00:00so I don't know if this is real or not so I don't know if this is real or not but I feel like I am really in touch but I feel like I am really in touch but I feel like I am really in touch with my nervous system and I can almost with my nervous system and I can almost with my nervous system and I can almost can control it does that seem can control it does that seem can control it does that seem interesting to interesting to interesting to you yes if you watch this video to the you yes if you watch this video to the you yes if you watch this video to the end you're going to learn how to use end you're going to learn how to use end you're going to learn how to use temperature in your shower plus your temperature in your shower plus your temperature in your shower plus your breath to create a greater sense of breath to create a greater sense of breath to create a greater sense of control in your nervous system giving control in your nervous system giving control in your nervous system giving you a sense of power back over you a sense of power back over you a sense of power back over unpleasant Sensations and unwanted unpleasant Sensations and unwanted unpleasant Sensations and unwanted experiences in your mind and body stick experiences in your mind and body stick experiences in your mind and body stick around hello YouTube Community if you around hello YouTube Community if you around hello YouTube Community if you are interested in learning how to are interested in learning how to are interested in learning how to rewrite shock and how it lives in your rewrite shock and how it lives in your rewrite shock and how it lives in your body you're going to want to stick body you're going to want to stick body you're going to want to stick around for this interview because we're around for this interview because we're around for this interview because we're going to be talking to going to be talking to going to be talking to Jill she and I accidentally discovered a Jill she and I accidentally discovered a Jill she and I accidentally discovered a technique together that you can learn technique together that you can learn technique together that you can learn how to do yourself and take back a sense how to do yourself and take back a sense how to do yourself and take back a sense of control agency and power in your own of control agency and power in your own of control agency and power in your own life life and in the unpleasant Body
01:00life life and in the unpleasant Body life life and in the unpleasant Body Sensations you might be experiencing so Sensations you might be experiencing so Sensations you might be experiencing so I'm so excited to introduce my friend I'm so excited to introduce my friend I'm so excited to introduce my friend former patient fellow human Adventurer former patient fellow human Adventurer former patient fellow human Adventurer through life Jill how are you through life Jill how are you through life Jill how are you today good how are you doing good I'm today good how are you doing good I'm today good how are you doing good I'm really excited to be having this really excited to be having this really excited to be having this conversation because I feel like on some conversation because I feel like on some conversation because I feel like on some level you and I are going back in time level you and I are going back in time level you and I are going back in time and rediscovering penicillin and rediscovering penicillin and rediscovering penicillin together because thein was this together because thein was this together because thein was this accidental discovery that led to really accidental discovery that led to really accidental discovery that led to really great great great things and I taught you a technique a things and I taught you a technique a things and I taught you a technique a little spin-off on the cold shower and little spin-off on the cold shower and little spin-off on the cold shower and my experience was that you took it and my experience was that you took it and my experience was that you took it and ran with it and started having results ran with it and started having results ran with it and started having results that I wasn't anticipating you to have that I wasn't anticipating you to have that I wasn't anticipating you to have and then I started doing what you had and then I started doing what you had and then I started doing what you had been doing and I'm seeing very similar been doing and I'm seeing very similar been doing and I'm seeing very similar results and so I want to talk today results and so I want to talk today results and so I want to talk today about about kind of your journey where
02:00about about kind of your journey where about about kind of your journey where you started what we did and where you're you started what we did and where you're you started what we did and where you're at now does that sound all right at now does that sound all right at now does that sound all right sure okay so first of sure okay so first of sure okay so first of all why did you and I start working all why did you and I start working all why did you and I start working together what were the symptoms that together what were the symptoms that together what were the symptoms that were in your world that had you come to were in your world that had you come to were in your world that had you come to see me and why were they see me and why were they see me and why were they there um so I got a concussion about there um so I got a concussion about there um so I got a concussion about three years ago and then the uh three years ago and then the uh three years ago and then the uh vestibular PT that I was seeing she I vestibular PT that I was seeing she I vestibular PT that I was seeing she I told her some of the uh things that I told her some of the uh things that I told her some of the uh things that I was experiencing and some of those was experiencing and some of those was experiencing and some of those things were things were things were anxiety and just having meltdowns and anxiety and just having meltdowns and anxiety and just having meltdowns and just sort of losing this kind of control just sort of losing this kind of control just sort of losing this kind of control that I had never experienced before and that I had never experienced before and that I had never experienced before and so she so she so she recommended getting in touch with you recommended getting in touch with you recommended getting in touch with you and I was sort of and I was sort of and I was sort of skeptical at at the beginning because I skeptical at at the beginning because I skeptical at at the beginning because I you know I I'd never experienced this you know I I'd never experienced this you know I I'd never experienced this kind of anxiety before and I'd never
03:00kind of anxiety before and I'd never kind of anxiety before and I'd never gone through this kind of therapy before gone through this kind of therapy before gone through this kind of therapy before and so it's kind of outside the norm of and so it's kind of outside the norm of and so it's kind of outside the norm of of what you think of physical therapy PT of what you think of physical therapy PT of what you think of physical therapy PT is so that's how I ended up coming is so that's how I ended up coming is so that's how I ended up coming across you yeah so it sounds like you across you yeah so it sounds like you across you yeah so it sounds like you had some he uh anxiety and your nervous had some he uh anxiety and your nervous had some he uh anxiety and your nervous system was leading to some emotional system was leading to some emotional system was leading to some emotional disregulation meltdowns somebody said disregulation meltdowns somebody said disregulation meltdowns somebody said hey this person might have a solution hey this person might have a solution hey this person might have a solution you weren't sure but because you wanted you weren't sure but because you wanted you weren't sure but because you wanted to feel better you were willing to try to feel better you were willing to try to feel better you were willing to try it well and I really trusted the PT that it well and I really trusted the PT that it well and I really trusted the PT that I was seeing I was seeing I was seeing and because she was helping me a lot and because she was helping me a lot and because she was helping me a lot with the concussion issues that I was with the concussion issues that I was with the concussion issues that I was having and she was the first person that having and she was the first person that having and she was the first person that really understood what I was going really understood what I was going really understood what I was going through from and I you know I travel a through from and I you know I travel a through from and I you know I travel a long ways to see her and um I just was I
04:00long ways to see her and um I just was I long ways to see her and um I just was I so I had this real trust from of her on so I had this real trust from of her on so I had this real trust from of her on what she recommended because she had what she recommended because she had what she recommended because she had helped me so much and she was actually helped me so much and she was actually helped me so much and she was actually someone who was like yeah I know I know someone who was like yeah I know I know someone who was like yeah I know I know what you're going through we can help what you're going through we can help what you're going through we can help you we can get you better and so you we can get you better and so you we can get you better and so that that was really helpful to have that that was really helpful to have that that was really helpful to have that kind of recommendation it sounds that kind of recommendation it sounds that kind of recommendation it sounds like trust was a key ingredient to step like trust was a key ingredient to step like trust was a key ingredient to step outside your comfort zone it's kind of outside your comfort zone it's kind of outside your comfort zone it's kind of like the fuel that gave you the courage like the fuel that gave you the courage like the fuel that gave you the courage to do something different to do something different to do something different well because I the just the other things well because I the just the other things well because I the just the other things that I I had been told like well there's that I I had been told like well there's that I I had been told like well there's nothing else we can do for you from nothing else we can do for you from nothing else we can do for you from other practitioners there is nothing other practitioners there is nothing other practitioners there is nothing else we can help you with go see your else we can help you with go see your else we can help you with go see your neurologist you know maybe you just need neurologist you know maybe you just need neurologist you know maybe you just need to pursue the drug end of things and um to pursue the drug end of things and um to pursue the drug end of things and um I I that just didn't sound right to me I I I that just didn't sound right to me I I I that just didn't sound right to me I I it's one of those things where I just I it's one of those things where I just I it's one of those things where I just I knew I kind of had to keep I knew I kind of had to keep I knew I kind of had to keep digging to keep my husband and I just we digging to keep my husband and I just we digging to keep my husband and I just we just need to keep asking questions keep
05:00just need to keep asking questions keep just need to keep asking questions keep pursuing it not just falter to the drug pursuing it not just falter to the drug pursuing it not just falter to the drug part sounds like it was important to you part sounds like it was important to you part sounds like it was important to you to not go to drugs and also to find a to not go to drugs and also to find a to not go to drugs and also to find a way to get you back to a life that was way to get you back to a life that was way to get you back to a life that was meaning fulfilling fulfilling and on meaning fulfilling fulfilling and on meaning fulfilling fulfilling and on point for you yeah what was the anxiety point for you yeah what was the anxiety point for you yeah what was the anxiety and the emotional disregulation stopping and the emotional disregulation stopping and the emotional disregulation stopping you from doing how is it getting in the you from doing how is it getting in the you from doing how is it getting in the way of your life way of your life way of your life well it okay well it okay well it okay so it's really kind of embarrassing in so it's really kind of embarrassing in so it's really kind of embarrassing in one sense to all of a sudden experiences one sense to all of a sudden experiences one sense to all of a sudden experiences meltdown in front of other people meltdown in front of other people meltdown in front of other people because I would just things would just because I would just things would just because I would just things would just start coming into my brain and I start coming into my brain and I start coming into my brain and I couldn't I just felt like a spiral out couldn't I just felt like a spiral out couldn't I just felt like a spiral out of control and I would just my breathing of control and I would just my breathing of control and I would just my breathing would go faster my I could definitely would go faster my I could definitely would go faster my I could definitely tell my heart rate was up um and I just tell my heart rate was up um and I just tell my heart rate was up um and I just couldn't it was weird I couldn't cope I couldn't it was weird I couldn't cope I couldn't it was weird I couldn't cope I couldn't it it was something I'd never
06:00couldn't it it was something I'd never couldn't it it was something I'd never experienced before and so it kind of experienced before and so it kind of experienced before and so it kind of made me not want to go do things with made me not want to go do things with made me not want to go do things with other people you know to keep myself out other people you know to keep myself out other people you know to keep myself out of those kind of of those kind of of those kind of situations that I could totally have situations that I could totally have situations that I could totally have handled in the handled in the handled in the past so sounds like there's a social past so sounds like there's a social past so sounds like there's a social component to it like I can't and don't component to it like I can't and don't component to it like I can't and don't want to be around other people and do want to be around other people and do want to be around other people and do activities around other people CU I activities around other people CU I activities around other people CU I don't have control over my own nervous don't have control over my own nervous don't have control over my own nervous system and it's very unpredictable and system and it's very unpredictable and system and it's very unpredictable and when it decides to make a show it's a when it decides to make a show it's a when it decides to make a show it's a show and it's embarrassing for me yeah show and it's embarrassing for me yeah show and it's embarrassing for me yeah and it was totally unpredictable because and it was totally unpredictable because and it was totally unpredictable because I could be as long as I could just sort I could be as long as I could just sort I could be as long as I could just sort of keep things at my speed and at of keep things at my speed and at of keep things at my speed and at my kind of my parameters I'd be fine but my kind of my parameters I'd be fine but my kind of my parameters I'd be fine but as soon as other factors were thrown in as soon as other factors were thrown in as soon as other factors were thrown in there where I kind of was felt like I there where I kind of was felt like I there where I kind of was felt like I didn't have the didn't have the didn't have the control um I couldn't just like roll control um I couldn't just like roll control um I couldn't just like roll with things I couldn't just if someone
07:00with things I couldn't just if someone with things I couldn't just if someone said let's and it it happened mostly said let's and it it happened mostly said let's and it it happened mostly with with biking or if we're out if we with with biking or if we're out if we with with biking or if we're out if we were out were out were out shopping um having to make decisions and shopping um having to make decisions and shopping um having to make decisions and I I didn't it was just because I didn't I I didn't it was just because I didn't I I didn't it was just because I didn't know what would know what would know what would happen when it would happen when it would happen when it would happen so there's this like anticipatory happen so there's this like anticipatory happen so there's this like anticipatory fear of I don't have control over this fear of I don't have control over this fear of I don't have control over this nervous system inside of me nervous system inside of me nervous system inside of me and in order to take back a sense of and in order to take back a sense of and in order to take back a sense of control it was just pull away from life control it was just pull away from life control it was just pull away from life activities like going to restaurants activities like going to restaurants activities like going to restaurants being on a bike going shopping making being on a bike going shopping making being on a bike going shopping making decisions out in public right okay yeah decisions out in public right okay yeah decisions out in public right okay yeah so that's a little bit of a big deal and so that's a little bit of a big deal and so that's a little bit of a big deal and a few months into our time together I a few months into our time together I a few months into our time together I had this idea to make a kind of crazy had this idea to make a kind of crazy had this idea to make a kind of crazy recommendation to you do you remember recommendation to you do you remember recommendation to you do you remember what I'm talking about oh yeah
08:00okay tell me your recollection of how okay tell me your recollection of how that conversation went well okay so that conversation went well okay so that conversation went well okay so you've given me a lot of good tools and you've given me a lot of good tools and you've given me a lot of good tools and I and I keep them written down this I and I keep them written down this I and I keep them written down this little notebook that I can keep after little notebook that I can keep after little notebook that I can keep after every appointment that we have I write every appointment that we have I write every appointment that we have I write stuff down so I kind of run through stuff down so I kind of run through stuff down so I kind of run through those things but then you're like hey those things but then you're like hey those things but then you're like hey why don't you try a cold shower and I why don't you try a cold shower and I why don't you try a cold shower and I was like nobody likes cold was like nobody likes cold was like nobody likes cold shower and but I was will to give it a shower and but I was will to give it a shower and but I was will to give it a try because I'm at the point in my life try because I'm at the point in my life try because I'm at the point in my life where you know I want to get over this where you know I want to get over this where you know I want to get over this concussion thing and I I'm tired of concussion thing and I I'm tired of concussion thing and I I'm tired of having it kind of determine what I do having it kind of determine what I do having it kind of determine what I do and so I'm I was I'm really willing to and so I'm I was I'm really willing to and so I'm I was I'm really willing to try about try about try about anything anything anything so and I saw in you a a very similar so and I saw in you a a very similar so and I saw in you a a very similar thing that happens for a lot of people thing that happens for a lot of people thing that happens for a lot of people when I throw out the word cold shower when I throw out the word cold shower when I throw out the word cold shower there's this instant guard that goes up there's this instant guard that goes up there's this instant guard that goes up this stiffness this idity because a cold
09:00this stiffness this idity because a cold this stiffness this idity because a cold shower is a shock to the nervous system shower is a shock to the nervous system shower is a shock to the nervous system and the body has a preconditioned and the body has a preconditioned and the body has a preconditioned response to response to response to [Music] shock yeah and that's what I remember shock yeah and that's what I remember when I first told you hey what do you when I first told you hey what do you when I first told you hey what do you think about a cold shower it's like this think about a cold shower it's like this think about a cold shower it's like this instant body nope don't want to do it instant body nope don't want to do it instant body nope don't want to do it that's my shock response and the that's my shock response and the that's my shock response and the conversation yeah walking into a cold conversation yeah walking into a cold conversation yeah walking into a cold lake or pool or something thing it's lake or pool or something thing it's lake or pool or something thing it's it's always that it's a shock because it's always that it's a shock because it's always that it's a shock because you know right away when you say cold you know right away when you say cold you know right away when you say cold shower I know what that my body's going shower I know what that my body's going shower I know what that my body's going to want to do right and so what we then to want to do right and so what we then to want to do right and so what we then talked about was talked about was talked about was troubleshooting to get your body to troubleshooting to get your body to troubleshooting to get your body to maybe do something different than its maybe do something different than its maybe do something different than its original shock response original shock response original shock response program talk me through what you program talk me through what you program talk me through what you remember how we how I gave you remember how we how I gave you remember how we how I gave you instructions to troubleshoot that okay instructions to troubleshoot that okay instructions to troubleshoot that okay so you just said don't don't go drastic
10:00so you just said don't don't go drastic so you just said don't don't go drastic right away right away right away just just ease into it just a little bit just just ease into it just a little bit just just ease into it just a little bit like make it lukewarm and then the next like make it lukewarm and then the next like make it lukewarm and then the next time maybe make it a little more and I time maybe make it a little more and I time maybe make it a little more and I can't remember exactly but this is what can't remember exactly but this is what can't remember exactly but this is what I ended up doing I just kept I would I ended up doing I just kept I would I ended up doing I just kept I would just keep bumping over more to the just keep bumping over more to the just keep bumping over more to the cold um in the shower and and I started cold um in the shower and and I started cold um in the shower and and I started noticing so I I after not very long noticing so I I after not very long noticing so I I after not very long couple weeks I started noticing you know couple weeks I started noticing you know couple weeks I started noticing you know cuz you always have that that in deep cuz you always have that that in deep cuz you always have that that in deep like quick inhale like this is cold you like quick inhale like this is cold you like quick inhale like this is cold you know but my body was starting to adapt know but my body was starting to adapt know but my body was starting to adapt and I was really starting to feel my and I was really starting to feel my and I was really starting to feel my nervous system like kind of like stop nervous system like kind of like stop nervous system like kind of like stop and start like I was able to control and start like I was able to control and start like I was able to control [Music] it and I wasn't I was preventing it from it and I wasn't I was preventing it from making that big gasp and that big jump making that big gasp and that big jump making that big gasp and that big jump and um and um and um and that really carried over
11:00and that really carried over and that really carried over into everyday kinds of things where I into everyday kinds of things where I into everyday kinds of things where I could then I was like oh that's what my could then I was like oh that's what my could then I was like oh that's what my nervous system it was just like the nervous system it was just like the nervous system it was just like the start stop start stop and you had said start stop start stop and you had said start stop start stop and you had said something about learning how to drive something about learning how to drive something about learning how to drive with a manual transmission how you're with a manual transmission how you're with a manual transmission how you're like you know you're kind of doing that like you know you're kind of doing that like you know you're kind of doing that surge it's glitchy right like the gas surge it's glitchy right like the gas surge it's glitchy right like the gas break clutch transition isn't smooth break clutch transition isn't smooth break clutch transition isn't smooth yeah and so I was really started to yeah and so I was really started to yeah and so I was really started to notice and so I mean how do you control notice and so I mean how do you control notice and so I mean how do you control your nervous system it's with for me it your nervous system it's with for me it your nervous system it's with for me it became a good breathing so I was able to became a good breathing so I was able to became a good breathing so I was able to really control my breathing slow inhale really control my breathing slow inhale really control my breathing slow inhale and and I could feel my nervous system and and I could feel my nervous system and and I could feel my nervous system like kind of I don't know how to really like kind of I don't know how to really like kind of I don't know how to really describe it but I could feel it wanting describe it but I could feel it wanting describe it but I could feel it wanting to just take off and I wasn't letting it to just take off and I wasn't letting it to just take off and I wasn't letting it and then I in the showers I was my body and then I in the showers I was my body and then I in the showers I was my body would adjust to the cold I make it a would adjust to the cold I make it a would adjust to the cold I make it a little colder and so it could be over little colder and so it could be over little colder and so it could be over the course of just one shower or it the course of just one shower or it the course of just one shower or it could be over the course of a few weeks could be over the course of a few weeks could be over the course of a few weeks of making it colder you know gradually I
12:00of making it colder you know gradually I of making it colder you know gradually I could get to the cold quicker and just could get to the cold quicker and just could get to the cold quicker and just taking those breaths to not let my taking those breaths to not let my taking those breaths to not let my nervous system just start to nervous system just start to nervous system just start to [Music] spiral and so I was able to spiral and so I was able to then apply that I could feel it then then apply that I could feel it then then apply that I could feel it then during the day if I had some kind of during the day if I had some kind of during the day if I had some kind of something causing me something causing me something causing me to feel over welmed I could use my to feel over welmed I could use my to feel over welmed I could use my breath because I knew what was happening breath because I knew what was happening breath because I knew what was happening and I knew that my nervous system was and I knew that my nervous system was and I knew that my nervous system was starting to ramp up I'm like nope I'm starting to ramp up I'm like nope I'm starting to ramp up I'm like nope I'm not going to do that and so I was able not going to do that and so I was able not going to do that and so I was able to because I've used settling and I've to because I've used settling and I've to because I've used settling and I've used you know when we're out biking my used you know when we're out biking my used you know when we're out biking my husband will like put stand and push husband will like put stand and push husband will like put stand and push down on my shoulders and sometimes that down on my shoulders and sometimes that down on my shoulders and sometimes that help is helpful but I really need help is helpful but I really need help is helpful but I really need to um stop things from ramping up from to um stop things from ramping up from to um stop things from ramping up from internally in my nervous
13:00system so it sounds like you got to know system so it sounds like you got to know your your your body's default response to shock or body's default response to shock or body's default response to shock or stress or overwhelm and once you knew stress or overwhelm and once you knew stress or overwhelm and once you knew the the the body's innate reaction you could spot it body's innate reaction you could spot it body's innate reaction you could spot it early and redirect and in effect Take early and redirect and in effect Take early and redirect and in effect Take Back Control because you recognize the Back Control because you recognize the Back Control because you recognize the little fire and put it out out instead little fire and put it out out instead little fire and put it out out instead of it growing up into a big fire yeah of it growing up into a big fire yeah of it growing up into a big fire yeah yeah and I and I yeah and I and I yeah and I and I think the cold water because it's think the cold water because it's think the cold water because it's that it's it's not like a it is a that it's it's not like a it is a that it's it's not like a it is a stressful thing you know but it's stressful thing you know but it's stressful thing you know but it's different than if you're out somewhere different than if you're out somewhere different than if you're out somewhere being overwhelmed but the reaction is being overwhelmed but the reaction is being overwhelmed but the reaction is sort of the same and I started to sort of the same and I started to sort of the same and I started to recognize that it also sounds like you recognize that it also sounds like you recognize that it also sounds like you learned how to have a greater sense of
14:00learned how to have a greater sense of learned how to have a greater sense of control over your nervous system in a control over your nervous system in a control over your nervous system in a very predictable environment where you very predictable environment where you very predictable environment where you had a lot of say in what was happening had a lot of say in what was happening had a lot of say in what was happening when do I turn the water down how much when do I turn the water down how much when do I turn the water down how much do I turn the water down how long do I do I turn the water down how long do I do I turn the water down how long do I turn it down so you had a lot of agency turn it down so you had a lot of agency turn it down so you had a lot of agency a lot of control and it was very a lot of control and it was very a lot of control and it was very predictable yeah and then as you predictable yeah and then as you predictable yeah and then as you retrained your nervous system in that retrained your nervous system in that retrained your nervous system in that predictable environment it carried over predictable environment it carried over predictable environment it carried over to the external unpredictable to the external unpredictable to the external unpredictable environment with people and cars and environment with people and cars and environment with people and cars and bikes and menus and messed up unev bikes and menus and messed up unev bikes and menus and messed up unev unexpected things yeah yeah yeah and now unexpected things yeah yeah yeah and now unexpected things yeah yeah yeah and now it's it's kind of kind of weird but now it's it's kind of kind of weird but now it's it's kind of kind of weird but now it's like super it's like super it's like super comforting just it's like you know comforting just it's like you know comforting just it's like you know you've talked before about putting a you've talked before about putting a you've talked before about putting a heavy blanket on or you know kind of heavy blanket on or you know kind of heavy blanket on or you know kind of snuggling up that way and now sometimes snuggling up that way and now sometimes snuggling up that way and now sometimes it just like a cold shower is almost it just like a cold shower is almost it just like a cold shower is almost like a comforting heavy blanket it's like a comforting heavy blanket it's like a comforting heavy blanket it's feel it feels really good and even I'll
15:00feel it feels really good and even I'll feel it feels really good and even I'll just take sometimes a cold washcloth and just take sometimes a cold washcloth and just take sometimes a cold washcloth and put it on my face because that you know put it on my face because that you know put it on my face because that you know if you just take cold water and Bam on if you just take cold water and Bam on if you just take cold water and Bam on your face that's like kind of thing but your face that's like kind of thing but your face that's like kind of thing but now even just doing that is it feels now even just doing that is it feels now even just doing that is it feels good and and I never thought that would good and and I never thought that would good and and I never thought that would I never thought that would happen but I never thought that would happen but I never thought that would happen but it's it's kind of crazy how it's it's it's kind of crazy how it's it's it's kind of crazy how it's comforting in a sense it really is just comforting in a sense it really is just comforting in a sense it really is just like this it just brings everything just like this it just brings everything just like this it just brings everything just down down down it really is credible evidence that it really is credible evidence that it really is credible evidence that anything can change things that you anything can change things that you anything can change things that you didn't think were possible could become didn't think were possible could become didn't think were possible could become possible and it sounds like in a way you possible and it sounds like in a way you possible and it sounds like in a way you learned how to become a very learned how to become a very learned how to become a very compassionate compassionate compassionate firefighter to the internal fires that firefighter to the internal fires that firefighter to the internal fires that were responding right like nervous were responding right like nervous were responding right like nervous systems out of control it's embarrassing systems out of control it's embarrassing systems out of control it's embarrassing it's unpredictable it's like a raging it's unpredictable it's like a raging it's unpredictable it's like a raging out of control forest fire yeah and you out of control forest fire yeah and you out of control forest fire yeah and you learned to soothe it with water at a
16:00learned to soothe it with water at a learned to soothe it with water at a pace that works for you and it's pace that works for you and it's pace that works for you and it's like it evokes a relaxation response like it evokes a relaxation response like it evokes a relaxation response because ultimately you are relaxing your because ultimately you are relaxing your because ultimately you are relaxing your system in a way that you've trained and system in a way that you've trained and system in a way that you've trained and built in and works for you yeah and I built in and works for you yeah and I built in and works for you yeah and I don't just walk into a cold shower you don't just walk into a cold shower you don't just walk into a cold shower you know I ease into it it's not like I'm know I ease into it it's not like I'm know I ease into it it's not like I'm turning on cold and I'm going in it's turning on cold and I'm going in it's turning on cold and I'm going in it's not like that at all it's it's easing not like that at all it's it's easing not like that at all it's it's easing easing into it and getting to a point easing into it and getting to a point easing into it and getting to a point where it becomes a where it becomes a where it becomes a relaxing kind relaxing kind relaxing kind of thing you know just it's hard to of thing you know just it's hard to of thing you know just it's hard to describe because it really does relax me describe because it really does relax me describe because it really does relax me and it's well it sounds like you're not and it's well it sounds like you're not and it's well it sounds like you're not forcing or pushing or Shing it's an forcing or pushing or Shing it's an forcing or pushing or Shing it's an invitation with respect and compassion invitation with respect and compassion invitation with respect and compassion and patience and allowing when I'm ready and patience and allowing when I'm ready and patience and allowing when I'm ready we'll just put a toe in and then another we'll just put a toe in and then another we'll just put a toe in and then another toe and another toe and in a way it toe and another toe and in a way it toe and another toe and in a way it builds a relationship between you and builds a relationship between you and builds a relationship between you and your nervous system that's very trusting your nervous system that's very trusting your nervous system that's very trusting yeah and there's some days where I'm
17:00yeah and there's some days where I'm yeah and there's some days where I'm like I'm not I don't want to do cold like I'm not I don't want to do cold like I'm not I don't want to do cold water you water you water you know and it it might be I only do it I know and it it might be I only do it I know and it it might be I only do it I only get into the cold water couple only get into the cold water couple only get into the cold water couple times a week yeah and then because some times a week yeah and then because some times a week yeah and then because some some days you're just like I'm not some days you're just like I'm not some days you're just like I'm not feeling it today so the difference talk feeling it today so the difference talk feeling it today so the difference talk to me about the difference this makes to me about the difference this makes to me about the difference this makes for you in your life how are you now for you in your life how are you now for you in your life how are you now with social activities with bikes riding with social activities with bikes riding with social activities with bikes riding bikes restaurants things like that um bikes restaurants things like that um bikes restaurants things like that um it's just improved in a lot of ways it's it's just improved in a lot of ways it's it's just improved in a lot of ways it's because I recognize when my nervous because I recognize when my nervous because I recognize when my nervous system is starting to kind of ramp up a system is starting to kind of ramp up a system is starting to kind of ramp up a little bit I I recognize it so I can little bit I I recognize it so I can little bit I I recognize it so I can with my breath because that's what I do with my breath because that's what I do with my breath because that's what I do in the shower I'm able in the shower I'm able in the shower I'm able to slow inhale slow exhale and I can to slow inhale slow exhale and I can to slow inhale slow exhale and I can just stop the spiral effect and it just just stop the spiral effect and it just just stop the spiral effect and it just it's helped a lot so when I'm out on my it's helped a lot so when I'm out on my it's helped a lot so when I'm out on my b like and b like and b like and I'm just you know having a whatever kind
18:00I'm just you know having a whatever kind I'm just you know having a whatever kind of day or rough day or because every day of day or rough day or because every day of day or rough day or because every day is different if some days are better is different if some days are better is different if some days are better than others and if I'm feeling than others and if I'm feeling than others and if I'm feeling overwhelmed I can just kind of stop and overwhelmed I can just kind of stop and overwhelmed I can just kind of stop and I can slow everything down and I can I can slow everything down and I can I can slow everything down and I can take some deep breaths and you know and take some deep breaths and you know and take some deep breaths and you know and I ride with friends who get it who they I ride with friends who get it who they I ride with friends who get it who they understand the things that I H have gone understand the things that I H have gone understand the things that I H have gone through and they don't care you know through and they don't care you know through and they don't care you know they're fine to take a break and so it they're fine to take a break and so it they're fine to take a break and so it just has really helped me to even being just has really helped me to even being just has really helped me to even being out like driving in traffic or um being out like driving in traffic or um being out like driving in traffic or um being at the grocery store where there's like at the grocery store where there's like at the grocery store where there's like too many decisions and I can't find what too many decisions and I can't find what too many decisions and I can't find what I'm looking for on the I'm looking for on the I'm looking for on the Shelf I just I don't get panicked about Shelf I just I don't get panicked about Shelf I just I don't get panicked about it which I did in the past and it was it which I did in the past and it was it which I did in the past and it was just overwhelming and now I just I can I just overwhelming and now I just I can I just overwhelming and now I just I can I feel that in my nervous system and I'm feel that in my nervous system and I'm feel that in my nervous system and I'm able to pull it back down it's kind of able to pull it back down it's kind of able to pull it back down it's kind of like a gas light on the car tells you go
19:00like a gas light on the car tells you go like a gas light on the car tells you go get gas you have a new internal gas get gas you have a new internal gas get gas you have a new internal gas light that tells you to change behavior light that tells you to change behavior light that tells you to change behavior and then you get a different result yeah and then you get a different result yeah and then you get a different result yeah yeah so it's I mean and I you know yeah so it's I mean and I you know yeah so it's I mean and I you know incorporate incorporate it with a lot of incorporate incorporate it with a lot of incorporate incorporate it with a lot of the different tools that you've given me the different tools that you've given me the different tools that you've given me because I try to read through those because I try to read through those because I try to read through those things and I haven't take this little things and I haven't take this little things and I haven't take this little book when I go out of town because I book when I go out of town because I book when I go out of town because I just don't remember because there's just don't remember because there's just don't remember because there's stretches that you've given me and stretches that you've given me and stretches that you've given me and there's other things that we've talked there's other things that we've talked there's other things that we've talked about with looking up with our eyes and about with looking up with our eyes and about with looking up with our eyes and you know there's a lot of things there's you know there's a lot of things there's you know there's a lot of things there's just so much to remember that I don't just so much to remember that I don't just so much to remember that I don't and so I I just sort of carry this and so I I just sort of carry this and so I I just sort of carry this little book with me everywhere to use little book with me everywhere to use little book with me everywhere to use the different tools throughout the day the different tools throughout the day the different tools throughout the day as I need them so and and I've improved as I need them so and and I've improved as I need them so and and I've improved so much it's not like I need this stuff so much it's not like I need this stuff so much it's not like I need this stuff every single day it's just my pattern every single day it's just my pattern every single day it's just my pattern still is I'll be great for a week or two still is I'll be great for a week or two still is I'll be great for a week or two and then all a sudden I'll start having and then all a sudden I'll start having and then all a sudden I'll start having problems so then I need to get back to
20:00problems so then I need to get back to problems so then I need to get back to the basics and then then I'm for a few the basics and then then I'm for a few the basics and then then I'm for a few days I'm struggling and then I then I'm days I'm struggling and then I then I'm days I'm struggling and then I then I'm good for a few weeks so that's it all good for a few weeks so that's it all good for a few weeks so that's it all kind of comes you know it all it all is kind of comes you know it all it all is kind of comes you know it all it all is meshes really meshes really meshes really well awesome two final question thoughts well awesome two final question thoughts well awesome two final question thoughts number one where and how if at all has number one where and how if at all has number one where and how if at all has headaches been a part of your headaches been a part of your headaches been a part of your journey um I've had a lot of journey um I've had a lot of journey um I've had a lot of headaches to like daily I'm doing a lot headaches to like daily I'm doing a lot headaches to like daily I'm doing a lot better now um and a part of that is better now um and a part of that is better now um and a part of that is heart rate related so sometimes that's heart rate related so sometimes that's heart rate related so sometimes that's not really controllable but I don't get not really controllable but I don't get not really controllable but I don't get the headaches anymore so much the headaches anymore so much the headaches anymore so much when um things are overwhelming because when um things are overwhelming because when um things are overwhelming because that would also trigger a headache so I that would also trigger a headache so I that would also trigger a headache so I think that controlling the nervous think that controlling the nervous think that controlling the nervous system has at least system has at least system has at least eliminated a lot a lot of them so would
21:00eliminated a lot a lot of them so would eliminated a lot a lot of them so would you say cold showers were part of your you say cold showers were part of your you say cold showers were part of your headaches getting better or not so much headaches getting better or not so much headaches getting better or not so much um probably played a part um probably played a part um probably played a part um you know it's just been a process um you know it's just been a process um you know it's just been a process it's almost hard to know what has helped it's almost hard to know what has helped it's almost hard to know what has helped the most the most the most but because I really do have a couple but because I really do have a couple but because I really do have a couple different things going on between a different things going on between a different things going on between a higher heart rate causing headaches and higher heart rate causing headaches and higher heart rate causing headaches and then just too much around me too much then just too much around me too much then just too much around me too much stimulation stimulation stimulation going on that can cause a headache but going on that can cause a headache but going on that can cause a headache but where I've been able to where I've been able to where I've been able to then slow things down on my own without then slow things down on my own without then slow things down on my own without having to like go home or you know I having to like go home or you know I having to like go home or you know I I've been able to I think I think it's I've been able to I think I think it's I've been able to I think I think it's probably helped with it's just always probably helped with it's just always probably helped with it's just always hard to put a finger on what hard to put a finger on what hard to put a finger on what exactly does cause you know helps every exactly does cause you know helps every exactly does cause you know helps every day every time but it it's easy um I the day every time but it it's easy um I the day every time but it it's easy um I the nervous system pulling it back not
22:00nervous system pulling it back not nervous system pulling it back not letting it ramp up seems like it's been a key ingredient up seems like it's been a key ingredient and there's a lot of pieces to the and there's a lot of pieces to the and there's a lot of pieces to the puzzle yeah yeah what would you want to puzzle yeah yeah what would you want to puzzle yeah yeah what would you want to tell somebody else in your past shoes or tell somebody else in your past shoes or tell somebody else in your past shoes or what would you want to know in your what would you want to know in your what would you want to know in your former former former shoes cold shower should I do it should shoes cold shower should I do it should shoes cold shower should I do it should I not is it worth it how like ah I don't I not is it worth it how like ah I don't I not is it worth it how like ah I don't want to do it what would you tell want to do it what would you tell want to do it what would you tell yourself well like you've always you yourself well like you've always you yourself well like you've always you have shared with me a lot of times it's have shared with me a lot of times it's have shared with me a lot of times it's like well did you like well did you like well did you die no I didn't die die no I didn't die die no I didn't die Renee it it's just worth it because you Renee it it's just worth it because you Renee it it's just worth it because you can even just start with just cool water can even just start with just cool water can even just start with just cool water because and if if you're hitting summer because and if if you're hitting summer because and if if you're hitting summer you know it's like we're we're hot and you know it's like we're we're hot and you know it's like we're we're hot and sweaty and just go take nice cool shower sweaty and just go take nice cool shower sweaty and just go take nice cool shower and then warm it up if you're like oh I and then warm it up if you're like oh I and then warm it up if you're like oh I hate this it's cold but just keep trying hate this it's cold but just keep trying hate this it's cold but just keep trying it because it because it because I don't know my body adjusted and it
23:00I don't know my body adjusted and it I don't know my body adjusted and it wasn't an overnight thing it took wasn't an overnight thing it took wasn't an overnight thing it took probably a month of of you know not you probably a month of of you know not you probably a month of of you know not you you don't have to do it every single day you don't have to do it every single day you don't have to do it every single day but like every other day or something but like every other day or something but like every other day or something just and even for just a minute or 30 just and even for just a minute or 30 just and even for just a minute or 30 seconds and just slowly easing into it seconds and just slowly easing into it seconds and just slowly easing into it and now I'll just stand there and go and now I'll just stand there and go and now I'll just stand there and go like oh this feels so good and it's not like oh this feels so good and it's not like oh this feels so good and it's not a stressful thing because at first it a stressful thing because at first it a stressful thing because at first it was stressful yeah and it was stressful yeah and it was stressful yeah and it was but you know what I've just it's was but you know what I've just it's was but you know what I've just it's been a long journey for me with the been a long journey for me with the been a long journey for me with the concussion and just concussion and just concussion and just the just ready to be well 100% well and the just ready to be well 100% well and the just ready to be well 100% well and so I'm pretty much willing to try pretty so I'm pretty much willing to try pretty so I'm pretty much willing to try pretty much much much anything that's outside of drugs because anything that's outside of drugs because anything that's outside of drugs because I don't really want to go down a road of I don't really want to go down a road of I don't really want to go down a road of I'm trying to get off headache medicine I'm trying to get off headache medicine I'm trying to get off headache medicine you know I'm not trying to add more you know I'm not trying to add more you know I'm not trying to add more stuff in necessarily yeah and I because stuff in necessarily yeah and I because stuff in necessarily yeah and I because I I'm just I'm very
24:00I I'm just I'm very I I'm just I'm very um oh uh what's the word when you're um oh uh what's the word when you're um oh uh what's the word when you're very affected by drugs um sensitive very affected by drugs um sensitive very affected by drugs um sensitive youens drugs and so it's I don't like youens drugs and so it's I don't like youens drugs and so it's I don't like the side effects that I get with them the side effects that I get with them the side effects that I get with them yeah and so it it's just like it's worth yeah and so it it's just like it's worth yeah and so it it's just like it's worth trying like why not you have nothing to trying like why not you have nothing to trying like why not you have nothing to lose other than it doesn't work for you lose other than it doesn't work for you lose other than it doesn't work for you and maybe it won't work for everybody and maybe it won't work for everybody and maybe it won't work for everybody but it's been a really good uh key for but it's been a really good uh key for but it's been a really good uh key for me in the last I don't remember how long me in the last I don't remember how long me in the last I don't remember how long ago we started doing this four months ago we started doing this four months ago we started doing this four months ago six months ago I like that four or ago six months ago I like that four or ago six months ago I like that four or five months yeah yeah and so it it was five months yeah yeah and so it it was five months yeah yeah and so it it was surprising that and I've Loved how surprising that and I've Loved how surprising that and I've Loved how you've been like just try it I mean I'm you've been like just try it I mean I'm you've been like just try it I mean I'm making this up on the spot let's try making this up on the spot let's try making this up on the spot let's try it all right Jill thank you so much it all right Jill thank you so much it all right Jill thank you so much folks run an experiment give it a try it folks run an experiment give it a try it folks run an experiment give it a try it won't kill you it might make you won't kill you it might make you won't kill you it might make you uncomfortable that will end and you uncomfortable that will end and you uncomfortable that will end and you might get a whole bunch of results that might get a whole bunch of results that might get a whole bunch of results that you weren't expecting stay with it and
25:00you weren't expecting stay with it and you weren't expecting stay with it and stay tuned for more good exercises thank stay tuned for more good exercises thank stay tuned for more good exercises thank you so much Jill yep thank you and you so much Jill yep thank you and you so much Jill yep thank you and that's what can happen for you when you that's what can happen for you when you that's what can happen for you when you do something different and you try do something different and you try do something different and you try something new unexpected things can something new unexpected things can something new unexpected things can occur that can work for you and be good occur that can work for you and be good occur that can work for you and be good to you my name is Dr Renee austr if you to you my name is Dr Renee austr if you to you my name is Dr Renee austr if you watch this to the end way to go you I watch this to the end way to go you I watch this to the end way to go you I wish and hope good things for you they wish and hope good things for you they wish and hope good things for you they are available if you'd like to work are available if you'd like to work are available if you'd like to work together I'd love to work with you we together I'd love to work with you we together I'd love to work with you we can at least have a free consult and see can at least have a free consult and see can at least have a free consult and see if it's a good fit if not maybe you'll if it's a good fit if not maybe you'll if it's a good fit if not maybe you'll consider liking the channel and consider liking the channel and consider liking the channel and subscribing and sharing it with those subscribing and sharing it with those subscribing and sharing it with those you know cuz that's sort of helpful you know cuz that's sort of helpful you know cuz that's sort of helpful stuff for stuff for stuff for me and if you just would rather not have me and if you just would rather not have me and if you just would rather not have anything to do with this silliness go anything to do with this silliness go anything to do with this silliness go away forever and know that you're loved away forever and know that you're loved away forever and know that you're loved anyway have a good day and may the cold anyway have a good day and may the cold anyway have a good day and may the cold forces of greatness be with you