked up, you know, they I was getting locked up, you know, they I was getting locked up, you know, they were out there playing on their cell were out there playing on their cell were out there playing on their cell phone. Cell phone to me meant a phone phone. Cell phone to me meant a phone phone. Cell phone to me meant a phone that I could reach from myself to to on that I could reach from myself to to on that I could reach from myself to to on the wall. Like, I didn't I didn't have the wall. Like, I didn't I didn't have the wall. Like, I didn't I didn't have all the other benefits that some of the all the other benefits that some of the all the other benefits that some of the other peers my my class had. But yeah,
06:00other peers my my class had. But yeah, other peers my my class had. But yeah, getting locked up and going through a getting locked up and going through a getting locked up and going through a detox, man. Like, golly, nothing cool detox, man. Like, golly, nothing cool detox, man. Like, golly, nothing cool about it, about it, about it, >> dude. Yeah, I remember. So, I was in >> dude. Yeah, I remember. So, I was in >> dude. Yeah, I remember. So, I was in like a I was in a cell with two other like a I was in a cell with two other like a I was in a cell with two other dudes for like two to three days and dudes for like two to three days and dudes for like two to three days and then they moved me to Gin Pop, which was then they moved me to Gin Pop, which was then they moved me to Gin Pop, which was just like it's a county holdup. So, I just like it's a county holdup. So, I just like it's a county holdup. So, I mean, there was it's just like eight mean, there was it's just like eight mean, there was it's just like eight beds with an bukoo of people. I mean, beds with an bukoo of people. I mean, beds with an bukoo of people. I mean, it's just totally overpop populated. it's just totally overpop populated. it's just totally overpop populated. There's no way it was legal. Um, and so There's no way it was legal. Um, and so There's no way it was legal. Um, and so I get in there and the first thing I I get in there and the first thing I I get in there and the first thing I enter into that door, this dude comes up enter into that door, this dude comes up enter into that door, this dude comes up to me and he's got a Mississippi tattoo to me and he's got a Mississippi tattoo to me and he's got a Mississippi tattoo on his neck and it's just like just on his neck and it's just like just on his neck and it's just like just worse than a jail tat. And there's like worse than a jail tat. And there's like worse than a jail tat. And there's like a star on there. It says Bay Springs. I a star on there. It says Bay Springs. I a star on there. It says Bay Springs. I mean, it looks like I I wrote it with my mean, it looks like I I wrote it with my mean, it looks like I I wrote it with my left hand. And he he said he said, left hand. And he he said he said, left hand. And he he said he said, "What's up, man? I'm Doughboy." And I "What's up, man? I'm Doughboy." And I "What's up, man? I'm Doughboy." And I was like, "What's up, bro?" He's like, was like, "What's up, bro?" He's like, was like, "What's up, bro?" He's like, "You straight?" And I'm just like, "I "You straight?" And I'm just like, "I "You straight?" And I'm just like, "I guess like we're here in felony. Hold guess like we're here in felony. Hold guess like we're here in felony. Hold up. Sure." And uh he's like, "Man, you up. Sure." And uh he's like, "Man, you up. Sure." And uh he's like, "Man, you walked in on something that happens one walked in on something that happens one walked in on something that happens one in every 10,000 times you're in jail." in every 10,000 times you're in jail." in every 10,000 times you're in jail." And I was like, "Oh, okay." And then And I was like, "Oh, okay." And then And I was like, "Oh, okay." And then this dude that looks like Charles Manson
07:00this dude that looks like Charles Manson this dude that looks like Charles Manson and has an alum piece of aluminum foil and has an alum piece of aluminum foil and has an alum piece of aluminum foil on a plastic fork proceeds to go up to on a plastic fork proceeds to go up to on a plastic fork proceeds to go up to this the socket on the wall where the TV this the socket on the wall where the TV this the socket on the wall where the TV is plugged up. You know, the 14inch tube is plugged up. You know, the 14inch tube is plugged up. You know, the 14inch tube TV that's like playing the most TV that's like playing the most TV that's like playing the most depressing TV shows. And you can see depressing TV shows. And you can see depressing TV shows. And you can see it's just singed. Like the like the it's just singed. Like the like the it's just singed. Like the like the bottom socket is just got black [ __ ] all bottom socket is just got black [ __ ] all bottom socket is just got black [ __ ] all over it. over it. over it. >> Popping sockets. >> Popping sockets. >> Popping sockets. >> Charles Manson just pops the socket. He >> Charles Manson just pops the socket. He >> Charles Manson just pops the socket. He gets the uh he gets a piece of tissue gets the uh he gets a piece of tissue gets the uh he gets a piece of tissue paper lit. And then me and four or five paper lit. And then me and four or five paper lit. And then me and four or five grown men proceed to sit around a grown men proceed to sit around a grown men proceed to sit around a toilet, a jet toilet while they're like toilet, a jet toilet while they're like toilet, a jet toilet while they're like pressing the button, pressing the pressing the button, pressing the pressing the button, pressing the button, and we smoke a prison sick. button, and we smoke a prison sick. button, and we smoke a prison sick. >> Yes. >> Yes. >> Yes. >> And it was like the size of a toothpick. >> And it was like the size of a toothpick. >> And it was like the size of a toothpick. >> Out of your life. >> Out of your life. >> Out of your life. >> Yeah. And given that I'm like three, I'm >> Yeah. And given that I'm like three, I'm >> Yeah. And given that I'm like three, I'm I'm starting to really hit this detox I'm starting to really hit this detox I'm starting to really hit this detox was like that was appetizing at that was like that was appetizing at that was like that was appetizing at that moment. I felt pretty good about it. And moment. I felt pretty good about it. And moment. I felt pretty good about it. And then I just got on my top bunk with my then I just got on my top bunk with my then I just got on my top bunk with my bunk above my bunk man. I slept like a bunk above my bunk man. I slept like a bunk above my bunk man. I slept like a baby. baby. baby. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Um so a few more days passed by. I'm a >> Um so a few more days passed by. I'm a >> Um so a few more days passed by. I'm a vegetable. I feel like [ __ ] I go to my vegetable. I feel like [ __ ] I go to my vegetable. I feel like [ __ ] I go to my bond hearing. I get out. Um and like I bond hearing. I get out. Um and like I bond hearing. I get out. Um and like I said, my belt was 100K, which is just said, my belt was 100K, which is just said, my belt was 100K, which is just like whoa. You know, it's just like
08:00like whoa. You know, it's just like like whoa. You know, it's just like whatever. You're just your mind is just whatever. You're just your mind is just whatever. You're just your mind is just like just like just like just mud like mud at that point. you can't mud like mud at that point. you can't mud like mud at that point. you can't you can't really think about you just you can't really think about you just you can't really think about you just you're automatically in survival mode. you're automatically in survival mode. you're automatically in survival mode. Um so I get out I remember my dad takes Um so I get out I remember my dad takes Um so I get out I remember my dad takes me to Dollar General and I just got like me to Dollar General and I just got like me to Dollar General and I just got like uh and every over-the-counter drug you uh and every over-the-counter drug you uh and every over-the-counter drug you can get. Oh and also let's go back can get. Oh and also let's go back can get. Oh and also let's go back because you know like when you get because you know like when you get because you know like when you get busted for drugs the narcs are going to busted for drugs the narcs are going to busted for drugs the narcs are going to pull you out at some point while you're pull you out at some point while you're pull you out at some point while you're in jail to try and like you know rattle in jail to try and like you know rattle in jail to try and like you know rattle you. you. you. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> And I'm thinking I'm good. I've got I >> And I'm thinking I'm good. I've got I >> And I'm thinking I'm good. I've got I had two different storage units and in had two different storage units and in had two different storage units and in one of these storage units I knew I had one of these storage units I knew I had one of these storage units I knew I had like 10 suboxone strips. So I was like like 10 suboxone strips. So I was like like 10 suboxone strips. So I was like cool I'll just get out. I'll get to the cool I'll just get out. I'll get to the cool I'll just get out. I'll get to the storage unit. It's going to be a breeze. storage unit. It's going to be a breeze. storage unit. It's going to be a breeze. I I can get through it. Well, the narc I I can get through it. Well, the narc I I can get through it. Well, the narc made sure to show me the cell phone made sure to show me the cell phone made sure to show me the cell phone photo cuz I guess he found a receipt of photo cuz I guess he found a receipt of photo cuz I guess he found a receipt of the storage unit and he showed me a the storage unit and he showed me a the storage unit and he showed me a picture of picture of picture of >> Jones. >> Jones. >> Jones. Oh, you Oh, you Oh, you >> He showed me a picture of the Suboxone >> He showed me a picture of the Suboxone >> He showed me a picture of the Suboxone strips and I was like, "This shit's strips and I was like, "This shit's strips and I was like, "This shit's about to get real." I was like, "Man, about to get real." I was like, "Man, about to get real." I was like, "Man, oh, oh, oh, >> no way out." >> no way out." >> no way out." >> Cuz I didn't have a phone. I didn't have >> Cuz I didn't have a phone. I didn't have >> Cuz I didn't have a phone. I didn't have a computer. They took all my [ __ ] All
09:00a computer. They took all my [ __ ] All a computer. They took all my [ __ ] All of it. of it. of it. >> Yeah. Um, it's basically I got arrested >> Yeah. Um, it's basically I got arrested >> Yeah. Um, it's basically I got arrested at one at at one spot and then they're at one at at one spot and then they're at one at at one spot and then they're like, "We're raiding your mom's house." like, "We're raiding your mom's house." like, "We're raiding your mom's house." It's like, "Okay." So, [ __ ] got real It's like, "Okay." So, [ __ ] got real It's like, "Okay." So, [ __ ] got real real fast. real fast. real fast. >> Um, so anyway, I get out, dad takes me >> Um, so anyway, I get out, dad takes me >> Um, so anyway, I get out, dad takes me to Dollar General, I go get Emodium and to Dollar General, I go get Emodium and to Dollar General, I go get Emodium and like instantly probably in Dollar like instantly probably in Dollar like instantly probably in Dollar General, I'm sure I took 10, you know, General, I'm sure I took 10, you know, General, I'm sure I took 10, you know, just like the only thing even close to just like the only thing even close to just like the only thing even close to any relief I'm going to get. Um, I any relief I'm going to get. Um, I any relief I'm going to get. Um, I remember going to Sonic and getting a remember going to Sonic and getting a remember going to Sonic and getting a large Coke and I was like I told myself large Coke and I was like I told myself large Coke and I was like I told myself I was like I will never ever have to I was like I will never ever have to I was like I will never ever have to deal with this again. Like I mean it was all the variables. I mean it was all the variables. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> It was the the the detox which the detox >> It was the the the detox which the detox >> It was the the the detox which the detox was just getting started. I mean really was just getting started. I mean really was just getting started. I mean really it was the how I felt about being it was the how I felt about being it was the how I felt about being arrested and just like exposed and I arrested and just like exposed and I arrested and just like exposed and I mean my and I'm and you know after I get mean my and I'm and you know after I get mean my and I'm and you know after I get out I learned that like my picture and out I learned that like my picture and out I learned that like my picture and my my story was on the front page of of my my story was on the front page of of my my story was on the front page of of the paper that I grew up in that the the paper that I grew up in that the the paper that I grew up in that the hometown that I grew up in. So it's like
10:00hometown that I grew up in. So it's like hometown that I grew up in. So it's like cool. And my mom was the only person cool. And my mom was the only person cool. And my mom was the only person left there in Laurel. So I really didn't left there in Laurel. So I really didn't left there in Laurel. So I really didn't have like a significant connection to have like a significant connection to have like a significant connection to Laurel anymore. So my dad comes and gets Laurel anymore. So my dad comes and gets Laurel anymore. So my dad comes and gets me he takes me to Brandon. Um he lives me he takes me to Brandon. Um he lives me he takes me to Brandon. Um he lives in Brandon. My stepmom was out of town. in Brandon. My stepmom was out of town. in Brandon. My stepmom was out of town. She didn't want me to be there anyway She didn't want me to be there anyway She didn't want me to be there anyway and she's like, "When when I get home on and she's like, "When when I get home on and she's like, "When when I get home on Sunday, he better not be here." And uh Sunday, he better not be here." And uh Sunday, he better not be here." And uh and I think I got out on a Friday. I and I think I got out on a Friday. I and I think I got out on a Friday. I remember sitting on the couch watching remember sitting on the couch watching remember sitting on the couch watching Mad Max with my dad trying to like Mad Max with my dad trying to like Mad Max with my dad trying to like pretend that I didn't feel like I'd been pretend that I didn't feel like I'd been pretend that I didn't feel like I'd been run over by an 18-wheeler, which I very run over by an 18-wheeler, which I very run over by an 18-wheeler, which I very much did feel that way. It was by far much did feel that way. It was by far much did feel that way. It was by far hands down the hardest thing I've ever hands down the hardest thing I've ever hands down the hardest thing I've ever had to do. Uh just getting through that. had to do. Uh just getting through that. had to do. Uh just getting through that. And honestly, I didn't know that like And honestly, I didn't know that like And honestly, I didn't know that like only now do I know that like 12step only now do I know that like 12step only now do I know that like 12step groups exist, rehab exists, you can buy groups exist, rehab exists, you can buy groups exist, rehab exists, you can buy your own health insurance. Like that your own health insurance. Like that your own health insurance. Like that would have been really convenient would have been really convenient would have been really convenient information to have then. information to have then. information to have then. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> So anyway, I'm bonded out. I'm at my >> So anyway, I'm bonded out. I'm at my >> So anyway, I'm bonded out. I'm at my dad's house. So about time that Sunday dad's house. So about time that Sunday dad's house. So about time that Sunday rolls around, he goes and he checks me
11:00rolls around, he goes and he checks me rolls around, he goes and he checks me into the Hilton in Pearl across from the into the Hilton in Pearl across from the into the Hilton in Pearl across from the movie theater. It had Continental movie theater. It had Continental movie theater. It had Continental Breakfast. It had like a I remember I Breakfast. It had like a I remember I Breakfast. It had like a I remember I had a bulged disc at that time. Like my had a bulged disc at that time. Like my had a bulged disc at that time. Like my back was jacked up. And uh it had a tub back was jacked up. And uh it had a tub back was jacked up. And uh it had a tub like a you know like a hot tub and uh so like a you know like a hot tub and uh so like a you know like a hot tub and uh so for the next week thug life soaking for the next week thug life soaking for the next week thug life soaking white knuckle I mean it was like train white knuckle I mean it was like train white knuckle I mean it was like train spotting you know so I sat there and and spotting you know so I sat there and and spotting you know so I sat there and and there would be days that I didn't have there would be days that I didn't have there would be days that I didn't have any energy and I could barely get up and any energy and I could barely get up and any energy and I could barely get up and go eat the continental breakfast or you go eat the continental breakfast or you go eat the continental breakfast or you know I didn't I think we got he bought know I didn't I think we got he bought know I didn't I think we got he bought me a burner phone from Walgreens and I me a burner phone from Walgreens and I me a burner phone from Walgreens and I had a couple bucks to my name and like I had a couple bucks to my name and like I had a couple bucks to my name and like I was just I I remember sitting up there was just I I remember sitting up there was just I I remember sitting up there watching a Bo Jackson documentary and watching a Bo Jackson documentary and watching a Bo Jackson documentary and crying my eyes out crying my eyes out crying my eyes out >> cuz like to be inspired in a moment >> cuz like to be inspired in a moment >> cuz like to be inspired in a moment where I wanted to die where I wanted to die where I wanted to die >> was just man that was I I needed that >> was just man that was I I needed that >> was just man that was I I needed that and like I never forgot that I never not and like I never forgot that I never not and like I never forgot that I never not knew who Bo Jackson was again and like knew who Bo Jackson was again and like knew who Bo Jackson was again and like just like being really into this this just like being really into this this just like being really into this this documentary and this this video and documentary and this this video and documentary and this this video and you're like it's hard to accept like is
12:00you're like it's hard to accept like is you're like it's hard to accept like is this the lowest I've ever been in my this the lowest I've ever been in my this the lowest I've ever been in my life. life. life. So So So anyway, um, so how much how how much anyway, um, so how much how how much anyway, um, so how much how how much detail you want me to go into like as detail you want me to go into like as detail you want me to go into like as far as my story or far as my story or far as my story or >> I mean I I think that that's a pretty >> I mean I I think that that's a pretty >> I mean I I think that that's a pretty good description of how bad it how bad good description of how bad it how bad good description of how bad it how bad it was, man. But since then, I mean, it was, man. But since then, I mean, it was, man. But since then, I mean, you've done some remarkable things. And you've done some remarkable things. And you've done some remarkable things. And I know for me, I have a very similar I know for me, I have a very similar I know for me, I have a very similar story. I was on the front page of my story. I was on the front page of my story. I was on the front page of my local paper on the news for some stuff local paper on the news for some stuff local paper on the news for some stuff that I did almost 25 years ago. It was that I did almost 25 years ago. It was that I did almost 25 years ago. It was changed my whole life. Lowest I've ever changed my whole life. Lowest I've ever changed my whole life. Lowest I've ever been. Just brutal. And like to fast been. Just brutal. And like to fast been. Just brutal. And like to fast forward 20 years and to be able to run a forward 20 years and to be able to run a forward 20 years and to be able to run a business with my wife that helps a lot business with my wife that helps a lot business with my wife that helps a lot of people, like there's so much of people, like there's so much of people, like there's so much different stuff. I'd love to talk to you different stuff. I'd love to talk to you different stuff. I'd love to talk to you about like how do we go from how do we about like how do we go from how do we about like how do we go from how do we go from how do we go from there to like, go from how do we go from there to like, go from how do we go from there to like, yeah, we got this cool business that a yeah, we got this cool business that a yeah, we got this cool business that a lot of people are helped by and we enjoy lot of people are helped by and we enjoy lot of people are helped by and we enjoy doing because there's a lot of people doing because there's a lot of people doing because there's a lot of people listening that are sitting there and listening that are sitting there and listening that are sitting there and they're they're they're just right where they're they're they're just right where they're they're they're just right where we were where you were at the Hilton we were where you were at the Hilton we were where you were at the Hilton where I was 20 years ago going, where I was 20 years ago going, where I was 20 years ago going, >> "How do I make my life? How do I get >> "How do I make my life? How do I get >> "How do I make my life? How do I get there?" And I don't know, hearing our there?" And I don't know, hearing our there?" And I don't know, hearing our stories and kind of what it was like and
13:00stories and kind of what it was like and stories and kind of what it was like and how what we're doing now. It's not all how what we're doing now. It's not all how what we're doing now. It's not all rosy, but uh I don't know. I'm I'm super rosy, but uh I don't know. I'm I'm super rosy, but uh I don't know. I'm I'm super interested in and and really talking interested in and and really talking interested in and and really talking about the business that you got going on about the business that you got going on about the business that you got going on now because you you really are you're now because you you really are you're now because you you really are you're helping a whole lot of people in the helping a whole lot of people in the helping a whole lot of people in the same spots and I'm walking into people same spots and I'm walking into people same spots and I'm walking into people every day that are coming off a detox or every day that are coming off a detox or every day that are coming off a detox or coming out of treatment or they're coming out of treatment or they're coming out of treatment or they're working with a counselor or therapist working with a counselor or therapist working with a counselor or therapist that I know. They're like, "Hey, we've that I know. They're like, "Hey, we've that I know. They're like, "Hey, we've been recommended to come over here and been recommended to come over here and been recommended to come over here and jump in the cold plunge." Um so tell me jump in the cold plunge." Um so tell me jump in the cold plunge." Um so tell me like what attracted you to that like what attracted you to that like what attracted you to that business? So, you know, I've got the business? So, you know, I've got the business? So, you know, I've got the retail spot. So, around the time that retail spot. So, around the time that retail spot. So, around the time that the pandemic hit, so basically, long the pandemic hit, so basically, long the pandemic hit, so basically, long story short, I over the span over the story short, I over the span over the story short, I over the span over the span of from that moment for the next span of from that moment for the next span of from that moment for the next five or six years, you know, I did the five or six years, you know, I did the five or six years, you know, I did the whole house arrest probation thing and whole house arrest probation thing and whole house arrest probation thing and and I ended up uh in Jackson, and this and I ended up uh in Jackson, and this and I ended up uh in Jackson, and this was like 2018, 2019. I was an in-house was like 2018, 2019. I was an in-house was like 2018, 2019. I was an in-house photographer, videographer for an local photographer, videographer for an local photographer, videographer for an local ad agency. And needless to say, that ad agency. And needless to say, that ad agency. And needless to say, that didn't work out. And then I was didn't work out. And then I was didn't work out. And then I was unemployed. And then I uh about the time unemployed. And then I uh about the time unemployed. And then I uh about the time the farm bill passed the all the CBD the farm bill passed the all the CBD the farm bill passed the all the CBD stuff and everything. So I started a CBD
14:00stuff and everything. So I started a CBD stuff and everything. So I started a CBD store. And that was like my I call that store. And that was like my I call that store. And that was like my I call that my introduction to adulting. my introduction to adulting. my introduction to adulting. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Uh like I was starting to learn more >> Uh like I was starting to learn more >> Uh like I was starting to learn more about business and and just like about business and and just like about business and and just like entrepreneurship. entrepreneurship. entrepreneurship. Um and and you know it's like you got to Um and and you know it's like you got to Um and and you know it's like you got to plan ahead as you know like you how you plan ahead as you know like you how you plan ahead as you know like you how you guys like what your business models are, guys like what your business models are, guys like what your business models are, properties, etc., etc. Like you just got properties, etc., etc. Like you just got properties, etc., etc. Like you just got to be on your feet and figure out what's to be on your feet and figure out what's to be on your feet and figure out what's your next move. So, I did that for three your next move. So, I did that for three your next move. So, I did that for three or four years. Um, which it still or four years. Um, which it still or four years. Um, which it still exists, but it's not the same that it exists, but it's not the same that it exists, but it's not the same that it once was. Um, and then I came across once was. Um, and then I came across once was. Um, and then I came across this like this like this like >> the the uh the Cold Plone stuff. >> the the uh the Cold Plone stuff. >> the the uh the Cold Plone stuff. >> Were you just like scrolling? Were you >> Were you just like scrolling? Were you >> Were you just like scrolling? Were you talking to some folks? talking to some folks? talking to some folks? >> Well, you know, originally I was like I >> Well, you know, originally I was like I >> Well, you know, originally I was like I thought I wanted to get back into the thought I wanted to get back into the thought I wanted to get back into the same business I was in. Yeah. same business I was in. Yeah. same business I was in. Yeah. >> You know, can I like go into that? You >> You know, can I like go into that? You >> You know, can I like go into that? You want me to Yeah. want me to Yeah. want me to Yeah. >> Yeah. Like I I I was like I want to open >> Yeah. Like I I I was like I want to open >> Yeah. Like I I I was like I want to open a dispensary cuz I saw all this stuff a dispensary cuz I saw all this stuff a dispensary cuz I saw all this stuff popping up and I'm like in the holistic popping up and I'm like in the holistic popping up and I'm like in the holistic space and then space and then space and then >> I started kind of running the numbers on >> I started kind of running the numbers on >> I started kind of running the numbers on it and it's just like I don't think this it and it's just like I don't think this it and it's just like I don't think this is where my heart is anymore. is where my heart is anymore. is where my heart is anymore. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> It's just not >> It's just not >> It's just not >> it's like I don't know. And I'm not
15:00>> it's like I don't know. And I'm not >> it's like I don't know. And I'm not dogging the dispensary life. I'm just dogging the dispensary life. I'm just dogging the dispensary life. I'm just saying like I just want to I want to saying like I just want to I want to saying like I just want to I want to check in. I don't want to check out. check in. I don't want to check out. check in. I don't want to check out. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> You know what I mean? Like and it helps >> You know what I mean? Like and it helps >> You know what I mean? Like and it helps a lot of people but this is more of a a lot of people but this is more of a a lot of people but this is more of a holistic a real holistic thing. I mean holistic a real holistic thing. I mean holistic a real holistic thing. I mean it's pretty basic. So, I was scrolling it's pretty basic. So, I was scrolling it's pretty basic. So, I was scrolling on businesses for sale and I found this on businesses for sale and I found this on businesses for sale and I found this idea and I was like, "Okay, this is idea and I was like, "Okay, this is idea and I was like, "Okay, this is something." something." something." >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> And I had been out to uh to Lighthouse, >> And I had been out to uh to Lighthouse, >> And I had been out to uh to Lighthouse, Zach's spot a couple of times and and Zach's spot a couple of times and and Zach's spot a couple of times and and done an ice bath. done an ice bath. done an ice bath. >> And so, I was definitely interested in >> And so, I was definitely interested in >> And so, I was definitely interested in it. And I I didn't realize that like it. And I I didn't realize that like it. And I I didn't realize that like there was a whole universe of this there was a whole universe of this there was a whole universe of this holistic space where people were doing holistic space where people were doing holistic space where people were doing contrast therapy and using all this contrast therapy and using all this contrast therapy and using all this stuff to kind of like dial in and stuff to kind of like dial in and stuff to kind of like dial in and optimize their lifestyles. optimize their lifestyles. optimize their lifestyles. >> Yeah. So then that's when I started >> Yeah. So then that's when I started >> Yeah. So then that's when I started working on that project and uh I started working on that project and uh I started working on that project and uh I started figuring out, you know, and and I had a figuring out, you know, and and I had a figuring out, you know, and and I had a better relationship with my bank and all better relationship with my bank and all better relationship with my bank and all that kind of stuff. So I was like this that kind of stuff. So I was like this that kind of stuff. So I was like this could actually be doable and it seems could actually be doable and it seems could actually be doable and it seems stable and like this particular industry stable and like this particular industry stable and like this particular industry in general is is blowing up and and like in general is is blowing up and and like in general is is blowing up and and like people like us like they're people like us like they're people like us like they're >> it's a non-negotiable when it comes to
16:00>> it's a non-negotiable when it comes to >> it's a non-negotiable when it comes to your your your personal well-being and your your your personal well-being and your your your personal well-being and emotional well-being. It's like I mean emotional well-being. It's like I mean emotional well-being. It's like I mean if this if I didn't have this if it if this if I didn't have this if it if this if I didn't have this if it would have popped up exactly where it would have popped up exactly where it would have popped up exactly where it did I could buy everything and put it in did I could buy everything and put it in did I could buy everything and put it in my house. my house. my house. >> Me and you would still be in the sauna >> Me and you would still be in the sauna >> Me and you would still be in the sauna there together there together there together >> you know. >> you know. >> you know. >> Yeah. That's one of the things about >> Yeah. That's one of the things about >> Yeah. That's one of the things about being in Jackson is like because we are being in Jackson is like because we are being in Jackson is like because we are kind of behind we get to bring things kind of behind we get to bring things kind of behind we get to bring things that other people aren't doing yet. And that other people aren't doing yet. And that other people aren't doing yet. And it's and not only do we benefit from it's and not only do we benefit from it's and not only do we benefit from bringing something really really cool we bringing something really really cool we bringing something really really cool we being first being first being first >> like setting that up. And you did that >> like setting that up. And you did that >> like setting that up. And you did that with with with with Russian Recovery. with with with with Russian Recovery. with with with with Russian Recovery. >> Well and you know I did a little >> Well and you know I did a little >> Well and you know I did a little research and I was an OG Hot Works research and I was an OG Hot Works research and I was an OG Hot Works member. So, like in 2019, 2020, I was member. So, like in 2019, 2020, I was member. So, like in 2019, 2020, I was one of the first ones to sign up. I one of the first ones to sign up. I one of the first ones to sign up. I remember I I have a I have a friend now remember I I have a I have a friend now remember I I have a I have a friend now who's like she's a breast recovery who's like she's a breast recovery who's like she's a breast recovery member, but her and I used to compete member, but her and I used to compete member, but her and I used to compete like you would have an app and you go to like you would have an app and you go to like you would have an app and you go to Hotworks and you get points. You get Hotworks and you get points. You get Hotworks and you get points. You get points for doing your workouts and you points for doing your workouts and you points for doing your workouts and you track it on your watch and her and I track it on your watch and her and I track it on your watch and her and I would go between like four, third and would go between like four, third and would go between like four, third and fourth, third and fourth, third and fourth, third and fourth, third and fourth, third and fourth, third and fourth because the people that were fourth because the people that were fourth because the people that were first and second like you're not keeping first and second like you're not keeping first and second like you're not keeping up with them. they were like a h 100,000 up with them. they were like a h 100,000 up with them. they were like a h 100,000 80,000 then we're over here like 32 33
17:0080,000 then we're over here like 32 33 80,000 then we're over here like 32 33 32 you know like and so I just think the 32 you know like and so I just think the 32 you know like and so I just think the irony that like that now she's a member irony that like that now she's a member irony that like that now she's a member at rest recovery but I was really into at rest recovery but I was really into at rest recovery but I was really into the sauna thing and I was like okay this the sauna thing and I was like okay this the sauna thing and I was like okay this is cool but something with that was is cool but something with that was is cool but something with that was missing it's like okay this is cool missing it's like okay this is cool missing it's like okay this is cool you're working out in the sauna but like you're working out in the sauna but like you're working out in the sauna but like what else I didn't even realize that what else I didn't even realize that what else I didn't even realize that there was this whole other world of cold there was this whole other world of cold there was this whole other world of cold exposure that you could add to this and exposure that you could add to this and exposure that you could add to this and like the red light and everything like like the red light and everything like like the red light and everything like that so that so that so >> yeah and I think just kind of like >> yeah and I think just kind of like >> yeah and I think just kind of like >> you knowing that that exists and then >> you knowing that that exists and then >> you knowing that that exists and then like you might have a sauna at a gym and like you might have a sauna at a gym and like you might have a sauna at a gym and then you might have like a cold plunge then you might have like a cold plunge then you might have like a cold plunge at the health plex and like everyone has at the health plex and like everyone has at the health plex and like everyone has like had a cold plunge experience but to like had a cold plunge experience but to like had a cold plunge experience but to create and have something that's create and have something that's create and have something that's exclusively exclusively exclusively not in a gym that's not about working not in a gym that's not about working not in a gym that's not about working out that's like hey go out after this or out that's like hey go out after this or out that's like hey go out after this or go work out or or or you know work out go work out or or or you know work out go work out or or or you know work out beforehand and come here. Um, and to put beforehand and come here. Um, and to put beforehand and come here. Um, and to put it all in one space, I think that kind it all in one space, I think that kind it all in one space, I think that kind of like consolidates the experience and of like consolidates the experience and of like consolidates the experience and and and also like it softens the noise. and and also like it softens the noise. and and also like it softens the noise. You go into a gym and you want to use a You go into a gym and you want to use a You go into a gym and you want to use a sauna, there's a lot going on, there's sauna, there's a lot going on, there's sauna, there's a lot going on, there's music playing, blah blah blah. Like
18:00music playing, blah blah blah. Like music playing, blah blah blah. Like whereas with us, it's kind of more like whereas with us, it's kind of more like whereas with us, it's kind of more like a it's a spa vibe as you know, like it's a it's a spa vibe as you know, like it's a it's a spa vibe as you know, like it's it's it's it's just meant to be like low it's it's it's just meant to be like low it's it's it's just meant to be like low not like low energy, but just, not like low energy, but just, not like low energy, but just, >> you know, it's more of a delicate >> you know, it's more of a delicate >> you know, it's more of a delicate process. You're not coming in there to process. You're not coming in there to process. You're not coming in there to work out. Yeah. you're coming in there work out. Yeah. you're coming in there work out. Yeah. you're coming in there to just like kind of sit with yourself, to just like kind of sit with yourself, to just like kind of sit with yourself, >> which I think is really powerful. And to >> which I think is really powerful. And to >> which I think is really powerful. And to be frank, dude, like I've evolved in the be frank, dude, like I've evolved in the be frank, dude, like I've evolved in the past six months. past six months. past six months. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Like I didn't I mean, of course, I >> Like I didn't I mean, of course, I >> Like I didn't I mean, of course, I always say be the example that you want always say be the example that you want always say be the example that you want to set. Like I have to be the example I to set. Like I have to be the example I to set. Like I have to be the example I want to set for myself. This person that want to set for myself. This person that want to set for myself. This person that exists in my head that's like does all exists in my head that's like does all exists in my head that's like does all these things. Like I need to be that. these things. Like I need to be that. these things. Like I need to be that. So, like I'm not going to sit here and So, like I'm not going to sit here and So, like I'm not going to sit here and be doing all this stuff or or have this be doing all this stuff or or have this be doing all this stuff or or have this stuff and be like, "Oh, yeah. This is stuff and be like, "Oh, yeah. This is stuff and be like, "Oh, yeah. This is cool. Have fun. Enjoy." If you don't see cool. Have fun. Enjoy." If you don't see cool. Have fun. Enjoy." If you don't see me in there like on the verge of crying me in there like on the verge of crying me in there like on the verge of crying or praying or looking like I am about to or praying or looking like I am about to or praying or looking like I am about to lose it cuz I'm in 38°ree water or lose it cuz I'm in 38°ree water or lose it cuz I'm in 38°ree water or whatever. I've been in the sauna for 40 whatever. I've been in the sauna for 40 whatever. I've been in the sauna for 40 minutes. Like something's off. minutes. Like something's off. minutes. Like something's off. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Like I need to I need it too. And like I
19:00>> Like I need to I need it too. And like I >> Like I need to I need it too. And like I don't know. It's become a part of like don't know. It's become a part of like don't know. It's become a part of like my whole emotional, spiritual, you know, my whole emotional, spiritual, you know, my whole emotional, spiritual, you know, just physical practice, which I'm like just physical practice, which I'm like just physical practice, which I'm like over the moon about. Yeah. over the moon about. Yeah. over the moon about. Yeah. >> Yeah. One of the things that's hard in >> Yeah. One of the things that's hard in >> Yeah. One of the things that's hard in my 12step work is we kind we have the 12 my 12step work is we kind we have the 12 my 12step work is we kind we have the 12 steps and we kind of glance over step steps and we kind of glance over step steps and we kind of glance over step 11, which is seeking through prayer and 11, which is seeking through prayer and 11, which is seeking through prayer and meditation to improve our conscious meditation to improve our conscious meditation to improve our conscious contact with God as we understand them. contact with God as we understand them. contact with God as we understand them. It's really easy for us to talk about It's really easy for us to talk about It's really easy for us to talk about meditation and kind of just be like meditation and kind of just be like meditation and kind of just be like reading something out of a book. We some reading something out of a book. We some reading something out of a book. We some people do practice some legit people do practice some legit people do practice some legit meditation, but very very few get the meditation, but very very few get the meditation, but very very few get the opportunity to do some of the stuff that opportunity to do some of the stuff that opportunity to do some of the stuff that we get to do at rest and recovery. Like we get to do at rest and recovery. Like we get to do at rest and recovery. Like really go in there, jump in a cold really go in there, jump in a cold really go in there, jump in a cold plunge, and really hit like an inner plunge, and really hit like an inner plunge, and really hit like an inner wall and be like, I want to get out of wall and be like, I want to get out of wall and be like, I want to get out of this uncomfortable situation right now. this uncomfortable situation right now. this uncomfortable situation right now. I want to leave. I want to get out and I want to leave. I want to get out and I want to leave. I want to get out and like, nope, I'm going to sit there 30 like, nope, I'm going to sit there 30 like, nope, I'm going to sit there 30 seconds. That's what my addiction was. seconds. That's what my addiction was. seconds. That's what my addiction was. My addiction was I want to change the My addiction was I want to change the My addiction was I want to change the way I feel. So, I'd put something in me. way I feel. So, I'd put something in me. way I feel. So, I'd put something in me. I'd put something in me. I'd do I'd put something in me. I'd do I'd put something in me. I'd do something. I was always addicted to something. I was always addicted to something. I was always addicted to changing the way I feel. When you say changing the way I feel. When you say changing the way I feel. When you say you're going to get in the ice water for you're going to get in the ice water for you're going to get in the ice water for 3 minutes, you're literally learning 3 minutes, you're literally learning 3 minutes, you're literally learning every 30 seconds. No, I don't. I can every 30 seconds. No, I don't. I can every 30 seconds. No, I don't. I can tolerate I can tolerate pain. I can
20:00tolerate I can tolerate pain. I can tolerate I can tolerate pain. I can tolerate discomfort. I can sit here in a tolerate discomfort. I can sit here in a tolerate discomfort. I can sit here in a meditative state, focus on my breathing, meditative state, focus on my breathing, meditative state, focus on my breathing, do what I need to do. And it's like do what I need to do. And it's like do what I need to do. And it's like >> it's added for me. It's like a place >> it's added for me. It's like a place >> it's added for me. It's like a place that I get to go do my step 11. When I that I get to go do my step 11. When I that I get to go do my step 11. When I sit in the sauna and I'm just like sit in the sauna and I'm just like sit in the sauna and I'm just like breathing in the air and I'm like it's breathing in the air and I'm like it's breathing in the air and I'm like it's so freaking hot in here. I'm breathing so freaking hot in here. I'm breathing so freaking hot in here. I'm breathing in, I'm breathing out, but I'm just in, I'm breathing out, but I'm just in, I'm breathing out, but I'm just sitting there for 10 minutes and just sitting there for 10 minutes and just sitting there for 10 minutes and just thinking about nothing. Just thinking thinking about nothing. Just thinking thinking about nothing. Just thinking about my breath and trying not to move. about my breath and trying not to move. about my breath and trying not to move. I don't get to do that kind of I don't get to do that kind of I don't get to do that kind of meditative work that I think the 12 meditative work that I think the 12 meditative work that I think the 12 steps want us to do, but we just don't steps want us to do, but we just don't steps want us to do, but we just don't have environments to do it in places have environments to do it in places have environments to do it in places that it's kind of accessible. I think that it's kind of accessible. I think that it's kind of accessible. I think that's why I bump into so many of my that's why I bump into so many of my that's why I bump into so many of my 12step homies in there. I'm talking 12step homies in there. I'm talking 12step homies in there. I'm talking about every time I go in there, we could about every time I go in there, we could about every time I go in there, we could start passing the basket and reading the start passing the basket and reading the start passing the basket and reading the surrender. I'm mean, it's always go. I surrender. I'm mean, it's always go. I surrender. I'm mean, it's always go. I mean, well, I mean, Daniel, you were mean, well, I mean, Daniel, you were mean, well, I mean, Daniel, you were you're the legend of 365 in a day, you're the legend of 365 in a day, you're the legend of 365 in a day, right? I mean, 365. I mean, Copeland, I right? I mean, 365. I mean, Copeland, I right? I mean, 365. I mean, Copeland, I mean, the thing is real. It's got real mean, the thing is real. It's got real mean, the thing is real. It's got real benefits. But every time I go in there, benefits. But every time I go in there, benefits. But every time I go in there, I'm seeing 12step people. They love it. I'm seeing 12step people. They love it. I'm seeing 12step people. They love it. Can you tell me? I'm not into the Can you tell me? I'm not into the Can you tell me? I'm not into the science. I just know it's working for science. I just know it's working for science. I just know it's working for me. Can you tell me a little bit about me. Can you tell me a little bit about me. Can you tell me a little bit about the science behind some of the tools the science behind some of the tools the science behind some of the tools that you got in there?
21:00that you got in there? that you got in there? >> Yeah. So, yeah, and and >> Yeah. So, yeah, and and >> Yeah. So, yeah, and and uh you know, I know you and I have uh you know, I know you and I have uh you know, I know you and I have talked about this before. I think the talked about this before. I think the talked about this before. I think the common denominator and why it's become common denominator and why it's become common denominator and why it's become such a melting pot of different types of such a melting pot of different types of such a melting pot of different types of people especially like in recovery and people especially like in recovery and people especially like in recovery and in in the you know exercise and athletic in in the you know exercise and athletic in in the you know exercise and athletic space is like common denominator is we space is like common denominator is we space is like common denominator is we want to better ourselves optimize our want to better ourselves optimize our want to better ourselves optimize our lives. lives. lives. >> Um so that's it's it seems like that >> Um so that's it's it seems like that >> Um so that's it's it seems like that when you have that you just have like when you have that you just have like when you have that you just have like such an eclectic group of people that such an eclectic group of people that such an eclectic group of people that come together. Um so okay the science is come together. Um so okay the science is come together. Um so okay the science is so essentially you got the sauna so we so essentially you got the sauna so we so essentially you got the sauna so we do contrast therapy. So, we start hot, do contrast therapy. So, we start hot, do contrast therapy. So, we start hot, start in the sauna, then we do a cold start in the sauna, then we do a cold start in the sauna, then we do a cold plunge, back in the sauna, then we do a plunge, back in the sauna, then we do a plunge, back in the sauna, then we do a cold plunge, then we do red light. Um, cold plunge, then we do red light. Um, cold plunge, then we do red light. Um, and it's kind of like shocking your and it's kind of like shocking your and it's kind of like shocking your body. So, you know, you got you got the body. So, you know, you got you got the body. So, you know, you got you got the sauna, which the sauna is going to help sauna, which the sauna is going to help sauna, which the sauna is going to help you detox, get toxins out. It's going to you detox, get toxins out. It's going to you detox, get toxins out. It's going to really improve your circulation and your really improve your circulation and your really improve your circulation and your cardiovascular health. Um, then you hop cardiovascular health. Um, then you hop cardiovascular health. Um, then you hop out of there and you get in the cold out of there and you get in the cold out of there and you get in the cold plunge. So then you got that plunge. So then you got that plunge. So then you got that norepinephrine and dopamine release and norepinephrine and dopamine release and norepinephrine and dopamine release and the cold shock proteins and then your,
22:00the cold shock proteins and then your, the cold shock proteins and then your, you know, it's the like your thermal, you know, it's the like your thermal, you know, it's the like your thermal, it's like your your brown fat burns it's like your your brown fat burns it's like your your brown fat burns because it's like your body's like, "Oh, because it's like your body's like, "Oh, because it's like your body's like, "Oh, it's cold. What do I do?" So then it's it's cold. What do I do?" So then it's it's cold. What do I do?" So then it's like this calorie burning thing kicks like this calorie burning thing kicks like this calorie burning thing kicks in. Um, so we start in the infrared and in. Um, so we start in the infrared and in. Um, so we start in the infrared and then we do cold. And then I know I know then we do cold. And then I know I know then we do cold. And then I know I know you kind of have your own routine and I you kind of have your own routine and I you kind of have your own routine and I do too, but I go back and forth between do too, but I go back and forth between do too, but I go back and forth between the infrared. The infrared uses light to the infrared. The infrared uses light to the infrared. The infrared uses light to heat within. It's a little bit more. heat within. It's a little bit more. heat within. It's a little bit more. There's more scientific studies done There's more scientific studies done There's more scientific studies done behind it. Um, it's the most popular behind it. Um, it's the most popular behind it. Um, it's the most popular now, but it gets to about 150. The now, but it gets to about 150. The now, but it gets to about 150. The traditional, as I always call it, the traditional, as I always call it, the traditional, as I always call it, the Arnold Schwarzenegger sauna. Um, that's Arnold Schwarzenegger sauna. Um, that's Arnold Schwarzenegger sauna. Um, that's like, you know, 200. And I think I think like, you know, 200. And I think I think like, you know, 200. And I think I think the emotional us emotional crackheads, the emotional us emotional crackheads, the emotional us emotional crackheads, you can catch us in there for like 30 to you can catch us in there for like 30 to you can catch us in there for like 30 to 40 minutes. And it's just like, 40 minutes. And it's just like, 40 minutes. And it's just like, >> dude, >> dude, >> dude, >> man, I ain't seen any person that I know >> man, I ain't seen any person that I know >> man, I ain't seen any person that I know that's an emotional crackhead look like that's an emotional crackhead look like that's an emotional crackhead look like they're okay they're okay they're okay >> 25 to 30 minutes in there, >> 25 to 30 minutes in there, >> 25 to 30 minutes in there, >> which I definitely identify as one. Um, >> which I definitely identify as one. Um, >> which I definitely identify as one. Um, and then that obviously the hot is just and then that obviously the hot is just and then that obviously the hot is just it's a different it's a different it's a different it's a different it's a different it's a different feeling. I mean, you're you're just feeling. I mean, you're you're just feeling. I mean, you're you're just you're pretty much just sweating it all
23:00you're pretty much just sweating it all you're pretty much just sweating it all out. Um, but yeah, you know, so out. Um, but yeah, you know, so out. Um, but yeah, you know, so combining all those things really just combining all those things really just combining all those things really just like overall, I mean, it just it's like like overall, I mean, it just it's like like overall, I mean, it just it's like a purge. Like you're purging any toxin. a purge. Like you're purging any toxin. a purge. Like you're purging any toxin. You're you're getting your You're you're getting your You're you're getting your cardiovascular up, you know? You're just cardiovascular up, you know? You're just cardiovascular up, you know? You're just like shocking your body. And I always like shocking your body. And I always like shocking your body. And I always say cuz I see like stuff come up on say cuz I see like stuff come up on say cuz I see like stuff come up on Instagram that's like, you know, this is Instagram that's like, you know, this is Instagram that's like, you know, this is about cold plunging that's like about cold plunging that's like about cold plunging that's like anti-science to say, "Okay, so I want to anti-science to say, "Okay, so I want to anti-science to say, "Okay, so I want to clarify something about coal plunging." clarify something about coal plunging." clarify something about coal plunging." If you're trying to be a bodybuilder and If you're trying to be a bodybuilder and If you're trying to be a bodybuilder and you're trying to grow your biceps, you're trying to grow your biceps, you're trying to grow your biceps, tries, traps, whatever. Like just do tries, traps, whatever. Like just do tries, traps, whatever. Like just do your routine before you go to the gym. your routine before you go to the gym. your routine before you go to the gym. Like obviously your your muscles need to Like obviously your your muscles need to Like obviously your your muscles need to tear, your muscles need to be inflamed tear, your muscles need to be inflamed tear, your muscles need to be inflamed to get gains. Like is it an end all to get gains. Like is it an end all to get gains. Like is it an end all beall? Not necessarily. So, you're not beall? Not necessarily. So, you're not beall? Not necessarily. So, you're not going to not be strong if you do if you going to not be strong if you do if you going to not be strong if you do if you go do a burnout chest workout and then go do a burnout chest workout and then go do a burnout chest workout and then you cold plunge. But ideally, you would you cold plunge. But ideally, you would you cold plunge. But ideally, you would do your contrast therapy beforehand and do your contrast therapy beforehand and do your contrast therapy beforehand and then go to the gym. But anyway, I always then go to the gym. But anyway, I always then go to the gym. But anyway, I always say, I mean, forget the the scientific say, I mean, forget the the scientific say, I mean, forget the the scientific studies, pull out a DBT card, write studies, pull out a DBT card, write studies, pull out a DBT card, write about how your thoughts are
24:00about how your thoughts are about how your thoughts are >> after you do this whole routine or you >> after you do this whole routine or you >> after you do this whole routine or you do a cold plunge. I have not seen do a cold plunge. I have not seen do a cold plunge. I have not seen anything about mental health studies on anything about mental health studies on anything about mental health studies on the cold plunge. I mean, yeah, the cold plunge. I mean, yeah, the cold plunge. I mean, yeah, >> dude. That's what it's all about for me. >> dude. That's what it's all about for me. >> dude. That's what it's all about for me. It's not the like it's not the physical, It's not the like it's not the physical, It's not the like it's not the physical, it's the like you sit in there, like you it's the like you sit in there, like you it's the like you sit in there, like you touched on, like you sit in there touched on, like you sit in there touched on, like you sit in there >> and your your body is literally telling >> and your your body is literally telling >> and your your body is literally telling you that you're going to die. Like you that you're going to die. Like you that you're going to die. Like there's no like your body is saying, there's no like your body is saying, there's no like your body is saying, "Holy shit." Like, "We need to get out "Holy shit." Like, "We need to get out "Holy shit." Like, "We need to get out of here immediately or we're going to of here immediately or we're going to of here immediately or we're going to die." die." die." >> Um, and and there's something about >> Um, and and there's something about >> Um, and and there's something about pushing through that and saying, "No, pushing through that and saying, "No, pushing through that and saying, "No, >> we're okay. We're not in danger. We're >> we're okay. We're not in danger. We're >> we're okay. We're not in danger. We're going to be okay." Something about going to be okay." Something about going to be okay." Something about pushing through that, it it sets the pushing through that, it it sets the pushing through that, it it sets the tone for everything else in your life tone for everything else in your life tone for everything else in your life because you now believe and you know because you now believe and you know because you now believe and you know that if you push through this, you're that if you push through this, you're that if you push through this, you're going to feel better on the other side going to feel better on the other side going to feel better on the other side of it. And it happens every single time. of it. And it happens every single time. of it. And it happens every single time. >> Every time. Well, and I will say that >> Every time. Well, and I will say that >> Every time. Well, and I will say that like the emotional regulation that you like the emotional regulation that you like the emotional regulation that you can get from the cold plunge is can get from the cold plunge is can get from the cold plunge is unrivaled. I can't tell you how many unrivaled. I can't tell you how many unrivaled. I can't tell you how many times and that I come into my space like times and that I come into my space like times and that I come into my space like and I'm unregulated all the time and
25:00and I'm unregulated all the time and and I'm unregulated all the time and then it's like I sat there earlier and I then it's like I sat there earlier and I then it's like I sat there earlier and I stared at that 38 degree plunge and I stared at that 38 degree plunge and I stared at that 38 degree plunge and I was like man I don't want to do this was like man I don't want to do this was like man I don't want to do this [ __ ] [ __ ] [ __ ] but then I sat in there for five minutes but then I sat in there for five minutes but then I sat in there for five minutes and it's like where did that come from? and it's like where did that come from? and it's like where did that come from? >> Then I and then I get out of it I just >> Then I and then I get out of it I just >> Then I and then I get out of it I just like just feel different. It's like it like just feel different. It's like it like just feel different. It's like it just forces you to like sit with just forces you to like sit with just forces you to like sit with yourself. And I think especially if yourself. And I think especially if yourself. And I think especially if you're in that space where you can kind you're in that space where you can kind you're in that space where you can kind of weave yourself in and out of of weave yourself in and out of of weave yourself in and out of these emotions and survival modes, if these emotions and survival modes, if these emotions and survival modes, if you're not like too far in survival you're not like too far in survival you're not like too far in survival mode, but sometimes that's helpful. I mode, but sometimes that's helpful. I mode, but sometimes that's helpful. I mean, and and I think it's a case by mean, and and I think it's a case by mean, and and I think it's a case by case basis per person. You have to kind case basis per person. You have to kind case basis per person. You have to kind of decide what's what your body needs. of decide what's what your body needs. of decide what's what your body needs. You have to listen to your body and You have to listen to your body and You have to listen to your body and listen to your mind. But so anyway, listen to your mind. But so anyway, listen to your mind. But so anyway, weaving back into the final thing we do weaving back into the final thing we do weaving back into the final thing we do in the contrast therapy, which is red in the contrast therapy, which is red in the contrast therapy, which is red light. So red light was actually it's light. So red light was actually it's light. So red light was actually it's actually been around for a while, but it actually been around for a while, but it actually been around for a while, but it was kind of like retrofitted or or was kind of like retrofitted or or was kind of like retrofitted or or advanced in the '9s from NASA so the advanced in the '9s from NASA so the advanced in the '9s from NASA so the astronauts could heal faster. Um because astronauts could heal faster. Um because astronauts could heal faster. Um because essentially, you know, you're not
26:00essentially, you know, you're not essentially, you know, you're not orbiting anything specifically. So it's orbiting anything specifically. So it's orbiting anything specifically. So it's kind of like a it's kind of like a kind of like a it's kind of like a kind of like a it's kind of like a sunlight like source without UV. I I sunlight like source without UV. I I sunlight like source without UV. I I don't know. But essentially it's like in don't know. But essentially it's like in don't know. But essentially it's like in our panels, you know, you got near our panels, you know, you got near our panels, you know, you got near infrared and red light. And so it's like infrared and red light. And so it's like infrared and red light. And so it's like every other it's near infrared, but what every other it's near infrared, but what every other it's near infrared, but what it does is it hits the mitochondria of it does is it hits the mitochondria of it does is it hits the mitochondria of the cell and then and then it circulates the cell and then and then it circulates the cell and then and then it circulates red blood cells to bring to the sightes red blood cells to bring to the sightes red blood cells to bring to the sightes and then you just have more circulation. and then you just have more circulation. and then you just have more circulation. It helps with inflammation, helps with It helps with inflammation, helps with It helps with inflammation, helps with sleep. Um they actually use red light in sleep. Um they actually use red light in sleep. Um they actually use red light in uh battleships because it's like it uh battleships because it's like it uh battleships because it's like it doesn't affect your circadian biology doesn't affect your circadian biology doesn't affect your circadian biology and like so if you ever see a situation and like so if you ever see a situation and like so if you ever see a situation where there's like low red light, that's where there's like low red light, that's where there's like low red light, that's why cuz like with all these LED lights why cuz like with all these LED lights why cuz like with all these LED lights and stuff, your body's like, you know, I and stuff, your body's like, you know, I and stuff, your body's like, you know, I don't know how many million times Yeah. don't know how many million times Yeah. don't know how many million times Yeah. it it flickers a minute or an hour or it it flickers a minute or an hour or it it flickers a minute or an hour or whatever, but like you you're am I whatever, but like you you're am I whatever, but like you you're am I supposed to go to sleep? Like your supposed to go to sleep? Like your supposed to go to sleep? Like your body's confused. So that's that's a body's confused. So that's that's a body's confused. So that's that's a thing like people setting up red actual thing like people setting up red actual thing like people setting up red actual red lights and red light bulbs in their red lights and red light bulbs in their red lights and red light bulbs in their house after the sun goes down cuz it house after the sun goes down cuz it house after the sun goes down cuz it your body doesn't get confused. your body doesn't get confused. your body doesn't get confused. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> But yeah, so that's the contrast therapy
27:00>> But yeah, so that's the contrast therapy >> But yeah, so that's the contrast therapy that we normally prescribe in the that we normally prescribe in the that we normally prescribe in the recover like in that that particular recover like in that that particular recover like in that that particular modality. And then obviously, as you modality. And then obviously, as you modality. And then obviously, as you know, we've got the deprivation tank, know, we've got the deprivation tank, know, we've got the deprivation tank, which is a which is a float tank, which which is a which is a float tank, which which is a which is a float tank, which man, you got to do that. man, you got to do that. man, you got to do that. >> I do. You got to do that. I mean, it is >> I do. You got to do that. I mean, it is >> I do. You got to do that. I mean, it is >> cuz you never done it before. >> cuz you never done it before. >> cuz you never done it before. >> I haven't, but I just I got such of a >> I haven't, but I just I got such of a >> I haven't, but I just I got such of a jam going on up there right now. I mean, jam going on up there right now. I mean, jam going on up there right now. I mean, the the routine that I'm doing right now the the routine that I'm doing right now the the routine that I'm doing right now really takes about an hour and 15 really takes about an hour and 15 really takes about an hour and 15 minutes because I'm going in I'm getting minutes because I'm going in I'm getting minutes because I'm going in I'm getting a good burn in the sauna from doing like a good burn in the sauna from doing like a good burn in the sauna from doing like a 25 minute the first time, then I'm a 25 minute the first time, then I'm a 25 minute the first time, then I'm probably doing then like you're probably doing then like you're probably doing then like you're showering off to getting the cold showering off to getting the cold showering off to getting the cold plunge. It's probably 35 minutes just plunge. It's probably 35 minutes just plunge. It's probably 35 minutes just I'm getting that's one round of sauna I'm getting that's one round of sauna I'm getting that's one round of sauna and then a cold plunge. Then I get and then a cold plunge. Then I get and then a cold plunge. Then I get another sauna in there and then with my another sauna in there and then with my another sauna in there and then with my red light just takes me so much time and red light just takes me so much time and red light just takes me so much time and I'm and I'm I'm hooked on the hyperbaric I'm and I'm I'm hooked on the hyperbaric I'm and I'm I'm hooked on the hyperbaric dude. Like the hyperbaric is that's dude. Like the hyperbaric is that's dude. Like the hyperbaric is that's what's keeping me in my triathlon what's keeping me in my triathlon what's keeping me in my triathlon training. Like I know for a fact like training. Like I know for a fact like training. Like I know for a fact like when I go in there and I do four bricks when I go in there and I do four bricks when I go in there and I do four bricks in a row and I'm running, swimming, in a row and I'm running, swimming, in a row and I'm running, swimming, biking for four days. I go spend an hour biking for four days. I go spend an hour biking for four days. I go spend an hour or two in that hyperbaric like I'm I can or two in that hyperbaric like I'm I can or two in that hyperbaric like I'm I can feel the next morning. I was like I got feel the next morning. I was like I got feel the next morning. I was like I got it. And that's a that's an hour sit.
28:00it. And that's a that's an hour sit. it. And that's a that's an hour sit. You're just sitting in there. I mean, You're just sitting in there. I mean, You're just sitting in there. I mean, there's just not a whole lot of time there's just not a whole lot of time there's just not a whole lot of time left. I'd love to go to I love it, but left. I'd love to go to I love it, but left. I'd love to go to I love it, but it's just it's just it's just >> I get it. No. And I always say like, >> I get it. No. And I always say like, >> I get it. No. And I always say like, man, I wish somebody would just pay me man, I wish somebody would just pay me man, I wish somebody would just pay me to like work on myself like a salary cuz to like work on myself like a salary cuz to like work on myself like a salary cuz I would I I came up with a new I would I I came up with a new I would I I came up with a new terminology today. terminology today. terminology today. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> So, S, you normally do the what I call >> So, S, you normally do the what I call >> So, S, you normally do the what I call the emotional baptism, which is an hour the emotional baptism, which is an hour the emotional baptism, which is an hour of the hyperaric chamber and then like a of the hyperaric chamber and then like a of the hyperaric chamber and then like a roughly an hour whatever your wellness roughly an hour whatever your wellness roughly an hour whatever your wellness regimen is. Well, there's a new regimen is. Well, there's a new regimen is. Well, there's a new terminology. is called the emotional terminology. is called the emotional terminology. is called the emotional exorcism. exorcism. exorcism. >> There we go. >> There we go. >> There we go. >> And I I No one's done it yet, including >> And I I No one's done it yet, including >> And I I No one's done it yet, including me. U you do an hour in the chamber, me. U you do an hour in the chamber, me. U you do an hour in the chamber, then you do your wellness routine, then then you do your wellness routine, then then you do your wellness routine, then you take a shower, and you do a float, you take a shower, and you do a float, you take a shower, and you do a float, which you're talking about at least which you're talking about at least which you're talking about at least that's going to take you at least three that's going to take you at least three that's going to take you at least three hours. hours. hours. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Um but yeah, I just thought I would >> Um but yeah, I just thought I would >> Um but yeah, I just thought I would share that with you. share that with you. share that with you. >> Yeah, I'm down. I'm down. I'll do it, >> Yeah, I'm down. I'm down. I'll do it, >> Yeah, I'm down. I'm down. I'll do it, >> dude. The float. Um, something about the >> dude. The float. Um, something about the >> dude. The float. Um, something about the float. It's it's very similar to like
29:00float. It's it's very similar to like float. It's it's very similar to like those moments you're sitting in the those moments you're sitting in the those moments you're sitting in the sauna. It's so still and so quiet. I I sauna. It's so still and so quiet. I I sauna. It's so still and so quiet. I I feel like sometimes it's hard to rest. feel like sometimes it's hard to rest. feel like sometimes it's hard to rest. And even like in meditation, you know, And even like in meditation, you know, And even like in meditation, you know, like you know, you go to the classes or like you know, you go to the classes or like you know, you go to the classes or whatever, you're you're with other whatever, you're you're with other whatever, you're you're with other people and and and like it there. And people and and and like it there. And people and and and like it there. And that's the good thing about meditation that's the good thing about meditation that's the good thing about meditation is you do need to be distracted. You do is you do need to be distracted. You do is you do need to be distracted. You do need to have sounds and things and and need to have sounds and things and and need to have sounds and things and and fragments of sounds going on to help you fragments of sounds going on to help you fragments of sounds going on to help you with your practice. But something about with your practice. But something about with your practice. But something about this float, it isolates all that where this float, it isolates all that where this float, it isolates all that where there is no noise and you can just sit there is no noise and you can just sit there is no noise and you can just sit there and it's like the Dead Sea. You there and it's like the Dead Sea. You there and it's like the Dead Sea. You lay in the water and you float and and lay in the water and you float and and lay in the water and you float and and you can put it on I I put on 432 hertz you can put it on I I put on 432 hertz you can put it on I I put on 432 hertz earlier and uh I was just like man I earlier and uh I was just like man I earlier and uh I was just like man I just started having these like almost just started having these like almost just started having these like almost like rim sleep idea daydream things. like rim sleep idea daydream things. like rim sleep idea daydream things. Like it's it's kind of crazy. Like it's Like it's it's kind of crazy. Like it's Like it's it's kind of crazy. Like it's like you can get rest that you can't like you can get rest that you can't like you can get rest that you can't normally get even when you're asleep or normally get even when you're asleep or normally get even when you're asleep or you're like taking a nap or you're you're like taking a nap or you're you're like taking a nap or you're meditating or you're just, you know, meditating or you're just, you know, meditating or you're just, you know, chilling on the couch. chilling on the couch. chilling on the couch. >> So 10 out of 10 recommend. Yeah, I need >> So 10 out of 10 recommend. Yeah, I need >> So 10 out of 10 recommend. Yeah, I need something. And in our addiction recovery
30:00something. And in our addiction recovery something. And in our addiction recovery process, we're always just tyrannized, process, we're always just tyrannized, process, we're always just tyrannized, just tortured by that self, that voice just tortured by that self, that voice just tortured by that self, that voice that never stops, that that comparing, that never stops, that that comparing, that never stops, that that comparing, that wondering what's going to happen that wondering what's going to happen that wondering what's going to happen next. I mean, Judge, I I can just next. I mean, Judge, I I can just next. I mean, Judge, I I can just imagine getting in a sensory deprivation imagine getting in a sensory deprivation imagine getting in a sensory deprivation tank for an hour and just being left tank for an hour and just being left tank for an hour and just being left alone with self, but just just there. alone with self, but just just there. alone with self, but just just there. And the things we discover when we're And the things we discover when we're And the things we discover when we're when we're left to peace and quiet, or when we're left to peace and quiet, or when we're left to peace and quiet, or the things we kind of observe that maybe the things we kind of observe that maybe the things we kind of observe that maybe matter, maybe don't matter. I mean, matter, maybe don't matter. I mean, matter, maybe don't matter. I mean, that's what the recovery is all about. that's what the recovery is all about. that's what the recovery is all about. Whether it's physical, mental, or Whether it's physical, mental, or Whether it's physical, mental, or emotional, is just being like, "Wow, I emotional, is just being like, "Wow, I emotional, is just being like, "Wow, I am here now. I'm doing something I never am here now. I'm doing something I never am here now. I'm doing something I never thought I'd do before. I'm just with thought I'd do before. I'm just with thought I'd do before. I'm just with self. I'm just here. Let's see. Let's self. I'm just here. Let's see. Let's self. I'm just here. Let's see. Let's see what we discover. Let's see what we see what we discover. Let's see what we see what we discover. Let's see what we find." And I every time I walk out of find." And I every time I walk out of find." And I every time I walk out of there, I'm in a better place, man. Oh, there, I'm in a better place, man. Oh, there, I'm in a better place, man. Oh, for sure. I mean, the people laugh. They for sure. I mean, the people laugh. They for sure. I mean, the people laugh. They think we're in there like eating ecstasy think we're in there like eating ecstasy think we're in there like eating ecstasy or something. We come out grinning like or something. We come out grinning like or something. We come out grinning like Cheshire Cats. I mean, like, because Cheshire Cats. I mean, like, because Cheshire Cats. I mean, like, because there's that coffee shop right there, there's that coffee shop right there, there's that coffee shop right there, and we just come out, my wife and I, we and we just come out, my wife and I, we and we just come out, my wife and I, we probably do about two sessions a week probably do about two sessions a week probably do about two sessions a week together. And we come out just grinning, together. And we come out just grinning, together. And we come out just grinning, you know, like just just feeling great. you know, like just just feeling great. you know, like just just feeling great. We're we're we're chill, you know what We're we're we're chill, you know what We're we're we're chill, you know what I'm saying? We're not really looking to I'm saying? We're not really looking to I'm saying? We're not really looking to because we are relaxed and we're not because we are relaxed and we're not because we are relaxed and we're not looking to go do anything else, but
31:00looking to go do anything else, but looking to go do anything else, but we're always super super happy. And that we're always super super happy. And that we're always super super happy. And that that glow, that feel, that glow, that feel, that glow, that feel, >> it lasts for probably like until we go >> it lasts for probably like until we go >> it lasts for probably like until we go to bed. Yeah. If we come in at 4:00 or to bed. Yeah. If we come in at 4:00 or to bed. Yeah. If we come in at 4:00 or 5, it's like it's all night. We feel 5, it's like it's all night. We feel 5, it's like it's all night. We feel really great. I tell you what, I didn't really great. I tell you what, I didn't really great. I tell you what, I didn't sleep. I I have a horrible sleep. Bad sleep. I I have a horrible sleep. Bad sleep. I I have a horrible sleep. Bad bad sleep stuff. But I have not really bad sleep stuff. But I have not really bad sleep stuff. But I have not really dreamed very much in probably the past dreamed very much in probably the past dreamed very much in probably the past three years. The first time I went in three years. The first time I went in three years. The first time I went in and did the whole regimen with you was and did the whole regimen with you was and did the whole regimen with you was the first night in three years that I the first night in three years that I the first night in three years that I had like legit dreams. Wow. had like legit dreams. Wow. had like legit dreams. Wow. >> And I was like, "Okay, maybe it was >> And I was like, "Okay, maybe it was >> And I was like, "Okay, maybe it was coincidence, you know, maybe it was." coincidence, you know, maybe it was." coincidence, you know, maybe it was." But but but then went in the next time But but but then went in the next time But but but then went in the next time two days later and and and dreamed two days later and and and dreamed two days later and and and dreamed again. And ever since then, if I don't again. And ever since then, if I don't again. And ever since then, if I don't come in, if I miss two or three days, I come in, if I miss two or three days, I come in, if I miss two or three days, I don't I don't remember my dream sleep. I don't I don't remember my dream sleep. I don't I don't remember my dream sleep. I don't have dreams sleep. But if I if I don't have dreams sleep. But if I if I don't have dreams sleep. But if I if I go in and get like two or three sessions go in and get like two or three sessions go in and get like two or three sessions in a row, then I'm dreaming every one of in a row, then I'm dreaming every one of in a row, then I'm dreaming every one of those nights. So I know it's affecting those nights. So I know it's affecting those nights. So I know it's affecting my my my sleep pattern. And sleep is my my my sleep pattern. And sleep is my my my sleep pattern. And sleep is everything. I mean, if we're talking everything. I mean, if we're talking everything. I mean, if we're talking about being, you know, restless, about being, you know, restless, about being, you know, restless, irritable, and discontent in the 12step irritable, and discontent in the 12step irritable, and discontent in the 12step world and that's what makes us drink, world and that's what makes us drink, world and that's what makes us drink, it's like if I'm sleeping and I'm rested it's like if I'm sleeping and I'm rested it's like if I'm sleeping and I'm rested and I'm happy, and I'm happy, and I'm happy, >> I'm 90% ahead of the addiction,
32:00>> I'm 90% ahead of the addiction, >> I'm 90% ahead of the addiction, >> you know, if I'm doing that stuff. And >> you know, if I'm doing that stuff. And >> you know, if I'm doing that stuff. And so, like, this right here is this is so, like, this right here is this is so, like, this right here is this is helping tremendously. I know that that's helping tremendously. I know that that's helping tremendously. I know that that's why everybody's coming in and out, but why everybody's coming in and out, but why everybody's coming in and out, but what is it? What is it about that like h what is it? What is it about that like h what is it? What is it about that like h how does it how does it affect the sleep how does it how does it affect the sleep how does it how does it affect the sleep so much? Do you know anything about so much? Do you know anything about so much? Do you know anything about >> So, I mean, I have speculation. I know >> So, I mean, I have speculation. I know >> So, I mean, I have speculation. I know that the because you do you always do that the because you do you always do that the because you do you always do red light, right? red light, right? red light, right? >> Mhm. >> Mhm. >> Mhm. >> Yeah. So, I know the red light helps >> Yeah. So, I know the red light helps >> Yeah. So, I know the red light helps with the circadian biology. Honestly, I with the circadian biology. Honestly, I with the circadian biology. Honestly, I think the main thing is like get in the think the main thing is like get in the think the main thing is like get in the sauna because it's free exercise. sauna because it's free exercise. sauna because it's free exercise. >> It's free exercise, man. I was in there >> It's free exercise, man. I was in there >> It's free exercise, man. I was in there earlier and I I don't know if this is a earlier and I I don't know if this is a earlier and I I don't know if this is a pride thing or what it was, but like I pride thing or what it was, but like I pride thing or what it was, but like I got my heart rate up to 170 just sitting got my heart rate up to 170 just sitting got my heart rate up to 170 just sitting in the heat. Sitting in the heat, just in the heat. Sitting in the heat, just in the heat. Sitting in the heat, just baking in the sauna. Um, but like you baking in the sauna. Um, but like you baking in the sauna. Um, but like you you know you just burn calories so it's you know you just burn calories so it's you know you just burn calories so it's like you feel like you did a workout and like you feel like you did a workout and like you feel like you did a workout and I think and then the shock from the cold I think and then the shock from the cold I think and then the shock from the cold plunge and then you add all the things plunge and then you add all the things plunge and then you add all the things together. together. together. >> I agree like I don't I don't have to >> I agree like I don't I don't have to >> I agree like I don't I don't have to take anything to sleep. Like I can get a take anything to sleep. Like I can get a take anything to sleep. Like I can get a 70 score falling asleep on my couch 70 score falling asleep on my couch 70 score falling asleep on my couch because I'm just tired at the end of the
33:00because I'm just tired at the end of the because I'm just tired at the end of the day. day. day. >> Um well and like overall it's just >> Um well and like overall it's just >> Um well and like overall it's just easier to rest. And I think too like easier to rest. And I think too like easier to rest. And I think too like kind of like you said like you know kind of like you said like you know kind of like you said like you know haltry, angry, lonely, tired, like all haltry, angry, lonely, tired, like all haltry, angry, lonely, tired, like all those things like getting to where you those things like getting to where you those things like getting to where you can sort of regulate your physical and can sort of regulate your physical and can sort of regulate your physical and regulate your emotional, you know, like regulate your emotional, you know, like regulate your emotional, you know, like you can you can sort of relax. you can you can sort of relax. you can you can sort of relax. >> It's like a weird like sober like >> It's like a weird like sober like >> It's like a weird like sober like environmental forced relaxation environmental forced relaxation environmental forced relaxation >> and we can take charge in it too. I >> and we can take charge in it too. I >> and we can take charge in it too. I think it's frustrating sometimes when think it's frustrating sometimes when think it's frustrating sometimes when we're just told to like surrender and we're just told to like surrender and we're just told to like surrender and let go and just accept things. Like no, let go and just accept things. Like no, let go and just accept things. Like no, there's something you can do. There's there's something you can do. There's there's something you can do. There's something physically you can do to go something physically you can do to go something physically you can do to go change your state. If you want to go for change your state. If you want to go for change your state. If you want to go for a jog and go hop in the sauna, you can a jog and go hop in the sauna, you can a jog and go hop in the sauna, you can change the way that you're feeling. You change the way that you're feeling. You change the way that you're feeling. You can change the way that you're thinking can change the way that you're thinking can change the way that you're thinking right now. Instead of just like, oh, right now. Instead of just like, oh, right now. Instead of just like, oh, just just grin and bear, just tolerate just just grin and bear, just tolerate just just grin and bear, just tolerate the like, no, you can go do something the like, no, you can go do something the like, no, you can go do something right now for yourself that's going to right now for yourself that's going to right now for yourself that's going to change the way you feel in a healthy way change the way you feel in a healthy way change the way you feel in a healthy way that's not going to have any adverse that's not going to have any adverse that's not going to have any adverse consequences. That's what I love about consequences. That's what I love about consequences. That's what I love about the whole thing.
34:00the whole thing. the whole thing. >> For sure. And I mean, I think you and I >> For sure. And I mean, I think you and I >> For sure. And I mean, I think you and I both share like kind of in our lives and both share like kind of in our lives and both share like kind of in our lives and in our business practices and stuff just in our business practices and stuff just in our business practices and stuff just kind of like boots on the ground, you kind of like boots on the ground, you kind of like boots on the ground, you know, and I'm always the I've just know, and I'm always the I've just know, and I'm always the I've just always been a resource guy. Like I'm always been a resource guy. Like I'm always been a resource guy. Like I'm always trying to, you know, figure out always trying to, you know, figure out always trying to, you know, figure out what what do I need to do, what's the what what do I need to do, what's the what what do I need to do, what's the next thing, how do I solve this, etc., next thing, how do I solve this, etc., next thing, how do I solve this, etc., etc. And uh for me, it's just like I etc. And uh for me, it's just like I etc. And uh for me, it's just like I will literally do anything to better will literally do anything to better will literally do anything to better myself. Mhm. myself. Mhm. myself. Mhm. >> And that's where I see and that that's >> And that's where I see and that that's >> And that's where I see and that that's something that I've applied and this has something that I've applied and this has something that I've applied and this has become a part of my own, you know, become a part of my own, you know, become a part of my own, you know, unique recovery practice period. But unique recovery practice period. But unique recovery practice period. But like that's where I see when someone is like that's where I see when someone is like that's where I see when someone is like in a place where they're ready to like in a place where they're ready to like in a place where they're ready to let go for sure is cuz they're willing let go for sure is cuz they're willing let go for sure is cuz they're willing to do whatever it takes to better to do whatever it takes to better to do whatever it takes to better themselves cuz like I know these are themselves cuz like I know these are themselves cuz like I know these are tools. I would be a fool to sit here tools. I would be a fool to sit here tools. I would be a fool to sit here with this and not use this on regular with this and not use this on regular with this and not use this on regular basis. I mean it's just it's it's a basis. I mean it's just it's it's a basis. I mean it's just it's it's a no-brainer. It's a no-brainer. Like it's no-brainer. It's a no-brainer. Like it's no-brainer. It's a no-brainer. Like it's going to make your life better. And like going to make your life better. And like going to make your life better. And like I didn't realize that it was going to I didn't realize that it was going to I didn't realize that it was going to like like like I didn't realize it was going to kind of I didn't realize it was going to kind of I didn't realize it was going to kind of like take take its own form and
35:00like take take its own form and like take take its own form and character and and have its own feet like character and and have its own feet like character and and have its own feet like it has. And it's been really cool to it has. And it's been really cool to it has. And it's been really cool to culminate and watch cuz like you know culminate and watch cuz like you know culminate and watch cuz like you know it's it's it's its own thing but also it's it's it's its own thing but also it's it's it's its own thing but also it's like it's a part of me. So I'm like it's like it's a part of me. So I'm like it's like it's a part of me. So I'm like really attached to the community of it. really attached to the community of it. really attached to the community of it. Like I just I don't have to like Like I just I don't have to like Like I just I don't have to like >> I don't have to go somewhere to be >> I don't have to go somewhere to be >> I don't have to go somewhere to be social. I can just be in my space and be social. I can just be in my space and be social. I can just be in my space and be social and hang out with people that social and hang out with people that social and hang out with people that feel the same way that I do. And it's feel the same way that I do. And it's feel the same way that I do. And it's like we're all just trying to like, you like we're all just trying to like, you like we're all just trying to like, you know, better our lives and optimize our know, better our lives and optimize our know, better our lives and optimize our experience and and our health. experience and and our health. experience and and our health. >> Tell me some of the success stories. >> Tell me some of the success stories. >> Tell me some of the success stories. I've se I know you've seen a lot of I've se I know you've seen a lot of I've se I know you've seen a lot of people. I know that me and Rachel are people. I know that me and Rachel are people. I know that me and Rachel are success stories, but you've got some success stories, but you've got some success stories, but you've got some some people in there have had some some people in there have had some some people in there have had some pretty dramatic results. pretty dramatic results. pretty dramatic results. >> Yeah. Um I don't know if she I don't >> Yeah. Um I don't know if she I don't >> Yeah. Um I don't know if she I don't know if she would have know if she would have know if she would have >> You don't have to say names. You can >> You don't have to say names. You can >> You don't have to say names. You can tell the story. That's a powerful story. tell the story. That's a powerful story. tell the story. That's a powerful story. >> Yeah. I do have a have a a good friend >> Yeah. I do have a have a a good friend >> Yeah. I do have a have a a good friend that comes in and she's uh she has uh that comes in and she's uh she has uh that comes in and she's uh she has uh epilepsy and so she had seizures and we epilepsy and so she had seizures and we epilepsy and so she had seizures and we kind of I know she's got she she's got kind of I know she's got she she's got kind of I know she's got she she's got some holistic stuff that she's working some holistic stuff that she's working some holistic stuff that she's working on too that that she takes and that's on too that that she takes and that's on too that that she takes and that's been helpful. But since she's been doing been helpful. But since she's been doing been helpful. But since she's been doing the contrast therapy, I mean, I want to
36:00the contrast therapy, I mean, I want to the contrast therapy, I mean, I want to say I think the last time we spoke on say I think the last time we spoke on say I think the last time we spoke on it, it's been it, it's been it, it's been at least two months, maybe even three, at least two months, maybe even three, at least two months, maybe even three, cuz she had a date that was like she she cuz she had a date that was like she she cuz she had a date that was like she she kind of reset it cuz she had a seizure kind of reset it cuz she had a seizure kind of reset it cuz she had a seizure when she was asleep. Um, but like it's when she was asleep. Um, but like it's when she was asleep. Um, but like it's been more time that and I and I've been more time that and I and I've been more time that and I and I've literally watched her aura and her literally watched her aura and her literally watched her aura and her energy and and her like just vibe just energy and and her like just vibe just energy and and her like just vibe just completely change and like it's been so completely change and like it's been so completely change and like it's been so powerful and I've been so and and if she powerful and I've been so and and if she powerful and I've been so and and if she watches this I'm not going to name drop watches this I'm not going to name drop watches this I'm not going to name drop you cuz I don't have permission to do you cuz I don't have permission to do you cuz I don't have permission to do that. I know you may not care but like that. I know you may not care but like that. I know you may not care but like I'm proud of you. you're awesome and I'm proud of you. you're awesome and I'm proud of you. you're awesome and like I've I've been so inspired and like I've I've been so inspired and like I've I've been so inspired and honored to be in that journey with her honored to be in that journey with her honored to be in that journey with her and to watch her just like, and to watch her just like, and to watch her just like, >> you know, just do the work and like just >> you know, just do the work and like just >> you know, just do the work and like just for that to be able to help her that for that to be able to help her that for that to be able to help her that much. I mean, it's just, much. I mean, it's just, much. I mean, it's just, >> man, it's powerful. It's powerful. And >> man, it's powerful. It's powerful. And >> man, it's powerful. It's powerful. And like we we have speculations of what we like we we have speculations of what we like we we have speculations of what we think some of the science of it is, but think some of the science of it is, but think some of the science of it is, but like what does it matter like what does it matter like what does it matter >> if it's working? Let's keep doing if it
37:00>> if it's working? Let's keep doing if it >> if it's working? Let's keep doing if it ain't broke. ain't broke. ain't broke. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> You know, um >> You know, um >> You know, um >> Yeah. Yeah, in our addiction, we knew >> Yeah. Yeah, in our addiction, we knew >> Yeah. Yeah, in our addiction, we knew this stuff's hurting us. You know, the this stuff's hurting us. You know, the this stuff's hurting us. You know, the best thing we could do is stop doing it. best thing we could do is stop doing it. best thing we could do is stop doing it. We found a way to do that. And now in We found a way to do that. And now in We found a way to do that. And now in our in our recovery, we're finding out our in our recovery, we're finding out our in our recovery, we're finding out things that that may be helping or as things that that may be helping or as things that that may be helping or as long as we're doing things we know long as we're doing things we know long as we're doing things we know aren't hurting us and we're going down aren't hurting us and we're going down aren't hurting us and we're going down this knocking on doors and going through this knocking on doors and going through this knocking on doors and going through doors of things that might be helping. I doors of things that might be helping. I doors of things that might be helping. I think that's what it's all about, trying think that's what it's all about, trying think that's what it's all about, trying new things out. That's I'm so grateful new things out. That's I'm so grateful new things out. That's I'm so grateful to have it in my life because like I to have it in my life because like I to have it in my life because like I said, it's given me a venue to do some said, it's given me a venue to do some said, it's given me a venue to do some of this deeper work, some of this of this deeper work, some of this of this deeper work, some of this selfwork that I just haven't had. I can selfwork that I just haven't had. I can selfwork that I just haven't had. I can go to meetings and I can talk to my go to meetings and I can talk to my go to meetings and I can talk to my sponsor and I've have to do that. But to sponsor and I've have to do that. But to sponsor and I've have to do that. But to be able to sit with self, be able to sit be able to sit with self, be able to sit be able to sit with self, be able to sit and like challenge my body, my spirit, and like challenge my body, my spirit, and like challenge my body, my spirit, my mind all at the same time in a safe my mind all at the same time in a safe my mind all at the same time in a safe place, like that's that's a that's next place, like that's that's a that's next place, like that's that's a that's next level recovery for me. It's really cool. level recovery for me. It's really cool. level recovery for me. It's really cool. >> No, for sure. And uh you know, and I >> No, for sure. And uh you know, and I >> No, for sure. And uh you know, and I think too the the sauna is a therapy think too the the sauna is a therapy think too the the sauna is a therapy box. box. box. >> When you get in the sauna with somebody, >> When you get in the sauna with somebody, >> When you get in the sauna with somebody, and I used to joke because when we were and I used to joke because when we were and I used to joke because when we were at 40 members, at 40 members, at 40 members, uh I would tell people 10% of our uh I would tell people 10% of our uh I would tell people 10% of our members are therapists. So you come here members are therapists. So you come here members are therapists. So you come here at the right time. at the right time. at the right time. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Freebies. Free therapy session, you
38:00>> Freebies. Free therapy session, you >> Freebies. Free therapy session, you know. know. know. >> Oh yeah. No, me and Zed get it all the >> Oh yeah. No, me and Zed get it all the >> Oh yeah. No, me and Zed get it all the time. I got one last night. He showed up time. I got one last night. He showed up time. I got one last night. He showed up at six o'clock and I just hung around at six o'clock and I just hung around at six o'clock and I just hung around like a groupy. He was like, "Yeah, I'm like a groupy. He was like, "Yeah, I'm like a groupy. He was like, "Yeah, I'm going hop in there. I'm get a free one." going hop in there. I'm get a free one." going hop in there. I'm get a free one." >> And I always like ask him. I'm just >> And I always like ask him. I'm just >> And I always like ask him. I'm just like, "Hey man, uh you might have uh like, "Hey man, uh you might have uh like, "Hey man, uh you might have uh asked me a question was like he's just asked me a question was like he's just asked me a question was like he's just like, "Yeah, come on." Like bring it and like, "Yeah, come on." Like bring it and like, "Yeah, come on." Like bring it and then we'll just talk. And it's kind of then we'll just talk. And it's kind of then we'll just talk. And it's kind of like too you have a bro session because like too you have a bro session because like too you have a bro session because you're like you're both trying to stay you're like you're both trying to stay you're like you're both trying to stay in there as long as you can. Yeah. you in there as long as you can. Yeah. you in there as long as you can. Yeah. you know, so it the therapy starts to change know, so it the therapy starts to change know, so it the therapy starts to change a little bit once your heart rate gets a little bit once your heart rate gets a little bit once your heart rate gets to about 140 and like to about 140 and like to about 140 and like >> let's get it out. Let's get it out. >> let's get it out. Let's get it out. >> let's get it out. Let's get it out. >> It's like, oh, yeah, man. So, hold on. >> It's like, oh, yeah, man. So, hold on. >> It's like, oh, yeah, man. So, hold on. Let me uh let me do some deep breathing Let me uh let me do some deep breathing Let me uh let me do some deep breathing for a second and think about what we're for a second and think about what we're for a second and think about what we're actually still talking about. actually still talking about. actually still talking about. >> Yeah. Um, yeah, I've seen a lot of just >> Yeah. Um, yeah, I've seen a lot of just >> Yeah. Um, yeah, I've seen a lot of just shift mentally in in people and and and shift mentally in in people and and and shift mentally in in people and and and and the community side of it and just and the community side of it and just and the community side of it and just like how you can just feel really like how you can just feel really like how you can just feel really connected coming in and like I always am connected coming in and like I always am connected coming in and like I always am very encouraging of like you know if if very encouraging of like you know if if very encouraging of like you know if if it is kind of packed just sit in the it is kind of packed just sit in the it is kind of packed just sit in the honor with someone make a friend like
39:00honor with someone make a friend like honor with someone make a friend like this is a safe space and and it's like this is a safe space and and it's like this is a safe space and and it's like very much like an encouragement of just very much like an encouragement of just very much like an encouragement of just betterment and um and I love seeing betterment and um and I love seeing betterment and um and I love seeing people that are new and They come in and people that are new and They come in and people that are new and They come in and they're like, they start coming two to they're like, they start coming two to they're like, they start coming two to three times a week. three times a week. three times a week. >> Mhm. >> Mhm. >> And it's like it's codependency >> And it's like it's codependency >> And it's like it's codependency graduation. I always say that. It's like graduation. I always say that. It's like graduation. I always say that. It's like you come in the first time, all right, you come in the first time, all right, you come in the first time, all right, you're good. I'm going to walk you you're good. I'm going to walk you you're good. I'm going to walk you through it. Leave your phone in your through it. Leave your phone in your through it. Leave your phone in your locker. locker. locker. >> Second time, >> Second time, >> Second time, >> I don't mind guiding you through it as >> I don't mind guiding you through it as >> I don't mind guiding you through it as well, you know, and like I keep an eye well, you know, and like I keep an eye well, you know, and like I keep an eye on you. Third time, how bad do you want on you. Third time, how bad do you want on you. Third time, how bad do you want it? it? it? >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Keep your own time. >> Keep your own time. >> Keep your own time. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> And then once you get to that point, of >> And then once you get to that point, of >> And then once you get to that point, of course, we're there to support, but like course, we're there to support, but like course, we're there to support, but like we want to see, you know, people develop we want to see, you know, people develop we want to see, you know, people develop their own practice. And that's really their own practice. And that's really their own practice. And that's really cool to watch when someone and I got cool to watch when someone and I got cool to watch when someone and I got another guy that comes in man and he uh another guy that comes in man and he uh another guy that comes in man and he uh in in that in that 38 special as we call in in that in that 38 special as we call in in that in that 38 special as we call it which we have two we have three it which we have two we have three it which we have two we have three plunges. Two are at 48 and one is an plunges. Two are at 48 and one is an plunges. Two are at 48 and one is an inflatable that's 38 as you know. inflatable that's 38 as you know. inflatable that's 38 as you know. >> So it's 10 degrees colder. It's uh I >> So it's 10 degrees colder. It's uh I >> So it's 10 degrees colder. It's uh I don't know that there's any science don't know that there's any science don't know that there's any science behind it other than it's just really behind it other than it's just really behind it other than it's just really cold. cold. cold. >> Really cold. >> Really cold. >> Really cold. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> It's like if you're really feeling
40:00>> It's like if you're really feeling >> It's like if you're really feeling emotionally unregulated. emotionally unregulated. emotionally unregulated. If you're open to it feel free to hop in If you're open to it feel free to hop in If you're open to it feel free to hop in that. This guy, he came in, he had never that. This guy, he came in, he had never that. This guy, he came in, he had never plunged before and now I swear to you, plunged before and now I swear to you, plunged before and now I swear to you, he he comes just about every single day. he he comes just about every single day. he he comes just about every single day. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> And I know he had some back issues and >> And I know he had some back issues and >> And I know he had some back issues and and we kind of worked some stuff out. He and we kind of worked some stuff out. He and we kind of worked some stuff out. He was using the PEMF paddles, which is was using the PEMF paddles, which is was using the PEMF paddles, which is like pulsing electrominated fields like pulsing electrominated fields like pulsing electrominated fields therapy. I know Rachel uses it some, therapy. I know Rachel uses it some, therapy. I know Rachel uses it some, too. too. too. >> It's kind of like a TINS unit, but it >> It's kind of like a TINS unit, but it >> It's kind of like a TINS unit, but it just helps bring red blood red blood just helps bring red blood red blood just helps bring red blood red blood cells to the site and kind of like pulse cells to the site and kind of like pulse cells to the site and kind of like pulse the muscle. the muscle. the muscle. >> And he's used that on his back a lot, >> And he's used that on his back a lot, >> And he's used that on his back a lot, and I've seen his just overall and I've seen his just overall and I've seen his just overall functionality and vibe change. functionality and vibe change. functionality and vibe change. >> Um, and it's just it's it's really cool >> Um, and it's just it's it's really cool >> Um, and it's just it's it's really cool to watch. Yeah, Rachel's had some pretty to watch. Yeah, Rachel's had some pretty to watch. Yeah, Rachel's had some pretty ongoing back issues. It comes and goes. ongoing back issues. It comes and goes. ongoing back issues. It comes and goes. It's really a pain in the ass because It's really a pain in the ass because It's really a pain in the ass because she doesn't like taking medicine, you she doesn't like taking medicine, you she doesn't like taking medicine, you know, ibuprofen or different stuff. know, ibuprofen or different stuff. know, ibuprofen or different stuff. Tears her stomach up, of course, opioids Tears her stomach up, of course, opioids Tears her stomach up, of course, opioids are off the table and there's just not a are off the table and there's just not a are off the table and there's just not a whole lot of solution. Going in there whole lot of solution. Going in there whole lot of solution. Going in there and it works every time. She goes in and it works every time. She goes in and it works every time. She goes in there and sits for 20 minutes and she's there and sits for 20 minutes and she's there and sits for 20 minutes and she's painfree, like solid painree for eight painfree, like solid painree for eight painfree, like solid painree for eight to nine hours. I mean, it really really to nine hours. I mean, it really really to nine hours. I mean, it really really works. It's not just like hoodoo voodoo. works. It's not just like hoodoo voodoo. works. It's not just like hoodoo voodoo. Like, she's sitting there like, "No, Like, she's sitting there like, "No, Like, she's sitting there like, "No, this feels great and it's going to feel
41:00this feels great and it's going to feel this feels great and it's going to feel great for the next five to six hours." great for the next five to six hours." great for the next five to six hours." It's amazing. She didn't have to take It's amazing. She didn't have to take It's amazing. She didn't have to take anything. just gets that benefit. That's anything. just gets that benefit. That's anything. just gets that benefit. That's awesome. We're talking about hitting awesome. We're talking about hitting awesome. We're talking about hitting walls in the cold plunger, hitting walls walls in the cold plunger, hitting walls walls in the cold plunger, hitting walls in the sauna and talking about how in the sauna and talking about how in the sauna and talking about how that's related to recovery, but I really that's related to recovery, but I really that's related to recovery, but I really want to talk to you about kind of the want to talk to you about kind of the want to talk to you about kind of the entrepreneurialship. I mean, I know me, entrepreneurialship. I mean, I know me, entrepreneurialship. I mean, I know me, I've get this critic in my voice, in my I've get this critic in my voice, in my I've get this critic in my voice, in my head saying, you how how could I dare, head saying, you how how could I dare, head saying, you how how could I dare, you know, go try to start this business? you know, go try to start this business? you know, go try to start this business? You're going to try to do this do this You're going to try to do this do this You're going to try to do this do this thing. I'm not the right person for it. thing. I'm not the right person for it. thing. I'm not the right person for it. I don't deserve it. There's other people I don't deserve it. There's other people I don't deserve it. There's other people with, you know, degrees and and family with, you know, degrees and and family with, you know, degrees and and family backing or whatever. You know, no backing or whatever. You know, no backing or whatever. You know, no criminal record. I can't I'm I'm not the criminal record. I can't I'm I'm not the criminal record. I can't I'm I'm not the guy. But I find myself doing it and just guy. But I find myself doing it and just guy. But I find myself doing it and just pushing through. I'm sure we've never pushing through. I'm sure we've never pushing through. I'm sure we've never really talked about that, but I know really talked about that, but I know really talked about that, but I know you've got to have that inner critic. you've got to have that inner critic. you've got to have that inner critic. You got to have some of that stuff. You got to have some of that stuff. You got to have some of that stuff. >> So, what are what are some of the things >> So, what are what are some of the things >> So, what are what are some of the things that you do? And Dave, if you want to that you do? And Dave, if you want to that you do? And Dave, if you want to jump in here, too, as a budding jump in here, too, as a budding jump in here, too, as a budding entrepreneur. I mean, it's really really entrepreneur. I mean, it's really really entrepreneur. I mean, it's really really hard when you come from just a like I hard when you come from just a like I hard when you come from just a like I said, less than zero past. You know, said, less than zero past. You know, said, less than zero past. You know, it's not like, oh, we're neutral, we're it's not like, oh, we're neutral, we're it's not like, oh, we're neutral, we're average. It's like, dude, no. We're average. It's like, dude, no. We're average. It's like, dude, no. We're coming out of here with a with with coming out of here with a with with coming out of here with a with with Japanese made flip-flops and a ramen Japanese made flip-flops and a ramen Japanese made flip-flops and a ramen noodle. You know what I'm saying? Trying noodle. You know what I'm saying? Trying noodle. You know what I'm saying? Trying to put put our lives back together.
42:00to put put our lives back together. to put put our lives back together. Like, what do you what do you do? What Like, what do you what do you do? What Like, what do you what do you do? What are some of the tricks? What were some are some of the tricks? What were some are some of the tricks? What were some of the things that you're doing to make of the things that you're doing to make of the things that you're doing to make that possible? that possible? that possible? >> So, I know for me personally, it's like >> So, I know for me personally, it's like >> So, I know for me personally, it's like my my like just my mental self-care is my my like just my mental self-care is my my like just my mental self-care is is hands down the most important thing. is hands down the most important thing. is hands down the most important thing. And like my own recovery journey, and And like my own recovery journey, and And like my own recovery journey, and you and I have talked about this a you and I have talked about this a you and I have talked about this a little bit. little bit. little bit. >> Um I my recovery journey is more >> Um I my recovery journey is more >> Um I my recovery journey is more emotional. Like I didn't know what feel emotional. Like I didn't know what feel emotional. Like I didn't know what feel my feelings were. I didn't know how to my feelings were. I didn't know how to my feelings were. I didn't know how to feel my feelings. And and I I look at it feel my feelings. And and I I look at it feel my feelings. And and I I look at it as like going to the gym. Going to to as like going to the gym. Going to to as like going to the gym. Going to to the gym as part of my practice. going to the gym as part of my practice. going to the gym as part of my practice. going to some of these groups that I go to as some of these groups that I go to as some of these groups that I go to as part of my practice. Um the coal plunge, part of my practice. Um the coal plunge, part of my practice. Um the coal plunge, all the things because like that inner all the things because like that inner all the things because like that inner critic, man, that comes in, it's like critic, man, that comes in, it's like critic, man, that comes in, it's like you're not good enough. You're going to you're not good enough. You're going to you're not good enough. You're going to fail. Like you these bills are too high, fail. Like you these bills are too high, fail. Like you these bills are too high, the overheads this, that, this, that. the overheads this, that, this, that. the overheads this, that, this, that. And I think once you just like, And I think once you just like, And I think once you just like, you know, recognize and establish that you know, recognize and establish that you know, recognize and establish that like a lot of this stuff is just having like a lot of this stuff is just having like a lot of this stuff is just having the balls to pull the trigger. And once the balls to pull the trigger. And once the balls to pull the trigger. And once you do that, and I mean, yeah, you're you do that, and I mean, yeah, you're you do that, and I mean, yeah, you're you're taking in a lot, but like it's
43:00you're taking in a lot, but like it's you're taking in a lot, but like it's that survival mindset of I'm not good that survival mindset of I'm not good that survival mindset of I'm not good enough or my front my picture's on the enough or my front my picture's on the enough or my front my picture's on the front page of the paper, like I'm a front page of the paper, like I'm a front page of the paper, like I'm a piece of [ __ ] whatever. I'm I'm never piece of [ __ ] whatever. I'm I'm never piece of [ __ ] whatever. I'm I'm never going to succeed. Once you start getting going to succeed. Once you start getting going to succeed. Once you start getting a hold of like your mental right now, I a hold of like your mental right now, I a hold of like your mental right now, I I I find that that's where I can start I I find that that's where I can start I I find that that's where I can start to like, dude, like you can just go to like, dude, like you can just go to like, dude, like you can just go outside and go for a walk. Like, be outside and go for a walk. Like, be outside and go for a walk. Like, be grateful that you have a house. Yeah. grateful that you have a house. Yeah. grateful that you have a house. Yeah. >> Be grateful that you have a car. be >> Be grateful that you have a car. be >> Be grateful that you have a car. be grateful that you're presented with grateful that you're presented with grateful that you're presented with opportunities that you can even start a opportunities that you can even start a opportunities that you can even start a business or buy a new property or have business or buy a new property or have business or buy a new property or have the the you know wherewithal to like the the you know wherewithal to like the the you know wherewithal to like find the next thing that you can move find the next thing that you can move find the next thing that you can move into. And uh you know I think too for me into. And uh you know I think too for me into. And uh you know I think too for me a lot of the entrepreneurship is is I a lot of the entrepreneurship is is I a lot of the entrepreneurship is is I don't know if this is a good thing but don't know if this is a good thing but don't know if this is a good thing but it's kind of like the thrill of the it's kind of like the thrill of the it's kind of like the thrill of the chase. chase. chase. >> Yeah. It's like the next the next >> Yeah. It's like the next the next >> Yeah. It's like the next the next project and and sure am do I make as project and and sure am do I make as project and and sure am do I make as much money as I would potentially like much money as I would potentially like much money as I would potentially like if I was working a salary job somewhere? if I was working a salary job somewhere? if I was working a salary job somewhere? Probably not. But ultimately my freedom Probably not. But ultimately my freedom Probably not. But ultimately my freedom now is non-negotiable. Like I would now is non-negotiable. Like I would now is non-negotiable. Like I would rather have nothing but have freedom rather have nothing but have freedom rather have nothing but have freedom than to, you know what I'm saying? Like
44:00than to, you know what I'm saying? Like than to, you know what I'm saying? Like make a certain amount of money and be make a certain amount of money and be make a certain amount of money and be locked into a block of time where I'm locked into a block of time where I'm locked into a block of time where I'm not allowed to leave and I'm not allowed not allowed to leave and I'm not allowed not allowed to leave and I'm not allowed to do this. There's nothing wrong with to do this. There's nothing wrong with to do this. There's nothing wrong with that. There's nothing wrong with having that. There's nothing wrong with having that. There's nothing wrong with having that job. It just for me personally, I'm that job. It just for me personally, I'm that job. It just for me personally, I'm way too outside the box. way too outside the box. way too outside the box. >> Yeah, Rachel and I are unemployable at >> Yeah, Rachel and I are unemployable at >> Yeah, Rachel and I are unemployable at this point. this point. this point. >> I've been fired from so many jobs, bro. >> I've been fired from so many jobs, bro. >> I've been fired from so many jobs, bro. I don't know that I've ever really had I don't know that I've ever really had I don't know that I've ever really had like a job. Like I mean, yeah, for a like a job. Like I mean, yeah, for a like a job. Like I mean, yeah, for a short sent of time because I was like on short sent of time because I was like on short sent of time because I was like on probation and I needed to tell my probation and I needed to tell my probation and I needed to tell my probation officer that I still had a probation officer that I still had a probation officer that I still had a job. job. job. >> But after that ship sailed, >> But after that ship sailed, >> But after that ship sailed, >> I just I was like, man, I don't think I >> I just I was like, man, I don't think I >> I just I was like, man, I don't think I can get along with people in this can get along with people in this can get along with people in this capacity. And like even if let's just capacity. And like even if let's just capacity. And like even if let's just say if somebody offered me the dream say if somebody offered me the dream say if somebody offered me the dream job, I would still say job, I would still say job, I would still say >> we want to get back in the plunge at >> we want to get back in the plunge at >> we want to get back in the plunge at your own place. your own place. your own place. >> I would just say, "Sounds great. Let's >> I would just say, "Sounds great. Let's >> I would just say, "Sounds great. Let's do a 1099 and you can you you can do a 1099 and you can you you can do a 1099 and you can you you can invoice my LLC. I will work with you. I invoice my LLC. I will work with you. I invoice my LLC. I will work with you. I will not work for you." You know, cuz will not work for you." You know, cuz will not work for you." You know, cuz anybody can do that. That's just, you anybody can do that. That's just, you anybody can do that. That's just, you know, that's just being more, you know, know, that's just being more, you know, know, that's just being more, you know, a better business person. Like a better business person. Like a better business person. Like >> Yeah.
45:00>> Yeah. Well, and I think now too now we have Well, and I think now too now we have Well, and I think now too now we have this track record which I know you don't this track record which I know you don't this track record which I know you don't we don't really think about and realize we don't really think about and realize we don't really think about and realize it, but like whatever your gross is or it, but like whatever your gross is or it, but like whatever your gross is or how you know your your asset value and how you know your your asset value and how you know your your asset value and all that stuff and like you however much all that stuff and like you however much all that stuff and like you however much money you've run through a business like money you've run through a business like money you've run through a business like I've got health insurance and I pay for I've got health insurance and I pay for I've got health insurance and I pay for it. it. it. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> So it's like I've got job history. Like >> So it's like I've got job history. Like >> So it's like I've got job history. Like this is a new thing. I've got job this is a new thing. I've got job this is a new thing. I've got job history that I created. history that I created. history that I created. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> And it's not this it's not the same >> And it's not this it's not the same >> And it's not this it's not the same schedule as like showing up to a schedule as like showing up to a schedule as like showing up to a corporation or doing all those things. corporation or doing all those things. corporation or doing all those things. But like, man, if if it's something that But like, man, if if it's something that But like, man, if if it's something that calls you, make the jump. calls you, make the jump. calls you, make the jump. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Cuz if like there's a reason like God >> Cuz if like there's a reason like God >> Cuz if like there's a reason like God put that in you to make you think about put that in you to make you think about put that in you to make you think about it that like, hey, this could be a thing it that like, hey, this could be a thing it that like, hey, this could be a thing that's possible. that's possible. that's possible. >> And and whether it works or it doesn't, >> And and whether it works or it doesn't, >> And and whether it works or it doesn't, it's going to teach you invaluable it's going to teach you invaluable it's going to teach you invaluable lessons. Yeah. Like that's the thing. lessons. Yeah. Like that's the thing. lessons. Yeah. Like that's the thing. You just got to make the make the You just got to make the make the You just got to make the make the plunge. No pun intended. plunge. No pun intended. plunge. No pun intended. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Um >> Um >> Um >> Yeah. Who do we become on this journey >> Yeah. Who do we become on this journey >> Yeah. Who do we become on this journey is almost more important than than where is almost more important than than where is almost more important than than where what are we doing in the business. I what are we doing in the business. I what are we doing in the business. I mean, that's what I really enjoy is mean, that's what I really enjoy is mean, that's what I really enjoy is like, I have to grow. I have to change like, I have to grow. I have to change like, I have to grow. I have to change my mindset. I have to adopt new my mindset. I have to adopt new my mindset. I have to adopt new attitudes, new outlooks so I can do the
46:00attitudes, new outlooks so I can do the attitudes, new outlooks so I can do the next challenge. Because old David, the next challenge. Because old David, the next challenge. Because old David, the David from 10 years ago, although he David from 10 years ago, although he David from 10 years ago, although he might have been a pretty good waiter, might have been a pretty good waiter, might have been a pretty good waiter, you know, a pretty good guy who was you know, a pretty good guy who was you know, a pretty good guy who was really doing good at work, he wasn't the really doing good at work, he wasn't the really doing good at work, he wasn't the David that could handle the the problems David that could handle the the problems David that could handle the the problems and tasks of today. And I know the David and tasks of today. And I know the David and tasks of today. And I know the David that's today is not going to be able to that's today is not going to be able to that's today is not going to be able to handle the problems and tasks of the handle the problems and tasks of the handle the problems and tasks of the next five years. Like, I've got to next five years. Like, I've got to next five years. Like, I've got to continue to grow. I got to continue to continue to grow. I got to continue to continue to grow. I got to continue to to learn new stuff to to to make new to learn new stuff to to to make new to learn new stuff to to to make new relationships with other people and and relationships with other people and and relationships with other people and and to be challenged. There's a lot of to be challenged. There's a lot of to be challenged. There's a lot of entrepreneurs that I meet up at rest and entrepreneurs that I meet up at rest and entrepreneurs that I meet up at rest and recovery, guys who run their own recovery, guys who run their own recovery, guys who run their own business, whether they're a therapist or business, whether they're a therapist or business, whether they're a therapist or uh but but I meet a lot of people that uh but but I meet a lot of people that uh but but I meet a lot of people that are doing the same thing that we're kind are doing the same thing that we're kind are doing the same thing that we're kind of doing just in a different capacity of doing just in a different capacity of doing just in a different capacity and and I think that that going into a and and I think that that going into a and and I think that that going into a place like that and getting to build place like that and getting to build place like that and getting to build community, getting to hang out with community, getting to hang out with community, getting to hang out with people, getting to talk, and getting to people, getting to talk, and getting to people, getting to talk, and getting to say, "Yeah, I'm having a rough time, but say, "Yeah, I'm having a rough time, but say, "Yeah, I'm having a rough time, but I'm figuring this stuff out." That's I'm figuring this stuff out." That's I'm figuring this stuff out." That's been really cool for me because I being been really cool for me because I being been really cool for me because I being an entrepreneur is like living on an an entrepreneur is like living on an an entrepreneur is like living on an island, you know? You feel like island, you know? You feel like island, you know? You feel like everybody is like all the boats are everybody is like all the boats are everybody is like all the boats are going past you. You just left there. You going past you. You just left there. You going past you. You just left there. You don't know what you're going to do next. don't know what you're going to do next. don't know what you're going to do next. But being around to hang around you and But being around to hang around you and But being around to hang around you and hang around some of the other people hang around some of the other people hang around some of the other people I've met up there just been amazing to
47:00I've met up there just been amazing to I've met up there just been amazing to see like no, they're in there trying. see like no, they're in there trying. see like no, they're in there trying. They're doing something. They're doing something. They're doing something. >> And the my favorite part about it is a >> And the my favorite part about it is a >> And the my favorite part about it is a changing lives, but b I really like changing lives, but b I really like changing lives, but b I really like creating jobs. Like I love that. I've creating jobs. Like I love that. I've creating jobs. Like I love that. I've noticed you've made some new hires since noticed you've made some new hires since noticed you've made some new hires since you've been up there. We're constantly you've been up there. We're constantly you've been up there. We're constantly hiring people to do work for us. were hiring people to do work for us. were hiring people to do work for us. were working with people, but getting to be a working with people, but getting to be a working with people, but getting to be a part of like because that was in my part of like because that was in my part of like because that was in my addiction. I was in I was in a hotel addiction. I was in I was in a hotel addiction. I was in I was in a hotel room or I was in a La La Land like I was room or I was in a La La Land like I was room or I was in a La La Land like I was so isolated. I didn't think about so isolated. I didn't think about so isolated. I didn't think about anything. But now I'm thinking about anything. But now I'm thinking about anything. But now I'm thinking about like, you know, am I paying this person like, you know, am I paying this person like, you know, am I paying this person enough? You know, is this job good for enough? You know, is this job good for enough? You know, is this job good for them? Will they do a good job? Will they them? Will they do a good job? Will they them? Will they do a good job? Will they enjoy it? And like to look at society as enjoy it? And like to look at society as enjoy it? And like to look at society as something that I'm a a part of, but also something that I'm a a part of, but also something that I'm a a part of, but also I can affect and change and make better. I can affect and change and make better. I can affect and change and make better. Like, dude, I've never had that Like, dude, I've never had that Like, dude, I've never had that fulfillment. And that's the coolest fulfillment. And that's the coolest fulfillment. And that's the coolest thing about being an entrepreneur is thing about being an entrepreneur is thing about being an entrepreneur is like, I get to change society. I get to like, I get to change society. I get to like, I get to change society. I get to add to it. I don't know if you get that add to it. I don't know if you get that add to it. I don't know if you get that warm fuzzy whenever you make a hire, but warm fuzzy whenever you make a hire, but warm fuzzy whenever you make a hire, but it's really really cool for me. I really it's really really cool for me. I really it's really really cool for me. I really love that. love that. love that. >> So, yeah. And and I'm definitely still >> So, yeah. And and I'm definitely still >> So, yeah. And and I'm definitely still in kind of the building block stages of in kind of the building block stages of in kind of the building block stages of this new thing. But also, I've noticed
48:00this new thing. But also, I've noticed this new thing. But also, I've noticed how much I've evolved and changed as as how much I've evolved and changed as as how much I've evolved and changed as as an adult and in my own recovery journey, an adult and in my own recovery journey, an adult and in my own recovery journey, like with how I how I see relationships like with how I how I see relationships like with how I how I see relationships and like how important it is to make and like how important it is to make and like how important it is to make sure that like people that work for me sure that like people that work for me sure that like people that work for me feel good and they feel good about the feel good and they feel good about the feel good and they feel good about the job situation and I can effectively job situation and I can effectively job situation and I can effectively communicate and have the right communicate and have the right communicate and have the right boundaries and like a lot of that is boundaries and like a lot of that is boundaries and like a lot of that is like directly tied to this work that like directly tied to this work that like directly tied to this work that I've done and like codependency and I've done and like codependency and I've done and like codependency and family of origin stuff and like figuring family of origin stuff and like figuring family of origin stuff and like figuring out how like cuz man the old version of out how like cuz man the old version of out how like cuz man the old version of me was just like something something me was just like something something me was just like something something happened I instantly was emotionally happened I instantly was emotionally happened I instantly was emotionally invested in, invested in, invested in, >> you know, like just for instance on the >> you know, like just for instance on the >> you know, like just for instance on the way here like somebody's supposed to be way here like somebody's supposed to be way here like somebody's supposed to be at the retail spot and they're not there at the retail spot and they're not there at the retail spot and they're not there and I was just like, you know what, if and I was just like, you know what, if and I was just like, you know what, if they don't show up or if it doesn't they don't show up or if it doesn't they don't show up or if it doesn't happen today because they had a happen today because they had a happen today because they had a scheduling conflict, it's fine. Like scheduling conflict, it's fine. Like scheduling conflict, it's fine. Like >> I've already co punched today. >> I've already co punched today. >> I've already co punched today. >> Yeah, >> Yeah, >> Yeah, >> everything's going to be fine. Like the >> everything's going to be fine. Like the >> everything's going to be fine. Like the world's not going to end. Um, but to world's not going to end. Um, but to world's not going to end. Um, but to just have that like to follow yourself just have that like to follow yourself just have that like to follow yourself in the journey and to see how your in the journey and to see how your in the journey and to see how your business evolves and how you handle business evolves and how you handle business evolves and how you handle business evolves and like you just I
49:00business evolves and like you just I business evolves and like you just I don't know. It's cool to to watch and don't know. It's cool to to watch and don't know. It's cool to to watch and and and and it is fulfilling to know and and and it is fulfilling to know and and and it is fulfilling to know that like this is a community. These are that like this is a community. These are that like this is a community. These are people that like I could hang out with people that like I could hang out with people that like I could hang out with or like we could, you know, go eat or like we could, you know, go eat or like we could, you know, go eat dinner and and then like it's just a dinner and and then like it's just a dinner and and then like it's just a good vibe, good vibe, good vibe, >> you know? That's that's powerful. And >> you know? That's that's powerful. And >> you know? That's that's powerful. And and as I move forward, I really like and as I move forward, I really like and as I move forward, I really like that's really something I want to do is that's really something I want to do is that's really something I want to do is to be able to provide more because like to be able to provide more because like to be able to provide more because like I'm more so in a I always say I have I I'm more so in a I always say I have I I'm more so in a I always say I have I can offer jobs. I don't I'm not really can offer jobs. I don't I'm not really can offer jobs. I don't I'm not really to the point of offering careers by any to the point of offering careers by any to the point of offering careers by any means yet, but like even just having a means yet, but like even just having a means yet, but like even just having a cool job, cool job, cool job, >> you know, I always wanted cool jobs. >> you know, I always wanted cool jobs. >> you know, I always wanted cool jobs. >> Absolutely. >> Absolutely. >> Absolutely. >> And uh I never maybe knew how to find >> And uh I never maybe knew how to find >> And uh I never maybe knew how to find them or I was too busy, them or I was too busy, them or I was too busy, >> you know, being promiscuous. >> you know, being promiscuous. >> you know, being promiscuous. Uh, yep. But like, yeah, you know, just Uh, yep. But like, yeah, you know, just Uh, yep. But like, yeah, you know, just just feeling seeing your own growth just feeling seeing your own growth just feeling seeing your own growth through the thing that you're building. through the thing that you're building. through the thing that you're building. I mean, like I said, the first business I mean, like I said, the first business I mean, like I said, the first business was introduction to adulting. This feels was introduction to adulting. This feels was introduction to adulting. This feels more like adultting. more like adultting. more like adultting. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Because you can't lie. You can't there's >> Because you can't lie. You can't there's >> Because you can't lie. You can't there's no truth you can withhold. Like who you no truth you can withhold. Like who you no truth you can withhold. Like who you are is people see it, you know? And I
50:00are is people see it, you know? And I are is people see it, you know? And I I've just become more transparent with I've just become more transparent with I've just become more transparent with who I am and where I'm at and how I who I am and where I'm at and how I who I am and where I'm at and how I conversate and and it's like it just conversate and and it's like it just conversate and and it's like it just creates a a space of intimacy, this creates a a space of intimacy, this creates a a space of intimacy, this particular thing. And I'm just really particular thing. And I'm just really particular thing. And I'm just really grateful for that. grateful for that. grateful for that. >> Yeah, we're grateful to have you in the >> Yeah, we're grateful to have you in the >> Yeah, we're grateful to have you in the community, man. I'm I'm really am glad community, man. I'm I'm really am glad community, man. I'm I'm really am glad the value that we get, what we pay, and the value that we get, what we pay, and the value that we get, what we pay, and how much time we spend up there are not how much time we spend up there are not how much time we spend up there are not like we spend a lot of time up there. I like we spend a lot of time up there. I like we spend a lot of time up there. I mean, we get a lot of benefit from it. mean, we get a lot of benefit from it. mean, we get a lot of benefit from it. We Rachel and I had a really good We Rachel and I had a really good We Rachel and I had a really good session in there yesterday. I spent session in there yesterday. I spent session in there yesterday. I spent about two hours up there. I did about two hours up there. I did about two hours up there. I did hyperbaric and then I got to hang out hyperbaric and then I got to hang out hyperbaric and then I got to hang out with my buddy Zach um who's actually with my buddy Zach um who's actually with my buddy Zach um who's actually going to come on next week and talk going to come on next week and talk going to come on next week and talk about some stuff some trauma work. Um, about some stuff some trauma work. Um, about some stuff some trauma work. Um, but you guys who are listening, uh, you but you guys who are listening, uh, you but you guys who are listening, uh, you know, like, share this podcast, but know, like, share this podcast, but know, like, share this podcast, but especially if you're an entrepreneur, if especially if you're an entrepreneur, if especially if you're an entrepreneur, if you're somebody who's trying to think you're somebody who's trying to think you're somebody who's trying to think about doing something like super about doing something like super about doing something like super daunting, something that you don't think daunting, something that you don't think daunting, something that you don't think you can you could do. You know, uh, me you can you could do. You know, uh, me you can you could do. You know, uh, me me and and Danny and Chris, we're all me and and Danny and Chris, we're all me and and Danny and Chris, we're all here to support you and we'd love for here to support you and we'd love for here to support you and we'd love for you to, you know, comment or reach out you to, you know, comment or reach out you to, you know, comment or reach out to us. If if there's something that's to us. If if there's something that's to us. If if there's something that's just crazy that you're thinking about just crazy that you're thinking about just crazy that you're thinking about doing that you feel called to do, you doing that you feel called to do, you doing that you feel called to do, you know, let us know. come on the podcast
51:00know, let us know. come on the podcast know, let us know. come on the podcast and talk about it, reach out to some and talk about it, reach out to some and talk about it, reach out to some other peers, some other people, because other peers, some other people, because other peers, some other people, because that's that's what recovery is all about that's that's what recovery is all about that's that's what recovery is all about is leaving the baggage behind and is leaving the baggage behind and is leaving the baggage behind and getting on a new train, going to do getting on a new train, going to do getting on a new train, going to do something new. If I didn't have the something new. If I didn't have the something new. If I didn't have the ability to recreate and and to ability to recreate and and to ability to recreate and and to participate in life, then there'd be participate in life, then there'd be participate in life, then there'd be nothing worth living for. But the nothing worth living for. But the nothing worth living for. But the reality is, I get to do things. And reality is, I get to do things. And reality is, I get to do things. And although I don't control the outcome, I although I don't control the outcome, I although I don't control the outcome, I get to decide how much I put into get to decide how much I put into get to decide how much I put into something. And when I pour myself into something. And when I pour myself into something. And when I pour myself into something, good things happen. My wife's something, good things happen. My wife's something, good things happen. My wife's always telling me about work. She's always telling me about work. She's always telling me about work. She's like, "I don't care what you do, but like, "I don't care what you do, but like, "I don't care what you do, but when you put your heart and soul into when you put your heart and soul into when you put your heart and soul into something, good stuff happens. So, just something, good stuff happens. So, just something, good stuff happens. So, just go put it into something. Just go do go put it into something. Just go do go put it into something. Just go do it." And she's right. What happens is it." And she's right. What happens is it." And she's right. What happens is when I don't when I operate in fear and when I don't when I operate in fear and when I don't when I operate in fear and I only go in halfway or 25%, don't I only go in halfway or 25%, don't I only go in halfway or 25%, don't really get honest, don't really pour really get honest, don't really pour really get honest, don't really pour myself into it. That's when I get myself into it. That's when I get myself into it. That's when I get negative results and I start to get negative results and I start to get negative results and I start to get that. That's when the critic really gets that. That's when the critic really gets that. That's when the critic really gets loud. When I jump into it, if nothing loud. When I jump into it, if nothing loud. When I jump into it, if nothing else, I forget about everything else. else, I forget about everything else. else, I forget about everything else. And that's like nirvana. Just forgetting And that's like nirvana. Just forgetting And that's like nirvana. Just forgetting about all the drama. Just like, you know about all the drama. Just like, you know about all the drama. Just like, you know what? it might not be successful, but I what? it might not be successful, but I what? it might not be successful, but I hadn't thought about anything else but hadn't thought about anything else but hadn't thought about anything else but this challenge. And that's that's what this challenge. And that's that's what this challenge. And that's that's what it's worth. So, if you guys are out it's worth. So, if you guys are out it's worth. So, if you guys are out there struggling with something, there struggling with something, there struggling with something, challenging something, uh, you're
52:00challenging something, uh, you're challenging something, uh, you're dealing with with this stuff, reach out dealing with with this stuff, reach out dealing with with this stuff, reach out to us. We'd love to hear about it. So, to us. We'd love to hear about it. So, to us. We'd love to hear about it. So, where do you want restroom recovery to where do you want restroom recovery to where do you want restroom recovery to go over the next couple of years? You go over the next couple of years? You go over the next couple of years? You want to you want to see how this one want to you want to see how this one want to you want to see how this one pans out? You want to grow some more? pans out? You want to grow some more? pans out? You want to grow some more? You looking at different side business? You looking at different side business? You looking at different side business? >> Yeah. So, this has kind of been the And >> Yeah. So, this has kind of been the And >> Yeah. So, this has kind of been the And I I I want to parlay off what you just I I I want to parlay off what you just I I I want to parlay off what you just said because that's powerful. And I said because that's powerful. And I said because that's powerful. And I think that all entrepreneurial steps are think that all entrepreneurial steps are think that all entrepreneurial steps are like your stages and like stage one is like your stages and like stage one is like your stages and like stage one is like throwing [ __ ] at the wall. So like like throwing [ __ ] at the wall. So like like throwing [ __ ] at the wall. So like throw [ __ ] at the wall, but then know throw [ __ ] at the wall, but then know throw [ __ ] at the wall, but then know that like there is a step-by-step that like there is a step-by-step that like there is a step-by-step process to everything. It's not this process to everything. It's not this process to everything. It's not this unknown beast that you can't conquer. unknown beast that you can't conquer. unknown beast that you can't conquer. It's just like having a you know manual It's just like having a you know manual It's just like having a you know manual operating procedure of how to use operating procedure of how to use operating procedure of how to use something. So like yeah, reach out to us something. So like yeah, reach out to us something. So like yeah, reach out to us or whoever if you have questions about or whoever if you have questions about or whoever if you have questions about more than likely it's a logistical thing more than likely it's a logistical thing more than likely it's a logistical thing that one of us has gone through. that one of us has gone through. that one of us has gone through. Promise. Um but as far as rest recovery Promise. Um but as far as rest recovery Promise. Um but as far as rest recovery is concerned, I definitely want to uh is concerned, I definitely want to uh is concerned, I definitely want to uh I've got some ideas. Um this has been I've got some ideas. Um this has been I've got some ideas. Um this has been like school for me. I I'm learning like school for me. I I'm learning like school for me. I I'm learning because I come from retail and I thought because I come from retail and I thought because I come from retail and I thought that like okay, I can only sell this one
53:00that like okay, I can only sell this one that like okay, I can only sell this one thing or this one product and like I'm thing or this one product and like I'm thing or this one product and like I'm that's not it. It's like this is a new that's not it. It's like this is a new that's not it. It's like this is a new business that I just like business and I business that I just like business and I business that I just like business and I like trying things and and starting like trying things and and starting like trying things and and starting stuff. Um, but once I get this to a stuff. Um, but once I get this to a stuff. Um, but once I get this to a certain point, I would say we're certain point, I would say we're certain point, I would say we're probably about 60% where I want to be probably about 60% where I want to be probably about 60% where I want to be um, as far as like the overall like how um, as far as like the overall like how um, as far as like the overall like how many people we can accommodate, etc. And many people we can accommodate, etc. And many people we can accommodate, etc. And I need to know and see what this can I need to know and see what this can I need to know and see what this can really run and what what the numbers really run and what what the numbers really run and what what the numbers look like. But I definitely would like look like. But I definitely would like look like. But I definitely would like to open some more um thinking about to open some more um thinking about to open some more um thinking about some, you know, possibly another one or some, you know, possibly another one or some, you know, possibly another one or two in the metro area and some other two in the metro area and some other two in the metro area and some other places that are a little bit um more places that are a little bit um more places that are a little bit um more busy. And we're not more busy, but just busy. And we're not more busy, but just busy. And we're not more busy, but just a different vibe where I think because a different vibe where I think because a different vibe where I think because it's one of those things, it's like a it's one of those things, it's like a it's one of those things, it's like a gym. You're not going to drive from gym. You're not going to drive from gym. You're not going to drive from Madison to come to work out at Finding Madison to come to work out at Finding Madison to come to work out at Finding Fitness, Fitness, Fitness, >> right? >> right? >> right? >> Uh but if it's close to where you are, >> Uh but if it's close to where you are, >> Uh but if it's close to where you are, there's no reason why you wouldn't at there's no reason why you wouldn't at there's no reason why you wouldn't at least consider trying it out. Um, but least consider trying it out. Um, but least consider trying it out. Um, but yeah, I want to open up some more yeah, I want to open up some more yeah, I want to open up some more locations and and really really know locations and and really really know locations and and really really know what the operation the dayto-day of what
54:00what the operation the dayto-day of what what the operation the dayto-day of what this business looks like, which I think this business looks like, which I think this business looks like, which I think I'm starting to get a great idea what I'm starting to get a great idea what I'm starting to get a great idea what that is. that is. that is. >> There's a couple spots just right down >> There's a couple spots just right down >> There's a couple spots just right down the street you should really look into. the street you should really look into. the street you should really look into. I think you should really really look I think you should really really look I think you should really really look into that. into that. into that. >> What? Like commercial >> What? Like commercial >> What? Like commercial >> expanding? Yeah. Yeah. Bring bringing >> expanding? Yeah. Yeah. Bring bringing >> expanding? Yeah. Yeah. Bring bringing one to Madison would be incredible. one to Madison would be incredible. one to Madison would be incredible. >> Yeah. I mean, that's exactly what I was >> Yeah. I mean, that's exactly what I was >> Yeah. I mean, that's exactly what I was thinking. I just didn't say it out loud. thinking. I just didn't say it out loud. thinking. I just didn't say it out loud. >> But Madison, Oxford, I'm looking into >> But Madison, Oxford, I'm looking into >> But Madison, Oxford, I'm looking into some stuff in Oxford. Uh, I do think some stuff in Oxford. Uh, I do think some stuff in Oxford. Uh, I do think Madison could be great. I just know that Madison could be great. I just know that Madison could be great. I just know that the price of rent here is it's a little the price of rent here is it's a little the price of rent here is it's a little bit more expensive, but you know, I I I bit more expensive, but you know, I I I bit more expensive, but you know, I I I thought about potentially creating a a a thought about potentially creating a a a thought about potentially creating a a a spa space that's bigger. spa space that's bigger. spa space that's bigger. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Where you could have, you know, six to >> Where you could have, you know, six to >> Where you could have, you know, six to eight saunas. Six to eight plunges and eight saunas. Six to eight plunges and eight saunas. Six to eight plunges and then you have then you have then you have >> What was everybody talking about? The >> What was everybody talking about? The >> What was everybody talking about? The mothership. It was like a 15 person, mothership. It was like a 15 person, mothership. It was like a 15 person, >> bro. >> bro. >> bro. >> Yeah. In New York. >> Yeah. In New York. >> Yeah. In New York. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. Um Yeah. Cuz I was talking to a >> Yeah. Um Yeah. Cuz I was talking to a >> Yeah. Um Yeah. Cuz I was talking to a friend who's moving to New York and I friend who's moving to New York and I friend who's moving to New York and I forgot what the name of that space was. forgot what the name of that space was. forgot what the name of that space was. That's freaking cool. That's freaking cool. That's freaking cool. >> So, there's different models that you we >> So, there's different models that you we >> So, there's different models that you we could do. I thought about like having could do. I thought about like having could do. I thought about like having having a spot that I know you don't do
55:00having a spot that I know you don't do having a spot that I know you don't do yoga, but just having like an ongoing yoga, but just having like an ongoing yoga, but just having like an ongoing yoga class. yoga class. yoga class. >> It's like going in going like it doesn't >> It's like going in going like it doesn't >> It's like going in going like it doesn't stop. You know what I'm saying? Having stop. You know what I'm saying? Having stop. You know what I'm saying? Having instructors come in and go out and so instructors come in and go out and so instructors come in and go out and so you go in, get a 15, 20 minute stretch, you go in, get a 15, 20 minute stretch, you go in, get a 15, 20 minute stretch, and then hop in the mothership sauna, and then hop in the mothership sauna, and then hop in the mothership sauna, you know? It's like holds 15 people. you know? It's like holds 15 people. you know? It's like holds 15 people. It's just it's just hot. It's just a hot It's just it's just hot. It's just a hot It's just it's just hot. It's just a hot box, you know? box, you know? box, you know? >> But no, I was just going to say I love >> But no, I was just going to say I love >> But no, I was just going to say I love the idea of the membership models, the idea of the membership models, the idea of the membership models, though. Yes. and seeing who shows up and though. Yes. and seeing who shows up and though. Yes. and seeing who shows up and how often they and you get the best how often they and you get the best how often they and you get the best value because if you come in and it's value because if you come in and it's value because if you come in and it's unlimited and you use it, you're going unlimited and you use it, you're going unlimited and you use it, you're going to get a great value. to get a great value. to get a great value. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> And it's just uh it just feels more >> And it's just uh it just feels more >> And it's just uh it just feels more exclusive. It's not like, hey, let me exclusive. It's not like, hey, let me exclusive. It's not like, hey, let me sell you this thing, whatever, whatever. sell you this thing, whatever, whatever. sell you this thing, whatever, whatever. Just like, yeah, come for free the first Just like, yeah, come for free the first Just like, yeah, come for free the first time and sign up if you want or don't. time and sign up if you want or don't. time and sign up if you want or don't. It doesn't matter, but just like come It doesn't matter, but just like come It doesn't matter, but just like come try it and then if you like it and you try it and then if you like it and you try it and then if you like it and you sign up, then you can come whenever you sign up, then you can come whenever you sign up, then you can come whenever you want to. Um, so that's been really cool want to. Um, so that's been really cool want to. Um, so that's been really cool because it helps me focus on like and because it helps me focus on like and because it helps me focus on like and because in my own journey like my because in my own journey like my because in my own journey like my codependency is like I want to control codependency is like I want to control codependency is like I want to control everything. I want to control every everything. I want to control every everything. I want to control every transaction. My emotions are the moods transaction. My emotions are the moods transaction. My emotions are the moods of my gross in the retail space and like of my gross in the retail space and like of my gross in the retail space and like whereas with this I can kind of just whereas with this I can kind of just whereas with this I can kind of just take a backseat to that and and focus take a backseat to that and and focus take a backseat to that and and focus more on like community building and like
56:00more on like community building and like more on like community building and like outreach and stuff like that and just outreach and stuff like that and just outreach and stuff like that and just having conversations and I'm not locked having conversations and I'm not locked having conversations and I'm not locked into this like every sale of every into this like every sale of every into this like every sale of every moment. Yeah. I'm locked into the story. moment. Yeah. I'm locked into the story. moment. Yeah. I'm locked into the story. I'm locked into helping and like that I'm locked into helping and like that I'm locked into helping and like that like that's what I want to do is help like that's what I want to do is help like that's what I want to do is help people. people. people. >> Like that's what brings me joy. >> Like that's what brings me joy. >> Like that's what brings me joy. >> And a product business versus a service >> And a product business versus a service >> And a product business versus a service business are completely different. I business are completely different. I business are completely different. I mean, a product business is like, "My mean, a product business is like, "My mean, a product business is like, "My product's better than anybody else's and product's better than anybody else's and product's better than anybody else's and you should buy it here because I deliver you should buy it here because I deliver you should buy it here because I deliver it to you with the most amount of it to you with the most amount of it to you with the most amount of trust." Whereas a service business is trust." Whereas a service business is trust." Whereas a service business is like, "No, we're we're doing a certain like, "No, we're we're doing a certain like, "No, we're we're doing a certain thing here, and it's not going to be for thing here, and it's not going to be for thing here, and it's not going to be for everybody, but if it's for you, if I am everybody, but if it's for you, if I am everybody, but if it's for you, if I am if you are the avatar we're looking for, if you are the avatar we're looking for, if you are the avatar we're looking for, you're going to love it, you're going to love it, you're going to love it, >> right?" >> right?" >> right?" >> And then you and that's when you get to >> And then you and that's when you get to >> And then you and that's when you get to build that community of people that are build that community of people that are build that community of people that are just like, "Every time we walk in the just like, "Every time we walk in the just like, "Every time we walk in the door, I'm bumping into some I'm bumping door, I'm bumping into some I'm bumping door, I'm bumping into some I'm bumping into a soulmate, even if I never met into a soulmate, even if I never met into a soulmate, even if I never met them, right? Because like this, y'all them, right? Because like this, y'all them, right? Because like this, y'all are all doing the same thing that I'm are all doing the same thing that I'm are all doing the same thing that I'm looking for. looking to improve my looking for. looking to improve my looking for. looking to improve my physical, emotional, and spiritual body physical, emotional, and spiritual body physical, emotional, and spiritual body in these machines and it's working and in these machines and it's working and in these machines and it's working and then you're you're getting that then you're you're getting that then you're you're getting that >> right. And then you got you you got >> right. And then you got you you got >> right. And then you got you you got different levels and different like of different levels and different like of different levels and different like of where people are at in their journey and where people are at in their journey and where people are at in their journey and in their wellness experience or their in their wellness experience or their in their wellness experience or their recovery etc. or their life and you're
57:00recovery etc. or their life and you're recovery etc. or their life and you're all it's that building that support all it's that building that support all it's that building that support having that support system and like having that support system and like having that support system and like seeing random people make friends you seeing random people make friends you seeing random people make friends you know I love that so much know I love that so much know I love that so much >> I'm just like I always try and you know >> I'm just like I always try and you know >> I'm just like I always try and you know make people feel comfortable and safe make people feel comfortable and safe make people feel comfortable and safe and like hey you know if you don't mind and like hey you know if you don't mind and like hey you know if you don't mind there's someone in the traditional sauna there's someone in the traditional sauna there's someone in the traditional sauna right now if you want to make a friend I right now if you want to make a friend I right now if you want to make a friend I think you should go in this sauna next think you should go in this sauna next think you should go in this sauna next and usually 99 times out of 100 they're and usually 99 times out of 100 they're and usually 99 times out of 100 they're like okay like okay like okay >> and it's just yeah that community and >> and it's just yeah that community and >> and it's just yeah that community and that service I don't know just it It that service I don't know just it It that service I don't know just it It makes you feel something. makes you feel something. makes you feel something. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> It's powerful. It's And it's like that's >> It's powerful. It's And it's like that's >> It's powerful. It's And it's like that's where you know the thing is outside of where you know the thing is outside of where you know the thing is outside of >> what you can control and like you're >> what you can control and like you're >> what you can control and like you're you're building something that's that's you're building something that's that's you're building something that's that's bigger than you. bigger than you. bigger than you. >> I'm going to say something real quick. >> I'm going to say something real quick. >> I'm going to say something real quick. So, one of the things that I think stops So, one of the things that I think stops So, one of the things that I think stops a lot of people from pursuing their a lot of people from pursuing their a lot of people from pursuing their dreams is them having this idea and then dreams is them having this idea and then dreams is them having this idea and then like you kind of touched on not knowing like you kind of touched on not knowing like you kind of touched on not knowing like like having this big picture. Well, like like having this big picture. Well, like like having this big picture. Well, I could never do that. I could never do I could never do that. I could never do I could never do that. I could never do that. Three years ago, I had never that. Three years ago, I had never that. Three years ago, I had never listened to a podcast. much less been on listened to a podcast. much less been on listened to a podcast. much less been on a podcast. But I had this God put this
58:00a podcast. But I had this God put this a podcast. But I had this God put this thing in my mind. He's like, I want you thing in my mind. He's like, I want you thing in my mind. He's like, I want you to go get involved with Drew Hassan's to go get involved with Drew Hassan's to go get involved with Drew Hassan's podcast in some way. podcast in some way. podcast in some way. >> And I was like, I don't know what a >> And I was like, I don't know what a >> And I was like, I don't know what a podcast is, much less I don't want to be podcast is, much less I don't want to be podcast is, much less I don't want to be on a like, but there was something like, on a like, but there was something like, on a like, but there was something like, hold on, like more I thought about it, hold on, like more I thought about it, hold on, like more I thought about it, like okay, yeah, I'll reach out to Drew like okay, yeah, I'll reach out to Drew like okay, yeah, I'll reach out to Drew and I'll get involved with this podcast and I'll get involved with this podcast and I'll get involved with this podcast in some way. And just as a result of me in some way. And just as a result of me in some way. And just as a result of me kind of listening to my heart, but also kind of listening to my heart, but also kind of listening to my heart, but also being okay with I don't know what the being okay with I don't know what the being okay with I don't know what the hell I'm doing, but I have this passion. hell I'm doing, but I have this passion. hell I'm doing, but I have this passion. I I have this thing on my heart that if I I have this thing on my heart that if I I have this thing on my heart that if I work hard, something good is going to I work hard, something good is going to I work hard, something good is going to happen. I don't know what it is. I don't happen. I don't know what it is. I don't happen. I don't know what it is. I don't know what it looks like. I don't know know what it looks like. I don't know know what it looks like. I don't know anything about the future. I don't know anything about the future. I don't know anything about the future. I don't know [ __ ] But I know that if I'm passionate [ __ ] But I know that if I'm passionate [ __ ] But I know that if I'm passionate about something and I work really, about something and I work really, about something and I work really, really hard, really hard, really hard, >> the worst that's going to happen is I'm >> the worst that's going to happen is I'm >> the worst that's going to happen is I'm going to land in space. going to land in space. going to land in space. >> Mhm. >> Mhm. >> I may not go to Mars, but I'm going to >> I may not go to Mars, but I'm going to >> I may not go to Mars, but I'm going to land in space somewhere. So, if you're land in space somewhere. So, if you're land in space somewhere. So, if you're if you're considering starting your own if you're considering starting your own if you're considering starting your own business, especially for those of us in business, especially for those of us in business, especially for those of us in recovery, like it's it's hard for a lot
59:00recovery, like it's it's hard for a lot recovery, like it's it's hard for a lot of us. It I'll speak for myself. It's of us. It I'll speak for myself. It's of us. It I'll speak for myself. It's hard for me to to pour a bunch of time hard for me to to pour a bunch of time hard for me to to pour a bunch of time and effort into making somebody else and effort into making somebody else and effort into making somebody else rich. rich. rich. >> It's just it's not in my blood. I love >> It's just it's not in my blood. I love >> It's just it's not in my blood. I love working hard. I love serving people, but working hard. I love serving people, but working hard. I love serving people, but I can't I it's not the same when when I can't I it's not the same when when I can't I it's not the same when when I'm having to do that because this guy I'm having to do that because this guy I'm having to do that because this guy is telling me that I have to. So, if you is telling me that I have to. So, if you is telling me that I have to. So, if you have this, if you just have a passion or have this, if you just have a passion or have this, if you just have a passion or an idea and you think that this would be an idea and you think that this would be an idea and you think that this would be something that really fits well with something that really fits well with something that really fits well with you, but you don't know how to do it, you, but you don't know how to do it, you, but you don't know how to do it, great. Take one step forward. That's it. great. Take one step forward. That's it. great. Take one step forward. That's it. Just take one little step forward and Just take one little step forward and Just take one little step forward and see if that's something that fits with see if that's something that fits with see if that's something that fits with you. And if you get really, really you. And if you get really, really you. And if you get really, really excited about it, keep going and keep excited about it, keep going and keep excited about it, keep going and keep going and keep going. Eventually, you're going and keep going. Eventually, you're going and keep going. Eventually, you're going to get to where you are, Chris. going to get to where you are, Chris. going to get to where you are, Chris. You're going to get to where you are, You're going to get to where you are, You're going to get to where you are, David. You're going to get to where I David. You're going to get to where I David. You're going to get to where I am. And and even though you had no idea am. And and even though you had no idea am. And and even though you had no idea what the you were doing, guess what? You what the you were doing, guess what? You what the you were doing, guess what? You worked hard. You never gave up. Most worked hard. You never gave up. Most worked hard. You never gave up. Most importantly, you never gave up. importantly, you never gave up. importantly, you never gave up. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> And now look at us now. Things are >> And now look at us now. Things are >> And now look at us now. Things are happening. Things things are happening
1:00happening. Things things are happening happening. Things things are happening that we could have never imagined. Mhm. that we could have never imagined. Mhm. that we could have never imagined. Mhm. >> And it all started with well for me >> And it all started with well for me >> And it all started with well for me getting sober and also you know being getting sober and also you know being getting sober and also you know being willing to listen to the universe or God willing to listen to the universe or God willing to listen to the universe or God or whatever you want to say being able or whatever you want to say being able or whatever you want to say being able to just listen and say okay maybe this to just listen and say okay maybe this to just listen and say okay maybe this is something that'll fit for me. I'm is something that'll fit for me. I'm is something that'll fit for me. I'm committed to working hard. I don't know committed to working hard. I don't know committed to working hard. I don't know what the future looks like and that's what the future looks like and that's what the future looks like and that's okay but I'm going to work hard. You can okay but I'm going to work hard. You can okay but I'm going to work hard. You can do that. The sky's is the limit. do that. The sky's is the limit. do that. The sky's is the limit. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Showing up >> Showing up >> Showing up >> dude. That's it. >> dude. That's it. >> dude. That's it. >> Showing up doing it. >> Showing up doing it. >> Showing up doing it. >> That's all this stuff is. Man, I can't I >> That's all this stuff is. Man, I can't I >> That's all this stuff is. Man, I can't I wish we we could probably sit around and wish we we could probably sit around and wish we we could probably sit around and talk about cold punches and running talk about cold punches and running talk about cold punches and running business. In fact, we probably ought to business. In fact, we probably ought to business. In fact, we probably ought to have you come back on some other time have you come back on some other time have you come back on some other time and just talking about business because and just talking about business because and just talking about business because I mean that's that's something that I mean that's that's something that I mean that's that's something that really it's really it's really hard for really it's really it's really hard for really it's really it's really hard for me to do is like there's different AA me to do is like there's different AA me to do is like there's different AA meetings and stuff for like lawyers and meetings and stuff for like lawyers and meetings and stuff for like lawyers and judges and doctors and nurses and things judges and doctors and nurses and things judges and doctors and nurses and things like sometimes I want a 12step meeting like sometimes I want a 12step meeting like sometimes I want a 12step meeting for entrepreneurs because I feel like we for entrepreneurs because I feel like we for entrepreneurs because I feel like we got a certain set of of problems that got a certain set of of problems that got a certain set of of problems that are just really unique to us and we have are just really unique to us and we have are just really unique to us and we have to right to right to right >> we don't get to to to hit the the alarm >> we don't get to to to hit the the alarm >> we don't get to to to hit the the alarm clock and just not show up. We got every
1:01clock and just not show up. We got every clock and just not show up. We got every time the phone rings, every time the time the phone rings, every time the time the phone rings, every time the alarm, we got to be there. You were on alarm, we got to be there. You were on alarm, we got to be there. You were on the phone right before we started the phone right before we started the phone right before we started solving some crises. Like they're always solving some crises. Like they're always solving some crises. Like they're always happening. happening. happening. >> Hustling, hustling, hustling, hustling, >> Hustling, hustling, hustling, hustling, >> Hustling, hustling, hustling, hustling, >> working. Yeah. But we're doing stuff >> working. Yeah. But we're doing stuff >> working. Yeah. But we're doing stuff that nobody else wants. that nobody else wants. that nobody else wants. >> And it's not work. Like it's >> And it's not work. Like it's >> And it's not work. Like it's >> like we don't work Yeah. Yeah. It's fun. >> like we don't work Yeah. Yeah. It's fun. >> like we don't work Yeah. Yeah. It's fun. Like you're passionate about it. It's Like you're passionate about it. It's Like you're passionate about it. It's you you just hustle and you don't It you you just hustle and you don't It you you just hustle and you don't It doesn't feel bad. doesn't feel bad. doesn't feel bad. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Well, especially when you can >> Well, especially when you can >> Well, especially when you can emotionally regulate properly. emotionally regulate properly. emotionally regulate properly. >> That's it. >> That's it. >> That's it. >> You're not so triggered by everything. >> You're not so triggered by everything. >> You're not so triggered by everything. triggers become almost a thing they're triggers become almost a thing they're triggers become almost a thing they're like I don't know man I it's it's yeah I like I don't know man I it's it's yeah I like I don't know man I it's it's yeah I have my moments but I find that I like have my moments but I find that I like have my moments but I find that I like once I've started to work on my once I've started to work on my once I've started to work on my spiritual practice more and take it more spiritual practice more and take it more spiritual practice more and take it more seriously it's it's easier to to to just seriously it's it's easier to to to just seriously it's it's easier to to to just kind of zen out and and to take things kind of zen out and and to take things kind of zen out and and to take things one moment and one step at a time one moment and one step at a time one moment and one step at a time triggers are opportunities for growth triggers are opportunities for growth triggers are opportunities for growth period in this story period in this story period in this story >> I got a property right now that that's >> I got a property right now that that's >> I got a property right now that that's and let's just say it it needs and let's just say it it needs and let's just say it it needs improvement and the neighbor feels like improvement and the neighbor feels like improvement and the neighbor feels like it needs improvement and I've just it needs improvement and I've just it needs improvement and I've just blocked her on my phone about 6 months blocked her on my phone about 6 months blocked her on my phone about 6 months ago cuz I didn't want to hear from her
1:02ago cuz I didn't want to hear from her ago cuz I didn't want to hear from her anymore. Anyways, her attorney had my anymore. Anyways, her attorney had my anymore. Anyways, her attorney had my address and sent me a letter and it was address and sent me a letter and it was address and sent me a letter and it was uh get this mess cleaned up in 30 days uh get this mess cleaned up in 30 days uh get this mess cleaned up in 30 days or else or else. And you know what? or else or else. And you know what? or else or else. And you know what? Because of my emotional regul Because of my emotional regul Because of my emotional regul regulation, I literally gave zero [ __ ] regulation, I literally gave zero [ __ ] regulation, I literally gave zero [ __ ] I just like all right, let's get over I just like all right, let's get over I just like all right, let's get over there and cut the grass. Let's figure it there and cut the grass. Let's figure it there and cut the grass. Let's figure it out. But normally, like I would have out. But normally, like I would have out. But normally, like I would have gone and taken a dump in her yard. Yeah. gone and taken a dump in her yard. Yeah. gone and taken a dump in her yard. Yeah. >> You know, like I mean just blown it and >> You know, like I mean just blown it and >> You know, like I mean just blown it and just like you know what? just like you know what? just like you know what? >> She's probably having a bad day. Yeah. >> She's probably having a bad day. Yeah. >> She's probably having a bad day. Yeah. I'd be upset too. We'll do the next I'd be upset too. We'll do the next I'd be upset too. We'll do the next right thing as best we can, but I'm not right thing as best we can, but I'm not right thing as best we can, but I'm not going to let this thing. We're doing the going to let this thing. We're doing the going to let this thing. We're doing the best we can with the resources we have best we can with the resources we have best we can with the resources we have available. All right, let's just keep available. All right, let's just keep available. All right, let's just keep going. But those literally used to drive going. But those literally used to drive going. But those literally used to drive me bonkers. I would lose sleep. I would me bonkers. I would lose sleep. I would me bonkers. I would lose sleep. I would >> just how am I going to get back at this >> just how am I going to get back at this >> just how am I going to get back at this person and just like, dude, it's just person and just like, dude, it's just person and just like, dude, it's just she's upset because you didn't cut the she's upset because you didn't cut the she's upset because you didn't cut the grass. Just go cut the grass. Just be grass. Just go cut the grass. Just be grass. Just go cut the grass. Just be done with it. And Amen. done. done with it. And Amen. done. done with it. And Amen. done. >> Right. How can I find the solution? >> Right. How can I find the solution? >> Right. How can I find the solution? >> Yeah. Yeah. >> Yeah. Yeah. >> Get instead of going to jail. >> Get instead of going to jail. >> Get instead of going to jail. >> Well, and I always Exactly. And I always >> Well, and I always Exactly. And I always >> Well, and I always Exactly. And I always say there's, you know, people that see say there's, you know, people that see say there's, you know, people that see solutions and people that see problems. solutions and people that see problems. solutions and people that see problems. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> So like, and I know at times I've been >> So like, and I know at times I've been >> So like, and I know at times I've been somebody that I can only focus on the
1:03somebody that I can only focus on the somebody that I can only focus on the problem. problem. problem. >> And I don't want to be that person >> And I don't want to be that person >> And I don't want to be that person anymore. I want to find the solution, anymore. I want to find the solution, anymore. I want to find the solution, >> you know? >> you know? >> you know? >> Well, you are, dude. You're find >> Well, you are, dude. You're find >> Well, you are, dude. You're find solutions and you're bringing solutions. solutions and you're bringing solutions. solutions and you're bringing solutions. And I'm so glad to have you, a in my And I'm so glad to have you, a in my And I'm so glad to have you, a in my world, b to have you on the show today. world, b to have you on the show today. world, b to have you on the show today. >> I appreciate you, bro. >> I appreciate you, bro. >> I appreciate you, bro. >> Yeah, we got to get you back on it, bro. >> Yeah, we got to get you back on it, bro. >> Yeah, we got to get you back on it, bro. >> I I would love love to come back. I'm >> I I would love love to come back. I'm >> I I would love love to come back. I'm honored to be here. honored to be here. honored to be here. >> Awesome. >> Awesome. >> Awesome. >> Um Yeah. and >> Um Yeah. and >> Um Yeah. and you know just uh because you know I've you know just uh because you know I've you know just uh because you know I've done a lot of I've I've done a lot of done a lot of I've I've done a lot of done a lot of I've I've done a lot of selfwork in past year or so and it's selfwork in past year or so and it's selfwork in past year or so and it's just been like it's been cool to just been like it's been cool to just been like it's been cool to structure that structure that structure that >> is like just learning more about my >> is like just learning more about my >> is like just learning more about my emotions and and where I'm at because emotions and and where I'm at because emotions and and where I'm at because like as you know I do more of an like as you know I do more of an like as you know I do more of an emotional sobriety program. So, it's emotional sobriety program. So, it's emotional sobriety program. So, it's been it's been cool to be around you been it's been cool to be around you been it's been cool to be around you guys and be inspired by some fellow guys and be inspired by some fellow guys and be inspired by some fellow travelers and yeah, travelers and yeah, travelers and yeah, >> they're in and out of different >> they're in and out of different >> they're in and out of different fellowships, but also adding the spice fellowships, but also adding the spice fellowships, but also adding the spice of the cold plunge and then the working of the cold plunge and then the working of the cold plunge and then the working out and all the things and like I don't out and all the things and like I don't out and all the things and like I don't know, it's just I' I feel like I've been know, it's just I' I feel like I've been know, it's just I' I feel like I've been really inspired lately and so I'm really really inspired lately and so I'm really really inspired lately and so I'm really grateful to be here and to be friends grateful to be here and to be friends grateful to be here and to be friends with y'all.
1:04with y'all. with y'all. Until next time, Until next time, Until next time, >> we'll see you on the recovery lab. >> we'll see you on the recovery lab. >> we'll see you on the recovery lab. >> Thanks, bro. >> Thanks, bro. >> Thanks, bro. [Music]