The Transformative Power of Cold Exposure: Insights from Thomas Seager - Full Transcript

00:00[Music] [Music] This is the Fitness Wisdom Podcast. Hello and welcome back to another Hello and welcome back to another exciting episode of the Fitness Wisdom exciting episode of the Fitness Wisdom exciting episode of the Fitness Wisdom Podcast. Today we have a very special Podcast. Today we have a very special Podcast. Today we have a very special guest, Professor Thomas Seager. He's the guest, Professor Thomas Seager. He's the guest, Professor Thomas Seager. He's the founder of Morosco Forge, probably some founder of Morosco Forge, probably some founder of Morosco Forge, probably some of the best ice baths in the world. of the best ice baths in the world. of the best ice baths in the world. They're grounded and also self-cleaning. They're grounded and also self-cleaning. They're grounded and also self-cleaning. He's also the author of Uncommon Cold He's also the author of Uncommon Cold He's also the author of Uncommon Cold and also Uncommon Testosterone. Welcome and also Uncommon Testosterone. Welcome and also Uncommon Testosterone. Welcome to the show, Dr. Thomas. Thank you for to the show, Dr. Thomas. Thank you for to the show, Dr. Thomas. Thank you for being here. being here. being here. >> It's a pleasure to be here, Andreas. >> It's a pleasure to be here, Andreas. >> It's a pleasure to be here, Andreas. Thank you for having me on. Thank you for having me on. Thank you for having me on. >> I feel like why it's so important for us >> I feel like why it's so important for us >> I feel like why it's so important for us to have this discussion is because cold to have this discussion is because cold to have this discussion is because cold is such an underrated tool when it comes is such an underrated tool when it comes is such an underrated tool when it comes to overall health and well-being because to overall health and well-being because to overall health and well-being because it's simply just seen as this just it's simply just seen as this just it's simply just seen as this just temperature, right? Temperature change. temperature, right? Temperature change. temperature, right? Temperature change. And a lot of people the way they view at And a lot of people the way they view at And a lot of people the way they view at it is just that, oh, I just do it mainly it is just that, oh, I just do it mainly it is just that, oh, I just do it mainly for the mental health benefits or just for the mental health benefits or just for the mental health benefits or just for being tough, right? And there is a for being tough, right? And there is a for being tough, right? And there is a lot of misunderstanding and lot of misunderstanding and lot of misunderstanding and misconception as well on the internet misconception as well on the internet misconception as well on the internet and also you know floating around on

01:00and also you know floating around on and also you know floating around on social media about ice baths and how social media about ice baths and how social media about ice baths and how they actually can be counterproductive they actually can be counterproductive they actually can be counterproductive for our health. So we are going to for our health. So we are going to for our health. So we are going to dispel dispel all of these myths today I dispel dispel all of these myths today I dispel dispel all of these myths today I hope so. But before we dive into all of hope so. But before we dive into all of hope so. But before we dive into all of that I would love to hear your own that I would love to hear your own that I would love to hear your own personal journey. How you actually got personal journey. How you actually got personal journey. How you actually got into you know inventing an ice bath you into you know inventing an ice bath you into you know inventing an ice bath you know company yourself. Like what was know company yourself. Like what was know company yourself. Like what was your interest? What was the trigger? I your interest? What was the trigger? I your interest? What was the trigger? I started with cold showers because I'd started with cold showers because I'd started with cold showers because I'd read a book that said cold showers is read a book that said cold showers is read a book that said cold showers is going to toughen you up. And I said, going to toughen you up. And I said, going to toughen you up. And I said, "Okay, I want to be tougher." But I "Okay, I want to be tougher." But I "Okay, I want to be tougher." But I hated every single minute of every cold hated every single minute of every cold hated every single minute of every cold shower that I'd ever taken. In Phoenix, shower that I'd ever taken. In Phoenix, shower that I'd ever taken. In Phoenix, Arizona, where I live, the water doesn't Arizona, where I live, the water doesn't Arizona, where I live, the water doesn't even get that cold. In the summertime, even get that cold. In the summertime, even get that cold. In the summertime, it could be coming out of my shower at it could be coming out of my shower at it could be coming out of my shower at 80 degrees. So, a former student of 80 degrees. So, a former student of 80 degrees. So, a former student of mine, I'm a professor at Arizona State mine, I'm a professor at Arizona State mine, I'm a professor at Arizona State University, and a former student of mine University, and a former student of mine University, and a former student of mine said, "Well, have you ever tried an ice said, "Well, have you ever tried an ice said, "Well, have you ever tried an ice bath?" No, I'd never heard of it. He bath?" No, I'd never heard of it. He bath?" No, I'd never heard of it. He said, "Have you ever heard of Vim Hoff?" said, "Have you ever heard of Vim Hoff?" said, "Have you ever heard of Vim Hoff?" I didn't know who Vimhof was. So, he I didn't know who Vimhof was. So, he I didn't know who Vimhof was. So, he invited me to one of these things where

02:00invited me to one of these things where invited me to one of these things where you buy, you know, 200 lb of ice and you you buy, you know, 200 lb of ice and you you buy, you know, 200 lb of ice and you throw it in the horse trough and you do throw it in the horse trough and you do throw it in the horse trough and you do the breath work. Thought it was great. the breath work. Thought it was great. the breath work. Thought it was great. Completely different experience than a Completely different experience than a Completely different experience than a cold shower for me. It wasn't until cold shower for me. It wasn't until cold shower for me. It wasn't until later I found this paper. uh it was done later I found this paper. uh it was done later I found this paper. uh it was done by these researchers in Finland. They by these researchers in Finland. They by these researchers in Finland. They compared partial body cold immersion to compared partial body cold immersion to compared partial body cold immersion to whole body cold immersion and they found whole body cold immersion and they found whole body cold immersion and they found two different effects on the nervous two different effects on the nervous two different effects on the nervous system. When you do partial body, you system. When you do partial body, you system. When you do partial body, you get activation of the sympathetic get activation of the sympathetic get activation of the sympathetic nervous system. You get the activation nervous system. You get the activation nervous system. You get the activation of the brown fat. It can be very good of the brown fat. It can be very good of the brown fat. It can be very good for your metabolism. But what you don't for your metabolism. But what you don't for your metabolism. But what you don't get is the dive reflex. You don't get get is the dive reflex. You don't get get is the dive reflex. You don't get that sense of calm that the whole body that sense of calm that the whole body that sense of calm that the whole body ice bath will give you. So your heart ice bath will give you. So your heart ice bath will give you. So your heart rate never comes down. Your rate never comes down. Your rate never comes down. Your parasympathetic parasympathetic parasympathetic division never takes over. The ice bath division never takes over. The ice bath division never takes over. The ice bath has this paradoxical calming experience. has this paradoxical calming experience. has this paradoxical calming experience. And then after say the first 30 seconds And then after say the first 30 seconds And then after say the first 30 seconds you wonder what the heck was I even

03:00you wonder what the heck was I even you wonder what the heck was I even worried about? Why was I anxious? After worried about? Why was I anxious? After worried about? Why was I anxious? After that dive reflex kicks in, your brain that dive reflex kicks in, your brain that dive reflex kicks in, your brain enters an involuntary meditative state enters an involuntary meditative state enters an involuntary meditative state when you get out and the dopamine and when you get out and the dopamine and when you get out and the dopamine and the noradrenaline is now coursing the noradrenaline is now coursing the noradrenaline is now coursing through all the neurotransmitters that through all the neurotransmitters that through all the neurotransmitters that were produced in response to the were produced in response to the were produced in response to the activation from the cold. When you get activation from the cold. When you get activation from the cold. When you get out now, you feel euphoric. So the ice out now, you feel euphoric. So the ice out now, you feel euphoric. So the ice bath experience was entirely different bath experience was entirely different bath experience was entirely different than the cold shower experience for me. than the cold shower experience for me. than the cold shower experience for me. We got tired of buying ice. You know, in We got tired of buying ice. You know, in We got tired of buying ice. You know, in Phoenix, Arizona, it's 45 degrees C, say Phoenix, Arizona, it's 45 degrees C, say Phoenix, Arizona, it's 45 degrees C, say in the backyard, and you buy all this in the backyard, and you buy all this in the backyard, and you buy all this ice, but it melts in 15 minutes. We ice, but it melts in 15 minutes. We ice, but it melts in 15 minutes. We said, "Well, we should really be able to said, "Well, we should really be able to said, "Well, we should really be able to build a machine. We're engineers. We build a machine. We're engineers. We build a machine. We're engineers. We ought to be able to, you know, construct ought to be able to, you know, construct ought to be able to, you know, construct something that makes its own ice." So, something that makes its own ice." So, something that makes its own ice." So, we did, but I didn't get serious about we did, but I didn't get serious about we did, but I didn't get serious about it until I got a lab report back. And it until I got a lab report back. And it until I got a lab report back. And the lab report measured my PSA, which is the lab report measured my PSA, which is the lab report measured my PSA, which is prostate specific antigen. I was 52

04:00prostate specific antigen. I was 52 prostate specific antigen. I was 52 years old at the time, and it's years old at the time, and it's years old at the time, and it's something that, you know, they say you something that, you know, they say you something that, you know, they say you should do. You know, men should get should do. You know, men should get should do. You know, men should get their PSA checked as they get older. their PSA checked as they get older. their PSA checked as they get older. >> My PSA came back seven, which is too >> My PSA came back seven, which is too >> My PSA came back seven, which is too high. I went straight onto the internet high. I went straight onto the internet high. I went straight onto the internet to figure out why they were flagging to figure out why they were flagging to figure out why they were flagging that on my lab report in red and telling that on my lab report in red and telling that on my lab report in red and telling me it was a danger sign. And it took me it was a danger sign. And it took me it was a danger sign. And it took maybe 20 minutes of googling around to maybe 20 minutes of googling around to maybe 20 minutes of googling around to convince myself I was going to die of convince myself I was going to die of convince myself I was going to die of prostate cancer. Now, the PSA is not a prostate cancer. Now, the PSA is not a prostate cancer. Now, the PSA is not a prostate cancer test. It just says you prostate cancer test. It just says you prostate cancer test. It just says you have an inflamed prostate. However, the have an inflamed prostate. However, the have an inflamed prostate. However, the the thing you're supposed to do is go to the thing you're supposed to do is go to the thing you're supposed to do is go to your urologist, have a prostate exam, your urologist, have a prostate exam, your urologist, have a prostate exam, get a biopsy. And I started talking to get a biopsy. And I started talking to get a biopsy. And I started talking to other guys who had done this. The biopsy other guys who had done this. The biopsy other guys who had done this. The biopsy was incredibly painful. It was was incredibly painful. It was was incredibly painful. It was inconclusive in many cases. And so as a inconclusive in many cases. And so as a inconclusive in many cases. And so as a precautionary measure, they had the precautionary measure, they had the precautionary measure, they had the surgery to have their prostate removed. surgery to have their prostate removed. surgery to have their prostate removed. And one of the things that that does is And one of the things that that does is And one of the things that that does is leave you with a lifetime of erectile

05:00leave you with a lifetime of erectile leave you with a lifetime of erectile dysfunction. So I had all these dysfunction. So I had all these dysfunction. So I had all these catastrophic thoughts going through my catastrophic thoughts going through my catastrophic thoughts going through my head. I thought I was either going to head. I thought I was either going to head. I thought I was either going to die of prostate cancer or I was going to die of prostate cancer or I was going to die of prostate cancer or I was going to have a prostate ectomy and have a have a prostate ectomy and have a have a prostate ectomy and have a lifetime of erectile dysfunction. And lifetime of erectile dysfunction. And lifetime of erectile dysfunction. And neither one of those sounded good to me, neither one of those sounded good to me, neither one of those sounded good to me, Andreas. So instead of going to the Andreas. So instead of going to the Andreas. So instead of going to the urologist, instead of doing what WebMD urologist, instead of doing what WebMD urologist, instead of doing what WebMD told me I was supposed to do, I got told me I was supposed to do, I got told me I was supposed to do, I got straight into the ice bath. I started straight into the ice bath. I started straight into the ice bath. I started doing it every single day. I thought the doing it every single day. I thought the doing it every single day. I thought the ice bath is good for inflammation. The ice bath is good for inflammation. The ice bath is good for inflammation. The ice bath is good for metabolism. I'm ice bath is good for metabolism. I'm ice bath is good for metabolism. I'm going to use a keto diet, which I went going to use a keto diet, which I went going to use a keto diet, which I went in and out of, and the ice bath to see in and out of, and the ice bath to see in and out of, and the ice bath to see if I can get this PSA down. And it if I can get this PSA down. And it if I can get this PSA down. And it worked. Four months later, I had dropped worked. Four months later, I had dropped worked. Four months later, I had dropped my PSA from seven down to 1.8. It went a my PSA from seven down to 1.8. It went a my PSA from seven down to 1.8. It went a little uh lower later on, but I a funny little uh lower later on, but I a funny little uh lower later on, but I a funny thing happened in my labs. You know, thing happened in my labs. You know, thing happened in my labs. You know, when you go in to the lab, at least in when you go in to the lab, at least in when you go in to the lab, at least in Arizona, and you check, yep, I want the Arizona, and you check, yep, I want the Arizona, and you check, yep, I want the male health panel. They don't just check male health panel. They don't just check male health panel. They don't just check your PSA, they also check your total

06:00your PSA, they also check your total your PSA, they also check your total testosterone. And my testosterone testosterone. And my testosterone testosterone. And my testosterone jumped. I was in the mid700s and I went jumped. I was in the mid700s and I went jumped. I was in the mid700s and I went up to 1180 nanograms per deciliter which up to 1180 nanograms per deciliter which up to 1180 nanograms per deciliter which came back flagged red too high on the came back flagged red too high on the came back flagged red too high on the lab report for a overweight sedentary lab report for a overweight sedentary lab report for a overweight sedentary 52year-old guy to have 1180 nanogs per 52year-old guy to have 1180 nanogs per 52year-old guy to have 1180 nanogs per decal liter testosterone cries out for decal liter testosterone cries out for decal liter testosterone cries out for an explanation. So I went you know I'm a an explanation. So I went you know I'm a an explanation. So I went you know I'm a scientist. I went back into the library scientist. I went back into the library scientist. I went back into the library and I started looking for any evidence and I started looking for any evidence and I started looking for any evidence of cold exposure and testosterone. I of cold exposure and testosterone. I of cold exposure and testosterone. I found some in 1991. found some in 1991. found some in 1991. These Japanese researchers, they looked These Japanese researchers, they looked These Japanese researchers, they looked at young men and they did cold after at young men and they did cold after at young men and they did cold after exercise, which was what everybody was exercise, which was what everybody was exercise, which was what everybody was doing. Use cold for recovery. doing. Use cold for recovery. doing. Use cold for recovery. Testosterone and luteinizing hormone Testosterone and luteinizing hormone Testosterone and luteinizing hormone both went down. But then for some reason both went down. But then for some reason both went down. But then for some reason they reversed it. They did the cold and they reversed it. They did the cold and they reversed it. They did the cold and then they did the exercise. testosterone then they did the exercise. testosterone then they did the exercise. testosterone and luteinizing hormone went up. Well, and luteinizing hormone went up. Well, and luteinizing hormone went up. Well, Andreas, I wasn't doing the ice baths to

07:00Andreas, I wasn't doing the ice baths to Andreas, I wasn't doing the ice baths to recover from kind of some strenuous recover from kind of some strenuous recover from kind of some strenuous workout. I wasn't running three miles a workout. I wasn't running three miles a workout. I wasn't running three miles a day, you know? I was doing the ice bath day, you know? I was doing the ice bath day, you know? I was doing the ice bath cuz I was afraid I was going to die of cuz I was afraid I was going to die of cuz I was afraid I was going to die of prostate cancer. So, when I got out, of prostate cancer. So, when I got out, of prostate cancer. So, when I got out, of course, I would exercise. I would do course, I would exercise. I would do course, I would exercise. I would do some push-ups or pull-ups or I'd go for some push-ups or pull-ups or I'd go for some push-ups or pull-ups or I'd go for a walk. Not a lot of exercise, but just a walk. Not a lot of exercise, but just a walk. Not a lot of exercise, but just enough to get my blood flowing back into enough to get my blood flowing back into enough to get my blood flowing back into my limbs. It was exactly the protocol my limbs. It was exactly the protocol my limbs. It was exactly the protocol that the Japanese study said would boost that the Japanese study said would boost that the Japanese study said would boost my testosterone and it did. So I wrote my testosterone and it did. So I wrote my testosterone and it did. So I wrote an article about it. I put it up, you an article about it. I put it up, you an article about it. I put it up, you know, on the internet where everybody know, on the internet where everybody know, on the internet where everybody could read, you know, these brilliant could read, you know, these brilliant could read, you know, these brilliant findings of mine. And nobody cared, you findings of mine. And nobody cared, you findings of mine. And nobody cared, you know, Google ignored it. Nobody was know, Google ignored it. Nobody was know, Google ignored it. Nobody was looking at morascoforge.com, looking at morascoforge.com, looking at morascoforge.com, you know, for advice on testosterone you know, for advice on testosterone you know, for advice on testosterone until Joe Rogan found it and he put it until Joe Rogan found it and he put it until Joe Rogan found it and he put it up on his podcast and he explained to up on his podcast and he explained to up on his podcast and he explained to David Gogggins, this was December 2022, David Gogggins, this was December 2022, David Gogggins, this was December 2022, that he'd started this protocol of doing that he'd started this protocol of doing that he'd started this protocol of doing his ice bath in the morning and then

08:00his ice bath in the morning and then his ice bath in the morning and then doing some exercise. And David Gogggins doing some exercise. And David Gogggins doing some exercise. And David Gogggins was like, "Well, that's crazy. You know, was like, "Well, that's crazy. You know, was like, "Well, that's crazy. You know, how's that working for you?" And Joe how's that working for you?" And Joe how's that working for you?" And Joe said, "It's working." Then people all said, "It's working." Then people all said, "It's working." Then people all over the world found the article. They over the world found the article. They over the world found the article. They started reading it. They started doing started reading it. They started doing started reading it. They started doing it because they wanted to see what hap it because they wanted to see what hap it because they wanted to see what hap they started sending me their labs. And they started sending me their labs. And they started sending me their labs. And that's really what happened with my that's really what happened with my that's really what happened with my book, Uncommon Testosterone. It explains book, Uncommon Testosterone. It explains book, Uncommon Testosterone. It explains what happened to me, what happened to my what happened to me, what happened to my what happened to me, what happened to my prostate, what happened to my prostate, what happened to my prostate, what happened to my testosterone. It's got the case studies testosterone. It's got the case studies testosterone. It's got the case studies of men and women, by the way, from all of men and women, by the way, from all of men and women, by the way, from all over the world. It says, "This is why over the world. It says, "This is why over the world. It says, "This is why your testosterone goes up. It turns out your testosterone goes up. It turns out your testosterone goes up. It turns out that every sex hormone in the body that every sex hormone in the body that every sex hormone in the body originates as pregnentoolone synthesized originates as pregnentoolone synthesized originates as pregnentoolone synthesized in the mitochondria. It is the in the mitochondria. It is the in the mitochondria. It is the mitochondria that are responsible for mitochondria that are responsible for mitochondria that are responsible for producing your sex hormones. So when you producing your sex hormones. So when you producing your sex hormones. So when you do things that support your do things that support your do things that support your mitochondria, exercise is good, mitochondria, exercise is good, mitochondria, exercise is good, magnesium is good, zinc is good, sleep magnesium is good, zinc is good, sleep magnesium is good, zinc is good, sleep is good, get all the seed oils out of

09:00is good, get all the seed oils out of is good, get all the seed oils out of your diet. It's good for your your diet. It's good for your your diet. It's good for your mitochondria. And one of the best things mitochondria. And one of the best things mitochondria. And one of the best things you can do is cold plunge therapy you can do is cold plunge therapy you can do is cold plunge therapy because it stimulates mitobiogenesis. because it stimulates mitobiogenesis. because it stimulates mitobiogenesis. Now you have more mitochondria. They are Now you have more mitochondria. They are Now you have more mitochondria. They are of a higher quality because of what of a higher quality because of what of a higher quality because of what you've been doing in the cold. It's no you've been doing in the cold. It's no you've been doing in the cold. It's no wonder your testosterone levels go up. wonder your testosterone levels go up. wonder your testosterone levels go up. So that's the genesis of Morasco Forge. So that's the genesis of Morasco Forge. So that's the genesis of Morasco Forge. Some people come after me and they say, Some people come after me and they say, Some people come after me and they say, you know, this guy, he's fabricating the you know, this guy, he's fabricating the you know, this guy, he's fabricating the science so he can sell more ice baths. science so he can sell more ice baths. science so he can sell more ice baths. And they get the order wrong. After I And they get the order wrong. After I And they get the order wrong. After I figured out how incredible the science figured out how incredible the science figured out how incredible the science was, backed up by my own experience, I was, backed up by my own experience, I was, backed up by my own experience, I had to start fabricating ice baths so had to start fabricating ice baths so had to start fabricating ice baths so that the world could have access to what that the world could have access to what that the world could have access to what they needed to keep their metabolism they needed to keep their metabolism they needed to keep their metabolism healthy, their testosterone levels up, healthy, their testosterone levels up, healthy, their testosterone levels up, their energy levels up, etc. their energy levels up, etc. their energy levels up, etc. >> Oh yeah. If there was one substance that >> Oh yeah. If there was one substance that >> Oh yeah. If there was one substance that could increase your energy levels, could increase your energy levels, could increase your energy levels, optimize mitochondrial function, boost optimize mitochondrial function, boost optimize mitochondrial function, boost ATP production, help to optimize your ATP production, help to optimize your ATP production, help to optimize your hormones, remmineralize the body with

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11:00outside. It's working all the way on a outside. It's working all the way on a cellular level on the mitochondrial cellular level on the mitochondrial cellular level on the mitochondrial level because we know that the level because we know that the level because we know that the mitochondria are the foundation of mitochondria are the foundation of mitochondria are the foundation of health. And when mitochondrial health is health. And when mitochondrial health is health. And when mitochondrial health is suffering that's when everything else suffering that's when everything else suffering that's when everything else begins to decline because obviously the begins to decline because obviously the begins to decline because obviously the mitochondria they produce the energy for mitochondria they produce the energy for mitochondria they produce the energy for the cells. And obviously if the cells the cells. And obviously if the cells the cells. And obviously if the cells have the energy that they need then they have the energy that they need then they have the energy that they need then they can carry out all of the necessary can carry out all of the necessary can carry out all of the necessary processes that they need to be able to processes that they need to be able to processes that they need to be able to thrive and to and to survive really. And thrive and to and to survive really. And thrive and to and to survive really. And when things are you know our modern when things are you know our modern when things are you know our modern living really which is making us uh so living really which is making us uh so living really which is making us uh so comfortable you know the temperature for comfortable you know the temperature for comfortable you know the temperature for example the the lack of sunlight staying example the the lack of sunlight staying example the the lack of sunlight staying indoors and being under under artificial indoors and being under under artificial indoors and being under under artificial blue light. This is so damaging to our blue light. This is so damaging to our blue light. This is so damaging to our mitochondria and I feel like to um cold mitochondria and I feel like to um cold mitochondria and I feel like to um cold can be such a incredible tool for people can be such a incredible tool for people can be such a incredible tool for people who can't get much time in nature for who can't get much time in nature for who can't get much time in nature for example who can get such a incredible example who can get such a incredible example who can get such a incredible hack hack into their lives because it's hack hack into their lives because it's hack hack into their lives because it's actually going to change their body from actually going to change their body from actually going to change their body from the inside out. Right? So maybe now you the inside out. Right? So maybe now you the inside out. Right? So maybe now you can take us down the journey of what can take us down the journey of what can take us down the journey of what actually happens step by step by the

12:00actually happens step by step by the actually happens step by step by the time frame from the moment that we enter time frame from the moment that we enter time frame from the moment that we enter the ice bath by time and what's actually the ice bath by time and what's actually the ice bath by time and what's actually happening under the hood on a biological happening under the hood on a biological happening under the hood on a biological level. level. level. >> You get it Andreas. Um it's so ironic. >> You get it Andreas. Um it's so ironic. >> You get it Andreas. Um it's so ironic. Our industrialized modern world that Our industrialized modern world that Our industrialized modern world that makes us so comfortable is also killing makes us so comfortable is also killing makes us so comfortable is also killing us. So everything that my grandfather, us. So everything that my grandfather, us. So everything that my grandfather, you know, used to consider a hardship, you know, used to consider a hardship, you know, used to consider a hardship, we now consider therapy. My grandfather we now consider therapy. My grandfather we now consider therapy. My grandfather used to chop wood so he could, you know, used to chop wood so he could, you know, used to chop wood so he could, you know, run the wood stove in Maine the whole run the wood stove in Maine the whole run the wood stove in Maine the whole winter and so he's getting his exercise winter and so he's getting his exercise winter and so he's getting his exercise and he'd be so sore at the end of the and he'd be so sore at the end of the and he'd be so sore at the end of the day. Now we go to the gym because what day. Now we go to the gym because what day. Now we go to the gym because what he used to think was a hardship we he used to think was a hardship we he used to think was a hardship we consider a therapy. Well, cold is part consider a therapy. Well, cold is part consider a therapy. Well, cold is part of that. It takes about two weeks for of that. It takes about two weeks for of that. It takes about two weeks for your body to recruit brown fat in your body to recruit brown fat in your body to recruit brown fat in response to daily cold stimulation. My response to daily cold stimulation. My response to daily cold stimulation. My people come from the North Sea. I come people come from the North Sea. I come people come from the North Sea. I come from seasonal latitudes. I'm supposed to from seasonal latitudes. I'm supposed to from seasonal latitudes. I'm supposed to have summer and I'm supposed to have have summer and I'm supposed to have have summer and I'm supposed to have winter. The problem is I live in a

13:00winter. The problem is I live in a winter. The problem is I live in a high-rise apartment building in the high-rise apartment building in the high-rise apartment building in the hottest city in North America in the hottest city in North America in the hottest city in North America in the middle of the desert in Phoenix, middle of the desert in Phoenix, middle of the desert in Phoenix, Arizona. I don't get any winter. I need Arizona. I don't get any winter. I need Arizona. I don't get any winter. I need an ice bath to maintain healthy levels an ice bath to maintain healthy levels an ice bath to maintain healthy levels of brown fat. Now, some people might of brown fat. Now, some people might of brown fat. Now, some people might say, "What's the point of brown fat?" say, "What's the point of brown fat?" say, "What's the point of brown fat?" You know, 20 years ago, medical doctors You know, 20 years ago, medical doctors You know, 20 years ago, medical doctors thought there was no such thing as brown thought there was no such thing as brown thought there was no such thing as brown fat in human adults. They thought it was fat in human adults. They thought it was fat in human adults. They thought it was only something that babies had and then only something that babies had and then only something that babies had and then everybody grew out of it. But it was in everybody grew out of it. But it was in everybody grew out of it. But it was in Sweden when they were doing PET scans Sweden when they were doing PET scans Sweden when they were doing PET scans with cancer patients and they said, "We with cancer patients and they said, "We with cancer patients and they said, "We think we found brown fat in grown-ups." think we found brown fat in grown-ups." think we found brown fat in grown-ups." And they published a couple of papers. I And they published a couple of papers. I And they published a couple of papers. I think this was 2007. And so other cancer think this was 2007. And so other cancer think this was 2007. And so other cancer researchers started looking at their researchers started looking at their researchers started looking at their scans looking for brown fat. And sure scans looking for brown fat. And sure scans looking for brown fat. And sure enough, about 5% of the cancer patients enough, about 5% of the cancer patients enough, about 5% of the cancer patients scanned showed visible brown fat on the scanned showed visible brown fat on the scanned showed visible brown fat on the scans. What that meant was 95% of these scans. What that meant was 95% of these scans. What that meant was 95% of these patients had zero detectable brown fat.

14:00patients had zero detectable brown fat. patients had zero detectable brown fat. If you do not get cold on a regular If you do not get cold on a regular If you do not get cold on a regular basis, you lose your brown fat. And basis, you lose your brown fat. And basis, you lose your brown fat. And maybe some people are saying, "I'm okay maybe some people are saying, "I'm okay maybe some people are saying, "I'm okay with no brown fat. I'm just going to with no brown fat. I'm just going to with no brown fat. I'm just going to keep the thermostat up and I'll stay keep the thermostat up and I'll stay keep the thermostat up and I'll stay warm." But brown fat is not just about warm." But brown fat is not just about warm." But brown fat is not just about thermogenesis. Brown fat is an essential thermogenesis. Brown fat is an essential thermogenesis. Brown fat is an essential secrettoryy organ. So it makes for secrettoryy organ. So it makes for secrettoryy organ. So it makes for example neuroprotective factors FGF21 example neuroprotective factors FGF21 example neuroprotective factors FGF21 and brain derived neuroprotective factor and brain derived neuroprotective factor and brain derived neuroprotective factor 3 are associated with higher levels of 3 are associated with higher levels of 3 are associated with higher levels of brown fat. Your brown fat takes care of brown fat. Your brown fat takes care of brown fat. Your brown fat takes care of your brain. Your brown fat also your brain. Your brown fat also your brain. Your brown fat also communicates with your thyroid to communicates with your thyroid to communicates with your thyroid to regulate your metabolism. When you have regulate your metabolism. When you have regulate your metabolism. When you have no brown fat, there is nothing to no brown fat, there is nothing to no brown fat, there is nothing to modulate your thyroid function. And so modulate your thyroid function. And so modulate your thyroid function. And so many people who are separated from the many people who are separated from the many people who are separated from the cold will wind up with a thyroid cold will wind up with a thyroid cold will wind up with a thyroid disorder, either hypo or hyper, that can disorder, either hypo or hyper, that can disorder, either hypo or hyper, that can be corrected by two weeks of regular ice be corrected by two weeks of regular ice be corrected by two weeks of regular ice bath therapy. Now their body recruits

15:00bath therapy. Now their body recruits bath therapy. Now their body recruits new brown fat that communicates with the new brown fat that communicates with the new brown fat that communicates with the thyroid, modulates its function and thyroid, modulates its function and thyroid, modulates its function and brings it back into the normal range. brings it back into the normal range. brings it back into the normal range. It's brown fat that will convert It's brown fat that will convert It's brown fat that will convert inactive thyroid hormone into the active inactive thyroid hormone into the active inactive thyroid hormone into the active form of thyroid hormone. So the brown form of thyroid hormone. So the brown form of thyroid hormone. So the brown fat supports the thyroid and the thyroid fat supports the thyroid and the thyroid fat supports the thyroid and the thyroid signals the brown fat. When you don't signals the brown fat. When you don't signals the brown fat. When you don't get cold, you lose your brown fat. You get cold, you lose your brown fat. You get cold, you lose your brown fat. You lose an essential metabolic and lose an essential metabolic and lose an essential metabolic and neuroprotective organ. It is no wonder neuroprotective organ. It is no wonder neuroprotective organ. It is no wonder you get sick. you get sick. you get sick. >> Wow, that's so powerful. Yeah, it just >> Wow, that's so powerful. Yeah, it just >> Wow, that's so powerful. Yeah, it just makes you realize that it's a biological makes you realize that it's a biological makes you realize that it's a biological necessity to get cold. It's not just necessity to get cold. It's not just necessity to get cold. It's not just something that's nice to do. You know something that's nice to do. You know something that's nice to do. You know how Uncle Dr. Jack Cruz, he he talks how Uncle Dr. Jack Cruz, he he talks how Uncle Dr. Jack Cruz, he he talks about the three-leg stool of life, about the three-leg stool of life, about the three-leg stool of life, right? He talks about light, water, right? He talks about light, water, right? He talks about light, water, magnetism, and how those three things magnetism, and how those three things magnetism, and how those three things are essential for supporting life on are essential for supporting life on are essential for supporting life on this planet. Well, I would actually want this planet. Well, I would actually want this planet. Well, I would actually want to add into that stool if it if it would to add into that stool if it if it would to add into that stool if it if it would be possible melanin, DHA, and cold

16:00be possible melanin, DHA, and cold be possible melanin, DHA, and cold because I feel like those if you add all because I feel like those if you add all because I feel like those if you add all of those things together, my god, you of those things together, my god, you of those things together, my god, you would have such a such a thriving would have such a such a thriving would have such a such a thriving organism because as you're mentioning, organism because as you're mentioning, organism because as you're mentioning, it's not just something nice to do. It's it's not just something nice to do. It's it's not just something nice to do. It's a biological necessity, especially if a biological necessity, especially if a biological necessity, especially if you're designed, your biology is you're designed, your biology is you're designed, your biology is designed to actually be exposed to the designed to actually be exposed to the designed to actually be exposed to the cold. Because a lot of people don't cold. Because a lot of people don't cold. Because a lot of people don't understand that if they are from a understand that if they are from a understand that if they are from a northern latitude and they are living northern latitude and they are living northern latitude and they are living closer to the equator, they think that closer to the equator, they think that closer to the equator, they think that it's okay to not do the cold. But I it's okay to not do the cold. But I it's okay to not do the cold. But I personally because my mother is from the personally because my mother is from the personally because my mother is from the UK but my father is from Cyprus. So I'm UK but my father is from Cyprus. So I'm UK but my father is from Cyprus. So I'm half and half. But I I really really half and half. But I I really really half and half. But I I really really crave the cold like the entire crave the cold like the entire crave the cold like the entire summertime I really really crave the summertime I really really crave the summertime I really really crave the cold. So that's just telling me that you cold. So that's just telling me that you cold. So that's just telling me that you know my body really needs it. Whereas know my body really needs it. Whereas know my body really needs it. Whereas this there are some individuals who this there are some individuals who this there are some individuals who don't really crave the cold at all. And don't really crave the cold at all. And don't really crave the cold at all. And I can imagine that people who are born I can imagine that people who are born I can imagine that people who are born on the equator, do they actually need to on the equator, do they actually need to on the equator, do they actually need to do the cold as well? Do they also do the cold as well? Do they also do the cold as well? Do they also benefit from the cold, for example? benefit from the cold, for example? benefit from the cold, for example? >> Yes. Um, so here's two things to keep in >> Yes. Um, so here's two things to keep in >> Yes. Um, so here's two things to keep in mind, Andreas. First, your mitochondria

17:00mind, Andreas. First, your mitochondria mind, Andreas. First, your mitochondria have their own DNA. Mitochondria do not have their own DNA. Mitochondria do not have their own DNA. Mitochondria do not participate in sexual reproduction like participate in sexual reproduction like participate in sexual reproduction like the DNA in the nucleus does. You've the DNA in the nucleus does. You've the DNA in the nucleus does. You've inherited your mitochondria from your inherited your mitochondria from your inherited your mitochondria from your mother. So as far as your mitochondria mother. So as far as your mitochondria mother. So as far as your mitochondria are concerned, they don't care that your are concerned, they don't care that your are concerned, they don't care that your father is from Cyprus because all of father is from Cyprus because all of father is from Cyprus because all of your mitochondria are inherited from the your mitochondria are inherited from the your mitochondria are inherited from the mother because the mitochondria do not mother because the mitochondria do not mother because the mitochondria do not participate in sexual reproduction. The participate in sexual reproduction. The participate in sexual reproduction. The although the mutation rate will modify although the mutation rate will modify although the mutation rate will modify mitochondria and result in different mitochondria and result in different mitochondria and result in different hllet types, the inheritance of hllet types, the inheritance of hllet types, the inheritance of mitochondria that goes along this mitochondria that goes along this mitochondria that goes along this maternal line means that there's less maternal line means that there's less maternal line means that there's less variation in each generation. That is variation in each generation. That is variation in each generation. That is when you inherit one set of chromosomes when you inherit one set of chromosomes when you inherit one set of chromosomes from your mother and one from a father. from your mother and one from a father. from your mother and one from a father. There's all kinds of recombinations. There's all kinds of recombinations. There's all kinds of recombinations. When you inherit them only from your When you inherit them only from your When you inherit them only from your mother, they change more slowly. So, as mother, they change more slowly. So, as mother, they change more slowly. So, as a first approximation, we have the same a first approximation, we have the same a first approximation, we have the same mitochondria as our ancient grandmothers

18:00mitochondria as our ancient grandmothers mitochondria as our ancient grandmothers who survived the ice age of 70,000 years who survived the ice age of 70,000 years who survived the ice age of 70,000 years ago. Where did they live? The oldest ago. Where did they live? The oldest ago. Where did they live? The oldest human fossils have been found in East human fossils have been found in East human fossils have been found in East Africa. During this ice age, the Africa. During this ice age, the Africa. During this ice age, the anthropologists estimate what was called anthropologists estimate what was called anthropologists estimate what was called a population bottleneck. Estimate that a population bottleneck. Estimate that a population bottleneck. Estimate that there were only 5,000 human beings there were only 5,000 human beings there were only 5,000 human beings living between the edge of the glacier living between the edge of the glacier living between the edge of the glacier and the ocean. We lived at the water's and the ocean. We lived at the water's and the ocean. We lived at the water's edge. We fished and we foraged in the edge. We fished and we foraged in the edge. We fished and we foraged in the water so we could stay alive. And that water so we could stay alive. And that water so we could stay alive. And that water was cold. So where does Vimhof water was cold. So where does Vimhof water was cold. So where does Vimhof take his trainees? You know, after they take his trainees? You know, after they take his trainees? You know, after they finished their breath work training and finished their breath work training and finished their breath work training and they finished their ice bath and they they finished their ice bath and they they finished their ice bath and they finished their sauna, what do they do? finished their sauna, what do they do? finished their sauna, what do they do? They climb up Mount Kilimanjaro. Well, They climb up Mount Kilimanjaro. Well, They climb up Mount Kilimanjaro. Well, Mount Kilimanjaro is on the equator. Mount Kilimanjaro is on the equator. Mount Kilimanjaro is on the equator. There are four modern glaciers in East There are four modern glaciers in East There are four modern glaciers in East Africa and they were all iced over Africa and they were all iced over Africa and they were all iced over 70,000 years ago during this ice age. So

19:0070,000 years ago during this ice age. So 70,000 years ago during this ice age. So we have this sort of modern we have this sort of modern we have this sort of modern misconception that the world today was misconception that the world today was misconception that the world today was the world that it always was and that's the world that it always was and that's the world that it always was and that's not true. Our ancient ancestors were not true. Our ancient ancestors were not true. Our ancient ancestors were stressed by the cold and in particular stressed by the cold and in particular stressed by the cold and in particular the cold water in a way that favored the cold water in a way that favored the cold water in a way that favored those who had the mitochondrial and the those who had the mitochondrial and the those who had the mitochondrial and the metabol the metabolic fortitude to metabol the metabolic fortitude to metabol the metabolic fortitude to thrive in the cold rather than suffer thrive in the cold rather than suffer thrive in the cold rather than suffer from it. So there's something ancestral from it. So there's something ancestral from it. So there's something ancestral about this expectation of cold. Now the about this expectation of cold. Now the about this expectation of cold. Now the challenge to that is well you know what challenge to that is well you know what challenge to that is well you know what about these huntergatherer societies about these huntergatherer societies about these huntergatherer societies that live in the Kalahari desert. Human that live in the Kalahari desert. Human that live in the Kalahari desert. Human beings are very adaptable. And I don't beings are very adaptable. And I don't beings are very adaptable. And I don't know this for a fact. So I'm going to know this for a fact. So I'm going to know this for a fact. So I'm going to give you a hypothesis. When your light give you a hypothesis. When your light give you a hypothesis. When your light exposure is on point, so you don't have exposure is on point, so you don't have exposure is on point, so you don't have fluorescent bulbs, you don't have LED fluorescent bulbs, you don't have LED fluorescent bulbs, you don't have LED devices at night. you have good devices at night. you have good devices at night. you have good circadian rhythm, lots of natural circadian rhythm, lots of natural circadian rhythm, lots of natural sunlight. When your diet is on point, sunlight. When your diet is on point, sunlight. When your diet is on point, we're not talking seed oils, you're

20:00we're not talking seed oils, you're we're not talking seed oils, you're getting a lot of animal fats, and during getting a lot of animal fats, and during getting a lot of animal fats, and during the right season, you're getting good the right season, you're getting good the right season, you're getting good fruits, maybe some tubers. So, your fruits, maybe some tubers. So, your fruits, maybe some tubers. So, your light is on point, your diet is on light is on point, your diet is on light is on point, your diet is on point, and your exercise is on point. point, and your exercise is on point. point, and your exercise is on point. Lots of steps. probably you do okay Lots of steps. probably you do okay Lots of steps. probably you do okay metabolically even if your brown fat is metabolically even if your brown fat is metabolically even if your brown fat is minuscule because you don't have regular minuscule because you don't have regular minuscule because you don't have regular cold water exposure. I think there's cold water exposure. I think there's cold water exposure. I think there's nothing about the health of the nothing about the health of the nothing about the health of the huntergatherer societies that huntergatherer societies that huntergatherer societies that contradicts this idea that the human contradicts this idea that the human contradicts this idea that the human body is designed to expect cold body is designed to expect cold body is designed to expect cold exposure. However, when your light is exposure. However, when your light is exposure. However, when your light is not on point because maybe you're a not on point because maybe you're a not on point because maybe you're a college professor who stares at computer college professor who stares at computer college professor who stares at computer screens all day and all night. When your screens all day and all night. When your screens all day and all night. When your sleep is not on point because you happen sleep is not on point because you happen sleep is not on point because you happen to live in an industrialized society to live in an industrialized society to live in an industrialized society where light is practically free and where light is practically free and where light is practically free and people stay up all hours of the night. people stay up all hours of the night. people stay up all hours of the night. When your diet is not on point because When your diet is not on point because When your diet is not on point because people are subsidizing ultra processed people are subsidizing ultra processed people are subsidizing ultra processed foods to put canola oil in there to put

21:00foods to put canola oil in there to put foods to put canola oil in there to put soybean oil and corn oil in there and soybean oil and corn oil in there and soybean oil and corn oil in there and wreck the function of your mitochondrial wreck the function of your mitochondrial wreck the function of your mitochondrial membranes. You're darn right you need membranes. You're darn right you need membranes. You're darn right you need cold brown fat and cold plunge therapy cold brown fat and cold plunge therapy cold brown fat and cold plunge therapy will help you overcome many of the other will help you overcome many of the other will help you overcome many of the other insults to which your mitochondria are insults to which your mitochondria are insults to which your mitochondria are subjected and that can be poor light subjected and that can be poor light subjected and that can be poor light hygiene, too many seed oils, constant hygiene, too many seed oils, constant hygiene, too many seed oils, constant snacking of carbohydrates. In other snacking of carbohydrates. In other snacking of carbohydrates. In other words, the standard American diet and words, the standard American diet and words, the standard American diet and the typical western modern lifestyle. the typical western modern lifestyle. the typical western modern lifestyle. Now, I'm not about to go, you know, live Now, I'm not about to go, you know, live Now, I'm not about to go, you know, live in a cabin in the woods or or go become in a cabin in the woods or or go become in a cabin in the woods or or go become a hunter gatherer in the Kalahari a hunter gatherer in the Kalahari a hunter gatherer in the Kalahari Desert. I like my job. I like being a Desert. I like my job. I like being a Desert. I like my job. I like being a professor. I like living in a modern, professor. I like living in a modern, professor. I like living in a modern, you know, city in the United States. But you know, city in the United States. But you know, city in the United States. But because I'm so disconnected from nature, because I'm so disconnected from nature, because I'm so disconnected from nature, I need to do things that are going to I need to do things that are going to I need to do things that are going to bring the nature back to me. I need the bring the nature back to me. I need the bring the nature back to me. I need the Morasco ice bath because I need cold

22:00Morasco ice bath because I need cold Morasco ice bath because I need cold because I need the grounding. I need the because I need the grounding. I need the because I need the grounding. I need the electrons from the earth that come up electrons from the earth that come up electrons from the earth that come up through the wires that we've built into through the wires that we've built into through the wires that we've built into the Morasco so I get instant electrical the Morasco so I get instant electrical the Morasco so I get instant electrical balancing with the earth when I get in balancing with the earth when I get in balancing with the earth when I get in there. I need the Epsom salt and the there. I need the Epsom salt and the there. I need the Epsom salt and the magnesium and some of the other sulfate magnesium and some of the other sulfate magnesium and some of the other sulfate salts that we put in there so I can get salts that we put in there so I can get salts that we put in there so I can get transermal magnesium absorption to keep transermal magnesium absorption to keep transermal magnesium absorption to keep my metabolism healthy. If you don't get my metabolism healthy. If you don't get my metabolism healthy. If you don't get the good sunshine, for example, well, the good sunshine, for example, well, the good sunshine, for example, well, then you need the red light panel. If then you need the red light panel. If then you need the red light panel. If you can't get out into the forest, then you can't get out into the forest, then you can't get out into the forest, then you need, you know, the green light you need, you know, the green light you need, you know, the green light device because your eyes are relying device because your eyes are relying device because your eyes are relying upon what your ancestors used to get for upon what your ancestors used to get for upon what your ancestors used to get for free. This is why we say Morasco is the free. This is why we say Morasco is the free. This is why we say Morasco is the next best thing to nature. I'd rather next best thing to nature. I'd rather next best thing to nature. I'd rather that you went and jumped in the that you went and jumped in the that you went and jumped in the Mediterranean. You know, that that's Mediterranean. You know, that that's Mediterranean. You know, that that's wonderful. And here's the salt water and wonderful. And here's the salt water and wonderful. And here's the salt water and the cold temperatures. When you can't do the cold temperatures. When you can't do the cold temperatures. When you can't do that, that's when you need moraspo. that, that's when you need moraspo. that, that's when you need moraspo. >> Light influences every single system of

23:00>> Light influences every single system of >> Light influences every single system of your body from mood, skin health, your body from mood, skin health, your body from mood, skin health, cognition, energy levels, gut health, cognition, energy levels, gut health, cognition, energy levels, gut health, sexual function, training performance, sexual function, training performance, sexual function, training performance, recovery, wound healing, body recovery, wound healing, body recovery, wound healing, body composition, and so much more. This is composition, and so much more. This is composition, and so much more. This is why I make sure to block the harmful why I make sure to block the harmful why I make sure to block the harmful artificial blue light and expose myself artificial blue light and expose myself artificial blue light and expose myself to the beneficial wavelengths of light to the beneficial wavelengths of light to the beneficial wavelengths of light to optimize my biology. Upgrade your to optimize my biology. Upgrade your to optimize my biology. Upgrade your biology today by upgrading your light biology today by upgrading your light biology today by upgrading your light environment. Head over to environment. Head over to environment. Head over to emrch.com/mobilityfitness emrch.com/mobilityfitness emrch.com/mobilityfitness and use the promo code mobility fitness and use the promo code mobility fitness and use the promo code mobility fitness for a massive 20% discount at checkout for a massive 20% discount at checkout for a massive 20% discount at checkout for the best red light therapy panels on for the best red light therapy panels on for the best red light therapy panels on the market and the best blue light the market and the best blue light the market and the best blue light blocking glasses. Oh yeah. Oh, it's so blocking glasses. Oh yeah. Oh, it's so blocking glasses. Oh yeah. Oh, it's so important to have these biohacks and important to have these biohacks and important to have these biohacks and tools in our modern living and lifestyle tools in our modern living and lifestyle tools in our modern living and lifestyle because as you mentioned that there are because as you mentioned that there are because as you mentioned that there are so many people who can't get in so many people who can't get in so many people who can't get in connection with nature on a daily basis connection with nature on a daily basis connection with nature on a daily basis and you need to do these practices on a and you need to do these practices on a and you need to do these practices on a daily basis honestly to stay healthy daily basis honestly to stay healthy daily basis honestly to stay healthy because our biology has been designed because our biology has been designed because our biology has been designed that way that we are supposed to be in that way that we are supposed to be in that way that we are supposed to be in connection with nature on a daily basis. connection with nature on a daily basis. connection with nature on a daily basis. Right? So if you don't have some biohack Right? So if you don't have some biohack Right? So if you don't have some biohack or something to replace that in order to

24:00or something to replace that in order to or something to replace that in order to even keep your biology at a baseline you even keep your biology at a baseline you even keep your biology at a baseline you know health level then obviously it's know health level then obviously it's know health level then obviously it's going to deteriorate and decline. I going to deteriorate and decline. I going to deteriorate and decline. I always like to look at the body like a always like to look at the body like a always like to look at the body like a battery, right? So the mitochondria are battery, right? So the mitochondria are battery, right? So the mitochondria are what are fueling that battery and when what are fueling that battery and when what are fueling that battery and when those are not working well then those are not working well then those are not working well then obviously our battery is going to start obviously our battery is going to start obviously our battery is going to start to become depleted. Right? And there are to become depleted. Right? And there are to become depleted. Right? And there are many lifestyle factors especially modern many lifestyle factors especially modern many lifestyle factors especially modern living the blue lights, the EMFs, the living the blue lights, the EMFs, the living the blue lights, the EMFs, the seed oils like you mentioned are all seed oils like you mentioned are all seed oils like you mentioned are all depleting our cellular battery. They are depleting our cellular battery. They are depleting our cellular battery. They are just constantly draining it. So it's so just constantly draining it. So it's so just constantly draining it. So it's so important to be aware of those things important to be aware of those things important to be aware of those things and to not have them in our life in the and to not have them in our life in the and to not have them in our life in the first place or minimize those. but then first place or minimize those. but then first place or minimize those. but then at the same time do the things that are at the same time do the things that are at the same time do the things that are boosting the mitochondrial function boosting the mitochondrial function boosting the mitochondrial function which is basically the ice bath right so which is basically the ice bath right so which is basically the ice bath right so maybe you can talk a little bit about maybe you can talk a little bit about maybe you can talk a little bit about how the ice bath is beneficial for how the ice bath is beneficial for how the ice bath is beneficial for insulin sensitivity how does it actually insulin sensitivity how does it actually insulin sensitivity how does it actually do that and yeah like what's actually do that and yeah like what's actually do that and yeah like what's actually happening when we are exposed to the happening when we are exposed to the happening when we are exposed to the cold where is the glucose going cold where is the glucose going cold where is the glucose going >> insulin resistance is at the origin of

25:00>> insulin resistance is at the origin of >> insulin resistance is at the origin of every single leading cause of death from every single leading cause of death from every single leading cause of death from chronic illness in the United States. So chronic illness in the United States. So chronic illness in the United States. So you could say, well, what about cancer? you could say, well, what about cancer? you could say, well, what about cancer? Strongly associated with insulin Strongly associated with insulin Strongly associated with insulin resistance. Cancer is a metabolic resistance. Cancer is a metabolic resistance. Cancer is a metabolic disorder that originates in dysfunction disorder that originates in dysfunction disorder that originates in dysfunction of the mitochondria. You can say, well, of the mitochondria. You can say, well, of the mitochondria. You can say, well, what about heart disease? The what about heart disease? The what about heart disease? The association between insulin resistance association between insulin resistance association between insulin resistance and death from heart disease is very and death from heart disease is very and death from heart disease is very strong. Alzheimer's, Alzheimer's is now strong. Alzheimer's, Alzheimer's is now strong. Alzheimer's, Alzheimer's is now called type three diabetes. It is a called type three diabetes. It is a called type three diabetes. It is a mitochondrial disorder in the metabolism mitochondrial disorder in the metabolism mitochondrial disorder in the metabolism of the brain. Every single leading cause of the brain. Every single leading cause of the brain. Every single leading cause of death from chronic illness in the of death from chronic illness in the of death from chronic illness in the United States originates in United States originates in United States originates in mitochondrial dysfunction that can be mitochondrial dysfunction that can be mitochondrial dysfunction that can be characterized or expressed as insulin characterized or expressed as insulin characterized or expressed as insulin resistance. So people think insulin resistance. So people think insulin resistance. So people think insulin resistance is the problem. We got to get resistance is the problem. We got to get resistance is the problem. We got to get your insulin levels down without raising your insulin levels down without raising your insulin levels down without raising your hypoglycemic that without raising your hypoglycemic that without raising your hypoglycemic that without raising your blood sugar until you become your blood sugar until you become your blood sugar until you become hypoglycemic. That's sort of an okay

26:00hypoglycemic. That's sort of an okay hypoglycemic. That's sort of an okay thought but it is misguided. One of the thought but it is misguided. One of the thought but it is misguided. One of the things that a type 2 diabetic in the things that a type 2 diabetic in the things that a type 2 diabetic in the United States is likely to experience is United States is likely to experience is United States is likely to experience is a recommendation or prescription for a recommendation or prescription for a recommendation or prescription for metformin. You take the metformin and metformin. You take the metformin and metformin. You take the metformin and laboratory studies especially in animal laboratory studies especially in animal laboratory studies especially in animal models like rats and mice will show that models like rats and mice will show that models like rats and mice will show that metformin decreases blood glucose levels metformin decreases blood glucose levels metformin decreases blood glucose levels and say oh we should give this to the and say oh we should give this to the and say oh we should give this to the type 2 diabetics. The problem is that type 2 diabetics. The problem is that type 2 diabetics. The problem is that metformin is a mitochondrial toxin. You metformin is a mitochondrial toxin. You metformin is a mitochondrial toxin. You can temporarily stimulate mitochondrial can temporarily stimulate mitochondrial can temporarily stimulate mitochondrial function by giving a body metformin. And function by giving a body metformin. And function by giving a body metformin. And that increased mitochondrial function that increased mitochondrial function that increased mitochondrial function will reduce blood sugar levels. But you will reduce blood sugar levels. But you will reduce blood sugar levels. But you do it at the expense of the mitochondria do it at the expense of the mitochondria do it at the expense of the mitochondria and not in support of the mitochondria. and not in support of the mitochondria. and not in support of the mitochondria. Which is why people find themselves Which is why people find themselves Which is why people find themselves taking larger doses and larger doses taking larger doses and larger doses taking larger doses and larger doses over time. They say, you know, it's not over time. They say, you know, it's not over time. They say, you know, it's not working anymore. Perhaps I should take working anymore. Perhaps I should take working anymore. Perhaps I should take more. but they wind up ruining their

27:00more. but they wind up ruining their more. but they wind up ruining their mitochondria. Insulin resistance is not mitochondria. Insulin resistance is not mitochondria. Insulin resistance is not the problem. Insulin resistance is your the problem. Insulin resistance is your the problem. Insulin resistance is your body searching for a solution to body searching for a solution to body searching for a solution to mitochondrial dysfunction. When the mitochondrial dysfunction. When the mitochondrial dysfunction. When the mitochondria are overwhelmed with mitochondria are overwhelmed with mitochondria are overwhelmed with carbohydrates, carbohydrates, carbohydrates, the cell becomes resistant to the action the cell becomes resistant to the action the cell becomes resistant to the action of insulin. It says, "I'm going to keep of insulin. It says, "I'm going to keep of insulin. It says, "I'm going to keep that glucose in the bloodstream for a that glucose in the bloodstream for a that glucose in the bloodstream for a little while. are going to slow down the little while. are going to slow down the little while. are going to slow down the rate at which you're processing it rate at which you're processing it rate at which you're processing it because the processing of glucose into because the processing of glucose into because the processing of glucose into ATP will produce reactive oxygen species ATP will produce reactive oxygen species ATP will produce reactive oxygen species inside the cell right at the inside the cell right at the inside the cell right at the mitochondria and those ROS can be a good mitochondria and those ROS can be a good mitochondria and those ROS can be a good thing. They can stimulate new thing. They can stimulate new thing. They can stimulate new mitochondria. They can stimulate mitochondria. They can stimulate mitochondria. They can stimulate mitobiogenesis mitobiogenesis mitobiogenesis but only when the mitochondria get a but only when the mitochondria get a but only when the mitochondria get a break that is stress and recovery. break that is stress and recovery. break that is stress and recovery. That's what the mitochondria needs. Like That's what the mitochondria needs. Like That's what the mitochondria needs. Like anything else, anything else, anything else, >> when they are subjected to a constant >> when they are subjected to a constant >> when they are subjected to a constant stream of carbohydrates and a constant stream of carbohydrates and a constant stream of carbohydrates and a constant production of ROS, they never get the

28:00production of ROS, they never get the production of ROS, they never get the recovery. They become dysfunctional. And recovery. They become dysfunctional. And recovery. They become dysfunctional. And the cell responds by resisting the the cell responds by resisting the the cell responds by resisting the action of insulin. The way to fix action of insulin. The way to fix action of insulin. The way to fix insulin resistance is not to overwhelm insulin resistance is not to overwhelm insulin resistance is not to overwhelm the mitochondria, but to support the the mitochondria, but to support the the mitochondria, but to support the mitochondria. magnesium, mitochondria. magnesium, mitochondria. magnesium, red light, cold therapy, sleep. All of red light, cold therapy, sleep. All of red light, cold therapy, sleep. All of these things will give the mitochondria these things will give the mitochondria these things will give the mitochondria the support they need rather than the support they need rather than the support they need rather than reducing blood glucose levels at their reducing blood glucose levels at their reducing blood glucose levels at their expense, they when the mitochondria have expense, they when the mitochondria have expense, they when the mitochondria have that necessary support, they're better that necessary support, they're better that necessary support, they're better prepared to process the carbohydrates. prepared to process the carbohydrates. prepared to process the carbohydrates. Ketosis is another one. Intermittent Ketosis is another one. Intermittent Ketosis is another one. Intermittent fasting is another one. Giving your body fasting is another one. Giving your body fasting is another one. Giving your body a break from those carbs will help your a break from those carbs will help your a break from those carbs will help your body restore the mitochondrial function. body restore the mitochondrial function. body restore the mitochondrial function. Going back to the animal models, Going back to the animal models, Going back to the animal models, researchers took mice and they said, researchers took mice and they said, researchers took mice and they said, "Okay, let's see what happens when we "Okay, let's see what happens when we "Okay, let's see what happens when we give them periodic, that is intermittent give them periodic, that is intermittent give them periodic, that is intermittent acute cold exposure, not chronic cold acute cold exposure, not chronic cold acute cold exposure, not chronic cold exposure." Many of the studies on mice

29:00exposure." Many of the studies on mice exposure." Many of the studies on mice have been mice housed at a cold have been mice housed at a cold have been mice housed at a cold temperature without any break. But just temperature without any break. But just temperature without any break. But just for a few hours a day, let's give these for a few hours a day, let's give these for a few hours a day, let's give these mice some cold and then allow them to mice some cold and then allow them to mice some cold and then allow them to recover. What they discover is that it recover. What they discover is that it recover. What they discover is that it stimulates mopagi which is removal of stimulates mopagi which is removal of stimulates mopagi which is removal of broken mitochondria and mobbiogenesis broken mitochondria and mobbiogenesis broken mitochondria and mobbiogenesis their replacement by new mitochondria. their replacement by new mitochondria. their replacement by new mitochondria. >> Exercise will support mitochondrial >> Exercise will support mitochondrial >> Exercise will support mitochondrial function. But the best way to improve function. But the best way to improve function. But the best way to improve the function of your mitochondria is to the function of your mitochondria is to the function of your mitochondria is to give it cold. This is like a workout for give it cold. This is like a workout for give it cold. This is like a workout for the micro sorry cold is like a workout the micro sorry cold is like a workout the micro sorry cold is like a workout for the mitochondria in particular in for the mitochondria in particular in for the mitochondria in particular in your brown fat. Brown fat are packed your brown fat. Brown fat are packed your brown fat. Brown fat are packed with mitochondria. So when you recruit with mitochondria. So when you recruit with mitochondria. So when you recruit new brown fat you do it by white fat new brown fat you do it by white fat new brown fat you do it by white fat cells that is adding mitochondria to the cells that is adding mitochondria to the cells that is adding mitochondria to the white fat cells. Where are those white fat cells. Where are those white fat cells. Where are those mitochondria coming from? Reproduction mitochondria coming from? Reproduction mitochondria coming from? Reproduction proliferation. Your body knows how to proliferation. Your body knows how to proliferation. Your body knows how to select the highest quality mitochondria

30:00select the highest quality mitochondria select the highest quality mitochondria and make new ones from them. And so in and make new ones from them. And so in and make new ones from them. And so in this way, cold therapy is like reversing this way, cold therapy is like reversing this way, cold therapy is like reversing your biological clock. Many of the your biological clock. Many of the your biological clock. Many of the phenomena that are associated ordinarily phenomena that are associated ordinarily phenomena that are associated ordinarily with aging. Um testosterone is one of with aging. Um testosterone is one of with aging. Um testosterone is one of them. Your doctor might say a man's them. Your doctor might say a man's them. Your doctor might say a man's testosterone inevitably declines with testosterone inevitably declines with testosterone inevitably declines with age. Well, that's a bunch of crap. To age. Well, that's a bunch of crap. To age. Well, that's a bunch of crap. To the extent that a man accumulates the extent that a man accumulates the extent that a man accumulates mitochondrial injury or that a man's mitochondrial injury or that a man's mitochondrial injury or that a man's mitochondria deteriorate over time mitochondria deteriorate over time mitochondria deteriorate over time because he's not taking care of them, because he's not taking care of them, because he's not taking care of them, yes, testosterone will come down. But yes, testosterone will come down. But yes, testosterone will come down. But that kind of aging is optional. When you that kind of aging is optional. When you that kind of aging is optional. When you take good care of your mitochondria, take good care of your mitochondria, take good care of your mitochondria, they take good care of you. Your body they take good care of you. Your body they take good care of you. Your body responds ordinarily to the cold with responds ordinarily to the cold with responds ordinarily to the cold with muscle shivering. We're all familiar muscle shivering. We're all familiar muscle shivering. We're all familiar with this, but that's only because you with this, but that's only because you with this, but that's only because you don't have the brown fat. When your body don't have the brown fat. When your body don't have the brown fat. When your body recruits the brown fat, you will no recruits the brown fat, you will no recruits the brown fat, you will no longer shiver to the same extent in the longer shiver to the same extent in the longer shiver to the same extent in the cold. So we tell people who are just cold. So we tell people who are just cold. So we tell people who are just starting a cold, starting a cold, starting a cold, >> go cold enough to gasp so you feel that

31:00>> go cold enough to gasp so you feel that >> go cold enough to gasp so you feel that gasp reflex and then go long enough to gasp reflex and then go long enough to gasp reflex and then go long enough to shiver. But after about two weeks, you shiver. But after about two weeks, you shiver. But after about two weeks, you don't need to shiver anymore. Your body don't need to shiver anymore. Your body don't need to shiver anymore. Your body has recruited the brown fat. Just has recruited the brown fat. Just has recruited the brown fat. Just getting into the cold and feeling the getting into the cold and feeling the getting into the cold and feeling the gas reflex will activate your brown fat. gas reflex will activate your brown fat. gas reflex will activate your brown fat. It will stimulate mitobiogenesis. It will stimulate mitobiogenesis. It will stimulate mitobiogenesis. Don't stay in too long. Go very cold. As Don't stay in too long. Go very cold. As Don't stay in too long. Go very cold. As cold as you can uh stand it and still cold as you can uh stand it and still cold as you can uh stand it and still get that gasp reflex and just stay in get that gasp reflex and just stay in get that gasp reflex and just stay in for a couple or four minutes. That's all for a couple or four minutes. That's all for a couple or four minutes. That's all I do. That's how to keep your metabolism I do. That's how to keep your metabolism I do. That's how to keep your metabolism healthy. healthy. healthy. >> Wow, that's amazing. Yeah, I've actually >> Wow, that's amazing. Yeah, I've actually >> Wow, that's amazing. Yeah, I've actually noticed that myself as well that because noticed that myself as well that because noticed that myself as well that because here I always get in the sea. I live by here I always get in the sea. I live by here I always get in the sea. I live by the sea like super close like 50 mters the sea like super close like 50 mters the sea like super close like 50 mters and I get in every single day, right? and I get in every single day, right? and I get in every single day, right? And I I do this all year round on And I I do this all year round on And I I do this all year round on purpose because I want to keep that purpose because I want to keep that purpose because I want to keep that brown fat active and I know that cold is brown fat active and I know that cold is brown fat active and I know that cold is so beneficial for me. And and um is so beneficial for me. And and um is so beneficial for me. And and um is there any like benefit to doing longer there any like benefit to doing longer there any like benefit to doing longer times, especially when the temperature times, especially when the temperature times, especially when the temperature of the water is not that cold? Because of the water is not that cold? Because of the water is not that cold? Because the lowest it gets here in Cypress in the lowest it gets here in Cypress in the lowest it gets here in Cypress in the winter time is like 55° Fahrenheit,

32:00the winter time is like 55° Fahrenheit, the winter time is like 55° Fahrenheit, which is honestly not that cold, you which is honestly not that cold, you which is honestly not that cold, you know? It's not freezing, right? So know? It's not freezing, right? So know? It's not freezing, right? So >> Yeah. Yeah. Exactly. So, it's it's >> Yeah. Yeah. Exactly. So, it's it's >> Yeah. Yeah. Exactly. So, it's it's basically just enough to stimulate basically just enough to stimulate basically just enough to stimulate something. something. something. >> Anything warmer than about 40°, I get >> Anything warmer than about 40°, I get >> Anything warmer than about 40°, I get bored. bored. bored. >> Um, and so I'm trying to think of what >> Um, and so I'm trying to think of what >> Um, and so I'm trying to think of what that is in Celsius. I don't know, maybe that is in Celsius. I don't know, maybe that is in Celsius. I don't know, maybe seven or eight degrees Celsius is boring seven or eight degrees Celsius is boring seven or eight degrees Celsius is boring for me. You must go cold enough to get for me. You must go cold enough to get for me. You must go cold enough to get that gasp reflex or you're not that gasp reflex or you're not that gasp reflex or you're not activating the parasympathetic division activating the parasympathetic division activating the parasympathetic division of the autonomic nervous system. Brown of the autonomic nervous system. Brown of the autonomic nervous system. Brown fat, unlike white fat, it's highly fat, unlike white fat, it's highly fat, unlike white fat, it's highly enervated. Well, what are all those enervated. Well, what are all those enervated. Well, what are all those nerve endings doing in your brown fat? nerve endings doing in your brown fat? nerve endings doing in your brown fat? They're not there to feel pain or They're not there to feel pain or They're not there to feel pain or something. They are there to communicate something. They are there to communicate something. They are there to communicate with the brown fat. The the body can't with the brown fat. The the body can't with the brown fat. The the body can't wait for the brown fat to sense that wait for the brown fat to sense that wait for the brown fat to sense that you're in the cold environment. Those you're in the cold environment. Those you're in the cold environment. Those thermal receptors are in the skin, thermal receptors are in the skin, thermal receptors are in the skin, whereas the brown fat is inside the body whereas the brown fat is inside the body whereas the brown fat is inside the body where it's going to keep your vital where it's going to keep your vital where it's going to keep your vital organs warm. The body can't wait. As organs warm. The body can't wait. As organs warm. The body can't wait. As soon as your skin senses the cold, it

33:00soon as your skin senses the cold, it soon as your skin senses the cold, it will send a signal through the nervous will send a signal through the nervous will send a signal through the nervous system to turn the brown fat on and system to turn the brown fat on and system to turn the brown fat on and that's going to keep your vital organs, that's going to keep your vital organs, that's going to keep your vital organs, especially your brain and your heart especially your brain and your heart especially your brain and your heart warm even when you're in the cold. But warm even when you're in the cold. But warm even when you're in the cold. But if you don't feel that gas reflex, if if you don't feel that gas reflex, if if you don't feel that gas reflex, if you're waiting into the Mediterranean, you're waiting into the Mediterranean, you're waiting into the Mediterranean, you're like, "Oh, you know, this is you're like, "Oh, you know, this is you're like, "Oh, you know, this is great." Then you are not signaling your great." Then you are not signaling your great." Then you are not signaling your nervous system. your brown fat is nervous system. your brown fat is nervous system. your brown fat is sitting around going, "Hey, Andreas, sitting around going, "Hey, Andreas, sitting around going, "Hey, Andreas, when are you gonna find some real cold when are you gonna find some real cold when are you gonna find some real cold and it's not getting that stimulation?" and it's not getting that stimulation?" and it's not getting that stimulation?" >> Yeah. So, what I was actually gonna say >> Yeah. So, what I was actually gonna say >> Yeah. So, what I was actually gonna say was that was that was that >> for long enough, >> for long enough, >> for long enough, >> sorry. >> sorry. >> sorry. >> If you stay in there for long enough and >> If you stay in there for long enough and >> If you stay in there for long enough and you and if you stay in there for long you and if you stay in there for long you and if you stay in there for long enough and you do find yourself enough and you do find yourself enough and you do find yourself shivering, then you know you have shivering, then you know you have shivering, then you know you have activated your brown fat even if you activated your brown fat even if you activated your brown fat even if you didn't get the gas reflex. And it might didn't get the gas reflex. And it might didn't get the gas reflex. And it might take a long time. Um yeah, I did find take a long time. Um yeah, I did find take a long time. Um yeah, I did find that actually at the beginning when I that actually at the beginning when I that actually at the beginning when I started doing that because I was living started doing that because I was living started doing that because I was living in Costa Rica at some point and then we in Costa Rica at some point and then we in Costa Rica at some point and then we came back to Cyprus in the winter time came back to Cyprus in the winter time came back to Cyprus in the winter time and then I started doing the cold and and then I started doing the cold and and then I started doing the cold and then I noticed that okay I was really

34:00then I noticed that okay I was really then I noticed that okay I was really shivering at the beginning when I was shivering at the beginning when I was shivering at the beginning when I was doing it even though I was you know I doing it even though I was you know I doing it even though I was you know I just wasn't conditioned to doing it and just wasn't conditioned to doing it and just wasn't conditioned to doing it and then afterwards after a while because then afterwards after a while because then afterwards after a while because I'd been doing it the whole year round I'd been doing it the whole year round I'd been doing it the whole year round when the next winter came around I when the next winter came around I when the next winter came around I wasn't shivering at all. I had no wasn't shivering at all. I had no wasn't shivering at all. I had no shivers and I could stay 20 30 minutes shivers and I could stay 20 30 minutes shivers and I could stay 20 30 minutes and I was like I don't feel anything but and I was like I don't feel anything but and I was like I don't feel anything but it was cold. It it did feel kind of it was cold. It it did feel kind of it was cold. It it did feel kind of uncomfortable. I but I didn't get the uncomfortable. I but I didn't get the uncomfortable. I but I didn't get the shivering feeling though. shivering feeling though. shivering feeling though. >> If you I don't know if you had this >> If you I don't know if you had this >> If you I don't know if you had this experience uh when you were a child but experience uh when you were a child but experience uh when you were a child but if you watch children they don't care if you watch children they don't care if you watch children they don't care how cold it is. They just want to go in how cold it is. They just want to go in how cold it is. They just want to go in the beach. They want to play in the the beach. They want to play in the the beach. They want to play in the water and their teeth might even be water and their teeth might even be water and their teeth might even be shivering but they don't want to come shivering but they don't want to come shivering but they don't want to come out of the water cuz they're having such out of the water cuz they're having such out of the water cuz they're having such a great time. And then the parents are a great time. And then the parents are a great time. And then the parents are like no no it's too cold for you. The like no no it's too cold for you. The like no no it's too cold for you. The parents don't have the brown fat, but parents don't have the brown fat, but parents don't have the brown fat, but the children do. And so they can be much the children do. And so they can be much the children do. And so they can be much more comfortable in the cold weather more comfortable in the cold weather more comfortable in the cold weather than the parents, who aren't getting than the parents, who aren't getting than the parents, who aren't getting cold anymore, ever could be. And I cold anymore, ever could be. And I cold anymore, ever could be. And I remember this when I was a kid and it remember this when I was a kid and it remember this when I was a kid and it was at the very beginning of the summer. was at the very beginning of the summer. was at the very beginning of the summer. You know, the first day mom would take

35:00You know, the first day mom would take You know, the first day mom would take us to the beach and we would go run into us to the beach and we would go run into us to the beach and we would go run into the water and we would play in there for the water and we would play in there for the water and we would play in there for hours. We didn't care how cold it was. hours. We didn't care how cold it was. hours. We didn't care how cold it was. Unfortunately, we also got sunburned Unfortunately, we also got sunburned Unfortunately, we also got sunburned because my mother was one of those because my mother was one of those because my mother was one of those people that thought margarine was people that thought margarine was people that thought margarine was healthier for us than, you know, butter healthier for us than, you know, butter healthier for us than, you know, butter fat was. My mother had some really weird fat was. My mother had some really weird fat was. My mother had some really weird ideas that she mostly got from Harvard ideas that she mostly got from Harvard ideas that she mostly got from Harvard University propaganda about what to feed University propaganda about what to feed University propaganda about what to feed her children. I was raised on white her children. I was raised on white her children. I was raised on white toast and Lucky Charms. It no wonder I toast and Lucky Charms. It no wonder I toast and Lucky Charms. It no wonder I wound up fat. the the nutritional wound up fat. the the nutritional wound up fat. the the nutritional misconceptions that my mother, which was misconceptions that my mother, which was misconceptions that my mother, which was all propaganda, was told were not good all propaganda, was told were not good all propaganda, was told were not good for me. But taking me to and my sisters for me. But taking me to and my sisters for me. But taking me to and my sisters to the beach to let me run around in the to the beach to let me run around in the to the beach to let me run around in the cold repaired my metabolism, repaired a cold repaired my metabolism, repaired a cold repaired my metabolism, repaired a lot of the damage that had been done by lot of the damage that had been done by lot of the damage that had been done by a winter's worth of eating, you know, a winter's worth of eating, you know, a winter's worth of eating, you know, marshmallows for breakfast. M so by marshmallows for breakfast. M so by marshmallows for breakfast. M so by being exposed to the cold then we're being exposed to the cold then we're being exposed to the cold then we're actually improving the insulin actually improving the insulin actually improving the insulin sensitivity by increasing the amount of

36:00sensitivity by increasing the amount of sensitivity by increasing the amount of mitochondria that we have and increasing mitochondria that we have and increasing mitochondria that we have and increasing the brown fat which is higher in the brown fat which is higher in the brown fat which is higher in mitochondria. So basically we have more mitochondria. So basically we have more mitochondria. So basically we have more factories to process more of that factories to process more of that factories to process more of that floating substrate that is available in floating substrate that is available in floating substrate that is available in the bloodstream you know so it's getting the bloodstream you know so it's getting the bloodstream you know so it's getting processed more efficiently. Um is it processed more efficiently. Um is it processed more efficiently. Um is it also going indirectly like um insulin also going indirectly like um insulin also going indirectly like um insulin independent into the muscle as well via independent into the muscle as well via independent into the muscle as well via the glute 4 receptor? Is is anything the glute 4 receptor? Is is anything the glute 4 receptor? Is is anything like that happening as well? like that happening as well? like that happening as well? >> There are mechanisms by which glucose >> There are mechanisms by which glucose >> There are mechanisms by which glucose can enter the cell without insulin. can enter the cell without insulin. can enter the cell without insulin. Those mechanisms are insufficient to Those mechanisms are insufficient to Those mechanisms are insufficient to maintain normal glucose levels. And so maintain normal glucose levels. And so maintain normal glucose levels. And so I'm not an expert on the glute 4. We I'm not an expert on the glute 4. We I'm not an expert on the glute 4. We should talk to Ben Bickman about this. should talk to Ben Bickman about this. should talk to Ben Bickman about this. You know, how does the cell metabolize You know, how does the cell metabolize You know, how does the cell metabolize when insulin levels are very low. But when insulin levels are very low. But when insulin levels are very low. But one of the mechanisms that I am familiar one of the mechanisms that I am familiar one of the mechanisms that I am familiar with is ketosis. Ketones are a with is ketosis. Ketones are a with is ketosis. Ketones are a intermediary metabolic product of fat

37:00intermediary metabolic product of fat intermediary metabolic product of fat metabolism. Ketones do not need insulin metabolism. Ketones do not need insulin metabolism. Ketones do not need insulin to enter the cell. And so the classic to enter the cell. And so the classic to enter the cell. And so the classic mechanism that your body has to mechanism that your body has to mechanism that your body has to metabolize in a low carbohydrate metabolize in a low carbohydrate metabolize in a low carbohydrate environment is to burn fat. And ketones environment is to burn fat. And ketones environment is to burn fat. And ketones will fuel the brain. They cross the will fuel the brain. They cross the will fuel the brain. They cross the blood brain barrier and keep your brain blood brain barrier and keep your brain blood brain barrier and keep your brain um fired up while you're on a fat um fired up while you're on a fat um fired up while you're on a fat metabolism. and you maintain through metabolism. and you maintain through metabolism. and you maintain through gluconneogenesis a minimum level of gluconneogenesis a minimum level of gluconneogenesis a minimum level of blood glucose which could just be 50 or blood glucose which could just be 50 or blood glucose which could just be 50 or 60. We've discovered that people in 60. We've discovered that people in 60. We've discovered that people in ketosis do not experience the symptoms ketosis do not experience the symptoms ketosis do not experience the symptoms of hypoglycemia or low blood sugar at of hypoglycemia or low blood sugar at of hypoglycemia or low blood sugar at the same levels that people who are not the same levels that people who are not the same levels that people who are not metabolically flexible will begin to metabolically flexible will begin to metabolically flexible will begin to experience brain fog or a loss of experience brain fog or a loss of experience brain fog or a loss of proprioception or or other proprioception or or other proprioception or or other characteristics of hypoglycemia. characteristics of hypoglycemia. characteristics of hypoglycemia. When you're in ketosis, you can tolerate

38:00When you're in ketosis, you can tolerate When you're in ketosis, you can tolerate very low insulin levels and very low uh very low insulin levels and very low uh very low insulin levels and very low uh blood sugar levels and still maintain blood sugar levels and still maintain blood sugar levels and still maintain good brain and muscle function. So good brain and muscle function. So good brain and muscle function. So rather than think about how could blood rather than think about how could blood rather than think about how could blood glucose enter the cell without insulin, glucose enter the cell without insulin, glucose enter the cell without insulin, I've thought a lot about what do we do I've thought a lot about what do we do I've thought a lot about what do we do in a low insulin and low carbohydrate in a low insulin and low carbohydrate in a low insulin and low carbohydrate environment? That's called ketosis. The environment? That's called ketosis. The environment? That's called ketosis. The fastest way to stimulate production of fastest way to stimulate production of fastest way to stimulate production of ketones in your own body is to get into ketones in your own body is to get into ketones in your own body is to get into the ice bath because you get that the ice bath because you get that the ice bath because you get that parasympathetic activation and your parasympathetic activation and your parasympathetic activation and your liver will release glycogen into the liver will release glycogen into the liver will release glycogen into the bloodstream. There will be an immediate bloodstream. There will be an immediate bloodstream. There will be an immediate blood sugar spike as a result of that blood sugar spike as a result of that blood sugar spike as a result of that fightor-flight response to the cold, but fightor-flight response to the cold, but fightor-flight response to the cold, but it only lasts 20 or 30 seconds. Your it only lasts 20 or 30 seconds. Your it only lasts 20 or 30 seconds. Your brown fat burns through glucose almost brown fat burns through glucose almost brown fat burns through glucose almost immediately. And so the white fat cells immediately. And so the white fat cells immediately. And so the white fat cells will open up and they will release free will open up and they will release free will open up and they will release free fatty acids, triglyceride. They'll fatty acids, triglyceride. They'll fatty acids, triglyceride. They'll release lipids into your bloodstream so release lipids into your bloodstream so release lipids into your bloodstream so that they can travel to your

39:00that they can travel to your that they can travel to your mitochondria and your mitochondria will mitochondria and your mitochondria will mitochondria and your mitochondria will begin burning fat almost right away to begin burning fat almost right away to begin burning fat almost right away to fuel the non-shivering thermogenesis fuel the non-shivering thermogenesis fuel the non-shivering thermogenesis that will elevate your ketone levels. So that will elevate your ketone levels. So that will elevate your ketone levels. So one of the advantages of having a one of the advantages of having a one of the advantages of having a regular ice bath practice is increased regular ice bath practice is increased regular ice bath practice is increased metabolic flexibility. Now, you don't metabolic flexibility. Now, you don't metabolic flexibility. Now, you don't need three days of, you know, 20 need three days of, you know, 20 need three days of, you know, 20 carbohydrates a day to get yourself into carbohydrates a day to get yourself into carbohydrates a day to get yourself into ketosis. You can do it in a matter of ketosis. You can do it in a matter of ketosis. You can do it in a matter of hours because you've got an ice bath to hours because you've got an ice bath to hours because you've got an ice bath to burn through all the excess glucose, to burn through all the excess glucose, to burn through all the excess glucose, to burn through the glycogen stores in your burn through the glycogen stores in your burn through the glycogen stores in your liver and move you to ketosis almost liver and move you to ketosis almost liver and move you to ketosis almost immediately. immediately. immediately. >> Wow, that's incredible. Yeah, because >> Wow, that's incredible. Yeah, because >> Wow, that's incredible. Yeah, because metabolic flexibility is so important, metabolic flexibility is so important, metabolic flexibility is so important, right? Because your ability to be able right? Because your ability to be able right? Because your ability to be able to utilize both substrates is absolutely to utilize both substrates is absolutely to utilize both substrates is absolutely essential. And we know that it's not essential. And we know that it's not essential. And we know that it's not only governed by diet as you're only governed by diet as you're only governed by diet as you're explaining environmental factors such as explaining environmental factors such as explaining environmental factors such as temperature is a huge huge factor, but temperature is a huge huge factor, but temperature is a huge huge factor, but also the light environment we're exposed also the light environment we're exposed also the light environment we're exposed to as well because we know the to as well because we know the to as well because we know the artificial blue light can spike our artificial blue light can spike our artificial blue light can spike our insulin levels and can make us release

40:00insulin levels and can make us release insulin levels and can make us release glucose as well because it's actually glucose as well because it's actually glucose as well because it's actually activating that sympathetic fight and activating that sympathetic fight and activating that sympathetic fight and flight state. And so we know that flight state. And so we know that flight state. And so we know that basically our metabolic health is basically our metabolic health is basically our metabolic health is governed by the light environment, the governed by the light environment, the governed by the light environment, the the presence or the absence of oxygen. the presence or the absence of oxygen. the presence or the absence of oxygen. So the type of metabolism we're using, So the type of metabolism we're using, So the type of metabolism we're using, aerobic versus anorobic, and also aerobic versus anorobic, and also aerobic versus anorobic, and also temperature. That's basically what I'm temperature. That's basically what I'm temperature. That's basically what I'm understanding here. There are these understanding here. There are these understanding here. There are these three factors at play. And when we are three factors at play. And when we are three factors at play. And when we are able to manipulate those to our able to manipulate those to our able to manipulate those to our advantage, we're able to stay more advantage, we're able to stay more advantage, we're able to stay more metabolically healthy and and more metabolically healthy and and more metabolically healthy and and more flexible and be able to switch between flexible and be able to switch between flexible and be able to switch between those different substrates more those different substrates more those different substrates more efficiently. Whereas modern living efficiently. Whereas modern living efficiently. Whereas modern living because of the comfort that we are because of the comfort that we are because of the comfort that we are experiencing and because we like we like experiencing and because we like we like experiencing and because we like we like to be comfortable, we're also becoming to be comfortable, we're also becoming to be comfortable, we're also becoming metabolically inflexible while at the metabolically inflexible while at the metabolically inflexible while at the same time over consuming same time over consuming same time over consuming glycogen rich foods which are maybe not glycogen rich foods which are maybe not glycogen rich foods which are maybe not even grown at our you know latitude or even grown at our you know latitude or even grown at our you know latitude or even season. And then that's even season. And then that's even season. And then that's overwhelming the mitochondria causing overwhelming the mitochondria causing overwhelming the mitochondria causing mitochondrial damage and therefore not mitochondrial damage and therefore not mitochondrial damage and therefore not even able to process that energy you

41:00even able to process that energy you even able to process that energy you know even even more. So it's actually know even even more. So it's actually know even even more. So it's actually becoming even more of a problem because becoming even more of a problem because becoming even more of a problem because we have damaged mitochondria. We don't we have damaged mitochondria. We don't we have damaged mitochondria. We don't have new mitochondria forming and this have new mitochondria forming and this have new mitochondria forming and this is why it's so important to have tools is why it's so important to have tools is why it's so important to have tools like the ice to be able to restore the like the ice to be able to restore the like the ice to be able to restore the balance basically in the system. So you balance basically in the system. So you balance basically in the system. So you mentioned a little bit about the mentioned a little bit about the mentioned a little bit about the reactive oxygen species and this is a reactive oxygen species and this is a reactive oxygen species and this is a very interesting topic because we know very interesting topic because we know very interesting topic because we know that the ROS is like a signaling that the ROS is like a signaling that the ROS is like a signaling molecule because it's not only yes it molecule because it's not only yes it molecule because it's not only yes it can be damaging in excess but as you can be damaging in excess but as you can be damaging in excess but as you said it can be as a signaling molecule said it can be as a signaling molecule said it can be as a signaling molecule right for the mitochondrial biogenesis. right for the mitochondrial biogenesis. right for the mitochondrial biogenesis. So maybe we can talk a bit about the So maybe we can talk a bit about the So maybe we can talk a bit about the biopotons if you know about that topic biopotons if you know about that topic biopotons if you know about that topic you know and how that actually you know and how that actually you know and how that actually contributes to the formation of vitamin contributes to the formation of vitamin contributes to the formation of vitamin D and actually how cold can be a D and actually how cold can be a D and actually how cold can be a supplement for vitamin D in the winter supplement for vitamin D in the winter supplement for vitamin D in the winter when we have an absence of UV light from when we have an absence of UV light from when we have an absence of UV light from our environment. our environment. our environment. >> You are correct. The mitochondria make >> You are correct. The mitochondria make >> You are correct. The mitochondria make light inside the cell. They can't help light inside the cell. They can't help light inside the cell. They can't help it. The electron transport chain is a

42:00it. The electron transport chain is a it. The electron transport chain is a series of what are called redux series of what are called redux series of what are called redux reactions. So you're moving electrons reactions. So you're moving electrons reactions. So you're moving electrons from one molecule to another molecule from one molecule to another molecule from one molecule to another molecule from one state to another state. And the from one state to another state. And the from one state to another state. And the physics of electrons requires the physics of electrons requires the physics of electrons requires the release of light as the electrons are release of light as the electrons are release of light as the electrons are moving between different states. Some of moving between different states. Some of moving between different states. Some of that light made inside the cell where that light made inside the cell where that light made inside the cell where the mitochondria are housed is in the the mitochondria are housed is in the the mitochondria are housed is in the UVB wavelength. And so you might say, UVB wavelength. And so you might say, UVB wavelength. And so you might say, well, it's very faint, you know, and and well, it's very faint, you know, and and well, it's very faint, you know, and and our sensors have a very difficult time our sensors have a very difficult time our sensors have a very difficult time detecting it. And that's true because we detecting it. And that's true because we detecting it. And that's true because we don't have sensors inside the cell. When don't have sensors inside the cell. When don't have sensors inside the cell. When the light is produced right there inside the light is produced right there inside the light is produced right there inside the body, you can't think of the same the body, you can't think of the same the body, you can't think of the same intensity expectations because that intensity expectations because that intensity expectations because that photon, which might not be the right photon, which might not be the right photon, which might not be the right word, that light at about the 312 word, that light at about the 312 word, that light at about the 312 nanometer wavelength made inside the nanometer wavelength made inside the nanometer wavelength made inside the mitochondria will intersect cholesterol. mitochondria will intersect cholesterol. mitochondria will intersect cholesterol. It cannot help it. And when that It cannot help it. And when that It cannot help it. And when that happens, this is not enzyatically

43:00happens, this is not enzyatically happens, this is not enzyatically governed. This is a purely physical governed. This is a purely physical governed. This is a purely physical reaction. The UVB wavelength of light reaction. The UVB wavelength of light reaction. The UVB wavelength of light produced by the mitochondria which is produced by the mitochondria which is produced by the mitochondria which is called a biopoton will convert the called a biopoton will convert the called a biopoton will convert the cholesterol to previtamin D. It is later cholesterol to previtamin D. It is later cholesterol to previtamin D. It is later metabolized into the myriad. There's metabolized into the myriad. There's metabolized into the myriad. There's something like 25 different forms of something like 25 different forms of something like 25 different forms of vitamin D which isn't really even a vitamin D which isn't really even a vitamin D which isn't really even a vitamin. It is a hormone. It has a vitamin. It is a hormone. It has a vitamin. It is a hormone. It has a profound effect on everything happening profound effect on everything happening profound effect on everything happening in your body, including the regulation in your body, including the regulation in your body, including the regulation of the immune system, the development of of the immune system, the development of of the immune system, the development of the immune system in children. Of the immune system in children. Of the immune system in children. Of course, your bone metabolism, everything course, your bone metabolism, everything course, your bone metabolism, everything in your body relies upon your hormone in your body relies upon your hormone in your body relies upon your hormone levels of vitamin D and to take levels of vitamin D and to take levels of vitamin D and to take supplements will help if you are a an supplements will help if you are a an supplements will help if you are a an acute vitamin D insufficiency or acute vitamin D insufficiency or acute vitamin D insufficiency or deficiency. But here, I agree with Jack deficiency. But here, I agree with Jack deficiency. But here, I agree with Jack Cruz. If your body can make it, you Cruz. If your body can make it, you Cruz. If your body can make it, you don't need to take it. The big question don't need to take it. The big question don't need to take it. The big question is, how do people at the extreme is, how do people at the extreme is, how do people at the extreme latitudes maintain healthy vitamin D latitudes maintain healthy vitamin D latitudes maintain healthy vitamin D levels that their body needs when

44:00levels that their body needs when levels that their body needs when there's no sunshine, at least there's no there's no sunshine, at least there's no there's no sunshine, at least there's no UVB in radiation during the winter? This UVB in radiation during the winter? This UVB in radiation during the winter? This was an enormous mystery and people was an enormous mystery and people was an enormous mystery and people thought that is because, well, they're thought that is because, well, they're thought that is because, well, they're living on seal fat or they're eating, living on seal fat or they're eating, living on seal fat or they're eating, you know, cod liver or something. The you know, cod liver or something. The you know, cod liver or something. The dietary dietary dietary contribution to vitamin D is inadequate contribution to vitamin D is inadequate contribution to vitamin D is inadequate to maintain healthy levels. But the to maintain healthy levels. But the to maintain healthy levels. But the biopotons produced by the mitochondria biopotons produced by the mitochondria biopotons produced by the mitochondria can make up for it. When you get cold can make up for it. When you get cold can make up for it. When you get cold and you activate your brown fat, you and you activate your brown fat, you and you activate your brown fat, you initiate this electron transport chain initiate this electron transport chain initiate this electron transport chain that produces light inside your brown that produces light inside your brown that produces light inside your brown fat cells. That light in the UVB range fat cells. That light in the UVB range fat cells. That light in the UVB range intersects cholesterol. It produces intersects cholesterol. It produces intersects cholesterol. It produces previtamin D and it produces it right previtamin D and it produces it right previtamin D and it produces it right where it needs to be. Not in the skin where it needs to be. Not in the skin where it needs to be. Not in the skin where it has to be transported into the where it has to be transported into the where it has to be transported into the fat cells where it can be stored and fat cells where it can be stored and fat cells where it can be stored and further metabolized. It produces it further metabolized. It produces it further metabolized. It produces it right in the fat cell. And so I wrote

45:00right in the fat cell. And so I wrote right in the fat cell. And so I wrote this article and I hypothesized that the this article and I hypothesized that the this article and I hypothesized that the vitamin D produced by cold would never vitamin D produced by cold would never vitamin D produced by cold would never show up as calcifierol in a classic show up as calcifierol in a classic show up as calcifierol in a classic vitamin D blood serum test. Because vitamin D blood serum test. Because vitamin D blood serum test. Because people, you know, on Twitter were coming people, you know, on Twitter were coming people, you know, on Twitter were coming at me and they saying, "Hey, where's at me and they saying, "Hey, where's at me and they saying, "Hey, where's your data, Professor Seager? You know, your data, Professor Seager? You know, your data, Professor Seager? You know, if the cold will produce vitamin D, why if the cold will produce vitamin D, why if the cold will produce vitamin D, why aren't we measuring it in the aren't we measuring it in the aren't we measuring it in the bloodstream?" And I said it is not bloodstream?" And I said it is not bloodstream?" And I said it is not measured in the bloodstream because it measured in the bloodstream because it measured in the bloodstream because it does not ever have to be transported does not ever have to be transported does not ever have to be transported through the bloodstream. Andreas, I was through the bloodstream. Andreas, I was through the bloodstream. Andreas, I was wrong. I found this paper. This is from wrong. I found this paper. This is from wrong. I found this paper. This is from Poland. It came out in April 2025. And Poland. It came out in April 2025. And Poland. It came out in April 2025. And it is the first study of whole body it is the first study of whole body it is the first study of whole body cryotherapy and blood serum levels of cryotherapy and blood serum levels of cryotherapy and blood serum levels of vitamin D. And guess what it finds? vitamin D. And guess what it finds? vitamin D. And guess what it finds? Whole body cryotherapy will increase Whole body cryotherapy will increase Whole body cryotherapy will increase vitamin D levels measured in the blood vitamin D levels measured in the blood vitamin D levels measured in the blood at least in the dozens of women who are

46:00at least in the dozens of women who are at least in the dozens of women who are all diagnosed with multiple sclerosis all diagnosed with multiple sclerosis all diagnosed with multiple sclerosis that participated in this study. So they that participated in this study. So they that participated in this study. So they had the experimental group, they had the had the experimental group, they had the had the experimental group, they had the control group, they subjected the control group, they subjected the control group, they subjected the experimental group to whole body experimental group to whole body experimental group to whole body cryotherapy and they got a boost in cryotherapy and they got a boost in cryotherapy and they got a boost in these Polish women's uh with multiple these Polish women's uh with multiple these Polish women's uh with multiple sclerosis vitamin D levels. Now you sclerosis vitamin D levels. Now you sclerosis vitamin D levels. Now you might know that multiple sclerosis is might know that multiple sclerosis is might know that multiple sclerosis is associated with deficiencies in vitamin associated with deficiencies in vitamin associated with deficiencies in vitamin D metabolism. D metabolism. D metabolism. >> All the autoimmune disorders whether >> All the autoimmune disorders whether >> All the autoimmune disorders whether it's diabetes or Parkinson's or it's diabetes or Parkinson's or it's diabetes or Parkinson's or fibromyalgia or rheumatoid arthritis fibromyalgia or rheumatoid arthritis fibromyalgia or rheumatoid arthritis they all originate in vitamin D they all originate in vitamin D they all originate in vitamin D insufficiency during the first year of insufficiency during the first year of insufficiency during the first year of life when the immune system is life when the immune system is life when the immune system is developing. Vi Healthy levels of vitamin developing. Vi Healthy levels of vitamin developing. Vi Healthy levels of vitamin D then are essential to the healthy D then are essential to the healthy D then are essential to the healthy development of the immune system. Later development of the immune system. Later development of the immune system. Later on the vitamin D status of the person on the vitamin D status of the person on the vitamin D status of the person with an autoimmune disorder can be with an autoimmune disorder can be with an autoimmune disorder can be corrected but the immune system is corrected but the immune system is corrected but the immune system is already developed. So it is still already developed. So it is still

47:00already developed. So it is still susceptible and in multiple sclerosis susceptible and in multiple sclerosis susceptible and in multiple sclerosis patients when their vitamin D levels get patients when their vitamin D levels get patients when their vitamin D levels get lower they are subjected to what are lower they are subjected to what are lower they are subjected to what are called flare-ups. The symptoms of called flare-ups. The symptoms of called flare-ups. The symptoms of multiple sclerosis can get worse. So multiple sclerosis can get worse. So multiple sclerosis can get worse. So this is a population with a vitamin D this is a population with a vitamin D this is a population with a vitamin D disorder and in that population sure disorder and in that population sure disorder and in that population sure enough the vitamin D that is being made enough the vitamin D that is being made enough the vitamin D that is being made in the brown fat during whole body in the brown fat during whole body in the brown fat during whole body cryotherapy is traveling through the cryotherapy is traveling through the cryotherapy is traveling through the bloodstream to reach other places in the bloodstream to reach other places in the bloodstream to reach other places in the body where the multiple scerosis patient body where the multiple scerosis patient body where the multiple scerosis patient needs it. This is an incredible finding needs it. This is an incredible finding needs it. This is an incredible finding that although it contradicts my that although it contradicts my that although it contradicts my hypothesis that it would that that hypothesis that it would that that hypothesis that it would that that vitamin D would stay in the fat cell and vitamin D would stay in the fat cell and vitamin D would stay in the fat cell and never be found in the bloodstream, it never be found in the bloodstream, it never be found in the bloodstream, it confirms that the vitamin D is being confirms that the vitamin D is being confirms that the vitamin D is being made in the fat cell. This is something made in the fat cell. This is something made in the fat cell. This is something that I'm pretty sure Jack Cruz is aware that I'm pretty sure Jack Cruz is aware that I'm pretty sure Jack Cruz is aware of, but he doesn't quite talk enough of, but he doesn't quite talk enough of, but he doesn't quite talk enough about. He talks about using ice baths about. He talks about using ice baths about. He talks about using ice baths for leptin sensitivity so you can better for leptin sensitivity so you can better for leptin sensitivity so you can better regulate your appetite. and it's very

48:00regulate your appetite. and it's very regulate your appetite. and it's very smart. But then he tells everybody, you smart. But then he tells everybody, you smart. But then he tells everybody, you got to move to El Salvador. You know, got to move to El Salvador. You know, got to move to El Salvador. You know, buy Bitcoin, move to El Salvador, get buy Bitcoin, move to El Salvador, get buy Bitcoin, move to El Salvador, get more sunshine. And I'm not saying that's more sunshine. And I'm not saying that's more sunshine. And I'm not saying that's a bad thing. I'm saying he could a bad thing. I'm saying he could a bad thing. I'm saying he could emphasize more that if you live in these emphasize more that if you live in these emphasize more that if you live in these northern latitudes, you can maintain northern latitudes, you can maintain northern latitudes, you can maintain healthy vitamin D levels by getting healthy vitamin D levels by getting healthy vitamin D levels by getting regular cold during the winter. And regular cold during the winter. And regular cold during the winter. And don't worry about what your blood labs don't worry about what your blood labs don't worry about what your blood labs say. If you're not symptomatic, you say. If you're not symptomatic, you say. If you're not symptomatic, you shouldn't be treating a lab report. shouldn't be treating a lab report. shouldn't be treating a lab report. Treat instead those indications that Treat instead those indications that Treat instead those indications that feel like ill health. And maintenance of feel like ill health. And maintenance of feel like ill health. And maintenance of healthy vitamin D levels is possible healthy vitamin D levels is possible healthy vitamin D levels is possible without eating a ton of coded liver without eating a ton of coded liver without eating a ton of coded liver during the winter as long as you're during the winter as long as you're during the winter as long as you're willing to experience some cold. willing to experience some cold. willing to experience some cold. >> Wow. This is so mind-blowing information >> Wow. This is so mind-blowing information >> Wow. This is so mind-blowing information really because I'm sure many people were really because I'm sure many people were really because I'm sure many people were not aware about this. I mean the more I not aware about this. I mean the more I not aware about this. I mean the more I actually got into studying biopotons and actually got into studying biopotons and actually got into studying biopotons and having many other incredible guests on

49:00having many other incredible guests on having many other incredible guests on the show I I got more and more deeper the show I I got more and more deeper the show I I got more and more deeper into this topic of the biophotons and into this topic of the biophotons and into this topic of the biophotons and their roles and it just seems that there their roles and it just seems that there their roles and it just seems that there are certain they are very intelligent are certain they are very intelligent are certain they are very intelligent right like they are doing different right like they are doing different right like they are doing different things so for example some that you things so for example some that you things so for example some that you mentioned are they're making that mentioned are they're making that mentioned are they're making that vitamin D production some can be doing vitamin D production some can be doing vitamin D production some can be doing something else they're they're serving something else they're they're serving something else they're they're serving as this quantum communication throughout as this quantum communication throughout as this quantum communication throughout the body which is traveling throughout the body which is traveling throughout the body which is traveling throughout the fascial system at the speed of light the fascial system at the speed of light the fascial system at the speed of light and it's just it's just absolutely wild and it's just it's just absolutely wild and it's just it's just absolutely wild and it would even support your and it would even support your and it would even support your hypothesis, you know, like the fact that hypothesis, you know, like the fact that hypothesis, you know, like the fact that the the fascial system and the the nanot the the fascial system and the the nanot the the fascial system and the the nanot tubules, the fact that we can quantum tubules, the fact that we can quantum tubules, the fact that we can quantum communicate and tunnel energy throughout communicate and tunnel energy throughout communicate and tunnel energy throughout the body, you know, you could even the body, you know, you could even the body, you know, you could even possibly tunnel vitamin D molecules. Who possibly tunnel vitamin D molecules. Who possibly tunnel vitamin D molecules. Who who knows, right? Because everything in who knows, right? Because everything in who knows, right? Because everything in the body once it gets to a certain the body once it gets to a certain the body once it gets to a certain level, it becomes so small and so level, it becomes so small and so level, it becomes so small and so quantum, it's almost instantaneous. It quantum, it's almost instantaneous. It quantum, it's almost instantaneous. It doesn't even take time to travel from doesn't even take time to travel from doesn't even take time to travel from one place to another because the more one place to another because the more one place to another because the more coherence there is within a system, the coherence there is within a system, the coherence there is within a system, the the better the communication between the

50:00the better the communication between the the better the communication between the cells and the and the and yeah and cells and the and the and yeah and cells and the and the and yeah and basically all the organs of the body. So basically all the organs of the body. So basically all the organs of the body. So we mentioned about the biopotons, we we mentioned about the biopotons, we we mentioned about the biopotons, we mentioned about the brown fat, we mentioned about the brown fat, we mentioned about the brown fat, we mentioned about the testosterone. How mentioned about the testosterone. How mentioned about the testosterone. How about fertility for women? How does cold about fertility for women? How does cold about fertility for women? How does cold improve fertility? One of the most improve fertility? One of the most improve fertility? One of the most metabolically demanding things that a metabolically demanding things that a metabolically demanding things that a woman can do is pregnancy. And this woman can do is pregnancy. And this woman can do is pregnancy. And this should make sense to everybody because should make sense to everybody because should make sense to everybody because she must nourish the growth of the fetus she must nourish the growth of the fetus she must nourish the growth of the fetus for 9 months. And this is metabolically for 9 months. And this is metabolically for 9 months. And this is metabolically a stressful thing. Her body becomes full a stressful thing. Her body becomes full a stressful thing. Her body becomes full of growth hormone and growth hormone of growth hormone and growth hormone of growth hormone and growth hormone will interfere with the action of will interfere with the action of will interfere with the action of insulin. So it is a state pregnancy that insulin. So it is a state pregnancy that insulin. So it is a state pregnancy that is pregnancy is a state of physiological is pregnancy is a state of physiological is pregnancy is a state of physiological insulin resistance and I mean insulin resistance and I mean insulin resistance and I mean physiological not pathological. Some physiological not pathological. Some physiological not pathological. Some insulin resistance during pregnancy is a insulin resistance during pregnancy is a insulin resistance during pregnancy is a healthy condition. The problem is that healthy condition. The problem is that healthy condition. The problem is that this metabolically demanding state this metabolically demanding state this metabolically demanding state requires healthy mitochondria. And so

51:00requires healthy mitochondria. And so requires healthy mitochondria. And so you look at the statistics that come out you look at the statistics that come out you look at the statistics that come out of Europe in the United States and say, of Europe in the United States and say, of Europe in the United States and say, "Oh, the poor women are going to lose "Oh, the poor women are going to lose "Oh, the poor women are going to lose their fertility after they turn 35 that their fertility after they turn 35 that their fertility after they turn 35 that fertility just falls off a cliff." It's fertility just falls off a cliff." It's fertility just falls off a cliff." It's not fertility. It is the mitochondria. not fertility. It is the mitochondria. not fertility. It is the mitochondria. It is mitochondrial health that decline It is mitochondrial health that decline It is mitochondrial health that decline with age. And as a consequence of the with age. And as a consequence of the with age. And as a consequence of the accumulation of mitochondrial injury, accumulation of mitochondrial injury, accumulation of mitochondrial injury, then fertility declines. So for a woman then fertility declines. So for a woman then fertility declines. So for a woman to maintain her fertility up until to maintain her fertility up until to maintain her fertility up until menopause and then including the early menopause and then including the early menopause and then including the early 40s, she must maintain healthy 40s, she must maintain healthy 40s, she must maintain healthy mitochondria. There are a number of mitochondria. There are a number of mitochondria. There are a number of things that she can do. I mentioned things that she can do. I mentioned things that she can do. I mentioned magnesium and zinc. Uh CoQ10, get enough magnesium and zinc. Uh CoQ10, get enough magnesium and zinc. Uh CoQ10, get enough choline, Lcarnitine, PQQ is another choline, Lcarnitine, PQQ is another choline, Lcarnitine, PQQ is another supplement that you can take. So there's supplement that you can take. So there's supplement that you can take. So there's some nutritional things that you can do. some nutritional things that you can do. some nutritional things that you can do. You must also take care of your gut You must also take care of your gut You must also take care of your gut health. Get the glyphosate out of your health. Get the glyphosate out of your health. Get the glyphosate out of your gut. Make sure that your gut microbiome gut. Make sure that your gut microbiome gut. Make sure that your gut microbiome is in good shape because it is the gut is in good shape because it is the gut is in good shape because it is the gut microbiome that produces free fatty microbiome that produces free fatty microbiome that produces free fatty acids that travel to the mitochondria.

52:00acids that travel to the mitochondria. acids that travel to the mitochondria. You get the wrong gut microbiome and You get the wrong gut microbiome and You get the wrong gut microbiome and that's really where metabolism starts. that's really where metabolism starts. that's really where metabolism starts. Then you get the wrong feed stocks for Then you get the wrong feed stocks for Then you get the wrong feed stocks for the mitochondria. the mitochondria. the mitochondria. Cold is one of the best things for a Cold is one of the best things for a Cold is one of the best things for a woman's fertility because cold woman's fertility because cold woman's fertility because cold stimulates mitobiogenesis and stimulates mitobiogenesis and stimulates mitobiogenesis and rejuvenates the mitochondria that have rejuvenates the mitochondria that have rejuvenates the mitochondria that have otherwise been injured by all of the otherwise been injured by all of the otherwise been injured by all of the other things that that we do in Western other things that that we do in Western other things that that we do in Western society. Poor light, poor sleep, uh too society. Poor light, poor sleep, uh too society. Poor light, poor sleep, uh too many seed oils, too much snacking, too many seed oils, too much snacking, too many seed oils, too much snacking, too many carbs, no ketosis. All of these many carbs, no ketosis. All of these many carbs, no ketosis. All of these things accumulate injury inside the things accumulate injury inside the things accumulate injury inside the mitochondria that can be corrected by mitochondria that can be corrected by mitochondria that can be corrected by cold plunge, heat, very bad. Um, you cold plunge, heat, very bad. Um, you cold plunge, heat, very bad. Um, you know, if you're seeking either a man or know, if you're seeking either a man or know, if you're seeking either a man or a woman, if you're seeking to conceive, a woman, if you're seeking to conceive, a woman, if you're seeking to conceive, uh, men cut out, don't do the sauna. Uh, uh, men cut out, don't do the sauna. Uh, uh, men cut out, don't do the sauna. Uh, women stay out of the sauna if you're women stay out of the sauna if you're women stay out of the sauna if you're pregnant or seeking to conceive. I've pregnant or seeking to conceive. I've pregnant or seeking to conceive. I've got an accumulation of anecdotes from got an accumulation of anecdotes from got an accumulation of anecdotes from women in their late 30s or early 40s who women in their late 30s or early 40s who

53:00women in their late 30s or early 40s who said, "Well, I started doing ketosis and said, "Well, I started doing ketosis and said, "Well, I started doing ketosis and ice baths and surprise, I got pregnant. ice baths and surprise, I got pregnant. ice baths and surprise, I got pregnant. You didn't warn me." And I'll say, You didn't warn me." And I'll say, You didn't warn me." And I'll say, "Well, hang on a second. I think I did, "Well, hang on a second. I think I did, "Well, hang on a second. I think I did, but you know, you weren't thinking about but you know, you weren't thinking about but you know, you weren't thinking about that. I do not recommend hormonal birth that. I do not recommend hormonal birth that. I do not recommend hormonal birth control. I recommend you take care of control. I recommend you take care of control. I recommend you take care of your metabolism." And I think it's your metabolism." And I think it's your metabolism." And I think it's wonderful. Like every message that I wonderful. Like every message that I wonderful. Like every message that I get, I'm saying congratulations. It get, I'm saying congratulations. It get, I'm saying congratulations. It doesn't matter to me whether the doesn't matter to me whether the doesn't matter to me whether the pregnancy was a planned event or the pregnancy was a planned event or the pregnancy was a planned event or the accident of fixing the metabolism. What accident of fixing the metabolism. What accident of fixing the metabolism. What a blessed thing for a woman to have even a blessed thing for a woman to have even a blessed thing for a woman to have even as she's into her early 40s. Then of as she's into her early 40s. Then of as she's into her early 40s. Then of course they'll message me and say, "But course they'll message me and say, "But course they'll message me and say, "But maybe I shouldn't do cold anymore while maybe I shouldn't do cold anymore while maybe I shouldn't do cold anymore while I'm pregnant." And no, you should I'm pregnant." And no, you should I'm pregnant." And no, you should because pregnancy is a physiological because pregnancy is a physiological because pregnancy is a physiological state of insulin resistance. If you're state of insulin resistance. If you're state of insulin resistance. If you're not doing things to maintain insulin not doing things to maintain insulin not doing things to maintain insulin sensitivity, that insulin resistance can sensitivity, that insulin resistance can sensitivity, that insulin resistance can go too far. It can show up as go too far. It can show up as go too far. It can show up as preeacclampsia. It can show up with preeacclampsia. It can show up with preeacclampsia. It can show up with gestational diabetes or, heaven forbid,

54:00gestational diabetes or, heaven forbid, gestational diabetes or, heaven forbid, eclampsia. It can show up as placental eclampsia. It can show up as placental eclampsia. It can show up as placental insufficiency. And all of these things insufficiency. And all of these things insufficiency. And all of these things are going to happen in the third are going to happen in the third are going to happen in the third trimester. Cold is associated with trimester. Cold is associated with trimester. Cold is associated with better birth outcomes. So, if you want better birth outcomes. So, if you want better birth outcomes. So, if you want to take a break from the cold because to take a break from the cold because to take a break from the cold because you think that you've conceived or it's you think that you've conceived or it's you think that you've conceived or it's right around ovulation and you say, you right around ovulation and you say, you right around ovulation and you say, you know what, I don't want to activate my know what, I don't want to activate my know what, I don't want to activate my immune system when I'm trying to immune system when I'm trying to immune system when I'm trying to conceive when that zygote might be conceive when that zygote might be conceive when that zygote might be implanting in the uterine wall. It's implanting in the uterine wall. It's implanting in the uterine wall. It's okay. Take a break for a few days. Take okay. Take a break for a few days. Take okay. Take a break for a few days. Take a break for your first trimester and a break for your first trimester and a break for your first trimester and then come back with the cold in the then come back with the cold in the then come back with the cold in the second trimester, in the third second trimester, in the third second trimester, in the third trimester. Your baby is fine. All of the trimester. Your baby is fine. All of the trimester. Your baby is fine. All of the thermmore regulatory mechanisms are thermmore regulatory mechanisms are thermmore regulatory mechanisms are going to protect that fetal core going to protect that fetal core going to protect that fetal core temperature and the benefit you get from temperature and the benefit you get from temperature and the benefit you get from the mitochondrial boost from the reduced the mitochondrial boost from the reduced the mitochondrial boost from the reduced swelling from the improved sleep is swelling from the improved sleep is swelling from the improved sleep is going to lead to better birth outcomes. going to lead to better birth outcomes. going to lead to better birth outcomes. So that's the ladies. So that's the ladies. So that's the ladies. >> Men, >> Men, >> Men, >> the biggest difficulty that um that let

55:00>> the biggest difficulty that um that let >> the biggest difficulty that um that let me rephrase that. The first clinical me rephrase that. The first clinical me rephrase that. The first clinical indication of metabolic dysfunction in a indication of metabolic dysfunction in a indication of metabolic dysfunction in a young man is erectile dysfunction. The young man is erectile dysfunction. The young man is erectile dysfunction. The function of the penis that is an function of the penis that is an function of the penis that is an erection requires healthy mitochondria erection requires healthy mitochondria erection requires healthy mitochondria to produce the nitric oxide that to produce the nitric oxide that to produce the nitric oxide that stimulate vasoddilation so that blood stimulate vasoddilation so that blood stimulate vasoddilation so that blood can reach the penis. If you are can reach the penis. If you are can reach the penis. If you are experiencing as a young man erectile experiencing as a young man erectile experiencing as a young man erectile dysfunction, it could be related to low dysfunction, it could be related to low dysfunction, it could be related to low testosterone testosterone testosterone and the failure of the endothelial cells and the failure of the endothelial cells and the failure of the endothelial cells that are responsible for signaling that are responsible for signaling that are responsible for signaling vasoddilation to produce enough nitric vasoddilation to produce enough nitric vasoddilation to produce enough nitric oxide. Both of those things are oxide. Both of those things are oxide. Both of those things are mitochondrial in their origin and both mitochondrial in their origin and both mitochondrial in their origin and both of those things can be fixed with cold of those things can be fixed with cold of those things can be fixed with cold plunge therapy. Do not do the sona plunge therapy. Do not do the sona plunge therapy. Do not do the sona because that interferes with sperm because that interferes with sperm because that interferes with sperm production. But cold is a wonderful production. But cold is a wonderful production. But cold is a wonderful thing for the male metabolism as well thing for the male metabolism as well thing for the male metabolism as well and for the male sex function in women. and for the male sex function in women. and for the male sex function in women. The number one cause of infertility

56:00The number one cause of infertility The number one cause of infertility among otherwise you know women of among otherwise you know women of among otherwise you know women of childbearing age is called PCOS childbearing age is called PCOS childbearing age is called PCOS polycystic ovarian syndrome. That is polycystic ovarian syndrome. That is polycystic ovarian syndrome. That is metabolic in its origin. So both men and metabolic in its origin. So both men and metabolic in its origin. So both men and women can improve their fertility by a women can improve their fertility by a women can improve their fertility by a regular practice of cold plunge therapy. regular practice of cold plunge therapy. regular practice of cold plunge therapy. After the baby is born, it's okay to After the baby is born, it's okay to After the baby is born, it's okay to start sauna again. It maybe it will help start sauna again. It maybe it will help start sauna again. It maybe it will help bring in your milk. Uh maybe it will bring in your milk. Uh maybe it will bring in your milk. Uh maybe it will help improve your circulation. Don't help improve your circulation. Don't help improve your circulation. Don't bring your baby into the sauna, but it's bring your baby into the sauna, but it's bring your baby into the sauna, but it's okay for the mother to do sona again. okay for the mother to do sona again. okay for the mother to do sona again. >> That's awesome. Yeah. So, basically in >> That's awesome. Yeah. So, basically in >> That's awesome. Yeah. So, basically in the body we have like three of the most the body we have like three of the most the body we have like three of the most energy demanding systems, right? Is the energy demanding systems, right? Is the energy demanding systems, right? Is the is the brain, the heart, and the is the brain, the heart, and the is the brain, the heart, and the reproductive system as you just reproductive system as you just reproductive system as you just mentioned. So, that is where we have the mentioned. So, that is where we have the mentioned. So, that is where we have the highest concentration of mitochondria. highest concentration of mitochondria. highest concentration of mitochondria. And there is there must be a reason for And there is there must be a reason for And there is there must be a reason for that, right? because they must be kind that, right? because they must be kind that, right? because they must be kind of important for our survival and our of important for our survival and our of important for our survival and our basically our survival as a species on basically our survival as a species on basically our survival as a species on the planet reproduction, right? To be the planet reproduction, right? To be the planet reproduction, right? To be able to give birth to to new human able to give birth to to new human able to give birth to to new human beings. And so how does it actually does beings. And so how does it actually does beings. And so how does it actually does cold benefit heart health since it's you

57:00cold benefit heart health since it's you cold benefit heart health since it's you know since the heart is so abundant in know since the heart is so abundant in know since the heart is so abundant in mitochondria? What does it actually do mitochondria? What does it actually do mitochondria? What does it actually do to the heart? Like how does it benefit to the heart? Like how does it benefit to the heart? Like how does it benefit the heart, the cardiovascular system? the heart, the cardiovascular system? the heart, the cardiovascular system? The mechanisms I'm not an expert in the The mechanisms I'm not an expert in the The mechanisms I'm not an expert in the association between insulin resistance association between insulin resistance and heart disease is very strong. When and heart disease is very strong. When and heart disease is very strong. When you improve your insulin sensitivity, you improve your insulin sensitivity, you improve your insulin sensitivity, you reduce your risk of any sort of you reduce your risk of any sort of you reduce your risk of any sort of cardiovascular event, whether that's cardiovascular event, whether that's cardiovascular event, whether that's heart disease or a stroke or deep vein heart disease or a stroke or deep vein heart disease or a stroke or deep vein thrombosis or even chronic venus thrombosis or even chronic venus thrombosis or even chronic venus insufficiency, which we just found out insufficiency, which we just found out insufficiency, which we just found out President Trump, who gives no outward President Trump, who gives no outward President Trump, who gives no outward indication of metabolic health indication of metabolic health indication of metabolic health whatsoever, suffers from chronic venus whatsoever, suffers from chronic venus whatsoever, suffers from chronic venus insufficiency. The mechanisms by which insufficiency. The mechanisms by which insufficiency. The mechanisms by which the cold might target improvement in the the cold might target improvement in the the cold might target improvement in the heart mitochondria, those remain heart mitochondria, those remain heart mitochondria, those remain mysterious to me. It is true that you mysterious to me. It is true that you mysterious to me. It is true that you can stimulate one part of the body and can stimulate one part of the body and can stimulate one part of the body and find benefits in another part of the find benefits in another part of the find benefits in another part of the body. And there's a medical term for

58:00body. And there's a medical term for body. And there's a medical term for this that I find very confusing because this that I find very confusing because this that I find very confusing because I'm not an expert in the Latin medical I'm not an expert in the Latin medical I'm not an expert in the Latin medical terminology. But what we know is that terminology. But what we know is that terminology. But what we know is that you can exercise one aspect and you can exercise one aspect and you can exercise one aspect and strengthen other aspects of the body. strengthen other aspects of the body. strengthen other aspects of the body. The body is a complex system in constant The body is a complex system in constant The body is a complex system in constant communication with one another. And this communication with one another. And this communication with one another. And this is imperfect. But you cannot change just is imperfect. But you cannot change just is imperfect. But you cannot change just one thing. As an example, you get your one thing. As an example, you get your one thing. As an example, you get your 10,000 steps, you get smart. Was it your 10,000 steps, you get smart. Was it your 10,000 steps, you get smart. Was it your brain that was doing the steps? It's not brain that was doing the steps? It's not brain that was doing the steps? It's not like you, you know, sitting there doing like you, you know, sitting there doing like you, you know, sitting there doing crossword puzzles is also very good for crossword puzzles is also very good for crossword puzzles is also very good for your brain. But just visualizing your brain. But just visualizing your brain. But just visualizing exercise will improve your muscle tone. exercise will improve your muscle tone. exercise will improve your muscle tone. How is it that you can give your brain How is it that you can give your brain How is it that you can give your brain exercises that improve the quality of exercises that improve the quality of exercises that improve the quality of your muscles? How is it that you can your muscles? How is it that you can your muscles? How is it that you can give your muscles exercises that will give your muscles exercises that will give your muscles exercises that will improve your the quality of your brain? improve your the quality of your brain? improve your the quality of your brain? Because there's no such thing as Because there's no such thing as Because there's no such thing as changing just one thing. This is one of changing just one thing. This is one of changing just one thing. This is one of my objections to the pharmaceutical my objections to the pharmaceutical my objections to the pharmaceutical industry. They want you to believe that industry. They want you to believe that industry. They want you to believe that you can take one pill to correct one

59:00you can take one pill to correct one you can take one pill to correct one symptom and everything else is you side symptom and everything else is you side symptom and everything else is you side effects. There's no such thing as a side effects. There's no such thing as a side effects. There's no such thing as a side effect, Andreas. There are only effects effect, Andreas. There are only effects effect, Andreas. There are only effects because everything in the body is because everything in the body is because everything in the body is connected to everything else. When you connected to everything else. When you connected to everything else. When you change one thing for the better, you change one thing for the better, you change one thing for the better, you change everything for the better. And change everything for the better. And change everything for the better. And the opposite is also true. When you the opposite is also true. When you the opposite is also true. When you change one thing for the worse, you change one thing for the worse, you change one thing for the worse, you change everything for the worse. So, I change everything for the worse. So, I change everything for the worse. So, I wish I could answer with greater wish I could answer with greater wish I could answer with greater expertise about what changes in the expertise about what changes in the expertise about what changes in the mitochondria and the function of the mitochondria and the function of the mitochondria and the function of the heart, but the mechanisms aren't my heart, but the mechanisms aren't my heart, but the mechanisms aren't my area. Did you know that muscle weighs area. Did you know that muscle weighs area. Did you know that muscle weighs more than body fat in terms of volume? more than body fat in terms of volume? more than body fat in terms of volume? This is why someone can look like this This is why someone can look like this This is why someone can look like this or like this and be the exact same or like this and be the exact same or like this and be the exact same weight on the scale, making weight weight on the scale, making weight weight on the scale, making weight tracking not the most reliable metric tracking not the most reliable metric tracking not the most reliable metric when it comes to measuring progress. So, when it comes to measuring progress. So, when it comes to measuring progress. So, building muscle while losing body fat building muscle while losing body fat building muscle while losing body fat can massively influence the number on can massively influence the number on can massively influence the number on the scale, leaving you feeling the scale, leaving you feeling the scale, leaving you feeling frustrated and discouraged. This is why frustrated and discouraged. This is why frustrated and discouraged. This is why I love the Home Body Pod, an atome full I love the Home Body Pod, an atome full I love the Home Body Pod, an atome full body analyzer that gives you over 40 body analyzer that gives you over 40 body analyzer that gives you over 40 actionable health metrics allow you to actionable health metrics allow you to actionable health metrics allow you to get a true insight into your body get a true insight into your body

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1:01you brought it up because it allows me you brought it up because it allows me to correct another misconception in the to correct another misconception in the to correct another misconception in the United States. Thermal contrast therapy United States. Thermal contrast therapy United States. Thermal contrast therapy is one of the best things you can do for is one of the best things you can do for is one of the best things you can do for cardiovascular function. The cold cardiovascular function. The cold cardiovascular function. The cold restricts the blood vessels. This smooth restricts the blood vessels. This smooth restricts the blood vessels. This smooth muscle tissue that controls the diameter muscle tissue that controls the diameter muscle tissue that controls the diameter of your blood vessel contracts and it of your blood vessel contracts and it of your blood vessel contracts and it shuts down blood flow to the extremities shuts down blood flow to the extremities shuts down blood flow to the extremities to increase perfusion in the core and in to increase perfusion in the core and in to increase perfusion in the core and in the brain to protect all of these the brain to protect all of these the brain to protect all of these elements against the cold. That's elements against the cold. That's elements against the cold. That's wonderful. And then when you get into wonderful. And then when you get into wonderful. And then when you get into the sauna, the sauna causes vaso the sauna, the sauna causes vaso the sauna, the sauna causes vaso dilation, the relaxation of the smooth dilation, the relaxation of the smooth dilation, the relaxation of the smooth muscle tissue. So thermal contrast muscle tissue. So thermal contrast muscle tissue. So thermal contrast therapy is like a workout for your therapy is like a workout for your therapy is like a workout for your smooth muscle tissue and it improves smooth muscle tissue and it improves smooth muscle tissue and it improves cardiovascular function so your heart cardiovascular function so your heart cardiovascular function so your heart doesn't have to work as hard and that doesn't have to work as hard and that doesn't have to work as hard and that might be one of the mechanisms of heart might be one of the mechanisms of heart might be one of the mechanisms of heart benefit. But the misconception in the benefit. But the misconception in the benefit. But the misconception in the United States is people think sona just United States is people think sona just United States is people think sona just means sweating in the hot box. Sona is means sweating in the hot box. Sona is means sweating in the hot box. Sona is the only word in the Finnish language the only word in the Finnish language the only word in the Finnish language that has been incorporated into English

1:02that has been incorporated into English that has been incorporated into English at least as far as I know. And we at least as far as I know. And we at least as far as I know. And we misunderstand it because sona in Finland misunderstand it because sona in Finland misunderstand it because sona in Finland means hot and cold. And then we say, means hot and cold. And then we say, means hot and cold. And then we say, "Oh, I'm going to do sona." And we think "Oh, I'm going to do sona." And we think "Oh, I'm going to do sona." And we think it's only heat. Well, in Finland, you it's only heat. Well, in Finland, you it's only heat. Well, in Finland, you jump in the lake, you know, even in the jump in the lake, you know, even in the jump in the lake, you know, even in the summertime, the lake water there is summertime, the lake water there is summertime, the lake water there is cold. Or you roll in the snow in the cold. Or you roll in the snow in the cold. Or you roll in the snow in the winter time. They're always doing cold. winter time. They're always doing cold. winter time. They're always doing cold. It is not possible to do an It is not possible to do an It is not possible to do an epidemiological study in Finland of Sona epidemiological study in Finland of Sona epidemiological study in Finland of Sona without the cold exposure, too. And they without the cold exposure, too. And they without the cold exposure, too. And they will say right in the research papers, will say right in the research papers, will say right in the research papers, by sona, we mean hot and cold. But then by sona, we mean hot and cold. But then by sona, we mean hot and cold. But then Ronda Patrick or, you know, Andrew Ronda Patrick or, you know, Andrew Ronda Patrick or, you know, Andrew Hubberman or somebody, they do a podcast Hubberman or somebody, they do a podcast Hubberman or somebody, they do a podcast and they say, "If you sauna three times and they say, "If you sauna three times and they say, "If you sauna three times a week, you know, you get a reduction in a week, you know, you get a reduction in a week, you know, you get a reduction in mortality according to this Finnish mortality according to this Finnish mortality according to this Finnish study that also did cold, but I'm not study that also did cold, but I'm not study that also did cold, but I'm not going to tell you about the cold." And going to tell you about the cold." And going to tell you about the cold." And so people get the wrong idea. Thermal so people get the wrong idea. Thermal so people get the wrong idea. Thermal contrast therapy is hot and cold. If contrast therapy is hot and cold. If contrast therapy is hot and cold. If you're only doing the heat, you're you're only doing the heat, you're you're only doing the heat, you're probably getting some benefits. But you probably getting some benefits. But you probably getting some benefits. But you cannot rely upon the work done in cannot rely upon the work done in cannot rely upon the work done in Finland that Rhonda Patrick and Andrew

1:03Finland that Rhonda Patrick and Andrew Finland that Rhonda Patrick and Andrew Huberman and other people site. You Huberman and other people site. You Huberman and other people site. You cannot rely upon that research if you're cannot rely upon that research if you're cannot rely upon that research if you're not doing the traditional Finnish sona not doing the traditional Finnish sona not doing the traditional Finnish sona with the cold back and forth. If you're with the cold back and forth. If you're with the cold back and forth. If you're in an infrared sauna, that research in an infrared sauna, that research in an infrared sauna, that research doesn't apply to you. If you're in a doesn't apply to you. If you're in a doesn't apply to you. If you're in a traditional Finnish sona, but you're not traditional Finnish sona, but you're not traditional Finnish sona, but you're not incorporating cold, that research does incorporating cold, that research does incorporating cold, that research does not apply to you. So enjoy yourself. not apply to you. So enjoy yourself. not apply to you. So enjoy yourself. Just don't fool yourself into thinking Just don't fool yourself into thinking Just don't fool yourself into thinking that the statistics are the benefits. that the statistics are the benefits. that the statistics are the benefits. So, uh, that's important. And there's So, uh, that's important. And there's So, uh, that's important. And there's another caveat. People misunderstand hot another caveat. People misunderstand hot another caveat. People misunderstand hot tubs. Hot tubs feel great. And at first, tubs. Hot tubs feel great. And at first, tubs. Hot tubs feel great. And at first, hot tubs will make you sweat a little hot tubs will make you sweat a little hot tubs will make you sweat a little bit, but your skin understands when it bit, but your skin understands when it bit, but your skin understands when it is saturated with water. When you get is saturated with water. When you get is saturated with water. When you get into the hot tub, you only sweat through into the hot tub, you only sweat through into the hot tub, you only sweat through the parts of your skin that are not in the parts of your skin that are not in the parts of your skin that are not in the water. It is the evaporation of the the water. It is the evaporation of the the water. It is the evaporation of the sweat, not just the release of the sweat sweat, not just the release of the sweat sweat, not just the release of the sweat into the water. And so there's this into the water. And so there's this into the water. And so there's this phenomena called hydromeiosis. Your skin phenomena called hydromeiosis. Your skin

1:04phenomena called hydromeiosis. Your skin knows that sweating into the water will knows that sweating into the water will knows that sweating into the water will not cool the body. So how does it defend not cool the body. So how does it defend not cool the body. So how does it defend the core body temperature against the core body temperature against the core body temperature against getting too high? It's also basic getting too high? It's also basic getting too high? It's also basic constriction. So when you get into the constriction. So when you get into the constriction. So when you get into the hot tub in the you know water there is I hot tub in the you know water there is I hot tub in the you know water there is I don't know 104° or you know 40 something don't know 104° or you know 40 something don't know 104° or you know 40 something Celsius whatever it is it's too hot for Celsius whatever it is it's too hot for Celsius whatever it is it's too hot for the body the body will respond all those the body the body will respond all those the body the body will respond all those parts that are in the hot water will parts that are in the hot water will parts that are in the hot water will experience vaso constriction. So if you experience vaso constriction. So if you experience vaso constriction. So if you go from the ice bath vasoc constriction go from the ice bath vasoc constriction go from the ice bath vasoc constriction into the sona vasoddilation you're into the sona vasoddilation you're into the sona vasoddilation you're getting a good workout. But if you go getting a good workout. But if you go getting a good workout. But if you go from the ice bath into the hot tub, from the ice bath into the hot tub, from the ice bath into the hot tub, that's vasoc constriction and vasoc that's vasoc constriction and vasoc that's vasoc constriction and vasoc constriction. I I love hot tubs. They constriction. I I love hot tubs. They constriction. I I love hot tubs. They feel great, but they do not give you the feel great, but they do not give you the feel great, but they do not give you the heat that will cause vasoddilation, heat that will cause vasoddilation, heat that will cause vasoddilation, which you're really looking for in which you're really looking for in which you're really looking for in thermal contrast therapy for thermal contrast therapy for thermal contrast therapy for cardiovascular benefits. cardiovascular benefits. cardiovascular benefits. >> That's wild and such an important >> That's wild and such an important >> That's wild and such an important distinction for people to, you know, distinction for people to, you know, distinction for people to, you know, understand if people want to do this uh

1:05understand if people want to do this uh understand if people want to do this uh contrast therapy. And so how does how contrast therapy. And so how does how contrast therapy. And so how does how does cold benefit our brain uh does cold benefit our brain uh does cold benefit our brain uh especially dopamine? What's actually especially dopamine? What's actually especially dopamine? What's actually happening there? What's what is it doing happening there? What's what is it doing happening there? What's what is it doing for our mental health? for our mental health? for our mental health? >> The most widely cited study was out of >> The most widely cited study was out of >> The most widely cited study was out of Poland. And it's widely studied because Poland. And it's widely studied because Poland. And it's widely studied because it's the one that Hubberman talks about it's the one that Hubberman talks about it's the one that Hubberman talks about 2.5x 2.5x 2.5x increase in dopamine. increase in dopamine. increase in dopamine. This is wonderful in particular for This is wonderful in particular for This is wonderful in particular for Parkinson's patients. I have a friend Parkinson's patients. I have a friend Parkinson's patients. I have a friend who has Parkinson's. He's in his 60s and who has Parkinson's. He's in his 60s and who has Parkinson's. He's in his 60s and he's started doing cold plunge therapy he's started doing cold plunge therapy he's started doing cold plunge therapy because he knows he could take L-dopa. because he knows he could take L-dopa. because he knows he could take L-dopa. He could take exogenous dopamine and it He could take exogenous dopamine and it He could take exogenous dopamine and it would improve all of his symptoms of would improve all of his symptoms of would improve all of his symptoms of Parkinson's and would also burn out his Parkinson's and would also burn out his Parkinson's and would also burn out his dopamine receptors. So instead of taking dopamine receptors. So instead of taking dopamine receptors. So instead of taking L-dopa, he's hypothesizing that if his L-dopa, he's hypothesizing that if his L-dopa, he's hypothesizing that if his body is making its own dopamine, which body is making its own dopamine, which body is making its own dopamine, which is stimulated by the cold, then he will is stimulated by the cold, then he will is stimulated by the cold, then he will not burn out his dopamine receptors and not burn out his dopamine receptors and not burn out his dopamine receptors and he'll get the benefits of the dopamine he'll get the benefits of the dopamine he'll get the benefits of the dopamine without the downside. This seems to be without the downside. This seems to be

1:06without the downside. This seems to be working out pretty well for him. He's working out pretty well for him. He's working out pretty well for him. He's been doing this for a couple years. I've been doing this for a couple years. I've been doing this for a couple years. I've seen his posture improve, his gate seen his posture improve, his gate seen his posture improve, his gate improve, his the cadence of his words improve, his the cadence of his words improve, his the cadence of his words improves. He's doing some other things, improves. He's doing some other things, improves. He's doing some other things, some methylene blue. He hasn't gone into some methylene blue. He hasn't gone into some methylene blue. He hasn't gone into ketosis, but he's doing some nutritional ketosis, but he's doing some nutritional ketosis, but he's doing some nutritional support. So, how does cold support the support. So, how does cold support the support. So, how does cold support the brain? Cold is neuroprotective. brain? Cold is neuroprotective. brain? Cold is neuroprotective. Hyperothermia Hyperothermia Hyperothermia is very dangerous. Hyperothermia is when is very dangerous. Hyperothermia is when is very dangerous. Hyperothermia is when the body temperature gets too hot and it the body temperature gets too hot and it the body temperature gets too hot and it begins to kill the body. The brain is in begins to kill the body. The brain is in begins to kill the body. The brain is in particular susceptible to temperatures particular susceptible to temperatures particular susceptible to temperatures that are too great. But hypothothermia, that are too great. But hypothothermia, that are too great. But hypothothermia, low body temperature, is brain low body temperature, is brain low body temperature, is brain protective. I spoke to an emer an protective. I spoke to an emer an protective. I spoke to an emer an emergency room physician in Baltimore. emergency room physician in Baltimore. emergency room physician in Baltimore. She told me that when they get a cold She told me that when they get a cold She told me that when they get a cold water drowning case, they cannot declare water drowning case, they cannot declare water drowning case, they cannot declare that person dead until they rewarm the that person dead until they rewarm the that person dead until they rewarm the body. She has brought people back to body. She has brought people back to body. She has brought people back to life as much as 24 hours after they've

1:07life as much as 24 hours after they've life as much as 24 hours after they've drowned. And that's without a pulse. drowned. And that's without a pulse. drowned. And that's without a pulse. That's without brain activity because That's without brain activity because That's without brain activity because the body when it's cold enters it's not the body when it's cold enters it's not the body when it's cold enters it's not even right to call it a coma but enters even right to call it a coma but enters even right to call it a coma but enters this um state in which it is not active. this um state in which it is not active. this um state in which it is not active. It's not thermodynamically It's not thermodynamically It's not thermodynamically giving any signs of being alive but it giving any signs of being alive but it giving any signs of being alive but it can be resuscitated because it is not can be resuscitated because it is not can be resuscitated because it is not damaged either. And when this happens damaged either. And when this happens damaged either. And when this happens she rewarms the body, resuscitates them she rewarms the body, resuscitates them she rewarms the body, resuscitates them and they come back to life. These people and they come back to life. These people and they come back to life. These people are lucid. They're like, "What am I are lucid. They're like, "What am I are lucid. They're like, "What am I doing here?" You know, I I was just uh I doing here?" You know, I I was just uh I doing here?" You know, I I was just uh I was diving in the lake with my buddies. was diving in the lake with my buddies. was diving in the lake with my buddies. How did I get here? They do not suffer How did I get here? They do not suffer How did I get here? They do not suffer the kinds of brain injury that you can the kinds of brain injury that you can the kinds of brain injury that you can when your body temperature gets too when your body temperature gets too when your body temperature gets too high. Now, we talked a little bit about high. Now, we talked a little bit about high. Now, we talked a little bit about the neuroprotective factors that are the neuroprotective factors that are the neuroprotective factors that are produced by brown fat when it's produced by brown fat when it's produced by brown fat when it's activated. And I think that's important, activated. And I think that's important, activated. And I think that's important, particularly if you have traumatic brain particularly if you have traumatic brain particularly if you have traumatic brain injury and you're trying to heal the injury and you're trying to heal the injury and you're trying to heal the brain. Brown fat and cold are super brain. Brown fat and cold are super brain. Brown fat and cold are super important. The cold increasing perfusion

1:08important. The cold increasing perfusion important. The cold increasing perfusion in the brain for example can increase in the brain for example can increase in the brain for example can increase healing and the neuroprotective factors healing and the neuroprotective factors healing and the neuroprotective factors can help rebuild those neurons that have can help rebuild those neurons that have can help rebuild those neurons that have been damaged in traumatic brain injury. been damaged in traumatic brain injury. been damaged in traumatic brain injury. But the relationship between brain But the relationship between brain But the relationship between brain activity and temperature itself. The activity and temperature itself. The activity and temperature itself. The cold is inherently protective of the cold is inherently protective of the cold is inherently protective of the brain whereas the heat is not. brain whereas the heat is not. brain whereas the heat is not. >> Wow. It makes you think that, you know, >> Wow. It makes you think that, you know, >> Wow. It makes you think that, you know, we can preserve human beings in ice, you we can preserve human beings in ice, you we can preserve human beings in ice, you know, probably for thousands of years know, probably for thousands of years know, probably for thousands of years and they they would still be, you know, and they they would still be, you know, and they they would still be, you know, if you reheat them back up or to a if you reheat them back up or to a if you reheat them back up or to a regular temperature, they come back to regular temperature, they come back to regular temperature, they come back to life. That would be absolutely wild. life. That would be absolutely wild. life. That would be absolutely wild. >> You and for an important reason. and for an important reason. >> Um, the ice, the cold is protective of >> Um, the ice, the cold is protective of >> Um, the ice, the cold is protective of the brain. But once you begin to create the brain. But once you begin to create the brain. But once you begin to create ice inside the cells of the body, that's ice inside the cells of the body, that's ice inside the cells of the body, that's frostbite. The expansion of the water frostbite. The expansion of the water frostbite. The expansion of the water into the cryst ice structure can destroy into the cryst ice structure can destroy into the cryst ice structure can destroy the integrity of the cells. Now, there's the integrity of the cells. Now, there's the integrity of the cells. Now, there's this, you know, uh what is it? A tree this, you know, uh what is it? A tree this, you know, uh what is it? A tree frog. You can freeze it solid and then

1:09frog. You can freeze it solid and then frog. You can freeze it solid and then you can thaw it out and it'll start you can thaw it out and it'll start you can thaw it out and it'll start hopping around again. There are like hopping around again. There are like hopping around again. There are like some instances of, you know, of complex some instances of, you know, of complex some instances of, you know, of complex biology that can be frozen solid. Human biology that can be frozen solid. Human biology that can be frozen solid. Human beings are not one of them. beings are not one of them. beings are not one of them. Yeah, it makes sense because when you Yeah, it makes sense because when you Yeah, it makes sense because when you put a fruit in the in the freezer, put a fruit in the in the freezer, put a fruit in the in the freezer, right, it usually expands or loses its right, it usually expands or loses its right, it usually expands or loses its structure. And that's probably what structure. And that's probably what structure. And that's probably what happens because like ice, you know, happens because like ice, you know, happens because like ice, you know, water normally expands whereas our water normally expands whereas our water normally expands whereas our system is probably not. And if you kept system is probably not. And if you kept system is probably not. And if you kept us in water, our body would probably us in water, our body would probably us in water, our body would probably start to disintegrate, right? Or start to disintegrate, right? Or start to disintegrate, right? Or something like that. If it was kept in something like that. If it was kept in something like that. If it was kept in the water long enough, the water long enough, the water long enough, >> probably right. >> probably right. >> probably right. >> So, let's talk a little bit about your >> So, let's talk a little bit about your >> So, let's talk a little bit about your light, that green light, because that's light, that green light, because that's light, that green light, because that's very interesting. I don't know much very interesting. I don't know much very interesting. I don't know much about it. Uh why would someone want to about it. Uh why would someone want to about it. Uh why would someone want to shine this light into their eyes or shine this light into their eyes or shine this light into their eyes or their face? their face? their face? >> To relieve pain and anxiety. It turns >> To relieve pain and anxiety. It turns >> To relieve pain and anxiety. It turns out that this is um narrowband LED out that this is um narrowband LED out that this is um narrowband LED green. It turns out that that green green. It turns out that that green green. It turns out that that green light, we don't know the mechanisms, but light, we don't know the mechanisms, but light, we don't know the mechanisms, but that green light will relieve migraine

1:10that green light will relieve migraine that green light will relieve migraine pain and reduce anxiety. So why would pain and reduce anxiety. So why would pain and reduce anxiety. So why would that be? The dominant wavelengths of that be? The dominant wavelengths of that be? The dominant wavelengths of light in the shady forest are near light in the shady forest are near light in the shady forest are near infrared and green. Well, this makes infrared and green. Well, this makes infrared and green. Well, this makes sense. When have we ever, you know, as sense. When have we ever, you know, as sense. When have we ever, you know, as human beings failed to feel calm, failed human beings failed to feel calm, failed human beings failed to feel calm, failed to get that sense of relaxation from to get that sense of relaxation from to get that sense of relaxation from being in nature, being surrounded by the being in nature, being surrounded by the being in nature, being surrounded by the trees. Now, I'm I'm not talking trees. Now, I'm I'm not talking trees. Now, I'm I'm not talking scientifically, but I'm talking scientifically, but I'm talking scientifically, but I'm talking experientially. Of course, the green experientially. Of course, the green experientially. Of course, the green shady forest, you know, fills us with a shady forest, you know, fills us with a shady forest, you know, fills us with a sense of confidence and serenity. In sense of confidence and serenity. In sense of confidence and serenity. In Japan, there is a practice called forest Japan, there is a practice called forest Japan, there is a practice called forest bathing. And they send people out into bathing. And they send people out into bathing. And they send people out into the forest just for a few hours a week. the forest just for a few hours a week. the forest just for a few hours a week. It speeds wound healing. It improves It speeds wound healing. It improves It speeds wound healing. It improves mood and metabolism. It makes them in mood and metabolism. It makes them in mood and metabolism. It makes them in general healthier in all aspects. And general healthier in all aspects. And general healthier in all aspects. And they used to think it was because the they used to think it was because the they used to think it was because the leaves and the coniferous boris, you leaves and the coniferous boris, you leaves and the coniferous boris, you know, release something into the air and

1:11know, release something into the air and know, release something into the air and it gives you that pine smell. I think it gives you that pine smell. I think it gives you that pine smell. I think there's some truth to that. It does not there's some truth to that. It does not there's some truth to that. It does not mean that you want an air freshener in mean that you want an air freshener in mean that you want an air freshener in your kitchen to try and recreate that your kitchen to try and recreate that your kitchen to try and recreate that pine smell with these artificial. Forget pine smell with these artificial. Forget pine smell with these artificial. Forget that, right? I think that the air in the that, right? I think that the air in the that, right? I think that the air in the forest is good. But what we've been forest is good. But what we've been forest is good. But what we've been overlooking is the light in the forest. overlooking is the light in the forest. overlooking is the light in the forest. So there was a study at Harvard So there was a study at Harvard So there was a study at Harvard University with migrers. One of the University with migrers. One of the University with migrers. One of the things about having a migraine is you things about having a migraine is you things about having a migraine is you become phototoobic. Any amount of light become phototoobic. Any amount of light become phototoobic. Any amount of light can increase the pain. And so migrainers can increase the pain. And so migrainers can increase the pain. And so migrainers will lock themselves in a dark bedroom will lock themselves in a dark bedroom will lock themselves in a dark bedroom or in a closet or something for hours or in a closet or something for hours or in a closet or something for hours until the migraine pain passes. And so until the migraine pain passes. And so until the migraine pain passes. And so at Harvard they wanted to study this and at Harvard they wanted to study this and at Harvard they wanted to study this and they tested each wavelength individually they tested each wavelength individually they tested each wavelength individually and every single wavelength including and every single wavelength including and every single wavelength including the white which is all the wavelengths the white which is all the wavelengths the white which is all the wavelengths together made the migraine worse except together made the migraine worse except together made the migraine worse except green where they got a reduction in green where they got a reduction in green where they got a reduction in migraine pain. University of Arizona migraine pain. University of Arizona migraine pain. University of Arizona does a follow-up study and they're using does a follow-up study and they're using does a follow-up study and they're using narrowband green LED light and they saw narrowband green LED light and they saw narrowband green LED light and they saw among chronic migranters. I forget the

1:12among chronic migranters. I forget the among chronic migranters. I forget the exact statistics but it's something like exact statistics but it's something like exact statistics but it's something like a 60% or an 80% reduction in the a 60% or an 80% reduction in the a 60% or an 80% reduction in the frequency and the severity of the frequency and the severity of the frequency and the severity of the migraines. So these papers they showed migraines. So these papers they showed migraines. So these papers they showed up you know in my inbox somehow. I was up you know in my inbox somehow. I was up you know in my inbox somehow. I was working on a vitamin D lamp and working on a vitamin D lamp and working on a vitamin D lamp and photothapy and probably Google thought photothapy and probably Google thought photothapy and probably Google thought I'd be interested in some papers on I'd be interested in some papers on I'd be interested in some papers on green phototherapy. Turns out that I was green phototherapy. Turns out that I was green phototherapy. Turns out that I was dating a woman who experienced regular dating a woman who experienced regular dating a woman who experienced regular and debilitating migraines. So I said, and debilitating migraines. So I said, and debilitating migraines. So I said, "Hey, you know, let's try some of this "Hey, you know, let's try some of this "Hey, you know, let's try some of this green light." I bought one of these green light." I bought one of these green light." I bought one of these commercial devices that was based upon commercial devices that was based upon commercial devices that was based upon the Harvard study. And she had a the Harvard study. And she had a the Harvard study. And she had a headache. And I asked her to try it. She headache. And I asked her to try it. She headache. And I asked her to try it. She said, "If I hold my eyes in just the said, "If I hold my eyes in just the said, "If I hold my eyes in just the right way and I relax my face in just right way and I relax my face in just right way and I relax my face in just the right way, I can feel a little bit the right way, I can feel a little bit the right way, I can feel a little bit of benefit in headache reduction." Said, of benefit in headache reduction." Said, of benefit in headache reduction." Said, "Okay, that's interesting." I called up "Okay, that's interesting." I called up "Okay, that's interesting." I called up a friend who's in the red light business a friend who's in the red light business a friend who's in the red light business and I asked him to make a portable red and I asked him to make a portable red and I asked him to make a portable red light device but put green in it light device but put green in it light device but put green in it instead. instead. instead. >> Yeah, >> Yeah, >> Yeah, >> he did. He called me up and he said, >> he did. He called me up and he said, >> he did. He called me up and he said, "Tom, this is garbage. It's too bright. "Tom, this is garbage. It's too bright. "Tom, this is garbage. It's too bright. You know, it's going to give you a You know, it's going to give you a You know, it's going to give you a headache if you didn't have one." And

1:13headache if you didn't have one." And headache if you didn't have one." And sure enough, the Harvard study showed sure enough, the Harvard study showed sure enough, the Harvard study showed that green was only beneficial at low that green was only beneficial at low that green was only beneficial at low intensities. intensities. intensities. >> So, my girlfriend and I, we went out to >> So, my girlfriend and I, we went out to >> So, my girlfriend and I, we went out to v take a look at the prototype and she's v take a look at the prototype and she's v take a look at the prototype and she's already got a headache. She's about a already got a headache. She's about a already got a headache. She's about a six on a out of 10 on headache. And I'm six on a out of 10 on headache. And I'm six on a out of 10 on headache. And I'm like, "Well, come on, honey. You know, like, "Well, come on, honey. You know, like, "Well, come on, honey. You know, we're going to check this out." I'm we're going to check this out." I'm we're going to check this out." I'm like, "Oh gosh, he's right. Oh, this is like, "Oh gosh, he's right. Oh, this is like, "Oh gosh, he's right. Oh, this is terrible. We could never sell this." She terrible. We could never sell this." She terrible. We could never sell this." She says, "Let me see that." She takes it says, "Let me see that." She takes it says, "Let me see that." She takes it out of my hand. She closes her eyes. She out of my hand. She closes her eyes. She out of my hand. She closes her eyes. She puts it right up against her face and puts it right up against her face and puts it right up against her face and she says, "This feels really good." What she says, "This feels really good." What she says, "This feels really good." What happened, Andreas, was closing the eyes happened, Andreas, was closing the eyes happened, Andreas, was closing the eyes blocked out all the painful wavelengths. blocked out all the painful wavelengths. blocked out all the painful wavelengths. When you close the eyes, attenuate about When you close the eyes, attenuate about When you close the eyes, attenuate about 70% of the light intensity. With the 70% of the light intensity. With the 70% of the light intensity. With the eyes closed, this high intensity green eyes closed, this high intensity green eyes closed, this high intensity green was an advantage, not a disadvantage, was an advantage, not a disadvantage, was an advantage, not a disadvantage, because it meant it was the only because it meant it was the only because it meant it was the only wavelength of light penetrating to the wavelength of light penetrating to the wavelength of light penetrating to the retina. It took her headache from a six retina. It took her headache from a six retina. It took her headache from a six down to a two right away. So, I started down to a two right away. So, I started down to a two right away. So, I started testing these with other migrainers. testing these with other migrainers.

1:14testing these with other migrainers. When she had a fullon like visual When she had a fullon like visual When she had a fullon like visual distortion migraine, I begged her to try distortion migraine, I begged her to try distortion migraine, I begged her to try the green light. She said, "No, no, I the green light. She said, "No, no, I the green light. She said, "No, no, I know my sequence. You know, I'm going to know my sequence. You know, I'm going to know my sequence. You know, I'm going to have this and the pain's going to hit have this and the pain's going to hit have this and the pain's going to hit here and then take some meds there and here and then take some meds there and here and then take some meds there and I'll be out for about four hours." I I'll be out for about four hours." I I'll be out for about four hours." I said, said, said, >> "Please try it." She experienced all of >> "Please try it." She experienced all of >> "Please try it." She experienced all of the normal symptoms, that is the visual the normal symptoms, that is the visual the normal symptoms, that is the visual distortion, the brain fog, the loss of distortion, the brain fog, the loss of distortion, the brain fog, the loss of cognition, no pain, zero pain, and she cognition, no pain, zero pain, and she cognition, no pain, zero pain, and she didn't take any meds. So now I'm getting didn't take any meds. So now I'm getting didn't take any meds. So now I'm getting these reports. Sinus headache pain gone. these reports. Sinus headache pain gone. these reports. Sinus headache pain gone. Postconussion headache pain gone. High Postconussion headache pain gone. High Postconussion headache pain gone. High altitude headache pain gone. Certainly altitude headache pain gone. Certainly altitude headache pain gone. Certainly migraine headache headache pain gone. migraine headache headache pain gone. migraine headache headache pain gone. The only headache that the green light The only headache that the green light The only headache that the green light can't seem to touch is what I call a can't seem to touch is what I call a can't seem to touch is what I call a high estrogen headache that some women high estrogen headache that some women high estrogen headache that some women get at a certain part of their cycle. get at a certain part of their cycle. get at a certain part of their cycle. every other headache, male, female, every other headache, male, female, every other headache, male, female, adults, children, without medication, 10 adults, children, without medication, 10 adults, children, without medication, 10 minutes of this highintensity narrow

1:15minutes of this highintensity narrow minutes of this highintensity narrow band green wavelength takes the pain band green wavelength takes the pain band green wavelength takes the pain away. This is a remarkable finding that away. This is a remarkable finding that away. This is a remarkable finding that I wish more people would know because I wish more people would know because I wish more people would know because migraine is a billion dollar a day migraine is a billion dollar a day migraine is a billion dollar a day problem just in the United States. But problem just in the United States. But problem just in the United States. But Andreas, nobody believes me. You know, I Andreas, nobody believes me. You know, I Andreas, nobody believes me. You know, I go on, you know, Instagram or something go on, you know, Instagram or something go on, you know, Instagram or something and I say, "Yeah, yeah, close your eyes and I say, "Yeah, yeah, close your eyes and I say, "Yeah, yeah, close your eyes 10 minutes, no migraine pain." and they 10 minutes, no migraine pain." and they 10 minutes, no migraine pain." and they think I'm a liar. They have to try it think I'm a liar. They have to try it think I'm a liar. They have to try it for themselves and then they write me for themselves and then they write me for themselves and then they write me and they say, "This is unbelievable. and they say, "This is unbelievable. and they say, "This is unbelievable. This is incredible. This must be a This is incredible. This must be a This is incredible. This must be a miracle because my headache pain is miracle because my headache pain is miracle because my headache pain is gone." gone." gone." >> Well, what you're doing is a great >> Well, what you're doing is a great >> Well, what you're doing is a great service to the world for sure because service to the world for sure because service to the world for sure because it's and it's amazing that you are it's and it's amazing that you are it's and it's amazing that you are sharing this information because first sharing this information because first sharing this information because first of all, you brought it to my awareness. of all, you brought it to my awareness. of all, you brought it to my awareness. I wasn't aware about it. So it's so cool I wasn't aware about it. So it's so cool I wasn't aware about it. So it's so cool to learn new things and also the fact to learn new things and also the fact to learn new things and also the fact that light touches every single aspect that light touches every single aspect that light touches every single aspect of your body, every single aspect of of of your body, every single aspect of of of your body, every single aspect of of your biology. So anybody who thinks that your biology. So anybody who thinks that your biology. So anybody who thinks that light cannot possibly influence clearly light cannot possibly influence clearly light cannot possibly influence clearly just does not understand quantum

1:16just does not understand quantum just does not understand quantum biology, circadian biology, it's it is biology, circadian biology, it's it is biology, circadian biology, it's it is the foundation of our health. You know, the foundation of our health. You know, the foundation of our health. You know, our circadian rhythms are basically the our circadian rhythms are basically the our circadian rhythms are basically the way that our body is supposed to respond way that our body is supposed to respond way that our body is supposed to respond to light. You know, it just tells you to light. You know, it just tells you to light. You know, it just tells you that your body is wired and you can that your body is wired and you can that your body is wired and you can manipulate the way that your body manipulate the way that your body manipulate the way that your body responds based on different light responds based on different light responds based on different light frequencies. We know that for example, frequencies. We know that for example, frequencies. We know that for example, when we're when we're exposed to when we're when we're exposed to when we're when we're exposed to artificial blue light in isolation, we artificial blue light in isolation, we artificial blue light in isolation, we get negative like you know uh symptoms. get negative like you know uh symptoms. get negative like you know uh symptoms. When we are exposed to blue light from When we are exposed to blue light from When we are exposed to blue light from the sun in combination with all the the sun in combination with all the the sun in combination with all the other colors of the spectrum, the red other colors of the spectrum, the red other colors of the spectrum, the red there in near infrared, the UV, we there in near infrared, the UV, we there in near infrared, the UV, we actually have a massive benefit because actually have a massive benefit because actually have a massive benefit because that's actually entraining the circadian that's actually entraining the circadian that's actually entraining the circadian mechanism. is actually accelerating our mechanism. is actually accelerating our mechanism. is actually accelerating our metabolism, right? And the same thing metabolism, right? And the same thing metabolism, right? And the same thing for example, just studying even as well for example, just studying even as well for example, just studying even as well red and infrared light in isolation is red and infrared light in isolation is red and infrared light in isolation is incredible for the body and the incredible for the body and the incredible for the body and the mitochondria and that exclusion zone mitochondria and that exclusion zone mitochondria and that exclusion zone water. So again, your panel that this water. So again, your panel that this water. So again, your panel that this green panel that you have made is green panel that you have made is green panel that you have made is another incredible addition biohack that

1:17another incredible addition biohack that another incredible addition biohack that people can have in their you know in people can have in their you know in people can have in their you know in their homes in case they actually need their homes in case they actually need their homes in case they actually need it. And why take a pill when you can use it. And why take a pill when you can use it. And why take a pill when you can use light as your medicine? because actually light as your medicine? because actually light as your medicine? because actually it I can imagine it has very little side it I can imagine it has very little side it I can imagine it has very little side effects. Right. effects. Right. effects. Right. >> I'm tired of the term biohacking. It >> I'm tired of the term biohacking. It >> I'm tired of the term biohacking. It makes it seem like there's some makes it seem like there's some makes it seem like there's some technological software code shortcut to technological software code shortcut to technological software code shortcut to health. health. health. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> And I don't think of it that way. Um I >> And I don't think of it that way. Um I >> And I don't think of it that way. Um I think about uh returning to nature. I think about uh returning to nature. I think about uh returning to nature. I think about, think about, think about, >> you know, there are no trees. There's no >> you know, there are no trees. There's no >> you know, there are no trees. There's no shady forest in Phoenix, Arizona. So how shady forest in Phoenix, Arizona. So how shady forest in Phoenix, Arizona. So how am I going to get the benefit of the am I going to get the benefit of the am I going to get the benefit of the green light? I need to build a machine green light? I need to build a machine green light? I need to build a machine that is going to bring the forest to me. that is going to bring the forest to me. that is going to bring the forest to me. There is no beachfront in Arizona. So There is no beachfront in Arizona. So There is no beachfront in Arizona. So how am I going to get the benefit of the how am I going to get the benefit of the how am I going to get the benefit of the salt water? I must build a machine that salt water? I must build a machine that salt water? I must build a machine that brings the ocean to me. Now some people brings the ocean to me. Now some people brings the ocean to me. Now some people will say that's bio. But I don't think will say that's bio. But I don't think will say that's bio. But I don't think so. I think it's like biohav. If there so. I think it's like biohav. If there so. I think it's like biohav. If there are things absent from my environment are things absent from my environment are things absent from my environment because technology, you know, I can use because technology, you know, I can use because technology, you know, I can use technology to create the environment

1:18technology to create the environment technology to create the environment that my body needs. And it doesn't have that my body needs. And it doesn't have that my body needs. And it doesn't have to be all the time. It can be a few to be all the time. It can be a few to be all the time. It can be a few minutes a day. It can be 10 minutes a minutes a day. It can be 10 minutes a minutes a day. It can be 10 minutes a day of green. It could be four minutes a day of green. It could be four minutes a day of green. It could be four minutes a day of ice bath and these things will day of ice bath and these things will day of ice bath and these things will repair. It's enough to repair a lot of repair. It's enough to repair a lot of repair. It's enough to repair a lot of the damage that has been done by being the damage that has been done by being the damage that has been done by being disconnected from our environment. I disconnected from our environment. I disconnected from our environment. I would much rather take that approach would much rather take that approach would much rather take that approach than start doing, you know, speed than start doing, you know, speed than start doing, you know, speed running NAD drips or if you have a running NAD drips or if you have a running NAD drips or if you have a serious ailment and peptide therapy is serious ailment and peptide therapy is serious ailment and peptide therapy is going to fix it, do it. There are going to fix it, do it. There are going to fix it, do it. There are occasions for bio hacks, but just as occasions for bio hacks, but just as occasions for bio hacks, but just as your regular lifestyle, more of a bio your regular lifestyle, more of a bio your regular lifestyle, more of a bio have kind of guy. have kind of guy. have kind of guy. >> I love that. Fantastic. Is there >> I love that. Fantastic. Is there >> I love that. Fantastic. Is there anything that we didn't cover today that anything that we didn't cover today that anything that we didn't cover today that you would like to talk about because I you would like to talk about because I you would like to talk about because I feel like we touched on so much, but I feel like we touched on so much, but I feel like we touched on so much, but I there's also so much that I'm not aware there's also so much that I'm not aware there's also so much that I'm not aware of and that I don't know. So, is there of and that I don't know. So, is there of and that I don't know. So, is there something that was important that we something that was important that we something that was important that we didn't mention today? didn't mention today? didn't mention today? >> There is one thing and it is >> There is one thing and it is >> There is one thing and it is relationships. You were talking about relationships. You were talking about relationships. You were talking about the heart. It is not a metaphor. Um, you

1:19the heart. It is not a metaphor. Um, you the heart. It is not a metaphor. Um, you know, we use the heart as the metaphor know, we use the heart as the metaphor know, we use the heart as the metaphor for love and attachment and for love and attachment and for love and attachment and connectivity. And I don't think it is connectivity. And I don't think it is connectivity. And I don't think it is just a metaphor. I think there's so much just a metaphor. I think there's so much just a metaphor. I think there's so much wisdom in the folktales and the wisdom in the folktales and the wisdom in the folktales and the metaphors that we use when we relate our metaphors that we use when we relate our metaphors that we use when we relate our emotions to the body. And so the emotions to the body. And so the emotions to the body. And so the question that I've been asking at question that I've been asking at question that I've been asking at Morazzco is how do we build an ice bath Morazzco is how do we build an ice bath Morazzco is how do we build an ice bath that will help bring people closer that will help bring people closer that will help bring people closer together? You get in the sauna and it together? You get in the sauna and it together? You get in the sauna and it could be you and four or five other could be you and four or five other could be you and four or five other people and you're doing it together and people and you're doing it together and people and you're doing it together and you feel a stronger sense of attachment. you feel a stronger sense of attachment. you feel a stronger sense of attachment. Part of the neurological and health Part of the neurological and health Part of the neurological and health benefits of the sauna is the fact that benefits of the sauna is the fact that benefits of the sauna is the fact that you're doing it with other people. And you're doing it with other people. And you're doing it with other people. And no one has done this study to say is no one has done this study to say is no one has done this study to say is sauna with friends more beneficial than sauna with friends more beneficial than sauna with friends more beneficial than sauna alone. But your intuition in mind sauna alone. But your intuition in mind sauna alone. But your intuition in mind is telling well of course it is you know is telling well of course it is you know is telling well of course it is you know >> right now all cold plunges on the market >> right now all cold plunges on the market >> right now all cold plunges on the market are focused to doing it individually.

1:20are focused to doing it individually. are focused to doing it individually. you know, they have some temporary like you know, they have some temporary like you know, they have some temporary like popups, but I've been thinking, how do popups, but I've been thinking, how do popups, but I've been thinking, how do we build the ice bath experience that we build the ice bath experience that we build the ice bath experience that you share with other people? Because you share with other people? Because you share with other people? Because some of the data that we've got shows some of the data that we've got shows some of the data that we've got shows that it is a bonding experience. It is a that it is a bonding experience. It is a that it is a bonding experience. It is a relationshipbuilding experience. And relationshipbuilding experience. And relationshipbuilding experience. And that is probably the mechanism, one of that is probably the mechanism, one of that is probably the mechanism, one of the mechanisms by which you keep your the mechanisms by which you keep your the mechanisms by which you keep your heart and your other vital organs heart and your other vital organs heart and your other vital organs healthy. healthy. >> That's amazing. And do you feel like do >> That's amazing. And do you feel like do >> That's amazing. And do you feel like do you do you feel that like it increases you do you feel that like it increases you do you feel that like it increases oxytocin as well when you're in the oxytocin as well when you're in the oxytocin as well when you're in the cold? cold? cold? >> I know it does. Yep. There's good data >> I know it does. Yep. There's good data >> I know it does. Yep. There's good data on that. It increases oxytocin. It on that. It increases oxytocin. It on that. It increases oxytocin. It increases vasopressin. So in addition to increases vasopressin. So in addition to increases vasopressin. So in addition to the dopamine and the noradrenaline and the dopamine and the noradrenaline and the dopamine and the noradrenaline and the adrenaline, you get these other the adrenaline, you get these other the adrenaline, you get these other hormonal benefits that cause you to feel hormonal benefits that cause you to feel hormonal benefits that cause you to feel closer or more attached to your closer or more attached to your closer or more attached to your partners. partners. partners. >> Wow. Yeah. And I guess that also plays >> Wow. Yeah. And I guess that also plays >> Wow. Yeah. And I guess that also plays such an important role with the hormone such an important role with the hormone such an important role with the hormone optimization like the fertility and the

1:21optimization like the fertility and the optimization like the fertility and the testosterone as well, right? Because testosterone as well, right? Because testosterone as well, right? Because that drive and that feeling that you that drive and that feeling that you that drive and that feeling that you want to be close to your partner for want to be close to your partner for want to be close to your partner for example, it it kind of all goes together example, it it kind of all goes together example, it it kind of all goes together like hand in hand. It's not like as you like hand in hand. It's not like as you like hand in hand. It's not like as you mentioned, it's all a system. So you mentioned, it's all a system. So you mentioned, it's all a system. So you have to have all the pieces of the have to have all the pieces of the have to have all the pieces of the puzzle. You can't just have the puzzle. You can't just have the puzzle. You can't just have the testosterone, you know, just, you know, testosterone, you know, just, you know, testosterone, you know, just, you know, just floating around. you have the all just floating around. you have the all just floating around. you have the all all those other beneficial things that all those other beneficial things that all those other beneficial things that are going on that that accommodate this are going on that that accommodate this are going on that that accommodate this feeling of love, right? feeling of love, right? feeling of love, right? >> You're when you get into the cold plunge >> You're when you get into the cold plunge >> You're when you get into the cold plunge with your partner, it is like a love with your partner, it is like a love with your partner, it is like a love potion. all of those hormones and potion. all of those hormones and potion. all of those hormones and neurotransmitters associated with every neurotransmitters associated with every neurotransmitters associated with every dimension of love, whether that's lust dimension of love, whether that's lust dimension of love, whether that's lust or uh romance or the feeling of familial or uh romance or the feeling of familial or uh romance or the feeling of familial attachment. They are all augmented by attachment. They are all augmented by attachment. They are all augmented by the experience you have with your the experience you have with your the experience you have with your partner in the ice bath. And I've partner in the ice bath. And I've partner in the ice bath. And I've experienced this for myself. This is the experienced this for myself. This is the experienced this for myself. This is the same woman who has migraine headaches. same woman who has migraine headaches. same woman who has migraine headaches. We're in such an enormous argument, but We're in such an enormous argument, but We're in such an enormous argument, but we'd agreed to do a photo shoot. You we'd agreed to do a photo shoot. You we'd agreed to do a photo shoot. You know, relationships are like that know, relationships are like that

1:22know, relationships are like that sometimes where I was full of resentment sometimes where I was full of resentment sometimes where I was full of resentment for her and she was full of resentment for her and she was full of resentment for her and she was full of resentment for me and you. We have a video of this for me and you. We have a video of this for me and you. We have a video of this and it's not very good because we and it's not very good because we and it's not very good because we procrastinated until the light was procrastinated until the light was procrastinated until the light was crappy and the capture was not very but crappy and the capture was not very but crappy and the capture was not very but we said, "Okay, you know, this is what we said, "Okay, you know, this is what we said, "Okay, you know, this is what we're here for. We got to do it." And we we're here for. We got to do it." And we we're here for. We got to do it." And we went in and we held hands and we looked went in and we held hands and we looked went in and we held hands and we looked at one another at one another at one another and she broke a smile. I thought, "Okay, and she broke a smile. I thought, "Okay, and she broke a smile. I thought, "Okay, that's good." Then she started to giggle that's good." Then she started to giggle that's good." Then she started to giggle and then she started to crack jokes, you and then she started to crack jokes, you and then she started to crack jokes, you know, with the camera crew and I'm like, know, with the camera crew and I'm like, know, with the camera crew and I'm like, "Well, this is all right." You know, my "Well, this is all right." You know, my "Well, this is all right." You know, my resentment melted away. Men need to resentment melted away. Men need to resentment melted away. Men need to exercise after the ice bath to get the exercise after the ice bath to get the exercise after the ice bath to get the testosterone boost, but women do not. testosterone boost, but women do not. testosterone boost, but women do not. Women get an immediate testosterone Women get an immediate testosterone Women get an immediate testosterone boost. So, not only was her resentment boost. So, not only was her resentment boost. So, not only was her resentment melting away, but her testosterone was melting away, but her testosterone was melting away, but her testosterone was going up. And as you know, testosterone going up. And as you know, testosterone going up. And as you know, testosterone is the lust hormone. So, after about 2 is the lust hormone. So, after about 2 is the lust hormone. So, after about 2 minutes, maybe 2 minutes 15 seconds, she minutes, maybe 2 minutes 15 seconds, she minutes, maybe 2 minutes 15 seconds, she reaches in, she leans in. We're holding reaches in, she leans in. We're holding reaches in, she leans in. We're holding hands, we're making eye contact, we're hands, we're making eye contact, we're hands, we're making eye contact, we're breathing together, and I pull her a

1:23breathing together, and I pull her a breathing together, and I pull her a little closer, and she kisses me on the little closer, and she kisses me on the little closer, and she kisses me on the lips. We start making out in the ice lips. We start making out in the ice lips. We start making out in the ice bath. All of our arguments were bath. All of our arguments were bath. All of our arguments were forgotten. My daughter is the forgotten. My daughter is the forgotten. My daughter is the videographer, and she's like, "Okay, videographer, and she's like, "Okay, videographer, and she's like, "Okay, cut." You know, that's we got it. We cut." You know, that's we got it. We cut." You know, that's we got it. We have everything we need. You two get a have everything we need. You two get a have everything we need. You two get a room. We had the best weekend. We fell room. We had the best weekend. We fell room. We had the best weekend. We fell back in love. And it wasn't because of back in love. And it wasn't because of back in love. And it wasn't because of talk therapy. It wasn't because of talk therapy. It wasn't because of talk therapy. It wasn't because of compromise or understanding. It was compromise or understanding. It was compromise or understanding. It was because we created the neurochemical because we created the neurochemical because we created the neurochemical conditions of attachment. Andreas, I conditions of attachment. Andreas, I conditions of attachment. Andreas, I wish we could have kept that feeling our wish we could have kept that feeling our wish we could have kept that feeling our whole lives. How many times have we done whole lives. How many times have we done whole lives. How many times have we done an ice bath together since then? Zero. an ice bath together since then? Zero. an ice bath together since then? Zero. And not going out anymore. And not going out anymore. And not going out anymore. I recommend cold plunge with your I recommend cold plunge with your I recommend cold plunge with your partner. Anytime you're beginning to partner. Anytime you're beginning to partner. Anytime you're beginning to feel those relationship doubts, you want feel those relationship doubts, you want feel those relationship doubts, you want to reconnect. You want to give the to reconnect. You want to give the to reconnect. You want to give the relationship the boost that it needs in relationship the boost that it needs in relationship the boost that it needs in that moment. Get in the ice bath that moment. Get in the ice bath that moment. Get in the ice bath together, hold hands, make the eye

1:24together, hold hands, make the eye together, hold hands, make the eye contact, breathe together, spend two contact, breathe together, spend two contact, breathe together, spend two minutes, and when you come out, rewarm minutes, and when you come out, rewarm minutes, and when you come out, rewarm together. You will feel closer. together. You will feel closer. together. You will feel closer. >> That's fantastic. Yeah, wonderful >> That's fantastic. Yeah, wonderful >> That's fantastic. Yeah, wonderful breakdown. And thank you for adding the breakdown. And thank you for adding the breakdown. And thank you for adding the relationships in there as well because relationships in there as well because relationships in there as well because that is a very undertalked about that is a very undertalked about that is a very undertalked about discussion in terms of health in general discussion in terms of health in general discussion in terms of health in general because we tend to forget you know that because we tend to forget you know that because we tend to forget you know that our emotions and the way that we feel our emotions and the way that we feel our emotions and the way that we feel about each other massively influences about each other massively influences about each other massively influences our health. I mean we can see that so our health. I mean we can see that so our health. I mean we can see that so many things in physics like biopysics is many things in physics like biopysics is many things in physics like biopysics is altering our biochemistry right. So altering our biochemistry right. So altering our biochemistry right. So obviously uh brain waves and thought is obviously uh brain waves and thought is obviously uh brain waves and thought is frequency and that is obviously going to frequency and that is obviously going to frequency and that is obviously going to impact our our biophysical our quantum impact our our biophysical our quantum impact our our biophysical our quantum system really that is is is just system really that is is is just system really that is is is just constantly scanning its environment constantly scanning its environment constantly scanning its environment trying to pick up this vital trying to pick up this vital trying to pick up this vital information. So last question would be information. So last question would be information. So last question would be for you to explain to the audience why for you to explain to the audience why for you to explain to the audience why your ice baths are the top on the market your ice baths are the top on the market your ice baths are the top on the market and I also believe that they are as and I also believe that they are as and I also believe that they are as well. They are also the first ice bath

1:25well. They are also the first ice bath well. They are also the first ice bath really which I ever heard of which you really which I ever heard of which you really which I ever heard of which you know is was self-cleaning uh grounding know is was self-cleaning uh grounding know is was self-cleaning uh grounding and all the materials everything about and all the materials everything about and all the materials everything about it looks like super premium and I think it looks like super premium and I think it looks like super premium and I think the first time which I ever heard about the first time which I ever heard about the first time which I ever heard about your ice bath actually was on Luke your ice bath actually was on Luke your ice bath actually was on Luke stories podcast and it it wasn't it stories podcast and it it wasn't it stories podcast and it it wasn't it wasn't one of his uh recent episodes it wasn't one of his uh recent episodes it wasn't one of his uh recent episodes it was a really really long time ago it was was a really really long time ago it was was a really really long time ago it was two people who were representing Morosco two people who were representing Morosco two people who were representing Morosco Forge I don't remember their names but Forge I don't remember their names but Forge I don't remember their names but anyway it was sounded So convincing and anyway it was sounded So convincing and anyway it was sounded So convincing and and since then I've been wanting one. So and since then I've been wanting one. So and since then I've been wanting one. So Matt, why don't you tell the audience Matt, why don't you tell the audience Matt, why don't you tell the audience about about about >> former student? >> former student? >> former student? >> Yep. >> Yep. >> Yep. >> Really? Wow, that's amazing. >> Really? Wow, that's amazing. >> Really? Wow, that's amazing. >> His name is Jason Stalpert and that was >> His name is Jason Stalpert and that was >> His name is Jason Stalpert and that was his wife Adrien. Uh Adrien reversed her his wife Adrien. Uh Adrien reversed her his wife Adrien. Uh Adrien reversed her Hashimoto's thyroiditis with ice baths Hashimoto's thyroiditis with ice baths Hashimoto's thyroiditis with ice baths because she grew up in Florida and then because she grew up in Florida and then because she grew up in Florida and then she lived in Phoenix. She had no brown she lived in Phoenix. She had no brown she lived in Phoenix. She had no brown fat. She became disregulated in her fat. She became disregulated in her fat. She became disregulated in her thyroid and when she started getting thyroid and when she started getting thyroid and when she started getting into the Morasco, she recruited brown into the Morasco, she recruited brown into the Morasco, she recruited brown fat. The Hashimoto's gone. And so yes, fat. The Hashimoto's gone. And so yes, fat. The Hashimoto's gone. And so yes, they make a very compelling case and we

1:26they make a very compelling case and we they make a very compelling case and we founded Morse code together although founded Morse code together although founded Morse code together although they don't have a dayto-day role in the they don't have a dayto-day role in the they don't have a dayto-day role in the company anymore. company anymore. company anymore. >> I don't really talk about the technical >> I don't really talk about the technical >> I don't really talk about the technical features. Um but you've asked there are features. Um but you've asked there are features. Um but you've asked there are four. We make ice. We're electrically four. We make ice. We're electrically four. We make ice. We're electrically grounded. We're warranteed for Epsom grounded. We're warranteed for Epsom grounded. We're warranteed for Epsom salt. You can put as much Epsom salt in salt. You can put as much Epsom salt in salt. You can put as much Epsom salt in there as you want. and important the there as you want. and important the there as you want. and important the number one most important thing is that number one most important thing is that number one most important thing is that you feel comfortable with the people you feel comfortable with the people you feel comfortable with the people from whom you are buying. So I don't from whom you are buying. So I don't from whom you are buying. So I don't talk about all the technical features talk about all the technical features talk about all the technical features that much and yes we're chlorine free. that much and yes we're chlorine free. that much and yes we're chlorine free. We use ozone exclusively and it's not We use ozone exclusively and it's not We use ozone exclusively and it's not true to say that it's self cleaning. You true to say that it's self cleaning. You true to say that it's self cleaning. You have to vacuum the lint and the sediment have to vacuum the lint and the sediment have to vacuum the lint and the sediment out every once in a while but you don't out every once in a while but you don't out every once in a while but you don't have to buy chemicals, right? have to buy chemicals, right? have to buy chemicals, right? >> All those things are wonderful. That's >> All those things are wonderful. That's >> All those things are wonderful. That's not the point. The point is, if you want not the point. The point is, if you want not the point. The point is, if you want to know what ice bath to buy, go on to know what ice bath to buy, go on to know what ice bath to buy, go on Facebook Marketplace. You will find a Facebook Marketplace. You will find a Facebook Marketplace. You will find a lot of used cold plunges. Some of them, lot of used cold plunges. Some of them, lot of used cold plunges. Some of them, the owners are like, "Hardly ever used the owners are like, "Hardly ever used the owners are like, "Hardly ever used it." Or a lot of them are like, "Well,

1:27it." Or a lot of them are like, "Well, it." Or a lot of them are like, "Well, all you have to do is fix the chiller all you have to do is fix the chiller all you have to do is fix the chiller and then replplum the thing and then, and then replplum the thing and then, and then replplum the thing and then, you know, repair the filter housing and you know, repair the filter housing and you know, repair the filter housing and then it's all going to be good." Morasco then it's all going to be good." Morasco then it's all going to be good." Morasco is a no regret purchase. You get a is a no regret purchase. You get a is a no regret purchase. You get a 30-day ecstatic guarantee. If you aren't 30-day ecstatic guarantee. If you aren't 30-day ecstatic guarantee. If you aren't experiencing ecstasy, you know, because experiencing ecstasy, you know, because experiencing ecstasy, you know, because that's what the ice bath does, that's that's what the ice bath does, that's that's what the ice bath does, that's fine. You can return it. No, we'll fine. You can return it. No, we'll fine. You can return it. No, we'll refund the product price, not the refund the product price, not the refund the product price, not the shipping, but the product price, and we shipping, but the product price, and we shipping, but the product price, and we will find a home for that ice bath will find a home for that ice bath will find a home for that ice bath somewhere else. The customer service and somewhere else. The customer service and somewhere else. The customer service and the quality at Morocco is unparalleled. the quality at Morocco is unparalleled. the quality at Morocco is unparalleled. And we're competing in an industry in And we're competing in an industry in And we're competing in an industry in which people are buying ads like crazy. which people are buying ads like crazy. which people are buying ads like crazy. Everybody seems to have the next Everybody seems to have the next Everybody seems to have the next revolutionary ultimate cold plunge revolutionary ultimate cold plunge revolutionary ultimate cold plunge technological breakthrough. If what you technological breakthrough. If what you technological breakthrough. If what you really want to do is save money, go to really want to do is save money, go to really want to do is save money, go to Alibaba.com Alibaba.com Alibaba.com where all of our competitors are buying where all of our competitors are buying where all of our competitors are buying their ice baths and save yourself, you their ice baths and save yourself, you their ice baths and save yourself, you know, several thousand euro and just buy know, several thousand euro and just buy know, several thousand euro and just buy it directly from the Chinese where it directly from the Chinese where it directly from the Chinese where everybody else gets it anyway. We are

1:28everybody else gets it anyway. We are everybody else gets it anyway. We are made in America. That might not be an made in America. That might not be an made in America. That might not be an advantage for someone who's in the EU. advantage for someone who's in the EU. advantage for someone who's in the EU. We will ship to the EU. Of course, it's We will ship to the EU. Of course, it's We will ship to the EU. Of course, it's expensive. Every single one of them is expensive. Every single one of them is expensive. Every single one of them is handcrafted in Phoenix, Arizona. And handcrafted in Phoenix, Arizona. And handcrafted in Phoenix, Arizona. And when we have had to do a service call in when we have had to do a service call in when we have had to do a service call in the European Union, we have technicians the European Union, we have technicians the European Union, we have technicians in the EU or we fly somebody over in the EU or we fly somebody over in the EU or we fly somebody over because when you pay because when you pay because when you pay prices, it's because you aren't prices, it's because you aren't prices, it's because you aren't sensitive to price, you are sensitive to sensitive to price, you are sensitive to sensitive to price, you are sensitive to quality. And so MOSCO isn't for quality. And so MOSCO isn't for quality. And so MOSCO isn't for everybody. Um, I wish that we could make everybody. Um, I wish that we could make everybody. Um, I wish that we could make it cheaper, but I don't know how to do it cheaper, but I don't know how to do it cheaper, but I don't know how to do that and employ people who are craftsmen that and employ people who are craftsmen that and employ people who are craftsmen in the United States, paying them living in the United States, paying them living in the United States, paying them living wages with good materials that we're wages with good materials that we're wages with good materials that we're sourcing from local areas in Phoenix. I sourcing from local areas in Phoenix. I sourcing from local areas in Phoenix. I don't know how when I figure out how to don't know how when I figure out how to don't know how when I figure out how to make it cheaper, the price will come make it cheaper, the price will come make it cheaper, the price will come down. In the meantime, down. In the meantime, down. In the meantime, I I shudder to think about the people

1:29I I shudder to think about the people I I shudder to think about the people buying the inflatable tubs with all the buying the inflatable tubs with all the buying the inflatable tubs with all the like plasticizers and brminated flame like plasticizers and brminated flame like plasticizers and brminated flame retardants. And when you take it out of retardants. And when you take it out of retardants. And when you take it out of the bag and it smells funny, that's the bag and it smells funny, that's the bag and it smells funny, that's because it's not good for you. And so to because it's not good for you. And so to because it's not good for you. And so to think that you're going to get into one think that you're going to get into one think that you're going to get into one of those plastic inflatable tubs for of those plastic inflatable tubs for of those plastic inflatable tubs for your health is sort of ironic. But if your health is sort of ironic. But if your health is sort of ironic. But if that's what you need to do to get that's what you need to do to get that's what you need to do to get started so you can kind of get some of started so you can kind of get some of started so you can kind of get some of the experience, okay, fine. the experience, okay, fine. the experience, okay, fine. >> Fantastic. And for everything that you >> Fantastic. And for everything that you >> Fantastic. And for everything that you just mentioned today in the show, I will just mentioned today in the show, I will just mentioned today in the show, I will be linking the link to Morosco for be linking the link to Morosco for be linking the link to Morosco for bathtubs as well. And for the audience, bathtubs as well. And for the audience, bathtubs as well. And for the audience, we have a special listener discount. So we have a special listener discount. So we have a special listener discount. So the discount code is mobility fitness. the discount code is mobility fitness. the discount code is mobility fitness. So if you add that at the checkout, So if you add that at the checkout, So if you add that at the checkout, you'll be able to get a massive discount you'll be able to get a massive discount you'll be able to get a massive discount on your order as well. So definitely on your order as well. So definitely on your order as well. So definitely check those out. How about the the links check those out. How about the the links check those out. How about the the links and everything to your green light? and everything to your green light? and everything to your green light? What's the website for that? What's the website for that? What's the website for that? >> My greenlamp.com. >> My greenlamp.com. >> My greenlamp.com. So m y g r n l a m p.com. So m y g r n l a m p.com. So m y g r n l a m p.com. Um you know I don't know if it's the Um you know I don't know if it's the Um you know I don't know if it's the best domain name but it sounds like my

1:30best domain name but it sounds like my best domain name but it sounds like my grain. So my greenlamp.com grain. So my greenlamp.com grain. So my greenlamp.com you can buy direct from there. you can buy direct from there. you can buy direct from there. >> We ship all over the world. >> We ship all over the world. >> We ship all over the world. >> Awesome. And do you want to hold up your >> Awesome. And do you want to hold up your >> Awesome. And do you want to hold up your two books again? Do you have them both two books again? Do you have them both two books again? Do you have them both there? there? there? >> I got the uncommon testosterone book >> I got the uncommon testosterone book >> I got the uncommon testosterone book which you can purchase on Amazon. which you can purchase on Amazon. which you can purchase on Amazon. There's an audio book. There's a Kindle There's an audio book. There's a Kindle There's an audio book. There's a Kindle version. Amazon has the hard copy. You version. Amazon has the hard copy. You version. Amazon has the hard copy. You can get the paperback from can get the paperback from can get the paperback from morascoforge.com. morascoforge.com. morascoforge.com. The other one is Uncommon Cole, which is The other one is Uncommon Cole, which is The other one is Uncommon Cole, which is bigger, more comprehensive, and I didn't bigger, more comprehensive, and I didn't bigger, more comprehensive, and I didn't bring a copy to show you, and you can bring a copy to show you, and you can bring a copy to show you, and you can only get it from morascoforge.com. only get it from morascoforge.com. only get it from morascoforge.com. >> Awesome. Fantastic. And thank you so >> Awesome. Fantastic. And thank you so >> Awesome. Fantastic. And thank you so much for coming on the show, uh, much for coming on the show, uh, much for coming on the show, uh, Professor Thomas. It was an absolutely Professor Thomas. It was an absolutely Professor Thomas. It was an absolutely pleasure to talk with you today. I I pleasure to talk with you today. I I pleasure to talk with you today. I I learned so so much. And then I feel that learned so so much. And then I feel that learned so so much. And then I feel that the audience is going to absolutely the audience is going to absolutely the audience is going to absolutely devour this episode because my audience devour this episode because my audience devour this episode because my audience is very quantum biology and circadian is very quantum biology and circadian is very quantum biology and circadian biology based. Everybody's really biology based. Everybody's really biology based. Everybody's really interested into this kind of frequency interested into this kind of frequency interested into this kind of frequency and you know all the stuff that actually and you know all the stuff that actually and you know all the stuff that actually matters in mitochondrial health. So it matters in mitochondrial health. So it matters in mitochondrial health. So it was an absolute pleasure to talk with

1:31was an absolute pleasure to talk with was an absolute pleasure to talk with you. I would love to do it again in the you. I would love to do it again in the you. I would love to do it again in the future if you have any new revelations future if you have any new revelations future if you have any new revelations or if you come up with any new devices or if you come up with any new devices or if you come up with any new devices or any new books. or any new books. or any new books. >> I'd be happy to. Thank you. Andreas, >> I'd be happy to. Thank you. Andreas, >> I'd be happy to. Thank you. Andreas, >> you guys enjoy the topics and guests I >> you guys enjoy the topics and guests I >> you guys enjoy the topics and guests I bring on the show. I would really bring on the show. I would really bring on the show. I would really appreciate it if you left me a five-star appreciate it if you left me a five-star appreciate it if you left me a five-star review on Spotify and also subscribe to review on Spotify and also subscribe to review on Spotify and also subscribe to Fitness Wisdom Podcast on YouTube as Fitness Wisdom Podcast on YouTube as Fitness Wisdom Podcast on YouTube as well as this helps to spread the well as this helps to spread the well as this helps to spread the knowledge and wisdom with the world. knowledge and wisdom with the world. knowledge and wisdom with the world. Until next time, this is the Fitness Until next time, this is the Fitness Until next time, this is the Fitness Wisdom Podcast.

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