Harnessing the Power of Hot and Cold Therapy for Enhanced Recovery and Longevity - Full Transcript

00:00well folks welcome to Leading your best well folks welcome to Leading your best life today's going to be a really life today's going to be a really life today's going to be a really interesting podcast because I'm with interesting podcast because I'm with interesting podcast because I'm with Pete Carbone from Rec lab and we've been Pete Carbone from Rec lab and we've been Pete Carbone from Rec lab and we've been going to ice baths and hot pools and all going to ice baths and hot pools and all going to ice baths and hot pools and all sorts of things but Pete uh first of all sorts of things but Pete uh first of all sorts of things but Pete uh first of all maybe I'll in the first instance show maybe I'll in the first instance show maybe I'll in the first instance show your website just so that people get a your website just so that people get a your website just so that people get a bit of an idea of you what you're doing bit of an idea of you what you're doing bit of an idea of you what you're doing at this fantastic Place her's premium at this fantastic Place her's premium at this fantastic Place her's premium Recovery Center has arrived um we'll go Recovery Center has arrived um we'll go Recovery Center has arrived um we'll go into that very shortly but Peter cabone into that very shortly but Peter cabone into that very shortly but Peter cabone welcome to Leading your best life thanks welcome to Leading your best life thanks welcome to Leading your best life thanks mate much appreciate it thanks mate what mate much appreciate it thanks mate what mate much appreciate it thanks mate what we're going to do we're you and I have we're going to do we're you and I have we're going to do we're you and I have similar backgrounds we're both in the similar backgrounds we're both in the similar backgrounds we're both in the business of trying to help human beings business of trying to help human beings business of trying to help human beings be the best they possibly can be um not be the best they possibly can be um not be the best they possibly can be um not only in sport but life in general but only in sport but life in general but only in sport but life in general but before we start swimming around pardon before we start swimming around pardon before we start swimming around pardon the pun uh in in your in in what you do the pun uh in in your in in what you do the pun uh in in your in in what you do to to help people live their best lives to to help people live their best lives to to help people live their best lives can I can I hear a bit about the Peter can I can I hear a bit about the Peter can I can I hear a bit about the Peter Carboni story where have you come from Carboni story where have you come from Carboni story where have you come from where where have you grown up where you where where have you grown up where you

01:00where where have you grown up where you educated what's got you to be where you educated what's got you to be where you educated what's got you to be where you are are are [Music] [Music] [Music] now yeah look I grew up out in the Vines now yeah look I grew up out in the Vines now yeah look I grew up out in the Vines um I went to school out at LEL um very I um I went to school out at LEL um very I um I went to school out at LEL um very I guess middle class upbringing I dropped guess middle class upbringing I dropped guess middle class upbringing I dropped out of school in year 10 my science out of school in year 10 my science out of school in year 10 my science teacher actually told my mom at a parent teacher actually told my mom at a parent teacher actually told my mom at a parent teacher meeting that um I was probably teacher meeting that um I was probably teacher meeting that um I was probably better off dropping out to get a trade better off dropping out to get a trade better off dropping out to get a trade because I was not really engaged at because I was not really engaged at because I was not really engaged at school um or at least not in the school um or at least not in the school um or at least not in the subjects that I didn't like um subjects that I didn't like um subjects that I didn't like um and then yeah went and did a trade I was and then yeah went and did a trade I was and then yeah went and did a trade I was very fortunate to have that opportunity very fortunate to have that opportunity very fortunate to have that opportunity uh from there started up my own little uh from there started up my own little uh from there started up my own little roofing roofing roofing business and that grew into many business and that grew into many business and that grew into many different things ended up going to work different things ended up going to work different things ended up going to work for my dad up North for a little while for my dad up North for a little while for my dad up North for a little while and then I had probably uh four or five and then I had probably uh four or five and then I had probably uh four or five entrepreneurial Endeavors um between entrepreneurial Endeavors um between entrepreneurial Endeavors um between then and recab um all of which uh taught then and recab um all of which uh taught then and recab um all of which uh taught me a great deal all of which me a great deal all of which me a great deal all of which came uh with a lot of Heartache I guess

02:00came uh with a lot of Heartache I guess came uh with a lot of Heartache I guess and hard work but a lot of learning um and hard work but a lot of learning um and hard work but a lot of learning um and all those experiences from I guess and all those experiences from I guess and all those experiences from I guess those failures have kind of led to rec those failures have kind of led to rec those failures have kind of led to rec laab um and me being able to at least laab um and me being able to at least laab um and me being able to at least get it to this point um and what I'm get it to this point um and what I'm get it to this point um and what I'm hopefully learning now will help me to hopefully learning now will help me to hopefully learning now will help me to get it to the next level yeah fantastic get it to the next level yeah fantastic get it to the next level yeah fantastic fantastic so four or five fantastic so four or five fantastic so four or five entrepreneurial Ventures that science entrepreneurial Ventures that science entrepreneurial Ventures that science teacher in year 10 saying mate uh trades teacher in year 10 saying mate uh trades teacher in year 10 saying mate uh trades may be better um so if I can ask you may be better um so if I can ask you may be better um so if I can ask you what had motivated you and what's LED what had motivated you and what's LED what had motivated you and what's LED you to setting up Rec you to setting up Rec you to setting up Rec lab uh it came from a couple of lab uh it came from a couple of lab uh it came from a couple of different spaces uh one was uh my pop different spaces uh one was uh my pop different spaces uh one was uh my pop always used to make a swim over in Bly always used to make a swim over in Bly always used to make a swim over in Bly heads on the go coast and never we' go heads on the go coast and never we' go heads on the go coast and never we' go visit him first thing in the morning visit him first thing in the morning visit him first thing in the morning hated the cold and if he was still hated the cold and if he was still hated the cold and if he was still around today he would be um rubbing his around today he would be um rubbing his around today he would be um rubbing his eyes in disbelief the fact that I'm even

03:00eyes in disbelief the fact that I'm even eyes in disbelief the fact that I'm even doing an ice barath let alone uh running doing an ice barath let alone uh running doing an ice barath let alone uh running a business with them uh so I guess it a business with them uh so I guess it a business with them uh so I guess it sort of spawned there i' also came from sort of spawned there i' also came from sort of spawned there i' also came from an iasa Retreat uh in about eight years an iasa Retreat uh in about eight years an iasa Retreat uh in about eight years ago um that was I guess a very pivotal ago um that was I guess a very pivotal ago um that was I guess a very pivotal moment I didn't quite know how to moment I didn't quite know how to moment I didn't quite know how to process that or exactly what it would process that or exactly what it would process that or exactly what it would look like from from what happened during look like from from what happened during look like from from what happened during that experience and then every Friday that experience and then every Friday that experience and then every Friday morning uh me and my dad uh through one morning uh me and my dad uh through one morning uh me and my dad uh through one of my favorite times of the week we go of my favorite times of the week we go of my favorite times of the week we go down to City Beach for a swim rain h of down to City Beach for a swim rain h of down to City Beach for a swim rain h of shine at 7: a.m. and have breakie shine at 7: a.m. and have breakie shine at 7: a.m. and have breakie together and I just love the rainy together and I just love the rainy together and I just love the rainy stormy days of the beach um at 7 o' in stormy days of the beach um at 7 o' in stormy days of the beach um at 7 o' in the morning there's not too many people the morning there's not too many people the morning there's not too many people there there's always a bunch of older there there's always a bunch of older there there's always a bunch of older BLS uh we call them the True Believers BLS uh we call them the True Believers BLS uh we call them the True Believers which one of our memberships is actually which one of our memberships is actually which one of our memberships is actually named after the True Believers named after the True Believers named after the True Believers and all of those things sort of meshed and all of those things sort of meshed and all of those things sort of meshed into one of my mates was having some into one of my mates was having some into one of my mates was having some mental health stuff going on uh I had an mental health stuff going on uh I had an mental health stuff going on uh I had an opportunity to put an ice bath into a

04:00opportunity to put an ice bath into a opportunity to put an ice bath into a sto at a friend's gym was very fortunate sto at a friend's gym was very fortunate sto at a friend's gym was very fortunate there so we did that I was helping my there so we did that I was helping my there so we did that I was helping my mate and the thing just evolved over the mate and the thing just evolved over the mate and the thing just evolved over the last two years um from a store room with last two years um from a store room with last two years um from a store room with a with a ice bath in it uh to what it is a with a ice bath in it uh to what it is a with a ice bath in it uh to what it is now yeah so I don't know what the now yeah so I don't know what the now yeah so I don't know what the listeners can make of all of that it's listeners can make of all of that it's listeners can make of all of that it's that's I guess it condensed but it's that's I guess it condensed but it's that's I guess it condensed but it's been um it's been a journey well M if I been um it's been a journey well M if I been um it's been a journey well M if I share what you've got now it's share what you've got now it's share what you've got now it's absolutely fantastic fantastic my mate absolutely fantastic fantastic my mate absolutely fantastic fantastic my mate that I swim with Dr fredd English got me that I swim with Dr fredd English got me that I swim with Dr fredd English got me to come H and as you know we've been to come H and as you know we've been to come H and as you know we've been there many times Freddy's Freddy is not there many times Freddy's Freddy is not there many times Freddy's Freddy is not only an advocate but I think he's only an advocate but I think he's only an advocate but I think he's absolutely addicted to the ice bath um absolutely addicted to the ice bath um absolutely addicted to the ice bath um you know what it 10 lots of three you know what it 10 lots of three you know what it 10 lots of three minutes in one minute out then the other minutes in one minute out then the other minutes in one minute out then the other day was four minutes in the hot bath and day was four minutes in the hot bath and day was four minutes in the hot bath and then four minutes in Freddy's always then four minutes in Freddy's always then four minutes in Freddy's always measuring it and giving me numbers we've measuring it and giving me numbers we've measuring it and giving me numbers we've got to perform to and then I think I I got to perform to and then I think I I got to perform to and then I think I I think it was 10 minutes in that in that think it was 10 minutes in that in that think it was 10 minutes in that in that sauner and he's always going let's put sauner and he's always going let's put sauner and he's always going let's put more

05:00more more more put more water on that so um but more put more water on that so um but more put more water on that so um but what we do know is feel so much more what we do know is feel so much more what we do know is feel so much more invigorated at the end of it um what invigorated at the end of it um what invigorated at the end of it um what what what what what research or what do what what what what research or what do what what what what research or what do you know of what do people say about you know of what do people say about you know of what do people say about obviously the Scandinavians have been obviously the Scandinavians have been obviously the Scandinavians have been doing this kind of stuff or the Russians doing this kind of stuff or the Russians doing this kind of stuff or the Russians and the Eastern Europeans have been and the Eastern Europeans have been and the Eastern Europeans have been doing this for a long time but what what doing this for a long time but what what doing this for a long time but what what have you leared or heard or read uh in have you leared or heard or read uh in have you leared or heard or read uh in regard to the some of the research that regard to the some of the research that regard to the some of the research that supports the benefits of the hot cold uh supports the benefits of the hot cold uh supports the benefits of the hot cold uh the what you're doing there at Rec lab the what you're doing there at Rec lab the what you're doing there at Rec lab yeah look I I will never be able to yeah look I I will never be able to yeah look I I will never be able to articulate it as well as the likes of articulate it as well as the likes of articulate it as well as the likes of Andrew hubman um or any of those sort of Andrew hubman um or any of those sort of Andrew hubman um or any of those sort of um people in the space but the main um people in the space but the main um people in the space but the main things for me that I really focused on things for me that I really focused on things for me that I really focused on was the mental health side was the mental health side was the mental health side um what it does with your cortisol um what it does with your cortisol um what it does with your cortisol levels um the dopamine like in a healthy levels um the dopamine like in a healthy levels um the dopamine like in a healthy way um and helping to reduce stress way um and helping to reduce stress way um and helping to reduce stress there's so much evidence out there now

06:00there's so much evidence out there now there's so much evidence out there now that just by doing this and look again I that just by doing this and look again I that just by doing this and look again I can't articulate it well enough can't articulate it well enough can't articulate it well enough but in surviving that three to four but in surviving that three to four but in surviving that three to four minutes in the ice bath and being able minutes in the ice bath and being able minutes in the ice bath and being able to talk yourself through it being able to talk yourself through it being able to talk yourself through it being able to breathe it it very quickly translates to breathe it it very quickly translates to breathe it it very quickly translates into your Waking into your Waking into your Waking Life in a way that in situations that Life in a way that in situations that Life in a way that in situations that possibly would have you know triggered possibly would have you know triggered possibly would have you know triggered you or um forced you to have a response you or um forced you to have a response you or um forced you to have a response that was less than ideal less controlled that was less than ideal less controlled that was less than ideal less controlled um just by being able to do a consistent um just by being able to do a consistent um just by being able to do a consistent ice bath for for a significant amount of ice bath for for a significant amount of ice bath for for a significant amount of time and that's only three or four time and that's only three or four time and that's only three or four minutes um you have better control over minutes um you have better control over minutes um you have better control over your emotional state um better able to your emotional state um better able to your emotional state um better able to regulate your emotions and also find regulate your emotions and also find regulate your emotions and also find that helps you to think clearer um and that helps you to think clearer um and that helps you to think clearer um and there is a whole lot of evidence around there is a whole lot of evidence around there is a whole lot of evidence around that that the Vagas nerve um what kind that that the Vagas nerve um what kind that that the Vagas nerve um what kind of chemical reactions happening in the of chemical reactions happening in the of chemical reactions happening in the body from a contrast perspective though

07:00body from a contrast perspective though body from a contrast perspective though and a physical sense going from the hot and a physical sense going from the hot and a physical sense going from the hot to the cold plunge um is the optimal or to the cold plunge um is the optimal or to the cold plunge um is the optimal or the optimum type of contrast reason the optimum type of contrast reason the optimum type of contrast reason being is that your skin being the body's being is that your skin being the body's being is that your skin being the body's thermometer picks up the changing thermometer picks up the changing thermometer picks up the changing temperature a lot better and quicker temperature a lot better and quicker temperature a lot better and quicker when it's gone from cold water to hot when it's gone from cold water to hot when it's gone from cold water to hot water versus cold water to hot air um water versus cold water to hot air um water versus cold water to hot air um being to sauna sauna is a really popular being to sauna sauna is a really popular being to sauna sauna is a really popular at the moment and they're amazing in at the moment and they're amazing in at the moment and they're amazing in their own right I I do love a good SAA their own right I I do love a good SAA their own right I I do love a good SAA but from a contrast pers but from a contrast pers but from a contrast pers perspective um it's not actually ideal perspective um it's not actually ideal perspective um it's not actually ideal to to go from a four to five minute Cal to to go from a four to five minute Cal to to go from a four to five minute Cal punch and then sitting in a sauna and punch and then sitting in a sauna and punch and then sitting in a sauna and you you will notice that I don't know if you you will notice that I don't know if you you will notice that I don't know if you've noticed that at Rec laab but you've noticed that at Rec laab but you've noticed that at Rec laab but you'll sit in the sauna for the first 10 you'll sit in the sauna for the first 10 you'll sit in the sauna for the first 10 minutes just trying to warm up yes minutes just trying to warm up yes minutes just trying to warm up yes you're not really doing yourself any you're not really doing yourself any you're not really doing yourself any favors there because you're sitting favors there because you're sitting favors there because you're sitting still and your body's actually working still and your body's actually working still and your body's actually working harder to try to get the blood back um harder to try to get the blood back um harder to try to get the blood back um to the extremities but what we want is to the extremities but what we want is to the extremities but what we want is the flush

08:00the flush the flush um which you get almost instantly when um which you get almost instantly when um which you get almost instantly when you jump into the hot you jump into the hot you jump into the hot water right you're absolutely right I water right you're absolutely right I water right you're absolutely right I mean the other day when Freddy I mean mean the other day when Freddy I mean mean the other day when Freddy I mean the previous session where we' done the the previous session where we' done the the previous session where we' done the 10 by 3 minutes in the cold one minute 10 by 3 minutes in the cold one minute 10 by 3 minutes in the cold one minute just out recovering and then going back just out recovering and then going back just out recovering and then going back in the other day when we gone into the in the other day when we gone into the in the other day when we gone into the hot and then into the cold man it felt hot and then into the cold man it felt hot and then into the cold man it felt even colder so it was an even bigger and even colder so it was an even bigger and even colder so it was an even bigger and I take your point there around that gap I take your point there around that gap I take your point there around that gap between stimulus and response part of between stimulus and response part of between stimulus and response part of you wants to scream uh what are you like you wants to scream uh what are you like you wants to scream uh what are you like all sorts of reactions and you are all sorts of reactions and you are all sorts of reactions and you are forced to control your emotional forced to control your emotional forced to control your emotional reaction and not be two-year-old but reaction and not be two-year-old but reaction and not be two-year-old but like and then of course because I've like and then of course because I've like and then of course because I've read the book breath where he talks read the book breath where he talks read the book breath where he talks about the power of nasal breathing and about the power of nasal breathing and about the power of nasal breathing and as you say the Vagas nerve I I'd go to as you say the Vagas nerve I I'd go to as you say the Vagas nerve I I'd go to pranama uh yoga with Andrea um over in pranama uh yoga with Andrea um over in pranama uh yoga with Andrea um over in yokine and that whole relationship yokine and that whole relationship yokine and that whole relationship between breathing slow breathing between breathing slow breathing between breathing slow breathing particularly breathing in through the particularly breathing in through the particularly breathing in through the nose for six seconds holding breathing

09:00nose for six seconds holding breathing nose for six seconds holding breathing out for six how you can then control out for six how you can then control out for six how you can then control your emotional state with breathing um your emotional state with breathing um your emotional state with breathing um and funnily enough three minutes starts and funnily enough three minutes starts and funnily enough three minutes starts to go very quickly and even four minutes to go very quickly and even four minutes to go very quickly and even four minutes starts to go quickly and of course starts to go quickly and of course starts to go quickly and of course Freddy then the other day goes Lee okay Freddy then the other day goes Lee okay Freddy then the other day goes Lee okay in the last 30 seconds at the 30 second in the last 30 seconds at the 30 second in the last 30 seconds at the 30 second Mark we're going to go under our head Mark we're going to go under our head Mark we're going to go under our head come out get the 20 second Mark we're come out get the 20 second Mark we're come out get the 20 second Mark we're going to go into again come out and then going to go into again come out and then going to go into again come out and then at the 10c Mark so by that third come at the 10c Mark so by that third come at the 10c Mark so by that third come under it's like what the hell but it under it's like what the hell but it under it's like what the hell but it just goes to show which again I remember just goes to show which again I remember just goes to show which again I remember seeing a u show on the Navy Seals and seeing a u show on the Navy Seals and seeing a u show on the Navy Seals and one of the coaches or the people in the one of the coaches or the people in the one of the coaches or the people in the Navy Seals said you know the body the Navy Seals said you know the body the Navy Seals said you know the body the body can do far more go far more than body can do far more go far more than body can do far more go far more than the mind tells you the mind there all the mind tells you the mind there all the mind tells you the mind there all these triggers and comfort zones saying these triggers and comfort zones saying these triggers and comfort zones saying no you've done enough and you can go Way no you've done enough and you can go Way no you've done enough and you can go Way Beyond and so then it becomes as you say Beyond and so then it becomes as you say Beyond and so then it becomes as you say that that challenge of managing response

10:00that that challenge of managing response that that challenge of managing response mind control what are your thoughts and mind control what are your thoughts and mind control what are your thoughts and comments in regard to that yeah look um comments in regard to that yeah look um comments in regard to that yeah look um two two I guess um interesting points on two two I guess um interesting points on two two I guess um interesting points on that is that and this is a that is that and this is a that is that and this is a unmeasured scientific study sence Pete unmeasured scientific study sence Pete unmeasured scientific study sence Pete the new people that come to recab that I the new people that come to recab that I the new people that come to recab that I don't give them any run don't give them any run don't give them any run through specifically about the ice bath through specifically about the ice bath through specifically about the ice bath tend to get in and get tend to get in and get tend to get in and get out and when I then when I take the time out and when I then when I take the time out and when I then when I take the time with someone to say hey look um this is with someone to say hey look um this is with someone to say hey look um this is what you're going to feel at 30 seconds what you're going to feel at 30 seconds what you're going to feel at 30 seconds you're going to feel like jumping out at you're going to feel like jumping out at you're going to feel like jumping out at a minute 15 you're going to feel like a minute 15 you're going to feel like a minute 15 you're going to feel like this and then by two minutes you're this and then by two minutes you're this and then by two minutes you're going to be okay and obviously I I going to be okay and obviously I I going to be okay and obviously I I broadened that out and give them a lot broadened that out and give them a lot broadened that out and give them a lot more detail so just saving a bit of time more detail so just saving a bit of time more detail so just saving a bit of time there but when I give them that and that there but when I give them that and that there but when I give them that and that these checkpoints are going to feel this these checkpoints are going to feel this these checkpoints are going to feel this when they get there it's already I guess when they get there it's already I guess when they get there it's already I guess implanted in their mind that that moment implanted in their mind that that moment implanted in their mind that that moment is hard and

11:00is hard and is hard and 95% of people get through their next dip 95% of people get through their next dip 95% of people get through their next dip once they understand that oh that once they understand that oh that once they understand that oh that feeling is normal this is expected I feeling is normal this is expected I feeling is normal this is expected I have to take five breaths five conscious have to take five breaths five conscious have to take five breaths five conscious breaths at this point with my eyes breaths at this point with my eyes breaths at this point with my eyes closed and it will pass um and that goes closed and it will pass um and that goes closed and it will pass um and that goes to the point of the Navy SEAL the body to the point of the Navy SEAL the body to the point of the Navy SEAL the body can take a lot more than the mind and as can take a lot more than the mind and as can take a lot more than the mind and as soon as the mind has been given a bar or soon as the mind has been given a bar or soon as the mind has been given a bar or a temporal marker in the future of this a temporal marker in the future of this a temporal marker in the future of this is what what we expect is what what we expect is what what we expect the body then does it and then people the body then does it and then people the body then does it and then people are walking out doing three four five are walking out doing three four five are walking out doing three four five minute dips and it's great and they love minute dips and it's great and they love minute dips and it's great and they love the experience versus people that don't the experience versus people that don't the experience versus people that don't have that point of reference so I think have that point of reference so I think have that point of reference so I think that on a first point is um is really that on a first point is um is really that on a first point is um is really important important important secondly and look it it's just drawing secondly and look it it's just drawing secondly and look it it's just drawing it back to rec laab a little bit but it back to rec laab a little bit but it back to rec laab a little bit but when ice BS are done in a group setting when ice BS are done in a group setting when ice BS are done in a group setting um particularly like at Rec laab it the um particularly like at Rec laab it the um particularly like at Rec laab it the the shared resilience that you get by

12:00the shared resilience that you get by the shared resilience that you get by suffering side by side um by knowing suffering side by side um by knowing suffering side by side um by knowing that the other person across from you or that the other person across from you or that the other person across from you or next to you is feeling the exact same next to you is feeling the exact same next to you is feeling the exact same thing thing thing um that in itself is such a powerful um that in itself is such a powerful um that in itself is such a powerful tool that that sense of community that tool that that sense of community that tool that that sense of community that shared sufferance the shared resilience shared sufferance the shared resilience shared sufferance the shared resilience building and then the shared almost building and then the shared almost building and then the shared almost Euphoria when you get out together and Euphoria when you get out together and Euphoria when you get out together and everyone's like I did everyone's like I did everyone's like I did it and you know I I've I've watched so it and you know I I've I've watched so it and you know I I've I've watched so many new people get in encourage each many new people get in encourage each many new people get in encourage each other through then jump into the hot other through then jump into the hot other through then jump into the hot life and there's not a lot of talking life and there's not a lot of talking life and there's not a lot of talking that happens in the cold plunges yeah that happens in the cold plunges yeah that happens in the cold plunges yeah then go and sit in the hot plan straight then go and sit in the hot plan straight then go and sit in the hot plan straight after and they're talking about the after and they're talking about the after and they're talking about the experience and then they're talking experience and then they're talking experience and then they're talking about each other and then their lives about each other and then their lives about each other and then their lives and then they building a relationship and then they building a relationship and then they building a relationship that was spawned that was spawned that was spawned from and it it even now it amazes me but from and it it even now it amazes me but from and it it even now it amazes me but a really difficult situation that they a really difficult situation that they a really difficult situation that they haven't encountered before right and all haven't encountered before right and all haven't encountered before right and all of a sudden those social anxieties and

13:00of a sudden those social anxieties and of a sudden those social anxieties and the social norms even that we we the social norms even that we we the social norms even that we we typically carry around with us and we we typically carry around with us and we we typically carry around with us and we we act accordingly kind of disappear um and act accordingly kind of disappear um and act accordingly kind of disappear um and I I it is a pun and I say it knowingly I I it is a pun and I say it knowingly I I it is a pun and I say it knowingly but it just breaks the ice but it just breaks the ice but it just breaks the ice everyone everyone is suffering and you everyone everyone is suffering and you everyone everyone is suffering and you know it's like the bond bring it back to know it's like the bond bring it back to know it's like the bond bring it back to the military that a lot of military guys the military that a lot of military guys the military that a lot of military guys find it they see some horrific things find it they see some horrific things find it they see some horrific things they do some horrific things but it they do some horrific things but it they do some horrific things but it forms a bond that we will never forms a bond that we will never forms a bond that we will never understand um and that bond is through understand um and that bond is through understand um and that bond is through suffering it's through suffering it's through suffering it's through pain not that I I ever want to or need pain not that I I ever want to or need pain not that I I ever want to or need to experience those things to that to experience those things to that to experience those things to that extent but I think this is I guess a extent but I think this is I guess a extent but I think this is I guess a micro do version of that and it's a micro do version of that and it's a micro do version of that and it's a really good way to to get a lot out of really good way to to get a lot out of really good way to to get a lot out of yourself mentally emotionally physically yourself mentally emotionally physically yourself mentally emotionally physically but also socially as well yeah I I think but also socially as well yeah I I think but also socially as well yeah I I think look it's an excellent point that you look it's an excellent point that you look it's an excellent point that you make and you're reminding me because I

14:00make and you're reminding me because I make and you're reminding me because I swim each day and that's where I met swim each day and that's where I met swim each day and that's where I met Fred at pod squad we swim every day at Fred at pod squad we swim every day at Fred at pod squad we swim every day at North cotso rain ha or shine and we've North cotso rain ha or shine and we've North cotso rain ha or shine and we've put ourselves into some pretty crazy put ourselves into some pretty crazy put ourselves into some pretty crazy swimming situations but the bottom line swimming situations but the bottom line swimming situations but the bottom line is the bonding that occurs when you step is the bonding that occurs when you step is the bonding that occurs when you step out of the comfort zone together so as out of the comfort zone together so as out of the comfort zone together so as you say whether it's the Navy Seals you say whether it's the Navy Seals you say whether it's the Navy Seals whether it's like this weekend we're whether it's like this weekend we're whether it's like this weekend we're about to swim to rot Nest the people about to swim to rot Nest the people about to swim to rot Nest the people that do solos there's a real camaraderie that do solos there's a real camaraderie that do solos there's a real camaraderie that might we've really put ourselves that might we've really put ourselves that might we've really put ourselves out there uh to to swim that out there uh to to swim that out there uh to to swim that 19.7k um and um so as you say that 19.7k um and um so as you say that 19.7k um and um so as you say that relationship that occurs uh and again I relationship that occurs uh and again I relationship that occurs uh and again I can just in in the in the cold bath can just in in the in the cold bath can just in in the in the cold bath there not a lot of talking goes on but there not a lot of talking goes on but there not a lot of talking goes on but certainly the D briefing with complete certainly the D briefing with complete certainly the D briefing with complete strangers I know we've spoken to strangers I know we've spoken to strangers I know we've spoken to kickboxers boxers triathletes all the kickboxers boxers triathletes all the kickboxers boxers triathletes all the people we've met there's a one of the people we've met there's a one of the people we've met there's a one of the girls who we met in the ice bath as it girls who we met in the ice bath as it girls who we met in the ice bath as it worked out she was a swimmer she'd swam worked out she was a swimmer she'd swam worked out she was a swimmer she'd swam in the same race that I'd swam the 10K

15:00in the same race that I'd swam the 10K in the same race that I'd swam the 10K race that I'd swam in up at sarento the race that I'd swam in up at sarento the race that I'd swam in up at sarento the day before and now she's a member of day before and now she's a member of day before and now she's a member of psot she said I'll come and swim with psot she said I'll come and swim with psot she said I'll come and swim with you guys and so there's a real you guys and so there's a real you guys and so there's a real connection that occurs there and I know connection that occurs there and I know connection that occurs there and I know by the way you've got some pretty Elite by the way you've got some pretty Elite by the way you've got some pretty Elite athletes that come along to to recad you athletes that come along to to recad you athletes that come along to to recad you want to mention some of the names of want to mention some of the names of want to mention some of the names of some of the people that are regulars some of the people that are regulars some of the people that are regulars there uh yeah look we're we're very there uh yeah look we're we're very there uh yeah look we're we're very fortunate to have um some high-profile fortunate to have um some high-profile fortunate to have um some high-profile basketball players um as well as basketball players um as well as basketball players um as well as football players players um Net ballers football players players um Net ballers football players players um Net ballers I I don't typically like to throw too I I don't typically like to throw too I I don't typically like to throw too many names out just because um yeah I I many names out just because um yeah I I many names out just because um yeah I I have really good friendships with these have really good friendships with these have really good friendships with these guys and yeah part of what I promise guys and yeah part of what I promise guys and yeah part of what I promise them is they can come and use the space them is they can come and use the space them is they can come and use the space cumbered I guess so just for that reason cumbered I guess so just for that reason cumbered I guess so just for that reason but um you know we we've signed deals to but um you know we we've signed deals to but um you know we we've signed deals to give give give you reference point with the waffle you reference point with the waffle you reference point with the waffle whether fishal recovery partner of the whether fishal recovery partner of the whether fishal recovery partner of the waffle offishal recovery partner of the waffle offishal recovery partner of the waffle offishal recovery partner of the West Coast feeld West Coast feeld West Coast feeld we've got another couple of

16:00we've got another couple of we've got another couple of announcements coming out west Western announcements coming out west Western announcements coming out west Western force and we get athletes from from all force and we get athletes from from all force and we get athletes from from all of those codes including the Eagles and of those codes including the Eagles and of those codes including the Eagles and the Dockers coming through to use the the Dockers coming through to use the the Dockers coming through to use the space um so but that is at one end of of space um so but that is at one end of of space um so but that is at one end of of what we offer and most of our clientele what we offer and most of our clientele what we offer and most of our clientele honestly Le is it's everyday people like honestly Le is it's everyday people like honestly Le is it's everyday people like you and me that are literally just you and me that are literally just you and me that are literally just wanting to get either a little bit wanting to get either a little bit wanting to get either a little bit sharper of the mind um wanting to be sharper of the mind um wanting to be sharper of the mind um wanting to be become more disciplined having some become more disciplined having some become more disciplined having some health concerns that they're trying to health concerns that they're trying to health concerns that they're trying to use the therapies for to sort of get on use the therapies for to sort of get on use the therapies for to sort of get on top of um and that honestly makes up 95 top of um and that honestly makes up 95 top of um and that honestly makes up 95 probably even 98% of our of our probably even 98% of our of our probably even 98% of our of our clientele it's just everyday people and clientele it's just everyday people and clientele it's just everyday people and the SP is built for that y yep well I the SP is built for that y yep well I the SP is built for that y yep well I note by the way Pete that you're in note by the way Pete that you're in note by the way Pete that you're in pretty good Nick yourself mate so give pretty good Nick yourself mate so give pretty good Nick yourself mate so give me your background in regard to Sport me your background in regard to Sport me your background in regard to Sport and what you do and what you've done and what you do and what you've done and what you do and what you've done over the years to get in shape and stay over the years to get in shape and stay over the years to get in shape and stay in shape in terms of you leading your

17:00in shape in terms of you leading your in shape in terms of you leading your own best life tell me a bit of the story own best life tell me a bit of the story own best life tell me a bit of the story there a lot of my's Pastor has gone a there a lot of my's Pastor has gone a there a lot of my's Pastor has gone a long long long way um but no I used to play a lot of way um but no I used to play a lot of way um but no I used to play a lot of soccer and Tennis as a kid um did soccer and Tennis as a kid um did soccer and Tennis as a kid um did CrossFit for a little while uh footy for CrossFit for a little while uh footy for CrossFit for a little while uh footy for a little while and then I got into a little while and then I got into a little while and then I got into calisthenics and gymnastics a little bit calisthenics and gymnastics a little bit calisthenics and gymnastics a little bit or more calisthenics I just say or more calisthenics I just say or more calisthenics I just say gymnastics because people don't gymnastics because people don't gymnastics because people don't quite um and I really enjoyed that uh quite um and I really enjoyed that uh quite um and I really enjoyed that uh and then I did a bit of weight training and then I did a bit of weight training and then I did a bit of weight training uh so prior to the kenics and then now I uh so prior to the kenics and then now I uh so prior to the kenics and then now I really just there's that whole Buzz term really just there's that whole Buzz term really just there's that whole Buzz term about the hybrid athlete um that's about the hybrid athlete um that's about the hybrid athlete um that's thrown thrown thrown around not quite sure what mode or around not quite sure what mode or around not quite sure what mode or training style I fit into but I try to training style I fit into but I try to training style I fit into but I try to do sort of three now I've been very busy do sort of three now I've been very busy do sort of three now I've been very busy trying to build this place I didn't trying to build this place I didn't trying to build this place I didn't really have the time while I was really have the time while I was really have the time while I was building it but I try to get about three building it but I try to get about three building it but I try to get about three to four um hit sessions in per week and to four um hit sessions in per week and to four um hit sessions in per week and about a 5k one run once a week that kind

18:00about a 5k one run once a week that kind about a 5k one run once a week that kind of of of just I'm not there to break any records just I'm not there to break any records just I'm not there to break any records yeah um right now it's just about yeah um right now it's just about yeah um right now it's just about building routine back in my life like I building routine back in my life like I building routine back in my life like I haven't had a lot of that and I've haven't had a lot of that and I've haven't had a lot of that and I've always been very physical always trained always been very physical always trained always been very physical always trained a lot um whatever the sport was but I a lot um whatever the sport was but I a lot um whatever the sport was but I lost that during the construction of lost that during the construction of lost that during the construction of this place and so now it's just I just this place and so now it's just I just this place and so now it's just I just want to build routine and draw out the want to build routine and draw out the want to build routine and draw out the discipline that uh this journey has discipline that uh this journey has discipline that uh this journey has required of me kind of bring a bit more required of me kind of bring a bit more required of me kind of bring a bit more of that back into my personal life I of that back into my personal life I of that back into my personal life I definitely lost a lot of that along the definitely lost a lot of that along the definitely lost a lot of that along the way so leading my best life uh is way so leading my best life uh is way so leading my best life uh is getting back on track now yeah yeah getting back on track now yeah yeah getting back on track now yeah yeah let's talk about the journey you went on let's talk about the journey you went on let's talk about the journey you went on to build that place because I've seen to build that place because I've seen to build that place because I've seen bits and pieces in other places in other bits and pieces in other places in other bits and pieces in other places in other podcasts and so on where you live there podcasts and so on where you live there podcasts and so on where you live there or something so give me a bit of the or something so give me a bit of the or something so give me a bit of the journey how long did it take what was journey how long did it take what was journey how long did it take what was the kind of commitment that it took the kind of commitment that it took the kind of commitment that it took paint the picture for me what the paint the picture for me what the paint the picture for me what the journey was like yes so I uh

19:00journey was like yes so I uh journey was like yes so I uh once oh man how F to go back I flew over once oh man how F to go back I flew over once oh man how F to go back I flew over to the east coast um and looked at a to the east coast um and looked at a to the east coast um and looked at a whole bunch of facilities that they had whole bunch of facilities that they had whole bunch of facilities that they had over there uh Sydney Gold Coast Brisbane over there uh Sydney Gold Coast Brisbane over there uh Sydney Gold Coast Brisbane actually went with my dad on one of the actually went with my dad on one of the actually went with my dad on one of the trips came back and went looking for the trips came back and went looking for the trips came back and went looking for the right building uh once we found that and right building uh once we found that and right building uh once we found that and I was able to sign that lease um I I was able to sign that lease um I I was able to sign that lease um I literally sold everything that I owned literally sold everything that I owned literally sold everything that I owned so cars Investments um the whole lot got so cars Investments um the whole lot got so cars Investments um the whole lot got sold um and oddly I don't know whether sold um and oddly I don't know whether sold um and oddly I don't know whether you're a believer in Universe God you're a believer in Universe God you're a believer in Universe God whatever that thing is energy yeah whatever that thing is energy yeah whatever that thing is energy yeah energy um I had just I had to borrow a energy um I had just I had to borrow a energy um I had just I had to borrow a little bit of money but I had almost uh little bit of money but I had almost uh little bit of money but I had almost uh exactly what I needed to make this place exactly what I needed to make this place exactly what I needed to make this place happen so it was sort of funny how a happen so it was sort of funny how a happen so it was sort of funny how a life's worth of work ends up and you can life's worth of work ends up and you can life's worth of work ends up and you can take that whole sum and just make one take that whole sum and just make one take that whole sum and just make one bet with it so once I did that um bet with it so once I did that um bet with it so once I did that um I got this warehouse and it was not in

20:00I got this warehouse and it was not in I got this warehouse and it was not in the best shape this big ceiling all the the best shape this big ceiling all the the best shape this big ceiling all the way through all sorts of stuff so I made way through all sorts of stuff so I made way through all sorts of stuff so I made the decision then that the thing that the decision then that the thing that the decision then that the thing that was driving me the was driving me the was driving me the most um in this was the story that I most um in this was the story that I most um in this was the story that I wanted to tell my kids one day nice and wanted to tell my kids one day nice and wanted to tell my kids one day nice and so whenever it got tough uh that was the so whenever it got tough uh that was the so whenever it got tough uh that was the thing you know what is the story you thing you know what is the story you thing you know what is the story you want to tell your kids and so the story want to tell your kids and so the story want to tell your kids and so the story that I want to tell my kids uh is that that I want to tell my kids uh is that that I want to tell my kids uh is that is the reality which is um I slept here is the reality which is um I slept here is the reality which is um I slept here so as soon as I got the keys almost um I so as soon as I got the keys almost um I so as soon as I got the keys almost um I set up my swag I would shower down at set up my swag I would shower down at set up my swag I would shower down at the local Surf Club in City Beach um and the local Surf Club in City Beach um and the local Surf Club in City Beach um and I would eat $9.99 meals uh from the I would eat $9.99 meals uh from the I would eat $9.99 meals uh from the local IG they discount them for anybody local IG they discount them for anybody local IG they discount them for anybody listening they discount them after I listening they discount them after I listening they discount them after I think 7:30 at night from like 15 bucks think 7:30 at night from like 15 bucks think 7:30 at night from like 15 bucks to 9.99 wow and I have a trade to 9.99 wow and I have a trade to 9.99 wow and I have a trade background so I did all of the demo background so I did all of the demo background so I did all of the demo myself myself myself um I did so everything except for the

21:00um I did so everything except for the um I did so everything except for the plumbing electrical and tiling I did plumbing electrical and tiling I did plumbing electrical and tiling I did myself um and yeah I I spent about three myself um and yeah I I spent about three myself um and yeah I I spent about three and a half months I was sort of and a half months I was sort of and a half months I was sort of doing around about that 18 hours a day doing around about that 18 hours a day doing around about that 18 hours a day mark on the tools as well as trying to mark on the tools as well as trying to mark on the tools as well as trying to manage the manage the manage the project once we got to that point uh project once we got to that point uh project once we got to that point uh probably one of the more proud moment probably one of the more proud moment probably one of the more proud moment was we got signed off by the health was we got signed off by the health was we got signed off by the health department with no defects um anybody in department with no defects um anybody in department with no defects um anybody in the construction industry would know the construction industry would know the construction industry would know dealing with the health department is to dealing with the health department is to dealing with the health department is to not get a defect you've paid someone not get a defect you've paid someone not get a defect you've paid someone which I didn't because I didn't have the which I didn't because I didn't have the which I didn't because I didn't have the money to pay money to pay money to pay anybody but so I was really proud of anybody but so I was really proud of anybody but so I was really proud of that um so it took me two H sorry three that um so it took me two H sorry three that um so it took me two H sorry three and a half months to build um working a and a half months to build um working a and a half months to build um working a lot of hours and then once it was built lot of hours and then once it was built lot of hours and then once it was built I actually put a foldout couch here um I actually put a foldout couch here um I actually put a foldout couch here um and I slept in the store room the room

22:00and I slept in the store room the room and I slept in the store room the room I'm actually in now um for about six I'm actually in now um for about six I'm actually in now um for about six weeks while we were trying to get it off weeks while we were trying to get it off weeks while we were trying to get it off the ground and then after six weeks I the ground and then after six weeks I the ground and then after six weeks I moved into a share house in scarber but moved into a share house in scarber but moved into a share house in scarber but it almost needed to be that way for me it almost needed to be that way for me it almost needed to be that way for me um and it's not that I don't have any um and it's not that I don't have any um and it's not that I don't have any family or friends or anybody that would family or friends or anybody that would family or friends or anybody that would uh would take me in I had plenty of uh would take me in I had plenty of uh would take me in I had plenty of offers um but at the time I was living offers um but at the time I was living offers um but at the time I was living at my mom's after relationship breakdown at my mom's after relationship breakdown at my mom's after relationship breakdown so she lives up in the vines and it was so she lives up in the vines and it was so she lives up in the vines and it was just a bit too far to be driving after just a bit too far to be driving after just a bit too far to be driving after working those 17 days so uh I wanted working those 17 days so uh I wanted working those 17 days so uh I wanted that story to be fully Allin like there that story to be fully Allin like there that story to be fully Allin like there was nothing left on the table um and in was nothing left on the table um and in was nothing left on the table um and in my mind how I did it is what was my mind how I did it is what was my mind how I did it is what was required for me to be able to I guess required for me to be able to I guess required for me to be able to I guess sit here authentically and tell you the sit here authentically and tell you the sit here authentically and tell you the story that I legitimately went all in story that I legitimately went all in story that I legitimately went all in yeah beautiful mate beautiful because yeah beautiful mate beautiful because yeah beautiful mate beautiful because one of my questions is always what is it one of my questions is always what is it one of my questions is always what is it that that that motivates Pete you know and you've motivates Pete you know and you've motivates Pete you know and you've obviously said one of the key motivators obviously said one of the key motivators obviously said one of the key motivators is an authentic story to tell your kids is an authentic story to tell your kids is an authentic story to tell your kids but what if I was to ask you what what

23:00but what if I was to ask you what what but what if I was to ask you what what motivates you at a deeper level motivates you at a deeper level motivates you at a deeper level obviously you've done the iosa retreat obviously you've done the iosa retreat obviously you've done the iosa retreat so something happened there as well H if so something happened there as well H if so something happened there as well H if you reflect and ask what what really you reflect and ask what what really you reflect and ask what what really drives you on a daily basis to do what drives you on a daily basis to do what drives you on a daily basis to do what you've done 17 18 hour days you know you've done 17 18 hour days you know you've done 17 18 hour days you know particularly with this project and and I particularly with this project and and I particularly with this project and and I suppose the the the positive suppose the the the positive suppose the the the positive reinforcement the benefits you see each reinforcement the benefits you see each reinforcement the benefits you see each day what what turns Pete on what day what what turns Pete on what day what what turns Pete on what motivates motivates motivates Pete uh there's just saying Pete uh there's just saying Pete uh there's just saying uh uh uh by Muhammad Ali which is service to by Muhammad Ali which is service to by Muhammad Ali which is service to others is the rent you pay for your time others is the rent you pay for your time others is the rent you pay for your time here on Earth oh wow and my parents uh here on Earth oh wow and my parents uh here on Earth oh wow and my parents uh not that they raised me with that quote not that they raised me with that quote not that they raised me with that quote but they are very good people and I but they are very good people and I but they are very good people and I always mom was selfless in her service always mom was selfless in her service always mom was selfless in her service to us kids um and so was Dad both in to us kids um and so was Dad both in to us kids um and so was Dad both in different ways but I always watched my different ways but I always watched my different ways but I always watched my dad quite a lot um he would always try dad quite a lot um he would always try dad quite a lot um he would always try to do right by people and make things as to do right by people and make things as to do right by people and make things as good as he good as he good as he could and I think the Apple doesn't fall

24:00could and I think the Apple doesn't fall could and I think the Apple doesn't fall far from the tree um and what really far from the tree um and what really far from the tree um and what really motivates me is that I genuinely believe motivates me is that I genuinely believe motivates me is that I genuinely believe that this thing that this thing that this thing helps to change people's lives and yeah helps to change people's lives and yeah helps to change people's lives and yeah you know that is such a buzz word and it you know that is such a buzz word and it you know that is such a buzz word and it can kind of get lost in in it's just can kind of get lost in in it's just can kind of get lost in in it's just sort of been bastardized I guess a sort of been bastardized I guess a sort of been bastardized I guess a little bit lately but what drives me is the fact that I get to what drives me is the fact that I get to make a difference and I came from a make a difference and I came from a make a difference and I came from a corporate world prior in last few years corporate world prior in last few years corporate world prior in last few years at my old Ro where you're not really at my old Ro where you're not really at my old Ro where you're not really making a difference you're just trying making a difference you're just trying making a difference you're just trying to make a dollar and how you made that to make a dollar and how you made that to make a dollar and how you made that dollar doesn't really matter as long as dollar doesn't really matter as long as dollar doesn't really matter as long as you get the dollar and that's not you get the dollar and that's not you get the dollar and that's not really in alignment with me really in alignment with me really in alignment with me so runting that out what drives me is so runting that out what drives me is so runting that out what drives me is just the fact that every day now um I just the fact that every day now um I just the fact that every day now um I get to impact people's lives and get to impact people's lives and get to impact people's lives and sometimes it's just as simple as when sometimes it's just as simple as when sometimes it's just as simple as when I'm on the front desk how you interact I'm on the front desk how you interact I'm on the front desk how you interact with someone they walk in um and I

25:00with someone they walk in um and I with someone they walk in um and I always don't have the best days all the always don't have the best days all the always don't have the best days all the time so it might not be that occasion time so it might not be that occasion time so it might not be that occasion but it might be when I'm out there but it might be when I'm out there but it might be when I'm out there squeeing water and I get to have a chat squeeing water and I get to have a chat squeeing water and I get to have a chat with them or it help someone do the ice with them or it help someone do the ice with them or it help someone do the ice bath from their first time and it's in bath from their first time and it's in bath from their first time and it's in this space that I've made and so that's this space that I've made and so that's this space that I've made and so that's it's almost a selfish pursuit to be it's almost a selfish pursuit to be it's almost a selfish pursuit to be completely honest with completely honest with completely honest with you my cup gets filled you my cup gets filled you my cup gets filled up by others and up by others and up by others and and I therefore want to continue that so and I therefore want to continue that so and I therefore want to continue that so I don't actually know whether it's I don't actually know whether it's I don't actually know whether it's selfless or selfish um because the end selfless or selfish um because the end selfless or selfish um because the end result is me feeling a lot better about result is me feeling a lot better about result is me feeling a lot better about myself but the intent is to to help myself but the intent is to to help myself but the intent is to to help others and to be of service right that's others and to be of service right that's others and to be of service right that's beautiful I mean my cup gets filled up beautiful I mean my cup gets filled up beautiful I mean my cup gets filled up by by others that's beautiful you're by by others that's beautiful you're by by others that's beautiful you're reminding me of another good M of mine reminding me of another good M of mine reminding me of another good M of mine Shane Stedman who's a famous surfboard Shane Stedman who's a famous surfboard Shane Stedman who's a famous surfboard maker in Sydney and I said mate uh maker in Sydney and I said mate uh maker in Sydney and I said mate uh something along the lines I said on he something along the lines I said on he something along the lines I said on he said the reason I'm S I said what you're said the reason I'm S I said what you're said the reason I'm S I said what you're always nice and positive to other people always nice and positive to other people always nice and positive to other people he goes Lee the reason I'm nice and

26:00he goes Lee the reason I'm nice and he goes Lee the reason I'm nice and positive to other people is because I'm positive to other people is because I'm positive to other people is because I'm selfish I said what are you talking selfish I said what are you talking selfish I said what are you talking about he said because when I'm nice to about he said because when I'm nice to about he said because when I'm nice to other people they're nice back to me so other people they're nice back to me so other people they're nice back to me so it's a win-win so there you are in your it's a win-win so there you are in your it's a win-win so there you are in your case it's it's a real win-win situation case it's it's a real win-win situation case it's it's a real win-win situation and we talk about we talk about one of and we talk about we talk about one of and we talk about we talk about one of the areas of study that we we do use in the areas of study that we we do use in the areas of study that we we do use in coaching is an area called NLP neural coaching is an area called NLP neural coaching is an area called NLP neural linguistic programming NLP so when you linguistic programming NLP so when you linguistic programming NLP so when you were talking a second ago about Framing were talking a second ago about Framing were talking a second ago about Framing and we call Framing and pre-f framing and we call Framing and pre-f framing and we call Framing and pre-f framing the experience in the cold bath when the experience in the cold bath when the experience in the cold bath when you're actually F we call that future you're actually F we call that future you're actually F we call that future pacing which is what you're going to pacing which is what you're going to pacing which is what you're going to feel in the first 30 seconds is this feel in the first 30 seconds is this feel in the first 30 seconds is this what's going to happen in the first what's going to happen in the first what's going to happen in the first minute is this and so you're actually minute is this and so you're actually minute is this and so you're actually creating a movie in the person's head uh creating a movie in the person's head uh creating a movie in the person's head uh and we call it future pacing um and and we call it future pacing um and and we call it future pacing um and framing their experience before they framing their experience before they framing their experience before they even go in so you even go in so you even go in so you can it's just as easy to say to someone can it's just as easy to say to someone can it's just as easy to say to someone what's going to happen is you're gonna what's going to happen is you're gonna what's going to happen is you're gonna you're gonna you're going to hate it you're gonna you're going to hate it you're gonna you're going to hate it because it's so going to be so cold and because it's so going to be so cold and because it's so going to be so cold and you're going to want to get out after 30 you're going to want to get out after 30 you're going to want to get out after 30 seconds and you know a lot of people seconds and you know a lot of people seconds and you know a lot of people versus you know what's going to happen

27:00versus you know what's going to happen versus you know what's going to happen the first 30 seconds it will feel tough the first 30 seconds it will feel tough the first 30 seconds it will feel tough but then what's going to happen then and but then what's going to happen then and but then what's going to happen then and the same experiences when you say to the same experiences when you say to the same experiences when you say to someone before they go to a movie you someone before they go to a movie you someone before they go to a movie you can preframe their experience ah the can preframe their experience ah the can preframe their experience ah the lighting's bad or the the production's lighting's bad or the the production's lighting's bad or the the production's bad or or you say it's one of the best bad or or you say it's one of the best bad or or you say it's one of the best movies I've ever seen however what do movies I've ever seen however what do movies I've ever seen however what do you say to that person sets up their you say to that person sets up their you say to that person sets up their experience before they actually have the experience before they actually have the experience before they actually have the experience and you can shape it one way experience and you can shape it one way experience and you can shape it one way or the other does what are your thoughts or the other does what are your thoughts or the other does what are your thoughts oh 100% um and you know that just made oh 100% um and you know that just made oh 100% um and you know that just made me think then about the sto when I say me think then about the sto when I say me think then about the sto when I say the thing got me through a lot of times the thing got me through a lot of times the thing got me through a lot of times is what is the story I want to tell my is what is the story I want to tell my is what is the story I want to tell my kids one day um I'm pre framing just kids one day um I'm pre framing just kids one day um I'm pre framing just just in that because the story that I just in that because the story that I just in that because the story that I want to tell my kids is that that I I am want to tell my kids is that that I I am want to tell my kids is that that I I am a a man a a man a a man that has the conviction to do what I say that has the conviction to do what I say that has the conviction to do what I say I'm going to do uh even if that means I'm going to do uh even if that means I'm going to do uh even if that means I'm left with I'm left with I'm left with nothing but I did thing and I can sit

28:00nothing but I did thing and I can sit nothing but I did thing and I can sit here and tell you that I did the thing here and tell you that I did the thing here and tell you that I did the thing and the thing is successful and that is and the thing is successful and that is and the thing is successful and that is why we have what we have that is why I'm why we have what we have that is why I'm why we have what we have that is why I'm able to impart whatever wisdom I get to able to impart whatever wisdom I get to able to impart whatever wisdom I get to impart but I'm preing those impart but I'm preing those impart but I'm preing those conversations with like my five 10 15 conversations with like my five 10 15 conversations with like my five 10 15 year old kids uh now like year old kids uh now like year old kids uh now like this this thing had to get built for this this thing had to get built for this this thing had to get built for that story uh we have to be growing for that story uh we have to be growing for that story uh we have to be growing for that story uh I have to be turning a that story uh I have to be turning a that story uh I have to be turning a profit for that story I have to have profit for that story I have to have profit for that story I have to have Google reviews that like almost bring me Google reviews that like almost bring me Google reviews that like almost bring me to tears for that story I have to have to tears for that story I have to have to tears for that story I have to have people go oh yeah Pete helped me through people go oh yeah Pete helped me through people go oh yeah Pete helped me through my first ice barath for that moment in my first ice barath for that moment in my first ice barath for that moment in time and I think that I didn't even know time and I think that I didn't even know time and I think that I didn't even know that I was doing it but I was that I was doing it but I was that I was doing it but I was pre-framed this whole thing by the pre-framed this whole thing by the pre-framed this whole thing by the conversations I want to have in 10 years conversations I want to have in 10 years conversations I want to have in 10 years with yeah yeah well well I I I mean you with yeah yeah well well I I I mean you with yeah yeah well well I I I mean you one you're you're you're setting up your one you're you're you're setting up your one you're you're you're setting up your own life talk about manifesting and

29:00own life talk about manifesting and own life talk about manifesting and creating if we're talking about universe creating if we're talking about universe creating if we're talking about universe and energy in your head that story as and energy in your head that story as and energy in your head that story as you said by setting that as a goal then you said by setting that as a goal then you said by setting that as a goal then you reverse engineering I'm going to be you reverse engineering I'm going to be you reverse engineering I'm going to be able to tell that story here are all the able to tell that story here are all the able to tell that story here are all the things I'm going to need to do and this things I'm going to need to do and this things I'm going to need to do and this is the type of person I'm going to need is the type of person I'm going to need is the type of person I'm going to need to be which again the great James Ron to be which again the great James Ron to be which again the great James Ron one of the great speakers talks about one of the great speakers talks about one of the great speakers talks about you know it's it setting a goal as one you know it's it setting a goal as one you know it's it setting a goal as one thing and working towards the goal but thing and working towards the goal but thing and working towards the goal but it's who you become in the pursuit of it's who you become in the pursuit of it's who you become in the pursuit of the goal and this Evolution that's going the goal and this Evolution that's going the goal and this Evolution that's going on with you and of course in doing so on with you and of course in doing so on with you and of course in doing so you're helping others to evolve as well you're helping others to evolve as well you're helping others to evolve as well that's that like that Marian Williamson that's that like that Marian Williamson that's that like that Marian Williamson quote in you giving yourself permission quote in you giving yourself permission quote in you giving yourself permission to shine you help light others you help to shine you help light others you help to shine you help light others you help them give themselves permission to shine them give themselves permission to shine them give themselves permission to shine and the beautiful thing about we talk and the beautiful thing about we talk and the beautiful thing about we talk about ecosystems we say the forest about ecosystems we say the forest about ecosystems we say the forest shapes the tree it's a famous French shapes the tree it's a famous French shapes the tree it's a famous French proverb the ecosystem you're in helps proverb the ecosystem you're in helps proverb the ecosystem you're in helps shape you and what you're doing there in shape you and what you're doing there in shape you and what you're doing there in that ecosystem it's just it's an that ecosystem it's just it's an that ecosystem it's just it's an ecosystem of excellence in the people ecosystem of excellence in the people ecosystem of excellence in the people are going there you know boxers or

30:00are going there you know boxers or are going there you know boxers or kickboxers or footballers or us as kickboxers or footballers or us as kickboxers or footballers or us as swimmers or as you say moms and dads say swimmers or as you say moms and dads say swimmers or as you say moms and dads say how can I be better and the and the how can I be better and the and the how can I be better and the and the beautiful thing about it is that I'm beautiful thing about it is that I'm beautiful thing about it is that I'm picking up from you Pete is on the one picking up from you Pete is on the one picking up from you Pete is on the one hand you're talking about the physical hand you're talking about the physical hand you're talking about the physical manifestation the tiling and the manifestation the tiling and the manifestation the tiling and the building and how physically beautiful it building and how physically beautiful it building and how physically beautiful it is in terms of the outer World um but is in terms of the outer World um but is in terms of the outer World um but there's an inner world there's an inner there's an inner world there's an inner there's an inner world there's an inner World Evolution going on in that place World Evolution going on in that place World Evolution going on in that place uh as you say the breathing getting in uh as you say the breathing getting in uh as you say the breathing getting in touch with your own emotions managing touch with your own emotions managing touch with your own emotions managing your own State it's as much about an your own State it's as much about an your own State it's as much about an inner Evolution as it is about why I inner Evolution as it is about why I inner Evolution as it is about why I wanted my body to look fantastic uh wanted my body to look fantastic uh wanted my body to look fantastic uh there's a whole other Journey going on there's a whole other Journey going on there's a whole other Journey going on both with the people there but you but both with the people there but you but both with the people there but you but you also want to make a comment to that you also want to make a comment to that you also want to make a comment to that yeah look the amount of people that have yeah look the amount of people that have yeah look the amount of people that have cried in the ice barath is it's probably cried in the ice barath is it's probably cried in the ice barath is it's probably filled the ice baths up so they didn't filled the ice baths up so they didn't filled the ice baths up so they didn't have to top them up that day like the have to top them up that day like the have to top them up that day like the release that some people have release that some people have release that some people have particularly if they're just storing

31:00particularly if they're just storing particularly if they're just storing stuff um that comes out stuff um that comes out stuff um that comes out is I mean it's obviously very cathartic is I mean it's obviously very cathartic is I mean it's obviously very cathartic and very healing for them but again and very healing for them but again and very healing for them but again selfish in the pursuit but that FS my selfish in the pursuit but that FS my selfish in the pursuit but that FS my cup because they get out I get to hold cup because they get out I get to hold cup because they get out I get to hold space for them I get to give them a big space for them I get to give them a big space for them I get to give them a big hug what going on and having a genuine hug what going on and having a genuine hug what going on and having a genuine [Music] [Music] conversation they then leave with a conversation they then leave with a conversation they then leave with a sense of accomplishment but they also sense of accomplishment but they also sense of accomplishment but they also kind of got rid of a little bit of kind of got rid of a little bit of kind of got rid of a little bit of baggage or maybe they just broke a baggage or maybe they just broke a baggage or maybe they just broke a little bit of some subconscious stuff up little bit of some subconscious stuff up little bit of some subconscious stuff up that that they can now deal with some that that they can now deal with some that that they can now deal with some fragments of um and then that leads me fragments of um and then that leads me fragments of um and then that leads me into from an energy perspective like we into from an energy perspective like we into from an energy perspective like we Sage this space down um we use singing Sage this space down um we use singing Sage this space down um we use singing balls in here to cleanse it Al when I balls in here to cleanse it Al when I balls in here to cleanse it Al when I first got it we we went through that first got it we we went through that first got it we we went through that process and we have some crystals around process and we have some crystals around process and we have some crystals around the place as well purely just the place as well purely just the place as well purely just because energy is so important and yeah because energy is so important and yeah because energy is so important and yeah a lot of people will come here after a

32:00a lot of people will come here after a a lot of people will come here after a bad day just to change their state of bad day just to change their state of bad day just to change their state of being but they they bring that energy in being but they they bring that energy in being but they they bring that energy in um and I don't mean you would speak to um and I don't mean you would speak to um and I don't mean you would speak to it better than me because I'm definitely it better than me because I'm definitely it better than me because I'm definitely biased but the space has an energy of biased but the space has an energy of biased but the space has an energy of healing of uh letting go I think that's healing of uh letting go I think that's healing of uh letting go I think that's probably why it makes it easy for people probably why it makes it easy for people probably why it makes it easy for people to be a bit more social in here a bit to be a bit more social in here a bit to be a bit more social in here a bit more open to having conversations with more open to having conversations with more open to having conversations with each other about deeper sort of each other about deeper sort of each other about deeper sort of things wow uh I wasn't aware of that but things wow uh I wasn't aware of that but things wow uh I wasn't aware of that but so so one you said what you did was you so so one you said what you did was you so so one you said what you did was you did some kind of did some kind of did some kind of energy clearing when you before you energy clearing when you before you energy clearing when you before you opened it and you're saying you do that opened it and you're saying you do that opened it and you're saying you do that on a regular basis in some way y yep on a regular basis in some way y yep on a regular basis in some way y yep yeah before I opened we uh I had an yeah before I opened we uh I had an yeah before I opened we uh I had an energy worker come through she saged the energy worker come through she saged the energy worker come through she saged the place down she went through with singing place down she went through with singing place down she went through with singing balls just to disrup the frequency um balls just to disrup the frequency um balls just to disrup the frequency um that was in here just to cleanse the that was in here just to cleanse the that was in here just to cleanse the space then once we got the final sign space then once we got the final sign space then once we got the final sign off we did another cleanse three and off we did another cleanse three and off we did another cleanse three and then about once a month I um I Sage it

33:00then about once a month I um I Sage it then about once a month I um I Sage it down just as down just as down just as you any other cleaning activity um you any other cleaning activity um you any other cleaning activity um energy is so important and wow this energy is so important and wow this energy is so important and wow this energy needs to be of this space um at energy needs to be of this space um at energy needs to be of this space um at least the way that I believe it needs to least the way that I believe it needs to least the way that I believe it needs to be um is just as clean as possible um be um is just as clean as possible um be um is just as clean as possible um and as conducive for people to and as conducive for people to and as conducive for people to feel comfortable comfortable on a an feel comfortable comfortable on a an feel comfortable comfortable on a an emotional level as well as a physical emotional level as well as a physical emotional level as well as a physical level wow and well I I wasn't aware of level wow and well I I wasn't aware of level wow and well I I wasn't aware of that at all but that's that's just that at all but that's that's just that at all but that's that's just incredible that you've gone to that that incredible that you've gone to that that incredible that you've gone to that that level of uh of detail and of course it level of uh of detail and of course it level of uh of detail and of course it makes complete sense so where did you makes complete sense so where did you makes complete sense so where did you first get exposed to this whole world of first get exposed to this whole world of first get exposed to this whole world of energy and I I've never even heard the energy and I I've never even heard the energy and I I've never even heard the term Sage it down so tell me about that term Sage it down so tell me about that term Sage it down so tell me about that and where did where were you introduced and where did where were you introduced and where did where were you introduced to it and what impacts it had on your to it and what impacts it had on your to it and what impacts it had on your life and how you Ed that life and how you Ed that life and how you Ed that yeah I my mom was always quote unquote

34:00yeah I my mom was always quote unquote yeah I my mom was always quote unquote spiritual um so there was crystals spiritual um so there was crystals spiritual um so there was crystals around and things like that tarot cards around and things like that tarot cards around and things like that tarot cards and and and whatnot then you know whatnot then you know whatnot then you know I I think the exposure to that through I I think the exposure to that through I I think the exposure to that through my teenage years obviously every teenage my teenage years obviously every teenage my teenage years obviously every teenage boy in testosterone and yada yada yada boy in testosterone and yada yada yada boy in testosterone and yada yada yada you can conquer the world on your own you can conquer the world on your own you can conquer the world on your own but I think I found solace Maybe maybe but I think I found solace Maybe maybe but I think I found solace Maybe maybe in during some difficult times in in during some difficult times in in during some difficult times in meditating um and then that then leads meditating um and then that then leads meditating um and then that then leads you into a little bit of an exploration you into a little bit of an exploration you into a little bit of an exploration of energy um and different energies you of energy um and different energies you of energy um and different energies you feel while you're en while you're meditating that then uh ties in with meditating that then uh ties in with manifestation and I think I manifestation and I think I manifestation and I think I just I saw things just I saw things just I saw things unravel before my eyes or I would think unravel before my eyes or I would think unravel before my eyes or I would think of something and then it would happen or of something and then it would happen or of something and then it would happen or I guess there was obviously some

35:00I guess there was obviously some I guess there was obviously some micro experiences that formed a micro experiences that formed a micro experiences that formed a foundation of a belief system in me of foundation of a belief system in me of foundation of a belief system in me of be good to others Good Karma be good to others Good Karma be good to others Good Karma um what I can see in here I can um what I can see in here I can um what I can see in here I can create I don't have to know the ins and create I don't have to know the ins and create I don't have to know the ins and outs I just have to trust that that outs I just have to trust that that outs I just have to trust that that things will work things will work things will work out and then that just leads you into out and then that just leads you into out and then that just leads you into things like crystals um Sage things like crystals um Sage things like crystals um Sage c um I actually never did any c um I actually never did any c um I actually never did any psychedelics uh growing up even as a psychedelics uh growing up even as a psychedelics uh growing up even as a teenager um I definitely parted in my teenager um I definitely parted in my teenager um I definitely parted in my younger years but psychedelic stuff was younger years but psychedelic stuff was younger years but psychedelic stuff was not something I was interested in and not something I was interested in and not something I was interested in and then I a a very good friend of mine uh I I a a very good friend of mine uh I guess opened my awareness up to

36:00things like iasa um and plant medicine things like iasa um and plant medicine and that whole world and then when you and that whole world and then when you and that whole world and then when you look back through the history of that look back through the history of that look back through the history of that like it it amazes me how my interest in like it it amazes me how my interest in like it it amazes me how my interest in in iasa for example the reason that I in iasa for example the reason that I in iasa for example the reason that I went to PR to do it was that this went to PR to do it was that this went to PR to do it was that this recipe we have all the science in the recipe we have all the science in the recipe we have all the science in the world right now we can't do with world right now we can't do with world right now we can't do with cancer but Incans that the Peru people cancer but Incans that the Peru people cancer but Incans that the Peru people discovered that if they cooked the discovered that if they cooked the discovered that if they cooked the cactus with other cactus with other cactus with other ingredients in such a way and then ingredients in such a way and then ingredients in such a way and then boiled it down and then did this and boiled it down and then did this and boiled it down and then did this and then did that and then did that and then did that and like they from somewhere were given this like they from somewhere were given this like they from somewhere were given this recipe that enabled them to safely enter recipe that enabled them to safely enter recipe that enabled them to safely enter a whole different state of consciousness a whole different state of consciousness a whole different state of consciousness where they were able to not just work on where they were able to not just work on where they were able to not just work on their own in inner beings but also the their own in inner beings but also the their own in inner beings but also the energetic frequency of the space around energetic frequency of the space around energetic frequency of the space around them the Intrigue there I was like how

37:00them the Intrigue there I was like how them the Intrigue there I was like how can like we can't figure out how to do can like we can't figure out how to do can like we can't figure out how to do you know what I mean we can't cure you know what I mean we can't cure you know what I mean we can't cure cancer but these guys have worked out cancer but these guys have worked out cancer but these guys have worked out how some energetics work and Inter how some energetics work and Inter how some energetics work and Inter connecting with the the universe and so connecting with the the universe and so connecting with the the universe and so on in in it's it just blows my mind when on in in it's it just blows my mind when on in in it's it just blows my mind when I put it in the perspective of you know I put it in the perspective of you know I put it in the perspective of you know even for example building the pyramids even for example building the pyramids even for example building the pyramids and what we build I have a construction and what we build I have a construction and what we build I have a construction background there's just no way in hell background there's just no way in hell background there's just no way in hell that we now can build the appear M but that we now can build the appear M but that we now can build the appear M but yet they did things like that and so it yet they did things like that and so it yet they did things like that and so it interested it interested me interested it interested me interested it interested me that their whole culture was built that their whole culture was built that their whole culture was built around this inner world that in going in around this inner world that in going in around this inner world that in going in they went broadly out like in a they went broadly out like in a they went broadly out like in a universal universal universal scape scape scape and I didn't want to experience that for and I didn't want to experience that for and I didn't want to experience that for the sake of the trip or the experience I the sake of the trip or the experience I the sake of the trip or the experience I wanted to experience it because I guess wanted to experience it because I guess wanted to experience it because I guess there were parts of myself that I did there were parts of myself that I did there were parts of myself that I did know or I wanted to be more or better

38:00know or I wanted to be more or better know or I wanted to be more or better whatever was happening for me at the age whatever was happening for me at the age whatever was happening for me at the age of of 25 and so I decided to to head over to 25 and so I decided to to head over to 25 and so I decided to to head over to Peru we did this 8 day iasa Retreat Peru we did this 8 day iasa Retreat Peru we did this 8 day iasa Retreat where we we took medicine for eight where we we took medicine for eight where we we took medicine for eight days um and now I'm just rambling I days um and now I'm just rambling I days um and now I'm just rambling I actually forgot the question so coming actually forgot the question so coming actually forgot the question so coming back to that then um just we're talking back to that then um just we're talking back to that then um just we're talking about the world of energetics let's talk about the world of energetics let's talk about the world of energetics let's talk about that for a second now you've about that for a second now you've about that for a second now you've mentioned it so on the other side of the mentioned it so on the other side of the mentioned it so on the other side of the eight days and the waska what went on eight days and the waska what went on eight days and the waska what went on for you what was any breakthrough or for you what was any breakthrough or for you what was any breakthrough or Insight or change that went on or Insight or change that went on or Insight or change that went on or benefit that you got as a result of benefit that you got as a result of benefit that you got as a result of going to Peru and doing that ioska trip going to Peru and doing that ioska trip going to Peru and doing that ioska trip yeah I and for I'm a very upfront yeah I and for I'm a very upfront yeah I and for I'm a very upfront genuine person so some might not might genuine person so some might not might genuine person so some might not might not like what I'm about to say but not like what I'm about to say but not like what I'm about to say but um I recorded a diary every day video um I recorded a diary every day video um I recorded a diary every day video diary I respect to the camera and I diary I respect to the camera and I diary I respect to the camera and I think I subconsciously knew that I think I subconsciously knew that I think I subconsciously knew that I wasn't going to be able to process will wasn't going to be able to process will wasn't going to be able to process will deal with what was happening in that deal with what was happening in that deal with what was happening in that experience and so after the 8 Days um

39:00experience and so after the 8 Days um experience and so after the 8 Days um you go so etheric like you go so etheric like you go so etheric like ethereal and then you kind of come back ethereal and then you kind of come back ethereal and then you kind of come back and you go into this and you go into this and you go into this chaotic chaotic chaotic societal construct of societal construct of societal construct of Peru and you have all of this awareness Peru and you have all of this awareness Peru and you have all of this awareness and understanding of yourself and how we and understanding of yourself and how we and understanding of yourself and how we are just the same Le like we're both are just the same Le like we're both are just the same Le like we're both energy and you to amalgamate back into energy and you to amalgamate back into energy and you to amalgamate back into society uh I at 25 I could do and so I I society uh I at 25 I could do and so I I society uh I at 25 I could do and so I I quite literally spent four months quite literally spent four months quite literally spent four months drinking and partying my way through drinking and partying my way through drinking and partying my way through South America with South America with South America with this heaviness on my back that I could this heaviness on my back that I could this heaviness on my back that I could not I didn't want to actually look at not I didn't want to actually look at not I didn't want to actually look at what I had what I had what I had learned what that meant for me because learned what that meant for me because learned what that meant for me because it completely changes your whole it completely changes your whole it completely changes your whole construct of reality and it was much construct of reality and it was much construct of reality and it was much easier for me directly after the the easier for me directly after the the easier for me directly after the the week to just go numb to it numb the

40:00week to just go numb to it numb the week to just go numb to it numb the alcohol can numb and dumb you just numb alcohol can numb and dumb you just numb alcohol can numb and dumb you just numb it down and dumb it down you had it yeah it down and dumb it down you had it yeah it down and dumb it down you had it yeah 100% And I I genuinely did that um but 100% And I I genuinely did that um but 100% And I I genuinely did that um but the best thing I did was I made all the best thing I did was I made all the best thing I did was I made all these video recordings on the way so I these video recordings on the way so I these video recordings on the way so I often refer back to them every couple of often refer back to them every couple of often refer back to them every couple of months and I rewatch them which is months and I rewatch them which is months and I rewatch them which is amazing for me now because the relevance amazing for me now because the relevance amazing for me now because the relevance then to now of the relevance then to any then to now of the relevance then to any then to now of the relevance then to any period in your life because you're period in your life because you're period in your life because you're learning about you and the univers learning about you and the univers learning about you and the univers you're in the universe that you're a you're in the universe that you're a you're in the universe that you're a part of but the universe that you also part of but the universe that you also part of but the universe that you also are right like it's you're in it you're are right like it's you're in it you're are right like it's you're in it you're a part of it but it's also you um as a part of it but it's also you um as a part of it but it's also you um as weird as that sounds yeah weird as that sounds yeah weird as that sounds yeah so I I was actually told on that retreat so I I was actually told on that retreat so I I was actually told on that retreat by the by the by the Sham uh and one of the leaders of it Sham uh and one of the leaders of it Sham uh and one of the leaders of it that I would be taking practices back to that I would be taking practices back to that I would be taking practices back to to home that we had done on the retreat to home that we had done on the retreat to home that we had done on the retreat to help to heal people and my role in to help to heal people and my role in to help to heal people and my role in society was going to be about healing

41:00society was going to be about healing society was going to be about healing people physically energetically and people physically energetically and people physically energetically and spiritually and you give that to a 25y spiritually and you give that to a 25y spiritually and you give that to a 25y old rofer like this is what you're meant old rofer like this is what you're meant old rofer like this is what you're meant to do with your life right I just I didn't know how to do right I just I didn't know how to do that but that but that but interestingly the day that or the night interestingly the day that or the night interestingly the day that or the night that I was told that uh that day we had that I was told that uh that day we had that I was told that uh that day we had done a plant medicine called White Shuma done a plant medicine called White Shuma done a plant medicine called White Shuma and that's more of a you have white and that's more of a you have white and that's more of a you have white Shuma during the day you have eyewash Shuma during the day you have eyewash Shuma during the day you have eyewash during the night one's feminine one's during the night one's feminine one's during the night one's feminine one's masculine and that day we had done masculine and that day we had done masculine and that day we had done contrast therapy so they had this contrast therapy so they had this contrast therapy so they had this waterfall there that was abolutely waterfall there that was abolutely waterfall there that was abolutely freezing that ran into a spar sort of freezing that ran into a spar sort of freezing that ran into a spar sort of thing a hole essentially the water ran thing a hole essentially the water ran thing a hole essentially the water ran filled up this thing and then continued filled up this thing and then continued filled up this thing and then continued to run and they had built a sauna it was to run and they had built a sauna it was to run and they had built a sauna it was an underground saer with a little an underground saer with a little an underground saer with a little Cove that we had to crawl in and there Cove that we had to crawl in and there Cove that we had to crawl in and there were these stations North Southeast and

42:00were these stations North Southeast and were these stations North Southeast and West Summer Autumn winter spring uh West Summer Autumn winter spring uh West Summer Autumn winter spring uh different stations inside the SAA which different stations inside the SAA which different stations inside the SAA which is something I'll eventually bring in is something I'll eventually bring in is something I'll eventually bring in here to re M and we'll go from there here to re M and we'll go from there here to re M and we'll go from there into the cold plunge and then back into into the cold plunge and then back into into the cold plunge and then back into the SAA and and and I loved that the SAA and and and I loved that the SAA and and and I loved that experience uh to this day it was and experience uh to this day it was and experience uh to this day it was and obviously I was under the influence of obviously I was under the influence of obviously I was under the influence of pant medicine but it was just the the pant medicine but it was just the the pant medicine but it was just the the memory and the feeling of the memory are memory and the feeling of the memory are memory and the feeling of the memory are so vivid in me now so vivid in me now so vivid in me now that night they told me that that was that night they told me that that was that night they told me that that was what I was going to be bringing back and what I was going to be bringing back and what I was going to be bringing back and eight years later and you know two eight years later and you know two eight years later and you know two failed businesses in that failed businesses in that failed businesses in that time Co and then all of a sudden I find time Co and then all of a sudden I find time Co and then all of a sudden I find myself literally doing what one I was myself literally doing what one I was myself literally doing what one I was shown in one of the journeys as well as shown in one of the journeys as well as shown in one of the journeys as well as what the shaman told me of that it's what the shaman told me of that it's what the shaman told me of that it's just it's mindblowing and that is all just it's mindblowing and that is all just it's mindblowing and that is all energy it is all energy it is all energy it is all frequency and as you say we're we're frequency and as you say we're we're frequency and as you say we're we're we're all interconnected and and and and

43:00we're all interconnected and and and and we're all interconnected and and and and look a made on Greg Campbell who I've look a made on Greg Campbell who I've look a made on Greg Campbell who I've done a a podcast with spent 20 years done a a podcast with spent 20 years done a a podcast with spent 20 years with the Aborigines up up around broom with the Aborigines up up around broom with the Aborigines up up around broom and written a book called total reset and written a book called total reset and written a book called total reset and he said you know those traditional and he said you know those traditional and he said you know those traditional societies um we've we just societies um we've we just societies um we've we just underestimated and educated to underestimated and educated to underestimated and educated to underestimate them or they're just underestimate them or they're just underestimate them or they're just Primitives no no these people understand Primitives no no these people understand Primitives no no these people understand the relationship of energy uh and nature the relationship of energy uh and nature the relationship of energy uh and nature and the energy of trees and rocks and and the energy of trees and rocks and and the energy of trees and rocks and plants and all all of these things and plants and all all of these things and plants and all all of these things and particularly as you say Peru in that in particularly as you say Peru in that in particularly as you say Peru in that in that South American area where there's that South American area where there's that South American area where there's so much still to be learned around so much still to be learned around so much still to be learned around medicines and plants um we think we medicines and plants um we think we medicines and plants um we think we think in the west we know it all but you think in the west we know it all but you think in the west we know it all but you know this this world of energetics and know this this world of energetics and know this this world of energetics and coming back to meditation in the last coming back to meditation in the last coming back to meditation in the last three years I got more involved watching three years I got more involved watching three years I got more involved watching and listening to sad Guru and since for and listening to sad Guru and since for and listening to sad Guru and since for the last two years now I've been doing the last two years now I've been doing the last two years now I've been doing viic meditation and again the Indians viic meditation and again the Indians viic meditation and again the Indians have been on to this for somewhere have been on to this for somewhere have been on to this for somewhere between 10 and 40,000 years let alone between 10 and 40,000 years let alone between 10 and 40,000 years let alone you know Aboriginal Society or any

44:00you know Aboriginal Society or any you know Aboriginal Society or any primitive societies they've been in and primitive societies they've been in and primitive societies they've been in and around some form of meditation chant around some form of meditation chant around some form of meditation chant switching the conscious mind off the switching the conscious mind off the switching the conscious mind off the interconnection The Village the power of interconnection The Village the power of interconnection The Village the power of Village the power of interconnection Village the power of interconnection Village the power of interconnection just incredible like that that sharing just incredible like that that sharing just incredible like that that sharing has just been fantastic and the fact has just been fantastic and the fact has just been fantastic and the fact that here it is as you say eight years that here it is as you say eight years that here it is as you say eight years later and and to a certain extent there later and and to a certain extent there later and and to a certain extent there you were at 25 given that future and you were at 25 given that future and you were at 25 given that future and your 25y old bringing this is just all your 25y old bringing this is just all your 25y old bringing this is just all too much I'm just going to go pissed for too much I'm just going to go pissed for too much I'm just going to go pissed for three three months or or whatever um but three three months or or whatever um but three three months or or whatever um but here you are it's it's it's it's here you are it's it's it's it's here you are it's it's it's it's happened so if I can ask you yeah sorry happened so if I can ask you yeah sorry happened so if I can ask you yeah sorry sorry just on it's crazy I I pinch sorry just on it's crazy I I pinch sorry just on it's crazy I I pinch myself every day on the the myself every day on the the myself every day on the the civilizations and the societies and I I don't get into the societies and I I don't get into the whole racism thing and all that whole racism thing and all that whole racism thing and all that completely putting that to side just in completely putting that to side just in completely putting that to side just in terms of having just a a conversation terms of having just a a conversation terms of having just a a conversation for broadening perspectives we say that

45:00well a cohort of people believe that we well a cohort of people believe that we have advanced civilization right because have advanced civilization right because have advanced civilization right because we have built all these things and we we have built all these things and we we have built all these things and we have guns back 20 to the Moon exactly we have guns back 20 to the Moon exactly we have guns back 20 to the Moon exactly we can do all these things which is amazing can do all these things which is amazing can do all these things which is amazing and I I all Jews you know I I get it and and I I all Jews you know I I get it and and I I all Jews you know I I get it and it's it's it's incredible but that has kind of put a incredible but that has kind of put a incredible but that has kind of put a cohort of the population of the world in cohort of the population of the world in cohort of the population of the world in a position where they feel inferior so a position where they feel inferior so a position where they feel inferior so um not inferior um what's the word I'm um not inferior um what's the word I'm um not inferior um what's the word I'm looking for opposite to inferior well looking for opposite to inferior well looking for opposite to inferior well opposite to in Superior yeah opposite to in Superior yeah opposite to in Superior yeah super yeah and that these other super yeah and that these other super yeah and that these other civilizations Originals you know civilizations Originals you know civilizations Originals you know American Indians your perian are all American Indians your perian are all American Indians your perian are all inferior right we roed up there with inferior right we roed up there with inferior right we roed up there with guns and they just had sticks but they guns and they just had sticks but they guns and they just had sticks but they didn't need any of the stuff right and

46:00didn't need any of the stuff right and didn't need any of the stuff right and so it's like if you just really broadly so it's like if you just really broadly so it's like if you just really broadly go the meaning of life is to just be go the meaning of life is to just be go the meaning of life is to just be content with life so it is just to to to content with life so it is just to to to content with life so it is just to to to go through life in a present state of being they were operating in such a being they were operating in such a level a at such a level of presence and level a at such a level of presence and level a at such a level of presence and Oneness with each other and with the Oneness with each other and with the Oneness with each other and with the world itself being its own organism world itself being its own organism world itself being its own organism right that they could just wear a piece right that they could just wear a piece right that they could just wear a piece of of cloth they didn't need to impose their cloth they didn't need to impose their cloth they didn't need to impose their will in a physical sense with ships and will in a physical sense with ships and will in a physical sense with ships and bombs and yada yada y yada that's not to bombs and yada yada y yada that's not to bombs and yada yada y yada that's not to say that we don't need any of that say that we don't need any of that say that we don't need any of that because we do I mean I love the life because we do I mean I love the life because we do I mean I love the life that I live because of all I have power that I live because of all I have power that I live because of all I have power and everything it's and everything it's and everything it's however I just think

47:00however I just think however I just think that they that they that they had y had y had y Yang both are required and neither is Yang both are required and neither is Yang both are required and neither is inferior nor Superior yeah we have just inferior nor Superior yeah we have just inferior nor Superior yeah we have just lost and forgotten I think a lot of lost and forgotten I think a lot of lost and forgotten I think a lot of knowledge about being and being one with knowledge about being and being one with knowledge about being and being one with each other and with the world yeah yeah each other and with the world yeah yeah each other and with the world yeah yeah well look literally two two few things well look literally two two few things well look literally two two few things one with our pod squad this morning down one with our pod squad this morning down one with our pod squad this morning down at North cotso uh one of the fellows at North cotso uh one of the fellows at North cotso uh one of the fellows literally one of the may' be 75 80 I literally one of the may' be 75 80 I literally one of the may' be 75 80 I don't know what his age was I said get a don't know what his age was I said get a don't know what his age was I said get a to him every morning in the change rooms to him every morning in the change rooms to him every morning in the change rooms and every morning at the coffee shop and and every morning at the coffee shop and and every morning at the coffee shop and his partner said to me Monday morning his partner said to me Monday morning his partner said to me Monday morning Lee John's passed away he died at the Lee John's passed away he died at the Lee John's passed away he died at the weekend I went what the hell how can weekend I went what the hell how can weekend I went what the hell how can that be but today we had probably 60 or that be but today we had probably 60 or that be but today we had probably 60 or 100 people at the coffee shop music 100 people at the coffee shop music 100 people at the coffee shop music playing um we saying some speeches uh playing um we saying some speeches uh playing um we saying some speeches uh we're all laughing and crying together we're all laughing and crying together we're all laughing and crying together we talk about the village The Village we talk about the village The Village we talk about the village The Village uh and and and in many ways those uh and and and in many ways those uh and and and in many ways those traditional societies had that strong

48:00traditional societies had that strong traditional societies had that strong interconnection as a village that we're interconnection as a village that we're interconnection as a village that we're all going through this journey together all going through this journey together all going through this journey together there's a a sense of love and connection there's a a sense of love and connection there's a a sense of love and connection and here we are in and here we are in and here we are in 2025 the the village that we've created 2025 the the village that we've created 2025 the the village that we've created down there at North cot I know this down there at North cot I know this down there at North cot I know this happens all around Australia but at the happens all around Australia but at the happens all around Australia but at the same time another guy as part of the same time another guy as part of the same time another guy as part of the village had set up a Men's Choir group village had set up a Men's Choir group village had set up a Men's Choir group and he said I couldn't believe it but and he said I couldn't believe it but and he said I couldn't believe it but got all these people particularly in the got all these people particularly in the got all these people particularly in the western suburbs guys guys in particular western suburbs guys guys in particular western suburbs guys guys in particular who are in their 60s and 70s so they've who are in their 60s and 70s so they've who are in their 60s and 70s so they've retired they've gone through their retired they've gone through their retired they've gone through their career they've got all this money career they've got all this money career they've got all this money they're they're rich on the outside but they're they're rich on the outside but they're they're rich on the outside but very poor and sad on the inside and I very poor and sad on the inside and I very poor and sad on the inside and I know some of them myself and some of know some of them myself and some of know some of them myself and some of them for the first time in their life them for the first time in their life them for the first time in their life because I've been so busy accumulating because I've been so busy accumulating because I've been so busy accumulating and being busy with their careers it's and being busy with their careers it's and being busy with their careers it's the first time they've actually looked the first time they've actually looked the first time they've actually looked on the inside and said my god without on the inside and said my god without on the inside and said my god without work who am I and where do I find work who am I and where do I find work who am I and where do I find happiness or Joy or even I've never even happiness or Joy or even I've never even happiness or Joy or even I've never even thought of happiness and joy whereas the

49:00thought of happiness and joy whereas the thought of happiness and joy whereas the traditional societies often so much traditional societies often so much traditional societies often so much again if I look back into the babag Gita again if I look back into the babag Gita again if I look back into the babag Gita and some of the Indian texts so much of and some of the Indian texts so much of and some of the Indian texts so much of it is about the inner world and and as it is about the inner world and and as it is about the inner world and and as you say even within the within the cold you say even within the within the cold you say even within the within the cold bath that that that gap between stimulus bath that that that gap between stimulus bath that that that gap between stimulus and response your ability as Buddhism and response your ability as Buddhism and response your ability as Buddhism managing the Mind managing the inner managing the Mind managing the inner managing the Mind managing the inner world that that's where the happiness is world that that's where the happiness is world that that's where the happiness is you can live in the biggest gold tower you can live in the biggest gold tower you can live in the biggest gold tower in the world but that won't necessarily in the world but that won't necessarily in the world but that won't necessarily make you happy I mean it be nice to do make you happy I mean it be nice to do make you happy I mean it be nice to do but you still need to do this inner work but you still need to do this inner work but you still need to do this inner work that you're talking about and by the way that you're talking about and by the way that you're talking about and by the way I see at one stage you were introducing I see at one stage you were introducing I see at one stage you were introducing people to some breath work you ran uh people to some breath work you ran uh people to some breath work you ran uh you got some guy in in recent times tell you got some guy in in recent times tell you got some guy in in recent times tell me a bit about that some of the inner me a bit about that some of the inner me a bit about that some of the inner World things that you either you've done World things that you either you've done World things that you either you've done which you've done with the iasa thing which you've done with the iasa thing which you've done with the iasa thing and even this breath work thing and some and even this breath work thing and some and even this breath work thing and some of the meditation things that either of the meditation things that either of the meditation things that either you've done or the people you surround you've done or the people you surround you've done or the people you surround yourself with that you are doing some yourself with that you are doing some yourself with that you are doing some teaching in that area yeah um first I'm teaching in that area yeah um first I'm teaching in that area yeah um first I'm sorry about your friend that's thank you sorry about your friend that's thank you sorry about your friend that's thank you mate yeah yeah it was a sh yeah yeah

50:00mate yeah yeah it was a sh yeah yeah mate yeah yeah it was a sh yeah yeah absolutely um I I I I think that being open to any different think that being open to any different think that being open to any different experience is a really good thing and so experience is a really good thing and so experience is a really good thing and so the more sort of out there that it is the more sort of out there that it is the more sort of out there that it is for me the more interested I in it and I for me the more interested I in it and I for me the more interested I in it and I don't necessarily mean conspiratorial or don't necessarily mean conspiratorial or don't necessarily mean conspiratorial or anything like that more just from an anything like that more just from an anything like that more just from an interpersonal relationship with my self interpersonal relationship with my self interpersonal relationship with my self perspective and so that leads into perspective and so that leads into perspective and so that leads into things like meditation uh breath work things like meditation uh breath work things like meditation uh breath work plant-based medicine plant-based medicine plant-based medicine um and even exercise to be completely um and even exercise to be completely um and even exercise to be completely honest with you ice bars as well right honest with you ice bars as well right honest with you ice bars as well right is a form of meditation that you end up is a form of meditation that you end up is a form of meditation that you end up doing in the Ice Bar yes you do and so I doing in the Ice Bar yes you do and so I doing in the Ice Bar yes you do and so I had an experience with Steve from 9 the had an experience with Steve from 9 the had an experience with Steve from 9 the breath work oh sorry from power of breath work oh sorry from power of breath work oh sorry from power of breath he does it form of breath work

51:00breath he does it form of breath work breath he does it form of breath work called 9 breath work and truthfully was called 9 breath work and truthfully was called 9 breath work and truthfully was absolutely transformational for me as a absolutely transformational for me as a absolutely transformational for me as a person and after that experience I felt person and after that experience I felt person and after that experience I felt an overwhelming urge to want to share it an overwhelming urge to want to share it an overwhelming urge to want to share it so uh we put on a night uh on Tuesday so uh we put on a night uh on Tuesday so uh we put on a night uh on Tuesday night where uh as Rec lab we paid for 15 night where uh as Rec lab we paid for 15 night where uh as Rec lab we paid for 15 people to come and experience the 90 so people to come and experience the 90 so people to come and experience the 90 so absolutely free and the idea was there absolutely free and the idea was there absolutely free and the idea was there would be five members uh five followers would be five members uh five followers would be five members uh five followers and then five people in need those and then five people in need those and then five people in need those people in need had to be nominated by a people in need had to be nominated by a people in need had to be nominated by a member and it was a way to be able to member and it was a way to be able to member and it was a way to be able to share that experience because of the share that experience because of the share that experience because of the profound effect that it had on me and I profound effect that it had on me and I profound effect that it had on me and I think those things are really important think those things are really important think those things are really important because when you're taken out of um what because when you're taken out of um what because when you're taken out of um what you consider to be normal right you consider to be normal right you consider to be normal right like I mean my ex-girlfriend was a like I mean my ex-girlfriend was a like I mean my ex-girlfriend was a clinical psychologist and she's an clinical psychologist and she's an clinical psychologist and she's an absolutely beautiful soul um I cannot absolutely beautiful soul um I cannot absolutely beautiful soul um I cannot speak highly up speak highly up speak highly up enough you go and see a psychologist and

52:00enough you go and see a psychologist and enough you go and see a psychologist and part of you at least in the people that part of you at least in the people that part of you at least in the people that I have seen go well I'm seeing a I have seen go well I'm seeing a I have seen go well I'm seeing a psychologist so I'm working through it psychologist so I'm working through it psychologist so I'm working through it and it's it's almost a cop out because and it's it's almost a cop out because and it's it's almost a cop out because it's accepted that you can go and see a it's accepted that you can go and see a it's accepted that you can go and see a psychologist and if you're doing that psychologist and if you're doing that psychologist and if you're doing that you must be doing something good for you must be doing something good for you must be doing something good for yourself and but it just sort of stops yourself and but it just sort of stops yourself and but it just sort of stops right and at least what I've seen of right and at least what I've seen of right and at least what I've seen of them is they just go around and around them is they just go around and around them is they just go around and around around in around in around in circles when someone chooses to do circles when someone chooses to do circles when someone chooses to do something like a breath work or a something like a breath work or a something like a breath work or a plant-based medicine ceremony or any plant-based medicine ceremony or any plant-based medicine ceremony or any form of deep form of deep form of deep meditation because they're so far out of meditation because they're so far out of meditation because they're so far out of their comfort zone once it starts to their comfort zone once it starts to their comfort zone once it starts to have a little tiny effect during the have a little tiny effect during the have a little tiny effect during the experience it it builds in them because experience it it builds in them because experience it it builds in them because it's unexpected that they can be feeling it's unexpected that they can be feeling it's unexpected that they can be feeling something like that and they don't something like that and they don't something like that and they don't realize that they're breaking things realize that they're breaking things realize that they're breaking things down subconsciously and energetically down subconsciously and energetically down subconsciously and energetically and so we held the here and and so we held the here and and so we held the here and M I've got text messages from people

53:00M I've got text messages from people M I've got text messages from people saying that saying that saying that um it one guy said was an experience he um it one guy said was an experience he um it one guy said was an experience he won't ever forget um a wife of a very won't ever forget um a wife of a very won't ever forget um a wife of a very good friend of mine who came um said good friend of mine who came um said good friend of mine who came um said that it had one of the most profoundest that it had one of the most profoundest that it had one of the most profoundest impacts on her life people were crying impacts on her life people were crying impacts on her life people were crying uh screaming but in a in a good way uh screaming but in a in a good way uh screaming but in a in a good way um and then everybody hugs like like um and then everybody hugs like like um and then everybody hugs like like connection it's it's just you go on connection it's it's just you go on connection it's it's just you go on this it's like a a micro lonely road this it's like a a micro lonely road this it's like a a micro lonely road where you put these headphones on you where you put these headphones on you where you put these headphones on you lay there you you walk your path in this lay there you you walk your path in this lay there you you walk your path in this space and then once the experience is space and then once the experience is space and then once the experience is finished we then come back together and finished we then come back together and finished we then come back together and I think that that's a really beautiful I think that that's a really beautiful I think that that's a really beautiful thing that thing that thing that that type of healing or modality allows

54:00that type of healing or modality allows that type of healing or modality allows us to experience as us to experience as us to experience as people and like there were guys people and like there were guys people and like there were guys typically in the group that were really typically in the group that were really typically in the group that were really skeptical that have messaged me days skeptical that have messaged me days skeptical that have messaged me days later not that I'm getting into it but later not that I'm getting into it but later not that I'm getting into it but want to go again want to do it again want to go again want to do it again want to go again want to do it again fantastic it's just it's huge it's huge fantastic it's just it's huge it's huge fantastic it's just it's huge it's huge the inner world the inner the inner world the inner the inner world the inner Journey right Journey right Journey right I what else is there like like like if I what else is there like like like if I what else is there like like like if you if you actually think you if you actually think you if you actually think about our about our about our existence it's it's essentially nothing existence it's it's essentially nothing existence it's it's essentially nothing because there's n billion other because there's n billion other because there's n billion other existences happening but we create existences happening but we create existences happening but we create volcanoes and earthquakes and all these volcanoes and earthquakes and all these volcanoes and earthquakes and all these things in our own worlds things in our own worlds things in our own worlds right but we are creating it and it's in right but we are creating it and it's in right but we are creating it and it's in our own world and so it's like if what our own world and so it's like if what our own world and so it's like if what we want in our perceived reality that we we want in our perceived reality that we we want in our perceived reality that we can see touch feel and smell to be as

55:00can see touch feel and smell to be as can see touch feel and smell to be as comfortable as comfortable as comfortable as possible to get that comfort you kind of possible to get that comfort you kind of possible to get that comfort you kind of have to go through the discomfort it's have to go through the discomfort it's have to go through the discomfort it's no different than an ice bath and yes no different than an ice bath and yes no different than an ice bath and yes I'm a guy that sells ice baths or ice I'm a guy that sells ice baths or ice I'm a guy that sells ice baths or ice bath tickets so people probably going to bath tickets so people probably going to bath tickets so people probably going to cringe at this but it's hard you have to cringe at this but it's hard you have to cringe at this but it's hard you have to do the hard thing yeah in a ice bath do the hard thing yeah in a ice bath do the hard thing yeah in a ice bath it's choosing to get in the water it's it's choosing to get in the water it's it's choosing to get in the water it's not actually the first five seconds in not actually the first five seconds in not actually the first five seconds in the water the hardest part is is is the water the hardest part is is is the water the hardest part is is is stepping over and your foot just touches stepping over and your foot just touches stepping over and your foot just touches it and you're it and you're it and you're like right that's the hard part then like right that's the hard part then like right that's the hard part then once you're in you just you have to yes once you're in you just you have to yes once you're in you just you have to yes you have to do the work and keep you have to do the work and keep you have to do the work and keep yourself in there but then when you get yourself in there but then when you get yourself in there but then when you get out like I kid you not like I've been out like I kid you not like I've been out like I kid you not like I've been doing ice barast now for a little doing ice barast now for a little doing ice barast now for a little while I get here every morning I look at while I get here every morning I look at while I get here every morning I look at the water and I go why the F would end the water and I go why the F would end the water and I go why the F would end anybody pay me to do this yes right at 6 anybody pay me to do this yes right at 6 anybody pay me to do this yes right at 6 o00 I liter I ask myself that I get in I

56:00o00 I liter I ask myself that I get in I o00 I liter I ask myself that I get in I get out I'm like that is why this this get out I'm like that is why this this get out I'm like that is why this this feeling is why people pay me yes yes and feeling is why people pay me yes yes and feeling is why people pay me yes yes and so then I I I I take that so then I I I I take that so then I I I I take that back um to the experiences and all of back um to the experiences and all of back um to the experiences and all of that sort of thing the inner world to that sort of thing the inner world to that sort of thing the inner world to have a really comfortable outer world have a really comfortable outer world have a really comfortable outer world you kind of have to do the uncomfortable you kind of have to do the uncomfortable you kind of have to do the uncomfortable work on the inside and it's taking me so work on the inside and it's taking me so work on the inside and it's taking me so long to get there we think it's having a long to get there we think it's having a long to get there we think it's having a better car we think it's having a better better car we think it's having a better better car we think it's having a better house we all of these house we all of these house we all of these things and they're all they're actually things and they're all they're actually things and they're all they're actually just just just byproducts because there is no point byproducts because there is no point byproducts because there is no point like you said in like you said in like you said in having the big house in North having the big house in North having the big house in North C if you wake up with no purpose yeah C if you wake up with no purpose yeah C if you wake up with no purpose yeah like like your your friends that go and like like your your friends that go and like like your your friends that go and join the choir it's not about

57:00join the choir it's not about join the choir it's not about singing It's about purpose it's about singing It's about purpose it's about singing It's about purpose it's about Community it's about a sense of Community it's about a sense of Community it's about a sense of belonging it's like these are intrinsic belonging it's like these are intrinsic belonging it's like these are intrinsic things that can't be measured by any things that can't be measured by any things that can't be measured by any data set like we don't go oh data set like we don't go oh data set like we don't go oh Hal out of one to 10 how are you feeling Hal out of one to 10 how are you feeling Hal out of one to 10 how are you feeling you belong today like they're you belong today like they're you belong today like they're immeasurables yeah everybody's graph is immeasurables yeah everybody's graph is immeasurables yeah everybody's graph is very different yeah but there things very different yeah but there things very different yeah but there things that matter and that matter and that matter and that happens within us and so circling that happens within us and so circling that happens within us and so circling back the breath work the meditation the back the breath work the meditation the back the breath work the meditation the services that we're going to be offering services that we're going to be offering services that we're going to be offering on a more regular basis so we're going on a more regular basis so we're going on a more regular basis so we're going to be doing nights the ND breath work is to be doing nights the ND breath work is to be doing nights the ND breath work is going to become a monthly thing going to become a monthly thing going to become a monthly thing fantastic to come and do it yeah and fantastic to come and do it yeah and fantastic to come and do it yeah and hopefully uh we're able to either pay or hopefully uh we're able to either pay or hopefully uh we're able to either pay or at least subsidize the price of at least subsidize the price of at least subsidize the price of it just so you can get an experience it it just so you can get an experience it it just so you can get an experience it may just crack your open subconsciously may just crack your open subconsciously may just crack your open subconsciously just enough for you to go huh you know

58:00just enough for you to go huh you know just enough for you to go huh you know what really when I'm picking up my phone what really when I'm picking up my phone what really when I'm picking up my phone and scrolling through Instagram the and scrolling through Instagram the and scrolling through Instagram the thing that I'm avoiding is actually this thing that I'm avoiding is actually this thing that I'm avoiding is actually this conversation with my wife just just that conversation with my wife just just that conversation with my wife just just that yeah and then the flow the ripple effect yeah and then the flow the ripple effect yeah and then the flow the ripple effect of that and then you leading a better of that and then you leading a better of that and then you leading a better life yeah just from that life yeah just from that life yeah just from that one crack in the safe yeah it's a waking one crack in the safe yeah it's a waking one crack in the safe yeah it's a waking up a light going on it's an elevation of up a light going on it's an elevation of up a light going on it's an elevation of consciousness I'm now more aware of consciousness I'm now more aware of consciousness I'm now more aware of you know that that behavior is really you know that that behavior is really you know that that behavior is really it's another form of numbing and dumbing it's another form of numbing and dumbing it's another form of numbing and dumbing I don't have to actually deal with or I don't have to actually deal with or I don't have to actually deal with or connect with I'm pretending that I'm connect with I'm pretending that I'm connect with I'm pretending that I'm busy but in fact it's a way of not busy but in fact it's a way of not busy but in fact it's a way of not actually connecting with my wife or the actually connecting with my wife or the actually connecting with my wife or the people around me NLP causes a downtime people around me NLP causes a downtime people around me NLP causes a downtime instead of being uptime where I'm instead of being uptime where I'm instead of being uptime where I'm present with the person I go into my own present with the person I go into my own present with the person I go into my own inner world into downtime and or the inner world into downtime and or the inner world into downtime and or the phone becomes a way of of disconnecting phone becomes a way of of disconnecting phone becomes a way of of disconnecting Pete I'm conscious of your time mate I Pete I'm conscious of your time mate I Pete I'm conscious of your time mate I don't want to take you forever I've got don't want to take you forever I've got don't want to take you forever I've got so much to to ask let me just do a so much to to ask let me just do a so much to to ask let me just do a couple of questions one what does couple of questions one what does couple of questions one what does spirituality we I don't often ask this

59:00spirituality we I don't often ask this spirituality we I don't often ask this I've got it written there as a question I've got it written there as a question I've got it written there as a question but we talked about energetics and and but we talked about energetics and and but we talked about energetics and and obviously as you say your mom and obviously as you say your mom and obviously as you say your mom and service and other things but if I say to service and other things but if I say to service and other things but if I say to you what does spirituality mean to you you what does spirituality mean to you you what does spirituality mean to you and and in your life it means to me that being conscious that we are just all being conscious that we are just all connected and so that in every interaction if I aim to hurt you Le I'm interaction if I aim to hurt you Le I'm essentially hurting essentially hurting essentially hurting myself uh it means spirituality to me myself uh it means spirituality to me myself uh it means spirituality to me means means means that every answer I need is within that every answer I need is within that every answer I need is within me uh every characteristic that I need me uh every characteristic that I need me uh every characteristic that I need to embody is already Within Me but to embody is already Within Me but to embody is already Within Me but within me I believe is also up here it's

1:00within me I believe is also up here it's within me I believe is also up here it's ethereal and it's there for us to draw ethereal and it's there for us to draw ethereal and it's there for us to draw upon and bring into our present moment upon and bring into our present moment upon and bring into our present moment like all of the tools are there like all of the tools are there like all of the tools are there um yeah that's not a great answer but um yeah that's not a great answer but um yeah that's not a great answer but that's what no that's good no no no I that's what no that's good no no no I that's what no that's good no no no I mean you when you say I'm connected to mean you when you say I'm connected to mean you when you say I'm connected to something bigger whether it be people something bigger whether it be people something bigger whether it be people say I'm connected to the energetics of say I'm connected to the energetics of say I'm connected to the energetics of the universe I'm connected to God I'm the universe I'm connected to God I'm the universe I'm connected to God I'm connected to Krishna I mean essentially connected to Krishna I mean essentially connected to Krishna I mean essentially in the bagita they still refer to God as in the bagita they still refer to God as in the bagita they still refer to God as in as in something bigger that that that in as in something bigger that that that in as in something bigger that that that really Universal energy in in the AUD really Universal energy in in the AUD really Universal energy in in the AUD world we would think it's it's an world we would think it's it's an world we would think it's it's an energetic of love as the connecting the energetic of love as the connecting the energetic of love as the connecting the connecting Factor um the other question connecting Factor um the other question connecting Factor um the other question I I wanted to ask you was so if you were I I wanted to ask you was so if you were I I wanted to ask you was so if you were going to give three tips to the going to give three tips to the going to give three tips to the 13-year-old Pete carbon what three tips 13-year-old Pete carbon what three tips 13-year-old Pete carbon what three tips would you give him in terms of helping would you give him in terms of helping would you give him in terms of helping him with life to to to be the best he him with life to to to be the best he him with life to to to be the best he could be could be could be I'll probably go back and tell myself I'll probably go back and tell myself I'll probably go back and tell myself that every decision I

1:01that every decision I that every decision I make is the right decision so stop make is the right decision so stop make is the right decision so stop roaring about whether it's the right roaring about whether it's the right roaring about whether it's the right decision and just make the decision uh decision and just make the decision uh decision and just make the decision uh that would be that would be that would be one one one um two would um two would um two would be that doing something be that doing something be that doing something great isn't about conquering the world great isn't about conquering the world great isn't about conquering the world any more than about the impact you have any more than about the impact you have any more than about the impact you have on someone on someone on someone else and so greatness we often think is else and so greatness we often think is else and so greatness we often think is this Alexander the Great or you know this Alexander the Great or you know this Alexander the Great or you know it's it's up here it's winning an NL it's it's up here it's winning an NL it's it's up here it's winning an NL Premier ship and Y and it Premier ship and Y and it Premier ship and Y and it is but I would tell myself that is but I would tell myself that is but I would tell myself that greatness greatness greatness is the lady at the supermarket who is is the lady at the supermarket who is is the lady at the supermarket who is hating her job has five hours left in hating her job has five hours left in hating her job has five hours left in her shift looks miserable and you're her shift looks miserable and you're her shift looks miserable and you're like like like hey who you

1:02hey who you hey who you say those things are greatness and the say those things are greatness and the say those things are greatness and the more of those that you can do the better more of those that you can do the better more of those that you can do the better your life is going to be um and three uh your life is going to be um and three uh your life is going to be um and three uh this one comes from my dad uh who I this one comes from my dad uh who I this one comes from my dad uh who I respect and love a lot is respect and love a lot is respect and love a lot is that uh if you treat everyone like their that uh if you treat everyone like their that uh if you treat everyone like their an old friend you'll have plenty of old an old friend you'll have plenty of old an old friend you'll have plenty of old friends oh mate we I can see your mom friends oh mate we I can see your mom friends oh mate we I can see your mom and dad have had a profound impact on and dad have had a profound impact on and dad have had a profound impact on you You' mentioned your dad a number of you You' mentioned your dad a number of you You' mentioned your dad a number of times now from the Friday morning going times now from the Friday morning going times now from the Friday morning going down the beach to a whole range of other down the beach to a whole range of other down the beach to a whole range of other other other things that Dad has has told other other things that Dad has has told other other things that Dad has has told you mate how fantastic is that mate you mate how fantastic is that mate you mate how fantastic is that mate what's the future look like for rec lab what's the future look like for rec lab what's the future look like for rec lab and the future look like for Pete cobon and the future look like for Pete cobon and the future look like for Pete cobon if we're going to Future Pace you and if we're going to Future Pace you and if we're going to Future Pace you and Rec laab over the next three five 10 Rec laab over the next three five 10 Rec laab over the next three five 10 years and Beyond what if I'm going to years and Beyond what if I'm going to years and Beyond what if I'm going to play that movie what does that movie play that movie what does that movie play that movie what does that movie look like uh if I was to as quickly as look like uh if I was to as quickly as look like uh if I was to as quickly as possible um over the next two years possible um over the next two years possible um over the next two years we'll have another two locations so the we'll have another two locations so the we'll have another two locations so the end of this year we'll have a second uh

1:03end of this year we'll have a second uh end of this year we'll have a second uh the end of next year we'll have a the end of next year we'll have a the end of next year we'll have a third uh what we decide and I say we third uh what we decide and I say we third uh what we decide and I say we because it's a team it's actually it's a because it's a team it's actually it's a because it's a team it's actually it's a community it's it's the people that work community it's it's the people that work community it's it's the people that work with us um what we decide to do once with us um what we decide to do once with us um what we decide to do once we've got three uh whether we decide to we've got three uh whether we decide to we've got three uh whether we decide to franchise the business or what franchise the business or what franchise the business or what um I'm just going to let um I'm just going to let um I'm just going to let that I want to see how I feel at that that I want to see how I feel at that that I want to see how I feel at that point so I'm actually the goal is just point so I'm actually the goal is just point so I'm actually the goal is just to get there over the next three years to get there over the next three years to get there over the next three years uh obviously i' would like to meet a uh obviously i' would like to meet a uh obviously i' would like to meet a girl get married have kids settle down girl get married have kids settle down girl get married have kids settle down if you want you can marry look at me if you want you can marry look at me if you want you can marry look at me yeah yeah yeah yeah and have these have these kids that yeah and have these have these kids that yeah and have these have these kids that you got the story for you got the story for you got the story for mate they exist in the they exist in the mate they exist in the they exist in the mate they exist in the they exist in the universe they just have to exist at some universe they just have to exist at some universe they just have to exist at some point in the physical world that's come point in the physical world that's come point in the physical world that's come here yeah um but the thing that I'm here yeah um but the thing that I'm here yeah um but the thing that I'm aiming for overall uh and the people aiming for overall uh and the people aiming for overall uh and the people that I tell this actually get not shake

1:04that I tell this actually get not shake that I tell this actually get not shake their heads but um I have an image in my their heads but um I have an image in my their heads but um I have an image in my mind Lee of a property that has a hill mind Lee of a property that has a hill mind Lee of a property that has a hill that slopes down to the ocean so Beach that slopes down to the ocean so Beach that slopes down to the ocean so Beach it rises up and it's I don't know maybe it rises up and it's I don't know maybe it rises up and it's I don't know maybe three five three five three five acres and I have a little cottage a acres and I have a little cottage a acres and I have a little cottage a little Beach Shack sitting there and I little Beach Shack sitting there and I little Beach Shack sitting there and I I'm sitting on the porch of this little I'm sitting on the porch of this little I'm sitting on the porch of this little shark it's about 4: 4:30 in the shark it's about 4: 4:30 in the shark it's about 4: 4:30 in the afternoon I have a cup of tea a little afternoon I have a cup of tea a little afternoon I have a cup of tea a little bit of milk in it for some reason I have bit of milk in it for some reason I have bit of milk in it for some reason I have some rockmelon and some Peach on a some rockmelon and some Peach on a some rockmelon and some Peach on a little plate next to me and uh I pick up little plate next to me and uh I pick up little plate next to me and uh I pick up a piece of rockmelon I've got the cup in a piece of rockmelon I've got the cup in a piece of rockmelon I've got the cup in my hand and I'm watching the ocean and in that moment I want ocean and in that moment I want to um feel to um feel to um feel authentically that the people that I met authentically that the people that I met authentically that the people that I met along the way to getting to that

1:05along the way to getting to that along the way to getting to that point are in their point are in their point are in their lives and they go wonder what Pete's up lives and they go wonder what Pete's up lives and they go wonder what Pete's up to just in an endearing to just in an endearing to just in an endearing way and way and way and so as much as right now there's a lot of so as much as right now there's a lot of so as much as right now there's a lot of ambition and drive and there is a ambition and drive and there is a ambition and drive and there is a commercial reality to the growth of this commercial reality to the growth of this commercial reality to the growth of this business business business I want to get there and there means that I want to get there and there means that I want to get there and there means that you've done right by people you've you've done right by people you've you've done right by people you've obviously made the money but it's simple obviously made the money but it's simple obviously made the money but it's simple and my impact and my impact and my impact has been good yeah right Fantastic look has been good yeah right Fantastic look has been good yeah right Fantastic look I'm just going to read some of my notes I'm just going to read some of my notes I'm just going to read some of my notes because I've been taking notes as you've because I've been taking notes as you've because I've been taking notes as you've been going through here um uh what a been going through here um uh what a been going through here um uh what a journey you've been on as you say four journey you've been on as you say four journey you've been on as you say four or five entrepreneurial uh uh Endeavors or five entrepreneurial uh uh Endeavors or five entrepreneurial uh uh Endeavors um that science teacher certainly um that science teacher certainly um that science teacher certainly triggered you to go down this path at triggered you to go down this path at triggered you to go down this path at some point between the science teacher some point between the science teacher some point between the science teacher in year 10 and the the shaman in the

1:06in year 10 and the the shaman in the in year 10 and the the shaman in the iosca You' you've had influences along iosca You' you've had influences along iosca You' you've had influences along the way again we haven't talked about the way again we haven't talked about the way again we haven't talked about mentors or a range of things I think we mentors or a range of things I think we mentors or a range of things I think we should do another one of these at some should do another one of these at some should do another one of these at some point Pete just to continue with the the point Pete just to continue with the the point Pete just to continue with the the mapping of the journey that we talked mapping of the journey that we talked mapping of the journey that we talked about particularly the ice bath the about particularly the ice bath the about particularly the ice bath the mental health uh the the regulating of mental health uh the the regulating of mental health uh the the regulating of the the emotional state and and the the emotional state and and the the emotional state and and particularly as you say that that that particularly as you say that that that particularly as you say that that that going from hot to cold the hot to cold going from hot to cold the hot to cold going from hot to cold the hot to cold Plunge and how that really came about Plunge and how that really came about Plunge and how that really came about out of the the the Peru trip as well I out of the the the Peru trip as well I out of the the the Peru trip as well I love the fact you talk about the True love the fact you talk about the True love the fact you talk about the True Believers down at City Beach I'm pretty Believers down at City Beach I'm pretty Believers down at City Beach I'm pretty certain some of my mates are those those certain some of my mates are those those certain some of my mates are those those true beliers Greg true and a whole range true beliers Greg true and a whole range true beliers Greg true and a whole range of others dick and the boys that are all of others dick and the boys that are all of others dick and the boys that are all part of the city rocks group that are part of the city rocks group that are part of the city rocks group that are down there at city beach every morning down there at city beach every morning down there at city beach every morning Speedos yeah yeah yeah the red Speedos Speedos yeah yeah yeah the red Speedos Speedos yeah yeah yeah the red Speedos yeah they're all my mates um we talked yeah they're all my mates um we talked yeah they're all my mates um we talked about Framing and pre Framing and as you about Framing and pre Framing and as you about Framing and pre Framing and as you say by setting the expectations how that say by setting the expectations how that say by setting the expectations how that really does work so i' as I'd recommend really does work so i' as I'd recommend really does work so i' as I'd recommend that as part of the process um because that as part of the process um because that as part of the process um because that will help people then uh evolve and

1:07that will help people then uh evolve and that will help people then uh evolve and handle that the joys of the ice bath I'm handle that the joys of the ice bath I'm handle that the joys of the ice bath I'm sure we could delve even further into sure we could delve even further into sure we could delve even further into what is going on where people release so what is going on where people release so what is going on where people release so much and discover so much about much and discover so much about much and discover so much about themselves in the ice bath that they themselves in the ice bath that they themselves in the ice bath that they actually cry and as you say at that actually cry and as you say at that actually cry and as you say at that point they're so vulnerable um and and point they're so vulnerable um and and point they're so vulnerable um and and the hug the hug factor I literally come the hug the hug factor I literally come the hug the hug factor I literally come across some data again the other day the across some data again the other day the across some data again the other day the power and the value of a hug I gave power and the value of a hug I gave power and the value of a hug I gave people plenty of hugs this morning people plenty of hugs this morning people plenty of hugs this morning morning the story that you want to tell morning the story that you want to tell morning the story that you want to tell your kids being such a driving force and your kids being such a driving force and your kids being such a driving force and the role that both Mom and Dad have the role that both Mom and Dad have the role that both Mom and Dad have played in the evolution of P Carboni um played in the evolution of P Carboni um played in the evolution of P Carboni um breaking the ice indeed mate breaking breaking the ice indeed mate breaking breaking the ice indeed mate breaking the ice I love that I think there's the ice I love that I think there's the ice I love that I think there's there's a t-shirt there at minimum and there's a t-shirt there at minimum and there's a t-shirt there at minimum and your point from Muhammad Ali service to your point from Muhammad Ali service to your point from Muhammad Ali service to others is the rent we pay that's just others is the rent we pay that's just others is the rent we pay that's just beautiful mate your cup gets filled by beautiful mate your cup gets filled by beautiful mate your cup gets filled by others um and the fact that you've done others um and the fact that you've done others um and the fact that you've done gone to that detail of the energetic gone to that detail of the energetic gone to that detail of the energetic cleanup and the regular energetic cleanup and the regular energetic cleanup and the regular energetic cleanup which of course you're doing cleanup which of course you're doing cleanup which of course you're doing that energetically for the physical that energetically for the physical that energetically for the physical environment what we're talking about is

1:08environment what we're talking about is environment what we're talking about is energetic cleanup internally and the energetic cleanup internally and the energetic cleanup internally and the power of that we through breathing power of that we through breathing power of that we through breathing meditation the ice bath saging it down meditation the ice bath saging it down meditation the ice bath saging it down I've got to dig up more about that but I've got to dig up more about that but I've got to dig up more about that but Pete carbon there's no doubt you are a Pete carbon there's no doubt you are a Pete carbon there's no doubt you are a Healer mate there's no doubt you're a Healer mate there's no doubt you're a Healer mate there's no doubt you're a Healer and you're doing great work I Healer and you're doing great work I Healer and you're doing great work I know you you're doing great work because know you you're doing great work because know you you're doing great work because you're making impact on me and Fred and you're making impact on me and Fred and you're making impact on me and Fred and all all the others mate is there all all the others mate is there all all the others mate is there anything we haven't covered you'd like anything we haven't covered you'd like anything we haven't covered you'd like to cover in this podcast before we move to cover in this podcast before we move to cover in this podcast before we move into the home straight oh look I I ramble a lot guys so oh look I I ramble a lot guys so probably I wouldn't leave it at that um probably I wouldn't leave it at that um probably I wouldn't leave it at that um I I I appreciate the opportunity Le it's I I I appreciate the opportunity Le it's I I I appreciate the opportunity Le it's it's nice I'm just a guy doing a thing it's nice I'm just a guy doing a thing it's nice I'm just a guy doing a thing mate I I so for me to even be asking on mate I I so for me to even be asking on mate I I so for me to even be asking on a pod I've done two recently and it's um a pod I've done two recently and it's um a pod I've done two recently and it's um this is my third I'm getting any better this is my third I'm getting any better this is my third I'm getting any better than it but it's I listen to podcasts so than it but it's I listen to podcasts so than it but it's I listen to podcasts so the idea of me even being on one is it's the idea of me even being on one is it's the idea of me even being on one is it's crazy so thank you mate well we say crazy so thank you mate well we say crazy so thank you mate well we say first of all everyone's got a story first of all everyone's got a story

1:09first of all everyone's got a story everyone's creating their own story everyone's creating their own story everyone's creating their own story which clearly you're a great example of which clearly you're a great example of which clearly you're a great example of that you're helping people discover that that you're helping people discover that that you're helping people discover that their stories can be even better and their stories can be even better and their stories can be even better and more expansive than they believed more expansive than they believed more expansive than they believed starting with as you say that first step starting with as you say that first step starting with as you say that first step into the into the ice water it's it's it into the into the ice water it's it's it into the into the ice water it's it's it goes Way Beyond it goes way beyond that goes Way Beyond it goes way beyond that goes Way Beyond it goes way beyond that as you said breaking the ice I mean the as you said breaking the ice I mean the as you said breaking the ice I mean the people I've spoken to they're so people I've spoken to they're so people I've spoken to they're so inspirational there was I remember there inspirational there was I remember there inspirational there was I remember there was a kickboxer in the in the uh SAA one was a kickboxer in the in the uh SAA one was a kickboxer in the in the uh SAA one day there's a triathlete there's a guy day there's a triathlete there's a guy day there's a triathlete there's a guy playing AFL football just complete playing AFL football just complete playing AFL football just complete strangers but you we all know we're all strangers but you we all know we're all strangers but you we all know we're all going through this journey together and going through this journey together and going through this journey together and not only the journey into the hot and not only the journey into the hot and not only the journey into the hot and cold but the Journey of trying to be as cold but the Journey of trying to be as cold but the Journey of trying to be as good as we possibly can be as healthy as good as we possibly can be as healthy as good as we possibly can be as healthy as we can be and I think that we people in we can be and I think that we people in we can be and I think that we people in there Inspire each other with by their there Inspire each other with by their there Inspire each other with by their very presence and the stories that they very presence and the stories that they very presence and the stories that they tell but M what I wanted to do what came tell but M what I wanted to do what came tell but M what I wanted to do what came to mind as you were talking there's a to mind as you were talking there's a to mind as you were talking there's a fantastic quote which you may have you fantastic quote which you may have you fantastic quote which you may have you may have scene here which uh we've used may have scene here which uh we've used may have scene here which uh we've used so many times it's just such a beauty so many times it's just such a beauty so many times it's just such a beauty but you seem to epitomize it it says

1:10but you seem to epitomize it it says but you seem to epitomize it it says until one is committed this is from wh until one is committed this is from wh until one is committed this is from wh Murray who was a an Explorer on um um Murray who was a an Explorer on um um Murray who was a an Explorer on um um Mount Everest and also Gerta until one Mount Everest and also Gerta until one Mount Everest and also Gerta until one is have you seen this quote before never is have you seen this quote before never is have you seen this quote before never okay listen to this until one is okay listen to this until one is okay listen to this until one is committed there is hesitancy the chance committed there is hesitancy the chance committed there is hesitancy the chance to draw back always in effectiveness to draw back always in effectiveness to draw back always in effectiveness concerning all acts of initiative and concerning all acts of initiative and concerning all acts of initiative and creation there is one I get emotional creation there is one I get emotional creation there is one I get emotional about this because it's such a truth about this because it's such a truth about this because it's such a truth there is one Elementary truth the there is one Elementary truth the there is one Elementary truth the ignorance of which kills countless ideas ignorance of which kills countless ideas ignorance of which kills countless ideas and Splendid plans and this is you that and Splendid plans and this is you that and Splendid plans and this is you that the moment one definitely commits the moment one definitely commits the moment one definitely commits oneself that the moment one definitely oneself that the moment one definitely oneself that the moment one definitely commits oneself then Providence moves to commits oneself then Providence moves to commits oneself then Providence moves to a whole stream of events issues from the a whole stream of events issues from the a whole stream of events issues from the decision I'm setting up recck lab I'm

1:11decision I'm setting up recck lab I'm decision I'm setting up recck lab I'm going to follow through with what the going to follow through with what the going to follow through with what the shaman told me a whole stream of events shaman told me a whole stream of events shaman told me a whole stream of events issues from that decision raising in issues from that decision raising in issues from that decision raising in one's favor all manner of unforeseen one's favor all manner of unforeseen one's favor all manner of unforeseen incidents meetings and material incidents meetings and material incidents meetings and material assistance things happen magic happens assistance things happen magic happens assistance things happen magic happens the universe conspires for you to be the universe conspires for you to be the universe conspires for you to be successful when you make that moment of successful when you make that moment of successful when you make that moment of commitment which you have done which no commitment which you have done which no commitment which you have done which no man could have dreamt would have come man could have dreamt would have come man could have dreamt would have come his way and then maray says I have his way and then maray says I have his way and then maray says I have leared a deep respect for one of gerta's leared a deep respect for one of gerta's leared a deep respect for one of gerta's couplets whatever you can do or dream couplets whatever you can do or dream couplets whatever you can do or dream you can begin it boldness has genius you can begin it boldness has genius you can begin it boldness has genius power and magic in it and Pete Carboni power and magic in it and Pete Carboni power and magic in it and Pete Carboni you have been bold you've done the 18h you have been bold you've done the 18h you have been bold you've done the 18h hour days you've slept on that floor hour days you've slept on that floor hour days you've slept on that floor you've held that story in your mind of you've held that story in your mind of you've held that story in your mind of telling your kids that story you've got

1:12telling your kids that story you've got telling your kids that story you've got the story in your mind of the beat Shack the story in your mind of the beat Shack the story in your mind of the beat Shack and that moment that will happen and that moment that will happen and that moment that will happen Providence itself will move too just as Providence itself will move too just as Providence itself will move too just as the Sharman planted that seed in your the Sharman planted that seed in your the Sharman planted that seed in your head he could see the head he could see the head he could see the universe that will all unfold because universe that will all unfold because universe that will all unfold because you have that in your head already you have that in your head already you have that in your head already continue to be bold my friend and I'll continue to be bold my friend and I'll continue to be bold my friend and I'll continue to come and experience the continue to come and experience the continue to come and experience the power and Magic that you're doing at Rec power and Magic that you're doing at Rec power and Magic that you're doing at Rec laab and Beyond thank you very much qu laab and Beyond thank you very much qu laab and Beyond thank you very much qu that I can leave with you please mate that I can leave with you please mate that I can leave with you please mate yes one that I actually just think yes one that I actually just think yes one that I actually just think because I love that and there is one because I love that and there is one because I love that and there is one that I had as my screen sa during the that I had as my screen sa during the that I had as my screen sa during the whole time that I built this place yep whole time that I built this place yep whole time that I built this place yep um and I think this quote makes me just um and I think this quote makes me just um and I think this quote makes me just as emotional as as I feel that one makes as emotional as as I feel that one makes as emotional as as I feel that one makes you would you be able to just on your you would you be able to just on your you would you be able to just on your screen there um do the man in the arena screen there um do the man in the arena screen there um do the man in the arena for me and I'll read it's a fantastic for me and I'll read it's a fantastic for me and I'll read it's a fantastic one isn't it I'll dig that up for you one isn't it I'll dig that up for you one isn't it I'll dig that up for you mate that's that's an incredible one I mate that's that's an incredible one I mate that's that's an incredible one I just I just feel that they they're just I just feel that they they're just I just feel that they they're talking about the exact same thing as talking about the exact same thing as talking about the exact same thing as what you yes described and it makes me

1:13what you yes described and it makes me what you yes described and it makes me just as emotional honest sorry I know just as emotional honest sorry I know just as emotional honest sorry I know everyone's probably no no no no mate everyone's probably no no no no mate everyone's probably no no no no mate right we say words words words the man right we say words words words the man right we say words words words the man in the arena is uh the man in the arena in the arena is uh the man in the arena in the arena is uh the man in the arena is okay I'm G to get you to read it is okay I'm G to get you to read it is okay I'm G to get you to read it out um okay Theodore Roosevelt 1910 see it comes up okay why don't you read see it comes up okay why don't you read it to me this one reminds me makes me it to me this one reminds me makes me it to me this one reminds me makes me think of my dad to be honest with you think of my dad to be honest with you think of my dad to be honest with you yes um he's not the critic who counts yes um he's not the critic who counts yes um he's not the critic who counts not the man who points out how the not the man who points out how the not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles or where the doer of strong man stumbles or where the doer of strong man stumbles or where the doer of Deeds could have done them better the Deeds could have done them better the Deeds could have done them better the credit belongs to the man who's actually credit belongs to the man who's actually credit belongs to the man who's actually in the arena whose face is marred by in the arena whose face is marred by in the arena whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood who strives dust and sweat and blood who strives dust and sweat and blood who strives Valiant who Valiant who Valiant who who come short again and again because who come short again and again because who come short again and again because there is no effort without error and

1:14there is no effort without error and there is no effort without error and shortcoming but who does actually strive shortcoming but who does actually strive shortcoming but who does actually strive to do the Deeds who knows great to do the Deeds who knows great to do the Deeds who knows great enthusiasms the great devotions who enthusiasms the great devotions who enthusiasms the great devotions who spends himself in a worthy cause who at spends himself in a worthy cause who at spends himself in a worthy cause who at the best knows in the end the Tre the the best knows in the end the Tre the the best knows in the end the Tre the Triumph of high achievement and who at Triumph of high achievement and who at Triumph of high achievement and who at the worst if he fails at least fails the worst if he fails at least fails the worst if he fails at least fails daring greatly so that his place shall daring greatly so that his place shall daring greatly so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid Souls never be with those cold and timid Souls never be with those cold and timid Souls who neither who neither who neither know Victory nor defeat no that's you the power of words defeat no that's you the power of words to inspire and shape us and let's hope to inspire and shape us and let's hope to inspire and shape us and let's hope that some of the words that we've used that some of the words that we've used that some of the words that we've used today will inspire others to live their today will inspire others to live their today will inspire others to live their story and create breakthroughs and at story and create breakthroughs and at story and create breakthroughs and at the same time come and visit you at Rec the same time come and visit you at Rec the same time come and visit you at Rec laab uh and be part of that part of that laab uh and be part of that part of that laab uh and be part of that part of that Community yeah let's do a we'll do a Community yeah let's do a we'll do a Community yeah let's do a we'll do a discount code um you can Chuck up as discount code um you can Chuck up as discount code um you can Chuck up as well so about that next time you're in well so about that next time you're in well so about that next time you're in okay that'll be brilliant mate that'll okay that'll be brilliant mate that'll okay that'll be brilliant mate that'll be fantastic Pete thanks so much for

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