Harnessing Sunlight and Cold Exposure for Longevity at High Latitudes - Full Transcript

00:00even in summer they should be trying to even in summer they should be trying to see the sunrise and the sunset see the sunrise and the sunset see the sunrise and the sunset absolutely if they don't guess what absolutely if they don't guess what absolutely if they don't guess what they're going to pay a toll not a fun they're going to pay a toll not a fun they're going to pay a toll not a fun thing to think about is thing to think about is thing to think about is it I need you to understand that you it I need you to understand that you it I need you to understand that you have to do certain things that are also have to do certain things that are also have to do certain things that are also would be considered crazy to your family would be considered crazy to your family would be considered crazy to your family and you don't worry if you're crazy and you don't worry if you're crazy and you don't worry if you're crazy because you know you're right they're because you know you're right they're because you know you're right they're probably not the guys you want to listen probably not the guys you want to listen probably not the guys you want to listen to you're going to want to listen to to you're going to want to listen to to you're going to want to listen to Owen sheb podcast with Uncle Jack Dr Owen sheb podcast with Uncle Jack Dr Owen sheb podcast with Uncle Jack Dr Jack Cruz thanks for coming on the Jack Cruz thanks for coming on the Jack Cruz thanks for coming on the podcast uh I listen to the Andrew hubman podcast uh I listen to the Andrew hubman podcast uh I listen to the Andrew hubman and Rick Rubin podcast and then since and Rick Rubin podcast and then since and Rick Rubin podcast and then since then went down many rabbit holes and I'm then went down many rabbit holes and I'm then went down many rabbit holes and I'm I'm glad to finally speak with you so I'm glad to finally speak with you so I'm glad to finally speak with you so could you start with like an could you start with like an could you start with like an introduction of who you are and how you introduction of who you are and how you introduction of who you are and how you got interested in light and how that can got interested in light and how that can got interested in light and how that can affect our biology and affect our biology and affect our biology and health yeah my name is Jack Cruz I'm a health yeah my name is Jack Cruz I'm a health yeah my name is Jack Cruz I'm a neurosurgeon uh started down the pathway neurosurgeon uh started down the pathway neurosurgeon uh started down the pathway of uh Quantum biology probably 20 years of uh Quantum biology probably 20 years of uh Quantum biology probably 20 years ago uh when I realiz Iz that centralized

01:00ago uh when I realiz Iz that centralized ago uh when I realiz Iz that centralized Healthcare and Medicine were impotent in Healthcare and Medicine were impotent in Healthcare and Medicine were impotent in fixing most of the chronic fixing most of the chronic fixing most of the chronic illnesses uh that we're seeing in illnesses uh that we're seeing in illnesses uh that we're seeing in clinics and it led down a big rabbit clinics and it led down a big rabbit clinics and it led down a big rabbit hole where I basically went from Box Box hole where I basically went from Box Box hole where I basically went from Box Box Car Car Car biochemistry that you learn about in uh biochemistry that you learn about in uh biochemistry that you learn about in uh basic medicine alpath medicine uh and basic medicine alpath medicine uh and basic medicine alpath medicine uh and the foundation brought me to the the the foundation brought me to the the the foundation brought me to the the science of nature which is quantum mechanics all right cool mechanics all right cool so I think I first came across your work so I think I first came across your work so I think I first came across your work because I kept hearing this thing that because I kept hearing this thing that because I kept hearing this thing that like oh there's no such thing it's like like oh there's no such thing it's like like oh there's no such thing it's like a healthy tan and I was like I kept a healthy tan and I was like I kept a healthy tan and I was like I kept hearing this and I tried to look into it hearing this and I tried to look into it hearing this and I tried to look into it I'm not an expert or anything but I I'm not an expert or anything but I I'm not an expert or anything but I found some things correlating like more found some things correlating like more found some things correlating like more sun exposure and skin cancer but they sun exposure and skin cancer but they sun exposure and skin cancer but they didn't really seem to look at sunburns didn't really seem to look at sunburns didn't really seem to look at sunburns or anything like that so why do you or anything like that so why do you or anything like that so why do you think that kind of idea is basically think that kind of idea is basically think that kind of idea is basically nonsense why why can you have have a

02:00nonsense why why can you have have a nonsense why why can you have have a healthy healthy healthy tan well I mean you're built for it um tan well I mean you're built for it um tan well I mean you're built for it um let's let's let's just cut to the chase let's let's let's just cut to the chase let's let's let's just cut to the chase let's talk about let's talk about let's talk about why the centralized Paradigm wants to why the centralized Paradigm wants to why the centralized Paradigm wants to bury this information because if they do bury this information because if they do bury this information because if they do bury it then you become a more bury it then you become a more bury it then you become a more successful customer of the successful customer of the successful customer of the pharmaceutical industry so that's issue pharmaceutical industry so that's issue pharmaceutical industry so that's issue number one but how do you know that this number one but how do you know that this number one but how do you know that this proposition that's brought to you by you proposition that's brought to you by you proposition that's brought to you by you know centralized Healthcare is absolute know centralized Healthcare is absolute know centralized Healthcare is absolute utter Ridiculousness you have a a gene utter Ridiculousness you have a a gene utter Ridiculousness you have a a gene in your body called palm seed stands for in your body called palm seed stands for in your body called palm seed stands for pro opio pro opio pro opio melanocortin it gets cleaved into six melanocortin it gets cleaved into six melanocortin it gets cleaved into six different products one of the products different products one of the products different products one of the products is Alpha msh that makes melanin melanin is Alpha msh that makes melanin melanin is Alpha msh that makes melanin melanin actually is what creates your tan so if actually is what creates your tan so if actually is what creates your tan so if you're designed not to have a tan then you're designed not to have a tan then you're designed not to have a tan then somebody needs to explain to Mother somebody needs to explain to Mother somebody needs to explain to Mother Nature and evolution why every single Nature and evolution why every single Nature and evolution why every single mammal on this planet has the ponc

03:00gene yeah okay so then from there I gene yeah okay so then from there I think a lot of people would accept that think a lot of people would accept that think a lot of people would accept that like there is some level of sun exposure like there is some level of sun exposure like there is some level of sun exposure that's obviously healthy uh we do want that's obviously healthy uh we do want that's obviously healthy uh we do want to avoid sunburns though right like we to avoid sunburns though right like we to avoid sunburns though right like we can't get too much no no that's that's can't get too much no no that's that's can't get too much no no that's that's also another centralized Paradigm belief also another centralized Paradigm belief also another centralized Paradigm belief that's actually never been studied that's actually never been studied that's actually never been studied properly uh and in all the work that properly uh and in all the work that properly uh and in all the work that I've done uh I've I've tweeted out I've done uh I've I've tweeted out I've done uh I've I've tweeted out multiple times written blogs that even multiple times written blogs that even multiple times written blogs that even sunburns don't seem to be a major sunburns don't seem to be a major sunburns don't seem to be a major problem now are they comfortable are problem now are they comfortable are problem now are they comfortable are they something we should strive to get they something we should strive to get they something we should strive to get no that's not what we're saying but are no that's not what we're saying but are no that's not what we're saying but are they uh the huge red flags that the they uh the huge red flags that the they uh the huge red flags that the dermatologists or the opthalmologists or dermatologists or the opthalmologists or dermatologists or the opthalmologists or the primary care doctors tell us about the primary care doctors tell us about the primary care doctors tell us about the answer is no they're they're not as the answer is no they're they're not as the answer is no they're they're not as bad as you think um and it's something bad as you think um and it's something bad as you think um and it's something like if you had to air on the side of

04:00like if you had to air on the side of like if you had to air on the side of getting a sunburn or blocking the Sun getting a sunburn or blocking the Sun getting a sunburn or blocking the Sun from your light you'd always want to get from your light you'd always want to get from your light you'd always want to get the sunburn versus blocking the sun in the sunburn versus blocking the sun in the sunburn versus blocking the sun in fact in your neck of the woods where you fact in your neck of the woods where you fact in your neck of the woods where you come from at the uh 59th 60th 63rd come from at the uh 59th 60th 63rd come from at the uh 59th 60th 63rd latitude the swedes did a study in 2016 latitude the swedes did a study in 2016 latitude the swedes did a study in 2016 that actually was a metaanalysis that actually was a metaanalysis that actually was a metaanalysis sunlight it actually showed that if you sunlight it actually showed that if you sunlight it actually showed that if you block the sun it's equivalent to smoking block the sun it's equivalent to smoking block the sun it's equivalent to smoking cigarettes okay as in terms of a risk cigarettes okay as in terms of a risk cigarettes okay as in terms of a risk Factor so no one ever talks about the Factor so no one ever talks about the Factor so no one ever talks about the blockade of the sun being a huge problem blockade of the sun being a huge problem blockade of the sun being a huge problem everybody always worries about the fact everybody always worries about the fact everybody always worries about the fact that you get a sunburn the the real that you get a sunburn the the real that you get a sunburn the the real issue with sunburns if you want to be issue with sunburns if you want to be issue with sunburns if you want to be quite Frank about this especially comes quite Frank about this especially comes quite Frank about this especially comes from you know your neck of the woods from you know your neck of the woods from you know your neck of the woods where you are that's where my people where you are that's where my people where you are that's where my people originally come from too the 509 originally come from too the 509 originally come from too the 509 latitude we tend to have you know pale latitude we tend to have you know pale latitude we tend to have you know pale skin because the sun is so weak in those skin because the sun is so weak in those skin because the sun is so weak in those areas so we don't have as much melanin areas so we don't have as much melanin areas so we don't have as much melanin exposure you tend to have light eyes

05:00exposure you tend to have light eyes exposure you tend to have light eyes like green or blue eyes for the same like green or blue eyes for the same like green or blue eyes for the same reason so that you can absorb more sun reason so that you can absorb more sun reason so that you can absorb more sun remember when you have less melanin in remember when you have less melanin in remember when you have less melanin in your skin you get more sun so when you your skin you get more sun so when you your skin you get more sun so when you do get a day say it's Scotland or do get a day say it's Scotland or do get a day say it's Scotland or Stockholm or up in the north of of Stockholm or up in the north of of Stockholm or up in the north of of England where you do get decent sun and England where you do get decent sun and England where you do get decent sun and you happen to get pink skin that's um you happen to get pink skin that's um you happen to get pink skin that's um that's not necessarily a bad you know that's not necessarily a bad you know that's not necessarily a bad you know issue um it's something that that um issue um it's something that that um issue um it's something that that um happens very rarely normally in nature happens very rarely normally in nature happens very rarely normally in nature but if you happen to be one of those but if you happen to be one of those but if you happen to be one of those pasty Englishmen that show up to El pasty Englishmen that show up to El pasty Englishmen that show up to El Salvador and you don't have uh what we Salvador and you don't have uh what we Salvador and you don't have uh what we call the proper solar callus yeah expect call the proper solar callus yeah expect call the proper solar callus yeah expect to get you know red and white pretty to get you know red and white pretty to get you know red and white pretty quick but here's the the ultimate irony quick but here's the the ultimate irony quick but here's the the ultimate irony as a former pacting Englishman myself uh as a former pacting Englishman myself uh as a former pacting Englishman myself uh I was able to understand the program to I was able to understand the program to I was able to understand the program to build the solar callus so now I can stay build the solar callus so now I can stay build the solar callus so now I can stay out out at the 13th latitude 78 n 10

06:00out out at the 13th latitude 78 n 10 out out at the 13th latitude 78 n 10 hours a day why is that the case because hours a day why is that the case because hours a day why is that the case because all mammals come with the program that I all mammals come with the program that I all mammals come with the program that I told you about built into their told you about built into their told you about built into their neuroectoderm the issue is the neuroectoderm the issue is the neuroectoderm the issue is the environment that you're adapted to best environment that you're adapted to best environment that you're adapted to best actually determines the quantum yield of actually determines the quantum yield of actually determines the quantum yield of that program in you so for example uh that program in you so for example uh that program in you so for example uh I'm just going to make um an educated I'm just going to make um an educated I'm just going to make um an educated guess a guy like you and a guy like guess a guy like you and a guy like guess a guy like you and a guy like me we probably have an H or a k hype in me we probably have an H or a k hype in me we probably have an H or a k hype in our mitochondria meaning we're highly our mitochondria meaning we're highly our mitochondria meaning we're highly uncoupled uncoupled Hypes tend to go uncoupled uncoupled Hypes tend to go uncoupled uncoupled Hypes tend to go with white skin and blue eyes if you're with white skin and blue eyes if you're with white skin and blue eyes if you're a coupled hpo type meaning you come from a coupled hpo type meaning you come from a coupled hpo type meaning you come from equatorial Africa like the East African equatorial Africa like the East African equatorial Africa like the East African RI Zone you're going to be l0 L1 L2 RI Zone you're going to be l0 L1 L2 RI Zone you're going to be l0 L1 L2 you're going to have much more melon in you're going to have much more melon in you're going to have much more melon in your skin why because the melon in there your skin why because the melon in there your skin why because the melon in there absorbs all aspects of electromagnetic absorbs all aspects of electromagnetic absorbs all aspects of electromagnetic radiation so that you can absorb it and radiation so that you can absorb it and radiation so that you can absorb it and live well at that environment about live well at that environment about live well at that environment about 70,000 years years ago when humans left

07:0070,000 years years ago when humans left 70,000 years years ago when humans left the East African Rift and migrated North the East African Rift and migrated North the East African Rift and migrated North to where you are what was one of the the to where you are what was one of the the to where you are what was one of the the key factors of the the migration Out of key factors of the the migration Out of key factors of the the migration Out of Africa we left along waterways but we Africa we left along waterways but we Africa we left along waterways but we lost our melanin because there was no lost our melanin because there was no lost our melanin because there was no reason to have really dark skinn at high reason to have really dark skinn at high reason to have really dark skinn at high latitudes why was that that was a latitudes why was that that was a latitudes why was that that was a Quantum yield decision why because when Quantum yield decision why because when Quantum yield decision why because when you're really really dark and you're at you're really really dark and you're at you're really really dark and you're at high latitude and the sun sucks actually high latitude and the sun sucks actually high latitude and the sun sucks actually you can't make any vitamin D you can't make any vitamin D you can't make any vitamin D so why does the body get rid of the so why does the body get rid of the so why does the body get rid of the melanin the higher you go away from the melanin the higher you go away from the melanin the higher you go away from the equator it's because the sun is weak the equator it's because the sun is weak the equator it's because the sun is weak the corollary to the light story is what corollary to the light story is what corollary to the light story is what happens in water at the same time the happens in water at the same time the happens in water at the same time the hydrology cycle cycle marries up to this hydrology cycle cycle marries up to this hydrology cycle cycle marries up to this issue so it turns out that dyum has a issue so it turns out that dyum has a issue so it turns out that dyum has a higher concentration where people's skin higher concentration where people's skin higher concentration where people's skin are darker and as you go higher up to are darker and as you go higher up to are darker and as you go higher up to say 5960 of latitude the hydrology cycle say 5960 of latitude the hydrology cycle say 5960 of latitude the hydrology cycle on Earth uh leads to D iium depletion

08:00on Earth uh leads to D iium depletion on Earth uh leads to D iium depletion naturally and this allows you to absorb naturally and this allows you to absorb naturally and this allows you to absorb more sunlight um so that you can perform more sunlight um so that you can perform more sunlight um so that you can perform those things so when you begin to those things so when you begin to those things so when you begin to understand the the quantum biology that understand the the quantum biology that understand the the quantum biology that acts your skin is designed to have less acts your skin is designed to have less acts your skin is designed to have less melanin the higher you are in Latitude melanin the higher you are in Latitude melanin the higher you are in Latitude the further you from the Sun and the the further you from the Sun and the the further you from the Sun and the atomic mass that's buried in the water atomic mass that's buried in the water atomic mass that's buried in the water that you create is designed to have less that you create is designed to have less that you create is designed to have less atomic mass why this is the rule of of atomic mass why this is the rule of of atomic mass why this is the rule of of Einstein the law of nature called E Einstein the law of nature called E Einstein the law of nature called E equals mc2 why because mass constrains equals mc2 why because mass constrains equals mc2 why because mass constrains energy and light is a form of energy and energy and light is a form of energy and energy and light is a form of energy and when you don't have as much solar energy when you don't have as much solar energy when you don't have as much solar energy at high at high at high latitudes what happens in in organisms latitudes what happens in in organisms latitudes what happens in in organisms that are alive that are sentinent beings that are alive that are sentinent beings that are alive that are sentinent beings they actually change their Quantum they actually change their Quantum they actually change their Quantum biology and this is not you know really biology and this is not you know really biology and this is not you know really difficult for people to understand once difficult for people to understand once difficult for people to understand once they sit down and listen to what I just they sit down and listen to what I just they sit down and listen to what I just told you why because this effect isn't told you why because this effect isn't told you why because this effect isn't just present in mammals let's let's make

09:00just present in mammals let's let's make just present in mammals let's let's make it even more uh common sense if I was to it even more uh common sense if I was to it even more uh common sense if I was to sit down with someone in your neck of sit down with someone in your neck of sit down with someone in your neck of the woods right now and said hey I'd the woods right now and said hey I'd the woods right now and said hey I'd like you to like you to like you to start you know um a nursery and let's start you know um a nursery and let's start you know um a nursery and let's start to grow coconut trees at your start to grow coconut trees at your start to grow coconut trees at your latitude all of you would sit back in latitude all of you would sit back in latitude all of you would sit back in the chair and just laugh you say what do the chair and just laugh you say what do the chair and just laugh you say what do you think we're idiots and you got that you think we're idiots and you got that you think we're idiots and you got that immediately about plants but what you immediately about plants but what you immediately about plants but what you don't realize something more common is don't realize something more common is don't realize something more common is if you look at the Northern Hemisphere if you look at the Northern Hemisphere if you look at the Northern Hemisphere all along the top of the pole where you all along the top of the pole where you all along the top of the pole where you guys live at the 59 60th latitude guys live at the 59 60th latitude guys live at the 59 60th latitude there's something there called the there's something there called the there's something there called the Boreal forest the Boreal forest creates Boreal forest the Boreal forest creates Boreal forest the Boreal forest creates more oxygen in the world than any other more oxygen in the world than any other more oxygen in the world than any other living thing on the planet but it has a living thing on the planet but it has a living thing on the planet but it has a sharp cut off at the 60th latitude so sharp cut off at the 60th latitude so sharp cut off at the 60th latitude so what does that tell you about sunlight what does that tell you about sunlight what does that tell you about sunlight because we don't see the effect in the because we don't see the effect in the because we don't see the effect in the southern hemisphere why because we have southern hemisphere why because we have southern hemisphere why because we have one continent that's at the pole it's one continent that's at the pole it's one continent that's at the pole it's surrounded by the Southern Ocean there's surrounded by the Southern Ocean there's surrounded by the Southern Ocean there's no land masses there what it tells you

10:00no land masses there what it tells you no land masses there what it tells you is because the tilt of the Earth at 232 is because the tilt of the Earth at 232 is because the tilt of the Earth at 232 deg that photosynthesis has a Quantum deg that photosynthesis has a Quantum deg that photosynthesis has a Quantum yield meaning that living things don't yield meaning that living things don't yield meaning that living things don't do well at high latitudes above the 60th do well at high latitudes above the 60th do well at high latitudes above the 60th latitude now let's do a hard stop let's latitude now let's do a hard stop let's latitude now let's do a hard stop let's think about the poor bastards that live think about the poor bastards that live think about the poor bastards that live in in Scotland let's think about the in in Scotland let's think about the in in Scotland let's think about the poor bastards that live in Scandinavia poor bastards that live in Scandinavia poor bastards that live in Scandinavia that are above the 59th latitude and that are above the 59th latitude and that are above the 59th latitude and then then let's take it further for the then then let's take it further for the then then let's take it further for the people out there that'll be listening to people out there that'll be listening to people out there that'll be listening to this and you're neck of the woods that this and you're neck of the woods that this and you're neck of the woods that think that this idea is batshit crazy um think that this idea is batshit crazy um think that this idea is batshit crazy um there's a guy who's a dermatologist in there's a guy who's a dermatologist in there's a guy who's a dermatologist in in Scotland named Richard Weller who did in Scotland named Richard Weller who did in Scotland named Richard Weller who did a a TED talk I'm I'm it's almost 10 a a TED talk I'm I'm it's almost 10 a a TED talk I'm I'm it's almost 10 years ago and he like why do people you years ago and he like why do people you years ago and he like why do people you know why do people die more frequently know why do people die more frequently know why do people die more frequently of cardiovascular disease and of cardiovascular disease and of cardiovascular disease and hypertension in Scotland this is the hypertension in Scotland this is the hypertension in Scotland this is the reason why because there's no UVA light reason why because there's no UVA light reason why because there's no UVA light to make nitric oxide to lower their risk to make nitric oxide to lower their risk to make nitric oxide to lower their risk so again isn't the story back to

11:00so again isn't the story back to so again isn't the story back to sunlight isn't the same story patterned sunlight isn't the same story patterned sunlight isn't the same story patterned in nature with photosynthesis because in nature with photosynthesis because in nature with photosynthesis because there's no there's no there's no Forest that can be supported above the Forest that can be supported above the Forest that can be supported above the 60th latitude that's what the Boreal 60th latitude that's what the Boreal 60th latitude that's what the Boreal forest tells us and when you begin to forest tells us and when you begin to forest tells us and when you begin to understand that understand that understand that photosynthesis is a process in nature photosynthesis is a process in nature photosynthesis is a process in nature that's decentralized that uses sunlight that's decentralized that uses sunlight that's decentralized that uses sunlight water and CO2 to create you know glucose water and CO2 to create you know glucose water and CO2 to create you know glucose and create wood okay trees are are made and create wood okay trees are are made and create wood okay trees are are made out of thin air sounds hard to believe out of thin air sounds hard to believe out of thin air sounds hard to believe um but it's true and then you have to um but it's true and then you have to um but it's true and then you have to realize the things that are inside of realize the things that are inside of realize the things that are inside of you mitochondria reverse the process of you mitochondria reverse the process of you mitochondria reverse the process of photosynthesis completely so then you photosynthesis completely so then you photosynthesis completely so then you begin to say well wait a minute if begin to say well wait a minute if begin to say well wait a minute if photosynthesis has a low Quantum yield photosynthesis has a low Quantum yield photosynthesis has a low Quantum yield that means that the quantum yield of that means that the quantum yield of that means that the quantum yield of mitochondria also has to be variable and mitochondria also has to be variable and mitochondria also has to be variable and that gets back to the story that I just that gets back to the story that I just that gets back to the story that I just told you why guys like you guys like me

12:00told you why guys like you guys like me told you why guys like you guys like me are pasty white with freckles don't have are pasty white with freckles don't have are pasty white with freckles don't have melanin and we tend to have light eyes melanin and we tend to have light eyes melanin and we tend to have light eyes and why people who live in Nairobi who and why people who live in Nairobi who and why people who live in Nairobi who in all the the marathons all over the in all the the marathons all over the in all the the marathons all over the world are the darkest people on the world are the darkest people on the world are the darkest people on the planet that have really brown eyes why planet that have really brown eyes why planet that have really brown eyes why because they're at one degree north because they're at one degree north because they're at one degree north latitude they're tightly coupled they're latitude they're tightly coupled they're latitude they're tightly coupled they're at 8,000 fet in the air that means at 8,000 fet in the air that means at 8,000 fet in the air that means they're even closer to the sun because they're even closer to the sun because they're even closer to the sun because they're at they're at they're at elevation everything is story of light elevation everything is story of light elevation everything is story of light water magnetism the problem is most water magnetism the problem is most water magnetism the problem is most modern humans are too stupid to realize modern humans are too stupid to realize modern humans are too stupid to realize it but yet the answers are all around it but yet the answers are all around it but yet the answers are all around you they're they're staring you right in you they're they're staring you right in you they're they're staring you right in the face even at the high latitude you the face even at the high latitude you the face even at the high latitude you live in I tell everybody I just traveled live in I tell everybody I just traveled live in I tell everybody I just traveled up to your neck of the woods a couple up to your neck of the woods a couple up to your neck of the woods a couple months ago and I I made the case I said months ago and I I made the case I said months ago and I I made the case I said isn't it amazing when you go to a place isn't it amazing when you go to a place isn't it amazing when you go to a place like Iceland you know that's pretty high like Iceland you know that's pretty high like Iceland you know that's pretty high latitude or you go to Norway because I latitude or you go to Norway because I latitude or you go to Norway because I was in Norway at a pretty high latitude was in Norway at a pretty high latitude was in Norway at a pretty high latitude 69 latitude you look to your left you

13:0069 latitude you look to your left you 69 latitude you look to your left you look to your right and you see lava look to your right and you see lava look to your right and you see lava flows that are completely naked you come flows that are completely naked you come flows that are completely naked you come down to El Salvador at the 13th north down to El Salvador at the 13th north down to El Salvador at the 13th north latitude and you don't see any lava latitude and you don't see any lava latitude and you don't see any lava flows that are naked they're covered flows that are naked they're covered flows that are naked they're covered with dirt and they're covered with plant with dirt and they're covered with plant with dirt and they're covered with plant life why is that it's because of of the life why is that it's because of of the life why is that it's because of of the photosynthetic story that I told you the photosynthetic story that I told you the photosynthetic story that I told you the answer is answer is answer is there yeah okay yeah I I you're not the there yeah okay yeah I I you're not the there yeah okay yeah I I you're not the first person to think of kind of like first person to think of kind of like first person to think of kind of like Nordic I'm actually well I believe I'm Nordic I'm actually well I believe I'm Nordic I'm actually well I believe I'm from UK uh so I'm near London yeah this from UK uh so I'm near London yeah this from UK uh so I'm near London yeah this is this nobody nobody from the UK is is this nobody nobody from the UK is is this nobody nobody from the UK is from the UK my friend just so you know from the UK my friend just so you know from the UK my friend just so you know that okay they all of you all of you are that okay they all of you all of you are that okay they all of you all of you are immigrants in fact every human on this immigrants in fact every human on this immigrants in fact every human on this planet is an immigrant from Africa and planet is an immigrant from Africa and planet is an immigrant from Africa and we know that from we know that from we know that from mitochondrial uh biology now most of you mitochondrial uh biology now most of you mitochondrial uh biology now most of you don't like to accept that but I don't don't like to accept that but I don't don't like to accept that but I don't really care about your opinion that's really care about your opinion that's really care about your opinion that's the truth and and nature nature doesn't

14:00the truth and and nature nature doesn't the truth and and nature nature doesn't really care or about our wants needs or really care or about our wants needs or really care or about our wants needs or desires or our beliefs the fact is we desires or our beliefs the fact is we desires or our beliefs the fact is we know that homo saens last time I checked know that homo saens last time I checked know that homo saens last time I checked you don't have big eyes and you don't you don't have big eyes and you don't you don't have big eyes and you don't have a big forehead so I don't think have a big forehead so I don't think have a big forehead so I don't think you're a neanderthal you're a homo you're a neanderthal you're a homo you're a neanderthal you're a homo sapien that means you came from the East sapien that means you came from the East sapien that means you came from the East African Rift Zone and your people over African Rift Zone and your people over African Rift Zone and your people over the last 70,000 years moved from that the last 70,000 years moved from that the last 70,000 years moved from that Latitude to the 50th to the 55th Latitude to the 50th to the 55th Latitude to the 50th to the 55th latitude and those changes occurred not latitude and those changes occurred not latitude and those changes occurred not only in your neuroectoderm but also in only in your neuroectoderm but also in only in your neuroectoderm but also in your mitochondria and that's what gave your mitochondria and that's what gave your mitochondria and that's what gave you the change in hype now you don't you the change in hype now you don't you the change in hype now you don't have to accept any of that I'm fine with have to accept any of that I'm fine with have to accept any of that I'm fine with that but that's the truth that's the that but that's the truth that's the that but that's the truth that's the quantum biology of what humans have gone quantum biology of what humans have gone quantum biology of what humans have gone through since they they left through since they they left through since they they left Africa that's good think if people also Africa that's good think if people also Africa that's good think if people also around in Fr tell them I'm an immigrant around in Fr tell them I'm an immigrant around in Fr tell them I'm an immigrant from the East African Rift okay all of from the East African Rift okay all of from the East African Rift okay all of us are technically I mean there's not us are technically I mean there's not us are technically I mean there's not anybody who's not but the thing is we anybody who's not but the thing is we anybody who's not but the thing is we don't think about like that because we

15:00don't think about like that because we don't think about like that because we have recency bias you know we think have recency bias you know we think have recency bias you know we think about you know especially you from the about you know especially you from the about you know especially you from the UK you're going to think about the last UK you're going to think about the last UK you're going to think about the last thousand years or the last 2,000 years thousand years or the last 2,000 years thousand years or the last 2,000 years like the people that live at Kirk wall like the people that live at Kirk wall like the people that live at Kirk wall in Scotland they they're even more in Scotland they they're even more in Scotland they they're even more different they they know they come from different they they know they come from different they they know they come from Norway they know they have Viking Norway they know they have Viking Norway they know they have Viking Heritage they were stolen by one of your Heritage they were stolen by one of your Heritage they were stolen by one of your kings in the 1600s because of AAL okay kings in the 1600s because of AAL okay kings in the 1600s because of AAL okay but that's the reason why when you but that's the reason why when you but that's the reason why when you listen to them and their dialect they listen to them and their dialect they listen to them and their dialect they sound Norwegian they certainly don't sound Norwegian they certainly don't sound Norwegian they certainly don't sound like some dude from London um and sound like some dude from London um and sound like some dude from London um and they understand that but then even the they understand that but then even the they understand that but then even the Vikings understand that they didn't come Vikings understand that they didn't come Vikings understand that they didn't come you know from the area of the planet you know from the area of the planet you know from the area of the planet that they thought either they came from that they thought either they came from that they thought either they came from a different place as well why because a different place as well why because a different place as well why because people don't realize that the story of people don't realize that the story of people don't realize that the story of humanity is greater than 5,000 years humanity is greater than 5,000 years humanity is greater than 5,000 years remember written history is only 5,000 remember written history is only 5,000 remember written history is only 5,000 years old it goes basically back but years old it goes basically back but years old it goes basically back but probably the Egyptians the oldest part

16:00probably the Egyptians the oldest part probably the Egyptians the oldest part like in the country you live in whether like in the country you live in whether like in the country you live in whether you know this is scar BR up in kirkwall you know this is scar BR up in kirkwall you know this is scar BR up in kirkwall Scotland it's a little bit older about Scotland it's a little bit older about Scotland it's a little bit older about 500 years older than the pyramids uh and 500 years older than the pyramids uh and 500 years older than the pyramids uh and the story of the Egyptians so we know the story of the Egyptians so we know the story of the Egyptians so we know the people that originally settled in the people that originally settled in the people that originally settled in the UK likely at that highest latitude the UK likely at that highest latitude the UK likely at that highest latitude were around 5,500 years ago I told you were around 5,500 years ago I told you were around 5,500 years ago I told you the story when we left Africa it was the story when we left Africa it was the story when we left Africa it was 70,000 years ago so you have to realize 70,000 years ago so you have to realize 70,000 years ago so you have to realize that 65,000 year difference is actually that 65,000 year difference is actually that 65,000 year difference is actually when the original Journey began and we when the original Journey began and we when the original Journey began and we don't have any human history written don't have any human history written don't have any human history written about about about that yeah okay I think this leads pretty that yeah okay I think this leads pretty that yeah okay I think this leads pretty well to the next thing I wanted to ask well to the next thing I wanted to ask well to the next thing I wanted to ask was uh I think your advice would be like was uh I think your advice would be like was uh I think your advice would be like move to a lower latitude but apart from move to a lower latitude but apart from move to a lower latitude but apart from that what can people do at a higher

17:00that what can people do at a higher that what can people do at a higher latitude because if they've listened to latitude because if they've listened to latitude because if they've listened to you they they'll know that like the sun you they they'll know that like the sun you they they'll know that like the sun has obvious benefits and so does getting has obvious benefits and so does getting has obvious benefits and so does getting the correct light environment what you the correct light environment what you the correct light environment what you can live that mean let's just let's can live that mean let's just let's can live that mean let's just let's unpack that a minute because I want you unpack that a minute because I want you unpack that a minute because I want you to understand it's a ridiculous to understand it's a ridiculous to understand it's a ridiculous proposition if I was to tell you that proposition if I was to tell you that proposition if I was to tell you that everybody who lives at a high latitude everybody who lives at a high latitude everybody who lives at a high latitude needs to move to a low latitude why needs to move to a low latitude why needs to move to a low latitude why because of what I just told you for at because of what I just told you for at because of what I just told you for at least a thousand years people in Britain least a thousand years people in Britain least a thousand years people in Britain have Sur have Sur have Sur now is there collateral damage you know now is there collateral damage you know now is there collateral damage you know from from in them and on their body plan from from in them and on their body plan from from in them and on their body plan because of that choice yeah I'll give because of that choice yeah I'll give because of that choice yeah I'll give you I'm going to give you a perfect you I'm going to give you a perfect you I'm going to give you a perfect example uh not to pound on people in the example uh not to pound on people in the example uh not to pound on people in the UK but let's talk about Prince Charles UK but let's talk about Prince Charles UK but let's talk about Prince Charles or King Charles whatever you want to or King Charles whatever you want to or King Charles whatever you want to call him he has a class two malocclusion call him he has a class two malocclusion call him he has a class two malocclusion everybody in the royal family does most everybody in the royal family does most everybody in the royal family does most of the people that live in the UK have a of the people that live in the UK have a of the people that live in the UK have a class 2 malocclusion meaning their class 2 malocclusion meaning their class 2 malocclusion meaning their mandible is small compared to their Max mandible is small compared to their Max mandible is small compared to their Max well we know that that's actually tied

18:00well we know that that's actually tied well we know that that's actually tied to poor light environments but guess to poor light environments but guess to poor light environments but guess what that doesn't mean that you can't what that doesn't mean that you can't what that doesn't mean that you can't live at a high latitude for a long live at a high latitude for a long live at a high latitude for a long period of time but is that a change period of time but is that a change period of time but is that a change compared to say the people that built compared to say the people that built compared to say the people that built the pyramids those are the people called the pyramids those are the people called the pyramids those are the people called The anubians Who were dark slaves are The anubians Who were dark slaves are The anubians Who were dark slaves are out there we now know from Peter anger's out there we now know from Peter anger's out there we now know from Peter anger's work at the University of of Arkansas work at the University of of Arkansas work at the University of of Arkansas he's an expert in Maman skulls that when he's an expert in Maman skulls that when he's an expert in Maman skulls that when you go back and look at those people who you go back and look at those people who you go back and look at those people who were buried along in the desert they were buried along in the desert they were buried along in the desert they have perfect dentitions and perfect have perfect dentitions and perfect have perfect dentitions and perfect skulls you know that's 5,000 years ago skulls you know that's 5,000 years ago skulls you know that's 5,000 years ago and we know people in the UK don't have and we know people in the UK don't have and we know people in the UK don't have that they tend to have these changes in that they tend to have these changes in that they tend to have these changes in their in their their in their their in their morphology um the the Vikings We Believe morphology um the the Vikings We Believe morphology um the the Vikings We Believe have been in Scandinavia longer than the have been in Scandinavia longer than the have been in Scandinavia longer than the people in the UK so they are also hardy people in the UK so they are also hardy people in the UK so they are also hardy people and they tend to live longer than people and they tend to live longer than people and they tend to live longer than anybody at high latitudes so that means anybody at high latitudes so that means anybody at high latitudes so that means there is a plan for biology there is a plan for biology there is a plan for biology that you can survive and do really well

19:00that you can survive and do really well that you can survive and do really well what is that survival what is that survival what is that survival issue let's let's talk about what we issue let's let's talk about what we issue let's let's talk about what we know about people from Iceland and know about people from Iceland and know about people from Iceland and Scandinavia who are pretty Hardy it Scandinavia who are pretty Hardy it Scandinavia who are pretty Hardy it turns out that they live outside they're turns out that they live outside they're turns out that they live outside they're in geothermal pools they do exercise in geothermal pools they do exercise in geothermal pools they do exercise that's heavy lifting they have hard that's heavy lifting they have hard that's heavy lifting they have hard lives uh they embrace the cold they lives uh they embrace the cold they lives uh they embrace the cold they always have um those are the things that always have um those are the things that always have um those are the things that people who live in that neck in the people who live in that neck in the people who live in that neck in the woods need to embrace now let's talk woods need to embrace now let's talk woods need to embrace now let's talk about you as a young modern UK guy about you as a young modern UK guy about you as a young modern UK guy you're soft you don't do any of that you you're soft you don't do any of that you you're soft you don't do any of that you live inside you work out in a gym with live inside you work out in a gym with live inside you work out in a gym with blue light you have blankets on your bed blue light you have blankets on your bed blue light you have blankets on your bed you don't live out in Scarab like the you don't live out in Scarab like the you don't live out in Scarab like the people that are your ancestors up at people that are your ancestors up at people that are your ancestors up at Scotland used to do they used to live in Scotland used to do they used to live in Scotland used to do they used to live in holes in the ground with animal skins holes in the ground with animal skins holes in the ground with animal skins over the over the over the top that's the difference So the plan is

20:00top that's the difference So the plan is top that's the difference So the plan is when you're exposed to the when you're exposed to the when you're exposed to the environment are there quantum mechanical environment are there quantum mechanical environment are there quantum mechanical things that are body allows us to do to things that are body allows us to do to things that are body allows us to do to be able to survive the answer is yes the be able to survive the answer is yes the be able to survive the answer is yes the problem is modern life is not built problem is modern life is not built problem is modern life is not built around those things anymore Modern Life around those things anymore Modern Life around those things anymore Modern Life Is Now built around heating blankets Is Now built around heating blankets Is Now built around heating blankets clothing um cars travel work at night clothing um cars travel work at night clothing um cars travel work at night artificial light at night all of those artificial light at night all of those artificial light at night all of those things carry bi project tolls for us and things carry bi project tolls for us and things carry bi project tolls for us and that's the reason why the NHS is really that's the reason why the NHS is really that's the reason why the NHS is really popular this time of the year when light popular this time of the year when light popular this time of the year when light goes away people get more sick in the UK goes away people get more sick in the UK goes away people get more sick in the UK their blood pressures go up there's more their blood pressures go up there's more their blood pressures go up there's more blood clots in the brain uh there's more blood clots in the brain uh there's more blood clots in the brain uh there's more diagnosis of cancer um at this time of diagnosis of cancer um at this time of diagnosis of cancer um at this time of the year than there is in the summertime the year than there is in the summertime the year than there is in the summertime when the sun is is better even though when the sun is is better even though when the sun is is better even though the sun is only good for probably two the sun is only good for probably two the sun is only good for probably two two and a half three months you know at two and a half three months you know at two and a half three months you know at the 509th latitude up in Scotland um the 509th latitude up in Scotland um the 509th latitude up in Scotland um it's a little bit better obviously in it's a little bit better obviously in it's a little bit better obviously in London which is at the 50th 51st

21:00London which is at the 50th 51st London which is at the 50th 51st latitude but even there London is a latitude but even there London is a latitude but even there London is a miserable place to be for usually seven miserable place to be for usually seven miserable place to be for usually seven eight year seven eight months out of the eight year seven eight months out of the eight year seven eight months out of the year um and the thing is it doesn't mean year um and the thing is it doesn't mean year um and the thing is it doesn't mean that humans can't live at that Latitude that humans can't live at that Latitude that humans can't live at that Latitude that's not really what my message is my that's not really what my message is my that's not really what my message is my message is is that when you live at a message is is that when you live at a message is is that when you live at a high latitude you have to be more high latitude you have to be more high latitude you have to be more connected to connected to connected to than less I'm going to tell you when you than less I'm going to tell you when you than less I'm going to tell you when you actually live at lower latitudes you actually live at lower latitudes you actually live at lower latitudes you actually have more play where you can actually have more play where you can actually have more play where you can actually live more of a modern life actually live more of a modern life actually live more of a modern life because you're at lower latitudes because you're at lower latitudes because you're at lower latitudes because the sun is so much more powerful because the sun is so much more powerful because the sun is so much more powerful for you at that latitude and there lies for you at that latitude and there lies for you at that latitude and there lies the kind of interesting issue because if the kind of interesting issue because if the kind of interesting issue because if you're a UK or you're a UK or you're a UK or Scandinavian that's got say a Scandinavian that's got say a Scandinavian that's got say a mitochondrial disease then you our best mitochondrial disease then you our best mitochondrial disease then you our best to move to an environment where you have

22:00to move to an environment where you have to move to an environment where you have more margin of safety it's very very more margin of safety it's very very more margin of safety it's very very difficult say and I'll just use an difficult say and I'll just use an difficult say and I'll just use an example because I'm trying to really example because I'm trying to really example because I'm trying to really keep this uh to your neck of the woods keep this uh to your neck of the woods keep this uh to your neck of the woods people in Finland have the second people in Finland have the second people in Finland have the second highest amount of type one and type two highest amount of type one and type two highest amount of type one and type two diabetes they're high latitude I know diabetes they're high latitude I know diabetes they're high latitude I know they're more West of you or I should say they're more West of you or I should say they're more West of you or I should say more east of you um but they're more east of you um but they're more east of you um but they're instructive if you were a type one or a instructive if you were a type one or a instructive if you were a type one or a type two diabetic Finland you would do a type two diabetic Finland you would do a type two diabetic Finland you would do a really good job of probably spending six really good job of probably spending six really good job of probably spending six months out of the year in Canary Islands months out of the year in Canary Islands months out of the year in Canary Islands to try to reverse that disease so that to try to reverse that disease so that to try to reverse that disease so that you could get things better but again you could get things better but again you could get things better but again would you still have to be more would you still have to be more would you still have to be more connected to the environment that's true connected to the environment that's true connected to the environment that's true and when you went back to Finland say and when you went back to Finland say and when you went back to Finland say after reverse those diseases would you after reverse those diseases would you after reverse those diseases would you likely have to change your lifestyle likely have to change your lifestyle likely have to change your lifestyle that actually gave you the type 1 and that actually gave you the type 1 and that actually gave you the type 1 and type two diabetes to begin with the type two diabetes to begin with the type two diabetes to begin with the answer is yes why because Quantum answer is yes why because Quantum answer is yes why because Quantum biology tells us that you can never get biology tells us that you can never get biology tells us that you can never get well in the same environment you got well in the same environment you got well in the same environment you got sick in and that is a very

23:00sick in and that is a very sick in and that is a very counterintuitive thing for modern humans counterintuitive thing for modern humans counterintuitive thing for modern humans to hear why because we are slaves for to hear why because we are slaves for to hear why because we are slaves for our wants needs and desires you know our wants needs and desires you know our wants needs and desires you know nobody wants to take their Netflix away nobody wants to take their Netflix away nobody wants to take their Netflix away or take their Starbucks away or go into or take their Starbucks away or go into or take their Starbucks away or go into the pub at night away to hang out with the pub at night away to hang out with the pub at night away to hang out with their mates you know to beat their type their mates you know to beat their type their mates you know to beat their type one or type two diabetes but guess what one or type two diabetes but guess what one or type two diabetes but guess what that's in fact what you need to do uh to that's in fact what you need to do uh to that's in fact what you need to do uh to beat it because whether you got the beat it because whether you got the beat it because whether you got the disease or Not by your own doing most disease or Not by your own doing most disease or Not by your own doing most people especially who are type 1 people especially who are type 1 people especially who are type 1 diabetics didn't get it from their diabetics didn't get it from their diabetics didn't get it from their choices they their parents gave it to choices they their parents gave it to choices they their parents gave it to them through them through them through transgenerational epigenetics meaning transgenerational epigenetics meaning transgenerational epigenetics meaning that there's been five or six Decades of that there's been five or six Decades of that there's been five or six Decades of people who lived at that high latitude people who lived at that high latitude people who lived at that high latitude that made poor decisions around light that made poor decisions around light that made poor decisions around light and that's sculpted and changed their and that's sculpted and changed their and that's sculpted and changed their mitochondrial DNA that actually changed mitochondrial DNA that actually changed mitochondrial DNA that actually changed the free radical signaling in the the free radical signaling in the the free radical signaling in the mitochondria to change their DNA and RNA

24:00mitochondria to change their DNA and RNA mitochondria to change their DNA and RNA so that they wound up destroying the so that they wound up destroying the so that they wound up destroying the circadium biology of their beta cells in circadium biology of their beta cells in circadium biology of their beta cells in their pancreas and are there studies out their pancreas and are there studies out their pancreas and are there studies out there that I've posted in multiple blogs there that I've posted in multiple blogs there that I've posted in multiple blogs on multiple Twitter feeds that show you on multiple Twitter feeds that show you on multiple Twitter feeds that show you that type one diabetes specifically as that type one diabetes specifically as that type one diabetes specifically as well as type two diabetes has well as type two diabetes has well as type two diabetes has humongous latitude linkage meaning it's humongous latitude linkage meaning it's humongous latitude linkage meaning it's it's correlation not causation but again it's correlation not causation but again it's correlation not causation but again that shouldn't matter it matters to a that shouldn't matter it matters to a that shouldn't matter it matters to a lot of idiots that are centralized lot of idiots that are centralized lot of idiots that are centralized because they think cause and effect is because they think cause and effect is because they think cause and effect is real cause and effect isn't real we real cause and effect isn't real we real cause and effect isn't real we found that out in 1905 when Einstein found that out in 1905 when Einstein found that out in 1905 when Einstein proved beyond a shadow of a doubt that proved beyond a shadow of a doubt that proved beyond a shadow of a doubt that time is relative the the cause and time is relative the the cause and time is relative the the cause and effect can only be operational in effect can only be operational in effect can only be operational in reality when time is absolute who reality when time is absolute who reality when time is absolute who believe that time was absolute Newton believe that time was absolute Newton believe that time was absolute Newton that's your countrymen okay we believe that's your countrymen okay we believe that's your countrymen okay we believe that for 500 years but the abnormality that for 500 years but the abnormality that for 500 years but the abnormality of the Peril on of mercury was one of

25:00of the Peril on of mercury was one of of the Peril on of mercury was one of the things that told us for 500 years the things that told us for 500 years the things that told us for 500 years that Newton had a lot right but he had that Newton had a lot right but he had that Newton had a lot right but he had something wrong at the core of his ideas something wrong at the core of his ideas something wrong at the core of his ideas and Einstein a simple guy who never and Einstein a simple guy who never and Einstein a simple guy who never didn't experiment in his life figured it didn't experiment in his life figured it didn't experiment in his life figured it out by doing a thought experiment in his out by doing a thought experiment in his out by doing a thought experiment in his head and when he came up with his four head and when he came up with his four head and when he came up with his four miracal papers um of course the world miracal papers um of course the world miracal papers um of course the world the centralized world of physics didn't the centralized world of physics didn't the centralized world of physics didn't believe a goddamn thing he said which is believe a goddamn thing he said which is believe a goddamn thing he said which is why he didn't get his Nobel Prize for so why he didn't get his Nobel Prize for so why he didn't get his Nobel Prize for so long but then during World War I when long but then during World War I when long but then during World War I when your king decided to get into a fight your king decided to get into a fight your king decided to get into a fight with his cousin Wilhelm in Germany uh with his cousin Wilhelm in Germany uh with his cousin Wilhelm in Germany uh Alfred Edington who was a Quaker a Alfred Edington who was a Quaker a Alfred Edington who was a Quaker a pacifist actually went to the Jungle in pacifist actually went to the Jungle in pacifist actually went to the Jungle in Africa and he proved Albert Einstein Africa and he proved Albert Einstein Africa and he proved Albert Einstein correct about time that time isn't correct about time that time isn't correct about time that time isn't absolute time is relative and a absolute time is relative and a absolute time is relative and a consequence of time being relative is

26:00consequence of time being relative is consequence of time being relative is that there is no cause and effect it's that there is no cause and effect it's that there is no cause and effect it's impossible what does that mean means impossible what does that mean means impossible what does that mean means that everything is based on probability that everything is based on probability that everything is based on probability so so so correlation is actually what we should correlation is actually what we should correlation is actually what we should be talking about not causation so many be talking about not causation so many be talking about not causation so many times when you hear times when you hear times when you hear people uh I I would say give criticism people uh I I would say give criticism people uh I I would say give criticism on Twitter or social media and say yeah on Twitter or social media and say yeah on Twitter or social media and say yeah but this is correlation not causation but this is correlation not causation but this is correlation not causation immediately they announce to you they're immediately they announce to you they're immediately they announce to you they're morons and you should absolutely uh morons and you should absolutely uh morons and you should absolutely uh decline to believe anything they say decline to believe anything they say decline to believe anything they say because they don't know the fundamentals because they don't know the fundamentals because they don't know the fundamentals of what quantum mechanics is quantum of what quantum mechanics is quantum of what quantum mechanics is quantum mechanics is the science of nature mechanics is the science of nature mechanics is the science of nature quantum mechanics is 100% based on quantum mechanics is 100% based on quantum mechanics is 100% based on probability not cause and effect the probability not cause and effect the probability not cause and effect the interesting thing is the NHS the FDA the interesting thing is the NHS the FDA the interesting thing is the NHS the FDA the CDC everybody who studies medicine CDC everybody who studies medicine CDC everybody who studies medicine believes that the gold standard studying believes that the gold standard studying believes that the gold standard studying things is a randomized control clinical things is a randomized control clinical things is a randomized control clinical trial which tells you that there is trial which tells you that there is trial which tells you that there is cause and effect that tells you cause and effect that tells you cause and effect that tells you fundamentally that the centralized fundamentally that the centralized fundamentally that the centralized Paradigm is flawed but nobody realizes

27:00Paradigm is flawed but nobody realizes Paradigm is flawed but nobody realizes they they don't take it back to where I they they don't take it back to where I they they don't take it back to where I just took it back to you to the laws of just took it back to you to the laws of just took it back to you to the laws of nature to Newton to Einstein and to nature to Newton to Einstein and to nature to Newton to Einstein and to Circle this back up and put a bow on Circle this back up and put a bow on Circle this back up and put a bow on this um it turns out that type one and this um it turns out that type one and this um it turns out that type one and type two diabetes at high latitude is type two diabetes at high latitude is type two diabetes at high latitude is highly correlated with the high latitude highly correlated with the high latitude highly correlated with the high latitude so what does that tell you tells you so what does that tell you tells you so what does that tell you tells you that circadian biology is at the core that circadian biology is at the core that circadian biology is at the core issue of type 1 and type two diabetes issue of type 1 and type two diabetes issue of type 1 and type two diabetes that is certainly not the message that that is certainly not the message that that is certainly not the message that you get from the NHS but you get from the NHS but you get from the NHS but interestingly it is the message that Dr interestingly it is the message that Dr interestingly it is the message that Dr Weller was telling you in between the Weller was telling you in between the Weller was telling you in between the words that he gave you about the Ted words that he gave you about the Ted words that he gave you about the Ted Talk and it tells you that people that Talk and it tells you that people that Talk and it tells you that people that tend to have higher blood pressures tend tend to have higher blood pressures tend tend to have higher blood pressures tend to have diabetes why because there's no to have diabetes why because there's no to have diabetes why because there's no UVA light so if you know anything about UVA light so if you know anything about UVA light so if you know anything about the diagnosis of type 1 and type two the diagnosis of type 1 and type two the diagnosis of type 1 and type two diabetes there's a syndrome called met diabetes there's a syndrome called met diabetes there's a syndrome called met abolic syndrome that has a lot of abolic syndrome that has a lot of abolic syndrome that has a lot of different things in it but one of the

28:00different things in it but one of the different things in it but one of the core metrics that's in it is high blood core metrics that's in it is high blood core metrics that's in it is high blood pressure now you know the reason why now pressure now you know the reason why now pressure now you know the reason why now you know why high blood pressure is you know why high blood pressure is you know why high blood pressure is correlated with type 1 and type two correlated with type 1 and type two correlated with type 1 and type two diabetes because it's correlated with diabetes because it's correlated with diabetes because it's correlated with high latitude that is poor UVA and UVB high latitude that is poor UVA and UVB high latitude that is poor UVA and UVB light it's also the reason why metabolic light it's also the reason why metabolic light it's also the reason why metabolic syndrome and obesity are correlated with syndrome and obesity are correlated with syndrome and obesity are correlated with low vitamin D levels for the same reason low vitamin D levels for the same reason low vitamin D levels for the same reason why because vitamin D levels are highly why because vitamin D levels are highly why because vitamin D levels are highly correlated with UVB sunlight which you correlated with UVB sunlight which you correlated with UVB sunlight which you know especially your latitude right now know especially your latitude right now know especially your latitude right now on what's today October 14th is on what's today October 14th is on what's today October 14th is horrendous yeah okay so I've got a horrendous yeah okay so I've got a horrendous yeah okay so I've got a question about correlation so I I I see question about correlation so I I I see question about correlation so I I I see what you're saying that that makes sense what you're saying that that makes sense what you're saying that that makes sense but not all correlations are like I but not all correlations are like I but not all correlations are like I guess correct would that be right to say guess correct would that be right to say guess correct would that be right to say how do you how do you how do you like think about the word that you just like think about the word that you just like think about the word that you just used Owen I want to be very I'm not used Owen I want to be very I'm not used Owen I want to be very I'm not trying trying to be um controversial

29:00trying trying to be um controversial trying trying to be um controversial with you I'm actually trying to be very with you I'm actually trying to be very with you I'm actually trying to be very accurate um the word correct okay this accurate um the word correct okay this accurate um the word correct okay this opinion the word truth is actually not opinion the word truth is actually not opinion the word truth is actually not it's not a really good word to use here it's not a really good word to use here it's not a really good word to use here why because if you understand what I why because if you understand what I why because if you understand what I just told you between Einstein and just told you between Einstein and just told you between Einstein and Newton and fundamentally understand Newton and fundamentally understand Newton and fundamentally understand truly what Einstein means in terms of truly what Einstein means in terms of truly what Einstein means in terms of medicine that correlation is the key medicine that correlation is the key medicine that correlation is the key then you begin to realize there is no then you begin to realize there is no then you begin to realize there is no correct answer and there is no real correct answer and there is no real correct answer and there is no real truth why because the truth is subject truth why because the truth is subject truth why because the truth is subject to new data that comes in and that to new data that comes in and that to new data that comes in and that actually is exactly what Quantum biology actually is exactly what Quantum biology actually is exactly what Quantum biology is about why because you can live at a is about why because you can live at a is about why because you can live at a very high latitude like you do and not very high latitude like you do and not very high latitude like you do and not have type one and type two diabetes if have type one and type two diabetes if have type one and type two diabetes if you're doing more things right than not you're doing more things right than not you're doing more things right than not why because correlation says that you're why because correlation says that you're why because correlation says that you're more probable and not if you live the more probable and not if you live the more probable and not if you live the right way you should be okay okay but right way you should be okay okay but right way you should be okay okay but the flip side of that is when you are in

30:00the flip side of that is when you are in the flip side of that is when you are in the pub too much at night with your the pub too much at night with your the pub too much at night with your mates watching soccer and watching mates watching soccer and watching mates watching soccer and watching football um and I don't know say you're football um and I don't know say you're football um and I don't know say you're an IT specialist or you work for the an IT specialist or you work for the an IT specialist or you work for the power company it's much more likely that power company it's much more likely that power company it's much more likely that you're going to have the problem with you're going to have the problem with you're going to have the problem with type one and type two diabetes because type one and type two diabetes because type one and type two diabetes because it's correlated But realize both of it's correlated But realize both of it's correlated But realize both of these these these situations you could be right in the situations you could be right in the situations you could be right in the same spot in same spot in same spot in England but have two radically different England but have two radically different England but have two radically different outcomes one would have type one outcomes one would have type one outcomes one would have type one diabetes and one wouldn't and your diabetes and one wouldn't and your diabetes and one wouldn't and your conundrum as a young man is to really conundrum as a young man is to really conundrum as a young man is to really understand um understand um understand um how that possibly can happen and and how that possibly can happen and and how that possibly can happen and and what I'm trying to explain to you is what I'm trying to explain to you is what I'm trying to explain to you is actually how that happens because time actually how that happens because time actually how that happens because time in fact everything is relative in nature in fact everything is relative in nature in fact everything is relative in nature because of Einstein 's rules because of because of Einstein 's rules because of because of Einstein 's rules because of how he updated Newton but we act in

31:00how he updated Newton but we act in how he updated Newton but we act in medicine like Newton is still right we medicine like Newton is still right we medicine like Newton is still right we we we still think that time is absolute we we still think that time is absolute we we still think that time is absolute that's the reason why we hear so many that's the reason why we hear so many that's the reason why we hear so many people go around saying um well it it's people go around saying um well it it's people go around saying um well it it's cause and effect that's the reason why cause and effect that's the reason why cause and effect that's the reason why we do randomized control clinical trials we do randomized control clinical trials we do randomized control clinical trials and what makes me I guess so and what makes me I guess so and what makes me I guess so controversial and so difficult to deal controversial and so difficult to deal controversial and so difficult to deal with with people on podcast is because with with people on podcast is because with with people on podcast is because they never delve into this area that you they never delve into this area that you they never delve into this area that you and I are delving into very much and and I are delving into very much and and I are delving into very much and when you actually hear me describe it to when you actually hear me describe it to when you actually hear me describe it to you you're like this is not the Diary of you you're like this is not the Diary of you you're like this is not the Diary of a Madman this is actually somebody who's a Madman this is actually somebody who's a Madman this is actually somebody who's really thought about this deeply and really thought about this deeply and really thought about this deeply and parsed out the difference of truly what parsed out the difference of truly what parsed out the difference of truly what the Paradigm of Newton and the Paradigm the Paradigm of Newton and the Paradigm the Paradigm of Newton and the Paradigm of Einstein really is because I think of Einstein really is because I think of Einstein really is because I think when most people learn physics um they when most people learn physics um they when most people learn physics um they they learn the the basic loow hanging they learn the the basic loow hanging they learn the the basic loow hanging fruit um that hey we use Newton's fruit um that hey we use Newton's fruit um that hey we use Newton's physics to get to the moon and that's

32:00physics to get to the moon and that's physics to get to the moon and that's true we did but Newton's physics is not true we did but Newton's physics is not true we did but Newton's physics is not good enough to describe Quantum biology good enough to describe Quantum biology good enough to describe Quantum biology and see there in lies the big issue and and see there in lies the big issue and and see there in lies the big issue and since we're alive sentent beings and since we're alive sentent beings and since we're alive sentent beings and what you really want to talk to me about what you really want to talk to me about what you really want to talk to me about is medicine and biology then we have to is medicine and biology then we have to is medicine and biology then we have to have this discussion we have to have have this discussion we have to have have this discussion we have to have this understanding because the next this understanding because the next this understanding because the next questions that you're going to ask me to questions that you're going to ask me to questions that you're going to ask me to follow through on this if you don't follow through on this if you don't follow through on this if you don't understand where my persp persective understand where my persp persective understand where my persp persective comes from you're going to think I'm bat comes from you're going to think I'm bat comes from you're going to think I'm bat crazy when it really turns out crazy when it really turns out crazy when it really turns out you're bat crazy understand yeah I think so that's crazy understand yeah I think so that's right and that's the reason why I am right and that's the reason why I am right and that's the reason why I am such a controversial guy for the FDA the such a controversial guy for the FDA the such a controversial guy for the FDA the CDC the NHS because their perspective on CDC the NHS because their perspective on CDC the NHS because their perspective on health fundamentally at at the most health fundamentally at at the most health fundamentally at at the most fundamental levels is absolutely in fundamental levels is absolutely in fundamental levels is absolutely in congruent with quantum mechanics and congruent with quantum mechanics and congruent with quantum mechanics and when you understand that all of a sudden when you understand that all of a sudden when you understand that all of a sudden you begin to realize why Uncle Jack may

33:00you begin to realize why Uncle Jack may you begin to realize why Uncle Jack may have answers that the centralized have answers that the centralized have answers that the centralized Paradigm can never give Paradigm can never give Paradigm can never give you okay bring bringing it back to you okay bring bringing it back to you okay bring bringing it back to people with high latitudes can live well people with high latitudes can live well people with high latitudes can live well it sound I know you you've talked a lot it sound I know you you've talked a lot it sound I know you you've talked a lot about like cold about like cold about like cold thermogenesis and it sounded like when thermogenesis and it sounded like when thermogenesis and it sounded like when you were talking about those um people you were talking about those um people you were talking about those um people doing very well in like Scotland and the doing very well in like Scotland and the doing very well in like Scotland and the Scandinavian Iceland Iceland are Scandinavian Iceland Iceland are Scandinavian Iceland Iceland are probably the probably the probably the the highest living I should say longest the highest living I should say longest the highest living I should say longest living most healthy people in all of living most healthy people in all of living most healthy people in all of Scandinavia swedes are good so are Scandinavia swedes are good so are Scandinavia swedes are good so are Norwegians the the people that are Norwegians the the people that are Norwegians the the people that are Finnish are not as good they they don't Finnish are not as good they they don't Finnish are not as good they they don't do as well and then the poles and do as well and then the poles and do as well and then the poles and Russians have their own problems why Russians have their own problems why Russians have their own problems why because they use too much alcohol at because they use too much alcohol at because they use too much alcohol at high latitudes I think part of the high latitudes I think part of the high latitudes I think part of the reason why people in the UK and Ireland reason why people in the UK and Ireland reason why people in the UK and Ireland struggle is for the same reason they use struggle is for the same reason they use struggle is for the same reason they use alcohol but different types you guys alcohol but different types you guys alcohol but different types you guys tend to use barley and yeast where the

34:00tend to use barley and yeast where the tend to use barley and yeast where the the poles and the Russians tend to drink the poles and the Russians tend to drink the poles and the Russians tend to drink you know grain alcohol from vodka and you know grain alcohol from vodka and you know grain alcohol from vodka and the real issue with those things is that the real issue with those things is that the real issue with those things is that they dehydrate mitochondria so if you they dehydrate mitochondria so if you they dehydrate mitochondria so if you make less water in your mitochondria you make less water in your mitochondria you make less water in your mitochondria you actually have stressing the system that actually have stressing the system that actually have stressing the system that means you need more sunlight so that's means you need more sunlight so that's means you need more sunlight so that's why uh people that tend to have why uh people that tend to have why uh people that tend to have alcoholism at high latitudes tend to alcoholism at high latitudes tend to alcoholism at high latitudes tend to have really horrendous have really horrendous have really horrendous outcomes okay so yeah you talked a lot outcomes okay so yeah you talked a lot outcomes okay so yeah you talked a lot about cold for people high latitudes I I about cold for people high latitudes I I about cold for people high latitudes I I believe magnetism can also help but is believe magnetism can also help but is believe magnetism can also help but is there any other things that people there any other things that people there any other things that people should be like what's the like I guess should be like what's the like I guess should be like what's the like I guess what are other things that can create what are other things that can create what are other things that can create the difference magnetic flux you brought the difference magnetic flux you brought the difference magnetic flux you brought that up it's a good one because you know that up it's a good one because you know that up it's a good one because you know Iceland has it the UK sucks at at having Iceland has it the UK sucks at at having Iceland has it the UK sucks at at having that it used to have a strong magnetic that it used to have a strong magnetic that it used to have a strong magnetic history because you know it is a history because you know it is a history because you know it is a volcanic uh part of town but on I should volcanic uh part of town but on I should volcanic uh part of town but on I should say on Earth but that was a long long say on Earth but that was a long long say on Earth but that was a long long long time ago uh Norway uh same way but

35:00long time ago uh Norway uh same way but long time ago uh Norway uh same way but Iceland has got that big time why Iceland has got that big time why Iceland has got that big time why because they're on the hot spot in the because they're on the hot spot in the because they're on the hot spot in the North Atlantic now and that's the reason North Atlantic now and that's the reason North Atlantic now and that's the reason why they do so well but the real issue why they do so well but the real issue why they do so well but the real issue is the people all around you the is the people all around you the is the people all around you the Germanic people the UK people and the Germanic people the UK people and the Germanic people the UK people and the Norwegians if you embrace the elements Norwegians if you embrace the elements Norwegians if you embrace the elements you will do well um the key is you have you will do well um the key is you have you will do well um the key is you have to realize that means the things that we to realize that means the things that we to realize that means the things that we Embrace in Modern Life are really Embrace in Modern Life are really Embrace in Modern Life are really detrimental at a high latitude plus you detrimental at a high latitude plus you detrimental at a high latitude plus you have a smaller margin of safety so you have a smaller margin of safety so you have a smaller margin of safety so you can't get away with this for two or can't get away with this for two or can't get away with this for two or three or four decades like people in the three or four decades like people in the three or four decades like people in the 13th latitude can and that's the reason 13th latitude can and that's the reason 13th latitude can and that's the reason why we see transgenerational diseases why we see transgenerational diseases why we see transgenerational diseases like type 1 diabetes all of a sudden like type 1 diabetes all of a sudden like type 1 diabetes all of a sudden show up in Finland like in in the last show up in Finland like in in the last show up in Finland like in in the last five or six decades this has kind of five or six decades this has kind of five or six decades this has kind of shocked people is the same thing Owen shocked people is the same thing Owen shocked people is the same thing Owen going on at low latitudes the answer is going on at low latitudes the answer is going on at low latitudes the answer is yes and it's going on in India right now yes and it's going on in India right now yes and it's going on in India right now and since your country has such a strong and since your country has such a strong and since your country has such a strong history with India through you know uh

36:00history with India through you know uh history with India through you know uh the colonial period realize that for the colonial period realize that for the colonial period realize that for 5,000 years the Indians who lived at the 5,000 years the Indians who lived at the 5,000 years the Indians who lived at the southern tip uh have been vegans they've southern tip uh have been vegans they've southern tip uh have been vegans they've been doing a lot wrong too but the been doing a lot wrong too but the been doing a lot wrong too but the reason they got away with it is because reason they got away with it is because reason they got away with it is because they had more margin of safety kind of they had more margin of safety kind of they had more margin of safety kind of like I explained to you why now do we like I explained to you why now do we like I explained to you why now do we have more type two diabetics in Southern have more type two diabetics in Southern have more type two diabetics in Southern India than we have anywhere else in the India than we have anywhere else in the India than we have anywhere else in the world that includes the United States world that includes the United States world that includes the United States because now all the call centers for because now all the call centers for because now all the call centers for Google and Facebook are located there so Google and Facebook are located there so Google and Facebook are located there so what's happening all of those people are what's happening all of those people are what's happening all of those people are now suffering for the same reason that I now suffering for the same reason that I now suffering for the same reason that I just mentioned to you that the Finnish just mentioned to you that the Finnish just mentioned to you that the Finnish people are so why am I having this people are so why am I having this people are so why am I having this discussion with you because I really discussion with you because I really discussion with you because I really want to parse this out so you understand want to parse this out so you understand want to parse this out so you understand this isn't really a high versus low this isn't really a high versus low this isn't really a high versus low latitude story it seems that way when latitude story it seems that way when latitude story it seems that way when you're a surface dweller when you really you're a surface dweller when you really you're a surface dweller when you really don't understand the physics that I don't understand the physics that I don't understand the physics that I tried to explain to you between Newton tried to explain to you between Newton tried to explain to you between Newton and Einstein but when you really par it and Einstein but when you really par it and Einstein but when you really par it out and you begin to see it you're like out and you begin to see it you're like out and you begin to see it you're like wow Jack's saying that these things show

37:00wow Jack's saying that these things show wow Jack's saying that these things show up not only at high latitude but they're up not only at high latitude but they're up not only at high latitude but they're showing up at low latitude the more that showing up at low latitude the more that showing up at low latitude the more that we're we're discharging oursel from we're we're discharging oursel from we're we're discharging oursel from nature the more that we're not embracing nature the more that we're not embracing nature the more that we're not embracing you know light and dark Cycles the more you know light and dark Cycles the more you know light and dark Cycles the more we're not embracing temperature so let's we're not embracing temperature so let's we're not embracing temperature so let's be clear about this Owen because this is be clear about this Owen because this is be clear about this Owen because this is at the core of really what you want to at the core of really what you want to at the core of really what you want to be asking me why is it that circadian be asking me why is it that circadian be asking me why is it that circadian biology only pays attention to two real biology only pays attention to two real biology only pays attention to two real variables it's light and dark and variables it's light and dark and variables it's light and dark and temperature now you know the reason why temperature now you know the reason why temperature now you know the reason why now you're beginning to get to the core now you're beginning to get to the core now you're beginning to get to the core of how the clock system in our eye and of how the clock system in our eye and of how the clock system in our eye and the clock system in our biology really the clock system in our biology really the clock system in our biology really works it's an optical lus clock that is works it's an optical lus clock that is works it's an optical lus clock that is linked to temperature because linked to temperature because linked to temperature because temperature tells us not only about temperature tells us not only about temperature tells us not only about latitude but it also tells us about latitude but it also tells us about latitude but it also tells us about altitude how do you know that you've altitude how do you know that you've altitude how do you know that you've been in a plane before you know when you been in a plane before you know when you been in a plane before you know when you put that stupid little thing on in the put that stupid little thing on in the put that stupid little thing on in the plane it tells you when you're at 35 plane it tells you when you're at 35 plane it tells you when you're at 35 5,000 ft it's minus 40 degrees outside

38:005,000 ft it's minus 40 degrees outside 5,000 ft it's minus 40 degrees outside you're like wow the higher you go up in you're like wow the higher you go up in you're like wow the higher you go up in the air the colder it gets well think the air the colder it gets well think the air the colder it gets well think about that like um for example when about that like um for example when about that like um for example when you're in the Alps in Europe you know you're in the Alps in Europe you know you're in the Alps in Europe you know can you make vitamin D at a high can you make vitamin D at a high can you make vitamin D at a high latitude in Europe yeah you the problem latitude in Europe yeah you the problem latitude in Europe yeah you the problem is you can only do it in a couple places is you can only do it in a couple places is you can only do it in a couple places why because the mountains are only high why because the mountains are only high why because the mountains are only high in those areas but what you should in those areas but what you should in those areas but what you should immediately do is go back to the immediately do is go back to the immediately do is go back to the original part of this podcast I try to original part of this podcast I try to original part of this podcast I try to get you to think about Africans and get you to think about Africans and get you to think about Africans and melanin and the Boreal forest why am I melanin and the Boreal forest why am I melanin and the Boreal forest why am I bringing you back and forth why am I bringing you back and forth why am I bringing you back and forth why am I pulling you here and there is because I pulling you here and there is because I pulling you here and there is because I want you to understand how the clock want you to understand how the clock want you to understand how the clock mechanism really works in you it's a mechanism really works in you it's a mechanism really works in you it's a optical lattice clot that pays attention optical lattice clot that pays attention optical lattice clot that pays attention to light dark and temperature that's how to light dark and temperature that's how to light dark and temperature that's how it responds so when you ask me the it responds so when you ask me the it responds so when you ask me the fundamental fundamental fundamental question Jack I'm a high latitude liver question Jack I'm a high latitude liver question Jack I'm a high latitude liver how do I live at high latitude and stay how do I live at high latitude and stay how do I live at high latitude and stay healthy make sure that you pay attention healthy make sure that you pay attention healthy make sure that you pay attention to your light and dark cycles and the

39:00to your light and dark cycles and the to your light and dark cycles and the temperature variation so if for argument temperature variation so if for argument temperature variation so if for argument sake it's Owen sheby October 14th the sake it's Owen sheby October 14th the sake it's Owen sheby October 14th the sun rose I'm just gonna guess okay sun rose I'm just gonna guess okay sun rose I'm just gonna guess okay because I don't know what really because I don't know what really because I don't know what really latitude you are the sun rose let's say latitude you are the sun rose let's say latitude you are the sun rose let's say at 4:45 a.m. was 0 and up at 4:45 a.m. at 4:45 a.m. was 0 and up at 4:45 a.m. at 4:45 a.m. was 0 and up at 4:45 a.m. did he see it the answer is probably no did he see it the answer is probably no did he see it the answer is probably no and when the sun set okay October 14th and when the sun set okay October 14th and when the sun set okay October 14th I'm going to guess maybe 5 I'm going to guess maybe 5 I'm going to guess maybe 5 5:30 uh did all the lights in Owen's 5:30 uh did all the lights in Owen's 5:30 uh did all the lights in Owen's life go out at 55:30 oh he went to the life go out at 55:30 oh he went to the life go out at 55:30 oh he went to the pub that night I got you so and then pub that night I got you so and then pub that night I got you so and then then the the last thing is he's got this then the the last thing is he's got this then the the last thing is he's got this beautiful you know Scottish type of beautiful you know Scottish type of beautiful you know Scottish type of print on right now uh the last time I print on right now uh the last time I print on right now uh the last time I checked I don't think any mammals ever checked I don't think any mammals ever checked I don't think any mammals ever come out of its mother wearing a jacket come out of its mother wearing a jacket come out of its mother wearing a jacket like that so are you really a thermo like that so are you really a thermo like that so are you really a thermo regulator to your species the answer is

40:00regulator to your species the answer is regulator to your species the answer is no see what I'm trying to explain to you no see what I'm trying to explain to you no see what I'm trying to explain to you is you are breaking the mechanism in you is you are breaking the mechanism in you is you are breaking the mechanism in you that pays attention to all these things that pays attention to all these things that pays attention to all these things so why don't you have as much melanin in so why don't you have as much melanin in so why don't you have as much melanin in you so if I brought you to El Salvador you so if I brought you to El Salvador you so if I brought you to El Salvador because you didn't see the sunrise you because you didn't see the sunrise you because you didn't see the sunrise you didn't see the sunset it wasn't dark at didn't see the sunset it wasn't dark at didn't see the sunset it wasn't dark at night and you're wearing a a ridiculous night and you're wearing a a ridiculous night and you're wearing a a ridiculous jacket and not having the windows open jacket and not having the windows open jacket and not having the windows open to allow the temperature that's present to allow the temperature that's present to allow the temperature that's present at your current latitude to offset your at your current latitude to offset your at your current latitude to offset your biology and that would set the biology and that would set the biology and that would set the thermostat for how much melanin is in thermostat for how much melanin is in thermostat for how much melanin is in your skin that's how it works my friend your skin that's how it works my friend your skin that's how it works my friend that's Quantum biology 101 that's when that's Quantum biology 101 that's when that's Quantum biology 101 that's when you come to my classroom and I explain you come to my classroom and I explain you come to my classroom and I explain to you exactly how we work and I don't to you exactly how we work and I don't to you exactly how we work and I don't really care if anybody doesn't like it really care if anybody doesn't like it really care if anybody doesn't like it you know why because it's the truth you know why because it's the truth you know why because it's the truth based on the best information that we based on the best information that we based on the best information that we know today now that doesn't mean it's know today now that doesn't mean it's know today now that doesn't mean it's not going to change because it can not going to change because it can not going to change because it can change and in our biologic history as I

41:00change and in our biologic history as I change and in our biologic history as I mentioned in the uberman podcast you mentioned in the uberman podcast you mentioned in the uberman podcast you heard it I told you the first wideband heard it I told you the first wideband heard it I told you the first wideband semiconductor we ever had was was uh semiconductor we ever had was was uh semiconductor we ever had was was uh chlorophyll the second one was chlorophyll the second one was chlorophyll the second one was hemoglobin and the third one was melanin hemoglobin and the third one was melanin hemoglobin and the third one was melanin so what am I telling you these things so what am I telling you these things so what am I telling you these things are innovated in evolutionary history to are innovated in evolutionary history to are innovated in evolutionary history to pay attention to the light and dark pay attention to the light and dark pay attention to the light and dark cycles and temperature and that's the cycles and temperature and that's the cycles and temperature and that's the reason currently why we have so many reason currently why we have so many reason currently why we have so many different hog loin in the Maman tree different hog loin in the Maman tree different hog loin in the Maman tree it's also the reason why we have so many it's also the reason why we have so many it's also the reason why we have so many different chlorophylls in Plants because different chlorophylls in Plants because different chlorophylls in Plants because these things are how we adapt to the these things are how we adapt to the these things are how we adapt to the changing EMF environment the Sun the changing EMF environment the Sun the changing EMF environment the Sun the problem is we happen to be the silly problem is we happen to be the silly problem is we happen to be the silly talking monkeys that have changed the talking monkeys that have changed the talking monkeys that have changed the EMF environment because now you have EMF environment because now you have EMF environment because now you have headphones on your head and you wear headphones on your head and you wear headphones on your head and you wear those iPods in your ear and you go out those iPods in your ear and you go out those iPods in your ear and you go out and listen to Coldplay at night and you and listen to Coldplay at night and you and listen to Coldplay at night and you you know you do all the things that you you know you do all the things that you you know you do all the things that you don't even think that are an EMF problem don't even think that are an EMF problem don't even think that are an EMF problem because they're not consistent with the

42:00because they're not consistent with the because they're not consistent with the EMF from the Sun and there in lies the EMF from the Sun and there in lies the EMF from the Sun and there in lies the reason why people at the UK are reason why people at the UK are reason why people at the UK are different than the people in India different than the people in India different than the people in India the're different people in the United the're different people in the United the're different people in the United States that are different than the States that are different than the States that are different than the people in Africa this is the reason why people in Africa this is the reason why people in Africa this is the reason why we have variations all over the place we have variations all over the place we have variations all over the place it's fully it's fully it's fully explainable Quantum mechanically but do explainable Quantum mechanically but do explainable Quantum mechanically but do you know why people don't understand it you know why people don't understand it you know why people don't understand it because they haven't done the heavy because they haven't done the heavy because they haven't done the heavy work thinking like what we're doing in work thinking like what we're doing in work thinking like what we're doing in this podcast right now I can see as I this podcast right now I can see as I this podcast right now I can see as I talk to you I can see your face and your talk to you I can see your face and your talk to you I can see your face and your eyes I hope you look back at yourself eyes I hope you look back at yourself eyes I hope you look back at yourself when we do this and you go wow this is when we do this and you go wow this is when we do this and you go wow this is beginning to make a lot more sense to me beginning to make a lot more sense to me beginning to make a lot more sense to me talking to this guy and that's the whole talking to this guy and that's the whole talking to this guy and that's the whole point that is the whole point of doing point that is the whole point of doing point that is the whole point of doing podcasts I want people to understand podcasts I want people to understand podcasts I want people to understand that what I'm telling people isn't crazy that what I'm telling people isn't crazy that what I'm telling people isn't crazy talk dude this is the best medical talk dude this is the best medical talk dude this is the best medical advice you're ever going to get from advice you're ever going to get from advice you're ever going to get from anybody but I need you to understand anybody but I need you to understand anybody but I need you to understand this perspective so that you don't think

43:00this perspective so that you don't think this perspective so that you don't think that I'm crazy so like when I said to that I'm crazy so like when I said to that I'm crazy so like when I said to Owen earlier him and his mates are not Owen earlier him and his mates are not Owen earlier him and his mates are not going to start a coconut Farm in the UK going to start a coconut Farm in the UK going to start a coconut Farm in the UK because that is utterly ridiculous now because that is utterly ridiculous now because that is utterly ridiculous now you begin to realize why asking me the you begin to realize why asking me the you begin to realize why asking me the question well sunburns are clearly bad question well sunburns are clearly bad question well sunburns are clearly bad right well are they from my perspective right well are they from my perspective right well are they from my perspective you begin to realize maybe they're not you begin to realize maybe they're not you begin to realize maybe they're not maybe it's okay go to hide Park take all maybe it's okay go to hide Park take all maybe it's okay go to hide Park take all my clothes off and put a kiniki on and my clothes off and put a kiniki on and my clothes off and put a kiniki on and get a sunburn it it makes maybe a lot get a sunburn it it makes maybe a lot get a sunburn it it makes maybe a lot more sense than wearing a plaid jacket more sense than wearing a plaid jacket more sense than wearing a plaid jacket inside with headphones on my head and inside with headphones on my head and inside with headphones on my head and wondering you know why I'm trying to wondering you know why I'm trying to wondering you know why I'm trying to stay healthy the rest of my life that's stay healthy the rest of my life that's stay healthy the rest of my life that's the kind of insight that I want to bring the kind of insight that I want to bring the kind of insight that I want to bring to the people that live at the high to the people that live at the high to the people that live at the high latitude I don't want all of you to latitude I don't want all of you to latitude I don't want all of you to think that you need to move to El think that you need to move to El think that you need to move to El Salvador you need to move to the Canary Salvador you need to move to the Canary Salvador you need to move to the Canary Islands that's not the goal goal is I Islands that's not the goal goal is I Islands that's not the goal goal is I want you to understand understand why want you to understand understand why want you to understand understand why you're getting sick now why the you're getting sick now why the

44:00you're getting sick now why the NHS is is you know offering you co shots NHS is is you know offering you co shots NHS is is you know offering you co shots when you really don't need them um there when you really don't need them um there when you really don't need them um there is a reason these things are happening is a reason these things are happening is a reason these things are happening and I think the smarter you are uh I've and I think the smarter you are uh I've and I think the smarter you are uh I've said this in multiple podcasts I'm G say said this in multiple podcasts I'm G say said this in multiple podcasts I'm G say it here again because I think it's it here again because I think it's it here again because I think it's important In Darwin's time 1859 another important In Darwin's time 1859 another important In Darwin's time 1859 another UK guy he always told you it was about UK guy he always told you it was about UK guy he always told you it was about the survival of Fus what do I tell the survival of Fus what do I tell the survival of Fus what do I tell people now it's no longer about the people now it's no longer about the people now it's no longer about the survival of the fittest it's now about survival of the fittest it's now about survival of the fittest it's now about the survival of the the survival of the the survival of the wisest okay and what is this podcast wisest okay and what is this podcast wisest okay and what is this podcast that I'm laying out to you this is the that I'm laying out to you this is the that I'm laying out to you this is the wisdom that Darwin never had why quantum wisdom that Darwin never had why quantum wisdom that Darwin never had why quantum mechanics wasn't present in his life mechanics wasn't present in his life mechanics wasn't present in his life remember his whole idea was based around remember his whole idea was based around remember his whole idea was based around the Newtonian idea of absolute time and the Newtonian idea of absolute time and the Newtonian idea of absolute time and time over long periods of time but what time over long periods of time but what time over long periods of time but what are the things in biology that that are the things in biology that that are the things in biology that that absolutely absolutely absolutely break Darwin's theory or of species and

45:00break Darwin's theory or of species and break Darwin's theory or of species and you know this because you said you you know this because you said you you know this because you said you listen to the UB podcast the two things listen to the UB podcast the two things listen to the UB podcast the two things that really are a problem for Newton are that really are a problem for Newton are that really are a problem for Newton are the age of mammals in other words how the age of mammals in other words how the age of mammals in other words how mammals came to be but the other big one mammals came to be but the other big one mammals came to be but the other big one is the caman explosion like if it's is the caman explosion like if it's is the caman explosion like if it's really about you know small mutation really about you know small mutation really about you know small mutation changes then why all of a sudden do we changes then why all of a sudden do we changes then why all of a sudden do we have 32 Fila in the fossil record have 32 Fila in the fossil record have 32 Fila in the fossil record literally overnight 650 million years literally overnight 650 million years literally overnight 650 million years ago that totally blows his stuff out of ago that totally blows his stuff out of ago that totally blows his stuff out of the water and then if you don't want to the water and then if you don't want to the water and then if you don't want to use the big history let's go to the use the big history let's go to the use the big history let's go to the small history that I always use uh 1900 small history that I always use uh 1900 small history that I always use uh 1900 United States colon cancer was the 37th United States colon cancer was the 37th United States colon cancer was the 37th leading cause of cancer today it's leading cause of cancer today it's leading cause of cancer today it's number two explain in 125 years how it number two explain in 125 years how it number two explain in 125 years how it went from 37 to two if if Darwin's right went from 37 to two if if Darwin's right went from 37 to two if if Darwin's right oh he's not why because it goes back to oh he's not why because it goes back to oh he's not why because it goes back to what we just talked about you will never what we just talked about you will never what we just talked about you will never understand Uncle Jack's ideas until you understand Uncle Jack's ideas until you understand Uncle Jack's ideas until you understand the difference fundamentally understand the difference fundamentally understand the difference fundamentally when you milk it all down comes down

46:00when you milk it all down comes down when you milk it all down comes down from an understanding of time absolute from an understanding of time absolute from an understanding of time absolute Time and Relative time is the reason why Time and Relative time is the reason why Time and Relative time is the reason why this has happened and there's been more this has happened and there's been more this has happened and there's been more environmental changes in the last 125 environmental changes in the last 125 environmental changes in the last 125 years that have led to that change years that have led to that change years that have led to that change that's what has changed the the uh that's what has changed the the uh that's what has changed the the uh genomewide um changes that you expect genomewide um changes that you expect genomewide um changes that you expect that you see in the literature it's that you see in the literature it's that you see in the literature it's called called called gwas um people don't realize that gwas gwas um people don't realize that gwas gwas um people don't realize that gwas was preceded by mitochondria Ro and RNs was preceded by mitochondria Ro and RNs was preceded by mitochondria Ro and RNs changes that are fundamentally tied to changes that are fundamentally tied to changes that are fundamentally tied to alterations of the light dark and alterations of the light dark and alterations of the light dark and temperature cycle and when you put all temperature cycle and when you put all temperature cycle and when you put all this together and this is like a soup this together and this is like a soup this together and this is like a soup and you sit in this and you listen to and you sit in this and you listen to and you sit in this and you listen to this podcast over and over and over this podcast over and over and over this podcast over and over and over again because you're right I'm not again because you're right I'm not again because you're right I'm not slowing down I'm giving it to you slowing down I'm giving it to you slowing down I'm giving it to you through a fire hose I want you to keep through a fire hose I want you to keep through a fire hose I want you to keep understanding that once you get to the

47:00understanding that once you get to the understanding that once you get to the level I want you at then and only then level I want you at then and only then level I want you at then and only then will you begin to realize that the guys will you begin to realize that the guys will you begin to realize that the guys in NHS the guys in the FDA the guys who in NHS the guys in the FDA the guys who in NHS the guys in the FDA the guys who you're going to see you know I don't you're going to see you know I don't you're going to see you know I don't know to get cumin taken out of your know to get cumin taken out of your know to get cumin taken out of your ears they're good for certain things ears they're good for certain things ears they're good for certain things like if you break your arm you get a like if you break your arm you get a like if you break your arm you get a subd hematoma you break your neck but if subd hematoma you break your neck but if subd hematoma you break your neck but if you have type one or type two IAB or you you have type one or type two IAB or you you have type one or type two IAB or you have metabolic syndrome they're probably have metabolic syndrome they're probably have metabolic syndrome they're probably not the guys you want to listen to not the guys you want to listen to not the guys you want to listen to you're going to want to listen to Owen you're going to want to listen to Owen you're going to want to listen to Owen sheb podcast with Uncle Jack and go sheb podcast with Uncle Jack and go sheb podcast with Uncle Jack and go now I understand why going out my mates now I understand why going out my mates now I understand why going out my mates and drinking beer at night is a real and drinking beer at night is a real and drinking beer at night is a real problem for my problem for my problem for my diabetes yeah you said a lot that I'm diabetes yeah you said a lot that I'm diabetes yeah you said a lot that I'm definitely going to have to go back and definitely going to have to go back and definitely going to have to go back and and digest all of this but it's and digest all of this but it's and digest all of this but it's interesting you mentioned temperature a interesting you mentioned temperature a interesting you mentioned temperature a lot because lot because lot because I especially actually I didn't mention I especially actually I didn't mention I especially actually I didn't mention it ens just so you know when you go back it ens just so you know when you go back it ens just so you know when you go back and listen to this because I want you to and listen to this because I want you to and listen to this because I want you to fact check yourself you're the guy that fact check yourself you're the guy that fact check yourself you're the guy that brought temperature up first because you

48:00brought temperature up first because you brought temperature up first because you mentioned cold Derma Genesis why did I mentioned cold Derma Genesis why did I mentioned cold Derma Genesis why did I bring it up because I'm trying to bring it up because I'm trying to bring it up because I'm trying to explain to you how temperature fits into explain to you how temperature fits into explain to you how temperature fits into the framework of circadium biology the framework of circadium biology the framework of circadium biology because you're a high latitude guy because you're a high latitude guy because you're a high latitude guy realize that cold is a huge benefit for realize that cold is a huge benefit for realize that cold is a huge benefit for you humongous the problem is most people you humongous the problem is most people you humongous the problem is most people that live at high latitude truly don't that live at high latitude truly don't that live at high latitude truly don't embrace the cold as much as they should embrace the cold as much as they should embrace the cold as much as they should and that's the point I'm trying to get and that's the point I'm trying to get and that's the point I'm trying to get to you yeah um the the thing is people to you yeah um the the thing is people to you yeah um the the thing is people who live at the 13th latitude it's kind who live at the 13th latitude it's kind who live at the 13th latitude it's kind of funny like if you in El Salvador now of funny like if you in El Salvador now of funny like if you in El Salvador now you would see people when it's 70 you would see people when it's 70 you would see people when it's 70 or I don't know what the temperatur is or I don't know what the temperatur is or I don't know what the temperatur is in Celsius but 70 Fahrenheit which I in Celsius but 70 Fahrenheit which I in Celsius but 70 Fahrenheit which I guess would be like 17 16 or 17c they're guess would be like 17 16 or 17c they're guess would be like 17 16 or 17c they're walking around with jackets that you walking around with jackets that you walking around with jackets that you guys would wear you know when it's guys would wear you know when it's guys would wear you know when it's December and that relativity tells you December and that relativity tells you December and that relativity tells you but remember those people that are down but remember those people that are down but remember those people that are down there have way more melanin in their there have way more melanin in their there have way more melanin in their skin so they can't can handle wide skin so they can't can handle wide skin so they can't can handle wide swings in temperature that's the reason swings in temperature that's the reason swings in temperature that's the reason why they they struggle with CT but

49:00why they they struggle with CT but why they they struggle with CT but people that have less melon in their people that have less melon in their people that have less melon in their skin that have light eyes they tend to skin that have light eyes they tend to skin that have light eyes they tend to do phenomenal with CT y because their do phenomenal with CT y because their do phenomenal with CT y because their Hypes also on coupled they're designed Hypes also on coupled they're designed Hypes also on coupled they're designed to work better in cold to work better in cold to work better in cold environments yeah I was just going to environments yeah I was just going to environments yeah I was just going to say that I have been paying attention to say that I have been paying attention to say that I have been paying attention to light like pretty well I would say over light like pretty well I would say over light like pretty well I would say over the last few years but cold has been a the last few years but cold has been a the last few years but cold has been a bit more recent I didn't realize how bit more recent I didn't realize how bit more recent I didn't realize how important it really can be and I didn't important it really can be and I didn't important it really can be and I didn't I didn't know that cold was really that I didn't know that cold was really that I didn't know that cold was really that related to Cadian biology it's huge I related to Cadian biology it's huge I related to Cadian biology it's huge I kind of thought it was just like a kind of thought it was just like a kind of thought it was just like a separate thing well let's since you said separate thing well let's since you said separate thing well let's since you said that let's let's let's get something in that let's let's let's get something in that let's let's let's get something in your head not only for you but also for your head not only for you but also for your head not only for you but also for your audience so they get it I want you your audience so they get it I want you your audience so they get it I want you to think about light and dark like the to think about light and dark like the to think about light and dark like the minute and hour hand I'm going to tell minute and hour hand I'm going to tell minute and hour hand I'm going to tell you the sunlight is like the hour hand you the sunlight is like the hour hand you the sunlight is like the hour hand on a clock The Darkness at night is like on a clock The Darkness at night is like on a clock The Darkness at night is like the minute hand on a clock the minute hand on a clock the minute hand on a clock then temperature is like the second hand then temperature is like the second hand then temperature is like the second hand on the clock they're all important to

50:00on the clock they're all important to on the clock they're all important to tell the time but one is more important tell the time but one is more important tell the time but one is more important than the other so the hour of the day is than the other so the hour of the day is than the other so the hour of the day is critical because that gives you a pretty critical because that gives you a pretty critical because that gives you a pretty good idea of you know when it's time to good idea of you know when it's time to good idea of you know when it's time to eat dinner okay or when it's time to eat eat dinner okay or when it's time to eat eat dinner okay or when it's time to eat breakfast the minute hand tells you breakfast the minute hand tells you breakfast the minute hand tells you within that hour what's the issue that's within that hour what's the issue that's within that hour what's the issue that's really how you should look at darkness really how you should look at darkness really how you should look at darkness and the second issue the temperature and the second issue the temperature and the second issue the temperature variation it's a huge factor and if you variation it's a huge factor and if you variation it's a huge factor and if you you want to hammer this point home you want to hammer this point home you want to hammer this point home realize that this is the reason why realize that this is the reason why realize that this is the reason why melatonin works better when you're melatonin works better when you're melatonin works better when you're colder okay this is the reason why when colder okay this is the reason why when colder okay this is the reason why when you sleep at night okay that your you sleep at night okay that your you sleep at night okay that your hypothalamus has to drop four degrees hypothalamus has to drop four degrees hypothalamus has to drop four degrees usually see in around your hypothalamus usually see in around your hypothalamus usually see in around your hypothalamus so that you sleep better and see when I so that you sleep better and see when I so that you sleep better and see when I said that to you I could see in even in said that to you I could see in even in said that to you I could see in even in your face you're like oh I didn't your face you're like oh I didn't your face you're like oh I didn't realize that now you begin to understand realize that now you begin to understand realize that now you begin to understand why temperature is that important why temperature is that important why temperature is that important because because because it augments the Circadian mechanism that it augments the Circadian mechanism that it augments the Circadian mechanism that ties to autophagy apodosis that actually

51:00ties to autophagy apodosis that actually ties to autophagy apodosis that actually keeps you healthy at night so if you keeps you healthy at night so if you keeps you healthy at night so if you can't sleep like say if you're the guy can't sleep like say if you're the guy can't sleep like say if you're the guy that goes out to the pub all the time that goes out to the pub all the time that goes out to the pub all the time and you have type two diabetes and and you have type two diabetes and and you have type two diabetes and you're drinking beer at night and around you're drinking beer at night and around you're drinking beer at night and around light you never can drop your melatonin light you never can drop your melatonin light you never can drop your melatonin or your temperature low enough to make or your temperature low enough to make or your temperature low enough to make the Melatonin come out so this is the the Melatonin come out so this is the the Melatonin come out so this is the reason why you have sleep apne and this reason why you have sleep apne and this reason why you have sleep apne and this is the reason why you keep getting is the reason why you keep getting is the reason why you keep getting fatter and fatter and fatter because you fatter and fatter and fatter because you fatter and fatter and fatter because you are Breaking All the Rules like your are Breaking All the Rules like your are Breaking All the Rules like your second hand never works your minute hand second hand never works your minute hand second hand never works your minute hand is always slow and your hour hand is way is always slow and your hour hand is way is always slow and your hour hand is way off then you begin to go okay now I'm off then you begin to go okay now I'm off then you begin to go okay now I'm starting to see the world as Jack does starting to see the world as Jack does starting to see the world as Jack does it's a giant metronome every single it's a giant metronome every single it's a giant metronome every single mitochondrial disease is a metronome mitochondrial disease is a metronome mitochondrial disease is a metronome that's tied to light dark and that's tied to light dark and that's tied to light dark and temperature and when you're able to put temperature and when you're able to put temperature and when you're able to put all those biochemicals together that you all those biochemicals together that you all those biochemicals together that you do know and you put them in this do know and you put them in this do know and you put them in this framework you begin to go okay this is framework you begin to go okay this is framework you begin to go okay this is beginning to make a lot more sense to me beginning to make a lot more sense to me you're going to be a way smarter patient you're going to be a way smarter patient you're going to be a way smarter patient than the doctors that you go to see and

52:00than the doctors that you go to see and than the doctors that you go to see and ultimately isn't that my goal when I do ultimately isn't that my goal when I do ultimately isn't that my goal when I do podcasts with guys like you the answer podcasts with guys like you the answer podcasts with guys like you the answer is yes because I think a lot of times is yes because I think a lot of times is yes because I think a lot of times when I do podcasts people when I do podcasts people when I do podcasts people misunderstand a lot of the things I say misunderstand a lot of the things I say misunderstand a lot of the things I say like you almost went down that path like you almost went down that path like you almost went down that path before I pulled you by the neck no you before I pulled you by the neck no you before I pulled you by the neck no you don't have to go live at a low latitude don't have to go live at a low latitude don't have to go live at a low latitude to be healthy you can live at a high to be healthy you can live at a high to be healthy you can live at a high latitude you can be healthy I just did a latitude you can be healthy I just did a latitude you can be healthy I just did a podcast with two Viking guys that got podcast with two Viking guys that got podcast with two Viking guys that got released I don't know about two weeks released I don't know about two weeks released I don't know about two weeks ago I told them the same thing I'm ago I told them the same thing I'm ago I told them the same thing I'm telling you that no you can do really telling you that no you can do really telling you that no you can do really well but the funny thing is when I talk well but the funny thing is when I talk well but the funny thing is when I talk to them and I'm talking to you I don't to them and I'm talking to you I don't to them and I'm talking to you I don't think they realize the Nuance think they realize the Nuance think they realize the Nuance between timing and that's the reason I between timing and that's the reason I between timing and that's the reason I decided to really get into the decided to really get into the decided to really get into the discussion with you about the difference discussion with you about the difference discussion with you about the difference between Newtonian physics and between Newtonian physics and between Newtonian physics and einsteinian physics the fact that when einsteinian physics the fact that when einsteinian physics the fact that when time is absolute cause and effect is time is absolute cause and effect is time is absolute cause and effect is real but when time has been proven to be

53:00real but when time has been proven to be real but when time has been proven to be relative there is no cause and effect relative there is no cause and effect relative there is no cause and effect everything's based on probability that everything's based on probability that everything's based on probability that means correlation matters more than means correlation matters more than means correlation matters more than causation there is no cause to disease causation there is no cause to disease causation there is no cause to disease it's all a correlative event everything it's all a correlative event everything it's all a correlative event everything is based on probability and that that is is based on probability and that that is is based on probability and that that is so offensive Owen to the people uh that so offensive Owen to the people uh that so offensive Owen to the people uh that you know regulate centralized you know regulate centralized you know regulate centralized paradigms that you need to really paradigms that you need to really paradigms that you need to really understand that and fundamentally that's understand that and fundamentally that's understand that and fundamentally that's I think what makes Uncle Jack I think what makes Uncle Jack I think what makes Uncle Jack so a tough swallow for a lot of people so a tough swallow for a lot of people so a tough swallow for a lot of people but I think when you hear it laid out but I think when you hear it laid out but I think when you hear it laid out like this you begin to realize this guy like this you begin to realize this guy like this you begin to realize this guy isn't crazy at all he's thought actually isn't crazy at all he's thought actually isn't crazy at all he's thought actually thought about it very very deeply and he thought about it very very deeply and he thought about it very very deeply and he can explain it you know in a podcast so can explain it you know in a podcast so can explain it you know in a podcast so you get it and you know I think the you get it and you know I think the you get it and you know I think the reason I've spent a lot of time with the reason I've spent a lot of time with the reason I've spent a lot of time with the two Viking guys and you on this is two Viking guys and you on this is two Viking guys and you on this is because you are the high latitude guys because you are the high latitude guys because you are the high latitude guys you have to remember something we have

54:00you have to remember something we have you have to remember something we have something in common I'm a high latitude something in common I'm a high latitude something in common I'm a high latitude guy dude I come from County Cork I'm guy dude I come from County Cork I'm guy dude I come from County Cork I'm 59th latitude bro so if you don't think 59th latitude bro so if you don't think 59th latitude bro so if you don't think that this was important in the formation that this was important in the formation that this was important in the formation of me figuring this out 20 years ago of me figuring this out 20 years ago of me figuring this out 20 years ago you're out of your mind I I absolutely you're out of your mind I I absolutely you're out of your mind I I absolutely got it that's the reason why I started got it that's the reason why I started got it that's the reason why I started first with the leptin prescription then first with the leptin prescription then first with the leptin prescription then I went to the cold thermogenesis I went to the cold thermogenesis I went to the cold thermogenesis protocol because you're probably now protocol because you're probably now protocol because you're probably now starting to realize now I get why Jack starting to realize now I get why Jack starting to realize now I get why Jack did what he did he fixed his hour and did what he did he fixed his hour and did what he did he fixed his hour and his minute hand then he went to the his minute hand then he went to the his minute hand then he went to the second hand the cold part then he put it second hand the cold part then he put it second hand the cold part then he put it all together and you can begin to see all together and you can begin to see all together and you can begin to see how this was kind of like a a Ford how this was kind of like a a Ford how this was kind of like a a Ford factory to make an factory to make an factory to make an F-150 I was coming up with the F-150 I was coming up with the F-150 I was coming up with the ideas and then correlated them back to ideas and then correlated them back to ideas and then correlated them back to the physics of organisms But ultimately the physics of organisms But ultimately the physics of organisms But ultimately the physics of organisms funneled all the physics of organisms funneled all the physics of organisms funneled all the way back to our friend Einstein and the way back to our friend Einstein and the way back to our friend Einstein and Newton and that's when biology began to

55:00Newton and that's when biology began to Newton and that's when biology began to make a lot of sense to make a lot of sense to make a lot of sense to me yeah I I want to be mindful of your me yeah I I want to be mindful of your me yeah I I want to be mindful of your time do you need to step off soon or you time do you need to step off soon or you time do you need to step off soon or you could I'm I'm on trauma call so I'm good could I'm I'm on trauma call so I'm good could I'm I'm on trauma call so I'm good for now but I will tell you something for now but I will tell you something for now but I will tell you something cool is going on right now behind me the cool is going on right now behind me the cool is going on right now behind me the eclipse is oh going so right now where eclipse is oh going so right now where eclipse is oh going so right now where I'm at let me look at the time yeah the I'm at let me look at the time yeah the I'm at let me look at the time yeah the eclipse right now is happening at the eclipse right now is happening at the eclipse right now is happening at the 28th latitude so half the Sun is covered 28th latitude so half the Sun is covered 28th latitude so half the Sun is covered by the by the by the moon so what I'd like to do is I want to moon so what I'd like to do is I want to moon so what I'd like to do is I want to look out see if I can see it yeah go for it it it it is the the sun if you look up in the sky is the the sun if you look up in the sky is the the sun if you look up in the sky looks like a half a sun it's pretty cool looks like a half a sun it's pretty cool looks like a half a sun it's pretty cool and you know the reason I I noticed that and you know the reason I I noticed that and you know the reason I I noticed that is because it got dark here we have is because it got dark here we have is because it got dark here we have about a 50% Eclipse because we're off about a 50% Eclipse because we're off about a 50% Eclipse because we're off but I looked at your your window right but I looked at your your window right but I looked at your your window right now and you don't have that because now and you don't have that because now and you don't have that because you're far away where this eclipse is you're far away where this eclipse is you're far away where this eclipse is happening right now on October 14th is

56:00happening right now on October 14th is happening right now on October 14th is uh going through I believe it's going uh going through I believe it's going uh going through I believe it's going through San Salvador but it's going through San Salvador but it's going through San Salvador but it's going through I think Texas El Paso and west through I think Texas El Paso and west through I think Texas El Paso and west of me uh I'm right now at the 28th of me uh I'm right now at the 28th of me uh I'm right now at the 28th latitude um Louisiana but it's pretty latitude um Louisiana but it's pretty latitude um Louisiana but it's pretty it's pretty cool I just noticed when I it's pretty cool I just noticed when I it's pretty cool I just noticed when I was talking to you that I saw the Sun was talking to you that I saw the Sun was talking to you that I saw the Sun Drop you know the power and it'll only Drop you know the power and it'll only Drop you know the power and it'll only stay like this for probably a couple stay like this for probably a couple stay like this for probably a couple minutes but this the first time I think minutes but this the first time I think minutes but this the first time I think I've ever done a podcast during an I've ever done a podcast during an I've ever done a podcast during an eclipse that's that's cool yeah okay you eclipse that's that's cool yeah okay you eclipse that's that's cool yeah okay you said that light is the the hour hand so said that light is the the hour hand so said that light is the the hour hand so essentially like the most important one essentially like the most important one essentially like the most important one how do what with where I'm at UK when we how do what with where I'm at UK when we how do what with where I'm at UK when we get to the depths of winter you can get get to the depths of winter you can get get to the depths of winter you can get to like less than eight hours of to like less than eight hours of to like less than eight hours of daylight and a lot of people obviously daylight and a lot of people obviously daylight and a lot of people obviously don't want to be in bed 16 hours a day don't want to be in bed 16 hours a day don't want to be in bed 16 hours a day so how do we set up our light so how do we set up our light so how do we set up our light environment the you can that's the environment the you can that's the environment the you can that's the problem the best you can has to be problem the best you can has to be problem the best you can has to be better than give some of these right

57:00better than give some of these right better than give some of these right well you have to use that but I mean I well you have to use that but I mean I well you have to use that but I mean I would tell you the other big issues you would tell you the other big issues you would tell you the other big issues you got to get up with the the solar cycle got to get up with the the solar cycle got to get up with the the solar cycle so guess what that means it means so guess what that means it means so guess what that means it means shifting your whole life and I shifting your whole life and I shifting your whole life and I understand that in the modern world you understand that in the modern world you understand that in the modern world you know your job and things like that may know your job and things like that may know your job and things like that may not be set up for that but you have to not be set up for that but you have to not be set up for that but you have to do as good a job as you can so the do as good a job as you can so the do as good a job as you can so the single most important thing for a single most important thing for a single most important thing for a metronome who understands circadium ly metronome who understands circadium ly metronome who understands circadium ly is you have to eat and live with that is you have to eat and live with that is you have to eat and live with that Sunrise you must see the sunrise every Sunrise you must see the sunrise every Sunrise you must see the sunrise every day then the flip side of that is when day then the flip side of that is when day then the flip side of that is when the sun sets try to see the sunet but the sun sets try to see the sunet but the sun sets try to see the sunet but make sure that no artificial light at make sure that no artificial light at make sure that no artificial light at night after that so that's where those night after that so that's where those night after that so that's where those glasses become important but I'm still glasses become important but I'm still glasses become important but I'm still going to tell you do I think seeing the going to tell you do I think seeing the going to tell you do I think seeing the sunrise for high sunrise for high sunrise for high latitude livers are extremely important latitude livers are extremely important latitude livers are extremely important because you you because you you because you you realize that the sunrise as you get realize that the sunrise as you get realize that the sunrise as you get closer to December 31st your latitude is closer to December 31st your latitude is closer to December 31st your latitude is getting later and later in the day so it

58:00getting later and later in the day so it getting later and later in the day so it could be 8:00 in the morning but the sun could be 8:00 in the morning but the sun could be 8:00 in the morning but the sun set on December you know 3 or 21st could set on December you know 3 or 21st could set on December you know 3 or 21st could be at 3:30 you know depending on where be at 3:30 you know depending on where be at 3:30 you know depending on where you are in you know uh Scandinavia or you are in you know uh Scandinavia or you are in you know uh Scandinavia or the UK um so you have to be mindful of the UK um so you have to be mindful of the UK um so you have to be mindful of that and then the flip side of that is that and then the flip side of that is that and then the flip side of that is when I was up at the high latitudes you when I was up at the high latitudes you when I was up at the high latitudes you know several months ago I did a podcast know several months ago I did a podcast know several months ago I did a podcast with a guy from Uruguay at 11:30 at with a guy from Uruguay at 11:30 at with a guy from Uruguay at 11:30 at night when the sun was still out I was night when the sun was still out I was night when the sun was still out I was at the 69th latitude it was kind of at the 69th latitude it was kind of at the 69th latitude it was kind of crazy but do you have to be mindful of crazy but do you have to be mindful of crazy but do you have to be mindful of that when you're at high latitude that that when you're at high latitude that that when you're at high latitude that you need more sun and Owen I'm going to you need more sun and Owen I'm going to you need more sun and Owen I'm going to tell you something I don't think a lot tell you something I don't think a lot tell you something I don't think a lot of people at high latitudes really of people at high latitudes really of people at high latitudes really understand um and when I say it it's understand um and when I say it it's understand um and when I say it it's going to take you a while to realize it going to take you a while to realize it going to take you a while to realize it and and and researching do you realize that if you researching do you realize that if you researching do you realize that if you live at the equator or you live at the live at the equator or you live at the live at the equator or you live at the 50th or 60th l attitude that the amount 50th or 60th l attitude that the amount 50th or 60th l attitude that the amount of sunlight you get is exactly the same of sunlight you get is exactly the same of sunlight you get is exactly the same the difference is the time is shifted so

59:00the difference is the time is shifted so the difference is the time is shifted so let me explain to you what I mean let me explain to you what I mean let me explain to you what I mean there's times in Alaska that the Sun there's times in Alaska that the Sun there's times in Alaska that the Sun stays out all year round that makes up stays out all year round that makes up stays out all year round that makes up for the days that it's hardly out at all for the days that it's hardly out at all for the days that it's hardly out at all but if you measured the time of each day but if you measured the time of each day but if you measured the time of each day the amount of sunlight that would be the amount of sunlight that would be the amount of sunlight that would be present is exactly the same as it would present is exactly the same as it would present is exactly the same as it would be on the equator in a whole year right be on the equator in a whole year right be on the equator in a whole year right yeah you got it okay the problem is it's yeah you got it okay the problem is it's yeah you got it okay the problem is it's at the wrong time of the day based on at the wrong time of the day based on at the wrong time of the day based on how our clocks work this is the reason how our clocks work this is the reason how our clocks work this is the reason why people at high latitudes get things why people at high latitudes get things why people at high latitudes get things like mental us and like mental us and like mental us and sad because of this reason and it's also sad because of this reason and it's also sad because of this reason and it's also the reason why I told you ear course so the reason why I told you ear course so the reason why I told you ear course so what you need to realize is that the what you need to realize is that the what you need to realize is that the real problem of high latitude living is real problem of high latitude living is real problem of high latitude living is light stability meaning that you need to light stability meaning that you need to light stability meaning that you need to have a firm part of your day where have a firm part of your day where have a firm part of your day where you're really in the light well that's you're really in the light well that's you're really in the light well that's really difficult when you live at the UK really difficult when you live at the UK really difficult when you live at the UK and your job requires you to be at work and your job requires you to be at work and your job requires you to be at work from say 8 to 4: well that's the whole

1:00from say 8 to 4: well that's the whole from say 8 to 4: well that's the whole time the sun is out the question is you time the sun is out the question is you time the sun is out the question is you got to say to yourself when did I see got to say to yourself when did I see got to say to yourself when did I see the sun the answer is probably not so the sun the answer is probably not so the sun the answer is probably not so the number one thing I think people that the number one thing I think people that the number one thing I think people that live at high latitude have to do is live at high latitude have to do is live at high latitude have to do is figure out how to get outside whether figure out how to get outside whether figure out how to get outside whether it's cloudy or not because you're still it's cloudy or not because you're still it's cloudy or not because you're still getting the benefit of the sun even then getting the benefit of the sun even then getting the benefit of the sun even then when it's cloudy you're still getting when it's cloudy you're still getting when it's cloudy you're still getting the red light you're still being able to the red light you're still being able to the red light you're still being able to tell the color temperature the clock tell the color temperature the clock tell the color temperature the clock mechanis me still works doesn't change mechanis me still works doesn't change mechanis me still works doesn't change at all um the temperature also plays a at all um the temperature also plays a at all um the temperature also plays a role there as well so you being inside role there as well so you being inside role there as well so you being inside is a huge problem too in the winter time is a huge problem too in the winter time is a huge problem too in the winter time so you need to understand that issue and so you need to understand that issue and so you need to understand that issue and I think when you parse it out then you I think when you parse it out then you I think when you parse it out then you begin to understand why Uncle Jack's not begin to understand why Uncle Jack's not begin to understand why Uncle Jack's not a big fan of laying him at a high a big fan of laying him at a high a big fan of laying him at a high latitude because your job is really latitude because your job is really latitude because your job is really really difficult to get right at a high really difficult to get right at a high really difficult to get right at a high latitude this is the reason why living latitude this is the reason why living latitude this is the reason why living at a lower latitude gives you more at a lower latitude gives you more at a lower latitude gives you more margin of safety why because we at the margin of safety why because we at the margin of safety why because we at the Zer degree latitude remember it's 12

1:01Zer degree latitude remember it's 12 Zer degree latitude remember it's 12 hours of sunlight every single day it hours of sunlight every single day it hours of sunlight every single day it doesn't vary at all like when um you doesn't vary at all like when um you doesn't vary at all like when um you talk about the 13th latitude of the 20 talk about the 13th latitude of the 20 talk about the 13th latitude of the 20 or the 20th latitude because 20th or the 20th latitude because 20th or the 20th latitude because 20th latitude is Cancun 13 is El Salvador latitude is Cancun 13 is El Salvador latitude is Cancun 13 is El Salvador I'll give you an example because I was I'll give you an example because I was I'll give you an example because I was just an El Salvador uh last week just an El Salvador uh last week just an El Salvador uh last week [Music] [Music] [Music] um there's only about a 30 to 35 minute um there's only about a 30 to 35 minute um there's only about a 30 to 35 minute variation at the 13th latitude even at variation at the 13th latitude even at variation at the 13th latitude even at this time of year so you'll find that this time of year so you'll find that this time of year so you'll find that the sun sets almost every day at 6:30 it the sun sets almost every day at 6:30 it the sun sets almost every day at 6:30 it rises every day right around 6:30 so rises every day right around 6:30 so rises every day right around 6:30 so you're kind of like okay well that's how you're kind of like okay well that's how you're kind of like okay well that's how my clock is set up that's how my day is my clock is set up that's how my day is my clock is set up that's how my day is set up that's not true for a guy like set up that's not true for a guy like set up that's not true for a guy like you the the sun uh rise and sunset you the the sun uh rise and sunset you the the sun uh rise and sunset varies tremendously from September varies tremendously from September varies tremendously from September through December and also from December through December and also from December through December and also from December through April uh and the problem is you through April uh and the problem is you through April uh and the problem is you have to retool your life to marry to have to retool your life to marry to have to retool your life to marry to that and that's not an easy

1:02that and that's not an easy that and that's not an easy task okay yeah since learning about your task okay yeah since learning about your task okay yeah since learning about your work I've got there is a window open work I've got there is a window open work I've got there is a window open here so it's actually colder than it here so it's actually colder than it here so it's actually colder than it looks and I have a sunlight coming looks and I have a sunlight coming looks and I have a sunlight coming through in the morning so it's quite through in the morning so it's quite through in the morning so it's quite cool actually um cool actually um cool actually um okay so this's less margin of okay so this's less margin of okay so this's less margin of safety okay so that's that's for the safety okay so that's that's for the safety okay so that's that's for the winter and then in the summer it's so so winter and then in the summer it's so so winter and then in the summer it's so so see as much sun as possible you can and see as much sun as possible you can and see as much sun as possible you can and wi to yeah because remember in the wi to yeah because remember in the wi to yeah because remember in the summertime there's like certain times in summertime there's like certain times in summertime there's like certain times in London where the sun doesn't set till 10 London where the sun doesn't set till 10 London where the sun doesn't set till 10 11 o' so if you're out great but 11 o' so if you're out great but 11 o' so if you're out great but remember the sunrise sometimes like the remember the sunrise sometimes like the remember the sunrise sometimes like the last time I can last time I can last time I can remember when I was in Europe I think I remember when I was in Europe I think I remember when I was in Europe I think I was at the 60th latitude and I'm talking was at the 60th latitude and I'm talking was at the 60th latitude and I'm talking about when I was not didn't not this about when I was not didn't not this about when I was not didn't not this past trip past trip past trip um I think I was in Poland I think the um I think I was in Poland I think the um I think I was in Poland I think the sun rose on July 4th and at 3:45 a.m. I sun rose on July 4th and at 3:45 a.m. I sun rose on July 4th and at 3:45 a.m. I was the only guy that was awake all my was the only guy that was awake all my

1:03was the only guy that was awake all my other European friends were still asleep other European friends were still asleep other European friends were still asleep who were from there and yet when they who were from there and yet when they who were from there and yet when they came out an hour later like Jack you're came out an hour later like Jack you're came out an hour later like Jack you're here and here's the funny part it was 37 here and here's the funny part it was 37 here and here's the funny part it was 37 Fair night which for you guys is Fair night which for you guys is Fair night which for you guys is probably like two or three degrees I was probably like two or three degrees I was probably like two or three degrees I was in a t-shirt and shorts in 40 mph winds in a t-shirt and shorts in 40 mph winds in a t-shirt and shorts in 40 mph winds on the 4th of July at the 60th latitude on the 4th of July at the 60th latitude on the 4th of July at the 60th latitude and they all looked at at me and I and they all looked at at me and I and they all looked at at me and I looked at them and I said why am I out looked at them and I said why am I out looked at them and I said why am I out here I said you wanted me to come visit here I said you wanted me to come visit here I said you wanted me to come visit you this is what I have to do when I you this is what I have to do when I you this is what I have to do when I come come come visit wow okay so you do still want to visit wow okay so you do still want to visit wow okay so you do still want to be even at high last insane I'm coming be even at high last insane I'm coming be even at high last insane I'm coming to London I'm coming to London to London I'm coming to London to London I'm coming to London literally five days I'm not excited literally five days I'm not excited literally five days I'm not excited about it okay but do I know that I'm about it okay but do I know that I'm about it okay but do I know that I'm gonna have to change my template yep and gonna have to change my template yep and gonna have to change my template yep and am I doing something I'm I'm G to be am I doing something I'm I'm G to be am I doing something I'm I'm G to be living my craziest month of my

1:04living my craziest month of my living my craziest month of my life and I'm G to tell you it's already life and I'm G to tell you it's already life and I'm G to tell you it's already started because I'm on trauma call now started because I'm on trauma call now started because I'm on trauma call now but the things that I'm GNA do in the but the things that I'm GNA do in the but the things that I'm GNA do in the next month I have never done in my life next month I have never done in my life next month I have never done in my life and they are going to be the biggest and they are going to be the biggest and they are going to be the biggest circadian disruptors that you can circadian disruptors that you can circadian disruptors that you can imagine and have I had to think about imagine and have I had to think about imagine and have I had to think about how I'm going to pull this how I'm going to pull this how I'm going to pull this off so that I don't harm off so that I don't harm off so that I don't harm myself thinking about all the things myself thinking about all the things myself thinking about all the things that I told you why why are we having that I told you why why are we having that I told you why why are we having this discussion because I have been this discussion because I have been this discussion because I have been planning this year because I've done planning this year because I've done planning this year because I've done some very dramatic things I I went to some very dramatic things I I went to some very dramatic things I I went to the 69th latitude in the summer okay now the 69th latitude in the summer okay now the 69th latitude in the summer okay now I'm going to the 60th I'm going to the 60th I'm going to the 60th latitude I wouldn't say in the winter latitude I wouldn't say in the winter latitude I wouldn't say in the winter time but pretty damn close it's already time but pretty damn close it's already time but pretty damn close it's already past the automnal Equinox this is not past the automnal Equinox this is not past the automnal Equinox this is not something I normally do are there

1:05something I normally do are there something I normally do are there reasons on doing this yeah you might reasons on doing this yeah you might reasons on doing this yeah you might hear about that somewhere down the road hear about that somewhere down the road hear about that somewhere down the road but the reason I'm having the discussion but the reason I'm having the discussion but the reason I'm having the discussion I'm having with you I want you to I'm having with you I want you to I'm having with you I want you to understand that I believe you can still understand that I believe you can still understand that I believe you can still win doing some of the most extreme win doing some of the most extreme win doing some of the most extreme things in the world but you have to do things in the world but you have to do things in the world but you have to do things that nobody else would consider things that nobody else would consider things that nobody else would consider doing MH and to do that that's how you doing MH and to do that that's how you doing MH and to do that that's how you avoid the FDA the NHS the avoid the FDA the NHS the avoid the FDA the NHS the CDC that is the story of being a Black CDC that is the story of being a Black CDC that is the story of being a Black Swan mitochondria to understand truly Swan mitochondria to understand truly Swan mitochondria to understand truly how we are creatures of light and how we are creatures of light and how we are creatures of light and temperature um I temperature um I temperature um I think that probably is the most think that probably is the most think that probably is the most important story to get through to people important story to get through to people important story to get through to people right now you know in the modern world right now you know in the modern world right now you know in the modern world why why because because this this why why because because this this why why because because this this decentralized medicine idea is so decentralized medicine idea is so decentralized medicine idea is so radically different than what you get

1:06radically different than what you get radically different than what you get from the centralized from the centralized from the centralized paradig and um I want people especially paradig and um I want people especially paradig and um I want people especially young people like you to understand that young people like you to understand that young people like you to understand that I still think you can win I think you I still think you can win I think you I still think you can win I think you can be optimal even when the environment can be optimal even when the environment can be optimal even when the environment is not set up perfectly for you but it is not set up perfectly for you but it is not set up perfectly for you but it means that I need you to understand that means that I need you to understand that means that I need you to understand that you have to do certain you have to do certain you have to do certain things that are also would be considered things that are also would be considered things that are also would be considered crazy to your family crazy to your family crazy to your family and you don't worry if you're crazy and you don't worry if you're crazy because you know you're right because because you know you're right because because you know you're right because you know the science of what you and I you know the science of what you and I you know the science of what you and I talked about an hour ago you understand talked about an hour ago you understand talked about an hour ago you understand finally For the First Time of Your finally For the First Time of Your finally For the First Time of Your Life why Newtonian physics and Life why Newtonian physics and Life why Newtonian physics and einsteinian physics matter to circadian einsteinian physics matter to circadian einsteinian physics matter to circadian biology and why temperature biology and why temperature biology and why temperature matters to why time is relative and when matters to why time is relative and when matters to why time is relative and when you begin to put all this together and you begin to put all this together and you begin to put all this together and you think about the things that we've you think about the things that we've you think about the things that we've talked about talked about talked about you're a far smarter human silly talking you're a far smarter human silly talking you're a far smarter human silly talking monkey than you were than an hour before

1:07monkey than you were than an hour before monkey than you were than an hour before listening to this podcast that's all I listening to this podcast that's all I listening to this podcast that's all I care about I I'm looking to upgrade my care about I I'm looking to upgrade my care about I I'm looking to upgrade my audience 1% every day okay so just so like I'm clear cuz day okay so just so like I'm clear cuz say someone's like a very high latitude say someone's like a very high latitude say someone's like a very high latitude like 60 or whatever they should even in like 60 or whatever they should even in like 60 or whatever they should even in summer they should be trying to see the summer they should be trying to see the summer they should be trying to see the sunrise and the sunset absolutely if sunrise and the sunset absolutely if sunrise and the sunset absolutely if they don't guess what they're going to they don't guess what they're going to they don't guess what they're going to pay a toll okay because I know some pay a toll okay because I know some pay a toll okay because I know some places not not a fun thing to think places not not a fun thing to think places not not a fun thing to think about is it some places I know it can get to like it some places I know it can get to like four hours of Darkness or something so four hours of Darkness or something so four hours of Darkness or something so yeah like I can tell you when I Fourth yeah like I can tell you when I Fourth yeah like I can tell you when I Fourth of July I specifically remember I was at of July I specifically remember I was at of July I specifically remember I was at the top of Poland you know right on the the top of Poland you know right on the the top of Poland you know right on the North Sea it the sun rose at 3:45 am and North Sea it the sun rose at 3:45 am and North Sea it the sun rose at 3:45 am and I was out in it it didn't set until I was out in it it didn't set until I was out in it it didn't set until 11:15 and I was out in 11:15 and I was out in 11:15 and I was out in it but do would you not want to be

1:08it but do would you not want to be it but do would you not want to be sleeping more is that a stupid question sleeping more is that a stupid question sleeping more is that a stupid question no it's not a stupid question it's no it's not a stupid question it's no it's not a stupid question it's actually question you should ask actually question you should ask actually question you should ask yourself so one of the things that I did yourself so one of the things that I did yourself so one of the things that I did when I was at Poland at that level from when I was at Poland at that level from when I was at Poland at that level from about uh 700 p.m. to 11 about uh 700 p.m. to 11 about uh 700 p.m. to 11 11:15 uh we convinced the hotel that we 11:15 uh we convinced the hotel that we 11:15 uh we convinced the hotel that we staining to let us change all the light staining to let us change all the light staining to let us change all the light bulbs to red bulbs to red bulbs to red light and that's what we did we actually light and that's what we did we actually light and that's what we did we actually had red light on what else did we do had red light on what else did we do had red light on what else did we do when we were outside with you know the when we were outside with you know the when we were outside with you know the Europeans that wanted to meet and talk Europeans that wanted to meet and talk Europeans that wanted to meet and talk with me we had fire on Big Sticks they with me we had fire on Big Sticks they with me we had fire on Big Sticks they put these huge Embers in the ground and put these huge Embers in the ground and put these huge Embers in the ground and made them like candles kind of like you made them like candles kind of like you made them like candles kind of like you would see like at Viking time and we did would see like at Viking time and we did would see like at Viking time and we did that now is that something that Uncle that now is that something that Uncle that now is that something that Uncle Jack would normally do at the 13th Jack would normally do at the 13th Jack would normally do at the 13th latitude or the 28th to the answer is no latitude or the 28th to the answer is no latitude or the 28th to the answer is no some people know that I'm I'm a little some people know that I'm I'm a little some people know that I'm I'm a little bit of a pyromaniac and I do like fire I

1:09bit of a pyromaniac and I do like fire I bit of a pyromaniac and I do like fire I will use fire in different places I also will use fire in different places I also will use fire in different places I also use candles but the one thing I don't use candles but the one thing I don't use candles but the one thing I don't use I don't use artificial light at use I don't use artificial light at use I don't use artificial light at all yeah there's something about fire I all yeah there's something about fire I all yeah there's something about fire I don't know I wonder if it's like cuz we don't know I wonder if it's like cuz we don't know I wonder if it's like cuz we evolved I think a decent amount of time evolved I think a decent amount of time evolved I think a decent amount of time with it the well if you if you listen to with it the well if you if you listen to with it the well if you if you listen to my recent podcast or read some of my my recent podcast or read some of my my recent podcast or read some of my patreon post you will actually find that patreon post you will actually find that patreon post you will actually find that fire was one of the things that sculpted fire was one of the things that sculpted fire was one of the things that sculpted Neanderthal to Homo Neanderthal to Homo Neanderthal to Homo sapiens uh it's actually the reason why sapiens uh it's actually the reason why sapiens uh it's actually the reason why Homo sapiens are a little bit more Homo sapiens are a little bit more Homo sapiens are a little bit more creative than the Andals in other creative than the Andals in other creative than the Andals in other words fire and living inside caves words fire and living inside caves words fire and living inside caves actually shrunk our brain and when you actually shrunk our brain and when you actually shrunk our brain and when you actually think about it from that actually think about it from that actually think about it from that standpoint you start to look at fire a standpoint you start to look at fire a standpoint you start to look at fire a little bit differently fire also was the little bit differently fire also was the little bit differently fire also was the first first first first version of artificial light at first version of artificial light at first version of artificial light at night and it wasn't so beneficial for night and it wasn't so beneficial for night and it wasn't so beneficial for the

1:10the the neand ironically it created some very neand ironically it created some very neand ironically it created some very good effects in silly talking monkeys good effects in silly talking monkeys good effects in silly talking monkeys who are Homo sapiens why because we have who are Homo sapiens why because we have who are Homo sapiens why because we have 125 grams less brain tissue than them 125 grams less brain tissue than them 125 grams less brain tissue than them and our eyes are smaller but remember we and our eyes are smaller but remember we and our eyes are smaller but remember we came from lower latitudes than came from lower latitudes than came from lower latitudes than neanderthals were they they really neanderthals were they they really neanderthals were they they really stopped right at the latitudes that stopped right at the latitudes that stopped right at the latitudes that you're at now you're you don't find very you're at now you're you don't find very you're at now you're you don't find very many Neal skeletons above the 50th 55th many Neal skeletons above the 50th 55th many Neal skeletons above the 50th 55th latitude and there's a reason for that latitude and there's a reason for that latitude and there's a reason for that because their Ferrari engines and their because their Ferrari engines and their because their Ferrari engines and their head precluded them from living there head precluded them from living there head precluded them from living there and that tells you a a big and that tells you a a big and that tells you a a big story story story about Homo sapiens it tells you the about Homo sapiens it tells you the about Homo sapiens it tells you the reason why if you break the reason why if you break the reason why if you break the rules and you live at a high latitude rules and you live at a high latitude rules and you live at a high latitude why people in the UK will get why people in the UK will get why people in the UK will get more neurod degeneration more cerebral more neurod degeneration more cerebral more neurod degeneration more cerebral atrophy your brain strengths even more atrophy your brain strengths even more atrophy your brain strengths even more and this should be something that the

1:11and this should be something that the and this should be something that the NHS expects but they don't they don't NHS expects but they don't they don't NHS expects but they don't they don't see the story that I'm painting for see the story that I'm painting for see the story that I'm painting for you right there um and it's a very very you right there um and it's a very very you right there um and it's a very very interesting story um but it's playing interesting story um but it's playing interesting story um but it's playing out everywhere at high latitudes it's out everywhere at high latitudes it's out everywhere at high latitudes it's really playing out in the United States really playing out in the United States really playing out in the United States why because the number one cause of why because the number one cause of why because the number one cause of death in the United States everybody death in the United States everybody death in the United States everybody still wants to call it heart disease no still wants to call it heart disease no still wants to call it heart disease no one wants to tell you the truth but it's one wants to tell you the truth but it's one wants to tell you the truth but it's really Alzheimer's and Parkinson's it's really Alzheimer's and Parkinson's it's really Alzheimer's and Parkinson's it's neurod degeneration and the reason for neurod degeneration and the reason for neurod degeneration and the reason for that has a lot to do with many of the that has a lot to do with many of the that has a lot to do with many of the things that we've talked about in this things that we've talked about in this things that we've talked about in this podcast why um the United podcast why um the United podcast why um the United States has made a States has made a States has made a decision uh in the way which it runs its decision uh in the way which it runs its decision uh in the way which it runs its economy um to use a lot more non-native economy um to use a lot more non-native economy um to use a lot more non-native MF for its population and our population MF for its population and our population MF for its population and our population centers are very different than what you centers are very different than what you centers are very different than what you see in the UK and Europe remember Europe

1:12see in the UK and Europe remember Europe see in the UK and Europe remember Europe is a much smaller continent people are is a much smaller continent people are is a much smaller continent people are in cities but they're closer the United in cities but they're closer the United in cities but they're closer the United States is a huge country and our States is a huge country and our States is a huge country and our population densities tend to be in population densities tend to be in population densities tend to be in cities that are sitting you know right cities that are sitting you know right cities that are sitting you know right around massive amounts of EMF made by around massive amounts of EMF made by around massive amounts of EMF made by you know Facebook Google uh you know Facebook Google uh you know Facebook Google uh AT&T and this creates a certain problem AT&T and this creates a certain problem AT&T and this creates a certain problem and remember most people in the United and remember most people in the United and remember most people in the United States where are they from my States where are they from my States where are they from my friend we're Brits we're Brits that got friend we're Brits we're Brits that got friend we're Brits we're Brits that got fed up with the King right so fed up with the King right so fed up with the King right so that means we're all have the same Hypes that means we're all have the same Hypes that means we're all have the same Hypes as you guys so we have a very as you guys so we have a very as you guys so we have a very interesting set of circumstances here in interesting set of circumstances here in interesting set of circumstances here in the United States that you guys don't the United States that you guys don't the United States that you guys don't face you face it for different reasons face you face it for different reasons face you face it for different reasons than we do but our steep decline has a than we do but our steep decline has a than we do but our steep decline has a lot to do with where where we come from lot to do with where where we come from lot to do with where where we come from and the things that the decisions that and the things that the decisions that and the things that the decisions that we made around light that's the reason we made around light that's the reason we made around light that's the reason why the United States Health metrics

1:13why the United States Health metrics why the United States Health metrics looks so different than anywhere else looks so different than anywhere else looks so different than anywhere else but people don't realize that 250e but people don't realize that 250e but people don't realize that 250e change when we told King George to go change when we told King George to go change when we told King George to go himself um and where we became the himself um and where we became the himself um and where we became the superpower and then turned our agrarian superpower and then turned our agrarian superpower and then turned our agrarian economy into a technology economy into a technology economy into a technology economy uh has had huge implications for economy uh has had huge implications for economy uh has had huge implications for us us us M you talked a bit about like the NHS M you talked a bit about like the NHS M you talked a bit about like the NHS and like the FDA not understanding the and like the FDA not understanding the and like the FDA not understanding the story that you've laid out there do you story that you've laid out there do you story that you've laid out there do you think you've managed to get through to think you've managed to get through to think you've managed to get through to huberman enough that he'll like that huberman enough that he'll like that huberman enough that he'll like that he'll take all that stuff on board and he'll take all that stuff on board and he'll take all that stuff on board and like be able to make a change I think like be able to make a change I think like be able to make a change I think I've gotten through him but I think the I've gotten through him but I think the I've gotten through him but I think the real problem for uberman is remember who real problem for uberman is remember who real problem for uberman is remember who funds his lab Stanford who fund Stanford funds his lab Stanford who fund Stanford funds his lab Stanford who fund Stanford big big big farma uh don't think yman is stupid farma uh don't think yman is stupid farma uh don't think yman is stupid enough not to to realize what the enough not to to realize what the enough not to to realize what the collateral effects of that are um but at collateral effects of that are um but at collateral effects of that are um but at the same the same the same time um what do I teach people what what

1:14time um what do I teach people what what time um what do I teach people what what is decentralized medicine fundamentally is decentralized medicine fundamentally is decentralized medicine fundamentally about when you know you're right even if about when you know you're right even if about when you know you're right even if you have to stand alone you stand alone you have to stand alone you stand alone you have to stand alone you stand alone why do I do podcasts the way I do I I why do I do podcasts the way I do I I why do I do podcasts the way I do I I don't care if the Paradigm that I don't care if the Paradigm that I don't care if the Paradigm that I practice in is wrong my duty is to do no practice in is wrong my duty is to do no practice in is wrong my duty is to do no harm it's to come and tell you the truth harm it's to come and tell you the truth harm it's to come and tell you the truth the truth that I understand stand right the truth that I understand stand right the truth that I understand stand right now and lay it out for you and then you now and lay it out for you and then you now and lay it out for you and then you the audience you the podcasters you'll the audience you the podcasters you'll the audience you the podcasters you'll decide whether I'm about crazy or decide whether I'm about crazy or decide whether I'm about crazy or maybe I need to be listened to maybe maybe I need to be listened to maybe maybe I need to be listened to maybe maybe there's some wisdom in what I'm maybe there's some wisdom in what I'm maybe there's some wisdom in what I'm telling you maybe is this the reason why telling you maybe is this the reason why telling you maybe is this the reason why I can explain more things than your I can explain more things than your I can explain more things than your doctor can in the NHS about certain doctor can in the NHS about certain doctor can in the NHS about certain diseases they are impin it to fix see diseases they are impin it to fix see diseases they are impin it to fix see that's a that's a that's a decision for the public to make not for decision for the public to make not for decision for the public to make not for you to make the problem is the you to make the problem is the you to make the problem is the centralized Paradigm is the one that centralized Paradigm is the one that centralized Paradigm is the one that wants to make those decisions for the wants to make those decisions for the wants to make those decisions for the public now that's actually what the NHS

1:15public now that's actually what the NHS public now that's actually what the NHS does and I think that's fundamentally does and I think that's fundamentally does and I think that's fundamentally why the Paradigm is not good for people why the Paradigm is not good for people why the Paradigm is not good for people who live in the UK when you follow the who live in the UK when you follow the who live in the UK when you follow the NHS dict because they are still working NHS dict because they are still working NHS dict because they are still working on Newtonian time and when you realize on Newtonian time and when you realize on Newtonian time and when you realize that then you realize they're also that then you realize they're also that then you realize they're also making a mistake because every study making a mistake because every study making a mistake because every study that they use comes to the United States that they use comes to the United States that they use comes to the United States that's based on mammals that are studied that's based on mammals that are studied that's based on mammals that are studied where in a lab with blue light and where in a lab with blue light and where in a lab with blue light and non-native EMF around them you start non-native EMF around them you start non-native EMF around them you start going why do we believe this then going why do we believe this then going why do we believe this then you start thinking about the things you you start thinking about the things you you start thinking about the things you and I talked about in this podcast about and I talked about in this podcast about and I talked about in this podcast about the hour about the minute hand the the hour about the minute hand the the hour about the minute hand the second hand and how light and dark and second hand and how light and dark and second hand and how light and dark and temperature varies all this and then you temperature varies all this and then you temperature varies all this and then you think about all those little mice and think about all those little mice and think about all those little mice and rats and the humans that have been rats and the humans that have been rats and the humans that have been studied for the last 150 200 years and studied for the last 150 200 years and studied for the last 150 200 years and you're like man I'm starting to see a you're like man I'm starting to see a you're like man I'm starting to see a different side of science than I ever different side of science than I ever different side of science than I ever saw before and guess what that's why

1:16saw before and guess what that's why saw before and guess what that's why they say putting sunlight on things is they say putting sunlight on things is they say putting sunlight on things is the best disinfected because you the best disinfected because you the best disinfected because you actually get a little wiser you get a actually get a little wiser you get a actually get a little wiser you get a little smarter see it's not about you little smarter see it's not about you little smarter see it's not about you going to the gym and working out and going to the gym and working out and going to the gym and working out and getting big huge muscles it's about you getting big huge muscles it's about you getting big huge muscles it's about you working that brain out in your head working that brain out in your head working that brain out in your head making sure it doesn't shrink so that making sure it doesn't shrink so that making sure it doesn't shrink so that you're wiser than the idiots at the NHS you're wiser than the idiots at the NHS you're wiser than the idiots at the NHS the FDA uh that's the reason why the the FDA uh that's the reason why the the FDA uh that's the reason why the people in Sweden broke ranks with the people in Sweden broke ranks with the people in Sweden broke ranks with the rest of the people in EU and did coid rest of the people in EU and did coid rest of the people in EU and did coid different than everybody else you guys different than everybody else you guys different than everybody else you guys all made fun of them but now you got egg all made fun of them but now you got egg all made fun of them but now you got egg on your face turns out the sweds are on your face turns out the sweds are on your face turns out the sweds are right so guess what I'm hoping that the right so guess what I'm hoping that the right so guess what I'm hoping that the next next next time uh the dominant paradigms that are time uh the dominant paradigms that are time uh the dominant paradigms that are they're driving Health in the UK which they're driving Health in the UK which they're driving Health in the UK which are the world economic Forum the royal are the world economic Forum the royal are the world economic Forum the royal family all the idiots out there family all the idiots out there family all the idiots out there are trying to turn you back into feudal are trying to turn you back into feudal are trying to turn you back into feudal slaves you begin to realize that you slaves you begin to realize that you slaves you begin to realize that you have something in common with your

1:17have something in common with your have something in common with your Patriots uh in Sweden that you need to Patriots uh in Sweden that you need to Patriots uh in Sweden that you need to question question question everything and when you begin to everything and when you begin to everything and when you begin to question everything and you're told question everything and you're told question everything and you're told stupid things like yeah with Co you need stupid things like yeah with Co you need stupid things like yeah with Co you need to wear a mask and you need to go inside to wear a mask and you need to go inside to wear a mask and you need to go inside and you think about what Owen and I and you think about what Owen and I and you think about what Owen and I talked about about light and dark and talked about about light and dark and talked about about light and dark and temperature you start to go that's about temperature you start to go that's about temperature you start to go that's about the stupidest thing I've I've ever heard the stupidest thing I've I've ever heard the stupidest thing I've I've ever heard in my life and in my life and in my life and then you can sit down with your then you can sit down with your then you can sit down with your grandmother over tea and explain why grandmother over tea and explain why grandmother over tea and explain why Boris Johnson needed to be fired because Boris Johnson needed to be fired because Boris Johnson needed to be fired because he's the one that told you that he's the one that told you that he's the one that told you that lockdowns were a smart thing doesn't lockdowns were a smart thing doesn't lockdowns were a smart thing doesn't mean that the idiot you got in now is mean that the idiot you got in now is mean that the idiot you got in now is any better just like the idiot we have any better just like the idiot we have any better just like the idiot we have is no better the bottom line is remember is no better the bottom line is remember is no better the bottom line is remember your country and my country are built your country and my country are built your country and my country are built around the same idea it's about We the around the same idea it's about We the around the same idea it's about We the People people in the United States were People people in the United States were People people in the United States were a little bit more forceful I think we a little bit more forceful I think we a little bit more forceful I think we got the best British people if you want got the best British people if you want got the best British people if you want to know the truth why because we were

1:18to know the truth why because we were to know the truth why because we were the people that wouldn't take the the people that wouldn't take the the people that wouldn't take the from the king I think the same from the king I think the same from the king I think the same thing is happening right now in the UK I thing is happening right now in the UK I thing is happening right now in the UK I think there's people that are fed up think there's people that are fed up think there's people that are fed up with the NHS I think there's people fed with the NHS I think there's people fed with the NHS I think there's people fed up with King Charles to be quite Frank up with King Charles to be quite Frank up with King Charles to be quite Frank with you um but I think that those with you um but I think that those with you um but I think that those faction of people not only they in the faction of people not only they in the faction of people not only they in the United States to in Sweden they're in United States to in Sweden they're in United States to in Sweden they're in Africa they're in El Salvador they're Africa they're in El Salvador they're Africa they're in El Salvador they're really in El Salvador right now because really in El Salvador right now because really in El Salvador right now because they have a king or a leader or a they have a king or a leader or a they have a king or a leader or a president who's basically telling people president who's basically telling people president who's basically telling people freedom is what it's all about you freedom is what it's all about you freedom is what it's all about you should be able to make your own should be able to make your own should be able to make your own decisions about your own health care you decisions about your own health care you decisions about your own health care you don't need to listen to your employer don't need to listen to your employer don't need to listen to your employer you don't need to listen to a doctor you you don't need to listen to a doctor you you don't need to listen to a doctor you the only thing you need to do is sit the only thing you need to do is sit the only thing you need to do is sit down with a doctor to explain to you how down with a doctor to explain to you how down with a doctor to explain to you how we really work and then you decide if we really work and then you decide if we really work and then you decide if you think it's a good idea to wear you think it's a good idea to wear you think it's a good idea to wear jackets and use air conditioning and use jackets and use air conditioning and use jackets and use air conditioning and use blankets and turn the sun off like Bill

1:19blankets and turn the sun off like Bill blankets and turn the sun off like Bill Gates or you know put artificial light Gates or you know put artificial light Gates or you know put artificial light on at night when you're drinking with on at night when you're drinking with on at night when you're drinking with your mates at the bar ultimately I think your mates at the bar ultimately I think your mates at the bar ultimately I think that's your choice if you want to kill that's your choice if you want to kill that's your choice if you want to kill yourself you should be allowed to do it yourself you should be allowed to do it yourself you should be allowed to do it but if you want Optimal Health that but if you want Optimal Health that but if you want Optimal Health that there should be a template out there for there should be a template out there for there should be a template out there for you to sit down and listen to podcast you to sit down and listen to podcast you to sit down and listen to podcast like this like this like this so you begin to realize that some of the so you begin to realize that some of the so you begin to realize that some of the most counterintuitive things that You' most counterintuitive things that You' most counterintuitive things that You' ever heard may be the smartest things ever heard may be the smartest things ever heard may be the smartest things you've ever heard Yeah you mentioned that like being heard Yeah you mentioned that like being healthy isn't about like going into the healthy isn't about like going into the healthy isn't about like going into the gym and getting strong muscles uh but gym and getting strong muscles uh but gym and getting strong muscles uh but you also mentioned earlier that the a you also mentioned earlier that the a you also mentioned earlier that the a lot of the Scandinavians do kind of lift lot of the Scandinavians do kind of lift lot of the Scandinavians do kind of lift heavy weights and stuff I I just want to heavy weights and stuff I I just want to heavy weights and stuff I I just want to try and clarify something for myself try and clarify something for myself try and clarify something for myself here already that I heard you saying here already that I heard you saying here already that I heard you saying that if you're lifting weights like that if you're lifting weights like that if you're lifting weights like outside in the sun then that probably outside in the sun then that probably outside in the sun then that probably seems to be okay is like any muscle seems to be okay is like any muscle seems to be okay is like any muscle building mutually exclusive with like

1:20building mutually exclusive with like building mutually exclusive with like longevity is it taking the mitochondria longevity is it taking the mitochondria longevity is it taking the mitochondria from our brain and heart into the muscle from our brain and heart into the muscle from our brain and heart into the muscle is there is there is there any would be okay I think this is a any would be okay I think this is a any would be okay I think this is a great question because I think it's the great question because I think it's the great question because I think it's the biggest mistake that's present in biggest mistake that's present in biggest mistake that's present in longevity research in fact one of the longevity research in fact one of the longevity research in fact one of the guys that I've been railing on recently guys that I've been railing on recently guys that I've been railing on recently just because he's friends with yman is just because he's friends with yman is just because he's friends with yman is Peter Adia and um Peter Adia and um Peter Adia and um he's written a New York Times he's written a New York Times he's written a New York Times best-selling book that I vehemently best-selling book that I vehemently best-selling book that I vehemently disagree with because if you're a mondra disagree with because if you're a mondra disagree with because if you're a mondra and you understand fundamentally What and you understand fundamentally What and you understand fundamentally What doug Wallace has said that every 10 doug Wallace has said that every 10 doug Wallace has said that every 10 every decade we lose about 10% every decade we lose about 10% every decade we lose about 10% efficiency in heteroplasmy condra are losing power as heteroplasmy condra are losing power as we age that's a normal consequence of we age that's a normal consequence of we age that's a normal consequence of Aging that means if you go and build a Aging that means if you go and build a Aging that means if you go and build a tissue up that have hypertrophied tissue up that have hypertrophied tissue up that have hypertrophied mitochondria and you're not a mammal mitochondria and you're not a mammal mitochondria and you're not a mammal that's designed to have those big that's designed to have those big that's designed to have those big muscles you are effectively creating a muscles you are effectively creating a muscles you are effectively creating a Robin Hood situation where you're

1:21Robin Hood situation where you're Robin Hood situation where you're stealing energy from your heart and your stealing energy from your heart and your stealing energy from your heart and your brain which since you are a silly brain which since you are a silly brain which since you are a silly talking monkey that's where we bury our talking monkey that's where we bury our talking monkey that's where we bury our mitochondrial capacity it makes mitochondrial capacity it makes mitochondrial capacity it makes absolutely no sense to do that and this absolutely no sense to do that and this absolutely no sense to do that and this really isn't a teic argument this is really isn't a teic argument this is really isn't a teic argument this is actually a thermal dyamic argument and I actually a thermal dyamic argument and I actually a thermal dyamic argument and I have decided to wage this war with him have decided to wage this war with him have decided to wage this war with him over podcast like this because I want over podcast like this because I want over podcast like this because I want people to actually think about this I people to actually think about this I people to actually think about this I don't want people to think he's right or don't want people to think he's right or don't want people to think he's right or I'm right I want people to actually I'm right I want people to actually I'm right I want people to actually parse this out for themselves once they parse this out for themselves once they parse this out for themselves once they understand fully the perspective that understand fully the perspective that understand fully the perspective that I'm giving you right now like when they I'm giving you right now like when they I'm giving you right now like when they go back and listen to the beginning of go back and listen to the beginning of go back and listen to the beginning of this podcast and I explain to this podcast and I explain to this podcast and I explain to you how the light dark and temperature you how the light dark and temperature you how the light dark and temperature Cycle Works in terms of thermodynamics Cycle Works in terms of thermodynamics Cycle Works in terms of thermodynamics and then you think about what we just and then you think about what we just and then you think about what we just talked about about muscle mass the silly talked about about muscle mass the silly talked about about muscle mass the silly the the talking I should say the monkeys the the talking I should say the monkeys the the talking I should say the monkeys that are designed to have huge muscles that are designed to have huge muscles that are designed to have huge muscles are the gorillas but they also have not

1:22are the gorillas but they also have not are the gorillas but they also have not Ferrari engines in their head that's Ferrari engines in their head that's Ferrari engines in their head that's what makes them different than us and what makes them different than us and what makes them different than us and the reason why they need that is because the reason why they need that is because the reason why they need that is because they're adapted for different they're adapted for different they're adapted for different environments than we are the flip side environments than we are the flip side environments than we are the flip side is we're the silly talking monkeys that is we're the silly talking monkeys that is we're the silly talking monkeys that do have the Ferrari in our head because do have the Ferrari in our head because do have the Ferrari in our head because you gets 20% of our cardiac you gets 20% of our cardiac you gets 20% of our cardiac output that means that doesn't mean that output that means that doesn't mean that output that means that doesn't mean that exercise is bad it doesn't mean that the exercise is bad it doesn't mean that the exercise is bad it doesn't mean that the Meatheads in Iceland are not doing is Meatheads in Iceland are not doing is Meatheads in Iceland are not doing is you know things wrong and I'm not you know things wrong and I'm not you know things wrong and I'm not telling you that you can't work out and telling you that you can't work out and telling you that you can't work out and have good muscles I'm just telling you have good muscles I'm just telling you have good muscles I'm just telling you if you live at high latitude you if you live at high latitude you if you live at high latitude you probably don't want to hypertrophy your probably don't want to hypertrophy your probably don't want to hypertrophy your skeletal muscles past the age of 50 skeletal muscles past the age of 50 skeletal muscles past the age of 50 because that's a loser and if you don't because that's a loser and if you don't because that's a loser and if you don't believe me just go look at human history believe me just go look at human history believe me just go look at human history very rarely will you see very rarely will you see very rarely will you see humans that have humongous muscle mass humans that have humongous muscle mass humans that have humongous muscle mass as they age in fact fact you look at the as they age in fact fact you look at the as they age in fact fact you look at the programs and I always talk about this programs and I always talk about this programs and I always talk about this guy called NE barel who Peter Adia guy called NE barel who Peter Adia guy called NE barel who Peter Adia actually likes but I don't think Peter

1:23actually likes but I don't think Peter actually likes but I don't think Peter adier really understands what Neil adier really understands what Neil adier really understands what Neil barsel has done he studies barsel has done he studies barsel has done he studies supercentenarians you know these are supercentenarians you know these are supercentenarians you know these are Americans that have lived over a hundred Americans that have lived over a hundred Americans that have lived over a hundred years old and what do what does he years old and what do what does he years old and what do what does he always find they don't have big skeletal always find they don't have big skeletal always find they don't have big skeletal muscles okay and that's really the muscles okay and that's really the muscles okay and that's really the take-home message that if you really take-home message that if you really take-home message that if you really want to live a long life you probably want to live a long life you probably want to live a long life you probably would be wise to have good muscles for would be wise to have good muscles for would be wise to have good muscles for maybe the first 50 60 years of your life maybe the first 50 60 years of your life maybe the first 50 60 years of your life but every decade after that you want to but every decade after that you want to but every decade after that you want to reserve your energy for your heart and reserve your energy for your heart and reserve your energy for your heart and your brain so that you can get to your your brain so that you can get to your your brain so that you can get to your 80s 90s and hundreds that's really the 80s 90s and hundreds that's really the 80s 90s and hundreds that's really the key story yeah okay that makes sense and key story yeah okay that makes sense and key story yeah okay that makes sense and then if we are going to be working out then if we are going to be working out then if we are going to be working out we want to be doing it in a place that's we want to be doing it in a place that's we want to be doing it in a place that's not under blue light and ideally outside not under blue light and ideally outside not under blue light and ideally outside in the in the in the sun yeah I mean I I think if you're sun yeah I mean I I think if you're sun yeah I mean I I think if you're going to lift heavy things I want you to going to lift heavy things I want you to going to lift heavy things I want you to do it in the sun that's you know at do it in the sun that's you know at do it in the sun that's you know at least in my country this is why I tell least in my country this is why I tell least in my country this is why I tell people about the the Meat Heads at people about the the Meat Heads at people about the the Meat Heads at Venice Beach at least they do it right

1:24Venice Beach at least they do it right Venice Beach at least they do it right then you know I make fun of of guys that then you know I make fun of of guys that then you know I make fun of of guys that are in the states like sha Baker is a are in the states like sha Baker is a are in the states like sha Baker is a big carnivore guy orthopedic surgeon who big carnivore guy orthopedic surgeon who big carnivore guy orthopedic surgeon who likes showing his muscles all around but likes showing his muscles all around but likes showing his muscles all around but I always point out he's still an I always point out he's still an I always point out he's still an orthopedic surgeon he's not as smart as orthopedic surgeon he's not as smart as orthopedic surgeon he's not as smart as a neurosurgeon he certainly doesn't a neurosurgeon he certainly doesn't a neurosurgeon he certainly doesn't understand some of the things that we're understand some of the things that we're understand some of the things that we're talking about here but do I respect that talking about here but do I respect that talking about here but do I respect that he's trying to help people get better he's trying to help people get better he's trying to help people get better yeah but I want him to understand what I yeah but I want him to understand what I yeah but I want him to understand what I just told you that having huge muscles just told you that having huge muscles just told you that having huge muscles is a huge constraint on your brain and is a huge constraint on your brain and is a huge constraint on your brain and when you understand that our brain is when you understand that our brain is when you understand that our brain is the Ferrari engine that actually never the Ferrari engine that actually never the Ferrari engine that actually never changes its its thermodynamics as we age changes its its thermodynamics as we age changes its its thermodynamics as we age then you begin to realize maybe you know then you begin to realize maybe you know then you begin to realize maybe you know going and doing all the things that he going and doing all the things that he going and doing all the things that he does is probably not the smartest thing does is probably not the smartest thing does is probably not the smartest thing and it's also probably not the smartest and it's also probably not the smartest and it's also probably not the smartest thing that Peter addia does and I'm not thing that Peter addia does and I'm not thing that Peter addia does and I'm not doing and saying this stuff without doing and saying this stuff without doing and saying this stuff without these guys as fools you have to realize

1:25these guys as fools you have to realize these guys as fools you have to realize I think they're both Smart Guys the I think they're both Smart Guys the I think they're both Smart Guys the problem is I don't think they've thought problem is I don't think they've thought problem is I don't think they've thought about this as deeply as I have as deeply about this as deeply as I have as deeply about this as deeply as I have as deeply as I explained to you in the beginning as I explained to you in the beginning as I explained to you in the beginning of this podcast you know to understand of this podcast you know to understand of this podcast you know to understand truly the implications of what Newtonian truly the implications of what Newtonian truly the implications of what Newtonian physics and Einstein physics means for physics and Einstein physics means for physics and Einstein physics means for your muscle mass because when you your muscle mass because when you your muscle mass because when you actually parse this out you begin to actually parse this out you begin to actually parse this out you begin to realize this is really a thermodynamic realize this is really a thermodynamic realize this is really a thermodynamic story that needs to be told it's story that needs to be told it's story that needs to be told it's actually The Greatest Story on Earth actually The Greatest Story on Earth actually The Greatest Story on Earth ever told why because this really is ever told why because this really is ever told why because this really is about the Fountain of Youth this really about the Fountain of Youth this really about the Fountain of Youth this really is about how to optimize your is about how to optimize your is about how to optimize your longevity um I just think you need to be longevity um I just think you need to be longevity um I just think you need to be smart about how you do it and I think smart about how you do it and I think smart about how you do it and I think when you try to give a one- siiz when you try to give a one- siiz when you try to give a one- siiz fits-all to everybody and you realize fits-all to everybody and you realize fits-all to everybody and you realize what is quantum mechanics really what is quantum mechanics really what is quantum mechanics really teaching us everybody's an N equals one teaching us everybody's an N equals one teaching us everybody's an N equals one because everybody has different choices because everybody has different choices because everybody has different choices they've made around light dark and they've made around light dark and they've made around light dark and temperature that's the temperature that's the temperature that's the key have you reached out to of those key have you reached out to of those key have you reached out to of those guys and tried to do a podcast with guys and tried to do a podcast with

1:26guys and tried to do a podcast with them them them uh let's put it this way I think every uh let's put it this way I think every uh let's put it this way I think every podcast I've done in the last year it's podcast I've done in the last year it's podcast I've done in the last year it's been a full frontal assault on on Peter been a full frontal assault on on Peter been a full frontal assault on on Peter Adia uh Shawn Baker has reached out to Adia uh Shawn Baker has reached out to Adia uh Shawn Baker has reached out to me wanted me to do this podcast I refuse me wanted me to do this podcast I refuse me wanted me to do this podcast I refuse to do it the reason I refuse to do it is to do it the reason I refuse to do it is to do it the reason I refuse to do it is for what I just told you until Shawn for what I just told you until Shawn for what I just told you until Shawn Baker understands exactly the Baker understands exactly the Baker understands exactly the perspective that I have I'm hoping a guy perspective that I have I'm hoping a guy perspective that I have I'm hoping a guy like him will listen to this podcast I like him will listen to this podcast I like him will listen to this podcast I did with you and understand did with you and understand did with you and understand fundamentally why he's incorrect is fundamentally why he's incorrect is fundamentally why he's incorrect is because he doesn't understand Newtonian because he doesn't understand Newtonian because he doesn't understand Newtonian and einsteinian physics in fact I've and einsteinian physics in fact I've and einsteinian physics in fact I've been told uh by people in the know who been told uh by people in the know who been told uh by people in the know who know Peter a very well the reason he know Peter a very well the reason he know Peter a very well the reason he doesn't want me on his podcast is doesn't want me on his podcast is doesn't want me on his podcast is because he's like this guy only talks because he's like this guy only talks because he's like this guy only talks about physics and I don't want to talk about physics and I don't want to talk about physics and I don't want to talk about physics what does that tell you it about physics what does that tell you it about physics what does that tell you it tells you that he wants to stay at the

1:27tells you that he wants to stay at the tells you that he wants to stay at the Box card biochemistry level because Box card biochemistry level because Box card biochemistry level because that's where he feels comfortable oh I that's where he feels comfortable oh I that's where he feels comfortable oh I got news here I'm comfortable at that got news here I'm comfortable at that got news here I'm comfortable at that level too because I learned that stuff level too because I learned that stuff level too because I learned that stuff but I realized that wasn't the thing but I realized that wasn't the thing but I realized that wasn't the thing that was getting me that was getting me that was getting me better yeah I just wonder if with like better yeah I just wonder if with like better yeah I just wonder if with like Shawn Baker or maybe even like Paul Shawn Baker or maybe even like Paul Shawn Baker or maybe even like Paul saladino I know he's interested in your saladino I know he's interested in your saladino I know he's interested in your stuff as well that did that could be an stuff as well that did that could be an stuff as well that did that could be an opportunity for you to like reach a lot opportunity for you to like reach a lot opportunity for you to like reach a lot more people and kind of show them like more people and kind of show them like more people and kind of show them like if you literally talk Sean but Owen if you literally talk Sean but Owen if you literally talk Sean but Owen you're making you're making a big you're making you're making a big you're making you're making a big assumption here and I'll I'm I'm gonna I assumption here and I'll I'm I'm gonna I assumption here and I'll I'm I'm gonna I don't want to say cut you off the knees don't want to say cut you off the knees don't want to say cut you off the knees but I want you to understand something but I want you to understand something but I want you to understand something I'm not interested in being popular you I'm not interested in being popular you I'm not interested in being popular you know what I'm interested in yeah being know what I'm interested in yeah being know what I'm interested in yeah being right that's what I'm interested in I'm right that's what I'm interested in I'm right that's what I'm interested in I'm interested in getting the story right interested in getting the story right interested in getting the story right why because if you know the story of why because if you know the story of why because if you know the story of human evolution I don't want to get 8 human evolution I don't want to get 8 human evolution I don't want to get 8 billion people this mess message okay uh billion people this mess message okay uh billion people this mess message okay uh when we left Africa we got down to about when we left Africa we got down to about when we left Africa we got down to about 100,000 people and then we went from 100,000 people and then we went from 100,000 people and then we went from 100,000 to 8 billion what does that tell

1:28100,000 to 8 billion what does that tell 100,000 to 8 billion what does that tell you you don't need a lot of people to you you don't need a lot of people to you you don't need a lot of people to get this right you just need a lot of get this right you just need a lot of get this right you just need a lot of people um to get it right in different people um to get it right in different people um to get it right in different parts of the world I'd like to have parts of the world I'd like to have parts of the world I'd like to have let's say there's 196 countries I'd like let's say there's 196 countries I'd like let's say there's 196 countries I'd like to have a hundred people in every to have a hundred people in every to have a hundred people in every country get this message why because country get this message why because country get this message why because then those 100 people can disseminate then those 100 people can disseminate then those 100 people can disseminate this this this information across the land and and let information across the land and and let information across the land and and let me just tell you I have no Illusions not me just tell you I have no Illusions not me just tell you I have no Illusions not everybody's going to get this message everybody's going to get this message everybody's going to get this message this is not an easy message to this is not an easy message to this is not an easy message to assimilate and get in but the thing is assimilate and get in but the thing is assimilate and get in but the thing is before I die and get put in the ground I before I die and get put in the ground I before I die and get put in the ground I don't want anybody telling me that I don't want anybody telling me that I don't want anybody telling me that I didn't tell people the truth see I feel didn't tell people the truth see I feel didn't tell people the truth see I feel like the first 40 years of my life as an like the first 40 years of my life as an like the first 40 years of my life as an allopathic doctor that I hurt more allopathic doctor that I hurt more allopathic doctor that I hurt more people than I helped now I feel like the people than I helped now I feel like the people than I helped now I feel like the last 20 years that I'm really helping last 20 years that I'm really helping last 20 years that I'm really helping people cuz I'm showing them the people cuz I'm showing them the people cuz I'm showing them the decentralized way that biology needs to decentralized way that biology needs to decentralized way that biology needs to work and ultimately and this is the true work and ultimately and this is the true work and ultimately and this is the true decentralized part of me that I think

1:29decentralized part of me that I think decentralized part of me that I think people have a huge problem people have a huge problem people have a huge problem with I learned a lesson from Evolution with I learned a lesson from Evolution with I learned a lesson from Evolution not everybody will survive that's what not everybody will survive that's what not everybody will survive that's what Extinction events are about and not Extinction events are about and not Extinction events are about and not everybody is g to be wise and it's not everybody is g to be wise and it's not everybody is g to be wise and it's not about saving everybody it's about those about saving everybody it's about those about saving everybody it's about those people who care enough about themselves people who care enough about themselves people who care enough about themselves to realize that they have to question to realize that they have to question to realize that they have to question the status the status the status quo so that they get the message I don't quo so that they get the message I don't quo so that they get the message I don't want to convince Bea Adia I don't want want to convince Bea Adia I don't want want to convince Bea Adia I don't want to convince sha Baker I don't want to to convince sha Baker I don't want to to convince sha Baker I don't want to convince Paul saladino and I certainly convince Paul saladino and I certainly convince Paul saladino and I certainly don't want to convince all of your mates don't want to convince all of your mates don't want to convince all of your mates in London but the ones that will listen in London but the ones that will listen in London but the ones that will listen to this podcast that say hey Owen to this podcast that say hey Owen to this podcast that say hey Owen instead of going to have a pine of beer instead of going to have a pine of beer instead of going to have a pine of beer at the the place let's go back to the at the the place let's go back to the at the the place let's go back to the the house and put some candles on the house and put some candles on the house and put some candles on and talk about what actually Jack said and talk about what actually Jack said and talk about what actually Jack said the implications of that guess what the implications of that guess what the implications of that guess what those are the people that I'm interested

1:30those are the people that I'm interested those are the people that I'm interested okay yeah when I when I mentioned that I okay yeah when I when I mentioned that I okay yeah when I when I mentioned that I was kind of thinking more about there's was kind of thinking more about there's was kind of thinking more about there's the potential to find those people in the potential to find those people in the potential to find those people in the audiences of the people like P I'm the audiences of the people like P I'm the audiences of the people like P I'm finding them Owen you got to realize finding them Owen you got to realize finding them Owen you got to realize I've been doing this 20 years 20 years I've been doing this 20 years 20 years I've been doing this 20 years 20 years ago I was bad crazy now everybody ago I was bad crazy now everybody ago I was bad crazy now everybody wants to talk to me yeah that's a consequence of being me yeah that's a consequence of being more right and less wrong and and don't more right and less wrong and and don't more right and less wrong and and don't don't don't make uh don't make a mistake don't don't make uh don't make a mistake don't don't make uh don't make a mistake I just did a podcast with one of my good I just did a podcast with one of my good I just did a podcast with one of my good friends Ted aoso that just came out two friends Ted aoso that just came out two friends Ted aoso that just came out two days ago where it's two decentralized days ago where it's two decentralized days ago where it's two decentralized guys talking and I said look I know guys talking and I said look I know guys talking and I said look I know there's gonna be things that I talk there's gonna be things that I talk there's gonna be things that I talk about that I'm wrong about you know 15 about that I'm wrong about you know 15 about that I'm wrong about you know 15 20 30 50 60 years from now but I got 20 30 50 60 years from now but I got 20 30 50 60 years from now but I got news for you I know I'm a lot more right news for you I know I'm a lot more right news for you I know I'm a lot more right about these things than Peter Shawn or about these things than Peter Shawn or about these things than Peter Shawn or saladino that I can tell you mhm okay saladino that I can tell you mhm okay saladino that I can tell you mhm okay that makes that makes that makes sense so you've been quite I guess sense so you've been quite I guess sense so you've been quite I guess damning of blue light I spoke to an

1:31damning of blue light I spoke to an damning of blue light I spoke to an opthalmologist about this about like opthalmologist about this about like opthalmologist about this about like blue light and he said the most of the blue light and he said the most of the blue light and he said the most of the blue light we get is from the Sun so is blue light we get is from the Sun so is blue light we get is from the Sun so is the issue that that's no longer true the issue that that's no longer true the issue that that's no longer true that that is no you gotta you gotta hold that that is no you gotta you gotta hold that that is no you gotta you gotta hold his feet to the fire what he said to you his feet to the fire what he said to you his feet to the fire what he said to you is factually is factually is factually true from an evolutionary perspective true from an evolutionary perspective true from an evolutionary perspective he's correct that the sun has a ton of he's correct that the sun has a ton of he's correct that the sun has a ton of blue light but is that the light that blue light but is that the light that blue light but is that the light that silly talking monkeys live under now no silly talking monkeys live under now no silly talking monkeys live under now no I was going to I was going to say is it I was going to I was going to say is it I was going to I was going to say is it blue light inherently isn't bad but it's blue light inherently isn't bad but it's blue light inherently isn't bad but it's like isolated blue light at the wrong like isolated blue light at the wrong like isolated blue light at the wrong times is the correct remember that the times is the correct remember that the times is the correct remember that the the blue light from the Sun never not the blue light from the Sun never not the blue light from the Sun never not has red well is that true when you put has red well is that true when you put has red well is that true when you put your LED light on above you right now your LED light on above you right now your LED light on above you right now since it's getting dark in your since it's getting dark in your since it's getting dark in your environment no but see that that's the environment no but see that that's the environment no but see that that's the point that I'm trying to tell you about point that I'm trying to tell you about point that I'm trying to tell you about the the Nuance that's very difficult from my Nuance that's very difficult from my Nuance that's very difficult from my perspective so you have to hold that perspective so you have to hold that perspective so you have to hold that optomologist fee to the fire just like I

1:32optomologist fee to the fire just like I optomologist fee to the fire just like I just told you that I have to hold Peter just told you that I have to hold Peter just told you that I have to hold Peter adus saladino and Shawn Baker's fee to adus saladino and Shawn Baker's fee to adus saladino and Shawn Baker's fee to the fire why because when we make the fire why because when we make the fire why because when we make blanket statements about light realize blanket statements about light realize blanket statements about light realize that light is the most complex thing that light is the most complex thing that light is the most complex thing that's present in nature and you really that's present in nature and you really that's present in nature and you really need to understand it well because it need to understand it well because it need to understand it well because it has humongous nuan and and humongous has humongous nuan and and humongous has humongous nuan and and humongous context that's the reason why I told you context that's the reason why I told you context that's the reason why I told you that that that um everything is In N equals one game okay so you mentioned red lights game okay so you mentioned red lights earlier and like fire so if if people earlier and like fire so if if people earlier and like fire so if if people are are are using artificial lights like how can using artificial lights like how can using artificial lights like how can what what are like the best ones to use what what are like the best ones to use what what are like the best ones to use how do you like minimize the effects how do you like minimize the effects how do you like minimize the effects well ask me a better question is well ask me a better question is well ask me a better question is artificial light can it replace the Sun artificial light can it replace the Sun artificial light can it replace the Sun the answer is no okay hard stop so then the answer is no okay hard stop so then the answer is no okay hard stop so then your next question should be so Jack are your next question should be so Jack are your next question should be so Jack are you you you saying that the use of red light at

1:33saying that the use of red light at saying that the use of red light at night also has negative consequences the night also has negative consequences the night also has negative consequences the answer is yes didn't I just tell you answer is yes didn't I just tell you answer is yes didn't I just tell you that about fire and the Andals and Homo that about fire and the Andals and Homo that about fire and the Andals and Homo sapiens what did I say to you 45 minutes sapiens what did I say to you 45 minutes sapiens what did I say to you 45 minutes ago when I said it's July 4th and you ago when I said it's July 4th and you ago when I said it's July 4th and you need to get up at 3:45 a.m. and see the need to get up at 3:45 a.m. and see the need to get up at 3:45 a.m. and see the Sun and go to bed at 10 or 11:00 at Sun and go to bed at 10 or 11:00 at Sun and go to bed at 10 or 11:00 at night I told you that's the way to do it night I told you that's the way to do it night I told you that's the way to do it m didn't I yeah so why are you trying to m didn't I yeah so why are you trying to m didn't I yeah so why are you trying to change a story on me now see my story is change a story on me now see my story is change a story on me now see my story is not going to change my friend it's going not going to change my friend it's going not going to change my friend it's going to be exactly the same nothing replaces to be exactly the same nothing replaces to be exactly the same nothing replaces the sun let me be very clear the sun is the sun let me be very clear the sun is the sun let me be very clear the sun is Tina you know what Tina stands for there Tina you know what Tina stands for there Tina you know what Tina stands for there is no alternative yeah got it okay so if is no alternative yeah got it okay so if is no alternative yeah got it okay so if you want to use artificial light to fit you want to use artificial light to fit you want to use artificial light to fit with your high latitude modern living with your high latitude modern living with your high latitude modern living life you can do that but just so you life you can do that but just so you life you can do that but just so you know you're still breaking nature's laws know you're still breaking nature's laws know you're still breaking nature's laws you're still closer to wasting your you're still closer to wasting your you're still closer to wasting your mitochondrial heteroplasmy when you do mitochondrial heteroplasmy when you do mitochondrial heteroplasmy when you do that your margin of safety isn't that

1:34that your margin of safety isn't that that your margin of safety isn't that good and if you really think about what good and if you really think about what good and if you really think about what I just told you you go back to the I just told you you go back to the I just told you you go back to the beginning of the podcast you're like oh beginning of the podcast you're like oh beginning of the podcast you're like oh that means if I live at a high that means if I live at a high that means if I live at a high latitude and I'm using those things I latitude and I'm using those things I latitude and I'm using those things I even have less margin of safety if I do even have less margin of safety if I do even have less margin of safety if I do that that's true that is absolutely that that's true that is absolutely that that's true that is absolutely accurate to what we know to be true accurate to what we know to be true accurate to what we know to be true today that doesn't mean I'm not telling today that doesn't mean I'm not telling today that doesn't mean I'm not telling you can't do it just means that you need you can't do it just means that you need you can't do it just means that you need to be really careful about how you're to be really careful about how you're to be really careful about how you're running your biology okay yeah I was running your biology okay yeah I was running your biology okay yeah I was just wondering if there were like ways just wondering if there were like ways just wondering if there were like ways that were kind of less damaging cuz I that were kind of less damaging cuz I that were kind of less damaging cuz I know people do get or excited about like know people do get or excited about like know people do get or excited about like red lights and use red lights and and red lights and use red lights and and red lights and use red lights and and not like white lights not like white lights not like white lights whatever yeah well let's put it this way whatever yeah well let's put it this way whatever yeah well let's put it this way I think people that I think people that I think people that use red lights have more freedom uh when use red lights have more freedom uh when use red lights have more freedom uh when they're at low latitude I think people they're at low latitude I think people they're at low latitude I think people that live at high latitudes it's a very that live at high latitudes it's a very that live at high latitudes it's a very dangerous situation um if you were to dangerous situation um if you were to dangerous situation um if you were to ask me this is where I think the um

1:35ask me this is where I think the um ask me this is where I think the um people at the UK people in Scandinavia people at the UK people in Scandinavia people at the UK people in Scandinavia get it right the best use of light at get it right the best use of light at get it right the best use of light at high latitudes is what the swedes and high latitudes is what the swedes and high latitudes is what the swedes and the Norwegians do they use geothermal the Norwegians do they use geothermal the Norwegians do they use geothermal pools remember infrared BNC light is pools remember infrared BNC light is pools remember infrared BNC light is what they get when they do sauna real what they get when they do sauna real what they get when they do sauna real SAA not the fake that people are SAA not the fake that people are SAA not the fake that people are buying now I'm talking about geothermal buying now I'm talking about geothermal buying now I'm talking about geothermal pools that okay with uh but when it pools that okay with uh but when it pools that okay with uh but when it comes to light I think the only light comes to light I think the only light comes to light I think the only light that I would use if I lived at high that I would use if I lived at high that I would use if I lived at high latitude in 2023 is probably candle latitude in 2023 is probably candle latitude in 2023 is probably candle light or fire at night that's light or fire at night that's light or fire at night that's it I'm not even a big fan of using red it I'm not even a big fan of using red it I'm not even a big fan of using red light if I lived at the 60th latitude light if I lived at the 60th latitude light if I lived at the 60th latitude I'd be concerned about that doing it I'd be concerned about that doing it I'd be concerned about that doing it over two three four five six decades over two three four five six decades over two three four five six decades yeah cuz the idea behind that is when yeah cuz the idea behind that is when yeah cuz the idea behind that is when the sun's down there is no red light the sun's down there is no red light the sun's down there is no red light even like there when the Sun even like there when the Sun even like there when the Sun but off to that Owen you're you're but off to that Owen you're you're but off to that Owen you're you're smarter than you were an hour and a half smarter than you were an hour and a half smarter than you were an hour and a half ago you're right and that's what I'm ago you're right and that's what I'm ago you're right and that's what I'm concerned about and do I know that red

1:36concerned about and do I know that red concerned about and do I know that red light at night actually disrupts light at night actually disrupts light at night actually disrupts melatonin do I know that it affects the melatonin do I know that it affects the melatonin do I know that it affects the cortisol melatonin cycle it does and cortisol melatonin cycle it does and cortisol melatonin cycle it does and when you're at high latitude because you when you're at high latitude because you when you're at high latitude because you have no light stability it's even a have no light stability it's even a have no light stability it's even a bigger effect effect okay another thing I heard see you're okay another thing I heard see you're okay another thing I heard see you're opening you're open you're opening up opening you're open you're opening up opening you're open you're opening up the uh the quantum probabilities now now the uh the quantum probabilities now now the uh the quantum probabilities now now you're beginning to realize why this you're beginning to realize why this you're beginning to realize why this stuff is a little bit difficult why when stuff is a little bit difficult why when stuff is a little bit difficult why when you actually hear it laid out and you you actually hear it laid out and you you actually hear it laid out and you understand it you have this perspective understand it you have this perspective understand it you have this perspective you go man I need to think about my life you go man I need to think about my life you go man I need to think about my life a little bit differently the way I'm a little bit differently the way I'm a little bit differently the way I'm doing doing doing things making me think it might be things making me think it might be things making me think it might be easiest to live in El easiest to live in El easiest to live in El Salvador well of course it is I we Salvador well of course it is I we Salvador well of course it is I we already talked about that a long time already talked about that a long time already talked about that a long time ago but I still want you to know that I ago but I still want you to know that I ago but I still want you to know that I think you can make it where you're at think you can make it where you're at think you can make it where you're at but you have to realize that you have to but you have to realize that you have to but you have to realize that you have to be a a tougher than Nails type of person be a a tougher than Nails type of person be a a tougher than Nails type of person you have to be really like a viking and

1:37you have to be really like a viking and you have to be really like a viking and um that's why those people were so um that's why those people were so um that's why those people were so hearty they they did things the right hearty they they did things the right hearty they they did things the right way the the problem is Modern Life like way the the problem is Modern Life like way the the problem is Modern Life like when I was in Edinburgh you know a when I was in Edinburgh you know a when I was in Edinburgh you know a couple months ago I just it was couple months ago I just it was couple months ago I just it was remarkable to me that it was July and remarkable to me that it was July and remarkable to me that it was July and I'm walking around and people wearing I'm walking around and people wearing I'm walking around and people wearing down coats and it was like 70 fah I'm down coats and it was like 70 fah I'm down coats and it was like 70 fah I'm walking around literally in t-shirts and walking around literally in t-shirts and walking around literally in t-shirts and shorts I will never forget when I was in shorts I will never forget when I was in shorts I will never forget when I was in Iceland it was 64th latitude it was Iceland it was 64th latitude it was Iceland it was 64th latitude it was probably 50 Fahrenheit 30 mph winds probably 50 Fahrenheit 30 mph winds probably 50 Fahrenheit 30 mph winds again in t-shirt and shorts and old again in t-shirt and shorts and old again in t-shirt and shorts and old ladies were coming up to me who are ladies were coming up to me who are ladies were coming up to me who are European going sir aren't you cold and I European going sir aren't you cold and I European going sir aren't you cold and I looked at them and I said aren't you looked at them and I said aren't you looked at them and I said aren't you sick and tired of be in second sick and tired of be in second sick and tired of be in second tired and they just looked at me they tired and they just looked at me they tired and they just looked at me they don't get it and I know they don't get don't get it and I know they don't get don't get it and I know they don't get it I don't I know people don't get this it I don't I know people don't get this it I don't I know people don't get this perspective but I want them to this is perspective but I want them to this is perspective but I want them to this is the reason why I do podcasts with guys

1:38the reason why I do podcasts with guys the reason why I do podcasts with guys like you not to be provocative people like you not to be provocative people like you not to be provocative people will think that this is provocative it's will think that this is provocative it's will think that this is provocative it's not it's actually very accurate okay accurate okay so Jack how can we use like light to our so Jack how can we use like light to our so Jack how can we use like light to our advantage if someone's just trying to op advantage if someone's just trying to op advantage if someone's just trying to op optimize kind of their health biology optimize kind of their health biology optimize kind of their health biology other areas of their life or even for other areas of their life or even for other areas of their life or even for like athletic like athletic like athletic performance oh the number one thing is performance oh the number one thing is performance oh the number one thing is look at the way the sun rises and sets look at the way the sun rises and sets look at the way the sun rises and sets where you're at and maximize it simple where you're at and maximize it simple where you're at and maximize it simple if you know you only have eight hours of if you know you only have eight hours of if you know you only have eight hours of sunlight a day make sure that you never sunlight a day make sure that you never sunlight a day make sure that you never miss one minut of miss one minut of miss one minut of it when it's eight hours when it's 12 it when it's eight hours when it's 12 it when it's eight hours when it's 12 hours make sure you get that when it's hours make sure you get that when it's hours make sure you get that when it's 16 hours or 17 hours try to get as much 16 hours or 17 hours try to get as much 16 hours or 17 hours try to get as much as you can but make sure that when the as you can but make sure that when the as you can but make sure that when the sun sets all lights that's where you are sun sets all lights that's where you are sun sets all lights that's where you are make sure that when it's Zer degre SE make sure that when it's Zer degre SE make sure that when it's Zer degre SE out all your windows are open and that

1:39out all your windows are open and that out all your windows are open and that is coming in on you if you want to put a is coming in on you if you want to put a is coming in on you if you want to put a blanket on great but make sure that your blanket on great but make sure that your blanket on great but make sure that your body is feeling that temperature body is feeling that temperature body is feeling that temperature especially on your face because most especially on your face because most especially on your face because most people usually don't put the blanket people usually don't put the blanket people usually don't put the blanket over their face because then the Mamon over their face because then the Mamon over their face because then the Mamon dive reflex is working in you it still dive reflex is working in you it still dive reflex is working in you it still works um and the flip side of that is works um and the flip side of that is works um and the flip side of that is you know if you're living at a low you know if you're living at a low you know if you're living at a low latitude the same things are in place latitude the same things are in place latitude the same things are in place and this is where it's a huge problem and this is where it's a huge problem and this is where it's a huge problem you know at the 13th latitude when it's you know at the 13th latitude when it's you know at the 13th latitude when it's 6:30 at night or 7 o'clock at night 6:30 at night or 7 o'clock at night 6:30 at night or 7 o'clock at night there it's pitch black like it's so dark there it's pitch black like it's so dark there it's pitch black like it's so dark like people who come from the UK are like people who come from the UK are like people who come from the UK are down there and it's like July and it's down there and it's like July and it's down there and it's like July and it's dark at 7 o'clock they're kind of dark at 7 o'clock they're kind of dark at 7 o'clock they're kind of stunned that means that's where life stunned that means that's where life stunned that means that's where life ends so your night life at low latitudes ends so your night life at low latitudes ends so your night life at low latitudes is designed to be kind of boring is designed to be kind of boring is designed to be kind of boring what you want to do is live most of your what you want to do is live most of your what you want to do is live most of your life during the light and that's what we life during the light and that's what we life during the light and that's what we are we're creatures of light that's what are we're creatures of light that's what are we're creatures of light that's what we're supposed to do yeah so I know we we're supposed to do yeah so I know we we're supposed to do yeah so I know we have like the the

1:40have like the the have like the the supermatic nucleus I think I'm saying supermatic nucleus I think I'm saying supermatic nucleus I think I'm saying that correctly that like detects light that correctly that like detects light that correctly that like detects light in our eye but you you mentioned you in our eye but you you mentioned you in our eye but you you mentioned you want the cold on your face do we like want the cold on your face do we like want the cold on your face do we like what kind of do we have like receptors what kind of do we have like receptors what kind of do we have like receptors for cold on our face absolutely it's for cold on our face absolutely it's for cold on our face absolutely it's that's the stuff that I wrote about 20 that's the stuff that I wrote about 20 that's the stuff that I wrote about 20 years ago called the Mamon dive reflex years ago called the Mamon dive reflex years ago called the Mamon dive reflex dive and it turns out those cold dive and it turns out those cold dive and it turns out those cold receptors they actually pay attention to receptors they actually pay attention to receptors they actually pay attention to that left- in Milano ctin that left- in Milano ctin that left- in Milano ctin pathway uh that's the reason why when a pathway uh that's the reason why when a pathway uh that's the reason why when a baby is born it doesn't take its first baby is born it doesn't take its first baby is born it doesn't take its first breath remember it came from a cold wet breath remember it came from a cold wet breath remember it came from a cold wet environment so when it's born and it's environment so when it's born and it's environment so when it's born and it's born into an air-driven environment born into an air-driven environment born into an air-driven environment there's a huge temperature there's a huge temperature there's a huge temperature difference uh babies will take their difference uh babies will take their difference uh babies will take their first breath when they're born into the first breath when they're born into the first breath when they're born into the air but what do you see that most humans air but what do you see that most humans air but what do you see that most humans do um from an evolutionary perspective do um from an evolutionary perspective do um from an evolutionary perspective they bore their their live birth in the they bore their their live birth in the they bore their their live birth in the ocean and the babies don't take their ocean and the babies don't take their ocean and the babies don't take their first breath when they go into the water first breath when they go into the water first breath when they go into the water they wait till they come to the surface

1:41they wait till they come to the surface they wait till they come to the surface how do they make that decision it's tied how do they make that decision it's tied how do they make that decision it's tied to the temperature change on their face to the temperature change on their face to the temperature change on their face that should explain to you why modern that should explain to you why modern that should explain to you why modern humans get obstructive sea apony for the humans get obstructive sea apony for the humans get obstructive sea apony for the same reason because their temperature same reason because their temperature same reason because their temperature Regulators in the hypothalamus are Regulators in the hypothalamus are Regulators in the hypothalamus are broken how do you like that yeah broken how do you like that yeah broken how do you like that yeah I've not heard anything about this I've not heard anything about this I've not heard anything about this before from any of your your stuff before from any of your your stuff before from any of your your stuff that's very interesting well it's that's very interesting well it's that's very interesting well it's written about in the cold thermogenesis written about in the cold thermogenesis written about in the cold thermogenesis series at Jack cruz.com you go back and series at Jack cruz.com you go back and series at Jack cruz.com you go back and put Mamon dive reflex in Jack Cruz and I put Mamon dive reflex in Jack Cruz and I put Mamon dive reflex in Jack Cruz and I guarantee you you'll see a ton of it guarantee you you'll see a ton of it guarantee you you'll see a ton of it yeah that's the basis of how coal yeah that's the basis of how coal yeah that's the basis of how coal thermogenesis Works in thermogenesis Works in thermogenesis Works in us every single mammal on this planet us every single mammal on this planet us every single mammal on this planet has the Mamon di reflex doesn't matter has the Mamon di reflex doesn't matter has the Mamon di reflex doesn't matter what type of mmal you are every single what type of mmal you are every single what type of mmal you are every single one one one Hazard and it's linked to that LE in Hazard and it's linked to that LE in Hazard and it's linked to that LE in Milano courton Milano courton Milano courton pathway I was speaking to my friend the pathway I was speaking to my friend the pathway I was speaking to my friend the other day about uh the podcast you did

1:42other day about uh the podcast you did other day about uh the podcast you did with hubman and Rick Rubin and there was with hubman and Rick Rubin and there was with hubman and Rick Rubin and there was this point I he was asking me about it this point I he was asking me about it this point I he was asking me about it and I couldn't explain it properly so and I couldn't explain it properly so and I couldn't explain it properly so hopefully be able to help out here I I hopefully be able to help out here I I hopefully be able to help out here I I understand that the little mammals understand that the little mammals understand that the little mammals um after the the what's it called K the um after the the what's it called K the um after the the what's it called K the KT event um were like making inside of KT event um were like making inside of KT event um were like making inside of them but how does that like negate their them but how does that like negate their them but how does that like negate their need for need for need for food it doesn't negate their need for food it doesn't negate their need for food it doesn't negate their need for food they are actually able to make food food they are actually able to make food food they are actually able to make food from the Palm SE Gene remember the palm from the Palm SE Gene remember the palm from the Palm SE Gene remember the palm seed Gene also has another part of it we seed Gene also has another part of it we seed Gene also has another part of it we talked about the alpha msh part but we talked about the alpha msh part but we talked about the alpha msh part but we didn't spend a lot of time talking about didn't spend a lot of time talking about didn't spend a lot of time talking about is the other big part called is the other big part called is the other big part called acph so from Act is acph so from Act is acph so from Act is adrenocorticotropin uh releasing hormone adrenocorticotropin uh releasing hormone adrenocorticotropin uh releasing hormone that's the precursor for cortisol what that's the precursor for cortisol what that's the precursor for cortisol what do you know about when you give somebody do you know about when you give somebody do you know about when you give somebody cortisol what does it make in their body cortisol what does it make in their body cortisol what does it make in their body glucose raise glucose and insul yeah glucose raise glucose and insul yeah glucose raise glucose and insul yeah there you go so you're able to actually

1:43there you go so you're able to actually there you go so you're able to actually make glucose directly from light so what make glucose directly from light so what make glucose directly from light so what does that tell you about the pomy gene does that tell you about the pomy gene does that tell you about the pomy gene pomy Gene is actually tied to animal pomy Gene is actually tied to animal pomy Gene is actually tied to animal photosynthesis well what does the NHS photosynthesis well what does the NHS photosynthesis well what does the NHS have to say about animal photosynthesis have to say about animal photosynthesis have to say about animal photosynthesis they think it's Preposterous yet you they think it's Preposterous yet you they think it's Preposterous yet you know that every mammal has palmy in them know that every mammal has palmy in them know that every mammal has palmy in them you know that humans do but yet they you know that humans do but yet they you know that humans do but yet they tell you that you can't and how many tell you that you can't and how many tell you that you can't and how many times have you seen the picture on my times have you seen the picture on my times have you seen the picture on my Twitter feed where I always show you Twitter feed where I always show you Twitter feed where I always show you that putting on L LED light alone what that putting on L LED light alone what that putting on L LED light alone what does it do it raises blood glucose and does it do it raises blood glucose and does it do it raises blood glucose and it raises insulin so hard stop what does it raises insulin so hard stop what does it raises insulin so hard stop what does that tell you that light creates glucose that tell you that light creates glucose that tell you that light creates glucose what do you know about high glucose and what do you know about high glucose and what do you know about high glucose and high insulin shrinks your brain what do high insulin shrinks your brain what do high insulin shrinks your brain what do you know about the mammals that were you know about the mammals that were you know about the mammals that were present at the KT event were they were present at the KT event were they were present at the KT event were they were they mammals that had Ferrari engines in they mammals that had Ferrari engines in they mammals that had Ferrari engines in their head no little things no right see their head no little things no right see their head no little things no right see they were different mammals than we are they were different mammals than we are they were different mammals than we are today so what does that tell you about today so what does that tell you about today so what does that tell you about mammals today that are living under

1:44mammals today that are living under mammals today that are living under light that is like the KT event from light that is like the KT event from light that is like the KT event from blocking the sun that's shrinking that blocking the sun that's shrinking that blocking the sun that's shrinking that brain there you go bro now you brain there you go bro now you brain there you go bro now you understand why Alzheimer's Parkinson's understand why Alzheimer's Parkinson's understand why Alzheimer's Parkinson's and neurod and neurod and neurod degeneration are playing the role that degeneration are playing the role that degeneration are playing the role that they're playing today you beginning to they're playing today you beginning to they're playing today you beginning to understand the flip side of the story understand the flip side of the story understand the flip side of the story but remember the original story for the but remember the original story for the but remember the original story for the mammals was this allowed them to survive mammals was this allowed them to survive mammals was this allowed them to survive a poor light environment while the a poor light environment while the a poor light environment while the dinosaurs were dying because there was dinosaurs were dying because there was dinosaurs were dying because there was no sunlight there they could live off a no sunlight there they could live off a no sunlight there they could live off a poorly lit environment because they poorly lit environment because they poorly lit environment because they could make enough glucose to survive could make enough glucose to survive could make enough glucose to survive until photosynthesis came back and then until photosynthesis came back and then until photosynthesis came back and then what happened then what happened is they what happened then what happened is they what happened then what happened is they took their main semiconductor that was took their main semiconductor that was took their main semiconductor that was on their surface surface and on their surface surface and on their surface surface and internalized it why because it turns off internalized it why because it turns off internalized it why because it turns off melanin turns sunlight and is able to melanin turns sunlight and is able to melanin turns sunlight and is able to make the biggest charge separated of make the biggest charge separated of make the biggest charge separated of water to create both protons electrons

1:45water to create both protons electrons water to create both protons electrons and hydrogen what does our mitochondria and hydrogen what does our mitochondria and hydrogen what does our mitochondria use h plus hydrogen hydrogen heat use h plus hydrogen hydrogen heat use h plus hydrogen hydrogen heat engine what's the difference between engine what's the difference between engine what's the difference between photosynthesis and melanin in terms of photosynthesis and melanin in terms of photosynthesis and melanin in terms of photosynthesis photosynthesis is done photosynthesis photosynthesis is done photosynthesis photosynthesis is done with chlorophyll it creates two with chlorophyll it creates two with chlorophyll it creates two electrons in the photosam what does electrons in the photosam what does electrons in the photosam what does melanin create four electrons double the melanin create four electrons double the melanin create four electrons double the amount what else does melanin create amount what else does melanin create amount what else does melanin create creates H2 and O2 does O2 is O2 used by creates H2 and O2 does O2 is O2 used by creates H2 and O2 does O2 is O2 used by the mitochondria yep but is H2 two the mitochondria yep but is H2 two the mitochondria yep but is H2 two hydrogen protons that's inside hydrogen protons that's inside hydrogen protons that's inside mitochondria why is mitochondria why is mitochondria why is all um mammal melanin tend to be right all um mammal melanin tend to be right all um mammal melanin tend to be right around the colony of mitochondri inside around the colony of mitochondri inside around the colony of mitochondri inside a cell now you know the reason why a cell now you know the reason why a cell now you know the reason why because it's creating the things that because it's creating the things that because it's creating the things that the mitochondria the mitochondria the mitochondria needs oh see these are all the the needs oh see these are all the the needs oh see these are all the the implications of the uberman

1:46implications of the uberman implications of the uberman podcast that people just didn't get why podcast that people just didn't get why podcast that people just didn't get why because remember that podcast wasn't because remember that podcast wasn't because remember that podcast wasn't designed to give you all those little designed to give you all those little designed to give you all those little nuances that's what my blog does okay nuances that's what my blog does okay nuances that's what my blog does okay that's what other podcasts do it was that's what other podcasts do it was that's what other podcasts do it was that that podcast was designed by Rick that that podcast was designed by Rick that that podcast was designed by Rick to be a conversation between three to be a conversation between three to be a conversation between three mammals to mammals to mammals to discuss how Evolution and why discuss how Evolution and why discuss how Evolution and why centralized and decentralized medicine centralized and decentralized medicine centralized and decentralized medicine has a radically different perspective has a radically different perspective has a radically different perspective that's kind of what you and I just did that's kind of what you and I just did that's kind of what you and I just did in this podcast over the last hour and in this podcast over the last hour and in this podcast over the last hour and 45 minutes is I focused more on light 45 minutes is I focused more on light 45 minutes is I focused more on light darkness and time for you to get you to darkness and time for you to get you to darkness and time for you to get you to really really really understand why Newton and Einstein are understand why Newton and Einstein are understand why Newton and Einstein are different now you're beginning to see different now you're beginning to see different now you're beginning to see how the melanin story fits into this how the melanin story fits into this how the melanin story fits into this because melanin actually makes the because melanin actually makes the because melanin actually makes the clocks in you even more accurate it's clocks in you even more accurate it's clocks in you even more accurate it's creating the raw materials from the

1:47creating the raw materials from the creating the raw materials from the things inside of cells that you need to things inside of cells that you need to things inside of cells that you need to run your mitochondria and to run your mitochondria and to run your mitochondria and to run um the programs in you you need run um the programs in you you need run um the programs in you you need electrons you need protons and you need electrons you need protons and you need electrons you need protons and you need oxygen that is the raw materials that oxygen that is the raw materials that oxygen that is the raw materials that run the program in your run the program in your run the program in your [Music] [Music] Mond and mammals that have gotten six 65 Mond and mammals that have gotten six 65 Mond and mammals that have gotten six 65 million years away from the KT event are million years away from the KT event are million years away from the KT event are the most dependent on electrons protons the most dependent on electrons protons the most dependent on electrons protons and oxygen the original and oxygen the original and oxygen the original mammals they have more margin of safety mammals they have more margin of safety mammals they have more margin of safety because they didn't have big brains now because they didn't have big brains now because they didn't have big brains now mammals have huge big brains and soon as mammals have huge big brains and soon as mammals have huge big brains and soon as you take any of their melanin away from you take any of their melanin away from you take any of their melanin away from them guess what happens they get sick them guess what happens they get sick them guess what happens they get sick yeah they got more to lose you got it yeah they got more to lose you got it yeah they got more to lose you got it it's a very similar story to what I told it's a very similar story to what I told it's a very similar story to what I told you about high latitude living isn't it you about high latitude living isn't it you about high latitude living isn't it so when you're a mammal that has a so when you're a mammal that has a so when you're a mammal that has a Ferrari engine you can see why that Ferrari engine you can see why that Ferrari engine you can see why that maybe living in a high latitude is maybe living in a high latitude is maybe living in a high latitude is almost the same almost the same almost the same decision that happened at the KT event

1:48decision that happened at the KT event decision that happened at the KT event maybe uncle jack is trying to get you to maybe uncle jack is trying to get you to maybe uncle jack is trying to get you to understand truly what I said to uberman understand truly what I said to uberman understand truly what I said to uberman and truly what I said to Owen and marry and truly what I said to Owen and marry and truly what I said to Owen and marry the two concepts together yeah the I think the sticking together yeah the I think the sticking point that me and my friend were on was point that me and my friend were on was point that me and my friend were on was like how like where are they making the like how like where are they making the like how like where are they making the light from cuz we're kind of like are light from cuz we're kind of like are light from cuz we're kind of like are they just cuz metabolism but what's like they just cuz metabolism but what's like they just cuz metabolism but what's like the input into the system like input the input into the system like input the input into the system like input into system electrons protons and light into system electrons protons and light into system electrons protons and light just remember that what let's I think just remember that what let's I think just remember that what let's I think the problem that most people have in the problem that most people have in the problem that most people have in biology is they don't understand physics biology is they don't understand physics biology is they don't understand physics enough let me ask you this simple enough let me ask you this simple enough let me ask you this simple question how does an LED light bulb make question how does an LED light bulb make question how does an LED light bulb make light you just put electricity into it light you just put electricity into it light you just put electricity into it right and then then the semiconductor right and then then the semiconductor right and then then the semiconductor creates light it's called the light creates light it's called the light creates light it's called the light emitting diode yeah that's exactly what emitting diode yeah that's exactly what emitting diode yeah that's exactly what chlorophyll that's exactly what chlorophyll that's exactly what chlorophyll that's exactly what mitochondria that's exactly what melanin mitochondria that's exactly what melanin

1:49mitochondria that's exactly what melanin does it also is a semiconductor so how does it also is a semiconductor so how does it also is a semiconductor so how do you know that Uncle Jack is right do you know that Uncle Jack is right do you know that Uncle Jack is right about that well that's when you have to about that well that's when you have to about that well that's when you have to go back and fact check me and go read go back and fact check me and go read go back and fact check me and go read about Robert o Becker's work you know about Robert o Becker's work you know about Robert o Becker's work you know you read the electric body and you find you read the electric body and you find you read the electric body and you find out that collagen he found to be a p out that collagen he found to be a p out that collagen he found to be a p type semiconductor that emits red brown type semiconductor that emits red brown type semiconductor that emits red brown light when you put DC electric current light when you put DC electric current light when you put DC electric current in it well just remember something in it well just remember something in it well just remember something collagen is the number one protein in collagen is the number one protein in collagen is the number one protein in your body so what does that mean that your body so what does that mean that your body so what does that mean that means you are capable of making an means you are capable of making an means you are capable of making an incredible light show inside of you but incredible light show inside of you but incredible light show inside of you but what's the difference between say human what's the difference between say human what's the difference between say human brain 1.0 which I talked to uberman brain 1.0 which I talked to uberman brain 1.0 which I talked to uberman about which is the seil Pod brain that about which is the seil Pod brain that about which is the seil Pod brain that came to fruition about 500 million years came to fruition about 500 million years came to fruition about 500 million years ago and our brain when I open up the ago and our brain when I open up the ago and our brain when I open up the skull on someone later today when I'm on skull on someone later today when I'm on skull on someone later today when I'm on trauma call Will I see the light show trauma call Will I see the light show trauma call Will I see the light show that the saop Pod shows in Uber's lab that the saop Pod shows in Uber's lab that the saop Pod shows in Uber's lab the answer is no why because over 500 the answer is no why because over 500 the answer is no why because over 500 million years the melanin that was on million years the melanin that was on million years the melanin that was on our exteriors are now on our interior

1:50our exteriors are now on our interior our exteriors are now on our interior that light is all conserved and where is that light is all conserved and where is that light is all conserved and where is that light given off to just as Becker that light given off to just as Becker that light given off to just as Becker told you into water in the system to told you into water in the system to told you into water in the system to other semiconductors into the system other semiconductors into the system other semiconductors into the system it's it's contained within the it's it's contained within the it's it's contained within the system seod pods it's not why because system seod pods it's not why because system seod pods it's not why because they come from a time that was much they come from a time that was much they come from a time that was much simpler on Earth yet here's the simpler on Earth yet here's the simpler on Earth yet here's the interesting interesting interesting part seop pods and man still exist on part seop pods and man still exist on part seop pods and man still exist on this planet today at the same time what this planet today at the same time what this planet today at the same time what does that tell you that the same Octave does that tell you that the same Octave does that tell you that the same Octave of the electromagnetic spectrum is still of the electromagnetic spectrum is still of the electromagnetic spectrum is still present but the environments that present but the environments that present but the environments that mammals and sop pods exist in is mammals and sop pods exist in is mammals and sop pods exist in is radically different right they're in the radically different right they're in the radically different right they're in the ocean and we're not but yet doesn't our ocean and we're not but yet doesn't our ocean and we're not but yet doesn't our brain swim in an ocean of brain swim in an ocean of brain swim in an ocean of CSF that's the reason I told you that CSF that's the reason I told you that CSF that's the reason I told you that the SE PO is human brain 1.0 and human the SE PO is human brain 1.0 and human the SE PO is human brain 1.0 and human brain right now is like brain right now is like brain right now is like 1,1 1,1 1,1 15,000 uh version which had 500 million

1:5115,000 uh version which had 500 million 15,000 uh version which had 500 million years to contain the light further so years to contain the light further so years to contain the light further so that it can be used for more complex that it can be used for more complex that it can be used for more complex findings and what what is the key findings and what what is the key findings and what what is the key semiconductor that has been used in the semiconductor that has been used in the semiconductor that has been used in the Maman clay melanin it's not hemoglobin Maman clay melanin it's not hemoglobin Maman clay melanin it's not hemoglobin it's not chlorophyll it was melanin it's not chlorophyll it was melanin it's not chlorophyll it was melanin and what did the suop pods do with that and what did the suop pods do with that and what did the suop pods do with that melanin they used to expel it to get melanin they used to expel it to get melanin they used to expel it to get away from their prey right 70% of ink is away from their prey right 70% of ink is away from their prey right 70% of ink is melanin turns out in us we keep all our melanin turns out in us we keep all our melanin turns out in us we keep all our melanin and our substanti in our melanin and our substanti in our melanin and our substanti in our neurons everywhere inside of us anything neurons everywhere inside of us anything neurons everywhere inside of us anything that's made out of that's made out of that's made out of neuroectoderm we have palc we have Alpha neuroectoderm we have palc we have Alpha neuroectoderm we have palc we have Alpha msh that makes us very very msh that makes us very very msh that makes us very very unique that perspective is really really unique that perspective is really really unique that perspective is really really important for you and your friends important for you and your friends important for you and your friends together yeah cuz it turns out when together yeah cuz it turns out when together yeah cuz it turns out when you're two guys from the UK and you're you're two guys from the UK and you're you're two guys from the UK and you're sitting in the bar in the middle of the sitting in the bar in the middle of the sitting in the bar in the middle of the night you're both looking at each other night you're both looking at each other night you're both looking at each other with your blond blonde hair white skin

1:52with your blond blonde hair white skin with your blond blonde hair white skin and blue eyes realize that most of your and blue eyes realize that most of your and blue eyes realize that most of your melanin is on the inside and just by the melanin is on the inside and just by the melanin is on the inside and just by the virtue of you sitting in that bar you're virtue of you sitting in that bar you're virtue of you sitting in that bar you're this whole program this whole program this whole program up yeah because you're decreasing the up yeah because you're decreasing the up yeah because you're decreasing the amount of light that your semiconductors amount of light that your semiconductors amount of light that your semiconductors make inside of make inside of make inside of you I I I understand that like that met you I I I understand that like that met you I I I understand that like that met with like the diode but I'm trying to with like the diode but I'm trying to with like the diode but I'm trying to not a metaphor it's actually accurate not a metaphor it's actually accurate not a metaphor it's actually accurate this is I tell this is I tell this is I tell absolutely the same thing you create absolutely the same thing you create absolutely the same thing you create light from a semiconductor anytime you light from a semiconductor anytime you light from a semiconductor anytime you put any energy source in just so we're put any energy source in just so we're put any energy source in just so we're clear on this if you put electricity in clear on this if you put electricity in clear on this if you put electricity in like a DC electric current or AC current like a DC electric current or AC current like a DC electric current or AC current you will make light a light frequency you will make light a light frequency you will make light a light frequency will change what determines it is what will change what determines it is what will change what determines it is what type of semiconductor it is and how it's type of semiconductor it is and how it's type of semiconductor it is and how it's baned Gap okay that's what changes the baned Gap okay that's what changes the baned Gap okay that's what changes the frequency frequency frequency so the same thing is true about um other so the same thing is true about um other so the same thing is true about um other semiconductors for example the guy who

1:53semiconductors for example the guy who semiconductors for example the guy who figured this out originally he was an figured this out originally he was an figured this out originally he was an Indian but he was in the UK his name is Indian but he was in the UK his name is Indian but he was in the UK his name is trer Bose you can look up his work from trer Bose you can look up his work from trer Bose you can look up his work from 1890 to 1801 how did he figure out he 1890 to 1801 how did he figure out he 1890 to 1801 how did he figure out he actually had a fan on a light that was actually had a fan on a light that was actually had a fan on a light that was sitting on a broken piece of silicon and sitting on a broken piece of silicon and sitting on a broken piece of silicon and the light came through the fan and he the light came through the fan and he the light came through the fan and he noticed that there was a spark or a noticed that there was a spark or a noticed that there was a spark or a change in an oscilloscope every time change in an oscilloscope every time change in an oscilloscope every time that happened so he's the first person that happened so he's the first person that happened so he's the first person that discovered piso electricity that that discovered piso electricity that that discovered piso electricity that means just from compressing a means just from compressing a means just from compressing a semiconductor you create semiconductor you create semiconductor you create light think about that for a minute then light think about that for a minute then light think about that for a minute then there's fero electric current then there's fero electric current then there's fero electric current then there's pyro electric current what does there's pyro electric current what does there's pyro electric current what does that mean pyro means you change the that mean pyro means you change the that mean pyro means you change the temperature of the semiconductor and you temperature of the semiconductor and you temperature of the semiconductor and you change the light emission o that should change the light emission o that should change the light emission o that should get you kind of interested based on our get you kind of interested based on our get you kind of interested based on our discussion for the last two discussion for the last two discussion for the last two hours that just changing the temperature hours that just changing the temperature hours that just changing the temperature changes the light that gets emitted from

1:54changes the light that gets emitted from changes the light that gets emitted from the the sunny I like sunny I like sunny I like that starting to see how this works yeah that starting to see how this works yeah that starting to see how this works yeah it's all like it's so interesting how it's all like it's so interesting how it's all like it's so interesting how when you lay out there's kind of when you lay out there's kind of when you lay out there's kind of connections between everything which you connections between everything which you connections between everything which you might not first to see right and that might not first to see right and that might not first to see right and that guess what that is what makes this the guess what that is what makes this the guess what that is what makes this the greatest story ever told that's the greatest story ever told that's the greatest story ever told that's the reason why so many people have been reason why so many people have been reason why so many people have been interested in the uberman Ruben podcast interested in the uberman Ruben podcast interested in the uberman Ruben podcast because guess what I opened Pandora's because guess what I opened Pandora's because guess what I opened Pandora's Box you're now beginning to understand Box you're now beginning to understand Box you're now beginning to understand how a decentralized clinician really how a decentralized clinician really how a decentralized clinician really sees the world of circadian biology and sees the world of circadian biology and sees the world of circadian biology and then you begin to see the implications then you begin to see the implications then you begin to see the implications of what it means when you and your mates of what it means when you and your mates of what it means when you and your mates are sitting in the bar or what it means are sitting in the bar or what it means are sitting in the bar or what it means for finished people who are doing all for finished people who are doing all for finished people who are doing all the wrong things and why they got got the wrong things and why they got got the wrong things and why they got got type 1 diabetes or why people are who type 1 diabetes or why people are who type 1 diabetes or why people are who are now working for Facebook at the 20th are now working for Facebook at the 20th are now working for Facebook at the 20th latitude in Bangalore are getting type 2 latitude in Bangalore are getting type 2 latitude in Bangalore are getting type 2 diabetes for the first time in 5,000

1:55diabetes for the first time in 5,000 diabetes for the first time in 5,000 years in other words you begin to put years in other words you begin to put years in other words you begin to put pieces together where you can explain it pieces together where you can explain it pieces together where you can explain it where your idiot consultant doctor in where your idiot consultant doctor in where your idiot consultant doctor in the NHS is impotent to fix this to even the NHS is impotent to fix this to even the NHS is impotent to fix this to even understand it but Owen sheby now who's understand it but Owen sheby now who's understand it but Owen sheby now who's now gone from the light to the dark and now gone from the light to the dark and now gone from the light to the dark and two hours with me now is beginning to two hours with me now is beginning to two hours with me now is beginning to understand some of the magic that was in understand some of the magic that was in understand some of the magic that was in that uberman Ruben podcast why because that uberman Ruben podcast why because that uberman Ruben podcast why because you've asked some good questions I've you've asked some good questions I've you've asked some good questions I've given you some provocative answers I've given you some provocative answers I've given you some provocative answers I've taken you down some dark Pathways that taken you down some dark Pathways that taken you down some dark Pathways that you didn't expect that we were going to you didn't expect that we were going to you didn't expect that we were going to go when we started talking about go when we started talking about go when we started talking about Newtonian physics and einsteinian Newtonian physics and einsteinian Newtonian physics and einsteinian physics and time relativity and how it physics and time relativity and how it physics and time relativity and how it relates to light and light emission and relates to light and light emission and relates to light and light emission and we're ending it right now with light we're ending it right now with light we're ending it right now with light emissions from the semiconductors that emissions from the semiconductors that emissions from the semiconductors that are created inside of are created inside of are created inside of us yeah good stuff it's been it's been us yeah good stuff it's been it's been us yeah good stuff it's been it's been great yeah I just I just I'm I'm sorry

1:56great yeah I just I just I'm I'm sorry great yeah I just I just I'm I'm sorry if I'm not getting this but like the if I'm not getting this but like the if I'm not getting this but like the diode makes sense but I'm trying to diode makes sense but I'm trying to diode makes sense but I'm trying to understand the small animals in they understand the small animals in they understand the small animals in they were like underground so they didn't were like underground so they didn't were like underground so they didn't have light coming in from the Sun and have light coming in from the Sun and have light coming in from the Sun and photosynthesis was blocked so like they photosynthesis was blocked so like they photosynthesis was blocked so like they had some light I mean photosynthesis was had some light I mean photosynthesis was had some light I mean photosynthesis was blocked but was the entire Spectrum you blocked but was the entire Spectrum you blocked but was the entire Spectrum you know knocked out okay yeah they still know knocked out okay yeah they still know knocked out okay yeah they still had stuff just think about it like for had stuff just think about it like for had stuff just think about it like for example On A Day in the UK when it's example On A Day in the UK when it's example On A Day in the UK when it's cloudy out are you getting UV are you cloudy out are you getting UV are you cloudy out are you getting UV are you getting all the red no but you're still getting all the red no but you're still getting all the red no but you're still getting frequency through from that getting frequency through from that getting frequency through from that shitty light you're still able to make shitty light you're still able to make shitty light you're still able to make blood glucose right okay that's that's blood glucose right okay that's that's blood glucose right okay that's that's the piece yeah okay that makes sense got the piece yeah okay that makes sense got the piece yeah okay that makes sense got it m yeah all right Owen it's time for it m yeah all right Owen it's time for it m yeah all right Owen it's time for me to go yeah I think this is a good me to go yeah I think this is a good me to go yeah I think this is a good place to end uh if people want to find place to end uh if people want to find place to end uh if people want to find more of your work it's Jack cruz.com and more of your work it's Jack cruz.com and more of your work it's Jack cruz.com and Dr Jack Cruz on Twitter and Instagram is Dr Jack Cruz on Twitter and Instagram is Dr Jack Cruz on Twitter and Instagram is there anything else to add there you put there anything else to add there you put there anything else to add there you put act Dr Jack Cruz pretty much everywhere act Dr Jack Cruz pretty much everywhere act Dr Jack Cruz pretty much everywhere you can find it if you put my name and

1:57you can find it if you put my name and you can find it if you put my name and your disease in a Google box you'll find your disease in a Google box you'll find your disease in a Google box you'll find it if you want more information read my it if you want more information read my it if you want more information read my book on Amazon or sign up for patreon book on Amazon or sign up for patreon book on Amazon or sign up for patreon where I'll teach you how to be a Quantum where I'll teach you how to be a Quantum where I'll teach you how to be a Quantum biologist and be decentralized patient biologist and be decentralized patient biologist and be decentralized patient so you know more than your doctor I'll so you know more than your doctor I'll so you know more than your doctor I'll put all the links to that in the show put all the links to that in the show put all the links to that in the show notes thanks so much Jack this has been notes thanks so much Jack this has been notes thanks so much Jack this has been really insightful and I hope audiences really insightful and I hope audiences really insightful and I hope audiences they've enjoyed it as well thank you all they've enjoyed it as well thank you all they've enjoyed it as well thank you all right take care Owen have a good one right take care Owen have a good one right take care Owen have a good one bye-bye bye-bye bye-bye [Music] [Music] [Applause] [Music] bye

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