E7 Jacob Mark Cold Therapy for Health and Recovery
00:00welcome to the quantum healthy podcast welcome to the quantum healthy podcast I'm Andia a licensed addiction counselor I'm Andia a licensed addiction counselor I'm Andia a licensed addiction counselor and along with my co-host Laura kissman and along with my co-host Laura kissman and along with my co-host Laura kissman a Quantum nutritionist we will be a Quantum nutritionist we will be a Quantum nutritionist we will be inviting expert scientists clinicians inviting expert scientists clinicians inviting expert scientists clinicians survivors and thrivers to distill their survivors and thrivers to distill their survivors and thrivers to distill their Pearls of Wisdom attained from applying Pearls of Wisdom attained from applying Pearls of Wisdom attained from applying Quantum biology to their fields of Quantum biology to their fields of Quantum biology to their fields of research and everyday lives our goal is research and everyday lives our goal is research and everyday lives our goal is to bring you easy to understand to bring you easy to understand to bring you easy to understand principles and practices about the study principles and practices about the study principles and practices about the study of light water and magnetism so you can of light water and magnetism so you can of light water and magnetism so you can take your health and to your own take your health and to your own take your health and to your own [Music] [Music] [Music] hands welcome to the quantum healthy hands welcome to the quantum healthy hands welcome to the quantum healthy podcast today's guest is is an exciting podcast today's guest is is an exciting podcast today's guest is is an exciting one for me because I know him personally one for me because I know him personally one for me because I know him personally and it's Jacob Jacob Mark Jacob I have a and it's Jacob Jacob Mark Jacob I have a and it's Jacob Jacob Mark Jacob I have a question you do have another longer last question you do have another longer last question you do have another longer last name maybe you want to pronounce that name maybe you want to pronounce that name maybe you want to pronounce that for us but I think you're known on for us but I think you're known on for us but I think you're known on social media more as Jacob Mark correct social media more as Jacob Mark correct social media more as Jacob Mark correct yeah my last name's to hendler which is
01:00yeah my last name's to hendler which is yeah my last name's to hendler which is a lot longer and harder to pronounce so a lot longer and harder to pronounce so a lot longer and harder to pronounce so I go with my middle name your middle I go with my middle name your middle I go with my middle name your middle name okay so okay but welcome Jacob name okay so okay but welcome Jacob name okay so okay but welcome Jacob we're super excited to have you here we're super excited to have you here we're super excited to have you here Jacob I'll tell you a little bit about Jacob I'll tell you a little bit about Jacob I'll tell you a little bit about Jacob he is a firefighter uh I want to Jacob he is a firefighter uh I want to Jacob he is a firefighter uh I want to say by day but I know it's a it's got he say by day but I know it's a it's got he say by day but I know it's a it's got he got some shift work in there which we got some shift work in there which we got some shift work in there which we don't love in the quantum World neither don't love in the quantum World neither don't love in the quantum World neither do I hard on the body yeah yeah maybe do I hard on the body yeah yeah maybe do I hard on the body yeah yeah maybe that's why you do all these other things that's why you do all these other things that's why you do all these other things but to mitigate the effects of that but but to mitigate the effects of that but but to mitigate the effects of that but I'll just note a few few things that I I'll just note a few few things that I I'll just note a few few things that I know about you you're a certified life know about you you're a certified life know about you you're a certified life coach and neurolinguistic programming coach and neurolinguistic programming coach and neurolinguistic programming practitioner and a certified Wim Hoff practitioner and a certified Wim Hoff practitioner and a certified Wim Hoff instructor that's really how I know instructor that's really how I know instructor that's really how I know Jacob and an oxygen Advantage instructor Jacob and an oxygen Advantage instructor Jacob and an oxygen Advantage instructor which I have taken your Course once but which I have taken your Course once but which I have taken your Course once but not your master class yet and a Yoga not your master class yet and a Yoga not your master class yet and a Yoga Nidra facilitator there's so much more Nidra facilitator there's so much more Nidra facilitator there's so much more to Jacob and I hope we can bring that to Jacob and I hope we can bring that to Jacob and I hope we can bring that all out today but something I I caught all out today but something I I caught all out today but something I I caught looking at your website was that you you looking at your website was that you you looking at your website was that you you do all these things because you want to do all these things because you want to do all these things because you want to help people be become the drivers put
02:00help people be become the drivers put help people be become the drivers put them back in the driver's seat of their them back in the driver's seat of their them back in the driver's seat of their life and uh and I realized that you life and uh and I realized that you life and uh and I realized that you youve worked with thousands of people youve worked with thousands of people youve worked with thousands of people around the globe from all walks of life around the globe from all walks of life around the globe from all walks of life and you do workshops courses you coach and you do workshops courses you coach and you do workshops courses you coach you do Retreats and really they're all you do Retreats and really they're all you do Retreats and really they're all what's so special is that they're all what's so special is that they're all what's so special is that they're all rooted in mindfulness also exploring rooted in mindfulness also exploring rooted in mindfulness also exploring people's Limitless potential you really people's Limitless potential you really people's Limitless potential you really really want to reignite people's really want to reignite people's really want to reignite people's Adventure their life and I and I now I'm Adventure their life and I and I now I'm Adventure their life and I and I now I'm I'm learning some more about getting I'm learning some more about getting I'm learning some more about getting people to play again and and laugh again people to play again and and laugh again people to play again and and laugh again and so I hope we touch on that as as the and so I hope we touch on that as as the and so I hope we touch on that as as the interview goes on but it just seems to interview goes on but it just seems to interview goes on but it just seems to me that you you're trying to help me that you you're trying to help me that you you're trying to help people's stress level and really you try people's stress level and really you try people's stress level and really you try to bring out the best in in people so to bring out the best in in people so to bring out the best in in people so I'm hoping today we can bring out the I'm hoping today we can bring out the I'm hoping today we can bring out the best of of you in this interview and best of of you in this interview and best of of you in this interview and there's some things we really want to there's some things we really want to there's some things we really want to talk about and you know obviously want talk about and you know obviously want talk about and you know obviously want to touch on the women off method and
03:00to touch on the women off method and to touch on the women off method and that one of the three pillars of that that one of the three pillars of that that one of the three pillars of that which we'll get you to explain but which we'll get you to explain but which we'll get you to explain but really is cold because cold therapy is really is cold because cold therapy is really is cold because cold therapy is is is a popular modality in the quantum is is a popular modality in the quantum is is a popular modality in the quantum health strategies that we try to health strategies that we try to health strategies that we try to practice and so I'm just going to hand practice and so I'm just going to hand practice and so I'm just going to hand over to Andia to introduce her to you as over to Andia to introduce her to you as over to Andia to introduce her to you as well and and let her take it from there well and and let her take it from there well and and let her take it from there yeah thanks you so much for being here yeah thanks you so much for being here yeah thanks you so much for being here Jacob so I know a little bit about your Jacob so I know a little bit about your Jacob so I know a little bit about your story because I follow you on social story because I follow you on social story because I follow you on social media but I would love just for you to media but I would love just for you to media but I would love just for you to set up set us up with a little bit of set up set us up with a little bit of set up set us up with a little bit of your history I know that like me you are your history I know that like me you are your history I know that like me you are you know you're in recovery or you've you know you're in recovery or you've you know you're in recovery or you've struggled in the past with addiction and struggled in the past with addiction and struggled in the past with addiction and I also know you talk a lot about I also know you talk a lot about I also know you talk a lot about paradigm shift I call it paradigm shift paradigm shift I call it paradigm shift paradigm shift I call it paradigm shift but you know this idea that the people but you know this idea that the people but you know this idea that the people that you know raise us or the people that you know raise us or the people that you know raise us or the people that are in our world they everybody has that are in our world they everybody has that are in our world they everybody has their own perspective of life and we put their own perspective of life and we put their own perspective of life and we put meaning on things and I I love all of meaning on things and I I love all of meaning on things and I I love all of that and I so I to touch on that but
04:00that and I so I to touch on that but that and I so I to touch on that but first I think it would be fitting for first I think it would be fitting for first I think it would be fitting for you to just share a little bit about you to just share a little bit about you to just share a little bit about your story and where you came from and your story and where you came from and your story and where you came from and how you got here okay well first thanks how you got here okay well first thanks how you got here okay well first thanks for having me this is really exciting for having me this is really exciting for having me this is really exciting like I said before I feel out of my like I said before I feel out of my like I said before I feel out of my element without the glasses on so I'll element without the glasses on so I'll element without the glasses on so I'll have to get a pair of those for next have to get a pair of those for next have to get a pair of those for next time but we can help you there yeah I time but we can help you there yeah I time but we can help you there yeah I know you gave me some really great know you gave me some really great know you gave me some really great resources already which is amazing so my resources already which is amazing so my resources already which is amazing so my story where do I begin yeah so I I grew story where do I begin yeah so I I grew story where do I begin yeah so I I grew up just like a conventional young kid no up just like a conventional young kid no up just like a conventional young kid no no Scotia which was really looking back no Scotia which was really looking back no Scotia which was really looking back now amazing back then I was really eager now amazing back then I was really eager now amazing back then I was really eager to get out of Nova Scotia because it's to get out of Nova Scotia because it's to get out of Nova Scotia because it's very small and if you want to explore very small and if you want to explore very small and if you want to explore the world you feel like you're kind of the world you feel like you're kind of the world you feel like you're kind of locked in so I went to University which locked in so I went to University which locked in so I went to University which Looking Back Now I really had no Looking Back Now I really had no Looking Back Now I really had no business going to University I think one business going to University I think one business going to University I think one thing I realized is a lot of kids and thing I realized is a lot of kids and thing I realized is a lot of kids and just people in general are really just people in general are really just people in general are really persuaded by the opinions of others and persuaded by the opinions of others and persuaded by the opinions of others and what they think they should be doing what they think they should be doing what they think they should be doing rather than feeling what they want to be
05:00rather than feeling what they want to be rather than feeling what they want to be doing for themselves and so I I doing for themselves and so I I doing for themselves and so I I definitely did a lot of things to definitely did a lot of things to definitely did a lot of things to appease a lot of people and anyway so I appease a lot of people and anyway so I appease a lot of people and anyway so I went to went to school and basically I went to went to school and basically I went to went to school and basically I just this is where my mindset was at was just this is where my mindset was at was just this is where my mindset was at was I was just choosing a place to go where I was just choosing a place to go where I was just choosing a place to go where I I mean I chose a program where I knew I I mean I chose a program where I knew I I mean I chose a program where I knew I could go away for a whole year I could go away for a whole year I could go away for a whole year traveling so I took an international traveling so I took an international traveling so I took an international business program and I only took it business program and I only took it business program and I only took it because I got to go live in France for a because I got to go live in France for a because I got to go live in France for a year and basically then my whole goal year and basically then my whole goal year and basically then my whole goal was to party and that was it uh did you was to party and that was it uh did you was to party and that was it uh did you at least improve your French I did yeah at least improve your French I did yeah at least improve your French I did yeah oh definitely that was I mean I'm oh definitely that was I mean I'm oh definitely that was I mean I'm grateful so I need to say I am grateful grateful so I need to say I am grateful grateful so I need to say I am grateful for the whole experience I mean I made a for the whole experience I mean I made a for the whole experience I mean I made a lot of great friends and there's a lot lot of great friends and there's a lot lot of great friends and there's a lot of good I can take out of it but yeah so of good I can take out of it but yeah so of good I can take out of it but yeah so fast forward so I I mean I went went fast forward so I I mean I went went fast forward so I I mean I went went there I I there I I there I I basically went to France and I didn't basically went to France and I didn't basically went to France and I didn't really appreciate where I was in life really appreciate where I was in life really appreciate where I was in life every time we'd go traveling I was kind every time we'd go traveling I was kind every time we'd go traveling I was kind of just trying to find cities where I of just trying to find cities where I of just trying to find cities where I could party it wasn't really about could party it wasn't really about could party it wasn't really about taking in the culture or anything like taking in the culture or anything like taking in the culture or anything like that at that time I mean I was in my that at that time I mean I was in my that at that time I mean I was in my early 20s so so then I guess I won't go
06:00early 20s so so then I guess I won't go early 20s so so then I guess I won't go through all the details but fast forward through all the details but fast forward through all the details but fast forward a little bit I kind of lived my life in a little bit I kind of lived my life in a little bit I kind of lived my life in a sense where I didn't really set a lot a sense where I didn't really set a lot a sense where I didn't really set a lot of goals there wasn't a lot of substance of goals there wasn't a lot of substance of goals there wasn't a lot of substance to my life I basically got whatever job to my life I basically got whatever job to my life I basically got whatever job I could get to then party on the I could get to then party on the I could get to then party on the weekends and I was constantly escaping weekends and I was constantly escaping weekends and I was constantly escaping so whether that was through partying so whether that was through partying so whether that was through partying drugs alcohol you name it my friends drugs alcohol you name it my friends drugs alcohol you name it my friends were doing the same thing at the time were doing the same thing at the time were doing the same thing at the time and so I never really thought too much and so I never really thought too much and so I never really thought too much about it I never knew how much I was about it I never knew how much I was about it I never knew how much I was suffering I didn't know how much deep suffering I didn't know how much deep suffering I didn't know how much deep work there was to do I was still really work there was to do I was still really work there was to do I was still really young and usually in my experience young and usually in my experience young and usually in my experience there's some some sort of catalyst that there's some some sort of catalyst that there's some some sort of catalyst that happens in people's lives where you're happens in people's lives where you're happens in people's lives where you're either confronted with an experience either confronted with an experience either confronted with an experience that shows you what's there or you meet that shows you what's there or you meet that shows you what's there or you meet somebody who acts as a mirror for us and somebody who acts as a mirror for us and somebody who acts as a mirror for us and you see okay how they're living their you see okay how they're living their you see okay how they're living their lives and you kind of start comparing lives and you kind of start comparing lives and you kind of start comparing yourselves as we all do and you can yourselves as we all do and you can yourselves as we all do and you can realize okay well I'm either you know realize okay well I'm either you know realize okay well I'm either you know you can either I'm doing great or I
07:00you can either I'm doing great or I you can either I'm doing great or I don't feel great about myself is usually don't feel great about myself is usually don't feel great about myself is usually what happens and so for me it was what happens and so for me it was what happens and so for me it was definitely meeting somebody and got I definitely meeting somebody and got I definitely meeting somebody and got I got lucky I'm definitely lucky that she got lucky I'm definitely lucky that she got lucky I'm definitely lucky that she stuck with me I'll say that it's my stuck with me I'll say that it's my stuck with me I'll say that it's my partner partner Jess and and she has partner partner Jess and and she has partner partner Jess and and she has this awareness about her or she had at this awareness about her or she had at this awareness about her or she had at that time and still does but it was well that time and still does but it was well that time and still does but it was well before her years like she started a lot before her years like she started a lot before her years like she started a lot of personal development and so on at of personal development and so on at of personal development and so on at like 15 16 years old and so when we met like 15 16 years old and so when we met like 15 16 years old and so when we met I was a Manchild I'll say I mean I had I was a Manchild I'll say I mean I had I was a Manchild I'll say I mean I had never really been in a serious never really been in a serious never really been in a serious relationship I had no idea what I wanted relationship I had no idea what I wanted relationship I had no idea what I wanted for myself I was drinking smoking lots for myself I was drinking smoking lots for myself I was drinking smoking lots of dope doing all these things and I was of dope doing all these things and I was of dope doing all these things and I was confronted with this person who seemed confronted with this person who seemed confronted with this person who seemed like she had this life to her and had like she had this life to her and had like she had this life to her and had this understanding of life that I didn't this understanding of life that I didn't this understanding of life that I didn't even know existed because personal even know existed because personal even know existed because personal development meditating like going to a development meditating like going to a development meditating like going to a Tony Robins seminar like all that was I Tony Robins seminar like all that was I Tony Robins seminar like all that was I thought that was a waste of time I was thought that was a waste of time I was thought that was a waste of time I was like people who go there are weird or like people who go there are weird or like people who go there are weird or whatever you know and and so then I was whatever you know and and so then I was whatever you know and and so then I was confronted with this I was like okay confronted with this I was like okay confronted with this I was like okay okay well this is the way she's living
08:00okay well this is the way she's living okay well this is the way she's living her life and I'm comparing now how I'm her life and I'm comparing now how I'm her life and I'm comparing now how I'm living mine so I had a choice to make living mine so I had a choice to make living mine so I had a choice to make I'm either going to let's you know make I'm either going to let's you know make I'm either going to let's you know make some improvements actually set some some improvements actually set some some improvements actually set some goals and do something with my life or goals and do something with my life or goals and do something with my life or I'll continue down this path and I'll continue down this path and I'll continue down this path and probably end up who knows where probably probably end up who knows where probably probably end up who knows where probably somewhere not that great so luckily I I somewhere not that great so luckily I I somewhere not that great so luckily I I made some changes and I I set some goals made some changes and I I set some goals made some changes and I I set some goals as you mentioned I became a professional as you mentioned I became a professional as you mentioned I became a professional firefighter but all along the way I was firefighter but all along the way I was firefighter but all along the way I was still grasping for that quick thing still grasping for that quick thing still grasping for that quick thing that's going to make me happy so kind of that's going to make me happy so kind of that's going to make me happy so kind of just like drugs and alcohol and escaping just like drugs and alcohol and escaping just like drugs and alcohol and escaping were doing I thought firefighting was were doing I thought firefighting was were doing I thought firefighting was going to basically be my ticket to going to basically be my ticket to going to basically be my ticket to Everlasting happiness I thought that you Everlasting happiness I thought that you Everlasting happiness I thought that you know you get this career I'm never going know you get this career I'm never going know you get this career I'm never going to have to really worry about improving to have to really worry about improving to have to really worry about improving myself or doing anything else this is myself or doing anything else this is myself or doing anything else this is going to set me free for the rest of going to set me free for the rest of going to set me free for the rest of life and I think we all intuitively know life and I think we all intuitively know life and I think we all intuitively know but we still kind of live by this this but we still kind of live by this this but we still kind of live by this this way of grasping for happiness in the way of grasping for happiness in the way of grasping for happiness in the sense that we know that happiness comes sense that we know that happiness comes sense that we know that happiness comes from within we know that if somebody from within we know that if somebody from within we know that if somebody says a hilarious joke and if you're in a
09:00says a hilarious joke and if you're in a says a hilarious joke and if you're in a pissed-off mood you're probably not pissed-off mood you're probably not pissed-off mood you're probably not going to laugh but if you're in a good going to laugh but if you're in a good going to laugh but if you're in a good move you get mood you give yourself move you get mood you give yourself move you get mood you give yourself permission you're going to laugh so we permission you're going to laugh so we permission you're going to laugh so we know this but we all try to get that know this but we all try to get that know this but we all try to get that career the family the relationships the career the family the relationships the career the family the relationships the house the car the things and so I was house the car the things and so I was house the car the things and so I was still very much in that mindset and so still very much in that mindset and so still very much in that mindset and so when I realized okay this isn't bringing when I realized okay this isn't bringing when I realized okay this isn't bringing me that happiness I thought it would I me that happiness I thought it would I me that happiness I thought it would I started looking more into what are these started looking more into what are these started looking more into what are these people teaching like Tony Robbins where people teaching like Tony Robbins where people teaching like Tony Robbins where I think a lot of people start their I think a lot of people start their I think a lot of people start their personal devel Journeys what are they personal devel Journeys what are they personal devel Journeys what are they teaching like and I was very curious so teaching like and I was very curious so teaching like and I was very curious so I went on my own sort of Journey I went I went on my own sort of Journey I went I went on my own sort of Journey I went to the Tony Robins seminars this is to the Tony Robins seminars this is to the Tony Robins seminars this is where I decided to become certified as a where I decided to become certified as a where I decided to become certified as a life coach neurolinguistic programming life coach neurolinguistic programming life coach neurolinguistic programming came in all these things and it wasn't came in all these things and it wasn't came in all these things and it wasn't until I met whim whm Hoff that I until I met whim whm Hoff that I until I met whim whm Hoff that I realized and I actually felt it in my realized and I actually felt it in my realized and I actually felt it in my bones through just the way he carries bones through just the way he carries bones through just the way he carries himself the kind of man that he is if himself the kind of man that he is if himself the kind of man that he is if you get to know him and his teachings you get to know him and his teachings you get to know him and his teachings and the words he says that I actually and the words he says that I actually and the words he says that I actually fully then like understood and believe
10:00fully then like understood and believe fully then like understood and believe that happiness comes from within and so that happiness comes from within and so that happiness comes from within and so just pause just pause just pause you such a profound place sorry but some you such a profound place sorry but some you such a profound place sorry but some people may not know who Wim Hoff is that people may not know who Wim Hoff is that people may not know who Wim Hoff is that are listening just just give a little are listening just just give a little are listening just just give a little background yeah so so whim is you may background yeah so so whim is you may background yeah so so whim is you may know him if if you've heard of the know him if if you've heard of the know him if if you've heard of the Iceman he is this this guy who has Iceman he is this this guy who has Iceman he is this this guy who has really done a lot of extreme things in really done a lot of extreme things in really done a lot of extreme things in terms of cold and breath work um and his terms of cold and breath work um and his terms of cold and breath work um and his whole mission is to help people become whole mission is to help people become whole mission is to help people become happy healthy and strong naturally so happy healthy and strong naturally so happy healthy and strong naturally so that's the Cliff's Notes I mean go that's the Cliff's Notes I mean go that's the Cliff's Notes I mean go search him there's tons on him online search him there's tons on him online search him there's tons on him online but he's he's an amazing human and he but he's he's an amazing human and he but he's he's an amazing human and he has he started What's called the Wim has he started What's called the Wim has he started What's called the Wim Hoff method so so yeah through meeting Hoff method so so yeah through meeting Hoff method so so yeah through meeting him I finally I finally understood that him I finally I finally understood that him I finally I finally understood that happiness comes from within and then I happiness comes from within and then I happiness comes from within and then I in connection with that I realized that in connection with that I realized that in connection with that I realized that happiness as a goal of life is really a happiness as a goal of life is really a happiness as a goal of life is really a a futile goal because emotions are a futile goal because emotions are a futile goal because emotions are always fleeting and if we just try to always fleeting and if we just try to always fleeting and if we just try to hold on to the good ones then we're hold on to the good ones then we're hold on to the good ones then we're going to be suffering because
11:00going to be suffering because going to be suffering because naturally life is up and down and you naturally life is up and down and you naturally life is up and down and you have to go through those those dark have to go through those those dark have to go through those those dark times to to have the the good times it's times to to have the the good times it's times to to have the the good times it's just like you can't have daylight just like you can't have daylight just like you can't have daylight without without having night you can't without without having night you can't without without having night you can't have summer or good weather without also have summer or good weather without also have summer or good weather without also having rain and storms and other things having rain and storms and other things having rain and storms and other things so I I kind of got to that place where I so I I kind of got to that place where I so I I kind of got to that place where I realized okay I'm just perpetuating my realized okay I'm just perpetuating my realized okay I'm just perpetuating my suffering also by always searching for suffering also by always searching for suffering also by always searching for happiness and then I think that happiness and then I think that happiness and then I think that introduction to the Wim Hoff method I I introduction to the Wim Hoff method I I introduction to the Wim Hoff method I I will probably get into this but I will probably get into this but I will probably get into this but I experienced a lot of healing in my own experienced a lot of healing in my own experienced a lot of healing in my own life which then led me down this whole life which then led me down this whole life which then led me down this whole path of helping others in this way that path of helping others in this way that path of helping others in this way that that we mentioned that I'm doing now and that we mentioned that I'm doing now and that we mentioned that I'm doing now and that's where we are today yeah that's that's where we are today yeah that's that's where we are today yeah that's awesome you just touched on the awesome you just touched on the awesome you just touched on the universal law a universal law and that universal law a universal law and that universal law a universal law and that is the law of Rhythm the law of Rhythm is the law of Rhythm the law of Rhythm is the law of Rhythm the law of Rhythm yes the That's the Law of Rhythm what yes the That's the Law of Rhythm what yes the That's the Law of Rhythm what goes up must come down everything has an goes up must come down everything has an goes up must come down everything has an opposite right that's right and and we opposite right that's right and and we opposite right that's right and and we as humans go with that flow and I know as humans go with that flow and I know as humans go with that flow and I know in Buddhist teachings yeah are if in Buddhist teachings yeah are if in Buddhist teachings yeah are if constantly that you know Desiring
12:00constantly that you know Desiring constantly that you know Desiring Desiring that happiness it yeah it leads Desiring that happiness it yeah it leads Desiring that happiness it yeah it leads to suffering um so that actually is new to suffering um so that actually is new to suffering um so that actually is new to me so thank you for yeah and sorry to me so thank you for yeah and sorry to me so thank you for yeah and sorry say as a mother of two boys you know say as a mother of two boys you know say as a mother of two boys you know still in their early 20s and going still in their early 20s and going still in their early 20s and going through their Journeys you know I through their Journeys you know I through their Journeys you know I actually I hope they listen to this this actually I hope they listen to this this actually I hope they listen to this this this will be a there's a lot of wisdom this will be a there's a lot of wisdom this will be a there's a lot of wisdom in that you know even if you think of in that you know even if you think of in that you know even if you think of kids and if especially like with with kids and if especially like with with kids and if especially like with with our children when they start crying a our children when they start crying a our children when they start crying a lot of parents don't want them to be lot of parents don't want them to be lot of parents don't want them to be crying and they try to do whatever they crying and they try to do whatever they crying and they try to do whatever they can to soothe them to stop crying and can to soothe them to stop crying and can to soothe them to stop crying and it's more so what I see would be it's more so what I see would be it's more so what I see would be beneficial I'm not a parent so I'm not beneficial I'm not a parent so I'm not beneficial I'm not a parent so I'm not going to say I I have a full grasp of going to say I I have a full grasp of going to say I I have a full grasp of this but letting them letting them cry this but letting them letting them cry this but letting them letting them cry and letting them know it's okay to cry and letting them know it's okay to cry and letting them know it's okay to cry you know and being more on that side of you know and being more on that side of you know and being more on that side of embracing those emotions if they get embracing those emotions if they get embracing those emotions if they get angry letting them be angry you know not angry letting them be angry you know not angry letting them be angry you know not feeling like it's bad to feel those feeling like it's bad to feel those feeling like it's bad to feel those negative emotions and that's where we negative emotions and that's where we negative emotions and that's where we start getting into the the full spectrum start getting into the the full spectrum start getting into the the full spectrum of feeling everything and being of feeling everything and being of feeling everything and being appreciative of everything it's a lot it appreciative of everything it's a lot it appreciative of everything it's a lot it comes back to Yin yinyang you probably
13:00comes back to Yin yinyang you probably comes back to Yin yinyang you probably heard of that that theory before that heard of that that theory before that heard of that that theory before that that philosophy so yeah yeah yeah I was that philosophy so yeah yeah yeah I was that philosophy so yeah yeah yeah I was a men's addiction counselor for many a men's addiction counselor for many a men's addiction counselor for many many years and yeah the it's the mask many years and yeah the it's the mask many years and yeah the it's the mask yeah many many men are are taught not to yeah many many men are are taught not to yeah many many men are are taught not to feel and and not to cry like you're you feel and and not to cry like you're you feel and and not to cry like you're you know it's a sign of weakness and that's know it's a sign of weakness and that's know it's a sign of weakness and that's actually how emotions get trapped in the actually how emotions get trapped in the actually how emotions get trapped in the body so yeah you were right on when you body so yeah you were right on when you body so yeah you were right on when you when you just explained that all right I when you just explained that all right I when you just explained that all right I I would add like I would add like I would add like my military background especially my military background especially my military background especially Military College you know you have you Military College you know you have you Military College you know you have you have to be tough through everything and have to be tough through everything and have to be tough through everything and yeah I yeah I won't go there some yeah I yeah I won't go there some yeah I yeah I won't go there some stories but yeah interesting well no you stories but yeah interesting well no you stories but yeah interesting well no you make a good point Laura yeah because it make a good point Laura yeah because it make a good point Laura yeah because it can happen for women just as equally as can happen for women just as equally as can happen for women just as equally as it does for men it does for men it does for men right so okay so I know that cult right so okay so I know that cult right so okay so I know that cult therapy definitely benefits people who therapy definitely benefits people who therapy definitely benefits people who are in recovery from addiction boosts are in recovery from addiction boosts are in recovery from addiction boosts our dopamine or oxytocin or no our dopamine or oxytocin or no our dopamine or oxytocin or no adrenaline or no abrine and it all adrenaline or no abrine and it all adrenaline or no abrine and it all equates to that ni like a better mood
14:00equates to that ni like a better mood equates to that ni like a better mood and mood fluctuation and irritability and mood fluctuation and irritability and mood fluctuation and irritability these are what we call postacute these are what we call postacute these are what we call postacute withdrawal Sy symptoms so I know this withdrawal Sy symptoms so I know this withdrawal Sy symptoms so I know this modality can help so many people so what modality can help so many people so what modality can help so many people so what we want to make sure we cover today is we want to make sure we cover today is we want to make sure we cover today is we want to dive really deep here into we want to dive really deep here into we want to dive really deep here into cold thermogenesis or cold therapy with cold thermogenesis or cold therapy with cold thermogenesis or cold therapy with you yeah you can maybe just start with you yeah you can maybe just start with you yeah you can maybe just start with explaining like maybe some of the key explaining like maybe some of the key explaining like maybe some of the key points to the the Wim Hoff method and points to the the Wim Hoff method and points to the the Wim Hoff method and and benefits we' to cover also safety and benefits we' to cover also safety and benefits we' to cover also safety and all all the things I'll let you and all all the things I'll let you and all all the things I'll let you start wherever you want to start I mean start wherever you want to start I mean start wherever you want to start I mean the Wim Hoff method really it's so the Wim Hoff method really it's so the Wim Hoff method really it's so there's three pillars to it there's there's three pillars to it there's there's three pillars to it there's there's breath work there there's there's breath work there there's there's breath work there there's mindset training and there's cold mindset training and there's cold mindset training and there's cold exposure and it's really just the way exposure and it's really just the way exposure and it's really just the way that he's combined the three together that he's combined the three together that he's combined the three together that makes the Wim Hof method so I think that makes the Wim Hof method so I think that makes the Wim Hof method so I think it's probably maybe more conducive to to it's probably maybe more conducive to to it's probably maybe more conducive to to the show to let's just talk about cold the show to let's just talk about cold the show to let's just talk about cold exposure outside of the Wim Hoff method exposure outside of the Wim Hoff method exposure outside of the Wim Hoff method and how benefits and and so I think the
15:00and how benefits and and so I think the and how benefits and and so I think the biggest thing for cold exposure well biggest thing for cold exposure well biggest thing for cold exposure well maybe not the biggest thing but I think maybe not the biggest thing but I think maybe not the biggest thing but I think that it's important to to understand that it's important to to understand that it's important to to understand what we're doing and why we're doing it what we're doing and why we're doing it what we're doing and why we're doing it because I see a lot of people exposing because I see a lot of people exposing because I see a lot of people exposing themselves to cold like I did early on themselves to cold like I did early on themselves to cold like I did early on having no idea I just was trying to having no idea I just was trying to having no idea I just was trying to challenge myself and then I see often it challenge myself and then I see often it challenge myself and then I see often it actually becomes a thing that people do actually becomes a thing that people do actually becomes a thing that people do mainly it can really turn into an egoic mainly it can really turn into an egoic mainly it can really turn into an egoic thing especially in terms of social thing especially in terms of social thing especially in terms of social media and just wanting to get the posts media and just wanting to get the posts media and just wanting to get the posts out and I think that this takes away out and I think that this takes away out and I think that this takes away from how powerful it is and the real from how powerful it is and the real from how powerful it is and the real purpose behind it and everyone will purpose behind it and everyone will purpose behind it and everyone will probably have a bit of their different probably have a bit of their different probably have a bit of their different take on it but for me there's two two take on it but for me there's two two take on it but for me there's two two main things that the cold really offers main things that the cold really offers main things that the cold really offers one is it's a I mean it's one of the one is it's a I mean it's one of the one is it's a I mean it's one of the best ways I know to put yourself best ways I know to put yourself best ways I know to put yourself directly into a stressful directly into a stressful directly into a stressful environment and to see how you manage environment and to see how you manage environment and to see how you manage stress stress
16:00stress and then to find peace within this and then to find peace within this and then to find peace within this stress so whenever I guide somebody in stress so whenever I guide somebody in stress so whenever I guide somebody in their first ice bath nine times out of their first ice bath nine times out of their first ice bath nine times out of 10 they're panicked their breath becomes 10 they're panicked their breath becomes 10 they're panicked their breath becomes extremely fast they want to get out extremely fast they want to get out extremely fast they want to get out right away they don't know what to do right away they don't know what to do right away they don't know what to do with a bit of coaching and and Trust in with a bit of coaching and and Trust in with a bit of coaching and and Trust in themselves they calm down and then they themselves they calm down and then they themselves they calm down and then they can have a full-on conversation and they can have a full-on conversation and they can have a full-on conversation and they can laugh with me while they're in this can laugh with me while they're in this can laugh with me while they're in this freezing cold water and so that's almost freezing cold water and so that's almost freezing cold water and so that's almost a metaphor or an example of a larger a metaphor or an example of a larger a metaphor or an example of a larger piece of life where you could be going piece of life where you could be going piece of life where you could be going through cha chaos in your life you could through cha chaos in your life you could through cha chaos in your life you could be going through a terrible situation at be going through a terrible situation at be going through a terrible situation at work a divorce whatever it is but to work a divorce whatever it is but to work a divorce whatever it is but to remember that just because these things remember that just because these things remember that just because these things are happening doesn't mean we have to are happening doesn't mean we have to are happening doesn't mean we have to lose our mindfulness and lose every part lose our mindfulness and lose every part lose our mindfulness and lose every part of ourselves we can kind of keep our of ourselves we can kind of keep our of ourselves we can kind of keep our Center so that's maybe even the most Center so that's maybe even the most Center so that's maybe even the most important thing the second thing I important thing the second thing I important thing the second thing I really love about it and I guess this is really love about it and I guess this is really love about it and I guess this is more I don't if this is the right word more I don't if this is the right word more I don't if this is the right word esoteric but more I'll explain it so esoteric but more I'll explain it so esoteric but more I'll explain it so it's a way to connect once again with it's a way to connect once again with it's a way to connect once again with mother nature for me anyway mother nature for me anyway mother nature for me anyway and I think that as humans and this
17:00and I think that as humans and this and I think that as humans and this probably comes back to the quantum World probably comes back to the quantum World probably comes back to the quantum World also with you guys is that we become so also with you guys is that we become so also with you guys is that we become so disconnected from nature and there's so disconnected from nature and there's so disconnected from nature and there's so many parts of nature that can help many parts of nature that can help many parts of nature that can help regulate us and actually teach us regulate us and actually teach us regulate us and actually teach us lessons so when we go to do our first lessons so when we go to do our first lessons so when we go to do our first ice bath also if I if I'm running a ice bath also if I if I'm running a ice bath also if I if I'm running a workshop I ask everybody how are you workshop I ask everybody how are you workshop I ask everybody how are you feeling most people are anxious they're feeling most people are anxious they're feeling most people are anxious they're nervous about their first ice bath and I nervous about their first ice bath and I nervous about their first ice bath and I was too my first time and my first for a was too my first time and my first for a was too my first time and my first for a while I was I was nervous I didn't want while I was I was nervous I didn't want while I was I was nervous I didn't want to be cold I didn't want that stress but to be cold I didn't want that stress but to be cold I didn't want that stress but I knew it was good for me and so what I knew it was good for me and so what I knew it was good for me and so what really helped me early on was to realize really helped me early on was to realize really helped me early on was to realize that when I'm about to go in that water that when I'm about to go in that water that when I'm about to go in that water I am in a sense about to connect with I am in a sense about to connect with I am in a sense about to connect with Mother Nature and in that moment if you Mother Nature and in that moment if you Mother Nature and in that moment if you can really appreciate what you're doing can really appreciate what you're doing can really appreciate what you're doing you can kind of slip into the position you can kind of slip into the position you can kind of slip into the position of the student and just realize the of the student and just realize the of the student and just realize the mother nature is here to teach you a mother nature is here to teach you a mother nature is here to teach you a lesson and there's no there's nothing lesson and there's no there's nothing lesson and there's no there's nothing that you have to achieve there's no I that you have to achieve there's no I that you have to achieve there's no I have to stay to minutes 5 minutes in the have to stay to minutes 5 minutes in the have to stay to minutes 5 minutes in the cold I have to get under over my
18:00cold I have to get under over my cold I have to get under over my shoulders I have to do this and we put shoulders I have to do this and we put shoulders I have to do this and we put all these variables on it that really all these variables on it that really all these variables on it that really cause a lot of pressure when really all cause a lot of pressure when really all cause a lot of pressure when really all we're doing is one learning how we we're doing is one learning how we we're doing is one learning how we handle stress and then looking at this handle stress and then looking at this handle stress and then looking at this progressively can we get better as we go progressively can we get better as we go progressively can we get better as we go and can we actually connect and learn and can we actually connect and learn and can we actually connect and learn lessons from other nature and those are lessons from other nature and those are lessons from other nature and those are really for me the two most important really for me the two most important really for me the two most important things and I think that those are not things and I think that those are not things and I think that those are not often talked about enough and also a lot often talked about enough and also a lot often talked about enough and also a lot of people have no idea that's what of people have no idea that's what of people have no idea that's what they're even doing and so now we have so they're even doing and so now we have so they're even doing and so now we have so many people who for one they're they're many people who for one they're they're many people who for one they're they're dipping which is great I love seeing a dipping which is great I love seeing a dipping which is great I love seeing a lot of people dip okay I'm not that's lot of people dip okay I'm not that's lot of people dip okay I'm not that's not at all the issue it's just that for not at all the issue it's just that for not at all the issue it's just that for one when we have so many people not one when we have so many people not one when we have so many people not really understanding what they're doing really understanding what they're doing really understanding what they're doing it can become very unsafe which which is it can become very unsafe which which is it can become very unsafe which which is a huge piece because not also not a huge piece because not also not a huge piece because not also not everybody should be dipping and if we everybody should be dipping and if we everybody should be dipping and if we aren't connected with the practice and aren't connected with the practice and aren't connected with the practice and also connected with ourselves as we're also connected with ourselves as we're also connected with ourselves as we're doing it listening to ourselves there doing it listening to ourselves there doing it listening to ourselves there are people who are adrenally fatigued are people who are adrenally fatigued are people who are adrenally fatigued there are people who are suffering from there are people who are suffering from there are people who are suffering from extreme stress who in my opinion extreme stress who in my opinion extreme stress who in my opinion shouldn't be cold dipping shouldn't be cold dipping shouldn't be cold dipping their adrenal glands and their system is
19:00their adrenal glands and their system is their adrenal glands and their system is just overburdened so less is more in just overburdened so less is more in just overburdened so less is more in that case and so when we just do these that case and so when we just do these that case and so when we just do these practices without having an practices without having an practices without having an understanding then we lose our ability understanding then we lose our ability understanding then we lose our ability to navigate if this is good for us or to navigate if this is good for us or to navigate if this is good for us or not and what's the purpose of doing this not and what's the purpose of doing this not and what's the purpose of doing this not sure if I answered your question but not sure if I answered your question but not sure if I answered your question but hopefully no that was beautiful and yeah hopefully no that was beautiful and yeah hopefully no that was beautiful and yeah I wanted to you know touch on this I wanted to you know touch on this I wanted to you know touch on this because when I first personally so I'm because when I first personally so I'm because when I first personally so I'm not as advanced as you and Laura I I am not as advanced as you and Laura I I am not as advanced as you and Laura I I am still just dipping that face in the bowl still just dipping that face in the bowl still just dipping that face in the bowl of ice water and haven't and haven't of ice water and haven't and haven't of ice water and haven't and haven't done a full dip yet but a lot of people done a full dip yet but a lot of people done a full dip yet but a lot of people like you know we just think kind of like you know we just think kind of like you know we just think kind of black and white right like oh cold black and white right like oh cold black and white right like oh cold therapy I have to you know go find an therapy I have to you know go find an therapy I have to you know go find an ice cold lake and jump in it and there ice cold lake and jump in it and there ice cold lake and jump in it and there is you know we can work up to that so is you know we can work up to that so is you know we can work up to that so yeah could you talk a little bit about yeah could you talk a little bit about yeah could you talk a little bit about like things people can do to work up like things people can do to work up like things people can do to work up with it and how one might know that with it and how one might know that with it and how one might know that they're ready they're ready they're ready to progress to the next phase safely I
20:00to progress to the next phase safely I to progress to the next phase safely I think I mean safety is a great great think I mean safety is a great great think I mean safety is a great great thing you you brought that up so the thing you you brought that up so the thing you you brought that up so the first thing especially as if we first thing especially as if we first thing especially as if we connected to the Wim Hoff method what we connected to the Wim Hoff method what we connected to the Wim Hoff method what we teach is well first if people listen to teach is well first if people listen to teach is well first if people listen to this and they consider the whm Hof this and they consider the whm Hof this and they consider the whm Hof method just quickly we never do the method just quickly we never do the method just quickly we never do the breath work because people will think breath work because people will think breath work because people will think about the Wim hoffing cold and they'll about the Wim hoffing cold and they'll about the Wim hoffing cold and they'll think about breath work so it just needs think about breath work so it just needs think about breath work so it just needs to be said never to do the breath work to be said never to do the breath work to be said never to do the breath work in conjunction with the cold or even in in conjunction with the cold or even in in conjunction with the cold or even in the water in cold water anything even the water in cold water anything even the water in cold water anything even close if you're going to do the breath close if you're going to do the breath close if you're going to do the breath work with the Wim Hoff method you're work with the Wim Hoff method you're work with the Wim Hoff method you're laying down in a safe environment and laying down in a safe environment and laying down in a safe environment and you're doing the breath work so they're you're doing the breath work so they're you're doing the breath work so they're not at all connected just more of a not at all connected just more of a not at all connected just more of a disclaimer and secondly so we build up disclaimer and secondly so we build up disclaimer and secondly so we build up gradually as you mentioned is the best gradually as you mentioned is the best gradually as you mentioned is the best way so it's just like learning to walk way so it's just like learning to walk way so it's just like learning to walk before you run so a lot of us want to before you run so a lot of us want to before you run so a lot of us want to just jump right in because we see our just jump right in because we see our just jump right in because we see our friends doing it and again this egoic friends doing it and again this egoic friends doing it and again this egoic part wants to seem like we are equal to part wants to seem like we are equal to part wants to seem like we are equal to others and we can do it and we kind of others and we can do it and we kind of others and we can do it and we kind of over jump where we actually are in life over jump where we actually are in life over jump where we actually are in life so if you want to start I would suggest so if you want to start I would suggest so if you want to start I would suggest just starting with a a cold shower I
21:00just starting with a a cold shower I just starting with a a cold shower I mean that's the best way so you start mean that's the best way so you start mean that's the best way so you start with warm water in your in your shower with warm water in your in your shower with warm water in your in your shower then maybe towards the end of your then maybe towards the end of your then maybe towards the end of your shower you turn it cold for 10 15 shower you turn it cold for 10 15 shower you turn it cold for 10 15 seconds and go back to warm and just get seconds and go back to warm and just get seconds and go back to warm and just get a taste for what that cold water feels a taste for what that cold water feels a taste for what that cold water feels like and then after that becomes like and then after that becomes like and then after that becomes relatively comfortable than extending relatively comfortable than extending relatively comfortable than extending that cold time so doing warm more cold that cold time so doing warm more cold that cold time so doing warm more cold go back to warm eventually you do a warm go back to warm eventually you do a warm go back to warm eventually you do a warm shower go to cold and you'd stop going shower go to cold and you'd stop going shower go to cold and you'd stop going back to warm and what you're building up back to warm and what you're building up back to warm and what you're building up to is a full cold shower now mind you to is a full cold shower now mind you to is a full cold shower now mind you it's really difficult to wash your body it's really difficult to wash your body it's really difficult to wash your body with soap and cold water so just be with soap and cold water so just be with soap and cold water so just be mindful of that and then eventually if mindful of that and then eventually if mindful of that and then eventually if you have a tub at home you could fill you have a tub at home you could fill you have a tub at home you could fill your tub with cold water and do your your tub with cold water and do your your tub with cold water and do your dips at home and kind of the the top dips at home and kind of the the top dips at home and kind of the the top most difficult I mean next would be an most difficult I mean next would be an most difficult I mean next would be an actual ice bath where the water isn't actual ice bath where the water isn't actual ice bath where the water isn't moving and then the top most difficult moving and then the top most difficult moving and then the top most difficult is in nature in moving water which is is in nature in moving water which is is in nature in moving water which is also the most dangerous so finding a also the most dangerous so finding a also the most dangerous so finding a place where the water isn't moving too place where the water isn't moving too place where the water isn't moving too much where you can find Steady footing much where you can find Steady footing much where you can find Steady footing and it could be an ocean even and that
22:00and it could be an ocean even and that and it could be an ocean even and that would be the most and I you always want would be the most and I you always want would be the most and I you always want to have somebody there with you so to have somebody there with you so to have somebody there with you so always using the bud system because and always using the bud system because and always using the bud system because and somebody who can help not someone who's somebody who can help not someone who's somebody who can help not someone who's dipping with you but somebody who's on dipping with you but somebody who's on dipping with you but somebody who's on the shore who can help you who has warm the shore who can help you who has warm the shore who can help you who has warm clothes and they can really help you clothes and they can really help you clothes and they can really help you especially if you're in moving water and especially if you're in moving water and especially if you're in moving water and as far as knowing when you're ready to as far as knowing when you're ready to as far as knowing when you're ready to progress I think that's really progress I think that's really progress I think that's really subjective I think it's up to the person subjective I think it's up to the person subjective I think it's up to the person I mean there's no I wouldn't say there's I mean there's no I wouldn't say there's I mean there's no I wouldn't say there's a like a benchmark to meet where okay a like a benchmark to meet where okay a like a benchmark to meet where okay now I'm ready for the next step I think now I'm ready for the next step I think now I'm ready for the next step I think you will do it before you feel ready you will do it before you feel ready you will do it before you feel ready because if we wait till we feel ready we because if we wait till we feel ready we because if we wait till we feel ready we probably will never progress we're just probably will never progress we're just probably will never progress we're just going to stay as we we often like in our going to stay as we we often like in our going to stay as we we often like in our comfort zones so you do it before you comfort zones so you do it before you comfort zones so you do it before you truly feel ready but I think that in a truly feel ready but I think that in a truly feel ready but I think that in a general sense it's once you've become general sense it's once you've become general sense it's once you've become relatively comfortable with where you're relatively comfortable with where you're relatively comfortable with where you're at uh because even you know what we're at uh because even you know what we're at uh because even you know what we're doing with cold exposure is we are doing with cold exposure is we are doing with cold exposure is we are coming out of our comfort zones and coming out of our comfort zones and coming out of our comfort zones and we're kind of expanding our comfort Z we're kind of expanding our comfort Z we're kind of expanding our comfort Z zones it's not that every time you take
23:00zones it's not that every time you take zones it's not that every time you take a cold dip you're jumping out of your a cold dip you're jumping out of your a cold dip you're jumping out of your comfort zone what we're doing we're comfort zone what we're doing we're comfort zone what we're doing we're actually making their comfort zone actually making their comfort zone actually making their comfort zone bigger so for example in my own Journey bigger so for example in my own Journey bigger so for example in my own Journey when I first started cold dipping it was when I first started cold dipping it was when I first started cold dipping it was way out of my comfort zone to getting way out of my comfort zone to getting way out of my comfort zone to getting cold water and now it's I don't think cold water and now it's I don't think cold water and now it's I don't think twice about it so in terms of serving twice about it so in terms of serving twice about it so in terms of serving the purpose of expanding my comfort zone the purpose of expanding my comfort zone the purpose of expanding my comfort zone it's kind of already done that serve it's kind of already done that serve it's kind of already done that serve that purpose for me so I think you have that purpose for me so I think you have that purpose for me so I think you have your own feeling of when you feel your own feeling of when you feel your own feeling of when you feel generally comfortable and and then you generally comfortable and and then you generally comfortable and and then you move on I I could actually share my move on I I could actually share my move on I I could actually share my story because my witness is here so when story because my witness is here so when story because my witness is here so when I took this is really for your benefit I took this is really for your benefit I took this is really for your benefit India when I took I took the Wim Hof India when I took I took the Wim Hof India when I took I took the Wim Hof course I would I would really recommend course I would I would really recommend course I would I would really recommend people take the course to to learn cold people take the course to to learn cold people take the course to to learn cold for the first time because they like for the first time because they like for the first time because they like Jacob taught us a whole section on cold Jacob taught us a whole section on cold Jacob taught us a whole section on cold a whole bunch of safety and so I felt a whole bunch of safety and so I felt a whole bunch of safety and so I felt confident that way and then I if I confident that way and then I if I confident that way and then I if I remember Jacob it for two things you had remember Jacob it for two things you had remember Jacob it for two things you had recommended we got an email weeks before recommended we got an email weeks before recommended we got an email weeks before the course and you suggested for three the course and you suggested for three the course and you suggested for three weeks before the course that we did cold weeks before the course that we did cold weeks before the course that we did cold showers so I wasn't doing those so that showers so I wasn't doing those so that showers so I wasn't doing those so that was that was new for me was that was new for me was that was new for me and then when I got to the course it was
24:00and then when I got to the course it was and then when I got to the course it was at the end of the day and it was at the end of the day and it was at the end of the day and it was voluntary you made it well known nobody voluntary you made it well known nobody voluntary you made it well known nobody had to do this but I I've told you since had to do this but I I've told you since had to do this but I I've told you since that I actually had a hot water bottle that I actually had a hot water bottle that I actually had a hot water bottle hidden in my backpack and I was in this hidden in my backpack and I was in this hidden in my backpack and I was in this course it was 2019 and everybody in the course it was 2019 and everybody in the course it was 2019 and everybody in the course was male thank god Jess was there course was male thank god Jess was there course was male thank god Jess was there helping out and but they were all like helping out and but they were all like helping out and but they were all like they were firefighters and they were firefighters and they were firefighters and physiotherapists they're all six feet physiotherapists they're all six feet physiotherapists they're all six feet tall and and strong they were doing tall and and strong they were doing tall and and strong they were doing cartwheels in the brakes and handstands cartwheels in the brakes and handstands cartwheels in the brakes and handstands and so when I came to m a bunch of them and so when I came to m a bunch of them and so when I came to m a bunch of them went and and it was very I loved it how went and and it was very I loved it how went and and it was very I loved it how everybody cheered everybody on so ego everybody cheered everybody on so ego everybody cheered everybody on so ego did come in but I think ego did help me did come in but I think ego did help me did come in but I think ego did help me because I was like I really want to do because I was like I really want to do because I was like I really want to do two minutes but I'll never for I like I two minutes but I'll never for I like I two minutes but I'll never for I like I will never forget the experience because will never forget the experience because will never forget the experience because I got in and I think I got 10 seconds I got in and I think I got 10 seconds I got in and I think I got 10 seconds and you were there and I looked at you and you were there and I looked at you and you were there and I looked at you and I said I'm not gonna make two I and I said I'm not gonna make two I and I said I'm not gonna make two I think I wasn't gonna make 30 seconds is think I wasn't gonna make 30 seconds is think I wasn't gonna make 30 seconds is what I said but in my head it was I was what I said but in my head it was I was what I said but in my head it was I was gonna make two minutes and you just I gonna make two minutes and you just I
25:00gonna make two minutes and you just I don't know if you remember with me but don't know if you remember with me but don't know if you remember with me but obviously you do this but can you can obviously you do this but can you can obviously you do this but can you can you remember or like what is your you remember or like what is your you remember or like what is your strategy to get people to to go a little strategy to get people to to go a little strategy to get people to to go a little further I just hold them in the water no further I just hold them in the water no further I just hold them in the water no no I can tell you what I remember but I no I can tell you what I remember but I no I can tell you what I remember but I I don't fully remember our experence I I don't fully remember our experence I I don't fully remember our experence I mean it's been so many people yeah maybe mean it's been so many people yeah maybe mean it's been so many people yeah maybe sure I mean I do to help people stay in sure I mean I do to help people stay in sure I mean I do to help people stay in I mean there's a whole and since you I mean there's a whole and since you I mean there's a whole and since you started with me there's been an started with me there's been an started with me there's been an evolution obviously in How I I run evolution obviously in How I I run evolution obviously in How I I run workshops and the things I say and what workshops and the things I say and what workshops and the things I say and what I do right as my own learning has gone I do right as my own learning has gone I do right as my own learning has gone on so there's a a massive difference in on so there's a a massive difference in on so there's a a massive difference in the preface and the in the buildup and the preface and the in the buildup and the preface and the in the buildup and in the intention setting and and talking in the intention setting and and talking in the intention setting and and talking about this connection with nature and about this connection with nature and about this connection with nature and taking the pressure off so that helps a taking the pressure off so that helps a taking the pressure off so that helps a lot of people and the second part is lot of people and the second part is lot of people and the second part is what what really I think helps is what what really I think helps is what what really I think helps is guiding them through the breath Because guiding them through the breath Because guiding them through the breath Because by the time I help get them and I have a by the time I help get them and I have a by the time I help get them and I have a way to do that by the time I help them way to do that by the time I help them way to do that by the time I help them get their breath back it's already over get their breath back it's already over get their breath back it's already over a minute so then they're like oh wow I'm a minute so then they're like oh wow I'm a minute so then they're like oh wow I'm already over halfway I can do this and already over halfway I can do this and already over halfway I can do this and they feel like they can now they can now
26:00they feel like they can now they can now they feel like they can now they can now do it yeah that's exactly what you did do it yeah that's exactly what you did do it yeah that's exactly what you did for me I so so so thankful because Jacob for me I so so so thankful because Jacob for me I so so so thankful because Jacob you're one of the few people in my life you're one of the few people in my life you're one of the few people in my life that I can honestly say changed my that I can honestly say changed my that I can honestly say changed my life from the heart no really you know life from the heart no really you know life from the heart no really you know my life changed after it was December my life changed after it was December my life changed after it was December 2019 and I did this you know and I not I 2019 and I did this you know and I not I 2019 and I did this you know and I not I didn't take it to I was going to I guess didn't take it to I was going to I guess didn't take it to I was going to I guess it's a question I'll ask can this become it's a question I'll ask can this become it's a question I'll ask can this become an addiction but I don't think this did an addiction but I don't think this did an addiction but I don't think this did not become an addiction became a sour not become an addiction became a sour not become an addiction became a sour source of strength for me and to see to source of strength for me and to see to source of strength for me and to see to see my own limits and to see that I'm see my own limits and to see that I'm see my own limits and to see that I'm stronger you know and and how I think I stronger you know and and how I think I stronger you know and and how I think I can handle stress you know so much can handle stress you know so much can handle stress you know so much better for it so many questions for you better for it so many questions for you better for it so many questions for you okay so I'm G to jump a few out one is okay so I'm G to jump a few out one is okay so I'm G to jump a few out one is do you think it can do you think it can do you think it can do you think it can do you think it can do you think it can become an addiction I mean I I know PE become an addiction I mean I I know PE become an addiction I mean I I know PE there it's that's a really hard and there it's that's a really hard and there it's that's a really hard and interesting question so I know there are interesting question so I know there are interesting question so I know there are people who will dip every single day now people who will dip every single day now people who will dip every single day now I don't know know if depends how first I don't know know if depends how first I don't know know if depends how first of all how we classify addiction and I
27:00of all how we classify addiction and I of all how we classify addiction and I don't know how such something that don't know how such something that don't know how such something that stresses us out if if it's that that stresses us out if if it's that that stresses us out if if it's that that people find addicting or if it's just people find addicting or if it's just people find addicting or if it's just the after feeling obviously that people the after feeling obviously that people the after feeling obviously that people find addicting and just searching for find addicting and just searching for find addicting and just searching for that after feeling I I can't give you an that after feeling I I can't give you an that after feeling I I can't give you an answer I'm not sure if it can become an answer I'm not sure if it can become an answer I'm not sure if it can become an addiction do you know Andia well when addiction do you know Andia well when addiction do you know Andia well when when you ask that Laura I think about when you ask that Laura I think about when you ask that Laura I think about you know anyone with the disease of you know anyone with the disease of you know anyone with the disease of addiction if you tell us something is addiction if you tell us something is addiction if you tell us something is good for us well then 20 of them must be good for us well then 20 of them must be good for us well then 20 of them must be really good right so if you you tell me really good right so if you you tell me really good right so if you you tell me this this you know one thing is is going this this you know one thing is is going this this you know one thing is is going to do X Y and Z well then if I do it 20 to do X Y and Z well then if I do it 20 to do X Y and Z well then if I do it 20 times it must be it's going to be the times it must be it's going to be the times it must be it's going to be the best and that's kind of like how we best and that's kind of like how we best and that's kind of like how we think but I feel like with cold therapy think but I feel like with cold therapy think but I feel like with cold therapy like yes it's beneficial but I with like yes it's beneficial but I with like yes it's beneficial but I with addiction like it's going to be is it is addiction like it's going to be is it is addiction like it's going to be is it is it is it messing with your daily life it is it messing with your daily life it is it messing with your daily life routine are you calling into work
28:00routine are you calling into work routine are you calling into work because you're you need to do another because you're you need to do another because you're you need to do another dip like that's that's unlikely going to dip like that's that's unlikely going to dip like that's that's unlikely going to happen I think and and also I think it's happen I think and and also I think it's happen I think and and also I think it's I think with the health benefits and I think with the health benefits and I think with the health benefits and with people knowing what it can do for with people knowing what it can do for with people knowing what it can do for them like I mean for me personally like them like I mean for me personally like them like I mean for me personally like I know I'm getting that when I when I do I know I'm getting that when I when I do I know I'm getting that when I when I do it and you know not to say I haven't I it and you know not to say I haven't I it and you know not to say I haven't I I've I have definitely done dunks before I've I have definitely done dunks before I've I have definitely done dunks before but not since I've actually learned the but not since I've actually learned the but not since I've actually learned the benefits of cold therapy I've I've been benefits of cold therapy I've I've been benefits of cold therapy I've I've been doing it like progressively the proper doing it like progressively the proper doing it like progressively the proper way and yeah it does give you a boost of way and yeah it does give you a boost of way and yeah it does give you a boost of confidence and if someone is starting to confidence and if someone is starting to confidence and if someone is starting to look for their happiness if you will look for their happiness if you will look for their happiness if you will from from that like I think that they're from from that like I think that they're from from that like I think that they're only going to be a I mean they're very only going to be a I mean they're very only going to be a I mean they're very likely injure themselves and and and likely injure themselves and and and likely injure themselves and and and probably learn a lesson I think this is probably learn a lesson I think this is probably learn a lesson I think this is kind of a more I just think it would be kind of a more I just think it would be kind of a more I just think it would be maybe uncommon but that's just my maybe uncommon but that's just my maybe uncommon but that's just my opinion when I think about it but yeah opinion when I think about it but yeah opinion when I think about it but yeah it is kind of a tough question to answer it is kind of a tough question to answer it is kind of a tough question to answer I I've called it my happy pill though
29:00I I've called it my happy pill though I I've called it my happy pill though like because I we often go on Saturdays like because I we often go on Saturdays like because I we often go on Saturdays and I'm like I don't need chocolate I and I'm like I don't need chocolate I and I'm like I don't need chocolate I don't need any I just no coffee caffeine don't need any I just no coffee caffeine don't need any I just no coffee caffeine it's just yeah go for your cold dip and it's just yeah go for your cold dip and it's just yeah go for your cold dip and it you know you feel it through the rest it you know you feel it through the rest it you know you feel it through the rest of the day and how your day progresses of the day and how your day progresses of the day and how your day progresses yeah one thing you have alluded to is yeah one thing you have alluded to is yeah one thing you have alluded to is this connection with nature Jacob I this connection with nature Jacob I this connection with nature Jacob I don't know if you have other than your don't know if you have other than your don't know if you have other than your if you have a bathtub at home but a lot if you have a bathtub at home but a lot if you have a bathtub at home but a lot of people are going out and buying these of people are going out and buying these of people are going out and buying these I forget plunges cold plung or forg I forget plunges cold plung or forg I forget plunges cold plung or forg forges or it's not the right word I forges or it's not the right word I forges or it's not the right word I think but do you I don't think you have think but do you I don't think you have think but do you I don't think you have yet is that is it because you still yet is that is it because you still yet is that is it because you still prefer to find the river you know and prefer to find the river you know and prefer to find the river you know and although it's there's a there's a season although it's there's a there's a season although it's there's a there's a season where we're stuck which is right now where we're stuck which is right now where we're stuck which is right now unless the only thing you can do which I unless the only thing you can do which I unless the only thing you can do which I I've I've done is if you're a swimmer if I've I've done is if you're a swimmer if I've I've done is if you're a swimmer if you swim long enough I find you can get you swim long enough I find you can get you swim long enough I find you can get to the shiver stage you know if you to the shiver stage you know if you to the shiver stage you know if you don't get into a sauna quickly after don't get into a sauna quickly after don't get into a sauna quickly after like but obviously the temperatures are like but obviously the temperatures are like but obviously the temperatures are rising and it's you know you miss a rising and it's you know you miss a rising and it's you know you miss a couple months of of of cold therapy couple months of of of cold therapy couple months of of of cold therapy opportunities but just that's what I
30:00opportunities but just that's what I opportunities but just that's what I wondered just wondering about your wondered just wondering about your wondered just wondering about your practice your personal practice it's practice your personal practice it's practice your personal practice it's definitely changed over time I do love I definitely changed over time I do love I definitely changed over time I do love I do love dipping in the river and I mean do love dipping in the river and I mean do love dipping in the river and I mean I have a tub here I just haven't bought I have a tub here I just haven't bought I have a tub here I just haven't bought a chiller a chiller would be something a chiller a chiller would be something a chiller a chiller would be something that keeps the water cold not having to that keeps the water cold not having to that keeps the water cold not having to add ice all the time but even for me in add ice all the time but even for me in add ice all the time but even for me in the winter so I used to be somebody who the winter so I used to be somebody who the winter so I used to be somebody who yeah I want every day to do my cold yeah I want every day to do my cold yeah I want every day to do my cold plunge but I don't want to piss off the plunge but I don't want to piss off the plunge but I don't want to piss off the wrong people here but I don't know if wrong people here but I don't know if wrong people here but I don't know if that's necessarily good for you and that's necessarily good for you and that's necessarily good for you and especially in my life I'm not sure if especially in my life I'm not sure if especially in my life I'm not sure if like what I kind of I got to a point like what I kind of I got to a point like what I kind of I got to a point even with breath work and with a lot of even with breath work and with a lot of even with breath work and with a lot of these these other than meditation a lot these these other than meditation a lot these these other than meditation a lot of these modalities where needing first of these modalities where needing first of these modalities where needing first of all needing to do it every day or of all needing to do it every day or of all needing to do it every day or else my day won't be good I don't that's else my day won't be good I don't that's else my day won't be good I don't that's not really an addiction it's more so I not really an addiction it's more so I not really an addiction it's more so I want to be able to have a good day and want to be able to have a good day and want to be able to have a good day and not feel guilty about not doing these not feel guilty about not doing these not feel guilty about not doing these things so I don't want to have them have things so I don't want to have them have things so I don't want to have them have to be my anchor in terms of having a to be my anchor in terms of having a to be my anchor in terms of having a good day and also I don't know if good day and also I don't know if good day and also I don't know if there's enough research in stressing our there's enough research in stressing our there's enough research in stressing our bodies out every single day in these bodies out every single day in these bodies out every single day in these ways so I just kind of go based on my
31:00ways so I just kind of go based on my ways so I just kind of go based on my feeling I naturally I used to do the feeling I naturally I used to do the feeling I naturally I used to do the breath work every day in terms of the breath work every day in terms of the breath work every day in terms of the Wim Hof breathing and I naturally as I Wim Hof breathing and I naturally as I Wim Hof breathing and I naturally as I have begun to try to live my life more have begun to try to live my life more have begun to try to live my life more intuitively I have just kind of slipped intuitively I have just kind of slipped intuitively I have just kind of slipped away from doing it every day and now I away from doing it every day and now I away from doing it every day and now I do it maybe every third day something do it maybe every third day something do it maybe every third day something like that and with the cold in the like that and with the cold in the like that and with the cold in the winters I used to try to dip every day winters I used to try to dip every day winters I used to try to dip every day and I kind of just feel into what I'm and I kind of just feel into what I'm and I kind of just feel into what I'm wanting that day and I maybe do it three wanting that day and I maybe do it three wanting that day and I maybe do it three times a week two times a week and some times a week two times a week and some times a week two times a week and some weeks I I don't ever do it and so my weeks I I don't ever do it and so my weeks I I don't ever do it and so my practice has really changed I I this is practice has really changed I I this is practice has really changed I I this is and this has kind of led me to as as you and this has kind of led me to as as you and this has kind of led me to as as you mentioned before we started the life mentioned before we started the life mentioned before we started the life Rich Collective and all this thing is I Rich Collective and all this thing is I Rich Collective and all this thing is I I realized that there is a a sort of I realized that there is a a sort of I realized that there is a a sort of pillar in terms of human fulfillment pillar in terms of human fulfillment pillar in terms of human fulfillment mindfulness and not pillar but a pyramid mindfulness and not pillar but a pyramid mindfulness and not pillar but a pyramid in terms of human fulfillment in terms of human fulfillment in terms of human fulfillment mindfulness and I think health and my mindfulness and I think health and my mindfulness and I think health and my focus was predominantly at the top of focus was predominantly at the top of focus was predominantly at the top of the pillar these things that help but the pillar these things that help but the pillar these things that help but maybe only help in terms of my full life maybe only help in terms of my full life maybe only help in terms of my full life Spectrum fulfillment purpose Health
32:00Spectrum fulfillment purpose Health Spectrum fulfillment purpose Health everything maybe 1 to 10% and I was everything maybe 1 to 10% and I was everything maybe 1 to 10% and I was largely not focusing on the foundation largely not focusing on the foundation largely not focusing on the foundation the bottom Parts which I think that's the bottom Parts which I think that's the bottom Parts which I think that's where we get into another conversation where we get into another conversation where we get into another conversation of are we doing these things that have of are we doing these things that have of are we doing these things that have the Allure that are more fancy like Cal the Allure that are more fancy like Cal the Allure that are more fancy like Cal plunging are we doing those things and plunging are we doing those things and plunging are we doing those things and ignoring the really basic things that ignoring the really basic things that ignoring the really basic things that lead to true happiness fulfillment and a lead to true happiness fulfillment and a lead to true happiness fulfillment and a healthy life and that's what I found in healthy life and that's what I found in healthy life and that's what I found in my own life if I was doing and so now my my own life if I was doing and so now my my own life if I was doing and so now my main focus is on the foundation and the main focus is on the foundation and the main focus is on the foundation and the bottom of the pyramid and that's why my bottom of the pyramid and that's why my bottom of the pyramid and that's why my practice in these other modalities has practice in these other modalities has practice in these other modalities has gone down because they're at the top and gone down because they're at the top and gone down because they're at the top and they are what comes after I take care of they are what comes after I take care of they are what comes after I take care of all the rest of the things so again I all the rest of the things so again I all the rest of the things so again I don't it sounds to me this has led this don't it sounds to me this has led this don't it sounds to me this has led this journey has led to being more journey has led to being more journey has led to being more intuitive listening to your body being intuitive listening to your body being intuitive listening to your body being able to trust and probably a million able to trust and probably a million able to trust and probably a million other things but it's beautiful other things but it's beautiful other things but it's beautiful listening to the body is is a funny one listening to the body is is a funny one listening to the body is is a funny one because a lot of people say that and because a lot of people say that and because a lot of people say that and even me and it can become an excuse so
33:00even me and it can become an excuse so even me and it can become an excuse so there's a really nuanced piece here there's a really nuanced piece here there's a really nuanced piece here where it's listening to the body in the where it's listening to the body in the where it's listening to the body in the sense of because for me actually I'm I'm sense of because for me actually I'm I'm sense of because for me actually I'm I'm it's good because I would have to like I it's good because I would have to like I it's good because I would have to like I would be if I didn't listen to the body would be if I didn't listen to the body would be if I didn't listen to the body I'd be doing everything but so for me it I'd be doing everything but so for me it I'd be doing everything but so for me it doesn't go the other way where I'm doesn't go the other way where I'm doesn't go the other way where I'm listening to my body and I'm like using listening to my body and I'm like using listening to my body and I'm like using it as an excuse not to do all these it as an excuse not to do all these it as an excuse not to do all these things but it can very quickly become things but it can very quickly become things but it can very quickly become that so it it is this intuitive sense of that so it it is this intuitive sense of that so it it is this intuitive sense of what do I actually need today and I what do I actually need today and I what do I actually need today and I think that our in our day and age we think that our in our day and age we think that our in our day and age we have become so busy and we feel like we have become so busy and we feel like we have become so busy and we feel like we aren't achieving something unless we're aren't achieving something unless we're aren't achieving something unless we're doing something that a lot of times less doing something that a lot of times less doing something that a lot of times less is more and that we can actually be okay is more and that we can actually be okay is more and that we can actually be okay not to do things and then try not to not to do things and then try not to not to do things and then try not to feel guilty about it and we can have a feel guilty about it and we can have a feel guilty about it and we can have a lot of benefit from doing less yeah yeah lot of benefit from doing less yeah yeah lot of benefit from doing less yeah yeah that's I know you you have a you have a that's I know you you have a you have a that's I know you you have a you have a free ebook called less is more that I free ebook called less is more that I free ebook called less is more that I that I downloaded and I it's free right that I downloaded and I it's free right that I downloaded and I it's free right Jacob yeah it's free yeah it's just Jacob yeah it's free yeah it's just Jacob yeah it's free yeah it's just about I think it's it what it really is
34:00about I think it's it what it really is about I think it's it what it really is about is increasing the potency of your about is increasing the potency of your about is increasing the potency of your rituals that you're doing so not needing rituals that you're doing so not needing rituals that you're doing so not needing to do 10 different things but if you're to do 10 different things but if you're to do 10 different things but if you're going to do something really enhancing going to do something really enhancing going to do something really enhancing the potency and how what its effect is the potency and how what its effect is the potency and how what its effect is going to be and it comes back to your going to be and it comes back to your going to be and it comes back to your intention and why you're doing it and intention and why you're doing it and intention and why you're doing it and all those other things which a lot of all those other things which a lot of all those other things which a lot of times we just do things to check them times we just do things to check them times we just do things to check them off our our to-do list okay intention I off our our to-do list okay intention I off our our to-do list okay intention I been wanting to ask you I'm like don't been wanting to ask you I'm like don't been wanting to ask you I'm like don't forget don't forget so something that forget don't forget so something that forget don't forget so something that you brought this year in our in the you brought this year in our in the you brought this year in our in the season of Dipping was this idea of of season of Dipping was this idea of of season of Dipping was this idea of of setting int an intention right before a setting int an intention right before a setting int an intention right before a cold dip can you explain a little bit cold dip can you explain a little bit cold dip can you explain a little bit about that and why why you do that yeah about that and why why you do that yeah about that and why why you do that yeah again it coming back for me like I just again it coming back for me like I just again it coming back for me like I just was kind of doing this practice without was kind of doing this practice without was kind of doing this practice without thinking of why I'm doing it and then at thinking of why I'm doing it and then at thinking of why I'm doing it and then at that point it's just like becomes this that point it's just like becomes this that point it's just like becomes this mind another thing that we do in our day mind another thing that we do in our day mind another thing that we do in our day mindlessly on on mindlessly on on mindlessly on on autopilot and I think if we it's part of autopilot and I think if we it's part of autopilot and I think if we it's part of the less is more if we can connect to the less is more if we can connect to the less is more if we can connect to what we're doing and remind ourselves what we're doing and remind ourselves what we're doing and remind ourselves why we're doing this it has a greater why we're doing this it has a greater why we're doing this it has a greater power for us because our minds are so
35:00power for us because our minds are so power for us because our minds are so powerful so if we are just basically powerful so if we are just basically powerful so if we are just basically living up in living up in living up in our uh daydreaming and not really our uh daydreaming and not really our uh daydreaming and not really connecting with what we're doing the connecting with what we're doing the connecting with what we're doing the power of what we're doing is not going power of what we're doing is not going power of what we're doing is not going to be as great but if I can say okay I'm to be as great but if I can say okay I'm to be as great but if I can say okay I'm dipping I I'd like to dip because I'd dipping I I'd like to dip because I'd dipping I I'd like to dip because I'd like to really connect with myself I like to really connect with myself I like to really connect with myself I want to dip because I'm looking for want to dip because I'm looking for want to dip because I'm looking for these health benefits or I want to have these health benefits or I want to have these health benefits or I want to have Mother Nature teach me about my stress Mother Nature teach me about my stress Mother Nature teach me about my stress or whatever the case may be and then or whatever the case may be and then or whatever the case may be and then really connect with that before you do really connect with that before you do really connect with that before you do the dip the dip the dip that is something that you are now that is something that you are now that is something that you are now intentionally going out and seeking and intentionally going out and seeking and intentionally going out and seeking and can get out of it rather than for me it can get out of it rather than for me it can get out of it rather than for me it was okay I'm going in I'm spending my was okay I'm going in I'm spending my was okay I'm going in I'm spending my time on getting out and then I don't time on getting out and then I don't time on getting out and then I don't even think twice about it or why I did even think twice about it or why I did even think twice about it or why I did it or how I felt or anything like that it or how I felt or anything like that it or how I felt or anything like that so I think it just does also like I said so I think it just does also like I said so I think it just does also like I said increase the potency of what we're doing increase the potency of what we're doing increase the potency of what we're doing oh my gosh so Andia is probably having oh my gosh so Andia is probably having oh my gosh so Andia is probably having the same thought at the same time here the same thought at the same time here the same thought at the same time here about water and so you know when we've about water and so you know when we've about water and so you know when we've water is a key module in studying Quant water is a key module in studying Quant water is a key module in studying Quant biology and you know we've learned about
36:00biology and you know we've learned about biology and you know we've learned about how you can imprint you know thoughts in how you can imprint you know thoughts in how you can imprint you know thoughts in in your water and even to the point of in your water and even to the point of in your water and even to the point of you know then drinking it and then you know then drinking it and then you know then drinking it and then putting that you know your body becomes putting that you know your body becomes putting that you know your body becomes those thoughts and and it's because those thoughts and and it's because those thoughts and and it's because partly because of all of that that I've partly because of all of that that I've partly because of all of that that I've learned Dr emoto's work and now Vet learned Dr emoto's work and now Vet learned Dr emoto's work and now Vet Austin she's another one to look up Austin she's another one to look up Austin she's another one to look up she's amazing she does these experiments she's amazing she does these experiments she's amazing she does these experiments with ice crystals just with you bringing with ice crystals just with you bringing with ice crystals just with you bringing that to my attention this year as we that to my attention this year as we that to my attention this year as we were dipping now I think about it as you were dipping now I think about it as you were dipping now I think about it as you what what intention do I want to give what what intention do I want to give what what intention do I want to give the water like I I usually now added the water like I I usually now added the water like I I usually now added more like a blessing to the water and more like a blessing to the water and more like a blessing to the water and and how can I make this water healthier and how can I make this water healthier and how can I make this water healthier and then when I you know obviously and then when I you know obviously and then when I you know obviously there's like you said bring another there's like you said bring another there's like you said bring another intention for the purpose of that intention for the purpose of that intention for the purpose of that specific dip so and I had to yeah exp specific dip so and I had to yeah exp specific dip so and I had to yeah exp that yeah go ahead it's okay well and that yeah go ahead it's okay well and that yeah go ahead it's okay well and you guys are out in nature doing it so you guys are out in nature doing it so you guys are out in nature doing it so mother nature is literally scooping you mother nature is literally scooping you mother nature is literally scooping you up protecting you with its natural Fair up protecting you with its natural Fair up protecting you with its natural Fair Day cage and your col all those Day cage and your col all those Day cage and your col all those electrons it's just uh really really
37:00electrons it's just uh really really electrons it's just uh really really beautiful like I want to get to a place beautiful like I want to get to a place beautiful like I want to get to a place where that is what I'm doing because where that is what I'm doing because where that is what I'm doing because when we are out in nature there are just when we are out in nature there are just when we are out in nature there are just a million other benefits and you know a million other benefits and you know a million other benefits and you know you're bringing another layer to it you're bringing another layer to it you're bringing another layer to it Laura by talking about the water and Laura by talking about the water and Laura by talking about the water and then your attention not only to the then your attention not only to the then your attention not only to the water in our body but the water that is water in our body but the water that is water in our body but the water that is going to teach you this lesson that you going to teach you this lesson that you going to teach you this lesson that you are about to step into it's really are about to step into it's really are about to step into it's really beautiful just yeah the three pillars so beautiful just yeah the three pillars so beautiful just yeah the three pillars so Wim Hoff has three pillars and I would Wim Hoff has three pillars and I would Wim Hoff has three pillars and I would say Quantum biology has three pillars say Quantum biology has three pillars say Quantum biology has three pillars and it's light water and magnetism and and it's light water and magnetism and and it's light water and magnetism and and that's the thing about nature and that's the thing about nature and that's the thing about nature dipping and and maybe one of the reasons dipping and and maybe one of the reasons dipping and and maybe one of the reasons I don't yet have a tub is that I will I don't yet have a tub is that I will I don't yet have a tub is that I will always prioritize the lake or the river always prioritize the lake or the river always prioritize the lake or the river because gets you out in sunlight but if because gets you out in sunlight but if because gets you out in sunlight but if if people do have a tub get it on your if people do have a tub get it on your if people do have a tub get it on your back deck at least force yourself to get back deck at least force yourself to get back deck at least force yourself to get outside and get in the light but but you outside and get in the light but but you outside and get in the light but but you miss the magnetism piece if you're not miss the magnetism piece if you're not miss the magnetism piece if you're not yeah you're well I mean some pools and yeah you're well I mean some pools and yeah you're well I mean some pools and stuff are are grounded but yeah so stuff are are grounded but yeah so stuff are are grounded but yeah so anyway so interesting can extend that anyway so interesting can extend that anyway so interesting can extend that intention to well you can extend it to
38:00intention to well you can extend it to intention to well you can extend it to everything that you do I mean if you're everything that you do I mean if you're everything that you do I mean if you're going to set an intention on everything going to set an intention on everything going to set an intention on everything you do you're going to really exhaust you do you're going to really exhaust you do you're going to really exhaust yourself but I think like even the food yourself but I think like even the food yourself but I think like even the food we eat like I don't want to necessarily we eat like I don't want to necessarily we eat like I don't want to necessarily get into diet and all those things get into diet and all those things get into diet and all those things because it's kind of become of for because it's kind of become of for because it's kind of become of for people okay sure just but like just people okay sure just but like just people okay sure just but like just quickly just like saying thank you to I quickly just like saying thank you to I quickly just like saying thank you to I mean because I eat meat so connecting mean because I eat meat so connecting mean because I eat meat so connecting with what I'm eating and just really with what I'm eating and just really with what I'm eating and just really thanking that that animal that's given thanking that that animal that's given thanking that that animal that's given us life for me and again that's us life for me and again that's us life for me and again that's increasing the PO and also just increasing the PO and also just increasing the PO and also just respecting and realizing that something respecting and realizing that something respecting and realizing that something did have to give its life and you can did have to give its life and you can did have to give its life and you can take that and you can really like take that and you can really like take that and you can really like meditating like s attention for while meditating like s attention for while meditating like s attention for while you're meditating rather than for me it you're meditating rather than for me it you're meditating rather than for me it used to be I'm just going to sit and used to be I'm just going to sit and used to be I'm just going to sit and meditate so I can just get it done but meditate so I can just get it done but meditate so I can just get it done but now it's like okay no I'm connecting now it's like okay no I'm connecting now it's like okay no I'm connecting when I meditate now and this has been when I meditate now and this has been when I meditate now and this has been the key change in actually keeping up the key change in actually keeping up the key change in actually keeping up with it for me in my life I I'm actually with it for me in my life I I'm actually with it for me in my life I I'm actually connecting with something larger than connecting with something larger than connecting with something larger than myself every time I meditate and so some myself every time I meditate and so some myself every time I meditate and so some people call that Source some people call people call that Source some people call people call that Source some people call that Universe some people call it God that Universe some people call it God that Universe some people call it God whatever it is but that is what I am
39:00whatever it is but that is what I am whatever it is but that is what I am doing every time I meditate and it doing every time I meditate and it doing every time I meditate and it profoundly has increased the effect of profoundly has increased the effect of profoundly has increased the effect of my meditation yeah I I'm looking at you my meditation yeah I I'm looking at you my meditation yeah I I'm looking at you Andia because I got I feel like you're Andia because I got I feel like you're Andia because I got I feel like you're gonna ask him something on that no I gonna ask him something on that no I gonna ask him something on that no I think you were about to ask him a think you were about to ask him a think you were about to ask him a question okay I've got oh I've got ahead question okay I've got oh I've got ahead question okay I've got oh I've got ahead such a long list just first a comment such a long list just first a comment such a long list just first a comment because the question was on food I know because the question was on food I know because the question was on food I know you've changed your diet as have I and you've changed your diet as have I and you've changed your diet as have I and actually lent me an important book in my actually lent me an important book in my actually lent me an important book in my journey there on it and I just want to journey there on it and I just want to journey there on it and I just want to say for the listeners Jacob actually say for the listeners Jacob actually say for the listeners Jacob actually goes to the farm weekly and meets help goes to the farm weekly and meets help goes to the farm weekly and meets help and Volunteers in the Barns and that's and Volunteers in the Barns and that's and Volunteers in the Barns and that's how beautiful this connection is and how beautiful this connection is and how beautiful this connection is and yeah I think it's so important we've yeah I think it's so important we've yeah I think it's so important we've lost that just buying our our meat you lost that just buying our our meat you lost that just buying our our meat you know our food at the grocery store but know our food at the grocery store but know our food at the grocery store but has changing your diet made cold has changing your diet made cold has changing your diet made cold therapy easier have you noticed anything therapy easier have you noticed anything therapy easier have you noticed anything on that honestly I I haven't noticed in on that honestly I I haven't noticed in on that honestly I I haven't noticed in terms of cold no okay I I I have I'll terms of cold no okay I I I have I'll terms of cold no okay I I I have I'll just say I went mine was so dramatic I just say I went mine was so dramatic I just say I went mine was so dramatic I went from alkaline eating like a lot of
40:00went from alkaline eating like a lot of went from alkaline eating like a lot of cucumbers and and this is where we get cucumbers and and this is where we get cucumbers and and this is where we get into the quantum nutrition where the into the quantum nutrition where the into the quantum nutrition where the light coat in that food is grown in light coat in that food is grown in light coat in that food is grown in really high UVB light and I'm ingesting really high UVB light and I'm ingesting really high UVB light and I'm ingesting it in winter time in Canada and then I it in winter time in Canada and then I it in winter time in Canada and then I would so I think I was on the tail end would so I think I was on the tail end would so I think I was on the tail end of that when I when I trained so I I of that when I when I trained so I I of that when I when I trained so I I that's why I had that water bottle I my that's why I had that water bottle I my that's why I had that water bottle I my body was really challenged to warm up I body was really challenged to warm up I body was really challenged to warm up I was freezing I was in extra clothes was freezing I was in extra clothes was freezing I was in extra clothes Beyond everybody around me and what's so Beyond everybody around me and what's so Beyond everybody around me and what's so interesting for me is since I have I'm interesting for me is since I have I'm interesting for me is since I have I'm eating um a Quantum diet where I'm eating um a Quantum diet where I'm eating um a Quantum diet where I'm eating with the seasons now in Winter eating with the seasons now in Winter eating with the seasons now in Winter I'm out cross country skiing you know I'm out cross country skiing you know I'm out cross country skiing you know with a backpack safety you know with with a backpack safety you know with with a backpack safety you know with extra clothes nearby but I can I can go extra clothes nearby but I can I can go extra clothes nearby but I can I can go out in a in a tank top and cross country out in a in a tank top and cross country out in a in a tank top and cross country ski and and I'm trying to adapt I'm ski and and I'm trying to adapt I'm ski and and I'm trying to adapt I'm trying to cold adapt and so that's yeah trying to cold adapt and so that's yeah trying to cold adapt and so that's yeah something that when we talk about cold something that when we talk about cold something that when we talk about cold therapy I just want to bring out that therapy I just want to bring out that therapy I just want to bring out that it's not only just in in in water and it's not only just in in in water and it's not only just in in in water and with that I want to ask you cuz we see with that I want to ask you cuz we see with that I want to ask you cuz we see videos people anybody that knows of the
41:00videos people anybody that knows of the videos people anybody that knows of the Iceman you've been to Poland how many Iceman you've been to Poland how many Iceman you've been to Poland how many times Jacob so I went as a participant times Jacob so I went as a participant times Jacob so I went as a participant and then I've been there as an and then I've been there as an and then I've been there as an instructor in Poland twice now and in instructor in Poland twice now and in instructor in Poland twice now and in Spain once he and so can you tell us Spain once he and so can you tell us Spain once he and so can you tell us about do you do some I know you guys do about do you do some I know you guys do about do you do some I know you guys do some cold dipping but do you do some some cold dipping but do you do some some cold dipping but do you do some cold exposure with whim yeah a lot of cold exposure with whim yeah a lot of cold exposure with whim yeah a lot of it's so when you're a participant you do it's so when you're a participant you do it's so when you're a participant you do like you are actively doing all things like you are actively doing all things like you are actively doing all things as an instructor you're there to hold as an instructor you're there to hold as an instructor you're there to hold space and to be ready to help and guide space and to be ready to help and guide space and to be ready to help and guide so you don't do it when you're an so you don't do it when you're an so you don't do it when you're an instructor but as a participant yeah instructor but as a participant yeah instructor but as a participant yeah you're doing it all with with whim you're doing it all with with whim you're doing it all with with whim you're doing a a hike with minimal you're doing a a hike with minimal you're doing a a hike with minimal clothing you know into the mountains in clothing you know into the mountains in clothing you know into the mountains in the middle of winter and all these the middle of winter and all these the middle of winter and all these different things ice baths really long different things ice baths really long different things ice baths really long ice baths so you know we can talk about ice baths so you know we can talk about ice baths so you know we can talk about that but yeah you do quite a bit of of that but yeah you do quite a bit of of that but yeah you do quite a bit of of cold exposure with whim and without whim cold exposure with whim and without whim cold exposure with whim and without whim okay yeah okay so let's go to the okay yeah okay so let's go to the okay yeah okay so let's go to the benefits I just want to make sure today benefits I just want to make sure today benefits I just want to make sure today we get some of the signs sence I know we get some of the signs sence I know we get some of the signs sence I know you teach that in you know in the course
42:00you teach that in you know in the course you teach that in you know in the course so cold thermogenesis maybe you could so cold thermogenesis maybe you could so cold thermogenesis maybe you could explain a little bit more on the term or explain a little bit more on the term or explain a little bit more on the term or I don't know if you just call it cold I don't know if you just call it cold I don't know if you just call it cold therapy but this idea of it's getting therapy but this idea of it's getting therapy but this idea of it's getting the body to make the Heat and why why the body to make the Heat and why why the body to make the Heat and why why would we benefit from that and why would would we benefit from that and why would would we benefit from that and why would we benefit from we benefit from we benefit from shivering okay so cold cold therapy are shivering okay so cold cold therapy are shivering okay so cold cold therapy are you talking about like the metabolic you talking about like the metabolic you talking about like the metabolic thermogenesis like brown activation yes thermogenesis like brown activation yes thermogenesis like brown activation yes yeah can you give us a little a little yeah can you give us a little a little yeah can you give us a little a little bit on that yeah so cold therapy I mean bit on that yeah so cold therapy I mean bit on that yeah so cold therapy I mean there's many ways to do it I think there's many ways to do it I think there's many ways to do it I think predominantly most of the the science is predominantly most of the the science is predominantly most of the the science is and the research is done on dipping with and the research is done on dipping with and the research is done on dipping with the water over your shoulders I don't the water over your shoulders I don't the water over your shoulders I don't think there's much research done on think there's much research done on think there's much research done on showers and and any other kind maybe showers and and any other kind maybe showers and and any other kind maybe cryotherapy but I do believe they they cryotherapy but I do believe they they cryotherapy but I do believe they they they say there's more benefits with with they say there's more benefits with with they say there's more benefits with with dipping versus cryotherapy I could be dipping versus cryotherapy I could be dipping versus cryotherapy I could be wrong on that it's out of my element but wrong on that it's out of my element but wrong on that it's out of my element but I'm not too familiar with cryo but yeah I'm not too familiar with cryo but yeah I'm not too familiar with cryo but yeah so basically metabolic thermogenesis or so basically metabolic thermogenesis or so basically metabolic thermogenesis or as an easier way of naming it is brown
43:00as an easier way of naming it is brown as an easier way of naming it is brown fat activation I will say there's still fat activation I will say there's still fat activation I will say there's still needs to be a lot more research done on needs to be a lot more research done on needs to be a lot more research done on it it's very preliminary in terms of how it it's very preliminary in terms of how it it's very preliminary in terms of how far research goes and how deep you can far research goes and how deep you can far research goes and how deep you can get but it's the idea that we are using get but it's the idea that we are using get but it's the idea that we are using our nutrients from within and this is our nutrients from within and this is our nutrients from within and this is again working with the mitochondria to again working with the mitochondria to again working with the mitochondria to to heat ourselves up from within so it to heat ourselves up from within so it to heat ourselves up from within so it used to be thought that only children used to be thought that only children used to be thought that only children and infants had what's called called and infants had what's called called and infants had what's called called Brown fat which I'll give you a quick Brown fat which I'll give you a quick Brown fat which I'll give you a quick background it's called Brown fat because background it's called Brown fat because background it's called Brown fat because it's made up of mitochondria and it's made up of mitochondria and it's made up of mitochondria and mitochondria is brown so they call it mitochondria is brown so they call it mitochondria is brown so they call it brown fat it used to be thought that brown fat it used to be thought that brown fat it used to be thought that only children and infants had this only children and infants had this only children and infants had this because they don't really have the because they don't really have the because they don't really have the ability to shiver like adults do to warm ability to shiver like adults do to warm ability to shiver like adults do to warm up so they needed naturally another up so they needed naturally another up so they needed naturally another mechanism to warm up which would be mechanism to warm up which would be mechanism to warm up which would be brown fat activation or metabolic brown fat activation or metabolic brown fat activation or metabolic thermogenesis but then it's been shown thermogenesis but then it's been shown thermogenesis but then it's been shown that adults can actually also have brown that adults can actually also have brown that adults can actually also have brown fat and use this metabolic thermogenesis fat and use this metabolic thermogenesis fat and use this metabolic thermogenesis to warm up now it's not one or the other to warm up now it's not one or the other to warm up now it's not one or the other we still shiver to warm up and usually
44:00we still shiver to warm up and usually we still shiver to warm up and usually actually shivering is a precursor to actually shivering is a precursor to actually shivering is a precursor to Brown fat Activation so you're probably Brown fat Activation so you're probably Brown fat Activation so you're probably going to shiver first and then you're going to shiver first and then you're going to shiver first and then you're going to transition into Brown fat going to transition into Brown fat going to transition into Brown fat activation and really I'd say most of activation and really I'd say most of activation and really I'd say most of the benefits that I'm aware of is just the benefits that I'm aware of is just the benefits that I'm aware of is just in terms of your metabolism and I guess in terms of your metabolism and I guess in terms of your metabolism and I guess that's probably the extent of it is is that's probably the extent of it is is that's probably the extent of it is is working with your mitochondria and working with your mitochondria and working with your mitochondria and enhancing your metabolism there probably enhancing your metabolism there probably enhancing your metabolism there probably are other benefits but I mean it's are other benefits but I mean it's are other benefits but I mean it's warming you up just like shivering is so warming you up just like shivering is so warming you up just like shivering is so I don't know maybe you might actually I don't know maybe you might actually I don't know maybe you might actually know more than me about it as terms of know more than me about it as terms of know more than me about it as terms of what the other benefits would be for it what the other benefits would be for it what the other benefits would be for it well I yeah I over the years I've been I well I yeah I over the years I've been I well I yeah I over the years I've been I think I keep telling you oh I just added think I keep telling you oh I just added think I keep telling you oh I just added another I found out another scientific another I found out another scientific another I found out another scientific reason to do cold therapy so I think I'm reason to do cold therapy so I think I'm reason to do cold therapy so I think I'm up to 47 and I am I know I am going to up to 47 and I am I know I am going to up to 47 and I am I know I am going to write a blog post I don't know why I write a blog post I don't know why I write a blog post I don't know why I keep putting it off and I have a keep putting it off and I have a keep putting it off and I have a workshop you know that's in the works workshop you know that's in the works workshop you know that's in the works I've had it in the works for years but I I've had it in the works for years but I I've had it in the works for years but I did I have taught it in my leptin did I have taught it in my leptin did I have taught it in my leptin protocol it helps leptin sensitivity but protocol it helps leptin sensitivity but protocol it helps leptin sensitivity but it one thing I did I learned even just
45:00it one thing I did I learned even just it one thing I did I learned even just today doing a little bit of research today doing a little bit of research today doing a little bit of research after the age of 40 which I don't think after the age of 40 which I don't think after the age of 40 which I don't think it affects you guys because you're it affects you guys because you're it affects you guys because you're younger than me younger than me younger than me but almost yeah so 34 so it'll be there but almost yeah so 34 so it'll be there but almost yeah so 34 so it'll be there as soon4 yeah oh just a baby to me but as soon4 yeah oh just a baby to me but as soon4 yeah oh just a baby to me but anyway after the age of 40 we we we tend anyway after the age of 40 we we we tend anyway after the age of 40 we we we tend to have less of this bat this brown act to have less of this bat this brown act to have less of this bat this brown act bat what is it brown brown fat Brown fat bat what is it brown brown fat Brown fat bat what is it brown brown fat Brown fat stat yeah white there's white fat wat stat yeah white there's white fat wat stat yeah white there's white fat wat and and and that and with that we tend to be more that and with that we tend to be more that and with that we tend to be more obese if we the less brown fat that you obese if we the less brown fat that you obese if we the less brown fat that you have like and but it is more insulin have like and but it is more insulin have like and but it is more insulin sensitive and we want to be insulin sensitive and we want to be insulin sensitive and we want to be insulin sensitive we don't want to be insulin sensitive we don't want to be insulin sensitive we don't want to be insulin resistant and so I think as we age this resistant and so I think as we age this resistant and so I think as we age this this you know for anti-aging I think this you know for anti-aging I think this you know for anti-aging I think doing cold therapy is a good thing and doing cold therapy is a good thing and doing cold therapy is a good thing and it's what I have noticed looking at the it's what I have noticed looking at the it's what I have noticed looking at the seniors in my life they're freezing seniors in my life they're freezing seniors in my life they're freezing they're often wearing an extra layer and they're often wearing an extra layer and they're often wearing an extra layer and that the heat has to be high and they
46:00that the heat has to be high and they that the heat has to be high and they don't want to go outdoors and I'm hoping don't want to go outdoors and I'm hoping don't want to go outdoors and I'm hoping with this knowledge that we can as we with this knowledge that we can as we with this knowledge that we can as we age we can you know not go there and and age we can you know not go there and and age we can you know not go there and and you know and really stay heal healthy so you know and really stay heal healthy so you know and really stay heal healthy so another question I have is you mentioned another question I have is you mentioned another question I have is you mentioned the shoulders going into the shoulders the shoulders going into the shoulders the shoulders going into the shoulders so just background again I my so just background again I my so just background again I my understanding is the brown fat is more understanding is the brown fat is more understanding is the brown fat is more concentrated in the clavicles back of concentrated in the clavicles back of concentrated in the clavicles back of the neck in the back do you know if the neck in the back do you know if the neck in the back do you know if there's a benefit to put putting your there's a benefit to put putting your there's a benefit to put putting your head in when when we we go in or can we head in when when we we go in or can we head in when when we we go in or can we still get the same effect just you don't still get the same effect just you don't still get the same effect just you don't you don't have to put your head in that you don't have to put your head in that you don't have to put your head in that adds another layer of of warming up and adds another layer of of warming up and adds another layer of of warming up and another layer of intensity and of another layer of intensity and of another layer of intensity and of challenge but I don't even think there's challenge but I don't even think there's challenge but I don't even think there's much research on putting your head in much research on putting your head in much research on putting your head in one way or the other like if it's if one way or the other like if it's if one way or the other like if it's if it's any better or not you definitely it's any better or not you definitely it's any better or not you definitely get a lot of benefits even just getting get a lot of benefits even just getting get a lot of benefits even just getting your brain stem in and over your your brain stem in and over your your brain stem in and over your shoulders would be it yeah okay I have shoulders would be it yeah okay I have shoulders would be it yeah okay I have heard for I don't know if it's a W's heard for I don't know if it's a W's heard for I don't know if it's a W's taale about the shower about putting taale about the shower about putting taale about the shower about putting your head in and ending on cold and if
47:00your head in and ending on cold and if your head in and ending on cold and if you end it on you know get that cold on you end it on you know get that cold on you end it on you know get that cold on your head it may help your hair stay so your head it may help your hair stay so your head it may help your hair stay so I do it don't know if it's true yeah I do it don't know if it's true yeah I do it don't know if it's true yeah well I mean I I would say that the the well I mean I I would say that the the well I mean I I would say that the the reason would be would be mainly because reason would be would be mainly because reason would be would be mainly because when you put cold on the parts of your when you put cold on the parts of your when you put cold on the parts of your body your head may not have the same to body your head may not have the same to body your head may not have the same to the same extent but it constricts the the same extent but it constricts the the same extent but it constricts the blood flow and then so then when you blood flow and then so then when you blood flow and then so then when you warm up it really shoots a lot of blood warm up it really shoots a lot of blood warm up it really shoots a lot of blood flow into your into that part of your flow into your into that part of your flow into your into that part of your body so one of the issues with hair loss body so one of the issues with hair loss body so one of the issues with hair loss is that the blood flow is actually is that the blood flow is actually is that the blood flow is actually limited to the follicles of your hair so limited to the follicles of your hair so limited to the follicles of your hair so if you are limiting it and then you open if you are limiting it and then you open if you are limiting it and then you open it back up and you can enhance the blood it back up and you can enhance the blood it back up and you can enhance the blood flow it could possibly help but I think flow it could possibly help but I think flow it could possibly help but I think that's a that's a stretch I think I know that's a that's a stretch I think I know that's a that's a stretch I think I know that it closes the hair shaft I never that it closes the hair shaft I never that it closes the hair shaft I never heard I never heard about the the hair heard I never heard about the the hair heard I never heard about the the hair growth but yeah I always I've rinsed my growth but yeah I always I've rinsed my growth but yeah I always I've rinsed my hair in cold water getting out like I've hair in cold water getting out like I've hair in cold water getting out like I've always ended my showers with a cold always ended my showers with a cold always ended my showers with a cold because I tend to have frizzier hair so because I tend to have frizzier hair so because I tend to have frizzier hair so rinsing the the water but that is like rinsing the the water but that is like rinsing the the water but that is like not the cold therapy people we're not the cold therapy people we're not the cold therapy people we're talking about hey that's a beauty tip we
48:00talking about hey that's a beauty tip we talking about hey that's a beauty tip we can use that we'll take that little can use that we'll take that little can use that we'll take that little beauty tip but I love it yeah know how beauty tip but I love it yeah know how beauty tip but I love it yeah know how long have you been dipping Jacob you long have you been dipping Jacob you long have you been dipping Jacob you ever counted no I think I started in ever counted no I think I started in ever counted no I think I started in 2018 2019 so not that long only about 2018 2019 so not that long only about 2018 2019 so not that long only about five five six years yeah okay yeah I five five six years yeah okay yeah I five five six years yeah okay yeah I feel like it it feels like longer but I feel like it it feels like longer but I feel like it it feels like longer but I think that's it okay here's so with that think that's it okay here's so with that think that's it okay here's so with that I guess I want to ask you have you had I guess I want to ask you have you had I guess I want to ask you have you had any you know where what where what are any you know where what where what are any you know where what where what are the benefits you've experienced the benefits you've experienced the benefits you've experienced personally and then one I if you can personally and then one I if you can personally and then one I if you can just mention as one of them because I've just mention as one of them because I've just mention as one of them because I've seen it I've seen you get injured I seen it I've seen you get injured I seen it I've seen you get injured I don't know if you get injured in your don't know if you get injured in your don't know if you get injured in your work or in sports but it's I've seen you work or in sports but it's I've seen you work or in sports but it's I've seen you turn around injuries in record time so turn around injuries in record time so turn around injuries in record time so anyway could you share your the benefits anyway could you share your the benefits anyway could you share your the benefits yeah it is we're talking but more than yeah it is we're talking but more than yeah it is we're talking but more than that like joint and yeah I so benefits that like joint and yeah I so benefits that like joint and yeah I so benefits for me predominantly the two things I I for me predominantly the two things I I for me predominantly the two things I I think I I I mentioned are managing think I I I mentioned are managing think I I I mentioned are managing stress and just my connection with
49:00stress and just my connection with stress and just my connection with nature outside of that I would it would nature outside of that I would it would nature outside of that I would it would be a stretch for me to say anything else be a stretch for me to say anything else be a stretch for me to say anything else because I didn't measure I didn't take because I didn't measure I didn't take because I didn't measure I didn't take any Benchmark measurements of my blood any Benchmark measurements of my blood any Benchmark measurements of my blood pressure or my heart or anything like pressure or my heart or anything like pressure or my heart or anything like that before so I don't know I do feel that before so I don't know I do feel that before so I don't know I do feel like I'm 34 now I do feel better this like I'm 34 now I do feel better this like I'm 34 now I do feel better this probably has a lot to do with also probably has a lot to do with also probably has a lot to do with also changing my nutrition I do feel like I changing my nutrition I do feel like I changing my nutrition I do feel like I did when I was 20 especially like did when I was 20 especially like did when I was 20 especially like playing sports again now I I don't get playing sports again now I I don't get playing sports again now I I don't get injured I feel like I you know it's so injured I feel like I you know it's so injured I feel like I you know it's so that that's a possibility but that that's a possibility but that that's a possibility but predominantly those two main main areas predominantly those two main main areas predominantly those two main main areas that I've noticed in terms of injury that I've noticed in terms of injury that I've noticed in terms of injury yeah so I tore my achilles tendon um yeah so I tore my achilles tendon um yeah so I tore my achilles tendon um that's probably the biggest thing that I that's probably the biggest thing that I that's probably the biggest thing that I I cured or healed from and so it was a I cured or healed from and so it was a I cured or healed from and so it was a full rupture and I I was better in three full rupture and I I was better in three full rupture and I I was better in three months and I could go back to work as a months and I could go back to work as a months and I could go back to work as a firefighter in four months I could have firefighter in four months I could have firefighter in four months I could have gone earlier but I was like oh this is a gone earlier but I was like oh this is a gone earlier but I was like oh this is a bit soon and let's just like pump the bit soon and let's just like pump the bit soon and let's just like pump the brakes here is that with surgery with brakes here is that with surgery with brakes here is that with surgery with surgery y yes and the the kind of time
50:00surgery y yes and the the kind of time surgery y yes and the the kind of time frame they were working with was a year frame they were working with was a year frame they were working with was a year I guess that's usually again how long it I guess that's usually again how long it I guess that's usually again how long it takes people on average is a year before takes people on average is a year before takes people on average is a year before you get back to doing anything even you get back to doing anything even you get back to doing anything even remotely close to what you were doing so remotely close to what you were doing so remotely close to what you were doing so I mean I had surgery going back it was I mean I had surgery going back it was I mean I had surgery going back it was 2019 I had surgery at the beginning of 2019 I had surgery at the beginning of 2019 I had surgery at the beginning of July at the mid August that same year I July at the mid August that same year I July at the mid August that same year I was climbing massive mountains in was climbing massive mountains in was climbing massive mountains in Washington state and then I was back at Washington state and then I was back at Washington state and then I was back at work not soon after that and I mean I work not soon after that and I mean I work not soon after that and I mean I did all the traditional Therapies so I did all the traditional Therapies so I did all the traditional Therapies so I definitely did you know the physio the definitely did you know the physio the definitely did you know the physio the Osteo the massage all the things I ate a Osteo the massage all the things I ate a Osteo the massage all the things I ate a really high protein diet as I I do now really high protein diet as I I do now really high protein diet as I I do now also I just see so many benefits also I just see so many benefits also I just see so many benefits personally with that personally with that personally with that and I I think I mean I obviously I and I I think I mean I obviously I and I I think I mean I obviously I instilled the Wim Hoff method I have to instilled the Wim Hoff method I have to instilled the Wim Hoff method I have to give it credit that was the main thing I give it credit that was the main thing I give it credit that was the main thing I did different than what anybody else was did different than what anybody else was did different than what anybody else was doing I was doing frequent cold exposure doing I was doing frequent cold exposure doing I was doing frequent cold exposure so getting that Co chock protein so getting that Co chock protein so getting that Co chock protein regenerating my cells and the breath regenerating my cells and the breath regenerating my cells and the breath work which you know in terms of chronic work which you know in terms of chronic work which you know in terms of chronic pain and and illness and whatever it's
51:00pain and and illness and whatever it's pain and and illness and whatever it's basically at the root of all As We Know basically at the root of all As We Know basically at the root of all As We Know pain illness injuries you have that pain illness injuries you have that pain illness injuries you have that chronic chronic issue that's there the chronic chronic issue that's there the chronic chronic issue that's there the acute inflammation is great we don't acute inflammation is great we don't acute inflammation is great we don't want it to prolong and be be chronic and want it to prolong and be be chronic and want it to prolong and be be chronic and so they actually compared they did a so they actually compared they did a so they actually compared they did a study on the Wim Hoff method they study on the Wim Hoff method they study on the Wim Hoff method they compared the cold exposure with breath compared the cold exposure with breath compared the cold exposure with breath work and they wanted to see where is the work and they wanted to see where is the work and they wanted to see where is the an where are the anti-inflammatory an where are the anti-inflammatory an where are the anti-inflammatory benefits coming from is it the cold benefits coming from is it the cold benefits coming from is it the cold exposure the breath work or both and exposure the breath work or both and exposure the breath work or both and they actually found the negligible they actually found the negligible they actually found the negligible anti-inflammatory benefits with the cold anti-inflammatory benefits with the cold anti-inflammatory benefits with the cold it was like none nothing to even mention it was like none nothing to even mention it was like none nothing to even mention the breath work blew it out of the water the breath work blew it out of the water the breath work blew it out of the water and when you did them both it was even and when you did them both it was even and when you did them both it was even better so the cold actually helped to better so the cold actually helped to better so the cold actually helped to enhance the anti-inflammatory benefits enhance the anti-inflammatory benefits enhance the anti-inflammatory benefits and so I was doing quite a bit of cold and so I was doing quite a bit of cold and so I was doing quite a bit of cold but I was also doing the breath work I but I was also doing the breath work I but I was also doing the breath work I was doing in the morning at in the night was doing in the morning at in the night was doing in the morning at in the night every day and then just personally what every day and then just personally what every day and then just personally what my own feeling is the biggest difference my own feeling is the biggest difference my own feeling is the biggest difference was every time I was doing the breath was every time I was doing the breath was every time I was doing the breath work I was visualizing and this gets work I was visualizing and this gets work I was visualizing and this gets more into like the Joe dispens the side more into like the Joe dispens the side more into like the Joe dispens the side of things I was visualizing my heles
52:00of things I was visualizing my heles of things I was visualizing my heles tendon and just visualizing the the tendon and just visualizing the the tendon and just visualizing the the inflammatory markers reducing and the inflammatory markers reducing and the inflammatory markers reducing and the pro-inflammatory blood just going in pro-inflammatory blood just going in pro-inflammatory blood just going in there and flushing it all out and I just there and flushing it all out and I just there and flushing it all out and I just visualize that every day I did the visualize that every day I did the visualize that every day I did the breath work but I think that was breath work but I think that was breath work but I think that was probably the biggest the biggest thing I probably the biggest the biggest thing I probably the biggest the biggest thing I did yeah oh thanks for sharing that did yeah oh thanks for sharing that did yeah oh thanks for sharing that that's that's remarkable I just want to that's that's remarkable I just want to that's that's remarkable I just want to Mark the time that we are a few few few Mark the time that we are a few few few Mark the time that we are a few few few more minutes yeah I got Laur Laura go more minutes yeah I got Laur Laura go more minutes yeah I got Laur Laura go ahead just to just to want to finish the ahead just to just to want to finish the ahead just to just to want to finish the safety piece because I don't you know we safety piece because I don't you know we safety piece because I don't you know we don't want people to run leave here and don't want people to run leave here and don't want people to run leave here and you know and just go and do 20 minutes you know and just go and do 20 minutes you know and just go and do 20 minutes of cold in a week and freeze themselves of cold in a week and freeze themselves of cold in a week and freeze themselves or whatever so can you talk about after or whatever so can you talk about after or whatever so can you talk about after drop or the drop I think whim call can drop or the drop I think whim call can drop or the drop I think whim call can you explain what after drop is and how you explain what after drop is and how you explain what after drop is and how we can prevent that yeah after drop is we can prevent that yeah after drop is we can prevent that yeah after drop is where your body basically has a really where your body basically has a really where your body basically has a really difficult time warming backup and it can difficult time warming backup and it can difficult time warming backup and it can take two to three hours so we actually take two to three hours so we actually take two to three hours so we actually see this a lot with people or you can see this a lot with people or you can see this a lot with people or you can imagine I was in this I was this person imagine I was in this I was this person
53:00imagine I was in this I was this person before so I would do a cold dip and I before so I would do a cold dip and I before so I would do a cold dip and I would go directly into a sauna right would go directly into a sauna right would go directly into a sauna right after and when you do that the warm after and when you do that the warm after and when you do that the warm blood and the cold blood mix very blood and the cold blood mix very blood and the cold blood mix very quickly and then the cold blood goes all quickly and then the cold blood goes all quickly and then the cold blood goes all throughout your whole body and now it's throughout your whole body and now it's throughout your whole body and now it's spreading everywhere and happens fast so spreading everywhere and happens fast so spreading everywhere and happens fast so not only can that actually be dangerous not only can that actually be dangerous not only can that actually be dangerous for your heart having that shock right for your heart having that shock right for your heart having that shock right away um but it can cause you to feel away um but it can cause you to feel away um but it can cause you to feel really cold for a while so for me I was really cold for a while so for me I was really cold for a while so for me I was sitting in this sauna but I was freezing sitting in this sauna but I was freezing sitting in this sauna but I was freezing in the sauna which is weird right in the sauna which is weird right in the sauna which is weird right and so this after drop basically when and so this after drop basically when and so this after drop basically when you get into cold water your body you get into cold water your body you get into cold water your body temperature drops and then when you're temperature drops and then when you're temperature drops and then when you're getting out it's dropping even further getting out it's dropping even further getting out it's dropping even further uh so it doesn't just stop and then if uh so it doesn't just stop and then if uh so it doesn't just stop and then if you say go into a sauna go into a warm you say go into a sauna go into a warm you say go into a sauna go into a warm car get bundled up it's going to mix car get bundled up it's going to mix car get bundled up it's going to mix quickly and then this is yeah where quickly and then this is yeah where quickly and then this is yeah where you're going to feel cold for for quite you're going to feel cold for for quite you're going to feel cold for for quite a while and I wouldn't say necessarily a while and I wouldn't say necessarily a while and I wouldn't say necessarily it's it can be dangerous I guess it it's it can be dangerous I guess it it's it can be dangerous I guess it could also can be dangerous when you could also can be dangerous when you could also can be dangerous when you warm up too fast like I said for your warm up too fast like I said for your warm up too fast like I said for your heart but it is just something that we heart but it is just something that we heart but it is just something that we don't need to do we can avoid and we can don't need to do we can avoid and we can don't need to do we can avoid and we can warm up naturally on our own and let warm up naturally on our own and let warm up naturally on our own and let that warm and cold blood mix slowly and
54:00that warm and cold blood mix slowly and that warm and cold blood mix slowly and mindfully and gradually warm up now I mindfully and gradually warm up now I mindfully and gradually warm up now I won't say that there aren't benefits to won't say that there aren't benefits to won't say that there aren't benefits to thermocycling because I know there are thermocycling because I know there are thermocycling because I know there are and I don't know enough about it like I and I don't know enough about it like I and I don't know enough about it like I haven't looked into it to say what they haven't looked into it to say what they haven't looked into it to say what they are or what the risks are but that would are or what the risks are but that would are or what the risks are but that would be something totally people to research be something totally people to research be something totally people to research on their own that is a whole separate on their own that is a whole separate on their own that is a whole separate thing Dr Susanna soberg she's in Denmark thing Dr Susanna soberg she's in Denmark thing Dr Susanna soberg she's in Denmark she's a cold Dipper but she's a she's a cold Dipper but she's a she's a cold Dipper but she's a researcher she's doing that kind of researcher she's doing that kind of researcher she's doing that kind of research um I know yeah and they they research um I know yeah and they they research um I know yeah and they they they actually it's called the soberg they actually it's called the soberg they actually it's called the soberg principle is the idea is that you're you principle is the idea is that you're you principle is the idea is that you're you have to always end on cold yes yeah and have to always end on cold yes yeah and have to always end on cold yes yeah and that's probably for that reason um yeah that's probably for that reason um yeah that's probably for that reason um yeah I didn't know that till you just I didn't know that till you just I didn't know that till you just explained that that makes sense yeah explained that that makes sense yeah explained that that makes sense yeah yeah and again they also do say like yeah and again they also do say like yeah and again they also do say like there is a this when you do there is a this when you do there is a this when you do thermocycling there's actually three thermocycling there's actually three thermocycling there's actually three parts of the cycle there's cold there's parts of the cycle there's cold there's parts of the cycle there's cold there's a break and then there's warm cold break a break and then there's warm cold break a break and then there's warm cold break and warm so there's always that break in and warm so there's always that break in and warm so there's always that break in between supposed be anyway to let your between supposed be anyway to let your between supposed be anyway to let your body re uh regulate and hopefully not
55:00body re uh regulate and hopefully not body re uh regulate and hopefully not warm up too quickly I think that's for warm up too quickly I think that's for warm up too quickly I think that's for that reason to not Shock the heart and that reason to not Shock the heart and that reason to not Shock the heart and have you warm up too quickly interesting have you warm up too quickly interesting have you warm up too quickly interesting because these you know there's Nordic because these you know there's Nordic because these you know there's Nordic spas that that have that cycling you spas that that have that cycling you spas that that have that cycling you know it's it's warm yeah interesting I know it's it's warm yeah interesting I know it's it's warm yeah interesting I the difference when you go to the Nordic the difference when you go to the Nordic the difference when you go to the Nordic Spa the good thing is so we find that I Spa the good thing is so we find that I Spa the good thing is so we find that I mean everybody handles the cold mean everybody handles the cold mean everybody handles the cold differently and you could get into a differently and you could get into a differently and you could get into a whole conversation about how cold does whole conversation about how cold does whole conversation about how cold does the water have to be how long the thing the water have to be how long the thing the water have to be how long the thing about the Nordic spot the cold water about the Nordic spot the cold water about the Nordic spot the cold water usually isn't any colder than 10 or 15° usually isn't any colder than 10 or 15° usually isn't any colder than 10 or 15° so we're not getting into those 0 to 3° so we're not getting into those 0 to 3° so we're not getting into those 0 to 3° water Waters so this is more so like if water Waters so this is more so like if water Waters so this is more so like if you're dipping in a river and then you you're dipping in a river and then you you're dipping in a river and then you go directly into a sauna or something go directly into a sauna or something go directly into a sauna or something like that you're probably going to like that you're probably going to like that you're probably going to experience it more than at a Nordic Spa experience it more than at a Nordic Spa experience it more than at a Nordic Spa okay oh okay fabulous yeah oh so much okay oh okay fabulous yeah oh so much okay oh okay fabulous yeah oh so much more we could ask you and you know maybe more we could ask you and you know maybe more we could ask you and you know maybe we'll get you back we we'd love to dive we'll get you back we we'd love to dive we'll get you back we we'd love to dive so much more we have the signature so much more we have the signature so much more we have the signature question that we'd love to ask you we question that we'd love to ask you we question that we'd love to ask you we may have to reword it for you because we may have to reword it for you because we may have to reword it for you because we realize you haven't taken this Quantum
56:00realize you haven't taken this Quantum realize you haven't taken this Quantum biology course Supply but you are living biology course Supply but you are living biology course Supply but you are living it Jacob doing the you know in wa in it Jacob doing the you know in wa in it Jacob doing the you know in wa in water the the breathing all these things water the the breathing all these things water the the breathing all these things have benefits in the cold but what does have benefits in the cold but what does have benefits in the cold but what does it mean for you to be Quantum healthy or it mean for you to be Quantum healthy or it mean for you to be Quantum healthy or I could say life rich or Beyond I could say life rich or Beyond I could say life rich or Beyond extraordinary yeah so I I mean that's a extraordinary yeah so I I mean that's a extraordinary yeah so I I mean that's a that's a hard question because my my that's a hard question because my my that's a hard question because my my perception on so many things to do with perception on so many things to do with perception on so many things to do with health and life have changed a lot even health and life have changed a lot even health and life have changed a lot even probably more so in the last six months probably more so in the last six months probably more so in the last six months in the rest of my life um that I think in the rest of my life um that I think in the rest of my life um that I think it's really about getting it's really about getting it's really about getting our to stop hyper for me to stop our to stop hyper for me to stop our to stop hyper for me to stop hyperfocusing on the one% of things that hyperfocusing on the one% of things that hyperfocusing on the one% of things that are going to have minimal change and are going to have minimal change and are going to have minimal change and then having those things run my life and then having those things run my life and then having those things run my life and rather living as a a full how do you rather living as a a full how do you rather living as a a full how do you explain like a full being where this is explain like a full being where this is explain like a full being where this is like being in nature more connecting like being in nature more connecting like being in nature more connecting with other more laughing more having with other more laughing more having with other more laughing more having more fun yeah I think those are the main
57:00more fun yeah I think those are the main more fun yeah I think those are the main the main pillars and focusing on what the main pillars and focusing on what the main pillars and focusing on what I'm eating and not to the point where I'm eating and not to the point where I'm eating and not to the point where it's I'm again anchored in that and I it's I'm again anchored in that and I it's I'm again anchored in that and I have to eat a certain way it doesn't have to eat a certain way it doesn't have to eat a certain way it doesn't become a like a religion for me or become a like a religion for me or become a like a religion for me or something like that but connecting with something like that but connecting with something like that but connecting with all these things that I think inherently all these things that I think inherently all these things that I think inherently are the Baseline for a fulfilled life are the Baseline for a fulfilled life are the Baseline for a fulfilled life guess that's probably the the most the guess that's probably the the most the guess that's probably the the most the easiest way I can explain it right now easiest way I can explain it right now easiest way I can explain it right now that's that's that's beautiful I love that there's so much beautiful I love that there's so much beautiful I love that there's so much freedom in that yeah and I love that it's your new yeah and I love that it's your new answer that you know like you've gone answer that you know like you've gone answer that you know like you've gone through this journey and yeah that was through this journey and yeah that was through this journey and yeah that was that was a lot of wisdom in that ask me that was a lot of wisdom in that ask me that was a lot of wisdom in that ask me again next week and I might change again again next week and I might change again again next week and I might change again Jacob what what do you offer like for Jacob what what do you offer like for Jacob what what do you offer like for people I've taken a few things from from people I've taken a few things from from people I've taken a few things from from your website but I want to make sure we your website but I want to make sure we your website but I want to make sure we hear it from you and what do you offer hear it from you and what do you offer hear it from you and what do you offer people so again this is also changed but people so again this is also changed but people so again this is also changed but so there's a few different things the so there's a few different things the so there's a few different things the main the main three things right now are main the main three things right now are main the main three things right now are it's I do one-on-one coaching I do do it's I do one-on-one coaching I do do it's I do one-on-one coaching I do do Retreats and an online community which Retreats and an online community which Retreats and an online community which is the life Rich Collective which is
58:00is the life Rich Collective which is is the life Rich Collective which is totally free right now to join and then totally free right now to join and then totally free right now to join and then there's just tons of offerings and free there's just tons of offerings and free there's just tons of offerings and free things in there for basically everything things in there for basically everything things in there for basically everything that we're talking about I'm I'm a that we're talking about I'm I'm a that we're talking about I'm I'm a member really a member yeah you you just member really a member yeah you you just member really a member yeah you you just to join yeah I mean I love it yeah yeah to join yeah I mean I love it yeah yeah to join yeah I mean I love it yeah yeah you just offered a free oxygen Advantage you just offered a free oxygen Advantage you just offered a free oxygen Advantage Master Class yeah yeah that happened not Master Class yeah yeah that happened not Master Class yeah yeah that happened not too long ago yeah yeah awesome well too long ago yeah yeah awesome well too long ago yeah yeah awesome well where can people find you oh yes okay where can people find you oh yes okay where can people find you oh yes okay they can find me well two places social they can find me well two places social they can find me well two places social media so it's Jacob Mark is my social media so it's Jacob Mark is my social media so it's Jacob Mark is my social media and then Jacob mark.com and I also media and then Jacob mark.com and I also media and then Jacob mark.com and I also have a YouTube channel believe the it's have a YouTube channel believe the it's have a YouTube channel believe the it's also it's Jacob Mark and I offer free also it's Jacob Mark and I offer free also it's Jacob Mark and I offer free breath work Yoga Nidra and meditation breath work Yoga Nidra and meditation breath work Yoga Nidra and meditation guided stuff there awesome amazing guided stuff there awesome amazing guided stuff there awesome amazing everybody you're gonna have to go check everybody you're gonna have to go check everybody you're gonna have to go check out everything Jacob has it sounds like out everything Jacob has it sounds like out everything Jacob has it sounds like you offer a a lot of value in in what you offer a a lot of value in in what you offer a a lot of value in in what you're putting out there you're putting out there you're putting out there much for being on the podcast today yeah
59:00much for being on the podcast today yeah much for being on the podcast today yeah this was fun thank you this was a lotun this was fun thank you this was a lotun this was fun thank you this was a lotun oh thank you and any any parting words oh thank you and any any parting words oh thank you and any any parting words any anything we we missed or I don't any anything we we missed or I don't any anything we we missed or I don't think oh geez if we have another hour I think oh geez if we have another hour I think oh geez if we have another hour I don't think we want to get into another don't think we want to get into another don't think we want to get into another conversation there's a lot a lot more conversation there's a lot a lot more conversation there's a lot a lot more yeah we'll have to have you back sure yeah we'll have to have you back sure yeah we'll have to have you back sure all right everyone we'll see you next all right everyone we'll see you next all right everyone we'll see you next time time time yeah thank you so much for listening to yeah thank you so much for listening to yeah thank you so much for listening to the quantum healthy podcast the quantum healthy podcast the quantum healthy podcast we hope you found some value in this we hope you found some value in this we hope you found some value in this information and if you feel inspired information and if you feel inspired information and if you feel inspired please share it and leave us a five-star please share it and leave us a five-star please share it and leave us a five-star review this will help us reach so many review this will help us reach so many review this will help us reach so many more people if you want to connect with more people if you want to connect with more people if you want to connect with Laura you can find her at Laura kissman Laura you can find her at Laura kissman Laura you can find her at Laura kissman wellness.com and Andia at wellness.com and Andia at wellness.com and Andia at nd.com links are below in the show notes nd.com links are below in the show notes nd.com links are below in the show notes now go find some sunlight and embrace now go find some sunlight and embrace now go find some sunlight and embrace your own Quantum healthy